Speaker 1: Welcome to Movie Crush, a production of I Heart Radio.
Speaker 1: Hey everybody, welcome to many Crushed Monday with no Hello Charles,
Speaker 1: Uh Noel, I'm gonna catch everyone up on what we
Speaker 1: were just talking about. He logged onto Skype. He said,
Speaker 1: let me make a file, and I went making files
Speaker 1: and he said, whatever happened to that guy? Roy Scheider? Yeah?
Speaker 1: He was great in Jaws. I said he died and
Speaker 1: you what did you say? I said, well, who's going
Speaker 1: to make the copies? Then? Oh? Man, Rob Schneider he
Speaker 1: died too. No, he did career. That's not the same thing,
Speaker 1: the tiny death. I don't know how tiny that is really.
Speaker 1: I mean, does he at least have a podcast? Surely
Speaker 1: on the train now now now shocked. That's not fair.
Speaker 1: It's not what I meant. I just meant, you know,
Speaker 1: it's a thing you can do when all else fails.
Speaker 1: I think I think you're right. Like Rob Schneider could
Speaker 1: probably get twenty people to listen to him say something
Speaker 1: into a mic. I bet he could. Uh. I mean
Speaker 1: David Spade as a podcast? Does he really? Yeah? With us? No,
Speaker 1: I don't know who it's with. He's got a TV
Speaker 1: show that's pretty good too on Netflix where he interviews like,
Speaker 1: you know, famous comedians and stuff. It's good. I like
Speaker 1: it he interviews. Uh, what's the one that I saw
Speaker 1: that was funny? Um? Maybe Norm McDonald? Yes, I love
Speaker 1: Norm McDonald. That guy's insane. He's he's truly insane. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Norm's the best. Uh. So to get things going here,
Speaker 1: I want to say a big, big, huge congratulations to
Speaker 1: my friend and friend of the show, actor Paul Schneider. Uh.
Speaker 1: We've had Paul on the show before for the great
Speaker 1: Back to the Future episode and Paul was He's a
Speaker 1: film actor, is how I know and love him. He
Speaker 1: was also on the TV show Parks and Wreck. And
Speaker 1: Paul and his lovely wife have just had their first
Speaker 1: little baby Schneids little Schneid's little Schneide's little baby girl.
Speaker 1: And uh, that's all uncomfortable revealing other than that she's
Speaker 1: a beautiful little girl and they are very, very over
Speaker 1: the moon. And I'm so happy for my for my buddy.
Speaker 1: That's lovely. Big ups to the Schneid's family. How are you, Noel,
Speaker 1: I'm good. We got some sad news this week. We've
Speaker 1: got a couple of big r I p s Uh, well,
Speaker 1: we the movie going community. I guess we've got Fred
Speaker 1: Willard passed away of you know, all the wonderful Christopher
Speaker 1: guest movie fame. You know, like, what is it? Um? What?
Speaker 1: What is what is the there's a TV show that
Speaker 1: he's in. What happened? Yeah? That was that in? I
Speaker 1: mean yeah, best in show was not a TV show,
Speaker 1: h it was a movie. And so I was waiting
Speaker 1: for Guffman. And of course, yes, he got his start
Speaker 1: in the you know, sixties and seventies Fernwood Tonight, and
Speaker 1: I believe he I think he might have been on
Speaker 1: the care Burnet Show at times, or might have that wrong.
Speaker 1: But Fred Willard is just one of the greats. My
Speaker 1: favorite thing about Fred Willard was like just two or
Speaker 1: three years ago in his early eighties when he got
Speaker 1: got uh busted, I guess at a porn theater and uh,
Speaker 1: the internet roundly just you know, we've come a long way. No,
Speaker 1: the Internet roundly was just like, oh Fred, poor thing,
Speaker 1: Like let's just show you how you do that these days? Right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't need to go to these theaters, no shame,
Speaker 1: don't don't feel guilty about any of this. And the
Speaker 1: old days people, you know, pee wee Hermann was hung
Speaker 1: up by his boots. Well, I didn't realize the extent
Speaker 1: of that. They apparently found like some some child porn
Speaker 1: like in his correct For Paul Rubens, I heard, yeah,
Speaker 1: they they rated him or something associated with that, and he,
Speaker 1: you know, I think what his excuse was that he
Speaker 1: had just a giant collection of like dirty materials that
Speaker 1: a lot of it was just for like you know,
Speaker 1: archival purposes, I guess, and within that he had some
Speaker 1: stuff that he claimed he didn't know what it was,
Speaker 1: and I think there was some underage stuff in there.
Speaker 1: But he seems to have emerged unscathed from that. And
Speaker 1: I'm glad that Fred Willard did too, because you know,
Speaker 1: I love that guy. Um he did. Did you ever
Speaker 1: see him at Sketch Fest? I know you always would
Speaker 1: go to sketch Fest, and I saw that he appeared
Speaker 1: there quite a few times. I never got to see
Speaker 1: him at sketch Fest, and I never got to meet
Speaker 1: the great Fred Willard. That would have been great. And boy,
Speaker 1: I did not know this about Paul Rubens. That's sort
Speaker 1: of distressing. Yeah, yeah, it kind of is. And also
Speaker 1: Lynn Shelton his work I'm not super familiar with, but
Speaker 1: I just know was a big, you know, mumble core
Speaker 1: director and did The hump Day and worked with you know,
Speaker 1: um the Mark Duplas a lot. And it was apparently
Speaker 1: you know, in a relationship with Mark Marin, who I
Speaker 1: love for the last year. So and yeah, he did
Speaker 1: a really tearful kind of I didn't hear it. I
Speaker 1: couldn't bring myself. It was very hard. It's about eight
Speaker 1: minutes of him talking about it. And then he re
Speaker 1: released his his episode where they he interviewed her and
Speaker 1: when they first met, it was it was brutal to
Speaker 1: listen to. Um. I Uh, I don't really know Mark.
