1 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: Live on location with another Knuckleheads classic this week, Yore Black, 2 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: who we. 3 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 2: Got We're looking back on the episode with Grandmama aka 4 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 2: Larry Johnson. Man, it was a good one. This was 5 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 2: my all time favorite. I member when everybody used to 6 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 2: wear the U N l V cloth. Then when they 7 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:29,319 Speaker 2: came out and they was killing they beat Duke in 8 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:33,239 Speaker 2: the championship. Man like man talk about his nickname, just 9 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 2: like all the commercials. 10 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 3: He used to do. 11 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: Man, that's the reason I used to wear the part 12 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: of the middle, bro Larry Johnson l J. Part of 13 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: the middle when I had some hair on my head 14 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 1: that I was trying to do that now. 15 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 3: We say with the gold tief in the league, right Hey, Man, listen. 16 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: The dope thing for me was, like you said, Man, 17 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: just being able to go talk to a dude that 18 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: we looked up to in a certain way. 19 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. On the low, you know, 20 00:00:57,680 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 3: I was just short forward. 21 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: I used to try and count do some of the 22 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: things that LJ d nowhere near his explosive. But you 23 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like this was a dope one too, 24 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: because I felt like, you know, people don't really talk 25 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 1: a lot about LJ. He don't get a lot of 26 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: love like I know how we in the NBA MA 27 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:14,759 Speaker 1: Attorney feel about a lot outside of. 28 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:16,759 Speaker 2: The man was watching him, Man, a lot of them 29 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 2: early ninety players was watching him. 30 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 3: Do his thing. 31 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: Man, for sure, him and you starting off with UNLV 32 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: with him Grant, you know, Greg, Anthony and y'all, but 33 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: they did, and then how he took it to Charlotte 34 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: and kept going through the league all the way to 35 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 1: the LJ symbols for the three at the Knicks. 36 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 4: Man. 37 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 3: So yeah, man, this was a dope one man. 38 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 1: This was this episode in June twenty second, twenty twenty one. Man, 39 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: y'all tap in and tell us what y'all think about 40 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: Grandma Ma Ma LJ. 41 00:01:44,360 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 5: Baby. 42 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 2: First off, Man, it's an honor and a pleasure. Like man, 43 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 2: you one the ones that we watched yay high and 44 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 2: the reason that my voice went it was powerful is yours. 45 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 2: But I used to holler after I dunk because because 46 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 2: you hollered after you dunk. But man, it's a pleasure, 47 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:22,679 Speaker 2: and thank you for you know, coming on here and 48 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 2: rocking with us. 49 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 6: Man. We definitely appreciate. 50 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 3: Doctor Young, I appreciate y'all. Man. 51 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 2: First question we want to ask is when you first 52 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 2: got to the league, who's the first person to bust 53 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 2: your ass? 54 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 4: That rookie year man I was doing to the frying 55 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 4: pop pop pod. So I took I took a beat, 56 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 4: I took a bing. You know, I was drafted by 57 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 4: Charlotte and I'm, you know, number one pick. So it 58 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 4: was like, then you go thirty five minutes a game, 59 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 4: whether you owner, you off. 60 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 3: So yo. 61 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 4: I took some head banging at Detroit. I remember playing 62 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 4: Detroit for the first time. Dennis Robin mm hmmm. I 63 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 4: left the game fellas floody lipped up. 64 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I need some mice after that game. 65 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:09,519 Speaker 1: Yo yo yo, Live on location, Me and the Blackest 66 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: One aka d Miles. We are still here in Orlando, 67 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 1: keeping it cozy and safe at home. This one is 68 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: so special, y'all. I know we say that all the time, 69 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: but y'all don't know. This is my childhood. I used 70 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: to wear my haircut like this, man. This is this 71 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: is the legendary OG fall away from South Dallas to 72 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: U n l V, to Charlotte to the Dream Team 73 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 1: to the New York City Nicks, and it's our og. 74 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: Big brother Larry grandma, mind chance, we appreciate you for 75 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: joining us OG. 76 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 3: This is huge, fellas, come on, he me God. 77 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 2: So you came up in South Dallas and how was 78 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 2: that come up for you? 79 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 4: Same as your hood? You know what I'm saying. Cute 80 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 4: hood just just a hood fan, you know how we 81 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 4: came up. I was a gym rap, just like the youngster, 82 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 4: So lived in the gym and you know, it was 83 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 4: gunfire every night. 84 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 3: And you know, people don't think Texas is like that, 85 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 3: but it is. 86 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like when did you know that basketball was something 87 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 2: that you can get away from this? Because I know 88 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 2: for me, it was like, man, that was my pace 89 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:45,799 Speaker 2: of peace. And then when I realized I was good 90 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 2: and gifted, it was like, man, I can go somewhere. 91 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 2: I'm going to different states hooping. Like when did it 92 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 2: turn around for you? 93 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 4: You know what it was like I said, growing up 94 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 4: in that type of environment. Don't know my pop never 95 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 4: met pop. So it was always being a knucklehead. I say, 96 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 4: y'all got your shirts on, but. 97 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 3: Uh yeah, been a young knucklehead man. 98 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 4: I was into all sports and I was a When 99 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 4: you're from Texas, you know you're about to say you 100 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 4: had to be playing football. 101 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 3: You built like a lineback of somebody out here. Matter 102 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 3: if you Texas, you know you're gonna get it. We're 103 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 3: at four years old. 104 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 4: You get a whole dollas cowboy that uniformed me four 105 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 4: years old. 106 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 3: He not another Cowboys fan. 107 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 4: Man, I'm not a fan, but you gonna get that. 108 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 4: You're gonna get that at Dallars. So okay, I played 109 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 4: all the sports man, and it's like it was my 110 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 4: it was my seat my high school year, my freshman 111 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 4: year when I knew basketball was the way I for So, at. 112 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 1: What point did you become with like were you always 113 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 1: this man amongst boys? 114 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 3: Figure? 115 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: At what point did that because like you know, when 116 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: you when we seen you at UNLV and ever since, 117 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: it was like this big, huge man town. Where when 118 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 1: did that physique and all of that take for him? 119 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 7: And have. 120 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 3: You know what it is? Man? 121 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 4: I think it's the football background, because you know, I 122 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 4: don't have the hype. I was always you know, their 123 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 4: cast is like six seven, but I was always wide. 124 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:09,799 Speaker 3: I was always wide, so I had their low center 125 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 3: of gravity. 126 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 4: And being from Texas, one thing we produced, we produce 127 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 4: power for us, right right, Dennis Robber myself Kurt Thomas. 128 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,359 Speaker 4: You know what I mean, LaMarcus Olders were gonna produce 129 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 4: some power for us, Chris Bosh because yea low and banged. 130 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: Let me let me ask you this, speaking on your 131 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 1: size and the whole man child and the strength thing. 132 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: What do you think when you see and you hear 133 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 1: about the comparisons to you and Zion because the same 134 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: type of you know, the height, not real tall, but 135 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: he's wide and unbelievably strong, and you are extremely athletic 136 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: and he's extremely athletic. What do you think of those 137 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: comparisons to you and him? 138 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 3: You know, I see the comparison. 139 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 4: I mean with the body style, the body type, and 140 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 4: we both down, low, banging, definitely see the comparison. 141 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 3: It's just you know, Zion left handed, and I just. 142 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 4: Think, like if I wish I could talk to if 143 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 4: I give him a shoutout, just as eighteen he needed 144 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 4: like seventeen eighteen for the man. 145 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 3: He's deadly. 146 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 4: Now league has changed, man, even when you guys in 147 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 4: the league, you guys, they're not doing too much of 148 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 4: that now. So Gion the breath of first year for 149 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 4: somebody like me to come in there and just bully ball. Yes, 150 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 4: over in about a year or two. But you know, 151 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:22,239 Speaker 4: right now, if he but if he needs get seventeen 152 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 4: eighteen for. 153 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 3: A consistent one. Huh yeah. 154 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, well he's just knocking down. You guys can't back up, 155 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 4: becau if I was playing him now, I'm gonna back up. 156 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:31,239 Speaker 4: I'm making shooting everything. 157 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: His field goal percentage is like out of this planet 158 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: right now, he's he's running around like with shock type 159 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: numbers on the field goal percent is wise. 160 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 6: So it's like that basket. 161 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, dominant straight, dominant ball enough the paint, he never leaves. 162 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 3: I wouldn't either. You're gonna stop me. I feel him. 163 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, when you was coming up, who was the player 164 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 2: that you were saying early on that you was like, man, 165 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 2: I want to be like that, or I'm padding to 166 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 2: my game, or I'm watching him every time I see 167 00:07:58,880 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 2: him play. 168 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 3: It was Doctor. 169 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 6: It was Doctor. 170 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I was a Doctor fan again, been 171 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 4: from Texas. You're a football guy and dumb. I just 172 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 4: had to watch, just had to watch basketball. You really 173 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 4: had to get into basketball, and I didn't miss it. 174 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,239 Speaker 4: I didn't miss a doctor. I didn't miss the Doctor. 175 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 4: And then once I got in like high school in 176 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 4: college you know, Mike, Mike became Mike, So I hate 177 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 4: to admit that, but. 178 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 6: But like you went to JUCO. 179 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 3: Rouh. 180 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 2: You went from high school, you went to JUCO and 181 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 2: then I know a lot of cats that go to 182 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 2: JUCO when they finally get a chance to kind of 183 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 2: get with a nice college to get on their stage. 