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Speaker 1: Hi am Kate Hudson, and my name is Oliver Hudson.

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Speaker 1: We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationships and

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Speaker 1: what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling railvalry. No, no, sibling.

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Speaker 1: You don't do that with your mouth revely. That's good.

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Speaker 1: Oliver Hudson, Hudson Hudson, Oliver Hudson, Hudson, Hutson, you're always

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Speaker 1: Introvere's something like European eight nineties gym like Oliver Hudson, Hudson,

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Speaker 1: sure what language. That was all I've heard. Well, actually

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Speaker 1: this is This works because we're introducing Nina from Bulgarian

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Speaker 1: Bulgarian Bulgarian beat. So no, this was fun. I've known

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Speaker 1: Nina a long time. I've never met her brother, and

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Speaker 1: he's funny. He was really funny, super dry, Yeah, sitting

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Speaker 1: in his cubicle in Toronto, Toronto. But what I loved

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Speaker 1: about this is I got to know her differently than

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Speaker 1: I had no idea what her story is I mean

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Speaker 1: a real I mean immigrants from Bulgaria during communist Bulgaria

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Speaker 1: and the family moved to Canada and their journey there

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Speaker 1: and their journey there, yeah, which was wild. I was like,

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Speaker 1: they were both extremely rebellious kids, and they weren't really

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Speaker 1: close honestly when they were young. They got close when

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Speaker 1: they got older. It was It's a really interesting immigrant

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Speaker 1: was a real don't give it away, okay, But I'm

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Speaker 1: just saying I really appreciated this podcast because it's the

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Speaker 1: first time I think we've really heard about it from

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Speaker 1: the child's perspective, right moving countries, and I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: Bulgarian was their first language. They also explained their their

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Speaker 1: childhood as absolute hatred, which was like they really didn't

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Speaker 1: Nina and Alex dopra hire you guys, welcome to our podcast.

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Speaker 1: Where are we? Where are we speaking from? Nina? Where

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Speaker 1: You're in La Alex? Where are you? You're in Toronto?

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Speaker 1: Toronto cold? Toronto cold? We are we at there? Super

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Speaker 1: cold twenty celsius, which is what zero fa night? Oh

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Speaker 1: my god? Are you from Toronto? Originally we are originally

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Speaker 1: She was were born and born Bulgaria, raised Canadian. Correct

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Speaker 1: Correct your Bulgarian, Your Bulgardian, you're a Bulgadian. That's oh really,

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Speaker 1: And we had very very humble beginnings at that time,

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Speaker 1: of the time. But I feel like if they hadn't

428
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Speaker 1: been a strict I wouldn't have It wouldn't have been

429
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Speaker 1: a taboo thing. Right, were you not you, babe? I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna say yes, I think yeah. I mean, because you're

431
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Speaker 1: by nature, we know each other. You know you're you're adventurous,

432
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,640
Speaker 1: you like the thrilling types of things. You're a little

433
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Speaker 1: more on the thrill seeking side. So I would think

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Speaker 1: as a little girl, as a younger girl, growing up

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Speaker 1: that you probably would have been pretty anxiety, Like you

436
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Speaker 1: would have given me as a mother, a lot of anxiety.

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Speaker 1: You would have given me as a sister anxiety. I

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Speaker 1: would have been like, Nina, No, you can't do that. Yeah,

439
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 1: you nailed it on the head. I think I was pretty,

440
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Speaker 1: But I also was really good at hiding it, or

441
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Speaker 1: at least I thought I was good at hiding. You're

442
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Speaker 1: a medium good at hiding it, Alex. Were you naughty?

443
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Speaker 1: I got? I got. I don't like the word naughty.

444
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:54,879
Speaker 1: It's sexual. Okay, okay, fine, were you rebellious? Oh but

445
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Speaker 1: Nina got caught, Nina. I'd say Nina got caught more

446
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Speaker 1: than I'd got. I got caught. Like she got suspended

447
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:09,120
Speaker 1: for vandalism. Yeah, what did you do? What did you do? Yeah,

448
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:17,160
Speaker 1: I'd rather not. Yeah, but she didn't even use spray paint.

449
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 1: They just took chalk to the wall, like you could

450
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 1: have just watered it off. But she got she got suspended,

451
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 1: and she got grounded for six months, and her accomplice

452
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 1: only got two weeks or something like two weeks of grounding.

453
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 1: So like it was for that sounds extreme? Well, they wrote,

454
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 1: They just wrote, you know what, do you guys write

455
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Speaker 1: that the principals don't want to get into it was

456
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:47,479
Speaker 1: so long ago. Whatever you said it was offending, like

457
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Speaker 1: it was towards the principal or something. Yeah, we were

458
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Speaker 1: upset with something that happened, I guess, and we took

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Speaker 1: chalk to the school yard after hours, and you protess

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Speaker 1: it was a half protest. We're Canadian, so we're really

462
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Speaker 1: nice about it. Okay, I picture this. Okay, you have dinner,

463
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Speaker 1: com slash sibling. Now, Alex, were you into the arts

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Speaker 1: like your sister or were you? I mean, you look

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00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 1: like you have a very sort of more linear setup. Here.

528
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 1: I'm seeing an office. You've got a very professional headset on.