Speaker 1: I've I've talked to him a few times. I've met
Speaker 1: him a couple of times, try to get him on
Speaker 1: movie Crush a bunch of times and been rebuffed or
Speaker 1: rather ignored, which is fine, but I'm I know that
Speaker 1: there's a lot of crossover listenership and uh, it's it's
Speaker 1: just brutal what happened and how it went down, and
Speaker 1: we're all thinking about him and her and her kid
Speaker 1: and her ex husband and it's just tough. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: that sad, sad couple of days this happened really close together. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, boy, I can't imagine losing anyone is tough,
Speaker 1: But suddenly out of the blue, seemingly healthy person just
Speaker 1: sort of collapsing and dying hours later out of nowhere,
Speaker 1: is uh. That's I can't imagine how someone would handle that,
Speaker 1: especially Mark, who's you know, very upfront about his troubles anyway.
Speaker 1: So I hope he's I hope he's gonna be all right.
Speaker 1: Podcast community is rallying around him though, and h I
Speaker 1: know he knows that and that is helping him a
Speaker 1: little bit, no question about him. What else you've been
Speaker 1: up to, nol. We haven't had you on in a
Speaker 1: little bit. We had Josh on. That one went over
Speaker 1: as expected. Yeah you did that again or just the
Speaker 1: one time, just the one time, but it was just
Speaker 1: released and got it. Boy he uh he lit up
Speaker 1: the world on this show. Oh good good, it was great.
Speaker 1: Good glad to be traveling in his wake. You're driving
Speaker 1: the friend, I kid my friend. I'll tell I don't
Speaker 1: think I yeah, I haven't really were on vacation last
Speaker 1: week and we didn't really communicate much. But I'm I'm
Speaker 1: moving into a bigger house. Um, ditching the roommate situation
Speaker 1: and what is happening next week on Friday. I've already
Speaker 1: got all my appointments for utilities and internet, so should
Speaker 1: be a pretty seamless transition. I'm doing like a real
Speaker 1: big boy move where I'm like packing boxes and shutting
Speaker 1: them with tape and labeling the sharpies. You know you're
Speaker 1: not You're not doing the eighteen trips in the car. No, No,
Speaker 1: I'm past that, chuck. I've really moved on in my life,
Speaker 1: and you know, it's interesting, I was kind of thinking
Speaker 1: about my trajectory as a single dude, Like, you know,
Speaker 1: I got divorced and was living in Athens and we
Speaker 1: owned a house, and I was working in Atlanta already
Speaker 1: and kind of staying in Atlanta a couple of days
Speaker 1: a week with my buddy who I have lived with
Speaker 1: for quite a while, and um, it was just a
Speaker 1: quick fix to get a roommate, and he we already
Speaker 1: lived together half the time, you know, when I was
Speaker 1: up in Atlanta and the place we were living was
Speaker 1: an old friend of his, and it wasn't an ideal situation.
Speaker 1: So we were just like, ship, let's just get a
Speaker 1: place together, and it just kind of continued. It wasn't
Speaker 1: by necessity, it was more just like a comfort level thing.
Speaker 1: We're just like, you know, like brothers almost, and so
Speaker 1: it's kind of the end of an era. But I
Speaker 1: realized it was all a product of like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: it was that that divorce and me needing to move
Speaker 1: very quickly and him being kind of like a ready
Speaker 1: made way of you know, because it's expensive to get divorced,
Speaker 1: I needed a little you know, someone to kind of
Speaker 1: help share the costs. And then it just kind of
Speaker 1: stayed and we we we moved places together once and
Speaker 1: now he's moving off with his girlfriend and I'm moving
Speaker 1: in with a place by myself with my kid and um,
Speaker 1: the thing I'm most excited about is it has a
Speaker 1: giant room for all my studio stuff, which is which
Speaker 1: which has been stuffed in my bedroom for the last
Speaker 1: you know, handful of years. So it's a three bedroom
Speaker 1: and the biggest room in the house opens to the
Speaker 1: outside back porch area, So I'm gonna have likew wuches
Speaker 1: in there and coffee table and all my records and
Speaker 1: it's gonna be my whole man cave studio office situation,
Speaker 1: especially as we're gonna continue working from home, god knows
Speaker 1: how long. So inside, Oh no, that's great. I'm so
Speaker 1: happy for you. And without getting too specific, where is
Speaker 1: it again? I know it's closer to me, right, it's
Speaker 1: very close to you. Yeah, it's East Lake Candler Road area, Like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, dude, that's right around the corner. Yep, yep,
Speaker 1: I love it. Uh you know. No, there's an old
Speaker 1: divorce lawyer joke. Do you know why divorced is so expensive?
Speaker 1: Mm hmm have you ever heard this one? Do you
Speaker 1: know why divorces so expensive? I don't because it's worth it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the old joke. Well, funnily enough, the new place,
Speaker 1: it was actually my ex wife who found it for me,
Speaker 1: and it is walking distance from their house, and I'm
Speaker 1: very close with her and her husband and I have
Speaker 1: a baby together. And who's my daughter's you know, uh
Speaker 1: little sister. You guys are gonna be able to walk
Speaker 1: to each other, walk to each other. So the whole
Speaker 1: thing is great. Everything about it is just and it
Speaker 1: all worked out. I had money scrolled away. I've been
Speaker 1: kind of you know, I had a raise, Like I'm
Speaker 1: just now really able to comfortably do this by myself.
