Speaker 1: Welcome. It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson
Speaker 1: with you, and we have got a lot to talk
Speaker 1: about today, Senator, and I want to give a roadmap
Speaker 1: for people because there's so much news happening. First off,
Speaker 1: a big victory, and we're gonna get to this. First,
Speaker 1: dealing with a nomination someone from the Biden administration that's
Speaker 1: actually been pulled. You're going to give that update. Plus
Speaker 1: what's going on in Mexico with the four Americans that
Speaker 1: we're taking hostage. Two of them have died. We also
Speaker 1: have another issue with Fauci emails. And finally January the six, Senator,
Speaker 1: let's start with this big information, big news of victory
Speaker 1: of the fact that President Biden's nomination of Gigi Son
Speaker 1: to serve as a commissioner of the US Federal Communications
Speaker 1: Commissioners the FCC has been pulled. How did we get there?
Speaker 1: I know that something you talked about on this show
Speaker 1: early on, and we're leading the way saying she was
Speaker 1: not qualified. Well, this is a huge victory. So Joe
Speaker 1: Biden had nominated Gigi Son be a commissioner of the FCC,
Speaker 1: the Federal Communications Commission and many believe that Biden intended
Speaker 1: to name her the chairman of the Commission if she
Speaker 1: had been confirmed. Ggsone has been a left wing activist
Speaker 1: her entire life. She is a hardcore activist. She had
Speaker 1: repeatedly denounced Fox News as an enemy to democracy, as
Speaker 1: a threat to democracy. She had demonstrated a willingness to
Speaker 1: use the powers of the SEC to deny licenses and
Speaker 1: to otherwise used government power to silence conservative voices. And
Speaker 1: she had a remarkable pattern of just being a partisan activist. So,
Speaker 1: for example, there was a group called Fighting for a
Speaker 1: Future that gigsone had supported for years, and every year
Speaker 1: she sent out tweets fundraising for Fighting for a Future.
Speaker 1: Now GGE did this even though the group Fighting for
Speaker 1: Our Future had a long standing practice of attacking multiple
Speaker 1: Senators and multiple Senators on the Commerce Committee. If you're
Speaker 1: nominated on the SEC, it's the Commerce Committee that has
Speaker 1: to confirm you. So Fighting for a Future had put
Speaker 1: out billboards attacking Senator Marsha Blackburn is on the Commerce
Speaker 1: Committee with me. They'd put out billboards attacking Senator Dan
Speaker 1: Sullivan is on the Commerce Commitment Committee with me. They
Speaker 1: had attacked Roger Wicker, who's the former chairman, forming ranking
Speaker 1: member of the Commerce Committee. But interestingly enough, Ben, they
Speaker 1: hadn't just attacked Republicans, They'd attacked a bunch of Democrats.
Speaker 1: So they'd put up billboards saying John Tester, the Democrats
Speaker 1: Senator from Montana, is corrupt. They'd put up billboards saying
Speaker 1: Gary Peters, the Democrats Senator from Michigan, is corrupt. They'd
Speaker 1: put up billboards saying Kirsten Cinema, the Democrats Senator from Arizona,
Speaker 1: is corrupt. And I'm Amazingly enough, this group also sent
Speaker 1: a letter to Chuck Schumer in December of last year,
Speaker 1: urging Schumer to fire Maria kent Well, the Democrat is
Speaker 1: the chairman of the committee, because the committee had yet
Speaker 1: confirmed gigisone, And after all of these solicitations, every year
Speaker 1: gisone would ask for people to contribute and support this,
Speaker 1: and so gisone had three different confirmation hearings, the most
Speaker 1: recent one a couple of weeks ago. I'm the ranking
Speaker 1: member of the Commerce Committee. I led the fight against him.
Speaker 1: I walked her through each of these. I said, look,
Speaker 1: do you believe John Tester is corrupt? She says no,
Speaker 1: Do you believe Gary Peters is corrupt, she says no.
Speaker 1: Do you believe Kirsten Cinema's corrupt? She says no. Did
Speaker 1: you know this group was putting up these billboards and
Speaker 1: attacking these senators? And she said, well, I knew about
Speaker 1: the billboard attacking Cinema And I said no. Did you
Speaker 1: raise money for her for them after that? And she said, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: completely unapologetically. I laughed. I said, look, I don't know
Speaker 1: in ten years in the Senate that I've ever seen
Speaker 1: a nominee who supports a group that attacks half the
Speaker 1: senators on the committee that are supposed to confirm her.
Speaker 1: It was remarkable. Now, I'll tell you a funny epilogue
Speaker 1: to this. I said it the hearing. I said, listen,
Speaker 1: I'm kind of offended, like this group is attacked half
Speaker 1: the senators here, but they haven't attacked me. Like, what
Speaker 1: do I have to do to get this left wing
Speaker 1: group mad at me? I would have thought I have
Speaker 1: done sufficient to attract their ire, and I'm feeling kind
Speaker 1: of neglected here. Now. This group they heard what I said,
Speaker 1: and I guess it prompted them to action. So they
Speaker 1: launched online a crowdfunding effort to raise money to put
Speaker 1: up a billboard attacking me. It's so it's the billboard
Speaker 1: as a picture of me, and it has a website,
Speaker 1: Ted Cruz Hates free Speech dot com. I'm sorry, I
Speaker 1: was not expecting that to be the name of the website,
Speaker 1: but go ahead. So set aside that if there's I
Speaker 1: don't know that there's anything I love more than free speech. Yeah,
Speaker 1: other than God, my family in America. But free speech
Speaker 1: is intimately intertwined with that. But here's the part that's beautiful. Bad.