529
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: It feels like you're you went the business right right,

530
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 1: He's about to go down this being John Malkovich little

531
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: like Rabbit hole. Right, Yeah, you look like you could

532
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Speaker 1: be a bookie. You know, you should be like, Oh,

533
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Speaker 1: he's got the attitude. It's kind of a bookie, right,

534
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: he could be like we should maybe get into that.

535
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Speaker 1: He's like working the backhouse and like an uncut Gems

536
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 1: type situation. Yes, I like that. I feel like or

537
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: it could be as simple as you know, your your

538
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 1: lawyer a lawyer, he's coding coding. Now I'm I'm an engineer,

539
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 1: so I work with a team of other engineers and

540
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 1: we plan out and build big infrastructure projects. So right

541
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: now we're working on a wastewater treatment plant that's in Toronto.

542
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Speaker 1: We're we're bidding it and hopefully we're rewarded so we

543
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Speaker 1: can go build it. So what about the art standing

544
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 1: and was your parents like, what the hell do you want?

545
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Speaker 1: Why do you want to do this? I mean, my

546
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Speaker 1: mom's a painter and you know she restores, so she

547
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 1: understood it more than my dad did. He fully, he

548
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 1: probably just like a week ago, figured out what I

549
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 1: was doing. I'm obviously kidding, but at the beginning he

550
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: wasn't very supportive. In fact, he would when I started auditioning.

551
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 1: I think I was like fourteen years old, and I

552
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 1: didn't really tell them at first that I was doing

553
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Speaker 1: what I was doing. And once I started having to

554
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Speaker 1: leave school to be able to do things, they made

555
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 1: they like imposed new rules for me because they didn't

556
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,839
Speaker 1: think this was a real profession and that I could

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Speaker 1: do this. So they started making me read books every week,

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Speaker 1: and if I didn't finish the book or didn't finish

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Speaker 1: the book report and submit it to my parents for

560
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 1: the book that i'd read that week, then I couldn't

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Speaker 1: go on auditions the following week. And then they told

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Speaker 1: me that if I didn't go to college, I couldn't

563
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Speaker 1: continue acting. So they were like very they wanted education

564
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Speaker 1: to be at the forefront and wanted to make sure

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Speaker 1: that I had a backup plan if it didn't work out,

566
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Speaker 1: because they genuinely didn't think it would work out. Were

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Speaker 1: you in high school when you got what's it called

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Speaker 1: degraphy degrass? How do you pronounce it? It's degrassy, but

569
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Speaker 1: Americans say degrassi for some reason. Grassy so degrassy, But

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Speaker 1: explain what it is for those who don't know. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Degrassi is a high school sort of so be drama

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00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 1: that is shot in Toronto. It was drama. It wasn't

573
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Speaker 1: like Sall No, it wasn't. It was like it was

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Speaker 1: Dartha and they went out. Yeah, and they really prided

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Speaker 1: themselves and being the first to do a lot of things,

576
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Speaker 1: like I think we were the first to say bitch.

577
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: They were like the nineties euphoria right, like they're like,

578
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Speaker 1: Paul put a hold of my diaphragmy, he did, I

579
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Speaker 1: swear he put a hole in my hire ramd And

580
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Speaker 1: like one of the characters on the Grass, you did

581
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Speaker 1: cocaine on camera way before it was cool. Okay to

582
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Speaker 1: do that on camera and follow you Yeah, and we

583
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 1: like my character to give you context was a I

584
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 1: was the single mom in school. Okay, so you had

585
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Speaker 1: a baby. I had a baby. And there's a funny

586
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Speaker 1: story there because that was one of my first days

587
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Speaker 1: of shooting ever, and so I had to shoot with

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Speaker 1: the baby like an actual infant child. And I didn't

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Speaker 1: even like I was fourteen that I didn't know what

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Speaker 1: a mark was like. It was really challenging for me.

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Speaker 1: So I always like, I cringe when I look back

592
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Speaker 1: at those episodes because I really have no idea what

593
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Speaker 1: I'm doing. And they actually had to recast, like we

594
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Speaker 1: shot a whole day and then they had to completely

595
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Speaker 1: scrap it because the babies hated me so much. They

596
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: wouldn't stop crying, Like I couldn't get a line and

597
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Speaker 1: without it was like screaming in my face. I wouldn't

598
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Speaker 1: personally I know that now, but at the time it

599
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Speaker 1: was very traumatizing. This always going to be like it's

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Speaker 1: so scary, I know, right, And so they and there

601
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Speaker 1: was triplets, like whenever one baby would cry, they would

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Speaker 1: bring in the next one, and like not one of

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Speaker 1: them liked me at all. So then they scrapped the

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Speaker 1: whole day. And then the next day we come to

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Speaker 1: the set and they've recast the child and it's a

606
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Speaker 1: full blow. It's a four year old, like it's a

607
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Speaker 1: it's like she has long hair up to my waist,

608
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Speaker 1: like she's tall. So funny ten correct, Yeah, well three

609
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Speaker 1: year old single mom with a four year old kid.

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Speaker 1: It was like it didn't make any sense, but she

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Speaker 1: didn't cry, so it who and Drake played. Drake played

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Speaker 1: Jimmy I think was the name of his character, and

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Speaker 1: he he was shot in the show and was in

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Speaker 1: a wheelchair for half of his time on the show.

