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Speaker 1: The Book of Joe podcast is a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 1: Hey Daron, Welcome back to the latest episode of the

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Speaker 1: Book of Joe Podcasts with Tom Berducci and my good

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Speaker 1: buddy Joe Madden. And Joe we got a special guest today,

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Speaker 1: and I mean special. We're talking about Evan Carter of

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Speaker 1: the World Series champion Texas Rangers. How does that sound, Evan?

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Speaker 2: That's awesome. This has been This has been a ton

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Speaker 2: of fun.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I got to start with this, Evan. What has

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Speaker 1: the last month or so been like for you, not

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Speaker 1: just playing in the postseason, but obviously winning the World

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Speaker 1: Series the parade. I mean, what a world win for you?

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Speaker 1: Just try to describe what the emotions have been like.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I feel a little bit spoiled just

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Speaker 3: the end of the season and then get to experience

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Speaker 3: something that people don't get to experience for their whole careers,

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Speaker 3: and it's been really cool to see have people on

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Speaker 3: also have the perspective of, Hey, I've played for ten

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Speaker 3: So it's really cool to get to experience that with

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's truer words have never been spoken. You know,

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Speaker 4: guys wait forever to get to that juncture. And it's

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Speaker 4: obviously I followed everything, and Tommy was with you there

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Speaker 4: on the ground and he spoke so glowingly of you

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Speaker 4: as a person also, But yeah, you handled yourself so

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Speaker 4: extremely well. I could just you're just dripping with poison

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Speaker 4: confidence right now as you're speaking to us and anything.

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Speaker 4: That's great and it's going to benefit as you move

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Speaker 4: forward to Again, congratulations on a wonderful first salvo into

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Speaker 4: the postseason, with many more to come. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just so people kind of get the thumbnail of

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Speaker 1: how impressive Evan played throughout the postseason. Yeah, you think

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Speaker 1: about it. Just a couple of months before October, Evan,

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Speaker 1: but my goodness, you get promoted to Triple A before

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Speaker 1: you know it, Adultice Garcio is on the IL and

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Speaker 1: you get the call up to the big leagues and

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Speaker 1: then before you know it, you're playing in the postseason.

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Speaker 1: Started out hitting ninth for Bruce Boci wound up hitting

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Speaker 1: third in World Series Game one. Only Mickey Mantle was younger.

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Speaker 1: And it comes to starting the three hole in Game

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Speaker 1: one of a World Series, just amazing. In a postseason

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Speaker 1: in which you twenty three games, you hit over three

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Speaker 1: Just a remarkable run for you. So I gotta ask you, Evan,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you weren't on the radar of a lot

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Speaker 1: of people when you're playing at Alpasso midway through the summer.

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Speaker 1: What is on your radar? What are you looking forward

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Speaker 1: to as far as playing out the year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, obviously, nobody wants to be a career

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Speaker 3: So that's the goal, and that's what you're always looking

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Speaker 3: So it was a ton of fun though it was

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's one of the things, like you that's what

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Speaker 4: I think that's spectacular. Just quickly though, L Passo. Did

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Speaker 4: the Dudley Dome. When I hear El Paso, L Paso

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Speaker 1: You don't have those kind of stories from El Paso.

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Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, Evan, I know you were on

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Speaker 1: I also heard you were running your laundry over to

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Speaker 4: That's awesome. Just buy a new shirt.

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Speaker 3: I guess we really did spend our whole fall kind

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Speaker 2: But I wouldn't trade it for anything.

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Speaker 1: That's amazing. Hey, I've talked to Joe about this. Your

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Speaker 2: So for me, it's just always been one of those things.

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Speaker 3: And if a picture makes you know, three really good pitches,

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Speaker 4: For that, I guess those type of things I was

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Speaker 4: something that you just figured out. I got to do this.

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Speaker 4: If I do this, I'm going to become more popular

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Speaker 4: because they do have a more finite strike zone. Because

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Speaker 3: But as far as like approach and stuff, that's just

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Speaker 4: I guess, well, you know, for me, that's that's something

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Speaker 1: Well, Joe, as long as we're talking about comps, you know,

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Speaker 4: Talking about the power Tommy too, and again I'm looking

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Speaker 1: Well, Evan was a guy I think for a lot

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Speaker 4: That's refreshing. I love hearing that, man, you did it.

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Speaker 4: I wish more would adopt that method right there. I

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Speaker 3: you know, take VP, hit, work out whatever. So I

436
00:20:13,518 --> 00:20:15,878
Speaker 3: ended up getting invited to that through the relationship that

437
00:20:15,918 --> 00:20:18,438
Speaker 3: I have built. So I went and did that, and

438
00:20:18,878 --> 00:20:20,718
Speaker 3: that's kind of the first time I got around, you know,

439
00:20:21,438 --> 00:20:23,478
Speaker 3: the scouting directors and a little bit more of the

440
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Speaker 3: front office people.

441
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Speaker 2: But then obviously we.

442
00:20:25,558 --> 00:20:28,198
Speaker 3: Got shut down for covid H, so that was kind

443
00:20:28,238 --> 00:20:30,518
Speaker 3: of you know, hey, I don't know what's gonna happen

444
00:20:30,518 --> 00:20:32,438
Speaker 3: after this, Like you know, you can't talk to anybody

445
00:20:32,518 --> 00:20:35,118
Speaker 3: in person anymore. Your relationships are just kind of cut off.

446
00:20:35,118 --> 00:20:37,478
Speaker 3: You don't get to you know. I played I don't

447
00:20:37,478 --> 00:20:39,838
Speaker 3: remember how many, either one or two high school games,

448
00:20:39,838 --> 00:20:41,598
Speaker 3: and it was just over, like you know, hey, we'll

449
00:20:41,638 --> 00:20:44,158
Speaker 3: be back in two weeks. And then next thing you know,

450
00:20:44,158 --> 00:20:47,358
Speaker 3: they're like, actually school years shut down. Everything's done, like

451
00:20:47,398 --> 00:20:49,758
Speaker 3: we're not coming back. It was a crazy time, but

452
00:20:50,838 --> 00:20:53,878
Speaker 3: the draft ended up eventually showing up, and we had

453
00:20:53,878 --> 00:20:57,878
Speaker 3: no idea what to expect, just because I mean, there's

454
00:20:58,238 --> 00:21:00,398
Speaker 3: like it was just so I don't know, we didn't

455
00:21:00,438 --> 00:21:03,678
Speaker 3: have any whole senior season was completely cut out, so

456
00:21:03,958 --> 00:21:05,918
Speaker 3: you know, we had talked to some people and kind

457
00:21:05,918 --> 00:21:08,998
Speaker 3: of had an idea, Hey, this might happen, but you know,

458
00:21:09,038 --> 00:21:11,038
Speaker 3: you can't you can't count on that until you know,

459
00:21:11,038 --> 00:21:13,558
Speaker 3: you get the phone call and then we end up. Well,

460
00:21:13,558 --> 00:21:15,398
Speaker 3: I was fortunate enough to get the phone call that

461
00:21:15,798 --> 00:21:18,358
Speaker 3: they were going to be picking me, so that was

462
00:21:18,438 --> 00:21:23,478
Speaker 3: kind of the dramatic. I guess mysterious circumstances that I

463
00:21:23,518 --> 00:21:24,398
Speaker 3: got to go through there.

464
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Speaker 1: It was a lot of fun though, Evan, did you

465
00:21:26,558 --> 00:21:32,318
Speaker 1: have colleges offering you scholarships? What was the decision like

466
00:21:32,358 --> 00:21:33,318
Speaker 1: to sign with Texas?

467
00:21:33,598 --> 00:21:35,958
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I actually I was committed to go to

468
00:21:36,038 --> 00:21:39,838
Speaker 3: Duke University. School was kind of first on my radar,

469
00:21:39,878 --> 00:21:42,198
Speaker 3: and that's what was important to me at the time.

