WEBVTT - Hour 3 - Golf Merger, Jeff Van Gundy 0:00:00.720 --> 0:00:03.559 You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 0:00:03.600 --> 0:00:07.640 Sports Radio Final Hour on this Tuesday, Dan and the 0:00:07.720 --> 0:00:10.680 Dan Eds Dan Patrick Show. I did not expect to 0:00:10.680 --> 0:00:16.479 say the following PGA Tour and the Live Tour are merging. 0:00:18.960 --> 0:00:22.599 That one came out of nowhere, and I guess they're 0:00:22.600 --> 0:00:24.919 still working on the details. A lot of fine print here, 0:00:24.960 --> 0:00:29.240 but looks like after the twenty twenty three season that 0:00:29.360 --> 0:00:34.120 they would be merging. Who's having a worse day Rory McElroy, 0:00:34.240 --> 0:00:37.440 J Monahan, who's the commissioner of the PGA Tour, Brandal 0:00:37.479 --> 0:00:40.599 Shamblee who works for the Golf Channel as an analysts. 0:00:41.920 --> 0:00:45.839 They're probably all the above there, although Jay Monaghan, he's 0:00:45.880 --> 0:00:48.920 going to get credit or blame here with what's happening, 0:00:50.360 --> 0:00:53.920 probably going to be label to hypocret here. Rory has 0:00:54.160 --> 0:00:57.240 fought hard for the PGA Tour. He has carried the 0:00:57.240 --> 0:01:00.560 water for quite some time. Randal Shamblee, the golf fanelist 0:01:00.880 --> 0:01:04.280 for a Golf Channel as well. Final Hour coming up. 0:01:04.319 --> 0:01:06.319 Jeffvan Gundhi of the Mothership. He'll be on the call 0:01:06.400 --> 0:01:09.959 tomorrow night. Game three with the Miami Heat and the 0:01:10.000 --> 0:01:12.720 Denver Nuggets. The Nuggets started out his two point favorites. 0:01:12.760 --> 0:01:16.119 Now it's up to two and a half. Entertainment purposes. 0:01:16.319 --> 0:01:20.120 Only the best tennis players in the world on the 0:01:20.120 --> 0:01:23.160 the red clay courts of Roland Garrols. I don't think 0:01:23.200 --> 0:01:26.600 they have that accent in France. Do they have Southern 0:01:26.640 --> 0:01:28.400 accents in France. 0:01:28.120 --> 0:01:29.040 Like southern France. 0:01:29.319 --> 0:01:33.200 Yeah, I've been to Nice, I've been in southern France, 0:01:33.240 --> 0:01:35.440 but I don't think they have. You know, if we 0:01:35.440 --> 0:01:38.640 we we folker jas or shay on Libra. 0:01:39.240 --> 0:01:43.080 It's it's nice, then it's no, it's it's nice knees. 0:01:43.200 --> 0:01:44.760 Are you down in south they call it? 0:01:44.840 --> 0:01:45.000 Yes? 0:01:45.200 --> 0:01:47.640 N I live in Nice. Yes. 0:01:47.720 --> 0:01:50.880 Don I think they say we we should guess their 0:01:50.920 --> 0:01:52.240 little southern freads accent. 0:01:52.600 --> 0:01:56.240 Roland Garros the red clay cords of Roland Garros in Paris, 0:01:56.320 --> 0:02:05.200 the French Open on NBC and Peacock not Roland Garros rolling. Hey, Roland, 0:02:05.440 --> 0:02:10.400 what's all? Hey, Roland? What you're doing, Marvin? You're trying 0:02:10.400 --> 0:02:13.000 to keep it together after what Fritz you had to say. 0:02:13.240 --> 0:02:16.400 Whenever he says something, you just start reading. 0:02:18.200 --> 0:02:18.640 Guard him. 0:02:18.720 --> 0:02:22.840 Yes, well, okay? Is it is it worse if I 0:02:22.960 --> 0:02:26.040 just go and start reading something and don't acknowledge him, yes, 0:02:27.200 --> 0:02:29.600 or if I do acknowledge you, and I might say 0:02:29.639 --> 0:02:32.880 something that is not not okay acknowledgement. 0:02:32.960 --> 0:02:35.080 It looks like he heard it then had a response 0:02:35.639 --> 0:02:36.680 that's negative. 0:02:36.440 --> 0:02:39.760 Thank you to okay, that's what I say. So you 0:02:39.880 --> 0:02:42.600 usually say that that's I'm trying to tell you, okay. 0:02:42.720 --> 0:02:43.640 Sometimes I said something. 