Speaker 1: This left wing group, they're really partisan, but they're not
Speaker 1: very good. So they didn't actually buy the website. So
Speaker 1: the billboard that they were crowdfunding to raise the website
Speaker 1: was still available. So I bought it, and so I
Speaker 1: now owned the website Ted Cruz Hates Freespeech dot com.
Speaker 1: And I promptly turned it into a campaign fundraising website,
Speaker 1: and I tweeted out said, hey, I really appreciate you
Speaker 1: guys putting this billboard up and urging people to go
Speaker 1: to this website to contribute to my senate real life.
Speaker 1: That's just an amazing thing. Any the best investment you've
Speaker 1: ever made in any website, every you may have missed
Speaker 1: the investment window on some of the big stuff, but
Speaker 1: at least you got that website. It was really so
Speaker 1: her record is extreme. It was she is a partisan advocate,
Speaker 1: and Biden was giving in to the radical left by
Speaker 1: trying to name her to the FCC because I believe
Speaker 1: he wanted to use government power to silence conservative voters,
Speaker 1: to attack Fox News, to attack conservative outlets, and to
Speaker 1: advance an extreme partisan agenda. In the Commerce Committee, we
Speaker 1: managed to hold all the Republicans together and multiple Democrats
Speaker 1: expressed skepticism. Well, today mid day, Joe Mansion put out
Speaker 1: a statement saying he was a no. He was voting no,
Speaker 1: and about an hour later we got a formal announcement
Speaker 1: that Gigsone was withdrawing her nomination. The White House was
Speaker 1: withdrawing her nomination. Now I'll tell you I was actually
Speaker 1: sitting at lunch with my colleagues. All the Republican senators
Speaker 1: have lunch together every Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday. So I
Speaker 1: was sitting at lunch at one fifty pm. The lunch
Speaker 1: typically runs from twelve thirty to two pm. At like
Speaker 1: one fifty pm, my staff director sends me a text
Speaker 1: and says, hey, We're hearing lots of rumors in town
Speaker 1: that Gigison is going to withdraw. And I'm like, okay, great,
Speaker 1: how we're liable? Are these rumors? Are they real? And
Speaker 1: he's like, well, it's kind of the lobby crew in town,
Speaker 1: but most of their rumors have been pretty accurate on this,
Speaker 1: and so I'm like, well, try to nail this down.
Speaker 1: I want to know for sure. And then at about
Speaker 1: one fifty seven, so about three minutes before the lunch
Speaker 1: is over, my guys send me a text of the
Speaker 1: media stories that had just broken saying the White House
Speaker 1: had withdrawn her nomination. So I stood up at lunch.
Speaker 1: It was the very end of lunch and I said, hey,
Speaker 1: just wanted everyone to let you know the news just
Speaker 1: broke about two minutes ago the White House is withdrawn
Speaker 1: gig sons nomination. I'll tell you, the entire Republican conference
Speaker 1: broke out an applause, and that's awesome, and I really
Speaker 1: I gave a testament to all of the Republicans on
Speaker 1: the Commerce Committee, who state united, who state focused? You know,
Speaker 1: in my new role as ranking member, we tried very
Speaker 1: hard to work with each of their teams to help
Speaker 1: each of the members focus on a different aspect of
Speaker 1: her record, but it was a comprehensive effort to make
Speaker 1: clear she is not forced someone on an independent agency
Speaker 1: like the FCC. You want someone fair, you want someone impartial,
Speaker 1: you want someone who will respect free speech. This was
Speaker 1: a nominee who was not and as of today, this
Speaker 1: nomination has been defeated. It's a success story coming out
Speaker 1: of Washington that we wanted to make sure people knew
Speaker 1: about because this is what happens when people expose these
Speaker 1: individuals and let everybody know. And this podcast played a
Speaker 1: pivotal role in exposing who this nominee was and why
Speaker 1: they were not qualified. And this is a victory we
Speaker 1: should all enjoy. On the important thing. Ben also to underscore, look,
Speaker 1: we beat her in a Democrats Senate, which means if
Speaker 1: it were just a party line vote, if it were
Speaker 1: just all the d's vote yes, all the RS vote no,
Speaker 1: she would have been confirmed. So to beat her, we
Speaker 1: held all the rs together, but we also picked off
Speaker 1: several d's and actually, from what I'm hearing, there may
Speaker 1: have been as many as four or five six Democrats
Speaker 1: who were going to vote no, and so that was
Speaker 1: really a big victory because I gotta tell you, Democrats
Speaker 1: senators have been willing to vote for some of the
Speaker 1: most extreme nominees I've ever seen, so to actually flip
Speaker 1: them was a great victory for free speech today. Yeah,
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. It It was awesome. I want to
Speaker 1: get to this other issue, and there was a shocking
Speaker 1: issue of four Americans that were taken hostage in Mexico.
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Speaker 1: a story that was really a shocking story. It also
Speaker 1: came along with video, and that video showed four Americans
Speaker 1: who had traveled into Mexico, right across the border with Texas,
Speaker 1: going into Mexico. They were then ambushed. Two of them died.