470
00:21:42,398 --> 00:21:45,358
Speaker 3: I was kind of using baseball as a means to

471
00:21:45,758 --> 00:21:49,358
Speaker 3: get an education, so that was what was really important

472
00:21:49,398 --> 00:21:52,478
Speaker 3: to me. Pro Ball wasn't really on my mind until,

473
00:21:52,678 --> 00:21:55,278
Speaker 3: you know, until it was a possibility, you know, late

474
00:21:55,318 --> 00:21:57,878
Speaker 3: in my high school career. But they Duke was actually

475
00:21:57,878 --> 00:22:00,598
Speaker 3: the only school that offered me. They were the first

476
00:22:00,598 --> 00:22:02,638
Speaker 3: and only school to get offer me a scholarship. So

477
00:22:02,638 --> 00:22:04,758
Speaker 3: that's where I committed. That's where I had signed to

478
00:22:04,758 --> 00:22:08,638
Speaker 3: go play baseball. But I when the Rangers called and

479
00:22:09,238 --> 00:22:12,838
Speaker 3: we kind of discussed with them, school will always be there,

480
00:22:12,918 --> 00:22:15,438
Speaker 3: the opportunity to play pro ball will not always be there.

481
00:22:15,518 --> 00:22:17,678
Speaker 3: So that was kind of my mindset going forward as

482
00:22:17,718 --> 00:22:20,358
Speaker 3: if you know, pro ball ended up not working out,

483
00:22:20,798 --> 00:22:22,438
Speaker 3: I would be able to go back to school and

484
00:22:22,878 --> 00:22:24,878
Speaker 3: you know, have the opportunity.

485
00:22:24,278 --> 00:22:27,158
Speaker 4: To do that. Just quick question, do they cover school?

486
00:22:27,238 --> 00:22:28,958
Speaker 4: Is that part of the contract these days, because we

487
00:22:28,998 --> 00:22:32,198
Speaker 4: had a college scholarship plan when I was scouting, so

488
00:22:32,318 --> 00:22:34,438
Speaker 4: you could get to go to Duke or any school

489
00:22:34,918 --> 00:22:37,238
Speaker 4: if in fact you're done playing. How does that work?

490
00:22:37,438 --> 00:22:43,078
Speaker 3: So they they cover, however much, four years of tuition

491
00:22:43,198 --> 00:22:45,278
Speaker 3: at the school that you were that you would sign

492
00:22:45,358 --> 00:22:46,678
Speaker 3: your letter of intent to go to.

493
00:22:46,798 --> 00:22:47,918
Speaker 2: That's how much they cover.

494
00:22:47,918 --> 00:22:49,718
Speaker 4: For your college. Got it.

495
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Speaker 1: It's pretty amazing you think about it and how quickly

496
00:22:52,518 --> 00:22:56,078
Speaker 1: Evan you developed because I think in that first year

497
00:22:56,518 --> 00:22:58,638
Speaker 1: when you did play pro ball in twenty twenty one,

498
00:22:59,518 --> 00:23:02,598
Speaker 1: you had a back injury, struggled, you know, to get

499
00:23:02,638 --> 00:23:04,598
Speaker 1: on the field as much as you want. I'm sure

500
00:23:05,718 --> 00:23:07,838
Speaker 1: talk about the adjustment when you got into pro ball.

501
00:23:07,958 --> 00:23:10,198
Speaker 1: I know the batting average wasn't what you would love,

502
00:23:10,318 --> 00:23:12,718
Speaker 1: but the on base percentage was still high. What did

503
00:23:12,718 --> 00:23:16,878
Speaker 1: you find to be the biggest adjustment, especially after losing

504
00:23:16,918 --> 00:23:19,438
Speaker 1: your high school season in twenty to pro ball in

505
00:23:19,478 --> 00:23:19,998
Speaker 1: twenty one.

506
00:23:20,558 --> 00:23:24,118
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the biggest adjustment for me was just

507
00:23:24,238 --> 00:23:26,518
Speaker 3: I had never played that much baseball before. I mean,

508
00:23:26,558 --> 00:23:28,558
Speaker 3: you know, you play a couple games a week in

509
00:23:28,638 --> 00:23:31,078
Speaker 3: high school, but it's you know, seven innings of baseball.

510
00:23:31,118 --> 00:23:33,238
Speaker 2: It's not nine innings. You know, those extra two innings

511
00:23:33,238 --> 00:23:34,278
Speaker 2: are a big deal.

512
00:23:34,318 --> 00:23:37,278
Speaker 3: And then all of a sudden you're playing every single day.

513
00:23:37,198 --> 00:23:37,638
Speaker 2: Of the week.

514
00:23:37,958 --> 00:23:40,878
Speaker 3: It was just you know, obviously you're away from home,

515
00:23:40,918 --> 00:23:43,438
Speaker 3: but I would just I would say that playing that

516
00:23:43,558 --> 00:23:46,358
Speaker 3: much baseball was the biggest adjustment for me. And then

517
00:23:46,718 --> 00:23:48,718
Speaker 3: not only are you playing that much baseball, but it's

518
00:23:48,718 --> 00:23:51,678
Speaker 3: also against the best competition for your age that you

519
00:23:51,758 --> 00:23:56,118
Speaker 3: can find anywhere. So it's mentally and physically just a

520
00:23:56,158 --> 00:23:57,838
Speaker 3: lot more taxing than anything that I had.

521
00:23:57,798 --> 00:23:58,878
Speaker 2: Ever experienced before.

522
00:23:58,878 --> 00:24:01,158
Speaker 3: And I didn't necessarily know how to deal with that

523
00:24:01,278 --> 00:24:03,398
Speaker 3: at the time, But that's what the minor leagues are for,

524
00:24:03,478 --> 00:24:05,438
Speaker 3: you knowigure out how to deal with that and how

525
00:24:05,478 --> 00:24:08,638
Speaker 3: to manage yourself physically and mentally, and how to be

526
00:24:08,638 --> 00:24:11,078
Speaker 3: able to show up every single day and compete to

527
00:24:11,078 --> 00:24:13,158
Speaker 3: the best of your ability. And that's you know, that

528
00:24:13,278 --> 00:24:15,278
Speaker 3: was my first experience with learning how to do that.

529
00:24:15,438 --> 00:24:19,318
Speaker 3: And then you know, got to take my experiences from that,

530
00:24:19,358 --> 00:24:21,238
Speaker 3: even though they were shortened, and learned from it and

531
00:24:21,678 --> 00:24:23,278
Speaker 3: make a plan and figure out how it was going

532
00:24:23,318 --> 00:24:25,198
Speaker 3: to be better at that and you know, kind of

533
00:24:25,198 --> 00:24:26,398
Speaker 3: apply that going forward.

534
00:24:27,078 --> 00:24:29,678
Speaker 1: And Evan, I'm sure there was another adjustment to major

535
00:24:29,718 --> 00:24:32,678
Speaker 1: League Baseball. Were there certain guys in the team that

536
00:24:32,758 --> 00:24:34,798
Speaker 1: were I'm sure everybody in that clubhouse and it is

537
00:24:34,998 --> 00:24:38,478
Speaker 1: a fantastic clubhouse, that group of guys. There anybody that

538
00:24:38,518 --> 00:24:41,918
Speaker 1: you especially connected with in terms of just telling you

539
00:24:41,958 --> 00:24:43,638
Speaker 1: what major League baseball is.

540
00:24:43,638 --> 00:24:46,198
Speaker 3: About as far as on the on the big league team.

541
00:24:46,358 --> 00:24:48,638
Speaker 1: Yeah, on the big league team, because I know, you know,

542
00:24:48,998 --> 00:24:51,398
Speaker 1: it's it's a little bit different than minor leagues and

543
00:24:51,398 --> 00:24:54,398
Speaker 1: in terms of just your work day and preparation and

544
00:24:54,438 --> 00:24:55,518
Speaker 1: information and all that.

545
00:24:56,198 --> 00:24:57,318
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I think that.

546
00:24:58,478 --> 00:25:01,518
Speaker 3: I think what makes or what made our team special

547
00:25:01,878 --> 00:25:05,478
Speaker 3: this year was just the lot of people that whenever

548
00:25:05,518 --> 00:25:07,758
Speaker 3: I did first get there, it wasn't just one guy

549
00:25:07,838 --> 00:25:09,598
Speaker 3: that kind of like took me under his wing and

550
00:25:09,718 --> 00:25:11,478
Speaker 3: was like, hey, this is what it's all about. Like,

551
00:25:11,558 --> 00:25:13,438
Speaker 3: it was the whole team.