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Speaker 1: I love this. I want to go back and watch

616
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Speaker 1: its weird, Like, who's that like in high school for you?

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Speaker 1: What was it like, Alex for you? Although I guess

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Speaker 1: you were out your rudge, right he would have been nineteen, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but what was it like to see your sister? Because

620
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Speaker 1: that show is really popular. It was, right, so he

621
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Speaker 1: probably used to do his advantage, you know, my sisters think,

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Speaker 1: but I did, uh no in university actually, like my

623
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Speaker 1: friends would would would go up to girls and go, hey,

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Speaker 1: you guys know so and so into Grassy like that's yeah,

625
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,919
Speaker 1: that's his that's his sister, right, and yeah, like I'd

626
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 1: try to stay away from it because a lot of

627
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:36,320
Speaker 1: the time like that's the it's more like little teeny boppers,

628
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 1: like younger people that are into it. But then when

629
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Speaker 1: Nina got into Vampire Diaries, then it started getting the

630
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Speaker 1: older crowd as well. And I still I still don't

631
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632
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Speaker 1: to me, right, So, but my friends was yeah, no,

633
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Speaker 1: it was the opposite. I railed against to my parents

634
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 1: where I couldn't stand. I just wanted it was just horrible. Okay,

635
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Speaker 1: So how did that change your high school experience? And

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Speaker 1: then your parents' perception of you wanting to write was

637
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 1: your dad finally like she did, he sounded exactly like

638
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: that I'm having like I do a lot of research

639
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 1: before these podcasts. You can tell, you can really tell. Yeah,

640
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: I mean at the beginning the first two, like the

641
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 1: show hadn't come out, like we shot the episodes, but

642
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,800
Speaker 1: it hadn't aired yet. For the first year, so it

643
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: was just a normal high school experience, except I was

644
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 1: just I was away a lot, and then in my

645
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 1: last and like senior year, I was almost never there

646
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 1: at all, so it was a little weird when I

647
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 1: showed back up to prom like I was gone, and

648
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden I showed up, everyone was like, oh,

649
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: you still go here, like it was. It was a

650
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 1: bit of a bummer because everyone had these inside jokes

651
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 1: that I isn't a part of and it made me

652
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 1: a little sad. But but for the most part, most

653
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 1: of the years until that last year, I got to

654
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,320
Speaker 1: just have a normal experience, which is really cool. And

655
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: then my dad eventually like once once I got Vampire

656
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 1: Diaries and moved to the States and had to drop

657
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:20,240
Speaker 1: out of college, that's when, Oh, that's when he was like, Okay,

658
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,359
Speaker 1: I see how this is like, this is a really

659
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 1: it's a popular show. You're actually making a living from this.

660
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: You're succeeding. You're doing movies now too. Like he started,

661
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 1: he recognized that this was my path now and it

662
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 1: wasn't going to be a was He like, and I'm

663
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 1: sure deep down it was proud of you. That's pretty good.

664
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 1: That sounds more like you're tapping into our Hungarian ruth.

665
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:51,879
Speaker 1: But I'm really probing if I ever make a bio

666
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: him out of my life, I'm gonna chiosk you as

667
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 1: my father. Oh I would love that father. You're really

668
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: aging him up there, Nina. That's all right, you know

669
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,839
Speaker 1: it'll be you know, flashback a younger thirty year old

670
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 1: Common's Bulgarian. Oh god, I'm already. I'm already sweating for

671
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: all of our I saw a picture of your dad.

672
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 1: Act I think I could. I think I could plan

673
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 1: you did. You'd have to grow your beard out. I

674
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 1: just had a big beard. I just shaved it, you know,

675
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:25,879
Speaker 1: I think I was. What I was going to say

676
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:29,399
Speaker 1: was that your parents probably just based on like, look,

677
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: Communist Bulgaria having you know, real refugees having to kind

678
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 1: of out of fear, leave and look for a better

679
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 1: life for their family. I'm sure deep down it's all

680
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 1: just about stability. They just want you guys to be

681
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 1: in stable jobs where you you know, and there's nothing

682
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 1: more unstable than the life of an artist totally, you know.

683
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 1: So it's sort of like more fear based, I guess,

684
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 1: wanting you guys to have the best. Alex. What did

685
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 1: you end up stay and where did you go to

686
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: school for college? College? I didn't because my parents, our

687
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 1: parents were so busy working. I didn't really get much

688
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 1: guidance in high school. So it was it was in

689
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 1: the last year that I discovered that I need really

690
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 1: high marks to get into university and I only had

691
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 1: mediocre marks, so I had to I couldn't get into

692
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,800
Speaker 1: university immediately. I went to Europe to kind of spend

693
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 1: time with my grandparents and I started taking some classes

694
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: there to kind of upgrade my marks. And then when

695
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 1: I finally got good marks, I came back to Canada

696
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:41,760
Speaker 1: and just finished university there. But again, like in civil engineering,

697
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 1: so construction and all the math and a lot of

698
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 1: the stuff that seed like I kind of followed in

699
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 1: my dad's kind of footsteps, while my sister followed the

700
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 1: artistics side my mom's footsteps. Do you are you artistic

701
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 1: in any way? I mean, do you have do you

702
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 1: have it in you? I do, but it's not it doesn't.