Speaker 1: They were taken and thrown into the back of a
Speaker 1: white pickup truck. We saw this. The most shocking part
Speaker 1: for me was not that the cartels did this, It
Speaker 1: was the fact that the President United States of America
Speaker 1: had nothing to say about it when these at that
Speaker 1: point we didn't know if anyone had actually been killed
Speaker 1: yet of these Americans, and the White House was asked
Speaker 1: about what is the President doing and saying? And the
Speaker 1: White House Press secretary all she had to offer the
Speaker 1: American people and these hostages was this thank you. I
Speaker 1: went on Mexico. I can tell you the President is
Speaker 1: aware and has been informed. That's it. You're an American,
Speaker 1: you're held hostage in Mexico. You're asked about it, and
Speaker 1: the White House says he has been informed. Senator, he
Speaker 1: is aware. That is all he had to say about this.
Speaker 1: And now we found out two of the four are dead.
Speaker 1: Your reaction, look, Ben, I really wish we had a
Speaker 1: commander in chief. That reaction is pitiful. Anyone who kills
Speaker 1: an American citizen should face serious consequences, should be held
Speaker 1: to account. And the President was a wall. You had
Speaker 1: four Americans. The story as we know it right now.
Speaker 1: More facts may come out, but as we know it
Speaker 1: right now, four Americans from South Carolina who traveled down
Speaker 1: to Mexico so that one of them, a woman, could
Speaker 1: get a medical procedure at Tummy Tuck. They drove down
Speaker 1: there in a rental car. And what's been being reported
Speaker 1: right now is the Gulf Cartel believed that they were
Speaker 1: Haitian smugglers, either drug smugglers or human smugglers, we don't
Speaker 1: know the exact details, and open fire on them and
Speaker 1: two of them were killed, the third was injured, shot
Speaker 1: in the leg, and the two that lived were taken
Speaker 1: hostage for several days, and the President publicly didn't say
Speaker 1: a damn word. President ought to stand up right now,
Speaker 1: and he should have still stood up when they were
Speaker 1: taken before we knew their situation, and said release these Americans.
Speaker 1: America will not stand by while you kidnap Americans, while
Speaker 1: you shoot Americans, while you murder Americans. And particularly this
Speaker 1: happened just south of the US Mexico border, just south
Speaker 1: of our southern border. Let me say secondly, this crisis
Speaker 1: was caused by Joe Biden. Joe Biden's open border policies
Speaker 1: have caused the worst crisis on our southern border in
Speaker 1: our nation's history. In two and a half years, we've
Speaker 1: seen over five and a half million illegal aliens crossing
Speaker 1: the border. We saw last year more than one hundred
Speaker 1: thousand drug overdoses in the United States, the highest level
Speaker 1: in history. More than half of those are Chinese fentinolf
Speaker 1: flooding across the border. But I'll tell you one of
Speaker 1: the real consequences. So Biden came in, and Biden and
Speaker 1: harrissed together. In the first week, they did three things.
Speaker 1: They made three political decisions that caused this crisis. Number One,
Speaker 1: they immediately halted construction of the border wall. Number two,
Speaker 1: they reinstated the failed policy of catch and release, and
Speaker 1: number three, they pulled out of the incredibly successful Remain
Speaker 1: in Mexico policy. That combination of policy and political decisions
Speaker 1: caused this border crisis. But let me tell you the
Speaker 1: real effects. According to the New York Times, in the
Speaker 1: year twenty eighteen, the drug cartels in Mexico made roughly
Speaker 1: five hundred million dollars. Now, let's and five hundred million
Speaker 1: dollars a lot of money. They were doing quite well
Speaker 1: last year. You know how much they made? How much?
Speaker 1: Thirteen billion dollars and that six hundred percent more. Yes,
Speaker 1: it is without exaggeration, the single best thing that has
Speaker 1: ever happened to Mexican drug cartels and drug lords is
Speaker 1: Joe Biden becoming president. Their profits went up two thousand,
Speaker 1: six hundred percent thirteen billion dollars. By the way of
Speaker 1: that money, roughly half the money they make is from
Speaker 1: human trafficking, from bringing human beings across the border in
Speaker 1: horrible conditions of squalor and abuse, and roughly half of
Speaker 1: it is from drug trafficking. So why do these cartels
Speaker 1: feel that they have the power to kidnap and murder
Speaker 1: American citizens? Well, when you're vicious terrorists, when you're violent criminals.
Speaker 1: When you're cruel and abusive, and you got thirteen billion dollars. Sadly,
Speaker 1: the impact in a country is terrible, and Joe Biden
Speaker 1: caused this. It is tragic and it's unacceptable. The Attorney General,
Speaker 1: Bill bar former Attorney General Bill bar was asked about this,
Speaker 1: and he obviously had to deal a lot with Mexico
Speaker 1: when he was in charge under the Trump administration. He
Speaker 1: summed it up by putting it this way. The Mexican
Speaker 1: government is being held hostage by tens of thousands of
Speaker 1: paramilitary members of terrorist organizations that effectively control Mexico. It's
Speaker 1: pretty close at this stage to a failed narco state.
Speaker 1: They can use violence and oceans of cash to corrupt
Speaker 1: the government. The government has no will and it doesn't
Speaker 1: have the ability to deal with the cartels, and they
Speaker 1: are sitting next door producing mountains of poisonous drugs and
Speaker 1: killing over one hundred thousand Americans a year, which was
Speaker 1: at the height of World War Two. That was our
Speaker 1: killed in action rate. So we are sustaining the same
Speaker 1: damage as we would in a major war from these
Speaker 1: groups operating right beyond our reach. Senator, when you put
Speaker 1: in perspective the way that he did, talking about the
Speaker 1: number of people that have died, you know, the killing
Speaker 1: of over one hundred thousand Americans a year, which which
Speaker 1: was what we were dealing with the height of World
Speaker 1: War Two, that was our killed in action rate. And
Speaker 1: we're sustaining those losses right now because of an open border,
Speaker 1: because of this president, and he doesn't seem to have
Speaker 1: any connection to reality or want to stop the death
Speaker 1: of all these Americans. And even when Americans are being
Speaker 1: taken hostage, did you ever think you would see a
Speaker 1: day where a president wouldn't immediately come out to the
Speaker 1: White House Press briefing and say, I want to make
Speaker 1: it clear of the cartels whoever took these ammerins, you
Speaker 1: better return them or we will unleash holy hell on you.