184 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 2: How was it for you when you chose U NLV. 185 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 2: It was like you had something to prove. They're like, man, 186 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 2: I'm one the best in the country. Y'all don't even 187 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 2: know me. 188 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely, I took the big name coming out of 189 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 4: high school. Now, out of high school, I played in 190 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 4: both of the McDonald's game oh and I got in 191 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 4: one and run up in the other ones. So they 192 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 4: knew my name then. But you know, they had to 193 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 4: thing called sat and I wasn't ready for. 194 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 3: Either. I wasn't ready for it. 195 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 4: So like, yeah, bro, you gotta go to junior college. Yeah, yeah, 196 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 4: I know. I had something to prove. And I missed 197 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:11,719 Speaker 4: Stacey y'all. 198 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 3: I went to U n LB. I missed Stacey Off. 199 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:14,199 Speaker 6: Plastic Man. 200 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 2: That's one of the really really dude I ever met 201 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,199 Speaker 2: in my life. 202 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 3: Plastic Man, that's who I watched plastic Man. That's what 203 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 3: I got. Oh gee, look cute, I got it If 204 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 3: I got it with that. 205 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 6: One, Yeah, that's my guy. 206 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, man, that's kind of the hardest. 207 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 6: Now bro, Yeah, real man, I love plastic Man. 208 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 3: But we met like on a junior Olympic team, you know, 209 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 3: in the summer time. Yeah. 210 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 4: I played on a couple of those teams, and that's 211 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 4: when I first met Ice. First message, I'm like, man, 212 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 4: what are you going to school? He's like, I'm in Vegas, blood, 213 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 4: I'm the junior college. 214 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 3: You know. 215 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 4: Shoot, that's something I saw them. I think they lost 216 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 4: the seat hall in the eight Elite eight. I said, Man, 217 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 4: if we go there, I went. So I called it. 218 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 4: They didn't even really wasn't even recruiting me. 219 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 3: Fam. 220 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 4: They didn't know if they thought I was gonna stay 221 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 4: in doubts, stay in tech. Oh so you called them up? 222 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like a man, what's up? Man? Coach is taking. 223 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: How was it for you when you you know the 224 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 1: meet target developed that relationship with him. 225 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 4: Hey, hey man, it was coming from Dallas, coming from Texas, 226 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 4: small little town. It was focus shot for me. Once 227 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 4: I got to Vegas, I had to be a country boy. 228 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 4: Everywhere I went, country boy country. But yeah, all right, so. 229 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 3: I had to blow down. You know, you get in 230 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 3: trouble in Vegas, you know what I mean. 231 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I made sure try to just stay after, stay 232 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,079 Speaker 4: out the rat race man, stay out of all the 233 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 4: madness and and just focus on on basketball. 234 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 3: And once I saw we had the team to win it, 235 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 3: you just got to go for that. 236 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, when you play, you said 237 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 1: you played into McDonald's game. Did you play in it? 238 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: Did you play in one of the games with with 239 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: with the legendary Excuse me, I'm just being being being biased. 240 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: I'm from Chicago with the legendary Marcus Liberty. 241 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, mama's playing that terrible, terrible que He's terrible cute. 242 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 3: Time out. My whole senior year. 243 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: He was dime out, time out, No no markets, Liberty, 244 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: Slander will be alive. What's a tall bald like? I 245 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,959 Speaker 1: gotta tell you the story man. We got NIX tapes 246 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: of the Liberty. Hey, fagre rolling all man, come on 247 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: the story man. 248 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 4: The whole my whole senior year, he was the number 249 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:34,439 Speaker 4: one player in the in the nation, right, And I'm like, 250 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 4: I can't wait. 251 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 3: I see this cat I can't wait. And they had 252 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 3: him at six eight six nine. 253 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:41,199 Speaker 4: So I'm like, oh, you're a big dude, right, And 254 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,439 Speaker 4: I went to the McDonald's game and he was like 255 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 4: you said, Q going between his say what yo, I'm 256 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:51,959 Speaker 4: down here, sir, I get rebounds and I bag got 257 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 4: to It was a totally different game. 258 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, the game. But he was skillful. 259 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 1: Yes, yes he was. That's a legend from the from 260 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 1: the real man. Shout out Marcus Liberty. 261 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 3: Man. 262 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 2: He was a legend of Marcus Liberty played at State 263 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:09,679 Speaker 2: with a house arrests angling on this ankle. Give it out, 264 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 2: thirty the officer. I'm sitting at the end of the bit. 265 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 2: I was watching all them games. I was like, what 266 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 2: this is crazy. 267 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 3: Liberally shot time, shot time. Legend man. Look, he was skillful. 268 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 3: To you, he was skillful. But I was expect him 269 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 3: to come to the paint. He never came. I feel you, 270 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 3: I felt he listen. I felt like that about a 271 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 3: few dudes. 272 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna you know, slammer nobody, but I felt 273 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: that way when I was in high school. Once I 274 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: finally made it to a few events, I was looking like, wait, 275 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 1: he was in a slam magazine you thought. 276 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 2: Okay, I saw you, okay, but I era we used 277 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 2: to head hunt whoever was on top of the list 278 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 2: you're looking for, you trying to play running to him 279 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 2: as a tournament you can't wait to play on meet him, 280 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 2: especially if you wanted. 281 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 6: It was You're like, man, I can't wait to get 282 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 6: him for really, That's what I was like. 283 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 3: I said, I've been like you said, I've been seeing 284 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 3: Marcus the whole time. I can't wait to see this cat, right, 285 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 3: wait to see this. 286 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 2: Cat that first time you got into the tournament, first game. 287 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:10,839 Speaker 2: You know, this is like the world is seeing this 288 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 2: still with you. N l V is just you know, 289 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:15,599 Speaker 2: but the world is really seeing everybody watching at this 290 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 2: moment that that run y'all had through the tournament and 291 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 2: dominant run probably enough never be another dominant run like that. 292 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 3: How was that for you? 293 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:26,719 Speaker 2: How was that just run that y'all went through and 294 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:29,199 Speaker 2: then meeting Duke at the end and blowing the ass out? 295 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 3: So I was that. 296 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: You got so much your boys for Look, you ain't 297 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: me playing college. He can't have this type of this 298 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: dame like he. 299 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 7: You ain't got no. 300 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 3: License here like me and you me and you with 301 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 3: my scholars is playing. 302 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 6: I ain't playing college, but me and Duke got history. 303 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 3: I ain't a young fellow. 304 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 4: We got here, I got history up to very man. 305 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 4: It was again, Man, it went so fast for me. 306 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 4: It went because I went to junior college and I 307 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 4: had to. 308 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 3: Go to again. 309 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 4: The grades was killing me. So when I left junior college, 310 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 4: I didn't graduate. So I had to go right there 311 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:17,079 Speaker 4: you and l and go to summer school. So it 312 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 4: was good for me that I had no time to 313 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 4: do nothing but play ball. 314 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: And it was just. 315 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 4: And next thing I know, I was in the championship 316 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 4: with this dupe. Man, I'm telling you just went so fast, 317 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 4: Tim GERGERI tell me you're knowing. Coach Gerry pulled me 318 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 4: to the side, like, bro, I need you to do 319 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 4: this and that and in two years you'll be a millionaire. 320 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 3: All right, coach, I'm gonna do it. 321 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 4: Like man, you just need to practice this and that 322 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 4: and come to practice and stay out of the bs, 323 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 4: and you'll be a millionaire in two years. 324 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 3: You gotta coach. So I was. 325 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 4: I was a deer in headlights, man when we played 326 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 4: some cats, but I was I was prepared. I tell youngster, 327 00:14:57,720 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 4: I know we do camps. You catch do camps. So 328 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 4: I tell you just all the time. You want to 329 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 4: get rid of those jitterbugs, just this preparation. Yeah, prepare 330 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 4: and you once you get in that gym, you know 331 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 4: you done did. 332 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 3: It what you had to do. You're just gonna go fall. 333 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 6: You mean, it's gonna show. 334 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 3: I was on at. 335 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: It was it like when you got through the y'all, 336 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: you know, as a team, at some point sit back 337 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: and look at look at what y'all done, Like, yo, 338 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: we just we just ran through this thing. And then 339 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: y'all had like a squad, you know, Greg, Anthony and Hunter, 340 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: y'all had like a crew. 341 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 4: You know, when when I got back to South Dallas, 342 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 4: we mentioned South Dollars. When you get back home, it 343 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 4: takes you basketball, take us both all three of us 344 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 4: man all around the world, but you don't want to 345 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 4: go back to the crib. And there's still that passion. 346 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 4: So when I got back to the crib, it was over. Yeah, 347 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,359 Speaker 4: it was over. I knew I had won a championship, 348 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 4: swag on a million walking through like. 349 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 3: It's just South Dallas. But yeah, yeah, you know that 350 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 3: crib to see that it's different. 351 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 6: After that much dominance and you the best player on 352 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 6: the team. 353 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 3: Why not leave? 354 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 6: Why not leave that summer and come back for another year? 355 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 3: Man, Vegas was so fun. Bro, you didn't want for anything. 356 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 3: I don't want secrets. He look, man. 357 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 4: Lost Vegas, Fella. They didn't want for anything, and I 358 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 4: just I didn't. I knew, I think I had a shot. 359 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 4: I knew I was going to play in the league, 360 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 4: and I wasn't. 361 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 3: I wasn't trying to rush that. 362 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, and you wanted to fill that championship again. 363 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 3: We wanted to do that again. 364 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 4: I want, but I wouldn't want for none of My 365 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 4: mom wouldn't want for anything. So I was like, get 366 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 4: another year on this scholarship and stay here. Bro, all 367 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 4: of us can't come out of high school. Man, I 368 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 4: tell him again, Yeah, why you didn't come out? 369 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 3: Yeah we can't, just do you know? All of us 370 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 3: ain't like. 371 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 2: So the second year, the second year when y'all play 372 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 2: dominancy and but nine team see y'all, y'all, not like 373 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 2: kind of catching them really off guard. They really see y'all, 374 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,959 Speaker 2: and everybody's gonna give y'all, y'all their best shot. Their 375 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 2: best game is finna be against y'all. How was that 376 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:12,120 Speaker 2: year as a learning experience? 377 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:16,239 Speaker 4: Well, the second year we had to swagger that second year, 378 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 4: you know, shirt tail out, you know what I'm saying, 379 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 4: technical after technical, you two know, you know, we had 380 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 4: to swaggen. The second year, we everywhere we went. We 381 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:28,360 Speaker 4: knew that castles. The first year, man, we didn't see 382 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 4: that love. You know now, man, we loved y'all. Unf 383 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 4: We loved y'all. You and I didn't see the love 384 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 4: the first year we won championship. 