0:02:43.680 --> 0:02:45.679 This show is brought to you by He's right onto 0:02:45.720 --> 0:02:47.840 the next thing. Let's go to Frank in Tallahassee. 0:02:48.040 --> 0:02:52.480 Thank you, Todd Well. Vegas beat the Panthers seven to 0:02:52.840 --> 0:02:54.920 last night. They're up to to oh in the Stanley 0:02:54.960 --> 0:03:00.280 Cup Final. Thank you mar That is snarky, uh ts 0:03:00.320 --> 0:03:02.320 that when the first two games of the Stanley Cup 0:03:02.360 --> 0:03:06.040 Final are forty eight to five since they started going 0:03:06.040 --> 0:03:09.079 to a best of seven. Serious if that factors in 0:03:09.160 --> 0:03:12.720 with you in your daily life. So jeffvan Gundi will 0:03:12.800 --> 0:03:14.840 join us coming up. We talked a lot about the 0:03:14.919 --> 0:03:20.440 NFL investigating the Colts defensive back Isaiah Rogers for gambling violations, 0:03:20.960 --> 0:03:26.000 and from what we've been told earlier today, there could 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:29.760 be as many as ten to twenty other players who 0:03:29.800 --> 0:03:34.160 could be involved in this. With the NFL basically playing 0:03:34.280 --> 0:03:38.240 phone tag, they're following your phone, wherever you're placing these bets, 0:03:38.240 --> 0:03:41.840 wherever the bets are coming from. And that's what happened 0:03:41.840 --> 0:03:45.560 with Isaiah Rodgers, who has admitted that he has gambled. 0:03:45.760 --> 0:03:47.600 We don't know. He said he gambled on the Colts. 0:03:47.640 --> 0:03:49.240 I don't know if he gambled on the Colts to 0:03:49.360 --> 0:03:53.040 win or gambled on the Colts to lose. But either way, 0:03:53.600 --> 0:03:55.920 I would think he would be done for the upcoming season, 0:03:55.960 --> 0:03:58.600 and he was expected to be a starter for the Colts. 0:03:59.040 --> 0:04:01.840 Final our poll question their seaton, what do you have? 0:04:02.520 --> 0:04:02.760 Damn? 0:04:02.760 --> 0:04:06.840 We put a bunch up actually today so far? All well, 0:04:06.880 --> 0:04:09.680 we're going to start right now with who's having the worst? 0:04:09.800 --> 0:04:14.440 Dame Rory McElroy, J Monahan, Bramdles Yet okay, we also 0:04:14.440 --> 0:04:16.800 put up there off of an earlier topic. If I 0:04:16.880 --> 0:04:20.120 ran the NFL, my biggest concern would be player gambling issues, 0:04:20.440 --> 0:04:23.560 player concussions or health or none we do no wrong? 0:04:25.600 --> 0:04:28.800 Right now, seventy one percent is health and concussions. Okay, 0:04:29.760 --> 0:04:32.720 but gambling and none we do no wrong is actually tied. 0:04:32.760 --> 0:04:37.599 So that's fun. I would vote for a do no wrong. 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:40.840 They can do no wrong. Yeah, even when they do. 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:46.760 They don't. They survive everything. Everything's just speed bump, you know. 0:04:46.880 --> 0:04:48.919 Or it's a pothole, it's not a crater. It's just 0:04:49.440 --> 0:04:52.760 all right. Somehow got to negotiate round this or even 0:04:52.800 --> 0:04:57.680 through this, but they somehow make it all happen year 0:04:57.720 --> 0:05:00.240 in and year out. Because when it comes down to 0:05:00.320 --> 0:05:03.200 player safety, I do think the players care about their safety, 0:05:03.200 --> 0:05:05.960 but they care about that paycheck, that extra paycheck. So 0:05:06.040 --> 0:05:08.160 you can't sit here and say, hey, we really care 0:05:08.160 --> 0:05:12.680 about the player's safety, let's add a seventeenth game. Well, 0:05:12.680 --> 0:05:17.160 the players know that, Hey, yes, we