552
00:25:13,478 --> 00:25:13,678
Speaker 4: You know.

553
00:25:13,718 --> 00:25:15,278
Speaker 3: There was a bunch of guys on there that took

554
00:25:15,358 --> 00:25:17,598
Speaker 3: me under that were like, hey, this is this is

555
00:25:17,598 --> 00:25:18,278
Speaker 3: what it's all about.

556
00:25:18,318 --> 00:25:20,278
Speaker 2: Everybody had their own unique perspective.

557
00:25:20,478 --> 00:25:22,638
Speaker 3: You know, You've got people that are you got the

558
00:25:22,678 --> 00:25:25,078
Speaker 3: Max Scherzers who are eighteen years older than me, and

559
00:25:25,078 --> 00:25:26,758
Speaker 3: then you've got people that are kind of similar to

560
00:25:26,798 --> 00:25:29,438
Speaker 3: my age that this is their first year too. So

561
00:25:29,518 --> 00:25:32,198
Speaker 3: it was it was a really really cool experience that

562
00:25:32,238 --> 00:25:35,518
Speaker 3: I got to learn from, just with so many different perspectives,

563
00:25:35,558 --> 00:25:39,638
Speaker 3: and you know, nobody was there wasn't a bad personality

564
00:25:39,638 --> 00:25:41,038
Speaker 3: on the team. You know, I felt like I could

565
00:25:41,038 --> 00:25:42,558
Speaker 3: talk to anybody and they talked to me.

566
00:25:42,718 --> 00:25:43,918
Speaker 2: So But if I had to.

567
00:25:43,878 --> 00:25:46,078
Speaker 3: Name one person, I think Brad Miller would definitely be

568
00:25:46,158 --> 00:25:48,798
Speaker 3: the person that I would throw out there. That was

569
00:25:49,198 --> 00:25:51,718
Speaker 3: that was definitely above and beyond as far as showed

570
00:25:51,758 --> 00:25:52,358
Speaker 3: me the ropes.

571
00:25:53,118 --> 00:25:54,798
Speaker 1: And I should have asked you this. But when you

572
00:25:54,918 --> 00:25:57,278
Speaker 1: did come up to the big leagues, your first game

573
00:25:58,038 --> 00:26:01,918
Speaker 1: single and you're first at bat, I think you also

574
00:26:01,998 --> 00:26:06,118
Speaker 1: had a stolen base just from the outfield. Walk me

575
00:26:06,158 --> 00:26:08,918
Speaker 1: through that first game and what you felt just being

576
00:26:08,918 --> 00:26:11,518
Speaker 1: there putting the uniform on, and then what it was

577
00:26:11,638 --> 00:26:13,838
Speaker 1: like for that first at bad first hit.

578
00:26:14,438 --> 00:26:18,198
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I gosh, I think I was more

579
00:26:18,278 --> 00:26:21,998
Speaker 3: nervous for my debut game than I was Game one

580
00:26:21,998 --> 00:26:24,518
Speaker 3: of the World Series. It's all the emotions at once,

581
00:26:24,558 --> 00:26:26,598
Speaker 3: you know, it's so much It's so much fun. I mean,

582
00:26:26,598 --> 00:26:28,638
Speaker 3: you get to go out there and this is what

583
00:26:28,718 --> 00:26:31,718
Speaker 3: you've dreamed of and worked for your entire life. You know,

584
00:26:31,798 --> 00:26:33,798
Speaker 3: it's just this is it's kind of all built up

585
00:26:33,798 --> 00:26:36,958
Speaker 3: to that one moment, and uh, you know, whether it

586
00:26:36,998 --> 00:26:39,518
Speaker 3: goes good or it goes bad, you want to remember

587
00:26:39,558 --> 00:26:41,478
Speaker 3: it that you had fun and that you went out

588
00:26:41,518 --> 00:26:43,798
Speaker 3: there and you just, you know, soak it in. And

589
00:26:44,318 --> 00:26:45,838
Speaker 3: you know, I don't want to. I don't want to

590
00:26:45,838 --> 00:26:48,438
Speaker 3: remember it as a negative moment by any means. So

591
00:26:48,478 --> 00:26:50,918
Speaker 3: it was you never gonna go out there and try

592
00:26:50,958 --> 00:26:53,038
Speaker 3: and help the team win. But you know, selfishly, you

593
00:26:53,078 --> 00:26:55,558
Speaker 3: want to soak it all in and just enjoy that

594
00:26:55,598 --> 00:26:56,278
Speaker 3: moment for sure.

595
00:26:57,038 --> 00:27:00,278
Speaker 4: I just want to I'm listening to you, man, I'm

596
00:27:00,278 --> 00:27:03,798
Speaker 4: listening to you intently, and my my thought is that

597
00:27:04,078 --> 00:27:07,398
Speaker 4: when this when we're done with this podcast today, we

598
00:27:07,478 --> 00:27:09,878
Speaker 4: should send you a copy so that the Rangers can

599
00:27:09,958 --> 00:27:13,078
Speaker 4: play this back for all their minor league players and

600
00:27:13,118 --> 00:27:15,678
Speaker 4: how to do this thing properly. Listen. I don't know you.

601
00:27:15,678 --> 00:27:17,918
Speaker 4: I'm just meeting you for the very first time, but

602
00:27:18,038 --> 00:27:23,158
Speaker 4: I can't tell you how exactly everything you're talking about.

603
00:27:23,158 --> 00:27:26,318
Speaker 4: I would agree with how you've done it, your full

604
00:27:26,398 --> 00:27:30,198
Speaker 4: personal philosophy, your work ethic, how you approach that day,

605
00:27:30,238 --> 00:27:34,438
Speaker 4: the fact that you wanted to enjoy this really special moment. Yeah,

606
00:27:34,438 --> 00:27:36,598
Speaker 4: you've got to be nervous as heck, your first major

607
00:27:36,678 --> 00:27:38,638
Speaker 4: league moment at bat. But then you come to the

608
00:27:38,678 --> 00:27:41,958
Speaker 4: World Series and you treated it almost like a regular game,

609
00:27:41,998 --> 00:27:45,398
Speaker 4: which is why you were so successful. But yeah, man,

610
00:27:46,078 --> 00:27:50,078
Speaker 4: just might be jumping the gun, but just stay on

611
00:27:50,118 --> 00:27:53,158
Speaker 4: the path that you're on. This is really interesting for

612
00:27:53,238 --> 00:27:55,878
Speaker 4: me to listen to, and I think this is something

613
00:27:55,878 --> 00:27:59,078
Speaker 4: that a lot more young players, not only professionally, but

614
00:27:59,158 --> 00:28:01,118
Speaker 4: guys coming up through the amateur rights trying to become

615
00:28:01,158 --> 00:28:04,238
Speaker 4: a professional. What you're describing and how you're describing to

616
00:28:04,278 --> 00:28:06,558
Speaker 4: me right on the money, Thank you.

617
00:28:06,558 --> 00:28:07,358
Speaker 2: I appreciate that.

618
00:28:07,718 --> 00:28:09,878
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you think about what Evan did in

619
00:28:09,918 --> 00:28:14,278
Speaker 1: the postseason especially. First of all, the regular season was fantastic.

620
00:28:14,318 --> 00:28:16,798
Speaker 1: In twenty three games, the number is very similar to

621
00:28:16,838 --> 00:28:19,398
Speaker 1: the first twenty three games of Juan Soto. It's that

622
00:28:19,518 --> 00:28:22,598
Speaker 1: kind of combination of power and walks on base percentage.

623
00:28:23,318 --> 00:28:26,038
Speaker 1: But in the postseason, you know, at the age of

624
00:28:26,038 --> 00:28:29,878
Speaker 1: twenty one, with thirty total bases, there's only been two

625
00:28:29,958 --> 00:28:32,998
Speaker 1: other players who have done that that young in the postseason,

626
00:28:33,198 --> 00:28:37,958
Speaker 1: Jan Soto being one of those. In twenty nineteen and

627
00:28:38,158 --> 00:28:41,558
Speaker 1: Miguel Cabrera going back to two thousand and three. I mean,

628
00:28:41,558 --> 00:28:45,518
Speaker 1: a pretty darn good company. So you've got to ring Evan.