Speaker 1: And I love it, feel good about it. So I
Speaker 1: can't wait. Man, Maybe I'll see you around the neighborhood.
Speaker 1: No throwing, would love, would love that? Throw tomato at
Speaker 1: your head. That's what neighbors do, totally. You borrow a
Speaker 1: cup of sugar, you throw tomato with their head. Put
Speaker 1: me in the stock aids. Do you have one of
Speaker 1: those in the neighborhood, just kind of in the square? Uh? Well,
Speaker 1: I have a stock Aide in my backyard, but I
Speaker 1: haven't been able to use it lately because of social
Speaker 1: d That's fair, all right. No, let's get going here.
Speaker 1: It's good to see you again. Uh, we're gonna get started.
Speaker 1: This is a Crusher special because we had some The
Speaker 1: Crushers are just crushing it lately, pardon the fun with
Speaker 1: some great, great posts and getting some great disc discussions going.
Speaker 1: And we're gonna start off with Dan Maynard. Uh. Dan
Speaker 1: is one of our oldest elson. He has now been
Speaker 1: labeled a hot cup of coffee conversation starter on Facebook.
Speaker 1: You know what that means adding another cup of coffee? No,
Speaker 1: it just means Dan is the man. So he posted
Speaker 1: this movies that aged well for you and not it
Speaker 1: holds up more than it takes on a new meaning
Speaker 1: as you get older. Uh, and Dan himself says ET
Speaker 1: takes first place. As a kid, it was a sci
Speaker 1: fi buddy adventure film. As an adult you begin to
Speaker 1: recognize it's about a family dealing with a heavy divorce,
Speaker 1: struggling to work as a family, and Et becomes Elliott's
Speaker 1: safety blanket. Man, I haven't seen Eat in a minute,
Speaker 1: you know. I watched US And actually in the last
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, I watched Wayne's World with my daughter,
Speaker 1: and last night we watched Wayne's World two and and
Speaker 1: there's a scene at this radio station where the desk
Speaker 1: woman is uh played by a very young, lovely peak
Speaker 1: beauty uh Drew Barrymore and she played swede named Burgan
Speaker 1: Burgen or something. And I told Mike kid because she's
Speaker 1: really flirtatious, and my kid gets squigged out by that
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. I'm like, that was a little girl
Speaker 1: for me, and she goes, oh, that's funny. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: we finally made the Goonies decision and watched The Goonies
Speaker 1: with Ruby a couple of weeks ago, and uh, she
Speaker 1: was great and it was fine, and she heard the
Speaker 1: words ship like seven times, and that's about on par
Speaker 1: with how many times she hears it in a week
Speaker 1: in our house. And it was it was great. She
Speaker 1: loved it. It was a lot of fun, so under
Speaker 1: the belt wonderful. How old is she again? Five in July,
Speaker 1: so yeah, yeah, I mean it's a little young for sure,
Speaker 1: but she enjoyed it. It was a great adventure for her.
Speaker 1: Uh let me see here. Jill Novicki Lynch says, I
Speaker 1: just heard of Beetlejuice described as a very adult movie,
Speaker 1: so I'd like to watch it again. I can't remember
Speaker 1: a ton from being a kid, but I'm betting it's
Speaker 1: a whole new movie now. Yeah, Beetlejuice is not a
Speaker 1: kid's movie, no, I mean, it's got some kind of
Speaker 1: borderline like gore, you know when uh they pull pull
Speaker 1: their pull their faces off, you know, sort of silly looking.
Speaker 1: But if you're a real little that that'd be some
Speaker 1: nightmare fuel right there. There's definitely some stuff in it
Speaker 1: that you could qualify as kind of scary. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: would not. Uh yeah, Beetlejuices is not for kids. It
Speaker 1: could be a little upsetting, I would think, m hm.
Speaker 1: And it's just the humor is not really kid humor either.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, it's above their head. I think, well,
Speaker 1: even just the way it handles death and grief and loss,
Speaker 1: it's pretty heavy, honestly. Yeah, for sure. Let me see here.
Speaker 1: Our old friend Menhile Data says the Matrix. I was
Speaker 1: blown away as a preteen, but didn't really understand what
Speaker 1: I was watching. Every time I've watched it since, I
Speaker 1: gain more insight and appreciation, and the effects are just awesome.
Speaker 1: Ha ha uh. Yeah, the effects I think hold up
Speaker 1: pretty well. I completely disagree. Oh, you don't think they
Speaker 1: hold up. I just think they're they've been copied so
Speaker 1: much that they just it's not their fault. But it's
Speaker 1: just that bullet time stuff and the whole spinning around
Speaker 1: in the crane pose thing. It's just been it's just
Speaker 1: been ripped off so many times and kind of like parodied. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when you see it. I watched it recently, and I
Speaker 1: watched it with my kid and we were both just
Speaker 1: like kind of laughing how like dated it looked. But
Speaker 1: it was so revolutionary at the time, and if you
Speaker 1: separate it from all of the copycats, it is still
Speaker 1: really badass. But it's so hard to do that, and
Speaker 1: then then that's that's that's that's my problem. It's no
Speaker 1: one else's problem. It's a great movie. I got you. Uh.
Speaker 1: Lori Jordan says Nine to five When I'm watching as
Speaker 1: a kid, it never occurred to me though it end
Speaker 1: up in a career working in offices predominantly for male bosses.