care about our 0:05:17.839 --> 0:05:20.880 you know, health and safety, long term term, short short term. 0:05:20.880 --> 0:05:23.120 But look at the money that's there. An extra paycheck, 0:05:23.160 --> 0:05:26.240 it's there. And let's say I play five years, so 0:05:26.480 --> 0:05:30.440 I'm getting five more game checks. You got the pension 0:05:30.640 --> 0:05:33.479 that you have to factor in as well. I don't 0:05:33.480 --> 0:05:36.200 know if the owners the NFL doesn't care about player 0:05:36.240 --> 0:05:39.239 safety until they have to care about player safety, because 0:05:39.279 --> 0:05:41.359 if they cared about player safety, then you wouldn't have 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:44.039 a seventeenth game. You would just say, hey, I know 0:05:44.080 --> 0:05:48.200 it's a financial winfall, but we're worried about our players. 0:05:48.960 --> 0:05:51.320 You know, they're only worried when it cost them a 0:05:51.320 --> 0:05:54.200 billion dollars in a lawsuit. I don't know if and 0:05:54.480 --> 0:05:56.960 I understand the players that are willing to roll the dice. 0:05:57.400 --> 0:05:58.960 I think you roll the dice when you play the 0:05:59.000 --> 0:06:02.960 sport to begin with. Okay, I could get hurt, I 0:06:03.000 --> 0:06:05.760 could have permanent damage here. I'm going to roll the 0:06:05.760 --> 0:06:09.080 dice in the interim, and while I'm young, I'm going 0:06:09.120 --> 0:06:11.240 to try to get as many paychecks as possible. I 0:06:11.279 --> 0:06:15.600 get it, all right, Let's see. I get a couple 0:06:15.560 --> 0:06:18.000 of phone calls in here, Matt and Iowa joins us, 0:06:18.000 --> 0:06:19.360 Hey Matt, what's on your mind today? 0:06:20.920 --> 0:06:25.159 Hey DP, my man. Past of the day. Start out 0:06:25.200 --> 0:06:29.560 with gotta love you know, and go Stace killer love it? 0:06:30.480 --> 0:06:37.240 And for Marvin, can you reference from Ray Kwan's album 0:06:37.360 --> 0:06:48.440 Cuban Links only built for Iowa alumni player? There was reference? Okay, 0:06:48.960 --> 0:06:52.320 Austin Celtics versus Toronto Raptors. 0:06:53.120 --> 0:06:56.040 All right, we thank you, Matt, Matt and Iowa. 0:06:56.800 --> 0:06:59.840 Yes, Mark, that is a deep dive, deep cut and 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:02.440 I'm taking the loss on that one because I haven't 0:07:02.440 --> 0:07:04.560 heard the album in full in ten years. 0:07:04.600 --> 0:07:08.640 And okay, so there's an Iowa athlete who is referenced 0:07:08.680 --> 0:07:13.640 on the album. Correct, yes, okay, Boston Celtics Toronto Raptors. 0:07:14.720 --> 0:07:16.400 I'm I'm lost. 0:07:16.720 --> 0:07:18.040 Okay, you did. 0:07:17.960 --> 0:07:20.239 The player play for Iowa then the Celtics? Is that correct? 0:07:20.240 --> 0:07:20.480 Marvin? 0:07:21.400 --> 0:07:24.800 I see Ed Horton. I am this lost now after 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:26.480 Google ray Kwon? 0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:28.800 Hey, Matt, did Paul get it? 0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:33.760 He was drafted by the Celtics traded to the Raptors 0:07:33.800 --> 0:07:36.040 in the expansion draft? 0:07:36.120 --> 0:07:36.679 I believe? 0:07:39.520 --> 0:07:45.400 Okay, so Raptors Boston Celtics reference I'm the only built 0:07:45.440 --> 0:07:46.840 for Cuban Wings album. 0:07:46.920 --> 0:07:50.040 Because you guys are Matt, Matt, Matt, you can tell 0:07:50.120 --> 0:07:57.120 us a okay, a sero it is? Yeah, a Seero 0:07:57.400 --> 0:08:01.040 big Man drafted by the Celtics then went to the Raptors. 