Speaker 1: And if the Mexican government is the failure that was
Speaker 1: just described here by Bill bar that's basically a narco state.
Speaker 1: And you know that because he was just down there.
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't you said this, Because you hadn't no honest
Speaker 1: ability to believe that the Mexican government was going to
Speaker 1: be able to find these people before two or three
Speaker 1: or four die well. Because Joe Biden is an unbelievably
Speaker 1: weak president. Listen Bill Barr, as you know, he's been
Speaker 1: a friend for a long time. For twenty years, we've
Speaker 1: had Bill Barr as a guest on this podcast when
Speaker 1: he was Attorney General under Donald Trump. And Barr has
Speaker 1: spent a lifetime fighting for law and order, fighting against
Speaker 1: drug dealers, fighting against human traffickers, fighting to keep innocent
Speaker 1: people safe. And the condition in Mexico is tragic. These
Speaker 1: drug cartels are more powerful than they have ever been
Speaker 1: in the history of Mexico or the history of the world.
Speaker 1: And Joe Biden is making them powerful. He is making
Speaker 1: them incredibly rich by allowing their businesses to flourish and prosper.
Speaker 1: And listen, Bill Barr is right that the Mexican government
Speaker 1: sadly has at best turned a blind eye to the
Speaker 1: horrific predations of these drug cartels, and at worst has
Speaker 1: been complicit in them. You know, it was really striking
Speaker 1: when Biden went down to Mexico and did a press
Speaker 1: conference with Amlo, the extreme leftist president of Mexico. Amlo
Speaker 1: praised him effusively in Spanish. We played it on this podcast.
Speaker 1: He praised him as being the first president in modern
Speaker 1: times Republican or Democrat not to build a single meter
Speaker 1: of border wall. Now, Amlo was praising him for essentially
Speaker 1: abandoning his obligation to protect America and keep us safe.
Speaker 1: But that is also the praise of someone talking about
Speaker 1: a president the United States who Amlow believes is weak,
Speaker 1: who Amlow believes is not formidable. You know, last night
Speaker 1: I went on Jesse Waters and Jesse asked me about
Speaker 1: Lindsey Graham had said we ought to send in the military,
Speaker 1: we had to kill these drug cartels. And let me
Speaker 1: be clear, I Lindsay's a friend, but I don't agree
Speaker 1: with his recommendation there. I don't think we ought to
Speaker 1: invade Mexico. I don't think we ought to be in
Speaker 1: the business of invading foreign nations. But I do think
Speaker 1: the President ought to make unequivocally clear to the Mexican government,
Speaker 1: you will hunt down, you will send in the Mexican army.
Speaker 1: You will arrest these cartel members that murdered these American citizens.
Speaker 1: You will extradite them to the United States, and they
Speaker 1: will face the full force of the justice system in
Speaker 1: the United States of America. And you might say, well, Gosh,
Speaker 1: Amlow's too weak to do that. He's unwilling to do that.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. When Trump was president, Amlo was
Speaker 1: terrified at Trump. When Trump was president, Amlo read to
Speaker 1: the Remain in Mexico agreement. He actually stationed thousands of
Speaker 1: Mexican soldiers on Mexico's southern bordering. You know, you look
Speaker 1: at the map, Mexico's southern border along Guatemala is much
Speaker 1: much smaller than our southern border, which is two thousand
Speaker 1: miles between the United States and Mexico. If you want
Speaker 1: to stop illegal immigrations, one of the way, one of
Speaker 1: the ways you do it is you you seal the
Speaker 1: southern border of Mexico. Amlo did it because he was
Speaker 1: terrified of Trump. Because Biden is such a weak president.
Speaker 1: Everyone walks all over him. And sadly, these American citizens,
Speaker 1: they're from South Carolina. Two of them lost their lives
Speaker 1: because of the drug cartels empowered by Joe Biden, and
Speaker 1: two of them were kidnapped, while Joe Biden remained silent
Speaker 1: and did not use the power of the United States
Speaker 1: to defend those Americans. Yeah, it is a scary thing,
Speaker 1: and I think the part that was the most shocking
Speaker 1: for me was the fact that we only offered at
Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars to get information about the whereabouts, and
Speaker 1: I said, wow, I'm basically worth twelve thousand, five hundred dollars.
Speaker 1: But if you come across the border illegally, you'll get
Speaker 1: far more than that from the US government. And we're
Speaker 1: sending far more than that to people in Ukraine. That
Speaker 1: is again shows you just how low the American people
Speaker 1: are on the priority list of this White House. I
Speaker 1: want to be ben for what it's worth. I'd pony
Speaker 1: up at least thirteen thousand for information on you. Thank you,
Speaker 1: Thank you, at least thirteen I got your back. It's
Speaker 1: not your twelve five man, You're the entire United States
Speaker 1: government right now? Do I get to combine funds because
Speaker 1: that's like almost twenty five right there. Look, I don't
Speaker 1: have a multi trillion dollars GDP, so you should feel
Speaker 1: really good. I just committed thirteen grand I'll be in
Speaker 1: trouble at home for that. I'm gonna get this in writing,
Speaker 1: Beaz if we ever go missing, we know, we know
Speaker 1: Senator Cruise has got our back on that one. I
Speaker 1: want to get to something else, and that is these
Speaker 1: By the way, thirteen. No one. I may be like
Speaker 1: new number who I don't know that that former person
Speaker 1: that I used to work with you. I can. I
Speaker 1: can hear the press conference right now. At least I'd
Speaker 1: get a press conference out of it. That would be
Speaker 1: the good news. I got your back. Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. I want to get in these emails
Speaker 1: with doctor Fauci that apparently these new emails are showing
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Speaker 1: Ira Center. The more that comes out about what Fauci
Speaker 1: was up to, it is even to me little bit shocking.