385 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 3: You didn't see that. That's what I was about to say, like, 386 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 3: then did y'all did y'all know? 387 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 1: Did y'all were but coming in like kind of setting 388 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: trends the way that y'all were, Like, you know what 389 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,360 Speaker 1: I'm saying, y'all, y'all kind of proceeded and led into 390 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: the five five doing what they're doing. Y'all had the 391 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 1: baggy shorts and y'all had hot. 392 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 3: Pot was waring New n LB about that. 393 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 1: NFV because I feel like on he got to you know, 394 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 1: and the Brenders got the baby at the scully, you 395 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So, did y'all realize that y'all 396 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 1: was impacting the culture the way y'all were like, you know, 397 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: cause y'all was like y'all were. 398 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 3: Representing the hood. Y'all was like you said, getting tagged, 399 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:16,919 Speaker 3: y'all was. 400 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 1: Banging on people, dunking on him and wasn't afraid to 401 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 1: like say something and let them know what you do. 402 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: And that was real representative of you know, where we 403 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 1: come from, what we see every day. So that was 404 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: like something that us we could grab hold to and 405 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: say that could be us one day. Like we looking 406 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: at y'all like, man, well I'm about to like you 407 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Like you see how you got excited, 408 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: Well you said stay y'all like that was how we 409 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:42,360 Speaker 1: felt about those teams, y'all the fanan fire like y'all did. 410 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 3: That for us. Did y'all realize that y'all were doing 411 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 3: that as it was happening? No, crazy, you just focus 412 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 3: on doing it and I see it and young fellers 413 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 3: believe me. Man, Thank you too. I'm real talk Thank 414 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 3: you too because it means a lot you. 415 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know how to express it, but 416 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 4: and then you when new ya's do y'all like that, 417 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 4: You'll know what I'm saying. 418 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:06,640 Speaker 3: Man, I was watching y'all watch damn. Thanks bro, thanks man. 419 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 3: But you didn't realize that. 420 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 4: You didn't realize that you were just like if you 421 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 4: look at that UNLV team both years, everybody is from 422 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:15,439 Speaker 4: from the. 423 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 3: Hood, man, DC, you know, Brooklyn, New York. 424 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 4: Everybody around the way. And then once we got on 425 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 4: the court, talking like no, no, no, no, no no, 426 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 4: do you do whatever the you was doing? 427 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 6: Do that? 428 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 3: Do that? 429 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 4: So yeah, look, I tell people all the time, I 430 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 4: couldn't have played the dude. I couldn't have went to 431 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 4: Duke and play ball. 432 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 3: You know what I mean. I couldn't have been in 433 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:37,360 Speaker 3: that structure. 434 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 4: I mean I I mean I ain't down in the structure, 435 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 4: but I strived in something that was more, you know, 436 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 4: more to my to my element. More loose talk. Do 437 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 4: co talk like we man, y'all love co coach talk 438 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 4: cuts you out, you cut up. Now, you go out 439 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 4: there and do your job. 440 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 3: We're good. Yeah. But U n LV. 441 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 2: I got a U n LV hat right now, because now, y'all, 442 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 2: you n LV, you gotta have a sweatshirt. 443 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 6: Or a hat like you gotta rock that because y'all 444 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 6: like the coaches, y'all. 445 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:07,719 Speaker 3: It was a symbol. 446 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 1: It was like sign at the time, Like I worked 447 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: with g A on NBA TV and everything, and I 448 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 1: be I'll be messing with him all the time, like yo, man, 449 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 1: Like y'all was some bad boys back there, Like y'all 450 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 1: had the hood going crazy. 451 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 4: Like you said, you mentioned Hop and Snoop. They was 452 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 4: on the front row of Long Beach, were playing Long 453 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 4: Beach and Long Beach or scron Beach for this, whichever 454 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,719 Speaker 4: one y'all want to call it. Okay, you're playing Scrone 455 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 4: Beach and I'm. 456 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 3: And the like that so and so that song. So 457 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:38,439 Speaker 3: now should was with them and should play football at 458 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 3: un l V. I don't know if you catch that. 459 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah I did. Yeah, yeah. 460 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 4: He was about two years ahead of me, but he 461 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:45,959 Speaker 4: was playing football at un LV, so he got him 462 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 4: at the game. They sitting on the front road, but 463 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 4: they wasn't snooping pocket at the time, so all the 464 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 4: way Yeah yeah, yeah, come out with their mama and 465 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 4: Snoop calls. 466 00:20:56,480 --> 00:21:00,160 Speaker 3: I was like, yo, I catch on game, right, That's 467 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 3: that's that's crazy. 468 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 6: That's a crazy story. 469 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 2: The gold teeth, Like you reminded me of somebody from 470 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 2: my hood, like my uncle or somebody. 471 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,959 Speaker 6: You had to gold teeth. I ain't never seen nobody 472 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 6: else in the league or nobody ever be. 473 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 2: Out there with no goal too, Like anybody ever mentioned 474 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 2: that try to get you to take your goal tooth 475 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 2: out and and all that. It just seems so authentic 476 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 2: and real. I'm so happy that you kept it and 477 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 2: just kept it real. 478 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 3: Like when I said that came from South took it 479 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 3: out here. You know it was a cap so funny 480 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:42,120 Speaker 3: pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop. Yeah, anytime, 481 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 3: So that's what happened. 482 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 6: Just that was one of the realest things ever. 483 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 2: And your boy, you know, your boy, when he was 484 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 2: in high school, he used to have that part up 485 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 2: the middle. 486 00:21:52,480 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 7: You know why we got that, you know, right draft 487 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 7: the middle you know J. 488 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 1: It's googleable, you can check it right now. I was 489 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: in the league, right I'm talking about many years in 490 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 1: the NBA. Yeah, he had to part up the middle. Oh, 491 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: we've been doing this since high school. We've been doing 492 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: it whole life. Rocket and I'm talking about real talk. 493 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: You can check it out. 494 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 3: You can check it out to this day. 495 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,959 Speaker 1: I had that demo the LJ grandmo J brought up 496 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 1: the middle man everything that's crazy to get. 497 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 2: Drafted number one, Like you'd accomplished all this in college 498 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 2: and now it's time to go and you know now 499 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 2: you're finna really play with the men, like to get 500 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 2: drafted number one? 501 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 3: Like, how was that? Like? 502 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 2: The draft and dream come true? From South Dallas? You 503 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 2: know when we ain't have a chance to do nothing 504 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 2: and you the number one pick in the world. You're 505 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 2: for your family to see how proud your family is 506 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 2: for you and all that. 507 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 6: Just that experience. I know how it was with me, 508 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 6: but how was it for you? 509 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 3: It was again, it was a blur. It was was 510 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 3: you got with both your draft in New York. 511 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: I got drafted from Minnesota. Oh okay, No, we was 512 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: in New York. Man, we was in and you were 513 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: just yeah man, and I was shipping. And then once 514 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: you drafted. Once, once I got drafted, I had it 515 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: was it was like interview after interview. So I was 516 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 1: just running around, but I couldn't wait. We went out 517 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: that night. We did what we needed to do. 518 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 3: We did, we did, we get. 519 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 4: That's that night, man, we got together, and I was 520 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 4: a square. People don't know this now, people don't know 521 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 4: this young fellows, But I was a square all through 522 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 4: college because of coach Gerd and taught I was just 523 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,479 Speaker 4: a square, no this and that, other than women, other 524 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 4: than chasing females, female everything else. It was just basketball. 525 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 4: So once we got drafted, man me, Stacy, Billy always. 526 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 4: I think it was Kenny Anderson did Ken Bay. It 527 00:23:58,200 --> 00:23:59,880 Speaker 4: was like eight nine of us went to a little 528 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 4: five and jay Z all them castles in the spots. 529 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 4: But of course we just got drafted. So we was 530 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 4: the big ship, the big ship. 531 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: You know. 532 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 3: It was a blurt. It was just a blurt. 533 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,640 Speaker 2: It said when you came out, you wanted to side 534 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 2: with Nike, Like you say, like you was a Nike player, 535 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 2: And I don't understand why you went with Nike, but 536 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 2: I'm so glad that you was with Converse because y'all 537 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 2: made history with everything that you did. 538 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 6: So how was it not going with Nike? Probably how 539 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 6: you wanted to, but creating history with Converse? 540 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,479 Speaker 3: You Hey, hey, I think he retired you guys. Ever 541 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 3: heard of Sonny Bank. 542 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 2: Carl Yeah, yeah, yeah, he was in the era of us. 543 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,360 Speaker 2: He was trying to Indeta's a Nike war. 544 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 3: I didn't know that. I didn't know that you and 545 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 3: l V was a Nike team. Yeah, And money was 546 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 3: I rep and Sonny called me. 547 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 4: I was drafting number one and Sonny called me like 548 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 4: a month later because I'm studying, calling like, yo, what's 549 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 4: up on the contract? I'm talking the Nike. I'm talking 550 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 4: to Sonny and I'm letting him know I want to 551 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 4: come to Nike. But Sonny was just he started not 552 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 4: taking my calls then, and you know, not calling me back. 553 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 3: And I'm right, I. 554 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 4: Picked and he not calling me back all of a sudden. 555 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 4: After month he called me and he was like so 556 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 4: like Meek on the fun he was back one pick. 557 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 3: What's going on? He said, Man, Nike don't think you'll 558 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 3: be a good pro. I said what he said, Man, 559 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 3: Nike don't want to sign. They don't think you'll be 560 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 3: a good pro. I wasn't mad at that. I was 561 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 3: just number one pick. I wouldn't mad. I like know 562 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 3: where about that sunny? 563 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 6: No. 564 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 4: Only time I got a little upset. They signed two 565 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 4: through fifteen, so they didn't signed one, but they signed 566 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 4: like it was either two through fifteen or two three eleven. Wow, 567 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 4: everybody under me, they signed you know, oh wow, okay, okay, okay, 568 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 4: no big deal. But converse, I thought they was in 569 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 4: cohoots with each other because converse like come on, come on, 570 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 4: we want you to do this, do that? Well, uh, 571 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 4: commercial this that, And it was about the money with 572 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 4: me at that time. I mean, you know how it 573 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,719 Speaker 4: is they make your shoe. So I was a Nike guy. 574 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 4: As long as you make me a good shoe. 575 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 6: Oh cool? 576 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 4: Well they you know, no, bit I loved it. I 577 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 4: was a little hurt that Nike said I wouldn't be 578 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 4: a good bro. 579 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I wouldn't like that. How did the whole grandma 580 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 1: my persona and everything? 