0:08:01.480 --> 0:08:02.520 Oh, next time, I'll use that. 0:08:07.040 --> 0:08:09.200 Sometimes you have those days where you're like, is it 0:08:09.320 --> 0:08:12.360 me or is it the audience? Like what's going on here? 0:08:14.080 --> 0:08:15.239 Mike and Fort Myers? 0:08:15.320 --> 0:08:15.520 Hi? 0:08:16.040 --> 0:08:18.400 Mike, how you doing? 0:08:18.480 --> 0:08:18.640 Dan? 0:08:18.720 --> 0:08:19.160 Break time? 0:08:19.200 --> 0:08:19.680 A long time? 0:08:19.760 --> 0:08:20.040 Yeah? 0:08:20.640 --> 0:08:25.360 Hey, this lives. PGA tour things pretty surprising. I mean, 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:28.960 do the current PGA Tour players now have dollar signs 0:08:28.960 --> 0:08:31.400 in their eyes? I mean, are you going to get 0:08:31.400 --> 0:08:34.040 twenty million for coming in tenth place at the Memorial. 0:08:34.120 --> 0:08:39.520 Now, I think that there will be restructuring, but I 0:08:39.559 --> 0:08:42.360 think Victor Hobblin made three point two million for winning 0:08:42.360 --> 0:08:45.120 the Memorial. Do I think there's going to be this 0:08:45.200 --> 0:08:47.680 influx of money, Well, I don't know. If the Saudi's 0:08:47.720 --> 0:08:49.600 are going, hey, we want to invest in the PGA 0:08:49.760 --> 0:08:55.360 tour would seem a little hypocritical, but at this stage 0:08:55.360 --> 0:08:57.959 of the game, you're just trying to make it better 0:08:58.400 --> 0:09:01.199 in whatever means. You can guess, yes, Ton. 0:09:01.120 --> 0:09:03.079 And that initial big money was just a steal guys 0:09:03.080 --> 0:09:04.640 away to the tour. Now that it's a merger and 0:09:04.679 --> 0:09:06.760 they don't have to start showing out crazy money, they're 0:09:06.760 --> 0:09:07.720 all together now. 0:09:07.960 --> 0:09:08.720 Yeah, yeah, pulp. 0:09:08.840 --> 0:09:09.040 Yeah. 0:09:09.040 --> 0:09:11.120 Guys like Dustin Johnson. He got one hundred and twenty 0:09:11.120 --> 0:09:13.720 five million dollars signing bonus to join the Live tour. 0:09:13.960 --> 0:09:16.880 That is not refundable. It's it's in his account. So 0:09:17.200 --> 0:09:19.079 he's gonna go back and play whatever this new deal 0:09:19.160 --> 0:09:21.199 is on the PGA tour. He keeps his one twenty 0:09:21.240 --> 0:09:25.720 five for eleven months work, sorry, fifteen months work. 0:09:25.800 --> 0:09:30.760 Yeah. What happens to Greg Norman? He just to buy 0:09:30.760 --> 0:09:33.160 out kind of like over his dead body, that this 0:09:33.320 --> 0:09:36.679 was going to happen. Phil Mickelson, he wants to come 0:09:36.720 --> 0:09:41.199 back to you know, these press conferences are going to 0:09:41.200 --> 0:09:43.600 be better than the actual tournaments when these guys come back, 0:09:43.800 --> 0:09:49.040 just asking questions, Phil, uh, why did you come back? 0:09:50.640 --> 0:09:54.160 Or Randall Shamblay talking about the players coming back. The 0:09:54.240 --> 0:09:55.880 press conference is going to be pretty good. 0:09:56.040 --> 0:09:58.679 Yes, Mark Freezing Cole takes on Twitter is gonna have 0:09:58.679 --> 0:09:59.359 a field. 0:09:59.160 --> 0:10:05.240 Day with some of the oh Man And I didn't 0:10:05.280 --> 0:10:07.719 regrudge you. If you wanted to take the money, then 0:10:07.800 --> 0:10:09.760 just say take the money. But do not tell me 0:10:09.800 --> 0:10:13.720 you're making the game better because nobody cared about the 0:10:13.760 --> 0:10:20.360 live tour. You got your money, Okay, Yeah, but don't 0:10:20.360 --> 0:10:22.280 sit here and tell us that you're you're telling us 0:10:22.320 --> 0:10:25.240 that you know your altruistic motive was, we want to 0:10:25.240 --> 0:10:29.120 make the game better by playing fifty four holes, getting 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:32.160 one hundred million dollars and we get to play loud music. 