Speaker 1: Still relevant and very enjoyable. Yeah, that movie was ahead
Speaker 1: of its time, I think, or not ahead of its time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's a comedy. Okay, well you should see nine
Speaker 1: to five, knowl it's to light. Yeah, okay, really really
Speaker 1: fun movie. Uh. And that trio man Jane Fonda, Lily
Speaker 1: Tomlin and Dolly Parton just doesn't get any better. We've
Speaker 1: talked about this before. Yeah, isn't it doesn't Dolly pardon
Speaker 1: smoke weed or something in it. Yeah, they have a
Speaker 1: they have a weed scene. It's a lot of fun. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's funny. Jane Fonda especially is really good in the movie. Uh.
Speaker 1: Sarah Stapleton says, Aliens still don't get many female leads
Speaker 1: like Ripley. Yeah, that's true. Alien holds up dude. Now,
Speaker 1: the effects in that, the practicals, it's just so based
Speaker 1: on like their real reactions and like when the when
Speaker 1: the face hugger pops out and everyone like freaking out
Speaker 1: apparently they really we're seeing that effect for the first
Speaker 1: time and genuinely freaking the funk out, Like it's so
Speaker 1: crazy that Ridley Scott made two science fiction films in
Speaker 1: the late seventies and early eighties that still look good.
Speaker 1: M Yeah, it's bonkers. Blade Runner and Aliens still look
Speaker 1: really good, and not in a like, well, I'll give
Speaker 1: it a pass, like they look great. See that's the thing,
Speaker 1: Chuck Matrix. All digital computer e stuff that gets into
Speaker 1: proved upon practical effects always holds up like the thing.
Speaker 1: I watched the thing recently. It looks awesome. You can't
Speaker 1: mess with that practical stuff. You just can't. Yeah, I agree,
Speaker 1: Mike Anderson, says Rushmore. It has always had three generations
Speaker 1: to choose slash identify with, and as they get older,
Speaker 1: I see them in different ways. Wow, I never really
Speaker 1: thought about that, You've got I guess the three generations
Speaker 1: would be the kids, and then the teacher, and then
Speaker 1: Herman would be because he was that another generation to
Speaker 1: see that much older than Yeah, I think so, I think,
Speaker 1: I think I think he's meant to be. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a good point. And I guess herman and and Max's
Speaker 1: father would be the third generation. Yeah, I get it. Uh,
Speaker 1: let me see here. Uh, Andre Andrea do Pui Greece says,
Speaker 1: field of dreams that really relate strongly with different characters,
Speaker 1: especially more now so as a parent of a teen
Speaker 1: who will be a senior. Speaking of which, nol you
Speaker 1: know I did. Ah, I did one of those commencement
Speaker 1: speeches for the podcast and really enjoyed it. I did
Speaker 1: all the voiceover bumps for them, and I enjoyed it
Speaker 1: slightly less. Yeah, I did not recognize your voice. That's
Speaker 1: so funny. Yeah, I'm the male one. Lauren Vogelbam did
Speaker 1: the female ones, but I did all of the Yeah.
Speaker 1: Lauren's she's kind of our go to. Uh she does,
Speaker 1: she does a really great job. Well I'm the other
Speaker 1: go to, Chuck, did you not know this? No, Well
Speaker 1: I know your go to. Can you give the lady?
Speaker 1: Can you give women props? For once? I did? I'm
Speaker 1: just kidding. I'm trying to out you as a I
Speaker 1: love women PC offender. Uh, Lawrence set up to record
Speaker 1: at home. I need to get her On Damn Man. Absolutely, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm lining people up. Uh. We have some
Speaker 1: special shows coming up everyone. I'm gonna do a Flophouse run.
Speaker 1: All three guys in the Flophouse. I'm gonna get on
Speaker 1: and post them all three in a row. So fans
Speaker 1: of the Flophouse, you're gonna enjoy uh little run of crossover.
Speaker 1: And we're also going to do since Max fun Con
Speaker 1: is obviously canceled this year, we're still going to do
Speaker 1: our friendly Fire crossover uh sometime around the same time
Speaker 1: and get that out as well, which I'm very excited about.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, all right, let's do one more here. Baird Williams.
Speaker 1: Swederman says Clueless SAWT in the theater as a kid
Speaker 1: and loved it. Uh, watched all the time. Now it's
Speaker 1: one of mine and my wife's favorite and I get
Speaker 1: all the jokes that I missed. Is a twelve year
Speaker 1: old great movie. Yeah, it's good stuff. Yeah, it's one
Speaker 1: of the It's a good point that he makes because
Speaker 1: it's one of those movies you can definitely appreciate as
Speaker 1: a younger viewer and you don't feel talked down to
Speaker 1: or like pandered to or anything or that anything is
Speaker 1: like purposefully over your head. But then there's a lot
Speaker 1: of nuance, uh as you get older that you pick
Speaker 1: up on it, and it just kind of like keeps
Speaker 1: revealing layers, which is funny to say about what is
Speaker 1: ultimately kind of a vapid movie. But it's pretty smart
Speaker 1: in its vapidness, Like it's it's really lampoon ing that
Speaker 1: kind of culture and that kind of behavior that like
Speaker 1: Beverly Hills, you know, bullshit culture. You know. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: one of Emily's favorite movies. I like it as well.
Speaker 1: The great Amy Heckerling directed that film. She's fantastic, is alright.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna go with our second category here from Noble,
Speaker 1: Long and Noble. I don't believe I recognize you from
Speaker 1: the page, but you killed it with this conversation starter,
Speaker 1: so welcome, he says, And I can't believe we've never
Speaker 1: done this in all favorite movie score composer, do you
Speaker 1: have one? I have several? Well, I know you do,
Speaker 1: and I know some of them. I know. I know
Speaker 1: you're gonna say John Carpenter. Yeah, I love John Carpenter.