581 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 6: Like? 582 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 3: How did that? Did you come up with that? Did 583 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 3: they come to you? 584 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 8: Like? 585 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 3: Who? How did all of that come about? And how 586 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 3: did they just just develop? You know? How didn't come 587 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 3: up with that? Come on now? 588 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 6: So they had to convince you of that. 589 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 3: So so right, so when they came out to you, 590 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 3: a hold on, hold on, you want me to do? 591 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 8: What? 592 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 3: What's you talk about? 593 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 7: Like? 594 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 4: They actually they hooked with me. They've been boozed me 595 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 4: to do it. Yes they did, Yes, they did. 596 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:49,640 Speaker 3: They had some yong. 597 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 4: It came about because their PR guys was like twenty five. 598 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,640 Speaker 4: So when I signed with them, I was with twenty 599 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 4: one twenty two and they pr they were doing a 600 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 4: whole makeup. They guys were like twenty four to twenty five, 601 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 4: and they didn't want to do like a basketball commercial, 602 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 4: which I wanted to do. You know, no, yo, get 603 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 4: me bro, but they wanted, Oh we got all these ideas. 604 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 4: And that's what I came about the But they hooked 605 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 4: with me when they signed me. They told me about 606 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 4: a whole nother commercial about me. Bought me Larry Bird 607 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 4: and Magic. Remember Larry birdy Magic Converse. Yeah, so when 608 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 4: they signed me, they gave me a million dollars and 609 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 4: they were like, we want to put you in a 610 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 4: commercial with Magic and Larry Bird. And I'm like, yeah, 611 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 4: come on, and I signed and like six months later, 612 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 4: I was like, yo, y'all ready to do that commercial. 613 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 4: They're like, but not that, not that, we want to 614 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 4: put you in the dress. We're gonna do this. 615 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 3: We're gonna do that. 616 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 4: I'm like, wow, And they said this. I'm gonna tell you. 617 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell the young fellas. I don't say this alive, 618 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 4: but I'm gonna tell a young fellow. I said, what 619 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,360 Speaker 4: happened to that commercial with me, Magic and Larry They said, 620 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 4: one of them guys didn't want to do Ah. 621 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 3: Man, they ain't gonna get in the commercial with the 622 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 3: young old j Yeah, yeah, they want to be in 623 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 3: a commercial with the young buck. 624 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 2: To get I know you you was kind of shaking 625 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 2: on the idea and so far phone. But I know 626 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 2: the reception you got from it, because I know everybody 627 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 2: loved Grandmama. 628 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 6: Like everybody loved Grandmama. 629 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 2: It wasn't no disrespected and it didn't seem like funny 630 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 2: because you like everybody loved Grandmama. 631 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 6: Like the reception you got from the people, how was 632 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 6: that for you? 633 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 3: They loved it? 634 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 4: Like you said, again, I want to be l J 635 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 4: to do something. You know, Mike was doing the Jordan 636 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 4: and I was killing my rookie. I got Rookie of 637 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 4: the Year second year. Yeah, like yo, what's up donna? 638 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:36,160 Speaker 8: Lie? 639 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 4: But it has been so much good feedback from the 640 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 4: Grandma mom that and I you know, I thought it. 641 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 4: I fought it like the first one or two we did. 642 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: That's what I was gonna ask like, like like was 643 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: you was you like hesitanting that? Like after you said 644 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: the first one, did you leave the shoot? 645 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 3: Like? 646 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 4: Man, I don't know that, but they kept they kept 647 00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 4: seeing me that long hand, like, oh, we got this 648 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 4: one with you. We got one with you with your 649 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 4: shirt off, we got one with you. 650 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 3: I'm like, what are we doing that one? In a minute? 651 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 3: In a minute, that's. 652 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 4: But the feedback was so and then it kept pumping 653 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 4: into money. It kept pumping in the money. So you 654 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 4: know it always you want to be an address and 655 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 4: promote that that's not what you want. 656 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 8: But it was. 657 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 3: It was in fun. 658 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 1: You know. 659 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 4: I was like, man, whatever, and I even I think 660 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 4: it was the fourth year. I was like, man, I'm 661 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 4: not doing no more brother commercial three years and I 662 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 4: told him after the third year, they want to re sign. 663 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 4: I said, we signed, but I'm not doing any more 664 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 4: Grandma my commercial. And I read it a little bit 665 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 4: because I ain't. I didn't get another contract with Converse. 666 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, read it a little bit. But you know, we lived, 667 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 3: we learned, We live in line. 668 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. 669 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 3: Living. 670 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 2: But the Grandmama Silent started making you do movies, TV 671 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 2: shows and all sorts of stuff. You did Steve Verkle, 672 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 2: you did Space Jam, which were about to get another 673 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 2: one with Lebron and you did Eddie, which is one 674 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 2: of my favorite basketball movies. 675 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,959 Speaker 1: You know ever with go Bro. How was them experiences 676 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 1: for you. Yeah, because I mean, you know, we did 677 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 1: a couple of movies and everything to. 678 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 3: Say, ain't no was we got we got little credits though, 679 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 3: we got our sad you know, were the Union. We 680 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 3: in the un Union. 681 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 1: Now you know. 682 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 3: We get like a little fourteen dollars a couple of 683 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 3: months or something. From what you're doing that. 684 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 2: Well, I was that for I was the movies for you, 685 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 2: just to do it with them type of people and 686 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 2: them type of actors. 687 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 3: Space John was cool in the game. You wouldn't believe 688 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 3: what Warner Brothers did. Mike. 689 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 4: Mike had to be in l A. He had to 690 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 4: be in Hollywood like the whole summer. So they got 691 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 4: this dude, like I think like a ten million dollar gym. 692 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 8: Man. 693 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 3: It was like called a Jordan Dome or something. 694 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 8: Right. 695 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 4: Yes, and boy, the basketball games, y'all have loved the 696 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 4: young fellers, y'all have loved it. The basketball games in 697 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 4: the evening was crazy. You know, it's LA, so all 698 00:30:58,240 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 4: the cats hang out in l As. 699 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 3: You know, every day. 700 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 4: It was a different cat in town, you know what 701 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 4: I'm saying. And the casts lived there. It was like 702 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 4: thirty thirty pros on the court. 703 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 3: Pros on the court trying. 704 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 4: To play, trying to do this cast. Look, we got 705 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 4: so we got so pissed that they be playing five 706 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:15,959 Speaker 4: oh five, but we get a three on three on man. 707 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 3: Let's play three on three over the it's all pro. 708 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, sound like it was crazy hoop right, that's crazy 709 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 6: sound It was. 710 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 4: Mike at the top of this game. So whoever he 711 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 4: called to come through, he was coming through, you know. 712 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 4: But what they built him, it was unbelievable. They had 713 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 4: like everybody had their own trailer. So you got your 714 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 4: all said, with like twenty trailers, it looks like your 715 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 4: crib ain't the Space Jam. As far as movies, the 716 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 4: Space Jam was like the biggest ultimate like him should 717 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 4: I've seen? Earth was cool too, but it was on set, 718 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 4: it was it was cool that month I spent on 719 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 4: Space jammer crazy. 720 00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 2: How was it for your kids to watch Space Jam? 721 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 2: To see you on Space Jam? Because like kids to 722 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 2: this day is watching Space Jam like you kids? 723 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 3: You kids. 724 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 2: I just went over the other day and Q kids 725 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 2: were watching Space Jam. 726 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 3: It came out in nineties Radio getting Ready. 727 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 4: They loved it, they loved it, had their family over. 728 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 4: I mean, how they look young? Boys, over the Poppers, 729 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 4: over the h and all my sons, my three sons 730 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 4: just for they were gonna go to the NBA. So 731 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 4: that's a let down where your son don't make Yeah, 732 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 4: watch Space Jam. 733 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 3: They loved Eddie Moore. 734 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 6: Ah, Eddie was Eddie was the movie? Now you know they. 735 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 3: Shot Eddie That was a New York Knicks movie. They 736 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 3: shot that in Charlotte. 737 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 6: M M I ain't know. Yeah, the whole that was. 738 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 6: It looked like New York the whole movie. 739 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 4: You know, the Madison Square Guard and they're like, no, 740 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 4: you can't get Mason Square guards. So they couldn't, so 741 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 4: they took to Charlotte, Lorena and Chot to make it look. 742 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 3: Like Square Garden. 743 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 6: I know you said you're coming up and m J 744 00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 6: was one of them guys. So that's the first time 745 00:32:59,920 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 6: you met m J. 746 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 3: How was it? He did some bullshit he did the 747 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 3: first I met. We walked out over the court and 748 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 3: he walked straight up to me and go, how is Darthy. 749 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 3: Hear me say you any Kansas? 750 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 7: No more? 751 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 3: No, he said, how is Dorothy? That's my mom? Wow, 752 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 3: I couldn't play the whole game. Jesus like like, well, 753 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 3: I know your mama boy. 754 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 1: That's like when they say that's like when they say 755 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 1: when a smile, you got, you. 756 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 3: Got, you got. You walk up to me and asked 757 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 3: me how my mom? How my mom? 758 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 4: You know? 759 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 3: You know, went in the program. Saw my mom name 760 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 3: was Darthy, you know, win the program? You's my mom name? 761 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 3: I think I scored eight points. That's great, Mike asked 762 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 3: my mom, asked by my mom. 763 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 2: Got so y'all have a young squad. You got muggs, 764 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,880 Speaker 2: you got a Lonzo, you deal Curry, you know what 765 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 2: I'm saying. And y'all trying to make noise in this 766 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 2: league full of the bulls, the Pacers, the Knicks, you 767 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, the West Coast team and the Rockets, Lakers, 768 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 2: all this stuff. Se y'all trying to get this success. 