0:10:32.960 --> 0:10:35.200 I'm sorry, that doesn't make the game better. That sounds 0:10:35.240 --> 0:10:38.960 like a weekend with me and I'm not playing on 0:10:39.000 --> 0:10:40.040 the tour. Yeah. 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:43.120 See, I just can't I need somebody to explain all 0:10:43.120 --> 0:10:45.520 of this to be yeah, because I just really can't 0:10:45.640 --> 0:10:48.720 figure it out like it feels like a loss for 0:10:48.760 --> 0:10:52.000 the PGA because they merged with Live, But at the 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:56.000 same time Live nobody cared, nobody watched, nobody whatever. They 0:10:56.000 --> 0:11:02.120 threw away hundreds of millions of dollars, but now are 0:11:02.160 --> 0:11:06.079 more relevant. So I can't really wrap my mind around 0:11:06.080 --> 0:11:08.440 how this is all working right now. I mean, did 0:11:08.520 --> 0:11:11.800 j Monahan save golf or did he kill it? I 0:11:11.800 --> 0:11:14.679 don't really know. It's probably one of the two. Did 0:11:14.720 --> 0:11:17.120 the Live Tour get what they wanted out of this? 0:11:18.400 --> 0:11:23.400 And is this what they wanted? I don't know until 0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:27.920 the details come out. Yeah, it's all surface stuff now, yeah, pum. 0:11:27.840 --> 0:11:29.240 If you go back a year ago, but the PGA 0:11:29.240 --> 0:11:31.720 of President J Monahan seemed to be waging a war 0:11:31.960 --> 0:11:35.880 of ethics against the Live Tour, using old school American 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:38.400 golf fans and others to say, like, look at this tour, 0:11:38.440 --> 0:11:41.520 Look who's funded by. There's some lot of very terse 0:11:41.559 --> 0:11:45.040 stuff nine to eleven related type jabs, and he was 0:11:45.080 --> 0:11:47.360 all in. And then guys like Rory McRoy carried his 0:11:47.400 --> 0:11:50.120 water all year and others Jordan Speith, and they dinged 0:11:50.160 --> 0:11:54.480 the Live Tour and maybe behind their backs they said, hey, man, 0:11:54.840 --> 0:11:58.480 we can't outspend the Saudi Royal Fund. At the end 0:11:58.480 --> 0:12:00.600 of the day, there's there a certain we have a 0:12:00.640 --> 0:12:04.520 cap of finances and if we don't do this merge now, 0:12:04.559 --> 0:12:06.240 we maybe not be to have the chance to merge. 0:12:06.320 --> 0:12:08.760 I remember when Bryson Deshamba came out and said after 0:12:08.840 --> 0:12:12.760 Brooks Kopko won, PGA's like, ah see that validates you 0:12:12.840 --> 0:12:16.960 know our tour. No it doesn't. You've got some of 0:12:17.000 --> 0:12:19.440 the best players in the world. You guys should be 0:12:19.480 --> 0:12:22.599 competing when you get a chance to compete in the majors. 0:12:23.200 --> 0:12:26.200 Yes, but if that if the public Investment Fund or 0:12:26.200 --> 0:12:30.880 whatever is essentially just throwing money, just gobs of money 0:12:31.040 --> 0:12:38.199 into a gigantic hole, why are you worried about outspending them. 0:12:38.360 --> 0:12:43.080 I live Golf, I mean it ultimately did nothing except 0:12:43.080 --> 0:12:45.240 for give a bunch of players a ton of money. 0:12:46.040 --> 0:12:48.240 It didn't really like I mean, I don't know how 0:12:48.320 --> 0:12:53.200 much the PGA really suffered with livetour. So if they're 0:12:53.240 --> 0:12:55.520 just throwing their money into a gigantic hole and not 0:12:55.559 --> 0:12:59.120 doing anything but just wasting it, then what's the problem. 