Speaker 1: Now these new emails uncovered by the House Republicans probing
Speaker 1: the COVID nineteen pandemic are now revealing the deceptive nature
Speaker 1: of doctor Anthony Fauci. They show that he prompted or
Speaker 1: commissioned and had final approval on a scientific paper written
Speaker 1: specifically in February of twenty twenty to disprove the theory
Speaker 1: that the virus leaked from a Wuhan lab in China.
Speaker 1: Eight weeks later, Faucci also stood at the White House
Speaker 1: Press conference alongside Donald Trump incited that paper as evidence
Speaker 1: that the lab week theory was implausible, while pretending it
Speaker 1: had nothing to do with him and he did not
Speaker 1: know the authors. He was lying to the American people. Well, sadly,
Speaker 1: we've discovered that doctor Fauci is more than willing to
Speaker 1: lie to the American people, and he did so throughout
Speaker 1: this pandemic. He did so an enormous expense to his
Speaker 1: own integrity, to his own credibility, and an enormous expense
Speaker 1: to the credibility of the scientific and medical community in
Speaker 1: this country, particularly in the government. This particular story was
Speaker 1: broken by Miranda Divine in the New York Post, and
Speaker 1: I got to say, Miranda Divine has done an extraordinary
Speaker 1: job breaking these stories. She's focused aggressively on it. You know,
Speaker 1: when Fauci talked about this paper, he described it as
Speaker 1: a group of quote, highly qualified evolutionary virologist. They looked
Speaker 1: at the sequences in bats as they evolved, the mutations
Speaker 1: that it took to get to the point where it
Speaker 1: is now totally consistent with a jump of species from
Speaker 1: animal to human. So he continues, the paper will be available.
Speaker 1: I don't have the authors right now, but we can
Speaker 1: make it available to you. So he's laying it out
Speaker 1: as this scientific paper. It came out in Nature magazine
Speaker 1: on February seventeenth, twenty twenty, but it was written four
Speaker 1: days after Fauci had held a call with the four
Speaker 1: authors to discuss reports that COVID nineteen may have been
Speaker 1: leaked from Wuhun lab and quote may have been intentionally
Speaker 1: genetically manipulated, and the article. On February twelfth, Anderson, one
Speaker 1: of the authors of the article, submitted the paper to
Speaker 1: Nature Medicine with a cover email, there has been a
Speaker 1: lot of speculation, fairmongering, conspiracies put forth into space. This
Speaker 1: paper was prompted by Jeremy Farah, Tony Fauci, and Francis Collins.
Speaker 1: And Francis Collins was the head of the NIH the
Speaker 1: National Institute for Health. Ferrar was the head of the
Speaker 1: British nonprofit the Welcome Trust, which has deep ties to
Speaker 1: the pharmaceutical industry and the Gates Foundation and emails. On
Speaker 1: the day the paper was published, Ferrar was pushing through
Speaker 1: a crucial, crucial change. He said the following, this is
Speaker 1: a quote. Sorrow. Sorry to micromanage, micro edit, but would
Speaker 1: you be willing to change one sentence? And his change
Speaker 1: was to replace the word unlikely with the word improbable
Speaker 1: in a statement about the lab leak origin, so it
Speaker 1: would read it is improbable that SARS COVID two emerged
Speaker 1: through laboratory manipulation of an existing Stars related coronavirus. If
Speaker 1: you look at it. Fauci knew what he was doing.
Speaker 1: He prompted the scientist to write the article, and then
Speaker 1: he turns around and holds a press conference says, wow,
Speaker 1: look at this article. I don't know who wrote it,
Speaker 1: who knows, but they seem really credible. And you know what,
Speaker 1: it says the virus didn't come from a Chinese government lab. Now,
Speaker 1: mind you, that was false, and Fouche had all the
Speaker 1: evidence he needed to know it was false. He did
Speaker 1: that in February twenty twenty. Remember this podcast in March
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty, one month later laid out the facts
Speaker 1: then that I think made it indisputably likely that it
Speaker 1: had escaped from a Chinese government lab. But doctor Fouch
Speaker 1: she didn't like that political story and so was willing
Speaker 1: to essentially fabricate evidence to prompt a scientific study that
Speaker 1: would enable him to turn around and say, gosh, I'm
Speaker 1: just following the science. When I believe he knew he
Speaker 1: was misleading the American people. Yeah, the way he put
Speaker 1: it at that press conference just showed how how shady
Speaker 1: this was. Hey, get me this and then I'll cite
Speaker 1: it like I didn't know about it, Like you guys
Speaker 1: are independent and they're they're literally colluding on this on
Speaker 1: the own. I had a time. And then when he
Speaker 1: brings to the American peoples like I had nothing to
Speaker 1: do with this, just found this independent study and this
Speaker 1: is par for the course. Now, with what we're finding
Speaker 1: out through these investigations, the question is, though, will there
Speaker 1: be any accountability for this? Fauci got paid, he got famous,
Speaker 1: he walked away from our government, being the highest paid
Speaker 1: bureaucrat on our payroll in our government. Do you believe that,
Speaker 1: even with all of this coming out, will there be
Speaker 1: any accountability? Because at this point, I think that's what
Speaker 1: so many Americans want. They just want to know that
Speaker 1: somebody is going to get in trouble for what they
Speaker 1: did to us in this country with COVID lockdowns, etc. So, sadly,
Speaker 1: I don't believe there's going to be any federal criminal liability.