Speaker 1: I know you're gonna say the guy the Safty brothers.
Speaker 1: Use I do like him as well. Um. I've always
Speaker 1: been a big fan of Ennio Morricone. He's he's sort
Speaker 1: of known for this one sound you know, in this
Speaker 1: uh in the sound that he's sort of invented, that
Speaker 1: spaghetti western you know kind of thing. But he's he's
Speaker 1: it's an ocarina, which is like this, he took a
Speaker 1: weird instrument and kind of made it this quintessential signature,
Speaker 1: you know, for that whole score. Um. But he also
Speaker 1: does a lot of like Italian you know, kind of
Speaker 1: more swinging sixties kind of scores somewhere like Bert Backer
Speaker 1: rac And he's pretty versatile, and he's done uh, you know,
Speaker 1: he's just some horror stuff. He obviously did the Tarantino
Speaker 1: you know, uh uh Payful eight. And he's he's a
Speaker 1: really just interesting versatile composer and I'm a big fan
Speaker 1: of his. Really love Hans Simmer, another very versatile composer. Versatile,
Speaker 1: like that's that's the thing that I think is interesting
Speaker 1: and really really really love uh um uh the guy
Speaker 1: from Devo Mark Mother's a bomb because he's you know
Speaker 1: the way the way uh Wes Anderson used him. He
Speaker 1: has this kind of thing where he can kind of
Speaker 1: do these like styles, Like he obviously has a thing
Speaker 1: where like, oh that's a mark Mother's bawtoon, but he
Speaker 1: also has this chameleonic ability to kind of do different
Speaker 1: things for different directors and become their kind of sound
Speaker 1: really interesting dude, Yeah, I agree. And you know Hans
Speaker 1: Zimmer was Noble Long's pick. Uh. You know all those
Speaker 1: are on my list as well. I'm gonna go back
Speaker 1: and shout out an old school guy though, the great
Speaker 1: Henry Mancini. Uh he was you know Henry Mancini's work.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Pink Panther, Baby, Pink Panther, Breakfast at Tiffany's
Speaker 1: Victor Victoria, uh two. For the road Shot in the Dark,
Speaker 1: he did a lot of Peter Sellers stuff. Um, Peter gunn.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's one of the most legendary film scores
Speaker 1: of all time, I think. And then Dun Dun Dun
Speaker 1: Dun Dun Dun Dun Dun dunt. Yeah, wow, so great.
Speaker 1: And then he did some darker, darker stuff with touch
Speaker 1: of evil and Wait until Dark. Um, just a legend.
Speaker 1: Like if if you look up his filmography, it's just
Speaker 1: intimidating to stare at Baby Elephant Walk. Oh yeah, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: so what is that? Is that just that's just a piece,
Speaker 1: right is that from I don't think it's from a movie. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought too too. Uh So, Lee Dallas says, you
Speaker 1: mean second favorite, because you know John Williams and there's
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of John Williams. Um. Oh, Jeremy
Speaker 1: Barney says, the great Danny Elfman of course, Oh, of course. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I would have mentioned him to I love
Speaker 1: he's another one that like he's got the Danny Elfman sound,
Speaker 1: but then he also does movies that you kind of
Speaker 1: forget he had anything to do with. He can really
Speaker 1: like slip in and out of like all these different styles. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that the boy that Tim Burton stuff is just
Speaker 1: so signature and cinematic. It's really really great. And that's
Speaker 1: another example of a wonderful, you know, relationship between a
Speaker 1: director and a composer that really pushed them both kind
Speaker 1: of two new heights, you know. I mean, you can
Speaker 1: like Tim Burton movies and the Danny Elfman scores are
Speaker 1: kind of inseparable for one of them, in the same
Speaker 1: way that the Wes Anderson movies and The Mark Mother's
Speaker 1: Boss scores are kind of you really, I have those soundtracks,
Speaker 1: you know, growing up and all of the Mark Mother's
Speaker 1: Boss sound cues that made it in between all those
Speaker 1: wonderful sixties jams. Uh, we're just as memorable, you know,
Speaker 1: totally totally old friend John Michael Epp says, Michael Giacchino
Speaker 1: had to look him up. But now that I'm seeing
Speaker 1: his uh filmography, just a lot of huge movies, a
Speaker 1: lot of J. J. Abrams stuff, Planning of the Apes movies,
Speaker 1: Jurassic World's Utopia, Dr Strange, Spider Man, Homecoming, Jojo Rabbit,
Speaker 1: The Batman, End of Days, Landed, The Lost Cars Mission Impossible. Geez. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's he's one of the big big daddies. Uh. You
Speaker 1: know what. You don't see enough of his female composers.
Speaker 1: And it's probably for the same reason as every other
Speaker 1: reason in Hollywood, probably, And that's a really good point.
Speaker 1: I can't think of a bunch off the top of
Speaker 1: my head. There's obviously the great Wendy carlos Um, who
Speaker 1: you know, did all of the music for Clockwork Orange,
Speaker 1: and but that was a work that already existed pre
Speaker 1: Clockwork Orange. But a great example of repurposing something and
Speaker 1: and making it, you know, again inseparable from the movie.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think of those synth versions of all
Speaker 1: those classic you know, Beethoven pieces and stuff, and it's
Speaker 1: really just they're one and the same in my mind. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And of course we had this discussion during the Oscars,
Speaker 1: but this year we finally got a woman that won
Speaker 1: the Oscar for Joker. Remember the uh Hilder, I have
Speaker 1: no idea how to pronounce it Hilder. And then it's
Speaker 1: a bunch of letters, yeah exactly. And that so that
Speaker 1: that that was a beautiful score. They'll that cello piece
Speaker 1: when he's kind of doing the slow motion dancing or whatever,
Speaker 1: that I think was largely improvised, and he did it
Speaker 1: to the score. I'm not mistaken. I heard an interview
Speaker 1: where he was talking about how they played the score
Speaker 1: and he did that kind of on the fly when
Speaker 1: he's in the bathroom kind of dancing with himself or whatever.
Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, and apologies for not knowing how to
Speaker 1: pronounce her name. But it's Icelandic, and there are there
Speaker 1: are little signs of of the letters in Icelandic that
Speaker 1: I don't even know what they mean, Like give me
Speaker 1: a noomle out. I know what to do with a
Speaker 1: noom out, but I don't even know what this is.
Speaker 1: It Mainly it makes it a sure or a bure
Speaker 1: or a fur okay really depending I mean, I don't know, Okay,
Speaker 1: mainly mainly sure pure fure. Are you sure she's not Swedish?
Speaker 1: So wait, she's icelandic icelandic has the little oh's, the
Speaker 1: little mini kind of like O O symbols the top
Speaker 1: of them. They're like, uh, I don't even know how
Speaker 1: to get those on a keyboard. Man, It's like some
Speaker 1: kind of weird control and one eight nine code thing.
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's I think you just have to
Speaker 1: buy a computer in Iceland for that door. Probably that's
Speaker 1: probably true. Uh. Former guest Craig Johnson, our friend is saying,
Speaker 1: John Carpenter, of course, Danny Elfman and Basil Polodorus don't
Speaker 1: know that person. Brad Honey says, Philip Glass, of course,
Speaker 1: Vangelius and Morricone. Uh huh, I forgot about Vank Gallis, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and uh Philip Glass legend. Absolutely, it seems like once
Speaker 1: you get like I know a lot of people do
Speaker 1: film scores because there's a ton of movies. But there's
Speaker 1: I feel like there's like eight people that do a
Speaker 1: lot of the movies, major movies. You know. Oh for sure,
Speaker 1: it's like a yeah, and it's it's and it's a
Speaker 1: total boys club, no question about it. Um. But I'm
Speaker 1: a big fan of like you know again, like it's
Speaker 1: the same with Danny Elfman. Like Danny Elfman was in
Speaker 1: an eighties kind of weirdo rock band, Nano Boingo, and
Speaker 1: he kind of had a relationship with Tim Burton for
Speaker 1: like Peewee's Big Adventure, and he that he sort of
Speaker 1: found his way into film scoring. He obviously was classically
Speaker 1: trained because he you know, knew how to play keys
Speaker 1: and knew how to read music and all that show
Speaker 1: you can't just fake that. But he found his way
Speaker 1: into that world. He's got one of those masterclasses. We've
Speaker 1: seen those which I would really like to watch his.
Speaker 1: I want to get ahold of that because he's an
Speaker 1: interesting fellow. And the way he came by the same
Speaker 1: way Mark Mother's Ball came by it. You know, Devo
Speaker 1: was post punk kind of widow band and he now
Speaker 1: is this like he makes he does full orchestral scores,
Speaker 1: you know, like and it's just happened. Like it's one
Speaker 1: of those fake it till you make it kind of
Speaker 1: situations with dudes like that. And I really respect that,
Speaker 1: respect that and appreciate and go. They were great. Uh.
Speaker 1: And Hans Simmer, you know, he did one of my
Speaker 1: favorite scores of all time with the True Romance score,
Speaker 1: which was uh, which borrowed heavily from the Um Jesus Christ.
Speaker 1: Now I can't even remember it, the bad Lands score
Speaker 1: Terrence Malick film. I don't know who did that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that he kind of borrowed from that, uh, from
Speaker 1: that great great score. But Hans m I'm not saying
Speaker 1: he ripped anyone off. Are you a Terence Malick fan? Yes,
Speaker 1: like unequivocally you think he can do no wrong? Oh no, no, no.
Speaker 1: I think he has made some of my very very
Speaker 1: favorite movies of all time. And and I think he
Speaker 1: is also lost his way a little bit, and I
Speaker 1: think he might have found his way. I haven't seen it,
Speaker 1: but this new movie. I just found The Tree of
Speaker 1: Life to be a little too pretentious for me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it kind of it kind of lost me. He
Speaker 1: did those other I didn't even see, uh. Night of
Speaker 1: Cups Night of Cups. I did not see that. I
Speaker 1: don't know. It's weird for a guy to take that
Speaker 1: much time between films and then just start churning them
Speaker 1: out that the critics aren't loving. It's it's just an
Speaker 1: interesting trajectory for a career. I think our good friend
Speaker 1: Casey Pegram really stands by him every step of the way.
Speaker 1: And uh, I respect Casey so much and his taste
Speaker 1: and we have a lot in common. But there are
Speaker 1: a few of those that I just don't see the
Speaker 1: way he sees and I think it may may well
Speaker 1: just be he's seeing the cinematography and just like you know,
Speaker 1: the craft of it all, maybe more than I'm willing
Speaker 1: to just overlook the fact that I think the story
Speaker 1: is a little light and maybe a little on the
Speaker 1: you know, pretentious side. Um, but I have you seen
Speaker 1: have you seen a ghost story that that movie? No?
Speaker 1: I haven't, but I'm a big fan of of the director,
Speaker 1: and I actually know that his producing partner through Josh
Speaker 1: and you me as a friend of There's Toby. Um.
Speaker 1: They also did uh Ain't the uh Ain't the Body Saints?