629
00:28:47,198 --> 00:28:51,158
Speaker 1: You've got this World Series experience, You've got your foothold

630
00:28:51,278 --> 00:28:53,638
Speaker 1: established in the big leagues. I got to ask you,

631
00:28:54,758 --> 00:28:57,638
Speaker 1: what's your off season going to be like? Because I

632
00:28:57,718 --> 00:29:00,598
Speaker 1: know you're a guy that's always striving to be better,

633
00:29:00,718 --> 00:29:04,798
Speaker 1: certainly not satisfied with where you're at right now moving forward.

634
00:29:04,878 --> 00:29:07,518
Speaker 1: So give me an idea of what your off season

635
00:29:07,638 --> 00:29:09,718
Speaker 1: is going to be like, what you want to accomplish,

636
00:29:09,798 --> 00:29:12,078
Speaker 1: what your training's like, what's ahead for Evan Carter.

637
00:29:12,478 --> 00:29:14,918
Speaker 3: I think as far as the off season goes, obviously

638
00:29:14,958 --> 00:29:17,598
Speaker 3: it got cut short by quite a bit with the postseason,

639
00:29:17,678 --> 00:29:21,118
Speaker 3: but that's that's a really really good problem to have.

640
00:29:21,278 --> 00:29:24,958
Speaker 3: But it's right now, I'm just kind of taking it,

641
00:29:25,078 --> 00:29:26,918
Speaker 3: taking it easy. I'm taking a break for a couple

642
00:29:26,958 --> 00:29:30,518
Speaker 3: of weeks. I'll start getting back in the weight room,

643
00:29:31,118 --> 00:29:33,918
Speaker 3: just moving the body around and trying to eat a

644
00:29:33,918 --> 00:29:36,118
Speaker 3: whole lot and gain the weight back that I've lost

645
00:29:36,118 --> 00:29:39,278
Speaker 3: from this season. Just trying to get back in a

646
00:29:39,278 --> 00:29:41,678
Speaker 3: little bit heavier like I was to start the season

647
00:29:41,758 --> 00:29:44,998
Speaker 3: last year and then probably middle of December, I'll start

648
00:29:44,998 --> 00:29:45,878
Speaker 3: swinging the bat again.

649
00:29:46,798 --> 00:29:48,598
Speaker 2: I don't have any huge.

650
00:29:48,278 --> 00:29:50,758
Speaker 3: Mechanical changes that I want to work on or change

651
00:29:50,758 --> 00:29:52,958
Speaker 3: this offseason. I just kind of want to get in

652
00:29:52,998 --> 00:29:56,478
Speaker 3: there work on some certain pitch shapes attacking those. I

653
00:29:56,518 --> 00:29:59,318
Speaker 3: definitely want to work on, you know, left handed shapes

654
00:29:59,398 --> 00:30:02,078
Speaker 3: and things like that, and just I really really want

655
00:30:02,078 --> 00:30:04,518
Speaker 3: to get more consistent with what I've already got. I

656
00:30:04,598 --> 00:30:06,158
Speaker 3: just kind of, I know, that was one of the

657
00:30:06,158 --> 00:30:08,998
Speaker 3: biggest things for me, was not necessarily changing anything, but

658
00:30:09,158 --> 00:30:11,358
Speaker 3: just hey, with what I have, how can I be

659
00:30:12,078 --> 00:30:14,878
Speaker 3: way more consistent with my load and my you know,

660
00:30:15,518 --> 00:30:18,638
Speaker 3: kind of how I approach my bat. So that's that's

661
00:30:18,838 --> 00:30:20,358
Speaker 3: some of the things that I want to work on.

662
00:30:21,518 --> 00:30:24,878
Speaker 3: I'm very loose when it comes to the off season.

663
00:30:24,918 --> 00:30:26,798
Speaker 3: I don't I'm not somebody that's going to be like,

664
00:30:26,838 --> 00:30:29,918
Speaker 3: I've got to do this, this and this to get everything,

665
00:30:30,118 --> 00:30:31,558
Speaker 3: you know, the way I want it to do. It

666
00:30:31,638 --> 00:30:34,198
Speaker 3: just kind of kind of always is going to work

667
00:30:34,198 --> 00:30:35,798
Speaker 3: out the way that it's supposed to is the way

668
00:30:35,838 --> 00:30:36,398
Speaker 3: I approach it.

669
00:30:36,678 --> 00:30:39,438
Speaker 1: That's interesting. You mentioned your weight, Evan, because you're listed

670
00:30:39,478 --> 00:30:43,518
Speaker 1: at one ninety. What's your preferred weight? And how much

671
00:30:43,558 --> 00:30:45,358
Speaker 1: weight did you lose by the time you got to

672
00:30:45,398 --> 00:30:46,918
Speaker 1: the World Series? How much did you weigh?

673
00:30:47,158 --> 00:30:50,078
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I gosh one ninety. I wish I weighed

674
00:30:50,078 --> 00:30:54,518
Speaker 3: one ninety still right now, honestly, I probably weigh about

675
00:30:54,518 --> 00:30:55,598
Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty pounds.

676
00:30:56,758 --> 00:31:00,238
Speaker 2: And for me, the weight has been one of those.

677
00:31:00,078 --> 00:31:05,278
Speaker 3: Tricky things that it's like everybody around me and outside

678
00:31:05,318 --> 00:31:08,158
Speaker 3: of the organization says, oh, I can't wait for you

679
00:31:08,238 --> 00:31:10,118
Speaker 3: to gain weight so you can get stronger and hit

680
00:31:10,158 --> 00:31:14,998
Speaker 3: the ball harder. For me, I don't necessarily think weight

681
00:31:15,798 --> 00:31:19,918
Speaker 3: has as obviously it would make me. You know, I

682
00:31:19,918 --> 00:31:21,478
Speaker 3: would like to weigh more, But at the end of

683
00:31:21,518 --> 00:31:23,318
Speaker 3: the day, if I don't, I just need to rotate

684
00:31:23,398 --> 00:31:25,718
Speaker 3: faster to hit the ball harder, so I can get

685
00:31:25,758 --> 00:31:29,038
Speaker 3: stronger without, you know, weighing two hundred and twenty pounds.

686
00:31:30,438 --> 00:31:33,358
Speaker 3: But for me, I think weight gain is going to

687
00:31:33,398 --> 00:31:35,958
Speaker 3: help me feel better throughout thought and the entirety of

688
00:31:35,958 --> 00:31:38,198
Speaker 3: the season. Obviously, I don't want to weigh one hundred

689
00:31:38,198 --> 00:31:40,838
Speaker 3: and seventy five pounds because one hundred and you know,

690
00:31:40,878 --> 00:31:43,358
Speaker 3: sixty games throughout an entire season is going to weigh

691
00:31:44,318 --> 00:31:46,438
Speaker 3: even more on you than it would be if I

692
00:31:46,438 --> 00:31:49,958
Speaker 3: had a little bit of a cushion, I guess so, yeah,

693
00:31:49,998 --> 00:31:51,678
Speaker 3: that's kind of the big thing for me, is just

694
00:31:51,718 --> 00:31:53,638
Speaker 3: to have a little bit of wiggle room and cushion

695
00:31:53,718 --> 00:31:56,198
Speaker 3: to help the body feel better at the end of

696
00:31:56,238 --> 00:31:56,558
Speaker 3: the year.

697
00:31:57,038 --> 00:31:58,918
Speaker 4: I think I know the answer to this already, but

698
00:31:59,118 --> 00:32:01,598
Speaker 4: just curiously, I'm just based on everything you've been talking about,

699
00:32:02,118 --> 00:32:04,758
Speaker 4: will you at some point this winter already have you

700
00:32:04,798 --> 00:32:07,278
Speaker 4: already done it, like sit down and try to establish

701
00:32:07,318 --> 00:32:10,238
Speaker 4: some specific goals for yourself for next season or is

702
00:32:10,238 --> 00:32:13,558
Speaker 4: that another thing that you just like to almost organically

703
00:32:14,358 --> 00:32:15,118
Speaker 4: permit to happen.