Speaker 1: And the reason is simple. Under our constitution, there's one person,
Speaker 1: and one person only on the face of the planet,
Speaker 1: that can bring federal criminal charges. His name is Merrick Garland.
Speaker 1: He's the Attorney General of the United States. He is,
Speaker 1: as we've talked about on this podcast multiple times, I
Speaker 1: think the most political attorney general this country's ever seen.
Speaker 1: I've asked Merritt Garland repeatedly if he's willing to investigate
Speaker 1: Anthony Fauci, if he's willing to prosecute Anthony Fauci for
Speaker 1: lying to the Congress, and Merritt Garland has refused to
Speaker 1: give a straight answer to that. As you and I
Speaker 1: said on this podcast at SEPAK last week, Merrick Garland
Speaker 1: might actually rival and even exceed Anthony Fauci for arrogance
Speaker 1: and self satisfied hubris. And that's hard to do. It
Speaker 1: is astonishingly hard to do. Both of them, I think
Speaker 1: have done enormous damage I think there will be accountability
Speaker 1: for Fauci number one in public opinion and public record.
Speaker 1: It's one of the values. What we're trying to do
Speaker 1: in the Senate, what we're trying to do in this podcast,
Speaker 1: what the House majority is doing with its subpoena power
Speaker 1: and its investigation sunlight is powerful. More and more people
Speaker 1: are learning that Anthony Foul was a liar. But he
Speaker 1: wasn't just a liar. He was a deliberate liar. He
Speaker 1: knew he was lying. He was willing to put politics
Speaker 1: above science and medicine. And on the left, you know,
Speaker 1: the left lives so often. And by the left, I
Speaker 1: mean democrats, I mean the bureaucratic estate of the regulators
Speaker 1: in our government, and I mean the media, the corporate media,
Speaker 1: that they live in a fact free environment where they
Speaker 1: have a narrative, they tell facts that they tell a
Speaker 1: story in the facts don't matter. And we now know
Speaker 1: not one but two agencies in the Biden administration admit
Speaker 1: what was obvious three years ago, which is that COVID
Speaker 1: likely escaped from a Chinese government lab. At this point,
Speaker 1: the Biden Department of Energy has concluded that, and the
Speaker 1: Biden FBI has concluded that, and that means when Fauci
Speaker 1: was teeing up these quote scientific articles, he was deliberately
Speaker 1: creating materials that were deceptive and the American people ought
Speaker 1: to be really ticked off. Why was Tony Fauci trying
Speaker 1: to cover up for communist China and for its culpability
Speaker 1: in this pandemic? Yeah, no doubt about it. And more
Speaker 1: this is coming out. We'll keep you updated on what
Speaker 1: is found. Specifically from the Republicans on the House side,
Speaker 1: is they're continuing to look into this. Finally, Senator, I
Speaker 1: want to talk about January the sixth, and these tapes
Speaker 1: have come out, They are being broadcast, the footage is
Speaker 1: being looked at the leadership of the Republican Party and
Speaker 1: in the Senate side, Mitch McConnell's saying he doesn't really
Speaker 1: like how this is going down, and I want to
Speaker 1: get your reaction that. Before I do that, I want
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Speaker 1: Patriot Mobile dot com slash verdict. Senator, January the sixth,
Speaker 1: There's been a lot of fodder. I've said this, you
Speaker 1: and I've talked about this. If you were attacking police,
Speaker 1: you deserve to be arresting, go to jail. If you're
Speaker 1: breaking down windows, you deserved to be arrested and go
Speaker 1: to jail. But there's a lot of tape that's now
Speaker 1: coming out and it's nothing like nine to eleven, which
Speaker 1: Democrats have said that it was like that day. And
Speaker 1: now we're finding out about the lives of the January
Speaker 1: sixth committee, where apparently they were altering sound, they were
Speaker 1: altering tape. The man who led that committee, Benny Thompson,
Speaker 1: was asked about this earlier by a reporter Carry Pickett
Speaker 1: at the Washington Times. This is what was said in
Speaker 1: the back and forth presentation that came out last night,
Speaker 1: calling generous sixth stink Washington Times. I just thought this
Speaker 1: calling the generous six selectimitty liars. So you guys selectively
Speaker 1: edited the tapes, said that you guys pretty much to
Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson, particularly the way you guys it out, selectively
Speaker 1: edited clips, put in sound that didn't exist from the
Speaker 1: producers from the from NBC. That tell me, I just
Speaker 1: told you it's not true. Well, then that's not true, okay.
Speaker 1: Senator Hally theah clipped with him running by himself when
Speaker 1: the fact that there are a whole bunch of senators
Speaker 1: who are actually running out together. When he was mocked.