0:12:59.240 --> 0:13:02.040 Well, I think the pg got hurt because marquee players 0:13:02.080 --> 0:13:05.880 were not playing, but it was. You know, this is 0:13:05.920 --> 0:13:08.360 a short period of time that we've talked about this, 0:13:08.400 --> 0:13:11.680 which is really amazing that all of a sudden you're 0:13:11.720 --> 0:13:15.040 closing up shop because I was told that the Live 0:13:15.080 --> 0:13:17.720 Tour was going to go after women. They were going 0:13:17.760 --> 0:13:19.920 to get they were going to create their own, you know, 0:13:19.960 --> 0:13:22.679 golf empire there. You were going to have a live 0:13:22.760 --> 0:13:24.600 tour for the women, You're going to have the live 0:13:24.679 --> 0:13:28.760 tour for the men, and they were going to be separate, 0:13:28.800 --> 0:13:32.840 separate entities. It just they couldn't spend enough money to 0:13:32.920 --> 0:13:36.079 get a TV deal where we might watch it. I mean, 0:13:36.080 --> 0:13:39.880 we're watching XFL and USFL and we don't even know 0:13:39.920 --> 0:13:43.240 those players. If Dustin Johnson and Brooks Kopka and some 0:13:43.280 --> 0:13:46.360 of those guys are playing, you're watching, but you know, 0:13:46.559 --> 0:13:49.440 trying to find them. And then it's fifty four holes 0:13:49.559 --> 0:13:54.240 and so I don't know who won here unless it's 0:13:54.280 --> 0:13:55.480 the golf fan yeah pulling. 0:13:55.520 --> 0:13:56.800 I think it's be interesting to find out that the 0:13:56.800 --> 0:13:59.280 PGE Tour as the name even exists a month from now, 0:13:59.520 --> 0:14:01.360 because the Lived Tour is going to want to have 0:14:01.440 --> 0:14:04.040 input on the name. PJ Tours want to have input. Also. 0:14:04.280 --> 0:14:07.080 We have four majors those are the four weekends everybody 0:14:07.160 --> 0:14:10.000 watches golf in America and worldwide. What if one of 0:14:10.000 --> 0:14:13.640 those majors is now played in riod or somewhere like that. 0:14:13.720 --> 0:14:17.040 The PJA Championship, which is the fourth of the Brothers, 0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:20.040 you know, that maybe not be played in America anymore. 0:14:20.200 --> 0:14:22.240 That could be played if I'm the lift or that's 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:22.600 what I want. 0:14:22.680 --> 0:14:24.360 Yeah, I don't know what the PGA Tour had to 0:14:24.400 --> 0:14:25.080 compromise on. 0:14:25.480 --> 0:14:30.080 That's when I'm curious, name locations, tour stops in America. 0:14:31.160 --> 0:14:34.600 No, I don't know. I don't know. I mean, if 0:14:34.640 --> 0:14:37.040 I'm the PGA Tour, I would have been, hey, you guys, 0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:40.120 stay and we don't need you. We'll move on, we'll 0:14:40.120 --> 0:14:45.560 make stars. But I'm not. I don't know the logic here, 0:14:46.560 --> 0:14:49.440 so I'd be, you know, playing darts in the dark, 0:14:49.480 --> 0:14:52.720 trying to figure out exactly what's going on and how 0:14:52.760 --> 0:14:56.480 they came to this now and kept it quiet for 0:14:56.520 --> 0:14:58.680 such a long period of time. They obviously didn't tell 0:14:58.720 --> 0:15:02.160 their players, because that didn't stop Michelson from saying things 0:15:02.160 --> 0:15:06.000 about Rory McElroy recently, and that was like during the 0:15:06.000 --> 0:15:09.960 tournament that the memorial, he was saying things so five 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:12.400 days ago he's saying things. Four days ago he's saying 0:15:12.440 --> 0:15:13.840 things about Rory McElroy. 