704
00:32:15,438 --> 00:32:17,158
Speaker 2: I don't necessarily like to.

705
00:32:18,838 --> 00:32:20,878
Speaker 3: Set a certain goal of like, all right, this is

706
00:32:20,918 --> 00:32:24,478
Speaker 3: what I want to happen, because if that doesn't happen.

707
00:32:24,478 --> 00:32:28,438
Speaker 3: I mean, baseball is such a hard sport. It's hard

708
00:32:28,478 --> 00:32:30,758
Speaker 3: to set goals and be like, well, if I don't

709
00:32:30,758 --> 00:32:33,718
Speaker 3: reach that goal, then what. So for me, it's just

710
00:32:33,758 --> 00:32:36,358
Speaker 3: something that's like, all right, I want to put an

711
00:32:36,358 --> 00:32:41,878
Speaker 3: emphasis on this to be better at this, and whatever

712
00:32:41,958 --> 00:32:43,798
Speaker 3: happens from that is going to happen, you know. If

713
00:32:44,358 --> 00:32:46,158
Speaker 3: it's for me, all right, I want to be better

714
00:32:46,158 --> 00:32:48,198
Speaker 3: at hitting left handed pitching. Okay, I'm not going to

715
00:32:48,238 --> 00:32:50,478
Speaker 3: set a goal for what that's going to look like,

716
00:32:50,598 --> 00:32:53,318
Speaker 3: but I know that I'm going to put the effort

717
00:32:53,438 --> 00:32:56,038
Speaker 3: forward to be better at that. So that's just that's

718
00:32:56,118 --> 00:32:58,158
Speaker 3: kind of how I organize myself for things.

719
00:32:58,718 --> 00:33:00,518
Speaker 1: Joe, I think you can see why this guy is

720
00:33:00,558 --> 00:33:03,558
Speaker 1: so impressive. I mean, if you just didn't look at

721
00:33:03,558 --> 00:33:05,998
Speaker 1: the back his baseball card, you'd think he'd have five

722
00:33:06,118 --> 00:33:08,958
Speaker 1: six years already into the big leagues. Just a mature

723
00:33:09,038 --> 00:33:11,678
Speaker 1: approach at the plate, and obviously off the field as well.

724
00:33:13,038 --> 00:33:15,798
Speaker 1: I know obviously your family too, Evan is a big

725
00:33:15,838 --> 00:33:19,678
Speaker 1: part of your success, and your wife traveling around I'm

726
00:33:19,678 --> 00:33:23,318
Speaker 1: sure throughout this last couple of months. So how important

727
00:33:23,318 --> 00:33:24,358
Speaker 1: has family been for you?

728
00:33:24,798 --> 00:33:24,998
Speaker 4: Yeah?

729
00:33:25,038 --> 00:33:27,798
Speaker 3: I mean, gosh, I wouldn't be at the physician i'm

730
00:33:27,798 --> 00:33:29,758
Speaker 3: at without the support of my wife. I mean, how

731
00:33:29,838 --> 00:33:31,798
Speaker 3: much she did for me, making my life so much

732
00:33:31,838 --> 00:33:35,038
Speaker 3: easier on the road and at home either one. I mean,

733
00:33:35,078 --> 00:33:38,838
Speaker 3: it's so vital for me to have something to come

734
00:33:38,878 --> 00:33:40,358
Speaker 3: home too at the end of the day and just

735
00:33:40,398 --> 00:33:44,198
Speaker 3: get my mind off of baseball, and for her to

736
00:33:44,198 --> 00:33:47,278
Speaker 3: be able to provide that for me, it was invaluable.

737
00:33:47,758 --> 00:33:52,078
Speaker 1: That's so impressive. So happy to hear all about your success. Evan,

738
00:33:52,158 --> 00:33:54,878
Speaker 1: your story is really amazing. I think it proves that,

739
00:33:55,518 --> 00:33:57,878
Speaker 1: like Joe said, if you've got the talent, baseball will

740
00:33:57,878 --> 00:34:01,678
Speaker 1: find you. And I'm sure there's better things even ahead

741
00:34:01,718 --> 00:34:04,238
Speaker 1: for you after what's been just an amazing year. I'm

742
00:34:04,238 --> 00:34:06,358
Speaker 1: sure you're able to soak it up or hopefully you

743
00:34:06,398 --> 00:34:10,158
Speaker 1: are now looking back on it. Just an amazing year

744
00:34:10,198 --> 00:34:13,758
Speaker 1: and we really look forward to even better things in

745
00:34:13,798 --> 00:34:16,078
Speaker 1: the future for you. So thanks so much for joining us.

746
00:34:16,198 --> 00:34:17,238
Speaker 1: Really love this chat.

747
00:34:17,958 --> 00:34:19,918
Speaker 3: Thank you, I appreciate you all this This is a

748
00:34:19,918 --> 00:34:20,438
Speaker 3: ton of fun.

749
00:34:20,638 --> 00:34:25,358
Speaker 4: Yeah, just again, really, congratulations on your season, Happy holidays,

750
00:34:25,438 --> 00:34:29,238
Speaker 4: enjoy Europe. I love your perspective. Man, just stay right there.

751
00:34:29,398 --> 00:34:31,318
Speaker 4: It's going to serve you well for many years to come.

752
00:34:31,678 --> 00:34:31,998
Speaker 4: Thank you.

753
00:34:32,078 --> 00:34:32,678
Speaker 2: It means a lot.

754
00:34:32,998 --> 00:34:46,558
Speaker 1: We'll have some closing thoughts right after this. Well, Joe,

755
00:34:46,598 --> 00:34:50,278
Speaker 1: hopefully you and I and anybody listening to this podcast

756
00:34:50,438 --> 00:34:54,198
Speaker 1: understands even more about why Evan Carter is so special.

757
00:34:54,438 --> 00:34:56,678
Speaker 1: I mean, it was just watching him play in the

758
00:34:56,718 --> 00:34:59,558
Speaker 1: postseason you had to keep reminding yourself this kid's only

759
00:34:59,558 --> 00:35:03,598
Speaker 1: twenty one years old. But now to listen to him

760
00:35:04,278 --> 00:35:07,198
Speaker 1: and to think about his process and his story of

761
00:35:07,238 --> 00:35:09,998
Speaker 1: how he got there in the first place. I'm even

762
00:35:10,038 --> 00:35:12,438
Speaker 1: more blown away, and I'm reminded there was an old

763
00:35:12,478 --> 00:35:17,438
Speaker 1: scout you probably knew him, Joe Buddy Kerr, and he

764
00:35:17,598 --> 00:35:21,118
Speaker 1: talked about John Oliroud and a very young point in

765
00:35:21,198 --> 00:35:24,598
Speaker 1: John's career where he called him a repeater, and what

766
00:35:24,638 --> 00:35:28,518
Speaker 1: he meant by that was Oliroud had such a balanced approach,

767
00:35:28,598 --> 00:35:31,318
Speaker 1: such a sweet swing at the plate, and such kind

768
00:35:31,358 --> 00:35:34,798
Speaker 1: of an easy going disposition that there weren't going to

769
00:35:34,878 --> 00:35:39,318
Speaker 1: be ups and downs to his career. And listening to Evan,

770
00:35:39,438 --> 00:35:42,798
Speaker 1: that's who I thought about, was John Olerud, and Evan Carter,

771
00:35:42,878 --> 00:35:45,278
Speaker 1: to me, looks like a repeater. He's a guy if

772
00:35:45,318 --> 00:35:49,078
Speaker 1: you're the Texas Rangers, you do not worry about You

773
00:35:49,158 --> 00:35:52,478
Speaker 1: don't worry about success going to his head. You don't

774
00:35:52,518 --> 00:35:55,278
Speaker 1: worry about him whether he's going to hit for power.

775
00:35:55,958 --> 00:35:58,478
Speaker 1: You don't worry about him being ready to play on

776
00:35:58,558 --> 00:36:02,358
Speaker 1: a night in, night out. Basis that I know you

777
00:36:02,438 --> 00:36:05,718
Speaker 1: know this, Joe, That is a manager's dream. And again

778
00:36:05,918 --> 00:36:08,238
Speaker 1: at twenty one years old, amazing.