Speaker 1: Is that true or is that not true? Senator Hally
Speaker 1: running by himself when he was running with a whole
Speaker 1: bunch of other senators. He was running with a whole
Speaker 1: bunch of their senators though he was running with a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of other senators. What about Jacob Chancelly, he
Speaker 1: was he was completely peaceful. Thank you, sir. I don't
Speaker 1: know him. Senator, this is the guy ran the January
Speaker 1: sixth Committee. He's saying, we didn't change any video except
Speaker 1: when you see the raw video. It's very clear that
Speaker 1: the January sixth Committee, who hired TV executives to producers
Speaker 1: to come run their hearings, they edited the hell out
Speaker 1: of these tapes and put things up there that just
Speaker 1: didn't happen. The January sixth Committee in the House of
Speaker 1: Representatives was a kangaroo court. It was designed to be
Speaker 1: a political circus. Nancy Pelosi structured it so it had
Speaker 1: only Democrats and two Republicans who would go along with
Speaker 1: the Democrats on everything. When Republicans wanted to put real
Speaker 1: Republicans who would stand up and actually cross examine witnesses,
Speaker 1: actually try to get to the facts of what happened.
Speaker 1: Pelosi said nope, nope, we don't want any cross examination,
Speaker 1: We don't want any facts. This is a political circus. So,
Speaker 1: for example, Kevin McCarthy wanted to put Jim Jordan on.
Speaker 1: Jim Jordan would have questioned the hell at every one
Speaker 1: of those witnesses. Nancy Pelosi said, oh, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: our witnesses can't handle questioning. No, no, no no, we don't
Speaker 1: want him there. You know, an ordinary congressional committee, you
Speaker 1: have a roughly equal member of a number of members
Speaker 1: from both sides, which means every witness that comes before
Speaker 1: them gets questioned by both sides. And there's a virtue
Speaker 1: to the give and take of a hearing if you
Speaker 1: think about it, a criminal trial. A criminal trial would
Speaker 1: be very different if the prosecution were the only people
Speaker 1: allowed to talk, Like if the defense lawyer didn't get
Speaker 1: to speak, you just had the prosecution present evidence. You
Speaker 1: know what, just about everyone would get convicted. It would
Speaker 1: take a terrible prosecutor who couldn't convict if the defense
Speaker 1: lawyer wasn't allowed to talk, wasn't allowed to question witnesses.
Speaker 1: That's what Nancy Pelosi did with a January sixth committee.
Speaker 1: She basically set up it was and you mentioned they
Speaker 1: hired a Hollywood producer, a producer from Good Morning America
Speaker 1: to put on a political infomercial, and the infomercial was
Speaker 1: designed to tell one worry about January sixth. That was
Speaker 1: deliberately one sided. And so I'm very glad Kevin McCarthy
Speaker 1: has handed the footage over from January sixth over to
Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson his show that he put out this week
Speaker 1: where he went through that video and he showed a
Speaker 1: lot of portions of video that were totally different from
Speaker 1: what that kangaroo court put out. And I think it's
Speaker 1: important for the American people to know what happened. As
Speaker 1: you said a minute ago, Ben, anyone on January sixth
Speaker 1: who committed a crime of violence, anyone who assaulted a
Speaker 1: police officer, that person should be prosecuted and go to jail.
Speaker 1: You don't get to commit a crime of violence, whether
Speaker 1: I agree with your politics or I don't. Violence is
Speaker 1: a crime and you should go to jail. But anyone
Speaker 1: who engaged in peaceful protests who simply spoke what they believed.
Speaker 1: There were thousands upon thousands of peaceful protesters there on
Speaker 1: January sixth who didn't violate the law, they exercised their
Speaker 1: First Amendment rights, and for two years we've seen democrats
Speaker 1: and the corporate media cynically trying to paint those little
Speaker 1: old ladies waiving American flags and singing God Bless America
Speaker 1: with the action of a much smaller number of individuals
Speaker 1: who committed crimes of violence, and so releasing this video
Speaker 1: is really powerful to show. As you've played in that
Speaker 1: exchange with a Washington Times reporter, the January sixth Committee
Speaker 1: released a video and then added a soundtrack. It's like
Speaker 1: a sitcom, adding the laugh track. They added noise that's
Speaker 1: not in the video. Why because it made really good TV. Wow,
Speaker 1: it sounded scary. They put a lot of scary noise there,
Speaker 1: so that must have been what it was like. And
Speaker 1: my hope is that this video gets reviewed and gets
Speaker 1: made available to the public. I hope much more widely
Speaker 1: than Tucker Carlson. I'm glad Tucker is making it available,
Speaker 1: but I think it ought to be available more widely
Speaker 1: so we can get a true and accurate picture of
Speaker 1: what happened. Those that committed crimes of violence can be
Speaker 1: held accountable, but those who are being persecuted for their
Speaker 1: political views, which is what the Biden administration can do.
Speaker 1: They can be exonerated, and this video is powerful on
Speaker 1: both fronts. You mentioned the other day and you asked
Speaker 1: the question of the FBI about Ray Epps specifically, and
Speaker 1: I think we should go back to that because one
Speaker 1: of the things that Tuger Carlson focused on on his
Speaker 1: second show was Ray Epps. Here's thirty five seconds of
Speaker 1: what he showed in these videos that many people have
Speaker 1: never seen about Ray Epps, who you asked about the FBI.
Speaker 1: Listen to this tonight. We can tell you that at
Speaker 1: the very least, Ray Epps live. In his sworn testimony
Speaker 1: to the January sixth Committee, Epps testified that when he
Speaker 1: sent the text messages to his nephew, he had already
Speaker 1: left the Capitol grounds to return to his hotel room.