0:15:13.880 --> 0:15:15.440 Yeah see, yeah, I mean I don't know that just 0:15:15.480 --> 0:15:18.920 because these two there there's been this big merger that 0:15:18.960 --> 0:15:23.880 people have to play nice, now do they? 0:15:24.040 --> 0:15:27.440 I don't know as far as the golfers, Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:15:27.480 --> 0:15:28.920 I don't know. I hope not. I mean, I hope 0:15:28.960 --> 0:15:32.240 there's tension out there now. I hope there's rivalries. 0:15:33.080 --> 0:15:35.040 Yes, I saw on the bottom of the press release 0:15:35.080 --> 0:15:38.880 bull sides still hate Patrick reed. It's official. They've agreed 0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:39.440 upon that night. 0:15:39.520 --> 0:15:42.600 Clear that up. Jeff Van Gundy from the Mothership will 0:15:42.640 --> 0:15:45.160 join us. Coming up next here on the Dan Patrick Show. 0:15:47.400 --> 0:15:51.840 Kings Hawaiian Sliders Sunday. 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Game three NBA 0:17:11.400 --> 0:17:15.440 Finals Tomorrow night, tip off eight thirty Eastern on ABC. 0:17:16.359 --> 0:17:18.880 It was on this date in nineteen eighty four Kevin 0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:23.400 McHale close lines Kurt Rambus Game four NBA Finals, and 0:17:24.000 --> 0:17:26.760 I'm not sure was Kevin McHale not called for a 0:17:26.800 --> 0:17:29.720 foul in them That would have been a playoff foul. Yeah, PAULI, 0:17:30.000 --> 0:17:31.040 I'm watching the play now. 0:17:31.359 --> 0:17:35.600 It's chaos because when Rambus gets hit, he gets hit 0:17:35.640 --> 0:17:40.400 by Jerald Henderson first, and then Rambus McHale's come from 0:17:40.680 --> 0:17:42.480 the back and hooks him around the neck. But the 0:17:42.920 --> 0:17:45.320 ref is being blinded. He can't see it. I don't 0:17:45.320 --> 0:17:46.000 see a foul call. 0:17:46.280 --> 0:17:49.120 Wow, I'm reading an article here. 0:17:49.200 --> 0:17:51.920 It says in nineteen eighty four. However, maybe hard to believe, 0:17:51.920 --> 0:17:54.200 but only McHale received a foul for his action. 0:17:54.440 --> 0:17:58.000 Oh okay, yeah, yeah, that was playoff basketball back then, 0:17:58.080 --> 0:17:59.960 Jeff Right, that was a regular foul. 0:18:01.480 --> 0:18:03.200 Yeah, there wasn't. 0:18:02.880 --> 0:18:06.320 I don't know when the flagrant foul came in to being, 0:18:06.680 --> 0:18:09.040 but I just my first one that I remember is 0:18:09.080 --> 0:18:12.120 when I was an assistant with the Knicks and John 0:18:12.160 --> 0:18:17.320 Stark's clothesline Scottie Pippen in a similar manner, and I 0:18:17.359 --> 0:18:18.000 think that was. 0:18:17.960 --> 0:18:18.800 A flagrant fowl. 0:18:18.800 --> 0:18:21.480 But you're not getting thrown out for that back then, 0:18:21.560 --> 0:18:24.880 that was like bad boy slap on the wrist, put 0:18:24.920 --> 0:18:25.960 the ball back in play. 0:18:26.800 --> 0:18:29.680 Both teams are playing the we get no respect card? 0:18:29.960 --> 0:18:32.119 Which one has a better argument in this series? 0:18:34.080 --> 0:18:39.239 Neither one's a top seed in the West, and have 0:18:39.800 --> 0:18:42.480 you know was in first place since December and the 0:18:42.600 --> 0:18:46.919 other team beat the two best records in basketball on 0:18:46.960 --> 0:18:49.560 the way to the finals. So I think both have 0:18:49.760 --> 0:18:54.719 gotten the appropriate amount of credit for what they've been 0:18:54.720 --> 0:18:57.919 able to accomplish, which is immense. They've done great things, 0:18:57.920 --> 0:19:03.320 and I think this no one respects us. It may 0:19:03.359 --> 0:19:05.560 play well in their own individual locker rooms, but I 0:19:05.600 --> 0:19:06.600 don't think it's true. 0:19:07.400 --> 0:19:09.760 Is this a pivotal Game three tomorrow night? 