703
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 1: You kind of have to force it. You were talking

704
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 1: about mushrooms earlier, and if I ever dabble one mushrooms,

705
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 1: then I start coming a little more artistic. You mean

706
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,800
Speaker 1: when you when you dabble? When you mean if you

707
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 1: ever tried to Dabbleah, yeah, well I think most of

708
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,399
Speaker 1: the world probably feels that way. Most of the world

709
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 1: needs a little mushroom. I agree. I agree. How old

710
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: are you out? Thirty seven? So married? No? No girlfriend?

711
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,839
Speaker 1: Serious girlfriend? Then there's a kid on the way? Oh

712
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:40,879
Speaker 1: good like you guys. Yeah, that's awesome. That's I wasn't

713
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 1: sure if he was going to say so exciting. Congrats

714
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 1: talk about a life moment. It's going to be great.

715
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 1: Your life is over, but it's going to be fun.

716
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 1: It's just beginning. Could you imagine your life without your kids? No? No,

717
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 1: I couldn't, but I remember my life without my kid.

718
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:07,800
Speaker 1: I don't think I ever had. What's the future look like?

719
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 1: It looks pretty sweet. It looks if you're a part

720
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:17,200
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721
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722
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723
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750
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Speaker 1: slash sibling. Let's talk about travel for a second, because

751
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: you and I know you love to explore Alex, are

752
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:56,879
Speaker 1: you similar, Yeah, we uh after high school or after

753
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: like once we got to an adult age. I think

754
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 1: we most they connected just through travel adventures extreme sports.

755
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 1: Does that come from your parents? It's a very Bulgarian trade,

756
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,919
Speaker 1: just so you know. Yeah, all Over knows because he's

757
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 1: part Bulgarian. No, you know, we yeah, when we were

758
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 1: we didn't have a lot of money to travel when

759
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 1: we were younger, but we did a lot of road

760
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 1: trips in the car, like it was a priority to

761
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 1: try to do whatever we could growing up. So I

762
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 1: think that once we became adults and we had the

763
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: means to do it more, both Alex and I made

764
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 1: it a priority, and I remember the first trip when

765
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 1: we really really bonded the most was when I called up.

766
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 1: I called him and told him to check his email

767
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: because I had booked him a flight to meet me

768
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 1: in Hawaii, because my parents had towards the end they

769
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 1: were like they basically were like, look, we love you guys,

770
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 1: and what's best for you, so please just promise us,

771
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: like you can do anything you want, just promise us

772
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 1: that you're not going to do anything stupid like do

773
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 1: heroin or you know, jump out of a plane or

774
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 1: you know, like that kind of stuff that's going to

775
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 1: endanger you. So as soon as I could, I booked

776
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 1: him a flight to Hawaii and we went skydiving. Did

777
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 1: you just skydive the one time? Uh? I together together?

778
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,879
Speaker 1: To one time? Nina has done it? Haven't you done

779
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 1: it multiple times? Yeah? I've done it like four or

780
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,800
Speaker 1: five times. I love it. Yeah, But it was the

781
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 1: one thing they told us not to do, one of

782
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,320
Speaker 1: the things they told us not to do, and we

783
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: took a video and that year I didn't go to Christmas,

784
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:33,320
Speaker 1: Like I was having a yes year of traveling and

785
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 1: trying to you know, find myself, and so instead of

786
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 1: going to Christmas, I just sent them the tape and

787
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,439
Speaker 1: I wrapped it up like a gift because I knew

788
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:46,359
Speaker 1: they were going to fucking kill me when they knew

789
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 1: that we did the one thing they said not to do.

790
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 1: So yeah, but on that on that trip, Nina was

791
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 1: kind of she had just finished another trip where she

792
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:57,760
Speaker 1: was kind of on the like, like she said earlier,

793
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 1: just yes to everything. So when we were in Hawaii,

794
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:06,240
Speaker 1: she would get day drunk and she had gotten injured previously,

795
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 1: so she could only get around on crutches. Do you

796
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 1: remember you busted up? How many years ago was this? Thirteen? Yeah?

797
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 1: I feel like I remember this time, yeah, and then

798
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 1: Hawaii A lot of people do. I don't remember a

799
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 1: lot of it, but a lot of other people I

800
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:25,720
Speaker 1: remember this time. You were like gone all the time,

801
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: and you were always somewhere with you know, Julianne, Julianne

802
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 1: and Rihanna, Right, wasn't Rihanna there too? Some of the

803
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 1: you guys, there was like one point and then you

804
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 1: got you hurt yourself. I was trying to scare everybody.

805
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 1: I was like hiding behind a bush on this like

806
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 1: on a second story, and I tried to scare everybody.

807
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,800
Speaker 1: But I had been drinking, so I didn't you know,

808
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 1: the distance between the ground and where I was. You know,

809
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 1: I underestimated how high it was, so I jumped out

810
00:48:56,520 --> 00:49:00,399
Speaker 1: and scared them, but then landed. All the weight kind

811
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 1: of crushed my ankle. But I still had like two

812
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 1: months of traveling ahead of me, and I didn't cancel

813
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:06,879
Speaker 1: any of it. It was just like we kept going.