769 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 2: I remember when y'all first made the playoffs. I won 770 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 2: that first series. I think Lonzo the hit the shot, 771 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,720 Speaker 2: like to to create that duo with you and Lonzo, 772 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 2: like a power forward center duo. You really don't see 773 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 2: too many power forward center duos. You always see a 774 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 2: guard and a big man. Like, how was that for y'all? 775 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,319 Speaker 3: You know, Ever since that little spat happened when I'm 776 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 3: in New York and Miami with like man, y'all had 777 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 3: beat y'all man, we never had beach just Searlotte. It 778 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 3: was never no beat. 779 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 4: I was my second year, his first year, it was 780 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 4: never and but we only played two years agether, but 781 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 4: it was never no beef with each other. 782 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 3: We we got along. Now we didn't go out to 783 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 3: eat after after practice after. 784 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 6: The game like many players. 785 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 4: Don't you know what I'm saying, Like number one got along. 786 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 4: We was cool and want no locker room or tching 787 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 4: or non movies a shark. It's just I'm during the 788 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,400 Speaker 4: time when I was in New York and Miami hated 789 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,800 Speaker 4: each other, and that was that pat Riley effect. 790 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:27,360 Speaker 3: I don't want to back down. He don't want to 791 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:27,799 Speaker 3: back down. 792 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 2: And we tried to win. So if I got a boat, 793 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:31,800 Speaker 2: we FRIENSDH. But if I got to boat you in 794 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 2: your face for us to go move to the next round. Q. 795 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,839 Speaker 1: People don't understand. Oh like me and him literally would 796 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:41,759 Speaker 1: have fought on the court and been cool and been 797 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 1: cooled off. 798 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,279 Speaker 2: When people you see us playing against each other, they 799 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 2: just be like. 800 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 1: Boy, don't like me, know, Yeah, it ain't like we know, 801 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 1: just no, I got to be able to talk my 802 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 1: talk when I see him this something, I gotta let 803 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:51,239 Speaker 1: him know. 804 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 805 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:53,319 Speaker 7: How fucking him up? 806 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,279 Speaker 3: Jim fuck him up? So we understand it. 807 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:01,439 Speaker 4: Same what they ain't never ay together with number no beef. 808 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 4: It's just that New York Miami thing like me. 809 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 3: Just sidebar. That was, y'all. 810 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 1: Was one of my favorite little squads on NBA jam retro. 811 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:14,319 Speaker 1: You know, classically trained, you know what I'm saying. 812 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 7: I was. 813 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 3: I hit the arcades before I was at the crib. 814 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 815 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 1: I was classically trained in this in this water, could 816 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,280 Speaker 1: war combat with this game stuff. 817 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:26,960 Speaker 2: And that Larry, that Larry Johnson pinstrip Charlotte jersey, Oh 818 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 2: my god, one of the best jersey in the history 819 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:30,920 Speaker 2: of the game. 820 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,919 Speaker 3: Still one of the one of the most worn throwbacks. 821 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 3: Straight up. 822 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 4: Look, my first three years in the league, it was 823 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 4: the number one jersey selling jersey in the league. 824 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,759 Speaker 3: My first three years right up, that was about I 825 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 3: was league. 826 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 4: The league signed the player too, like the league signed 827 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 4: a player to represent the league. And that's what that 828 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,480 Speaker 4: was about. That I was the league's player of my 829 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 4: first three years you. 830 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 3: Got thess. 831 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,800 Speaker 1: Yeah pun you like, yeah, the Golden Child, he the 832 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 1: chosen one. No, I don't know about that. I know 833 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 1: they have a new next year. You know, like, how 834 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,719 Speaker 1: was it when you first ever met Muggsy And how 835 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:13,840 Speaker 1: was it like meeting him and saying, I'm about to 836 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 1: play with Muggsy Buzzs. 837 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,319 Speaker 3: You know we called him. He ain't gonna like it now, 838 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:28,360 Speaker 3: but that was Baltimore Pill. I ain't never heard that. 839 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:30,439 Speaker 4: You remember what you just call you be more pill. 840 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 4: You don't like that, but I love Come on, man, 841 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,800 Speaker 4: they don't get no smoother. They don't get no smoother 842 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,759 Speaker 4: to this day. Uh were supposed we added to the 843 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 4: Bahamas play Golf. You know, we golfers, So we add 844 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,160 Speaker 4: it to the Bahamas play Golf. Next month, me mugged and. 845 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:46,240 Speaker 3: By three more of the guys. 846 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 6: But that's what's up. 847 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 3: He gonna cause this look. Look he gonna look at me. 848 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,400 Speaker 4: It was like the middle of the season of my 849 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 4: rookie year and I'm in the running, me the Ken 850 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,320 Speaker 4: Bay or Billy. They don't know who's gonna be Rookie 851 00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 4: of the year. He gonna come to my room in 852 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 4: the middle of each you want to be real good? Yeah, yeah, 853 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:02,279 Speaker 4: I want to be rook good of you. 854 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 3: I want to Yeah, I want to. 855 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:06,759 Speaker 4: Be rook out of here. I don't know, but I 856 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:10,320 Speaker 4: got about eight more passes from then on. No, I 857 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 4: got about eight more looks. He took care of you 858 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 4: under that, and I look your cup bucks made so 859 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:20,719 Speaker 4: that happened for it's gonna come out. Yeah, I don't 860 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,840 Speaker 4: want to be roood. Yeah, I got about eight more dimes. 861 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:24,240 Speaker 3: Baby? 862 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 1: How was it for you to sign a twelve year, 863 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:38,360 Speaker 1: eighty four million dollar bag coming from like you said, 864 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:40,399 Speaker 1: South Dallas with the gold too? 865 00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 3: How was that? 866 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,160 Speaker 1: Did you ever could you ever have even imagined, like 867 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,720 Speaker 1: you said, this little orange basketball take us all around 868 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,160 Speaker 1: the world. Could you have ever thought that you would 869 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,879 Speaker 1: have seen the type of money you've seen just from hooping. 870 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 6: May history when you got that too, ain't nobody got 871 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 6: know what bigger than that one? 872 00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 3: I walked around. I was hanging. 873 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 4: When I walked around after that, it was it was 874 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 4: all but you know better, but yeah, I was hanging, man. 875 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:16,680 Speaker 3: It was. 876 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,759 Speaker 1: I feel that a necessity to follow that up with 877 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 1: my question, like when you got the bang, I ain't 878 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,000 Speaker 1: talking about taking care of mom or none of that. 879 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 3: You know, we all take care. 880 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 1: I'm talking about what I want to hear something fantastic 881 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:34,239 Speaker 1: that you did, like a big ball of purchase. You're 882 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,839 Speaker 1: walking around like you know what I didn't. I didn't man, 883 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 1: I'm from South Dallas. I didn't work this hard. I 884 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 1: deserve my one time. Let me let the third person 885 00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:49,440 Speaker 1: deserve spoking the third person, making this part the third 886 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,239 Speaker 1: person type, per right here. 887 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,320 Speaker 3: What you did, the third person lives with the third person. 888 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:02,279 Speaker 3: It was a big deal. After Michael Jordan and them, 889 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:08,200 Speaker 3: catch was like this. It was every time about thank you. 890 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:12,439 Speaker 4: They came back with their bag like all right talking, 891 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 4: I did it all you. I bought everything. Man, you 892 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. It's my heart, bless my heart, blessing. 893 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,400 Speaker 3: I got grandparents. It's like from sound dollar you fellas 894 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 3: I did it. I did that, so you bought it all. 895 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:35,560 Speaker 1: Hey tell me this, like in hindsight and now seeing 896 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,239 Speaker 1: the success of this brand and everything that it's done 897 00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,759 Speaker 1: and it's accomplished and it's still here today, how does 898 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,680 Speaker 1: it feel They have been the first ever cover athlete 899 00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:44,840 Speaker 1: for Slam magazine. 900 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:46,080 Speaker 3: I didn't even realize that. 901 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,120 Speaker 1: That's like crazy because like you know, Slam is like 902 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:53,040 Speaker 1: that's like one of the hood, Like that's up right now, 903 00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:53,840 Speaker 1: you gotta get. 904 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,239 Speaker 4: I heard the Slam magazine cover all the time, man, 905 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 4: but like you said, it was the first one, so 906 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:03,120 Speaker 4: they wasn't as. 907 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,799 Speaker 1: Lawn, but right right, that's what I'm saying that retro 908 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:09,359 Speaker 1: like and looking at it thought like that's she that's 909 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,000 Speaker 1: a lifetime achievement for a lot of us. 910 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 3: Like now we gotta get to you on Slam, like 911 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,279 Speaker 3: like you was the you kicked it off. It's crazy. 912 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,680 Speaker 4: Your fellas is crazy because I've done so much. Afterwards 913 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:21,960 Speaker 4: they're like, yo, Slam. I'm like, yeah, yeah, let's do 914 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,480 Speaker 4: it right, let's do it. Every time they every time 915 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,800 Speaker 4: they ask to do something, I'm like, I'm living because 916 00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,000 Speaker 4: I'm not see. 917 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,880 Speaker 3: But again, it was the first one, so you like again, 918 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,160 Speaker 3: I'm walking around like I'm ojay, what what do you 919 00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:34,640 Speaker 3: want to do? 920 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,239 Speaker 1: I feel like they, oh, you like an issue right now, 921 00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:42,320 Speaker 1: like put some stamp, like you're like, Slam. If y'all listening, 922 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:44,800 Speaker 1: you know, I feel like something needs to happen. This 923 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:48,279 Speaker 1: man is the man in the first first issue, y'all. 924 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:49,360 Speaker 3: Man, That's why I love it. 925 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:51,719 Speaker 2: Straight up the New York Knicks. I know when I 926 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:53,400 Speaker 2: got to the league, and this was, you've been with 927 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,239 Speaker 2: the Knicks for a minute now wa. 928 00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:56,800 Speaker 1: Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait, before you go 929 00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:58,759 Speaker 1: to New York, Before you go to New York. I 930 00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:00,640 Speaker 1: got I gotta go here now because you know, we 931 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,279 Speaker 1: had a couple of his old g teammates. I got 932 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,040 Speaker 1: to go to Dream Team too. Oh yeah, I got 933 00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,680 Speaker 1: to go to Dream Team too. We can't go here 934 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:12,960 Speaker 1: without going there. Yeah, because d C, we didn't have 935 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,120 Speaker 1: some we had some of the guys on here. And 936 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,960 Speaker 1: my favorite question is, could y'all have be Dream Team one? 937 00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:24,560 Speaker 3: Yeah? He said? He said, I can't even fully get 938 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,600 Speaker 3: the question out for y'all. This is not y'all feel 939 00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:36,000 Speaker 3: Who said we would d d the first one? 940 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:37,200 Speaker 1: He said, right? 941 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,640 Speaker 3: Not only, he said not only? He said, boy, please, 942 00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:41,799 Speaker 3: he said we had the eighth one. 943 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,200 Speaker 1: To talking about big Fellow Shack, he said, listen, we 944 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,480 Speaker 1: weren't about to be played with. He talked, he talked 945 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:47,200 Speaker 1: bad about it. 946 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:54,440 Speaker 3: He should he should. That's Detroit was no, like, you 947 00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:56,879 Speaker 3: know we get that quick, like we don't say want 948 00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:58,040 Speaker 3: to be no mother. 