0:19:10.960 --> 0:19:12.120 I think they always are. 0:19:12.480 --> 0:19:18.560 I think, you know the split by Miami, what a 0:19:18.600 --> 0:19:19.920 great fourth quarter they. 0:19:19.880 --> 0:19:21.200 Played, and. 0:19:22.720 --> 0:19:26.720 The two days off lets both teams gather and re 0:19:26.920 --> 0:19:32.280 energize and recharge. And I think Denver has played really 0:19:32.320 --> 0:19:37.120 good basketball for six of the eight quarters. I thought 0:19:37.119 --> 0:19:40.360 they had a bad first or really like they had 0:19:40.359 --> 0:19:44.120 two bad fourth quarters, I mean really like bad fourth 0:19:44.160 --> 0:19:48.040 quarters in both games, and their start in Game two. 0:19:49.160 --> 0:19:52.439 Was probably very unacceptable to Michael Malone. 0:19:52.760 --> 0:19:54.840 I know you have to know your team as a coach, 0:19:54.920 --> 0:19:58.720 but Michael Malone calling out his team for a lackluster performance, 0:19:59.040 --> 0:20:05.439 especially on defense. That's not Eric Spolster's playbook, but it 0:20:05.520 --> 0:20:08.800 is Michael Malone. Are you surprised at all with that 0:20:08.920 --> 0:20:12.000 tech that approach by him? 0:20:12.040 --> 0:20:14.879 You know, I've always wondered what we want out of 0:20:14.960 --> 0:20:18.600 coaches when you ask them a question. Do you want 0:20:18.640 --> 0:20:22.919 an honest response or do you want like him saying 0:20:22.960 --> 0:20:25.040 we tried hard, Because if you go back and you 0:20:25.080 --> 0:20:30.760 watch the game, there were a lot too many possessions 0:20:30.800 --> 0:20:38.560 that were either lacked intelligent process or didn't give enough 0:20:38.920 --> 0:20:40.879 effort to get the job done. 0:20:41.000 --> 0:20:43.760 So I'm not sure exactly what we wanted to say. 0:20:43.560 --> 0:20:48.480 There, like, yeah, fouling two three point shooters, love. 0:20:48.400 --> 0:20:51.840 That, we got to keep doing that. I don't know 0:20:51.880 --> 0:20:53.520 what we want from these coaches. 0:20:53.880 --> 0:20:57.280 He could talk in more cliches, he could talk more, 0:20:57.760 --> 0:21:02.760 you know, around the issues, but I think Denver and 0:21:02.840 --> 0:21:06.720 their players are used to his directness. And I think 0:21:07.320 --> 0:21:11.040 if you have the right best players, the right best 0:21:11.040 --> 0:21:14.160 players want to be talked to in a straightforward manner. 0:21:14.280 --> 0:21:16.119 Well, if he was going to be honest and then 0:21:16.160 --> 0:21:18.840 he actually called out Michael Porter Junior, then I would 0:21:18.880 --> 0:21:21.280 have said, that's a coach who's being honest because Michael 0:21:21.320 --> 0:21:24.439 Porter played horribly in that game. You're kind of lumping 0:21:24.480 --> 0:21:28.080 everybody in that we didn't play. It's like we played 0:21:28.119 --> 0:21:32.240 one hundred percent seventy percent of the time and that's 0:21:32.280 --> 0:21:34.399 why we lost this game. And then you have Eric 0:21:34.440 --> 0:21:38.680 Spolstra where Ramona Shelburn is saying, Hey, you know I'm 0:21:38.720 --> 0:21:41.600 simplifying this, but are you trying to make a joker 0:21:41.640 --> 0:21:44.520 more of a scorer than a passer? And he basically 0:21:44.600 --> 0:21:48.840 said it's an untrained eye. Reggie Miller said the same 0:21:48.920 --> 0:21:51.880 thing what Ramona said. You know, you want to keep 0:21:51.960 --> 0:21:54.399 him from passing the ball, getting everybody involved in that? 0:21:54.760 --> 0:21:58.360 Was that a crazy question by Ramona to Eric spolsterra. 0:21:59.200 --> 0:22:03.760 No, And I think if you watch the game, it 0:22:03.800 --> 0:22:05.879