Speaker 1: What's the name of that movie? It's something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: I was just talking about it with um with my
Speaker 1: friend last night. Um Re kind of Terence Malick. It
Speaker 1: kind of had those vibes, and there are parts of
Speaker 1: it that I just thought were gorgeous and beautiful and poetic,
Speaker 1: and there were parts of it where I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: come on, like I really want to see it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I I think you should. I would love to.
Speaker 1: I'd love to chat with you about it. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: it's a beautiful premise. Uh, let me see. Oh here's
Speaker 1: the one we haven't mentioned. I think overlooked these days
Speaker 1: because he's also a rock and roll musician. Alexi Politt says,
Speaker 1: Trent Resner and Atticus Ross totally wonderful, good stuff. Sh
Speaker 1: Brennan says Alan sylvestr mm hmmm, name rings a Bell.
Speaker 1: I think he's one of those like classic old school
Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken. Uh, he's sort of old school.
Speaker 1: Oh well, he did The Avengers. Yeah boy, that's a
Speaker 1: great score for sure. Yeah. He was working in the seventies,
Speaker 1: it looks like, and it has just done a ton
Speaker 1: of movies, including Back to the Future, to Romancing the
Speaker 1: Stone Fly to The Navigator, Young Guns, sub distriment. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he did a bunch of good movies, but I think
Speaker 1: he will forever be known for for those Avengers scores.
Speaker 1: Those are great. You know when you really nail a scores,
Speaker 1: when you when the score itself becomes just part of
Speaker 1: the fabric of culture to where you can't disassociate it
Speaker 1: from the film. You know. Sure, sure we should start
Speaker 1: up a shoutout soundtrack show, by the way on our network.
Speaker 1: A bunch of people here asking about the soundtrack show
Speaker 1: and commenting on it. Really really great show on our network.
Speaker 1: It truly is. Yeah. He does really cool kind of
Speaker 1: dissections of of film scores and talks about the history
Speaker 1: and the references, musical references and the uh you know,
Speaker 1: just the craft of of of scoring. A film. Excellent
Speaker 1: host who himself as a wonderful composer and voice actor
Speaker 1: and really knows the ins and outs of all the
Speaker 1: stuff that we're talking about here. So highly recommend you
Speaker 1: checking that one out. Yeah, this is a friend of Holly's,
Speaker 1: uh David Collins I think is his name, That is correct,
Speaker 1: And um, it was one of the kind of when
Speaker 1: we started opening up the network and really um going
Speaker 1: out and sourcing talent. Holly brought him in. He was
Speaker 1: one of the first guys we brought in. And it's
Speaker 1: just a total total film score and soundtrack nerd in
Speaker 1: the best way. He's he's really wonderful. Highly recommend So no,
Speaker 1: we are going to finish up with a little stream
Speaker 1: and this I will start while you can think about
Speaker 1: what you've been watching. And I'm gonna continue with Red
Speaker 1: Oaks and I've talked about it a bunch, but that
Speaker 1: is the show that we are just now getting into
Speaker 1: season three, the third and final season. This show has
Speaker 1: been comfort food like you would not believe. It is wonderful.
Speaker 1: Show said in the eighties again at a h swimming
Speaker 1: tennis and racket club and golf Tennesse and Rackett that's
Speaker 1: the same thing, and it just it's great, man. It's
Speaker 1: it's an eighties thing, so it has all the feel
Speaker 1: of an eighties movie, but there's still a lot of substance,
Speaker 1: and the characters are just so well rounded and they
Speaker 1: have such great arcs, and the acting is great. The
Speaker 1: casting is just amazing. Um Hodgeman is in seasons two
Speaker 1: and three and he does some of his best work
Speaker 1: as an actor. I think Paul Riser is fucking phenomenal.
Speaker 1: He's so good and the lead I actually I had
Speaker 1: no idea. Uh. You know, it's one of these things
Speaker 1: when you see an actor and then you find out there,
Speaker 1: uh from another country and they're doing an American accent.
Speaker 1: But but you find out way later. It's really really
Speaker 1: freaky because apparently this guy, Craig Roberts is Welsh and
Speaker 1: I never would have picked picked up on that in
Speaker 1: a million years. He's he's fantastic. It's just not well
Speaker 1: And how come the that come These Europeans can do
Speaker 1: such good American accents, but Americans that's such a hard
Speaker 1: time doing good European acts. I don't know. Man, he's
Speaker 1: great though. He's a great face actor, Uh, just lovable
Speaker 1: And I just can't recommend Red Oaks enough. If you
Speaker 1: need some comfort food watching their thirty minutes shows and
Speaker 1: you can buzz through three seasons pretty quickly, I recommend
Speaker 1: you do so nice. I have been very much enjoying
Speaker 1: a new show on Netflix called The Midnight Gospel. Um,
Speaker 1: it's fucking fantastic. I mean, I don't know, it's not.