Speaker 1: That is not true. The surveillance footage we found shows that,
Speaker 1: in fact, Ray Epps remained at the Capitol for at
Speaker 1: least another half an hour. You're seeing that on your screen. Now,
Speaker 1: what was Epps doing there? We can't say, but we
Speaker 1: do know that he lied to investigators. The January sixth
Speaker 1: Committee likely knew this too. Democrats had access to the
Speaker 1: same teape, yet they defended Ray Epps. No honest investigation
Speaker 1: would do that. But the point of the January sixth
Speaker 1: committee was never to investigate anything. The point was the
Speaker 1: stage of made for TV show trial. I mean, we
Speaker 1: see that time stamp. You see that Ray absolutely slied
Speaker 1: about this. Have you still and is there any chance
Speaker 1: that we're going to get a straight answer on who
Speaker 1: the hell Ray Apps is? And is he an informant?
Speaker 1: Was he put there by the FBI well sadly from
Speaker 1: the Biden Justice Department, from the Biden FBI? I think
Speaker 1: the chances are very slim. I would encourage podcast listeners
Speaker 1: go back and google a podcast we did a long
Speaker 1: time ago that is entitled who is Ray Epps? And
Speaker 1: we devoted an entire episode of Verdict to that question.
Speaker 1: And it followed a Judiciary Committee hearing in which I
Speaker 1: was questioning senior officials from the Department of Justice and
Speaker 1: from the FBI, and I asked them about how many
Speaker 1: undercover agents they had at the protest on January sixth.
Speaker 1: They refused to answer how many of them? Did any
Speaker 1: of them engage in acts of violence? They refused to answer,
Speaker 1: did any of them encourage or incite others to engage
Speaker 1: in acts of violence. They refuse to answer. If you
Speaker 1: look at ray Epps his behavior at the time, where
Speaker 1: he's urging people, we must go into the capital. Not
Speaker 1: just to the capital, we must go into the capitol.
Speaker 1: It's really quite remarkable. You watch the video, the crowd
Speaker 1: starts chanting at ray Epps, fed fed fed. The crowd
Speaker 1: believes he is working for the federal government. And I
Speaker 1: get to say, the lack of willingness to answer those
Speaker 1: questions from the Biden administration is incredibly troubling. Look, if
Speaker 1: someone commits a violent crime, they should be prosecuted. But
Speaker 1: there's an exception to that, which is if the federal
Speaker 1: government incites that crime, if the federal government entraps someone.
Speaker 1: In other words, an undercover cop can't come to your
Speaker 1: house and say, hey, Ben, have you looked down the street.
Speaker 1: There's a liquor store there. Maybe we had to go
Speaker 1: knock off the liquor store. What are you thinking. You're like, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't really need to come on, man,
Speaker 1: we can do it. We can do it. And if
Speaker 1: you go knock off the liquor store, you know what,
Speaker 1: at your criminal prosecution, you can raise a defensive and
Speaker 1: trapman and say, wait a second, it was law enforcement
Speaker 1: who came up with the idea. It was law enforcement
Speaker 1: encouraged me to do it. I wouldn't have done it.
Speaker 1: I was sitting at home recording a podcast until suddenly
Speaker 1: someone knocked on my door and said, let's go knock
Speaker 1: off a liquor store. The government can't do that. And
Speaker 1: so the question on January sixth, one of them most
Speaker 1: important questions, is to one extent, did federal law enforcement
Speaker 1: insight and entrap people into criminal violations? And the fact
Speaker 1: that Tucker has aired what appears to be video contradicting
Speaker 1: ray Epps's testimony that raises serious questions. And it's amazing
Speaker 1: the Democrats on the January sixth committee when ask about Yapps,
Speaker 1: they hate every single person who was at January sixth.
Speaker 1: They're all evil, horrific insurrectionists except Ray Apps. And they
Speaker 1: defend him like crazy, which I got to admit, when
Speaker 1: you have hardcore partisans defending someone, that certainly raises some questions.
Speaker 1: Why are they defending him? And to be quit, Ray
Speaker 1: Apps has never been charged with any crimes, Absolutely true,
Speaker 1: And I don't know, maybe there is an explanation. But
Speaker 1: on the face of it, so there's another video where
Speaker 1: he's in the crowd. He whispers in a guy's ear,
Speaker 1: and seconds later the guy starts tearing down the barricades
Speaker 1: to go into the Capitol. That conduct appears to be
Speaker 1: encouraging him to violate the law. We don't know what
Speaker 1: he whispered, but the fact that the FBI won't answer
Speaker 1: that question and listen, I get it as a general matter,
Speaker 1: your dad was in law enforcement for a long time.
Speaker 1: As a general matter, you send in an undercover cop,
Speaker 1: you don't admit who the undercover cop is, you don't
Speaker 1: admit what he's done. And by the way, undercover policing
Speaker 1: is a legitimate form of law enforcement. January sixth was
Speaker 1: not a typical day. I don't think that's hyperbole to
Speaker 1: say the Democrats and the Biden administration have suggested it
Speaker 1: was a national tragedy on the order of nine to
Speaker 1: eleven and Pearl Harbor. If they are going to maintain
Speaker 1: that's the case, the American people deserve to know what
Speaker 1: actually happened that day, and they need deserve to know
Speaker 1: what the precise level of culpability the federal government bears
Speaker 1: in the criminal conduct on that day, and yet the
Speaker 1: Biden DOJ and the Biden FBI remain dug in and
Speaker 1: animately opposed to any accountability. The FBI could answer this question,
Speaker 1: they refuse to, and it's because they ultimately don't think
Speaker 1: the public has a right to know. I think that's
Speaker 1: represents a grotesque disrespect for the American people, no doubt
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