779
00:36:08,038 --> 00:36:11,158
Speaker 4: What a great description. The repeater makes all the sense

780
00:36:11,198 --> 00:36:13,318
Speaker 4: in the world. We were just talking a little bit

781
00:36:13,358 --> 00:36:15,638
Speaker 4: before we got back on but I you know you

782
00:36:15,718 --> 00:36:18,158
Speaker 4: oftentimes compare you. I meet this twenty one year old

783
00:36:18,198 --> 00:36:21,398
Speaker 4: today for the very first time, World Series kind of hero,

784
00:36:23,438 --> 00:36:26,358
Speaker 4: came up meteoric rise to get to the big leagues,

785
00:36:26,358 --> 00:36:29,318
Speaker 4: and I think to myself, Man, I just the conversation

786
00:36:29,438 --> 00:36:31,038
Speaker 4: he just had with us that wasn't even in my

787
00:36:31,638 --> 00:36:34,118
Speaker 4: near my playbook at that particular juncture in my life.

788
00:36:34,158 --> 00:36:38,958
Speaker 4: It's so impressive to just hear him put a sentence together, explain,

789
00:36:39,038 --> 00:36:42,398
Speaker 4: like you said, his process, what's in store, how he's

790
00:36:42,398 --> 00:36:45,678
Speaker 4: going to go about his business, what it means regarding

791
00:36:45,678 --> 00:36:48,998
Speaker 4: his family and what his wife had done. Everything. Everything

792
00:36:49,038 --> 00:36:52,398
Speaker 4: he talked about right down to was plate discipline, and

793
00:36:52,798 --> 00:36:56,118
Speaker 4: he describes that as like as a pitcher, I recognized

794
00:36:56,358 --> 00:36:58,518
Speaker 4: that it's important to have. So I will out there

795
00:36:58,518 --> 00:37:01,278
Speaker 4: and I create plate discipline for myself as a hitter.

796
00:37:02,278 --> 00:37:05,518
Speaker 4: The Rangers have something special here, man, There's no question

797
00:37:05,598 --> 00:37:08,078
Speaker 4: they know that. But I think we mentioned it in

798
00:37:08,118 --> 00:37:11,998
Speaker 4: the podcast. I would have this guy talk to my

799
00:37:12,038 --> 00:37:14,518
Speaker 4: minor league players at some point. Maybe you don't want

800
00:37:14,558 --> 00:37:16,478
Speaker 4: to put too much on him too soon. Going back

801
00:37:16,478 --> 00:37:20,838
Speaker 4: to camp this year, however, I think he can handle

802
00:37:20,838 --> 00:37:24,118
Speaker 4: almost anything when it comes to being out front being

803
00:37:24,118 --> 00:37:25,638
Speaker 4: an elite singer or whatever he is. He does it

804
00:37:25,678 --> 00:37:30,918
Speaker 4: in a very poison balanced way. But that is the

805
00:37:31,038 --> 00:37:35,398
Speaker 4: Rangers having him at such a young age. They got

806
00:37:35,438 --> 00:37:38,318
Speaker 4: to feel wonderful about all of this moving forward. Like

807
00:37:38,358 --> 00:37:40,718
Speaker 4: he said, he's not going to change if anything's just

808
00:37:40,798 --> 00:37:44,118
Speaker 4: going to get better. He's not going to fall backward

809
00:37:44,918 --> 00:37:47,798
Speaker 4: as a person. I don't think ever, So there's a

810
00:37:47,798 --> 00:37:50,878
Speaker 4: lot to bet on right there. And I was over

811
00:37:50,918 --> 00:37:51,758
Speaker 4: the top impressed.

812
00:37:51,958 --> 00:37:54,758
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was even impressed when he talked about his

813
00:37:54,838 --> 00:37:58,398
Speaker 1: weight Joe, because I think there is, you know, almost

814
00:37:58,518 --> 00:38:01,598
Speaker 1: a type of peer pressure in the game to continue

815
00:38:01,638 --> 00:38:04,518
Speaker 1: to get big. And I think most fans be amazed

816
00:38:04,518 --> 00:38:06,638
Speaker 1: if they see these players up close, how big they

817
00:38:06,678 --> 00:38:10,798
Speaker 1: actually are. But sort of like the guy he mentioned,

818
00:38:10,838 --> 00:38:14,118
Speaker 1: Christian Yelich, I think he's got a great baseball body

819
00:38:14,118 --> 00:38:17,198
Speaker 1: that does not need to get bigger. Now. One to

820
00:38:17,278 --> 00:38:20,158
Speaker 1: seventy five is probably too thin, right, just to hold

821
00:38:20,238 --> 00:38:22,598
Speaker 1: up to the riggers of a season. But he should

822
00:38:22,638 --> 00:38:26,478
Speaker 1: not feel like he needs to add muscles just for

823
00:38:26,518 --> 00:38:29,838
Speaker 1: the sake of being bigger. I think that's not his game. Listen,

824
00:38:29,878 --> 00:38:32,118
Speaker 1: you're talking about a guy last year in twenty three games.

825
00:38:32,158 --> 00:38:35,198
Speaker 1: I know It's a small sample, but he slugged six

826
00:38:35,398 --> 00:38:40,238
Speaker 1: forty five. I've seen him absolutely destroy pitches. I mean,

827
00:38:40,278 --> 00:38:44,998
Speaker 1: this guy on fastballs is just light out. I mentioned

828
00:38:45,038 --> 00:38:47,038
Speaker 1: he does have to work on hitting against left handed

829
00:38:47,078 --> 00:38:49,558
Speaker 1: pitching just because he hasn't seen much of it yet.

830
00:38:50,158 --> 00:38:52,998
Speaker 1: But I don't want to see him get bigger. To

831
00:38:53,038 --> 00:38:55,718
Speaker 1: be honest with you, I think where he's at right now,

832
00:38:56,438 --> 00:39:00,318
Speaker 1: it's a great baseball body. He's extremely fast. I mentioned

833
00:39:00,318 --> 00:39:03,478
Speaker 1: Don Mattingly. Just think if Don Mattingly had plus wheels,

834
00:39:03,918 --> 00:39:08,078
Speaker 1: that's having carter to me. So even that was a

835
00:39:08,158 --> 00:39:10,998
Speaker 1: mature approach or or at least a perspective that he

836
00:39:11,078 --> 00:39:12,358
Speaker 1: gave us in terms of his weight.

837
00:39:12,638 --> 00:39:14,718
Speaker 4: Here's what my I mean For me, my scouting background

838
00:39:14,718 --> 00:39:17,318
Speaker 4: helps because I did scout. I did Scott in nineteen

839
00:39:17,358 --> 00:39:19,718
Speaker 4: eighty one, and then I would go ahead and manage

840
00:39:19,798 --> 00:39:23,998
Speaker 4: rookie ball. Then I eventually went ahead and managed a ball, etc.

841
00:39:24,278 --> 00:39:26,278
Speaker 4: But you see these guys that come in at eighteen,

842
00:39:26,398 --> 00:39:32,118
Speaker 4: nineteen twenty years of age, great athletes, really thin, lacked

843
00:39:32,878 --> 00:39:35,758
Speaker 4: strength or muscle, whatever you want to call it. But

844
00:39:35,958 --> 00:39:38,958
Speaker 4: over just the next couple of years, and I'm not

845
00:39:38,998 --> 00:39:40,558
Speaker 4: talking about eating a lot, we didn't have the weight

846
00:39:40,598 --> 00:39:44,478
Speaker 4: training program or the methods at our disposal then as

847
00:39:44,478 --> 00:39:48,478
Speaker 4: we do now, and eventually they became bigger, stronger dudes

848
00:39:48,518 --> 00:39:50,918
Speaker 4: without a whole lot of effort. I just it's a

849
00:39:50,998 --> 00:39:54,398
Speaker 4: natural progression. And the way he described that, I get

850
00:39:54,398 --> 00:39:57,438
Speaker 4: that he doesn't want to overly emphasize that because he's

851
00:39:57,478 --> 00:40:00,558
Speaker 4: just going to create more torque centers or batspeed. And

852
00:40:00,638 --> 00:40:04,918
Speaker 4: I get that. But I from my own eyes, almost

853
00:40:04,958 --> 00:40:07,558
Speaker 4: every player that I had that turned into really good

854
00:40:07,598 --> 00:40:12,398
Speaker 4: Major League baseball players started out somewhat thin. As I mean.