949 00:42:58,360 --> 00:42:58,879 Speaker 6: Play the game. 950 00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:02,319 Speaker 3: You donna beat us? Play the game. Let's play the game. 951 00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:04,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, who gonna not play that game? 952 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:05,279 Speaker 3: Yeah? 953 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,880 Speaker 6: Man, a beautiful game to. 954 00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,680 Speaker 4: You wouldn't believe it, bro, you wouldn't believe it was 955 00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:12,960 Speaker 4: a Look, I stayed drunk. Don't tell nobody. 956 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,880 Speaker 3: I stayed listen. You know it's a celebration. 957 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:17,320 Speaker 7: You know what it was? 958 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,040 Speaker 3: It did have y'all, y'all to play one of them 959 00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:21,320 Speaker 3: Olympics games y'all played in. 960 00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:25,440 Speaker 4: Yes, you know afterwards they picked random guys to do 961 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,560 Speaker 4: the drug test like they were picking. What they did 962 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,000 Speaker 4: to us was they were like, man, who're gonna do 963 00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,239 Speaker 4: the drug test? But after every game, they got to 964 00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,279 Speaker 4: pick a random three guys to do the drug test. 965 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:38,080 Speaker 4: Every every game, After every game, I'm picked, I'm like, yo, 966 00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:38,400 Speaker 4: why are you? 967 00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:40,279 Speaker 3: You know what? 968 00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:41,279 Speaker 8: You know what. 969 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,000 Speaker 6: They r on Summertime five, that's why they. 970 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:56,080 Speaker 4: This is black bees, this is country Rice' no steroids here. 971 00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,040 Speaker 3: I don't even know what that's about. I'm just eating. 972 00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:02,480 Speaker 3: I'm just eating, looking thank you, like they're gonna provide 973 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:03,160 Speaker 3: some steroids. 974 00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:06,239 Speaker 2: And my sister come on to win that gold medal, 975 00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,920 Speaker 2: stand on that podium that had that national How was 976 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:09,320 Speaker 2: that for you? 977 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,120 Speaker 3: I loved it? It was you know what I wish 978 00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,640 Speaker 3: only only regret I had, and I hope we don't 979 00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,279 Speaker 3: get in trouble. I wish I went somewhere. Come on, now, 980 00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,440 Speaker 3: I'm in New York. We go to Canada. I want 981 00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 3: to go to Japan. 982 00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:24,120 Speaker 6: I want, yeah, right, one of the other countries, one 983 00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:24,600 Speaker 6: of the big. 984 00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:26,440 Speaker 3: Canada. 985 00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, the Canada million time, no disrespecs. But you wish 986 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:36,880 Speaker 1: like Beijing or something like that, Brazil, you know, Russia, Canada. 987 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I wanted. Man, all good, I did so. 988 00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:42,520 Speaker 4: But it was good stepping on that state, especially with 989 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:44,960 Speaker 4: That's what I was about saying, how was that like? 990 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,200 Speaker 4: Because I know that you know y'all the success was 991 00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,600 Speaker 4: it was kind of a four going conclusion. But how 992 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,800 Speaker 4: was it just to be with that group of you know, 993 00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,759 Speaker 4: special individuals, the best in the game, and to spend 994 00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,879 Speaker 4: that time with them, How was that camaraderie? Like the practices, 995 00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:02,880 Speaker 4: the whole hells, the bus rides, you know, if it 996 00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,520 Speaker 4: was gambling and games and I know it was crap 997 00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:07,360 Speaker 4: talking kidding me. 998 00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,239 Speaker 3: Got to be a whole bunch of other stuff too. 999 00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:11,279 Speaker 3: We don't get into it. 1000 00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:13,960 Speaker 1: But we know and we know that's what made you know, 1001 00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,719 Speaker 1: being part of teams and being those memories Like how 1002 00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,160 Speaker 1: was that for you, Like, you know, feeling like you 1003 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,279 Speaker 1: know you wanted the best in the world and y'all 1004 00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:22,160 Speaker 1: here doing. 1005 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:25,239 Speaker 3: This, you know what, like you cast like you know this. 1006 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:27,200 Speaker 3: You know when you're on a team like this, you 1007 00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,759 Speaker 3: go on the road, you might have two cash hang out, 1008 00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:30,839 Speaker 3: three cash hang out. 1009 00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,160 Speaker 4: What I loved about that that Dream Team too, we 1010 00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:41,160 Speaker 4: went on the road, all level, all left look, Mark Price, 1011 00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:47,640 Speaker 4: Mark Price, thunder Dead. What were calling everybodyhere we go? Yeah, 1012 00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:52,120 Speaker 4: we would be a crew. We've been I said, we 1013 00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:55,000 Speaker 4: go when we went, it was all level of us, man, 1014 00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,919 Speaker 4: it was all that was one of the best time 1015 00:45:58,280 --> 00:45:59,200 Speaker 4: playing the Dream Team. 1016 00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,759 Speaker 2: To tell me about the initial call, like did you 1017 00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:03,560 Speaker 2: know you're going to be on Dream Team or you 1018 00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,680 Speaker 2: didn't know? But just being announced that you're finla be 1019 00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:10,880 Speaker 2: these top eleven guys that the world didn't grab to 1020 00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,000 Speaker 2: represent us, Like the initial. 1021 00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,720 Speaker 3: Call that you got, especially after seeing the Impacted. 1022 00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:17,680 Speaker 6: Because you've been in the league for a minute. You 1023 00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:19,279 Speaker 6: know the league, and you know they can pick a 1024 00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:20,360 Speaker 6: lot of players, you know. 1025 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,400 Speaker 3: I know. And then I got the call doing the season, 1026 00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,839 Speaker 3: so we were still falling. They want you to play. 1027 00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:27,360 Speaker 3: I'm like, what. 1028 00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:32,880 Speaker 4: Whoa yeah, And I think I was like the fourth 1029 00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:36,320 Speaker 4: call because you get to pick out your jersey, and 1030 00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,440 Speaker 4: I think the first two jersey like Shock got there, 1031 00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:39,440 Speaker 4: Like okay, y'all. 1032 00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:46,759 Speaker 3: Call Shock for me. I understand won So that's okay, I. 1033 00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,400 Speaker 4: Understand. And then I'm like, will give me fifteen. I 1034 00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:53,560 Speaker 4: want to be the because magic at fifteen. I just 1035 00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:58,160 Speaker 4: wanted to Johnson to be fifteen. That's domb fifteen and 1036 00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:01,680 Speaker 4: I was Johnson, it's just your call because you know 1037 00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:03,800 Speaker 4: we love out something. Don't nobody want to you know 1038 00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,719 Speaker 4: how you go, yeah, well that's for us, but to 1039 00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:09,200 Speaker 4: give it up for that to play with them? And 1040 00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:12,759 Speaker 4: DC was magnimics. DC went number one the year before me. 1041 00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:15,200 Speaker 4: So every time DC and I played, it was what 1042 00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:16,040 Speaker 4: y'all talking about? 1043 00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:16,319 Speaker 8: Yeah? 1044 00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:21,840 Speaker 3: Whatever? For whatever? A man And that's why I like 1045 00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,239 Speaker 3: man for real, like people like DC. 1046 00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:26,320 Speaker 1: I love that we was able to have him on, 1047 00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,000 Speaker 1: even like you, because neither one of y'all don't do 1048 00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:29,640 Speaker 1: this a lot. 1049 00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,800 Speaker 3: Y'all don't pop out and be just talking or whatever. 1050 00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:36,920 Speaker 1: And then but at the same time, we really know 1051 00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,440 Speaker 1: that when you talk about this game and talk about 1052 00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:43,239 Speaker 1: real ones and Hoopers. You can't talk about it without 1053 00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:46,719 Speaker 1: talking about you, d C and people like y'all, And 1054 00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:48,719 Speaker 1: I'm talking about through where we come from. 1055 00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,400 Speaker 3: The respect is crazy, Like this is legit. 1056 00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,240 Speaker 1: Like when we coming where we come from in the hood, DC, 1057 00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:59,719 Speaker 1: Grandmama like ring bells, like similar to some of the 1058 00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,520 Speaker 1: to the game like an MJ. Like y'all, y'all gone 1059 00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,320 Speaker 1: to some of the same type of respect like dead series. 1060 00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:07,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, app check that, young fella, thank y'all. 1061 00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:12,000 Speaker 8: That's how you do it, so bro, Yeah real, that's 1062 00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:15,360 Speaker 8: definitely what you're doing for young fellas behind you to 1063 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,920 Speaker 8: show their respect, the ones that like you two that 1064 00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:20,279 Speaker 8: did the same thing I did. 1065 00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:21,920 Speaker 3: You sitting there asking me a question. You did the 1066 00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:25,680 Speaker 3: same thing I did, Bro. I mean, I just feel 1067 00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,320 Speaker 3: it necessary for us to make sure these young fellas know. 1068 00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:31,399 Speaker 1: Man, when I was I worked in Detroit four years ago, man, 1069 00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,080 Speaker 1: and I love them to death, Stanley Johnson and some. 1070 00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:37,120 Speaker 3: Other young boys, but these people didn't know who Eddie 1071 00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:38,120 Speaker 3: Jones was. Bro. 1072 00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,960 Speaker 1: Like we having a conversation on like in the in 1073 00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,200 Speaker 1: the locker room and stuff, and I'm seeing something like 1074 00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:48,759 Speaker 1: I'm like, like, like how you do Like, come on, man, 1075 00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,520 Speaker 1: like I feel it necessary for like you know, we 1076 00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:53,799 Speaker 1: got this platform, were about to we about to try 1077 00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:55,279 Speaker 1: and get every single one of y'all. 1078 00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:59,480 Speaker 3: We can up being like, look learn something, this was 1079 00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,400 Speaker 3: man like you going and getting. 1080 00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,600 Speaker 1: That twelve year eighty four allows these boys to get 1081 00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:07,000 Speaker 1: two fifty now to get three hundred nine, Like they 1082 00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:08,200 Speaker 1: couldn't have did that if you. 1083 00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:12,399 Speaker 3: Know everybody before them, you and us, they can't. 1084 00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,400 Speaker 1: They can't get that money without you doing that, without 1085 00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:17,719 Speaker 1: you know, Juwan signing the first hundred you know what 1086 00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:19,960 Speaker 1: I'm saying, and all of that stuff that happened when 1087 00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:22,920 Speaker 1: Magic signed the first million. We can't get none of 1088 00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,319 Speaker 1: this without all of that, and they need the damn 1089 00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:26,960 Speaker 1: So Noah, because a lot of them. 1090 00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:31,080 Speaker 3: Don't appreciate you, bro. Thank you, yo, fellows. Keep doing 1091 00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:31,680 Speaker 3: what you're doing. 1092 00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:33,920 Speaker 6: Man, we got to the league like it was a 1093 00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:37,080 Speaker 6: couple of years. You was with the Knicks by then, so. 1094 00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:39,279 Speaker 2: I remember you with the nigga it was juice free 1095 00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:42,360 Speaker 2: well Allen Houston with the h u O on the shoe. 1096 00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,719 Speaker 2: I'm like, man them, Gord, this is the Knicks, like 1097 00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,640 Speaker 2: we've been to play the Knicks like that was one 1098 00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,480 Speaker 2: of them moments them League moment was like, man, I'm heard. Man, 1099 00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:55,680 Speaker 2: it's got LJ Downers free well ewing. But like your 1100 00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:59,839 Speaker 2: Nick years though, like the shot, I remember the shot. 1101 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,000 Speaker 2: You hit the shot and one to three and Chris 1102 00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:02,600 Speaker 2: Child's grab. 1103 00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:04,439 Speaker 3: You got to hit the free throw. 1104 00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:06,480 Speaker 6: You gotta hit the free throw. 1105 00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:09,560 Speaker 2: Like the buckets you used to get what you meant 1106 00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:12,040 Speaker 2: to them next teams and like all that stuff. 1107 00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:15,720 Speaker 6: Just explain that your Nick time like it was different. 1108 00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:16,960 Speaker 6: It was a different LJ. 1109 00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:18,560 Speaker 3: It wasn't the LJ we were. 1110 00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:21,759 Speaker 2: Seeing in Charlotte, but it was a more mature experience 1111 00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,840 Speaker 2: and knew what to do like a big shot taker. 