814
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 1: I remember this, that's so funny. Yeah, things you can

815
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 1: do in your twenties that you can't really do anymore,

816
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:20,320
Speaker 1: nor do I want to anymore. Guys, she was she

817
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 1: was only hurt selective amount of time, meaning when she

818
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:26,879
Speaker 1: got and when she got enough liquor in her, we'd

819
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 1: run on. She'd go on the beach and do cartwheels

820
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 1: and show off to people and go like jump on

821
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 1: jet skis. And then even when we went skydiving, she

822
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 1: rolled in on crutches, and then when we're putting on everything,

823
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 1: she just threw the crutches away. She's like, I'm good,

824
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: let's do this. So when it benefits, when it benefits,

825
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 1: her she's injured, is what you're saying. Yeah, and getting

826
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:53,840
Speaker 1: through tsa smart, very smart. So, now, like, do you

827
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 1: guys make a point to actually stay connected through travel?

828
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,359
Speaker 1: We do. We have to travel to see each other

829
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:02,240
Speaker 1: because he lives in Canada and I'm here in the States.

830
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 1: But do you make a point to do it? Yeah,

831
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:08,879
Speaker 1: I mean we do. But at the same time, it's

832
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 1: definitely a different kind of travel. It's not what we

833
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 1: just described, you know, it's a lot more calm. We

834
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 1: were in Colorado for Christmas and we had a really

835
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 1: great time there, but it's it's just a more grounded

836
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 1: connection and experience now when we see each other. Okay,

837
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,320
Speaker 1: so what do we have to look forward to now? Like,

838
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:32,800
Speaker 1: what is you know? I mean, Alex, obviously baby Baby's

839
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 1: coming that that's huge. And then Nina, You're going to

840
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 1: be an anti, which is incredible. But Nina, what about you?

841
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:44,879
Speaker 1: What are you looking forward to right now? Well? I'm

842
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 1: excited about being an auntie. Like you said, I'm an

843
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 1: auntie to so many of my friends' kids, but now

844
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 1: I get to be an actual auntie. And I just

845
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:56,800
Speaker 1: gained a sister in law. Almost at some point in

846
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 1: the next year, I'll have an official sister in law,

847
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 1: so that's really exciting. But on a professional level, I

848
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 1: started producing a lot more, which is really exciting, and

849
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 1: and I have a couple of things that are in

850
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 1: the pipeline for this year that that I can't wait

851
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 1: to get off the ground. But aside from that, like

852
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:22,479
Speaker 1: you know, COVID's been COVID has been good and bad

853
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 1: for so many people and for so many reasons, and

854
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 1: and it's made us realize a lot of things, and

855
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 1: it's forced me to slow down in a great way

856
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 1: in so many ways. But I am starting to get

857
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 1: that itch of wanting to travel again. Yeah, so I

858
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 1: ready to go. Just get me out of here, get

859
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 1: me back to the way my life used to be.

860
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 1: It was, this was great, and now I just want

861
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:49,800
Speaker 1: to like do things. Yeah, shree door, speed down, okay.

862
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 1: One word to describe each other, Nina is tenacious, Alex

863
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 1: Alex is so many words, Alex is loyal okay. And

864
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:12,760
Speaker 1: then one word to describe each other at like fourteen fifteen,

865
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 1: they didn't even know each other. Then basically Alex is mean, wow,

866
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 1: just bratty. Yeah, geez, I like it. I deserve that.

867
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 1: I probably the same thing or it wasn't braddy. No,

868
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 1: you were just I would say Oliver was jealous, not

869
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 1: a dadd age. We've never done with that. But no,

870
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 1: I know, I'd say goofy. You were goofy. Yeah, like

871
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 1: everything about you was just goofy and you were like

872
00:52:56,640 --> 00:53:02,399
Speaker 1: a little like you have that like linky weird Gumbia name.

873
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:06,279
Speaker 1: You were needy. I didn't know we could do I

874
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 1: didn't know we could do physical attribute. It was so needy.

875
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:16,400
Speaker 1: Who was the most rebellious? I think I was alex

876
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:19,400
Speaker 1: Is do you agree with this? I'd agree that she

877
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 1: got caught being rebellious, but I don't know if she

878
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:25,320
Speaker 1: was more rebellious, who would make it further on Survivor.

879
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 1: It's a good question, alex Oh, this is a good question.

880
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 1: Are you Nina's Bordi? Alex Oh, yeah, uh, we're We're

881
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 1: actually like pretty like equal in terms of sports. We've

882
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 1: done tough mutters and spartan races. And Nina can hang,

883
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:47,439
Speaker 1: Nina can Youna can get out there. It's her mental game.

884
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:49,800
Speaker 1: I can usually talk her out of if we do

885
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 1: like a plank challenge, I'll just talk her down and

886
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 1: she'll just she'll drop around like a minute or two. Yeah,

887
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 1: she can definitely hang first job, it's kind of the

888
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:10,839
Speaker 1: same sort of but he cheated so I didn't get

889
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:14,439
Speaker 1: paid for it. Alex's first job was a paper route,

890
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 1: and when you do paper routes, they deliver like each

891
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 1: section in separate piles, so you have to assemble each

892
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 1: each paper before delivering it. And so he got the

893
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 1: job to do that. But he made me assemble all

894
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 1: the papers for the night when they would arrive, and

895
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 1: then he would go out and deliver them in the mornings.