855
00:40:12,438 --> 00:40:16,038
Speaker 4: I saw Jose Canseco in Medford, Oregon, when he was

856
00:40:16,158 --> 00:40:17,878
Speaker 4: I don't know, right out of Miami, whatever it was.

857
00:40:18,078 --> 00:40:19,998
Speaker 4: The guy was real thin. I saw Mark McGuire and

858
00:40:20,038 --> 00:40:22,478
Speaker 4: I know, talking about two guys from the Stairway ere.

859
00:40:22,598 --> 00:40:25,878
Speaker 4: I get that. But I saw Mark McGuire at the

860
00:40:25,918 --> 00:40:29,158
Speaker 4: Geodatry Park when he was just right out of USC

861
00:40:29,278 --> 00:40:31,278
Speaker 4: and my god, he was thin, and then all of

862
00:40:31,318 --> 00:40:34,158
Speaker 4: a sudden he did get bigger. I get that, But overall,

863
00:40:34,438 --> 00:40:36,638
Speaker 4: there's a lot of guys that I had had that

864
00:40:37,038 --> 00:40:39,678
Speaker 4: naturally just got to that moment. He's gonna he's gonna

865
00:40:39,678 --> 00:40:41,918
Speaker 4: get bigger, he's gonna get stronger, and like I said,

866
00:40:41,958 --> 00:40:44,438
Speaker 4: the fact that he's a gap guy and he goes

867
00:40:44,478 --> 00:40:46,958
Speaker 4: the other guy, he knows the apple gap. To me,

868
00:40:47,638 --> 00:40:51,918
Speaker 4: that is so attractive and regarding regarding developing power as

869
00:40:51,958 --> 00:40:53,798
Speaker 4: he moves forward, and then with that's gonna come more

870
00:40:53,878 --> 00:40:57,478
Speaker 4: runs in RBIs, et cetera. He's got it right. He's

871
00:40:57,518 --> 00:40:59,598
Speaker 4: just gonna go and he's gonna the goals are going

872
00:40:59,678 --> 00:41:02,678
Speaker 4: to be just to to do the right thing and

873
00:41:02,758 --> 00:41:05,718
Speaker 4: set up the right process and eventually the result is

874
00:41:05,718 --> 00:41:07,158
Speaker 4: going to be exactly what he's looking for. And I

875
00:41:07,198 --> 00:41:07,518
Speaker 4: love that.

876
00:41:07,918 --> 00:41:10,158
Speaker 1: Yeah. And speaking of you know, kind of putting on

877
00:41:10,238 --> 00:41:13,118
Speaker 1: your scouts, hatch, I'm curious your take on this. When

878
00:41:13,118 --> 00:41:16,278
Speaker 1: you see a young player like this who does have

879
00:41:16,358 --> 00:41:19,638
Speaker 1: an extraordinary command of the strike zone, not just good,

880
00:41:19,678 --> 00:41:24,078
Speaker 1: it's extraordinary. That guy's going to be a star. I

881
00:41:24,078 --> 00:41:26,758
Speaker 1: don't know about you, but I think there's only so

882
00:41:27,038 --> 00:41:31,438
Speaker 1: far you can go with hitters in terms of plate discipline.

883
00:41:31,558 --> 00:41:35,638
Speaker 1: Can it be improved? Absolutely? Can you go from a

884
00:41:35,678 --> 00:41:40,158
Speaker 1: guy who chases wildly to a guy who's an Evan Carter? No,

885
00:41:40,398 --> 00:41:42,598
Speaker 1: I don't think that can happen. I think it's sort

886
00:41:42,598 --> 00:41:45,078
Speaker 1: of like change ups with pitchers. You have a feel

887
00:41:45,118 --> 00:41:48,118
Speaker 1: for it or you don't. There's only incremental movements that

888
00:41:48,158 --> 00:41:50,918
Speaker 1: you can make. So I feel that way about plate discipline.

889
00:41:52,038 --> 00:41:54,758
Speaker 1: It's sort of like the idol of a car engine.

890
00:41:54,838 --> 00:41:56,678
Speaker 1: It is what it is, and maybe you can tweak

891
00:41:56,718 --> 00:41:59,638
Speaker 1: it a little bit, but you're not going to take

892
00:41:59,678 --> 00:42:02,918
Speaker 1: a guy who's undisciplined and tournament to Evan Carter. And

893
00:42:02,958 --> 00:42:06,078
Speaker 1: I think when you have Evan Carter, he's not going

894
00:42:06,118 --> 00:42:08,718
Speaker 1: to regress into a guy who's going to swing wildly.

895
00:42:09,158 --> 00:42:11,838
Speaker 1: So I think when we see this base of plate

896
00:42:11,958 --> 00:42:16,438
Speaker 1: discipline at twenty one, my goodness, that this guy is

897
00:42:16,518 --> 00:42:20,198
Speaker 1: going to put up just amazing numbers. I'm talking about

898
00:42:20,198 --> 00:42:22,598
Speaker 1: on base percentage and batting average.

899
00:42:22,758 --> 00:42:25,478
Speaker 4: Tell me, I think that's a great evaluation. And I

900
00:42:25,518 --> 00:42:29,158
Speaker 4: cannot agree with you more. If the organization wants that,

901
00:42:29,358 --> 00:42:31,838
Speaker 4: you've got to purchase that normally, whether it's out of

902
00:42:31,838 --> 00:42:34,198
Speaker 4: the draft, a high school kid, college kid, or just

903
00:42:34,238 --> 00:42:37,518
Speaker 4: by free agent signing or somebody from another organization. Once

904
00:42:37,558 --> 00:42:40,278
Speaker 4: you've identified somebody like that and that's what you want,

905
00:42:40,318 --> 00:42:42,198
Speaker 4: you got to go get it, Go get it, bring

906
00:42:42,198 --> 00:42:45,438
Speaker 4: that into the organization. Because you're right, and I've gone

907
00:42:45,478 --> 00:42:47,238
Speaker 4: through this, I've gone through this. As a hitting coach,

908
00:42:47,598 --> 00:42:50,598
Speaker 4: one of my biggest things was it was the attempt to,

909
00:42:51,078 --> 00:42:56,158
Speaker 4: like I said earlier, increase walks and diminish the strikeout.

910
00:42:56,638 --> 00:42:58,558
Speaker 4: So I had something called the b hack, my two

911
00:42:58,558 --> 00:43:01,118
Speaker 4: strike approach. All this stuff. The thing that I found

912
00:43:01,158 --> 00:43:05,358
Speaker 4: as a hitting coach it is somewhat easier to give

913
00:43:05,478 --> 00:43:08,478
Speaker 4: a hitter tools to not strike out than it is

914
00:43:08,518 --> 00:43:10,998
Speaker 4: to give them tools to accept the walk. That was

915
00:43:11,118 --> 00:43:15,198
Speaker 4: my opinion. There's just different things like again, you could

916
00:43:15,198 --> 00:43:17,758
Speaker 4: it's a mental adaptation to cut down in your swing,

917
00:43:17,798 --> 00:43:20,398
Speaker 4: maybe choke up, maybe look away first. These are things

918
00:43:20,438 --> 00:43:23,118
Speaker 4: that they can do without really trying to change their

919
00:43:23,238 --> 00:43:25,998
Speaker 4: DNA as a hitter, but to get them to actually

920
00:43:26,158 --> 00:43:31,438
Speaker 4: walk more while their proclivity is to swing. I'm a

921
00:43:31,438 --> 00:43:34,158
Speaker 4: swing man. I want to swing, go ahead, And so

922
00:43:34,718 --> 00:43:37,318
Speaker 4: if you could get them just to maybe be a

923
00:43:37,358 --> 00:43:40,038
Speaker 4: little bit more disciplined with the two strike, A bigcount

924
00:43:40,078 --> 00:43:42,478
Speaker 4: is the full count. The full count's a bigcount where

925
00:43:42,478 --> 00:43:44,678
Speaker 4: guys just want to swing. You might have to have

926
00:43:44,718 --> 00:43:47,158
Speaker 4: these kinds of conversations. And what I would do, I

927
00:43:47,158 --> 00:43:48,918
Speaker 4: would take them out to the cage and set up

928
00:43:48,918 --> 00:43:51,998
Speaker 4: a pitching machine, more than likely a breaking ball that

929
00:43:51,998 --> 00:43:53,758
Speaker 4: would start out as a strike and become a ball.