Speaker 1: It's not for everybody, it's um it's from Pendleton Ward
Speaker 1: who is the animator, creator, kind of genius psychedelic brain
Speaker 1: behind Adventure Time, which I'm a huge fan of. It's
Speaker 1: one of those great shows that's, you know, you can
Speaker 1: definitely watch with kids. It's four kids, but there's a
Speaker 1: lot of nuance and weirdness kind of buried in there,
Speaker 1: or not even buried really, it's kind of right on
Speaker 1: the surface. But The Midnight Gospel is him collaborating with
Speaker 1: comedian thinker existential weirdo Duncan trustle Um, who has a
Speaker 1: podcast called I think it's called The duncan trustle Family
Speaker 1: Hour where he has these kind of metaphysical chats with
Speaker 1: thinkers and weirdos and uh, they actually take excerpts from
Speaker 1: that and animate to it um in addition to punching
Speaker 1: in and adding little extra bits. And he plays the
Speaker 1: main character who's this kind of h um, I don't
Speaker 1: know what you call it. He wears a wizard. Had
Speaker 1: someone to call him a space wizard, but he really
Speaker 1: just he's a He has a space cast Um, which
Speaker 1: is a podcast but it's you know, in space, and
Speaker 1: he has the simulation machine that can beam him into
Speaker 1: these simulated alternate universes where he kind of learns these
Speaker 1: lessons um and it's all based around like dharma and
Speaker 1: you know, Zen Buddhism and like drug culture, and it's
Speaker 1: like it's really intensely violent at times, but it's beautiful.
Speaker 1: It's animated kind of like that movie The Point um
Speaker 1: or Yellow Submarine. It's kind of got that kind of big, blocky,
Speaker 1: colorful kind of you know, designed to it, and it's
Speaker 1: just you gotta give it a chance, chuck it might.
Speaker 1: It's it's a bit much at first, but it's just
Speaker 1: it's really cool. It's really really cool. I will check
Speaker 1: that out. Uh, did you ever finish Dev's You? No?
Speaker 1: I haven't. I need to. That's next on my list.
Speaker 1: Next on my list is finished. Well, we're barreling through
Speaker 1: red Oaks and then then we need to go back
Speaker 1: to Ozark. But we kind of put that away for
Speaker 1: a moment because we just needed the comfort food more
Speaker 1: than we needed stressful TV shows. But then after that,
Speaker 1: I know there's this uh stuff you should know. Fan
Speaker 1: Mark Ruffalo is in a supposedly great new HBO short
Speaker 1: run series called I Know This Much Is True, where
Speaker 1: he plays a thing's based on novel where he plays
Speaker 1: twin brothers that's supposed to be great but heavy, and
Speaker 1: I want to see this Tales from the Loop. I've
Speaker 1: heard it's really really good. I've seen the first three
Speaker 1: episodes and it's wonderful. Yeah, it's it's sort of like
Speaker 1: a less depressing Black Mirror. It's a less dystopian, uh,
Speaker 1: slightly more hopeful, a little bit more just kinder, gentler
Speaker 1: black Mirror. And it's got the wonderful Jonathan Price in it,
Speaker 1: who's always a delight and he's sort of a central figure.
Speaker 1: All the stories revolve around characters that work or are
Speaker 1: adjacent to in some way this research facility called the
Speaker 1: loop Um where all of these experiments are taking place
Speaker 1: with you know, dark matter and like other kinds of
Speaker 1: like technology. And it's beautifully shot, and it's really interesting
Speaker 1: because it's actually based on the art of this uh
Speaker 1: icelandic Um surrealist kind of painter um who works completely digitally,
Speaker 1: but his stuff really looks like just these massive paintings.
Speaker 1: And uh, it's really neat because the actual stories are
Speaker 1: based on these wordless story books that he did, and
Speaker 1: so they definitely like went in different directions. But all
Speaker 1: he does these like you know, Swedish like kind of
Speaker 1: like Sylvan landscapes interspersed with like mec robots. And he's
Speaker 1: got a whole series two where there's like dinosaurs running
Speaker 1: through cities and stuff. And I that'll be another name
Speaker 1: that I'm not gonna be able to pronounce. Um let me,
Speaker 1: let me. Let's see if I can try, though, because
Speaker 1: you gotta check out his work, Chuck. You may have
Speaker 1: seen some of them just pop up in memes. Uh,
Speaker 1: let's see artists. His name is uh. Here we go
Speaker 1: his name, Oh, I know you guys love this. Luca No,
Speaker 1: Luca Brazzi. His name is uh Okay Simon's dalin hog
Speaker 1: uh and it has one of those little oh's over
Speaker 1: the e that we talked about earlier. And I think
Speaker 1: he's Icelandic. He might be Swedish, but I think he's No,
Speaker 1: he's Swedish yea, So check it out. Highly recommend him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it sounds right at my alley. And speaking of art,
Speaker 1: I want to give a big shout out to the
Speaker 1: illustrator for the Stuff you Should Know book that's coming
Speaker 1: out everyone, which you can pre order now. The Stuff
Speaker 1: you Should Know an incomplete compendium of mostly interesting things.
Speaker 1: And we got an artist named Carly Menardo out of
Speaker 1: New York. That is fantastic and I love her work,
Speaker 1: and uh, it's one of my favorite things about this
Speaker 1: book is seeing these pages come together with Carly's illustrations.
Speaker 1: And I think you all are gonna love it as well.
Speaker 1: It's really shaping up to be a a fun, fun book.
Speaker 1: That's awesome, Chuck. I think there might be a book
Speaker 1: project in in my future as well. I know. Are
Speaker 1: you allowed to talk about it? It's it's I don't
Speaker 1: want to talk about it quite yet because it's still
Speaker 1: in the works, but stay tuned, and I'm really excited
Speaker 1: to see y'alls. Man. You guys are that kind of
Speaker 1: the first big push in our stuff family world of
Speaker 1: books that I think is right. It's gonna be a deal,
Speaker 1: very exciting for all of us. We've all wanted to
Speaker 1: do books for a long time. And a big shout
Speaker 1: out to Flat Iron Press for partnering up with us.
Speaker 1: And like I said, you can pre order. If you
Speaker 1: pre order, you get little special things that we're trying
Speaker 1: to figure out what they are. So that's it for
Speaker 1: this episode. Noel, thanks for joining me, and I'll see
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