896
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 1: Would you would get any You wouldn't get any cut. No.

897
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 1: I thought it was a fun game and a connectivity

898
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 1: that we got to do together. Paid that's good. Yeah,

899
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 1: Alex was using your need for acceptance to get ship done.

900
00:54:55,239 --> 00:55:00,839
Speaker 1: Smart correct. Who is the tattletale Ye who is more

901
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 1: of a daredevil these days actually, like she'd jump off

902
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:10,360
Speaker 1: cliffs that I hesitate, I mean into like a body

903
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 1: of water. Yeah. Yeah, she's done some high ones when

904
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know if I trust myself. Yeah,

905
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,799
Speaker 1: But honestly, these days I am slowing down a little bit,

906
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 1: especially because it's like the company that I keep now,

907
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 1: Like I'm not trying to keep up with Oh, he

908
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 1: goes so extreme that I'm like, yeah, you know what,

909
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:34,839
Speaker 1: Like in every relationship there has to be the one

910
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 1: crazy one in that way, and right, oh, you've met

911
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:41,719
Speaker 1: your man. You found the crazier ones, and now you

912
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 1: can just be chill. Yeah, you're like, I think you're

913
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 1: just gonna go grab a beer and let you do

914
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 1: whatever the hell it is, whatever you're gonna go do.

915
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 1: Who is your guys first celebrity crush? It's the same,

916
00:55:56,760 --> 00:56:01,359
Speaker 1: It hasn't changed for me. Brad Pitt. Yes, how did

917
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:06,319
Speaker 1: you know? Well, because he's so hot. He is, I mean,

918
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 1: he's he's he's more hot now than I think he

919
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 1: even was. I mean, the guy looks so good. I

920
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 1: like him as an older man, like I'm feeling him

921
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 1: as an older dude. You know, he's aging gracefully though,

922
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, you know, he's a smoke show.

923
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 1: If I was one, am I I'm binary? Right? Oh

924
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 1: you're sis? I think I'm buying. Am I binary? I'm sis?

925
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 1: Non binary? If I was non binary, you don't you

926
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:45,439
Speaker 1: don't know what you're talking about, right. Non Binary means

927
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 1: you don't identify with a gender, A specific gender Okay,

928
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 1: you're you are a you. That's god, You're so what

929
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:57,840
Speaker 1: I have to be by to be with sexual is

930
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 1: a sexual preference of both male and female. So what

931
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 1: if I just wanted to be only with Brad Pitt

932
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 1: and nobody else and you're gay? No no, no, I

933
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 1: mean women, but like just Brad Pitt is the man part.

934
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:13,840
Speaker 1: Oh well, then you're bisexual with Brad Pitt. Okay, so

935
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:15,799
Speaker 1: maybe that should be an that should maybe that should

936
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 1: be another category, like a whole old category is just

937
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 1: you're straight but only bisexual with b B What is

938
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 1: the bsw BT BP? Can you just promise me that

939
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 1: when you promote this episode that that's the clip that

940
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 1: you that Oh my god, okay, what about you? You

941
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 1: got the first celebrity crush? Do you guys watch Beautiful Mind? Oh? Yeah?

942
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:58,439
Speaker 1: How gorgeous was Jennifer Jennifer Connley? Yeah? Oh god, look

943
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 1: at your face. It's so creepy. When he said that

944
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 1: he's feeling it right now as we it's feeling it down.

945
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 1: But have you seen Opportunity Knocks? No? Okay, Jennifer, Beauty

946
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 1: Conley is insane, you know, but do yourself a favorite.

947
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 1: Go watch opportunity knocks. Well before beautiful, mind she's beautiful,

948
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 1: and then she's she was great. She's a great actress.

949
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 1: Opportunity knocks. Just hit me up once you watch that.

950
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 1: She's just very sexy in it. She holds up though.

951
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 1: She looks beautiful and is aging really gracefully as well. Okay, guys,

952
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 1: next one, Uh, who's wittier? Definitely goofier, I'll take that

953
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 1: for sure. Okay, you're robbing a bank. Who's actually robbing

954
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 1: the bank? Who's in the getaway car driving the car?

955
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 1: I'm in the bank. How you're not mean enough? Well,

956
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 1: but I'm an actor, like I can pretend to do

957
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 1: whatever like I can. I can, I can commit to

958
00:58:55,920 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 1: the role of being a bad guys. Take it in

959
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 1: the cars, just hanging out. Who is the favorite child?

960
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 1: He's the firstborn, firstborn son, for sure. Yeah, he carries

961
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 1: on the family doing bad things. Oh yeah, you know. Yeah.

962
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 1: Favorite mantra or life lesson? Don't jump off the second

963
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 1: story to scare your friends. Yeah, that's really for me.

964
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 1: That would be is very good advice for anybody out there. Alex,

965
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 1: I'll try anything twice. Oh interesting, is there no butts?

966
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 1: Or unless whoa who can drink more? Oh, interesting question.