930
00:43:53,958 --> 00:43:57,158
Speaker 4: And I literally practice taking pitches and not swing at it.

931
00:43:57,358 --> 00:43:59,438
Speaker 4: I want you to watch where this pitch begins, how

932
00:43:59,438 --> 00:44:02,558
Speaker 4: it concludes, go through your whole process, shut it down,

933
00:44:02,798 --> 00:44:06,158
Speaker 4: accept the ball, except your walk harder to do so

934
00:44:06,398 --> 00:44:10,678
Speaker 4: you're right on the money. I love it. And if

935
00:44:10,718 --> 00:44:13,438
Speaker 4: I have a bunch of dudes that make pitchers pitch

936
00:44:13,518 --> 00:44:15,798
Speaker 4: and throw and force them, like I said, to get

937
00:44:15,798 --> 00:44:18,958
Speaker 4: you out in the strike zone. Wow, that's what That's

938
00:44:18,958 --> 00:44:20,598
Speaker 4: how good offensive team is created.

939
00:44:20,878 --> 00:44:23,198
Speaker 1: Well think about this too, Joe. I think this is

940
00:44:23,318 --> 00:44:26,078
Speaker 1: just the opening of a window for the Texas Rangers.

941
00:44:26,558 --> 00:44:30,758
Speaker 1: Evan Carter is still qualified as a rookie next year.

942
00:44:32,118 --> 00:44:36,118
Speaker 1: They also have Wyatt Langford prospect you're going to see

943
00:44:36,118 --> 00:44:40,358
Speaker 1: an outfielder going to see next year. Both those guys

944
00:44:40,398 --> 00:44:42,398
Speaker 1: are going to be raided if they're not already in

945
00:44:42,438 --> 00:44:46,158
Speaker 1: the top five prospects for Major League Baseball in twenty

946
00:44:46,198 --> 00:44:49,758
Speaker 1: twenty four. You still have Leody Taveres in center field,

947
00:44:49,798 --> 00:44:53,278
Speaker 1: who I think just has a ton of talent. He's

948
00:44:53,358 --> 00:44:55,598
Speaker 1: still young and he's just scratching the surface. And of

949
00:44:55,638 --> 00:44:58,358
Speaker 1: course you've got a Doley Garcia. I mean, they're just

950
00:44:58,478 --> 00:45:02,078
Speaker 1: loaded in the outfield, They're loaded across the diamond. We

951
00:45:02,198 --> 00:45:04,678
Speaker 1: know that they're going to spend money. I look at

952
00:45:04,678 --> 00:45:07,278
Speaker 1: the Texas Rangers and Evan Carter is certainly a big

953
00:45:07,358 --> 00:45:11,438
Speaker 1: part of this. Joe that this window is just only opening.

954
00:45:11,518 --> 00:45:14,278
Speaker 1: This was not a one off world series, Fluke, folks.

955
00:45:15,598 --> 00:45:17,838
Speaker 1: This is looking like the team that is going to

956
00:45:17,878 --> 00:45:20,438
Speaker 1: take the mantle from the Houston Astros as the team

957
00:45:20,518 --> 00:45:22,478
Speaker 1: to beat in the American League West.

958
00:45:23,118 --> 00:45:26,518
Speaker 4: Yeah, all great points. Again, as I'm a fan this

959
00:45:26,678 --> 00:45:30,718
Speaker 4: this Evan absolutely convinced me even before you got on

960
00:45:30,838 --> 00:45:34,678
Speaker 4: the podcast, was just talking to him back and forth briefly.

961
00:45:35,198 --> 00:45:39,758
Speaker 4: Just it's incredible poise about him, incredible ability to process

962
00:45:39,838 --> 00:45:42,558
Speaker 4: the moment what's important to me. And this is what

963
00:45:42,598 --> 00:45:44,398
Speaker 4: I'm this is what I'm going after. I'm not just

964
00:45:44,438 --> 00:45:47,358
Speaker 4: gonna be worried about all this so perfluous nonsense. I'm

965
00:45:47,438 --> 00:45:50,558
Speaker 4: very focused in both on the field and off the field.

966
00:45:50,958 --> 00:45:54,718
Speaker 4: Wow again, and if I'm see why Chris Younger boach

967
00:45:54,758 --> 00:45:58,398
Speaker 4: of those dudes, my goodness, to know that this young

968
00:45:58,438 --> 00:46:00,478
Speaker 4: man is going to influence other young men walking in

969
00:46:00,518 --> 00:46:03,038
Speaker 4: the door, I feel pretty pretty darn good about that.

970
00:46:03,478 --> 00:46:05,598
Speaker 1: Yep, we got a good thing going and a good

971
00:46:05,678 --> 00:46:11,198
Speaker 1: one in Evan Carter Joe for us, as I do

972
00:46:11,478 --> 00:46:14,198
Speaker 1: every time we meet, I ask you to to take

973
00:46:14,238 --> 00:46:16,558
Speaker 1: care of the final inning here, give us a closing

974
00:46:17,158 --> 00:46:19,358
Speaker 1: statement here and your choice.

975
00:46:19,678 --> 00:46:23,118
Speaker 4: Yeah, and again it's just it's just happened again. When

976
00:46:23,118 --> 00:46:26,518
Speaker 4: did the psycho cyburnetix a little bit today? And you

977
00:46:26,518 --> 00:46:28,678
Speaker 4: know it's like that's almost like a it's kind of

978
00:46:28,718 --> 00:46:31,158
Speaker 4: a positive thinking and a peace of mind kind of

979
00:46:31,158 --> 00:46:34,518
Speaker 4: a thing. But this is a this is like dovetails

980
00:46:34,558 --> 00:46:38,118
Speaker 4: into what I just heard with Evan. Man maintains his balance,

981
00:46:38,238 --> 00:46:42,758
Speaker 4: poise and sense of security only as he's moving forward. Wow,

982
00:46:44,358 --> 00:46:47,478
Speaker 4: it's true. And and this kid here is all about balance.

983
00:46:47,518 --> 00:46:49,358
Speaker 4: He's all about poise, he's all about a sense of

984
00:46:49,398 --> 00:46:52,078
Speaker 4: security man, and he's going to continue to move forward,

985
00:46:52,118 --> 00:46:56,198
Speaker 4: there's no doubt. I was, Yeah, a big fan, big

986
00:46:56,238 --> 00:46:58,678
Speaker 4: fan already. And like I said, he's going to be

987
00:46:58,718 --> 00:47:01,398
Speaker 4: there to nurture their young players in the future. Good

988
00:47:01,398 --> 00:47:02,518
Speaker 4: for the Rangers.

989
00:47:02,238 --> 00:47:05,038
Speaker 1: By That was very fitting because that is literally and

990
00:47:05,158 --> 00:47:08,558
Speaker 1: figuratively who having Carter is. It's all about the balance.

991
00:47:08,718 --> 00:47:11,358
Speaker 4: I'm always I'm always curious, like I write this stuff

992
00:47:11,358 --> 00:47:13,838
Speaker 4: down before we start. People almost think like you know

993
00:47:13,878 --> 00:47:16,478
Speaker 4: you've tipped me off. I had no clue. This is

994
00:47:17,238 --> 00:47:18,558
Speaker 4: an incredible fit that.

995
00:47:18,558 --> 00:47:20,278
Speaker 1: Was a lot of fun. Really enjoyed it. Joe, We'll

996
00:47:20,278 --> 00:47:21,038
Speaker 1: see you next time.

997
00:47:21,158 --> 00:47:28,918
Speaker 4: Sit in here. Tell me thanks, Buddy.

998
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