1112 00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:26,839 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like I look for them 1113 00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:28,920 Speaker 2: like they got you the ball at the end of 1114 00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,040 Speaker 2: the games. And a lot of people don't realize that. 1115 00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:38,360 Speaker 3: About it. Talk about it, man. We all want to 1116 00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:40,239 Speaker 3: be on the team, just like y'all took this team. 1117 00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:42,160 Speaker 4: You want to do a team where you put five 1118 00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:45,040 Speaker 4: out there and everybody can get their own everybody and 1119 00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:46,640 Speaker 4: no no animosity. 1120 00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:48,720 Speaker 3: Know this, he gets forty, you get fifteen. 1121 00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:55,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's quiet bro goldst free and it's the hood thing, man, 1122 00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:57,839 Speaker 4: y'all you right on it with your podcast y'all keep 1123 00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:00,600 Speaker 4: doing this, man, You keep doing this because you bring 1124 00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:02,920 Speaker 4: it back memories with me when you talk about the 1125 00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:04,719 Speaker 4: spread and the Allen and you take it back to 1126 00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:06,760 Speaker 4: mc marcus Camby. 1127 00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:08,759 Speaker 3: Colonel we all g. 1128 00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:12,319 Speaker 4: Yo Canby, you guess would have loved out we had 1129 00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:15,000 Speaker 4: inter mission. We all got in the room on the road. 1130 00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:16,640 Speaker 4: We all got in the room on the road. 1131 00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:19,680 Speaker 3: Y'all know what that is. Yeah, little pow wow, talk 1132 00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:22,200 Speaker 3: about it now. Y'all have loved them missions we had. 1133 00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:27,840 Speaker 6: We have deep talks, man, that they don't even know about. 1134 00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:31,880 Speaker 3: Yo, I can remember. I can't for real life true story, dmails. 1135 00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,040 Speaker 1: You can't remember exactly what I'm saying the first time 1136 00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,200 Speaker 1: when we came and played, y'all when we got when 1137 00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:40,480 Speaker 1: we got busy in the guard listen the night before 1138 00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:43,160 Speaker 1: God bless it dead our O G. 1139 00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:44,080 Speaker 3: Sean Rooks. 1140 00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:47,640 Speaker 1: Right, it's our first time really really going out of 1141 00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,160 Speaker 1: New York on some on some big boy grown. 1142 00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:53,960 Speaker 3: Stuff like Lee stuff. He took us out big boy 1143 00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:55,480 Speaker 3: steakhouse restaurant. 1144 00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:57,560 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. He got some nice ladies 1145 00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:00,200 Speaker 1: to accompany us and all of that. We go out 1146 00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:03,000 Speaker 1: after this big boy club like we really did New York. 1147 00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:03,600 Speaker 3: We did it. 1148 00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:06,920 Speaker 1: Next morning, we get to the guard. You know how 1149 00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,160 Speaker 1: they doing the guard Sometimes we get them shoot around. 1150 00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:10,560 Speaker 1: They ain't even got the lights on yet. 1151 00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:10,920 Speaker 3: They try. 1152 00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:12,799 Speaker 1: They do us dirty. We the clippers. You know, they 1153 00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:14,520 Speaker 1: don't care. We trying to get the lights turned on. 1154 00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:16,560 Speaker 1: So me and me and d Mile, we the young 1155 00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:19,799 Speaker 1: fellas right, We didn't party too hard. We sitting there 1156 00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:21,840 Speaker 1: waiting for them to turn on lights. We just fell asleep, 1157 00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:24,520 Speaker 1: up against each other with our hoodies and stuff. So 1158 00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:28,120 Speaker 1: then soon as we get up, Gentry giving us the speech. 1159 00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:30,319 Speaker 1: He ain't really saying nothing straight to us, but he talked. 1160 00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:32,640 Speaker 1: He like, if y'all can't handle y'all self, y'all don't 1161 00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:34,520 Speaker 1: need to do certain stuff. And now y'all gotta be. 1162 00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:37,000 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. But the game time come. 1163 00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:40,080 Speaker 1: Look, oh gee, I'll never forget it. I kept being 1164 00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,040 Speaker 1: being d Mail. All we talked about is the MJ 1165 00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,759 Speaker 1: say you gotta go kill when you in the garden man. 1166 00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:48,680 Speaker 1: We got up in that thing and got God it 1167 00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:52,200 Speaker 1: is and I remember you remember the mail. I'm going 1168 00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:59,920 Speaker 1: all crazy, so much of it. I'm yelling to screen. 1169 00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:01,880 Speaker 3: Ever told me to calm down. You don't want to 1170 00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:03,719 Speaker 3: get a man. I said you, I said, fuck that. 1171 00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:11,759 Speaker 6: I said, he got me like, no, yeah, no, they 1172 00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:12,680 Speaker 6: gotta get this work. 1173 00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:15,600 Speaker 3: Now. This is my moment. Boy. I came here, Simjay 1174 00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,319 Speaker 3: say you got to killing the guy killing. I got 1175 00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,719 Speaker 3: twenty eight on the free well at Houston. Boy, I 1176 00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:27,880 Speaker 3: can't tell me a damn thing. We're stand over, Unt, 1177 00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:31,439 Speaker 3: calm down. I'll never forget that game and the Guard. 1178 00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:33,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, I remember that game. I got to think I 1179 00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:34,200 Speaker 6: got that on tape. 1180 00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,120 Speaker 4: The Garden like that for me as Charlotte too, I 1181 00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:40,919 Speaker 4: couldn't wait for the Guard. It's still the Garden. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 1182 00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:42,680 Speaker 4: I couldn't wait to play in the Garden. 1183 00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:47,640 Speaker 1: You're a prime example of like your superstar years were 1184 00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:51,680 Speaker 1: in Charlotte, but like you are just as endeared in 1185 00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:54,960 Speaker 1: New York, if not more than you know are word 1186 00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:58,040 Speaker 1: in Charlotte because of they love the blue collar. They 1187 00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:00,400 Speaker 1: love the dude gonna bring his lunch pa, and they 1188 00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:03,040 Speaker 1: know who's you know, they know the heart and soul 1189 00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:05,520 Speaker 1: type of guys, and they respect that guy. You know, 1190 00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:07,560 Speaker 1: they say the once a nick always niba be like 1191 00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:09,640 Speaker 1: they really jabbed with you. 1192 00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:10,960 Speaker 3: I didn't been there, you know. 1193 00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:13,000 Speaker 1: Gee, I didnet came and showed up to the couple 1194 00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:15,920 Speaker 1: little different events and appearances, and I'm looking like you've 1195 00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,160 Speaker 1: seen every time I come around. I'm just like, yo, 1196 00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:21,319 Speaker 1: I'm up and here Earl mount Row Pearl over there, 1197 00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:22,400 Speaker 1: like I'm like Clyde. 1198 00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:25,920 Speaker 3: I'm like ljog I just free was there. I'm just like, yo, 1199 00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:27,120 Speaker 3: this is crazy. 1200 00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:30,480 Speaker 1: Like Bernard King, I'm the youngest in the room, you know, 1201 00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:33,120 Speaker 1: John Wallace be Ill, just be like all right, like yo, 1202 00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:36,719 Speaker 1: this is crazy. Like but it's like, how do you 1203 00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:39,759 Speaker 1: feel when they talk about how players scared to come there? 1204 00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:43,480 Speaker 1: Can you just tell them how good it can be 1205 00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:46,680 Speaker 1: if you come to New York and like, just do 1206 00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:48,799 Speaker 1: your thing and show like my thing. When I say 1207 00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,520 Speaker 1: do your thing, just leave it all out there, I 1208 00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:54,800 Speaker 1: ain't saying how much you gonna average, what you're gonna produce. 1209 00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:56,879 Speaker 1: I'm just saying if you just leave it all out 1210 00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:59,239 Speaker 1: there and they can see that, they will love you 1211 00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:02,400 Speaker 1: right round right like you said that. 1212 00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,040 Speaker 4: Being in Charlotte. Then the five years when I came, 1213 00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:07,120 Speaker 4: I went straight home. We lived in White Plane. 1214 00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:08,319 Speaker 3: When I. 1215 00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:14,800 Speaker 1: You, Yongkster is always living in the city. I was 1216 00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,480 Speaker 1: in White Plains too, oh gee, I lived. I lived 1217 00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:20,280 Speaker 1: in Purchase, and then I lived in downtown White Plains. 1218 00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:21,560 Speaker 3: Smart. Smart. 1219 00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:24,080 Speaker 4: I lived in White Place. I played in this garden, 1220 00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:26,640 Speaker 4: I went on. I went on out in the garden 1221 00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:29,480 Speaker 4: out and my man, Chris Child's I came the same time. 1222 00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,239 Speaker 4: Chris Child, he started going out in the city. He 1223 00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:35,640 Speaker 4: went out one time, went out the wrong door. Man 1224 00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:37,160 Speaker 4: right there, telling me, you know what it is, give 1225 00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:38,200 Speaker 4: it all, give it all. 1226 00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:43,120 Speaker 3: He dripped. He by himself. He go out there way soon. 1227 00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:44,080 Speaker 3: If you go out give it up. 1228 00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:46,560 Speaker 4: Man, you know what I like, don't be going out 1229 00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:50,080 Speaker 4: find yourself in New York. You gotta go out and purchase. 1230 00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:55,239 Speaker 1: I ain't going out nowhere by myself like out like 1231 00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:56,680 Speaker 1: and I see that's one thing. Like you said you 1232 00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:58,719 Speaker 1: played you home now. I ain't gonna tell that, lie, 1233 00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:03,560 Speaker 1: dang boy. I was all in the city. I'm gonna 1234 00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:05,400 Speaker 1: tell you the truth. Okay, I'm gonna tell you the 1235 00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:08,399 Speaker 1: absolute truth. Like got my butt like when I first 1236 00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:11,239 Speaker 1: got there, right, my my brother got killed maybe like 1237 00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:13,640 Speaker 1: two months into the season. So that had me in 1238 00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:15,520 Speaker 1: the world whining. Like when I say I was in 1239 00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:17,640 Speaker 1: the world, where that mean I was out, That mean 1240 00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:18,160 Speaker 1: I was out. 1241 00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:18,400 Speaker 6: I was. 1242 00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:21,319 Speaker 3: I was coping like that I was. I would look well, 1243 00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:23,399 Speaker 3: I was out out, like really out. 1244 00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:25,520 Speaker 1: And I ain't never getting no I ain't never getting 1245 00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:27,200 Speaker 1: no ship because I was with the right people and 1246 00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:28,760 Speaker 1: stayed away from the wrong situation. 1247 00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:32,480 Speaker 3: But I enjoyed New York the first couple of years. Boy, 1248 00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:37,880 Speaker 3: I'm real talk boy man, I was scared of it. 1249 00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:41,000 Speaker 3: I was shared up. I stayed, I wasn't doing it. 1250 00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:43,879 Speaker 3: I wasn't doing it. But when I'm now that I'm 1251 00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:45,560 Speaker 3: back in this role, I'm in. 1252 00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:46,399 Speaker 7: Man. 1253 00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:48,120 Speaker 3: The love is crazy. 1254 00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:51,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, like you said, the love is they do real 1255 00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:53,960 Speaker 4: basketball fans, it's just jo let you know, you know 1256 00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:57,560 Speaker 4: how crazy it can get. But the basketball fans man's 1257 00:56:57,600 --> 00:56:58,600 Speaker 4: absolute fans. 1258 00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:02,080 Speaker 2: First Knuckleheads is based off our celebration. One of the 1259 00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:04,680 Speaker 2: celebration we had Cynthy Cooper. She used to raise the 1260 00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:15,040 Speaker 2: roof one of my favorite celebrations. Oh my god, man, 1261 00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:18,120 Speaker 2: because like a lot of people didn't celebrate or they 1262 00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:20,520 Speaker 2: didn't celebrate because that was a former show boating. You 1263 00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:22,320 Speaker 2: know a lot of people on other teams take that 1264 00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:25,360 Speaker 2: as offensive. Sometimes, you know, that's my groove to get 1265 00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:28,280 Speaker 2: me hyped. But the LJ celebration. That's one of the 1266 00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:32,400 Speaker 2: old celebrations that I remember that people used to always 1267 00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:34,600 Speaker 2: do it, and I used to do myself when it used. 1268 00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:36,280 Speaker 6: To hoop and I come down and get it in 1269 00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:36,920 Speaker 6: my swag. 1270 00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:40,560 Speaker 2: Like to see the generation do that and see other 1271 00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:42,960 Speaker 2: people do that, and see generations now. You see these 1272 00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:45,520 Speaker 2: kids now they shit the three, They throwing up everything 1273 00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:48,720 Speaker 2: in the neighborhood. To see the kids now doing just 1274 00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:51,120 Speaker 2: doing stuff and celebrating because you're one of the few 1275 00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:52,560 Speaker 2: guys that was doing it, and it wasn't a lot 1276 00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:53,240 Speaker 2: of people doing it. 1277 00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:57,680 Speaker 3: How is that? I know you cast no Rick Rick Bronson? 