967
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 1: What point of our lives are we And I'm just

968
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 1: saying's just general. Who could drink and wake up? And

969
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 1: you're going shot for shot right now? Like, yeah, I

970
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 1: only asked this casina. You seem who's got a better

971
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 1: constitution for you know, having a good fun night out,

972
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 1: Like I have a better one than Oliver. I get well,

973
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 1: I go nuts, but I just get hung over. It

974
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 1: goes hard. But she's more disciplined, like she'll know when

975
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 1: to stop. Yeah, I don't take it overboard, but she's

976
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 1: definitely more disciplined. Oliver at like Riders eighteenth was like

977
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 1: so wasted. He was like wandering around my front yard.

978
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 1: Well not because I didn't need to ride home. I

979
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 1: walked home. I wanted to go home. At one point parents,

980
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 1: I think maybe it was Danny was like Oliver is

981
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 1: just like walking in the I was waiting Mom and pop.

982
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 1: It was just our family. Yeah, but they were still partying.

983
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 1: They were it was like midnight. I wanted to go home,

984
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 1: and I walked home. It took me forty minutes, like

985
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 1: walking in the rain. Yeah, I went into the gross

986
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 1: to see if I could find a bike, but all

987
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 1: your tires were flat on your bikes, so I just walked.

988
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 1: Oh that's what you were doing. You had to go

989
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:58,560
Speaker 1: find a bike. It's so funny, Danny, have you ever

990
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 1: heard of like all shoveled? I forgot about uber. But

991
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 1: we're also like so close to each other's like to

992
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 1: get an uber to go to mom's she's literally like

993
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 1: ten blocks from my house. Yeah, but it still it

994
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 1: took a half hour. I was gonna say why well,

995
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 1: and it was. It's it's a two mile, you know,

996
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 1: it's three It was kind of nice. Oh, oh my god,

997
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 1: I'm sloppy in any way. I mean, you would never

998
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:35,280
Speaker 1: even know I was. I was Okay, Okay, last question, Allie,

999
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 1: do you want to because I always forget it? Okay.

1000
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:40,600
Speaker 1: So it's a two part question, Nina. You go first

1001
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 1: about your brother. So the two parts are, what is

1002
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 1: it about your brother that you would want to relieve

1003
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 1: from him that you think like something you could alleviate

1004
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:54,760
Speaker 1: that you think would kind of help him in his

1005
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 1: life or make kind of the quality of his life easier, better,

1006
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 1: more liberating. Okay. And then the other part of the

1007
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:05,160
Speaker 1: question is is what is something that you would love

1008
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 1: to emulate something equality that he has that you wish

1009
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:14,000
Speaker 1: you had more of. Okay, so the first one's easy.

1010
01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:18,320
Speaker 1: I would like to alleviate him of me. That would

1011
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:20,760
Speaker 1: be that would probably make his life infinitely about No,

1012
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 1: I'm kidding, you know, Alex has and I hope this

1013
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:29,600
Speaker 1: is okay to say, don't get about at me, But

1014
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:34,000
Speaker 1: like I think, because you care so much sometimes about

1015
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:37,720
Speaker 1: certain things, if if if that's being challenged, the thing

1016
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:41,000
Speaker 1: that you care about is being challenged, you like shut

1017
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 1: down a little bit and you get very defensive and

1018
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:48,120
Speaker 1: they can't hear what's happening, and it takes you a

1019
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:50,920
Speaker 1: second to cool off. And I wish I wish that

1020
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:55,200
Speaker 1: he had no I'm being honest, I'm sorry. I wish

1021
01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:59,520
Speaker 1: that he was able to like breathe through a moment

1022
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:02,920
Speaker 1: to get to the next moment, to realize, like to

1023
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:06,560
Speaker 1: have a little bit more perspective at times. And it

1024
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 1: hasn't happened to us in a really long time. So

1025
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:11,000
Speaker 1: this isn't I don't know if it even it still

1026
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:17,520
Speaker 1: is a thing, but like breathing through moments to yeah,

1027
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:21,120
Speaker 1: to like to give perspective, because you know, we all

1028
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 1: get like that, we all get so like hot when

1029
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:25,720
Speaker 1: something's there's a challenging moment, like I do it too,

1030
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:29,520
Speaker 1: so I'm definitely projecting my own stuff as well. Like

1031
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:31,800
Speaker 1: there's not a human on the earth that doesn't do this,

1032
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 1: But in the moment, you get so hot and you

1033
01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:39,440
Speaker 1: can't think of anything, you have no perspective. And I

1034
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 1: wish I could alleviate him of the same thing that

1035
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:44,560
Speaker 1: I wish I could alleviate for myself, which is to

1036
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:49,960
Speaker 1: take a deep breath and have perspective in the situation

1037
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:53,560
Speaker 1: that I always have about twenty minutes later, you know. Yeah,

1038
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 1: there's a lot of power and witnessing moments rather than

1039
01:03:57,920 --> 01:03:59,919
Speaker 1: reacting to that. And I think as we get older,

1040
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:02,480
Speaker 1: we get better at it, like I think he's gotten

1041
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:03,960
Speaker 1: That's why I said, I don't know if he still

1042
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:05,880
Speaker 1: does it anymore, because I haven't seen it in so long.

1043
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 1: It was like a like ten years ago observation. But

1044
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 1: so maybe it's not even a thing anywhere. I don't know.

1045
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:18,360
Speaker 1: And what about emulate. I would love to emulate. There's

1046
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 1: like a youthfulness about Alex and a charisma and an

1047
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:28,600
Speaker 1: energy that he has that I've literally never brought him

1048
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:32,680
Speaker 1: anywhere with me where everyone didn't love him, like right now,

1049
01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:34,840
Speaker 1: Like he's like your observation about how he has like

1050
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 1: the headset on he's in office, it looks kind of serious,

1051
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:40,000
Speaker 1: but he's not like that in real life, and and

1052
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:45,400
Speaker 1: he's more like Gill relax and so it doesn't. And

1053
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:49,000
Speaker 1: I always tell people whatever. I'm like, hey can my

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Speaker 1: brother come? Or like, hey, my brother's coming. I'll be

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Speaker 1: like just so you know, like I know you've met him,

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Speaker 1: but he's hands down the better doughbra of like everyone's

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Speaker 1: there's no argument, Like he's the cooler, more accepted people

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Speaker 1: love him. So I wish I could emulate that that

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Speaker 1: like innate inner confidence that he has. Yeah, that's how

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Speaker 1: all he feels about me. I think the opposite. I

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Speaker 1: was relating so much to how she was talking to

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Speaker 1: her brother, like you know, I'm like, this is me

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Speaker 1: feels with me. I'm like, you know, she's got all,

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Speaker 1: She's got the money and the fame and all this stuff,

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Speaker 1: and I'm just like a great guy, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 1: people just want me around. It's okay, It's true. That's

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Speaker 1: and I can dance. Oh I can dance, Okay, Alex,

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Speaker 1: what I want to emulate, I'll go first, on that one,

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Speaker 1: Nina's got a really like she got this innate waye

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Speaker 1: or just open up a set. She can open up

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Speaker 1: a conversation or a crowd with this just authentic way

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Speaker 1: that I kind of sometimes I watch from the distance,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, that's impressive. Like she cold opened three people,

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Speaker 1: were six people at one time. And I've seen it.

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Speaker 1: I've seen her done do it in Monaco, in London, England,

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Speaker 1: in all over the States, in Montreal, like she she

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Speaker 1: dials it in and just knocks out of the park.

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Speaker 1: So I'm I'm always impressed and I like watching her

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Speaker 1: do that. And then to alleviate h thought about this

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Speaker 1: a little bit because I did some research on your Guys'

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Speaker 1: podcast before. You guys always ask these questions. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: so yeah, and that one. I think it's I want

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Speaker 1: to alleviate her from some of the disgenuine conversations or

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Speaker 1: people that she has to work with in in her

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Speaker 1: like line of work. I find that and I've just

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Speaker 1: been a witness to it, where there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: just happy people that don't usually tell her the truth

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Speaker 1: about something. And uh, but that's not always the case,

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Speaker 1: but once in a while, I kind of cringe. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that person is like not telling her

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Speaker 1: the truth right now. She they're just being they just

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Speaker 1: want to like tell her good like good news. But

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Speaker 1: are you saying that you do you not think Nina

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Speaker 1: is aware that they might be bullshitting her. I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying they're bullshitting her. They just they could have given

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Speaker 1: her more, yeah, better feedback. I got it because I've

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Speaker 1: overheard conversations and the person is just they're being a

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Speaker 1: little wishy washy. They're just telling her like Californian positivity,

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Speaker 1: like you could have been a better helper there, right,

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Speaker 1: like that all we all need to be a little

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Speaker 1: bit more upfront, honestly, except for me. Except for me.

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Speaker 1: I love that, Alice. I mean I I I pride

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Speaker 1: myself and I try to not be around yes people

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Speaker 1: as much as I can, and every now and then,

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Speaker 1: like somebody will sneak in and you I feel like

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Speaker 1: I'm really good at that, but I'm sure I'm not

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Speaker 1: perfect at it, and I would like to challenge you

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Speaker 1: in the future to let me know when you see

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Speaker 1: that that's happening, please do it good. I like this.

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Speaker 1: I like this. We have accomplished we did. We brought

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Speaker 1: we just brought them closer. I think we did. That's

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Speaker 1: the goal. Well, thank you for your time you guys.

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Speaker 1: Good luck with the baby man, appreciate it. Congratulations, guys,

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Speaker 1: this is really fun. Oh wait, can I show you

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Speaker 1: guys one thing before we go, just to give you,

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Speaker 1: just to show you, you know, like a nugget of it.

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Speaker 1: Was my birthday yesterday, birthday. Thank you. This is you know,

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Speaker 1: real time example of what my brother and I are like.

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Speaker 1: This is what my brother sent me for my birthday,

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Speaker 1: sent me these beautiful flowers with a note that says

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Speaker 1: elegant birthday flowers for a slightly less elegant birthday girl.

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Speaker 1: And then he got me beef jerky with this audit.

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Speaker 1: Thank you giving us over goron. That's fucking funny. Oh

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Speaker 1: so that's the kind of relationship we have, all right, guys,

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you for talking to you guys. Good

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Speaker 1: mean you see you soon. Sibling Revelry is executive produced

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Speaker 1: by Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson. Producer is Alison. President,

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Speaker 1: editor is Josh Wendish. Music by Mark Hudson aka Uncle Mark.

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