1278 00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:02,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah with that Rick young Rick younger than Rick 1279 00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:05,920 Speaker 4: right round, Maybe you can't right with y'all. Was on 1280 00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:08,360 Speaker 4: our bench, was on the next bench, and I would 1281 00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:10,360 Speaker 4: hear the three and Rick would throw the Rick would 1282 00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:12,800 Speaker 4: do that to me, would do that to me, And 1283 00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:14,760 Speaker 4: we was in the locker room, like, Rick, what is it? 1284 00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:18,320 Speaker 4: He said, that's the big he that's so everything. Yeah, 1285 00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:21,120 Speaker 4: back at you, back at you, yeah, Rick, Rick, Rick 1286 00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:22,080 Speaker 4: ricky credit for that. 1287 00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:23,800 Speaker 3: Okay, So Rick, there is that. 1288 00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:27,440 Speaker 6: Okay, that's what that's the right there, throwing it up 1289 00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:29,280 Speaker 6: in here. That's what's up. 1290 00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:32,960 Speaker 1: So so tell me speaking about that, like the legendary play, 1291 00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:35,320 Speaker 1: tell me about that four point play. That's one of 1292 00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:38,360 Speaker 1: the biggest plays in the legendary play in Knick's history. 1293 00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:40,960 Speaker 1: And you know it's a loved play by all the fans, 1294 00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:43,920 Speaker 1: Like take me through that in your man and my 1295 00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:47,000 Speaker 1: main man shut out the shout out to Ben Lyons. 1296 00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:49,880 Speaker 3: He wants to know what did Chris Child say to 1297 00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:54,480 Speaker 3: you when he grabs you after you Well, first thing, Chris, 1298 00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:55,720 Speaker 3: calm the fuck down. 1299 00:58:56,040 --> 00:59:00,760 Speaker 4: You got a free throw, Calm, you have it being 1300 00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:03,880 Speaker 4: live ex straight punt gud straight punk. 1301 00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:05,800 Speaker 3: God, what you're doing? What the fuck are you doing? 1302 00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:11,840 Speaker 3: And you know the play was for I was like 1303 00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:12,880 Speaker 3: the third option. 1304 00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:17,320 Speaker 4: The first option was Allen, the second option was spree Well, 1305 00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:18,760 Speaker 4: and I was sending them two picks. 1306 00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:20,520 Speaker 3: Now, I was the center at the time. We went 1307 00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:22,600 Speaker 3: small ball. We went small ball. 1308 00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:25,320 Speaker 4: Because we needed you know, Jeff wanted to put somebody, 1309 00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:27,000 Speaker 4: all three point shooters on the court. 1310 00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:29,520 Speaker 3: You're a small ball. And I sent them two picks 1311 00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:32,560 Speaker 3: and they were bullshit picks. Fellas. I burned it because 1312 00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:33,440 Speaker 3: I wanted to rock. 1313 00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:39,960 Speaker 7: So he ain't over. 1314 00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:44,920 Speaker 3: You watch it, you go bad. That's a bullshit pic 1315 00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:49,600 Speaker 3: exact and popped straight to the rock. Ball it up. 1316 00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:54,240 Speaker 4: But I really wanted my confidence was up. Thibodeau's assistant 1317 00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:57,640 Speaker 4: coach that year, and Timberdau was my shooting coach. Tom 1318 00:59:57,720 --> 00:59:59,840 Speaker 4: Timberdau tell everybody he got this start in the NBA 1319 01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:03,640 Speaker 4: with coach Tarkani, coach Tarkani and coach san Antonio for 1320 01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:07,640 Speaker 4: like three months, and Timbodaux was his assistant, so Tiberda 1321 01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:08,840 Speaker 4: coach talk was real close. 1322 01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:12,640 Speaker 3: So yeah, when Timbodeau came to the NIXT, he just 1323 01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:16,240 Speaker 3: I'm your shooting coat. Come on, come on, come on, Tim. 1324 01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:18,840 Speaker 4: And I had a great, great week, great two weeks. 1325 01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:20,600 Speaker 4: I know I won't hit that shot man. You know 1326 01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:22,400 Speaker 4: when you rolling and you know you let it go, 1327 01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:25,840 Speaker 4: you want it. Yeah, I felt That's how I know 1328 01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:26,520 Speaker 4: I was gonna hit it. 1329 01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:28,640 Speaker 1: I can never say I've been in there when it's 1330 01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:30,640 Speaker 1: been a feel good moment like that. I've been for 1331 01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:32,680 Speaker 1: some cool ones, but not something like that. I know 1332 01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:35,720 Speaker 1: that place had to be straight electric. I'm still living 1333 01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:40,200 Speaker 1: on right. You know, they found I'm still you know. 1334 01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:42,080 Speaker 4: That's why I like I said, I love New York 1335 01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:45,000 Speaker 4: because there's a sports town, sports city and they let 1336 01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:47,080 Speaker 4: you live when it's like that, man, that she'll still 1337 01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:48,040 Speaker 4: show you that respect. 1338 01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:49,360 Speaker 3: But it was crazy. 1339 01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:51,400 Speaker 4: I had my three sons there at the time, so 1340 01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:56,200 Speaker 4: my three yet experienced the whole experience with me. 1341 01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:59,920 Speaker 3: Man, they was there, we kick it. You know how 1342 01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:02,400 Speaker 3: we went out. I went out that night. I went out. 1343 01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:07,600 Speaker 3: Jimmy's in the Bronx. I don't know if he's in 1344 01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:10,160 Speaker 3: the bro about Jimmy's in the bron I was the 1345 01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:13,200 Speaker 3: Jimmy's in the bros That. You know what I'm saying. 1346 01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:16,000 Speaker 3: I love it. It was crazy and to this day 1347 01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:17,680 Speaker 3: when I see it, you know, it brings that, it 1348 01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:20,320 Speaker 3: brings that back. That's that's crazy. 1349 01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:23,240 Speaker 1: That's a message all these young boys in these free 1350 01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:24,640 Speaker 1: agents out there like this man. 1351 01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:26,720 Speaker 3: He wasn't even the main man. 1352 01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:29,240 Speaker 4: He was a staple, a hard worker, and he say 1353 01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:32,080 Speaker 4: he's still living off and literally eating off. 1354 01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:33,120 Speaker 3: That one jot. Man. 1355 01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:36,520 Speaker 1: Listen, hey, the makes look good this year, Julie thinking 1356 01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:39,680 Speaker 1: about them, y'all city, New York City this year. 1357 01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:41,640 Speaker 2: Man, the boys looking like they read it, them young 1358 01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:43,400 Speaker 2: boys playing hard, old up for tales. 1359 01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:44,880 Speaker 6: Man shout out to till you. 1360 01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:47,520 Speaker 3: Got that thing going in the right direction. Show him 1361 01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:50,040 Speaker 3: Leo Leon shout out worldwide. 1362 01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:51,600 Speaker 5: Up. 1363 01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:53,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, they bring it back. They do a good job. 1364 01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:56,080 Speaker 4: I'm I'm a TiAl fan, so I ain't got no, 1365 01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:58,720 Speaker 4: I ain't got nothing, nothing bad to say about them 1366 01:01:58,760 --> 01:01:59,080 Speaker 4: right now. 1367 01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:01,600 Speaker 3: Like you said, all they're playing hard, They're gonna be love. 1368 01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:06,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, tell me this. When you made your first All 1369 01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:09,840 Speaker 1: Star game, what was that feeling like? Like when you 1370 01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:12,320 Speaker 1: cause I I never made an All Star game, but 1371 01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:14,640 Speaker 1: I could just remember we made the Rookie game two 1372 01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:16,800 Speaker 1: years bro, Like when I came back, you know, like 1373 01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:19,480 Speaker 1: you go the All Star weekend, you like, all right, y'all, 1374 01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:21,560 Speaker 1: I got we about to head down here about you 1375 01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:24,200 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, come back feeling yourself? Like how 1376 01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:26,840 Speaker 1: was you feeling like years? You know what I'm saying, 1377 01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:29,080 Speaker 1: You made the All Star team and now you like 1378 01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:31,560 Speaker 1: you that's kind of like you know, your stabb of approval, 1379 01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:33,200 Speaker 1: like I'm one of them guys in the league. Like, 1380 01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:35,160 Speaker 1: how did that feel for you making your first All 1381 01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:35,720 Speaker 1: Star game? 1382 01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:44,480 Speaker 4: I was the youngest on that team, and everybody was y'all, fellow, y'all, Rubbie, y'all, fellow, y'all, 1383 01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:45,680 Speaker 4: get your hand off my head. 1384 01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:50,680 Speaker 3: I was good I was. I loved it. I loved it. 1385 01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:53,320 Speaker 3: They treated they treated I don't know if it's the 1386 01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:54,160 Speaker 3: same back then. 1387 01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:56,840 Speaker 4: Man, I just I love you catching you gotta you 1388 01:02:56,920 --> 01:03:01,080 Speaker 4: gotta continue that coach when I made'll start telling them answers. 1389 01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:03,480 Speaker 4: I mean, the old Jesus all about me. They were 1390 01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:05,640 Speaker 4: just worried about me making sure I was good. 1391 01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:10,120 Speaker 3: Mike, all you enjoyed it, damn, this is what it's about. Yeah, man, 1392 01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:12,600 Speaker 3: this it was love. It was just dead love. They 1393 01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:14,920 Speaker 3: treated me like a rookie though, but it was love, 1394 01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:17,600 Speaker 3: you know, and they love you know, come over, come 1395 01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:23,880 Speaker 3: over young, but they Mike had me come everywhere. Yeah, 1396 01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:26,240 Speaker 3: that's love, that's domb. It was there love. 1397 01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:29,640 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this about the legendary dunk contest 1398 01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:33,800 Speaker 1: that I felt like you absolutely damn one. Yeah, how 1399 01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:34,479 Speaker 1: did you feel? 1400 01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:34,919 Speaker 3: Like? First? 1401 01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:36,720 Speaker 1: I know that was like that was dope. That was 1402 01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:39,280 Speaker 1: a huge deal to being Like, how was that whole 1403 01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:41,200 Speaker 1: experience for you? The dunk contest? 1404 01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:44,280 Speaker 3: I choke. I should have won that thing. I should 1405 01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:45,360 Speaker 3: have won that, but I chose. 1406 01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:45,640 Speaker 5: Man. 1407 01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:50,400 Speaker 3: I you know what they did me and Stacey, y'all, 1408 01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:54,000 Speaker 3: we did not They wanted us to get on the 1409 01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:55,200 Speaker 3: bus and we didn't get. 1410 01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:55,520 Speaker 7: On the bus. 1411 01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:58,280 Speaker 3: We drove over. So when we drove over, we got 1412 01:03:58,320 --> 01:03:58,520 Speaker 3: to the. 1413 01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:01,000 Speaker 4: Locker room, they said you first, you said, you know 1414 01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:03,520 Speaker 4: y'all been a dunk contest, you get to pull out. 1415 01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:04,160 Speaker 3: The hat or something. 1416 01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:05,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, so I. 1417 01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:07,600 Speaker 3: Going first. 1418 01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:10,160 Speaker 4: But but once I got to the finals, man, I 1419 01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:12,280 Speaker 4: just choked such you Sybolis, that's my guy. 1420 01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:14,760 Speaker 3: But we know he could see through that mask. Thank 1421 01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:15,800 Speaker 3: you all. 1422 01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:18,560 Speaker 1: What happened when when Baron tried to really blindfold himself, 1423 01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:20,920 Speaker 1: he almost hurt Baron Davis tried that stuff and he 1424 01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:23,040 Speaker 1: missed the whole rim like he ain't no way you're 1425 01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:24,960 Speaker 1: gonna time in and make that man, man. 1426 01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:32,320 Speaker 4: Trying where you really try that you can hurt yourself. Hell, 1427 01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:34,640 Speaker 4: I missed the dunk, so he wanted. I just choked 1428 01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:37,240 Speaker 4: man as an old fashioned choke. 1429 01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:38,560 Speaker 3: Just like a u nl V. 1430 01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:40,480 Speaker 4: I thought y'all was gonna ask that. You remember the 1431 01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:42,520 Speaker 4: second year we played Duke and I didn't shoot that 1432 01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:46,320 Speaker 4: shot right the second game? If I shot the shot, 1433 01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:51,920 Speaker 4: l J, why you I choke? Yeahs ain't making no 1434 01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:53,720 Speaker 4: excuse me, no excuse. 1435 01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:58,280 Speaker 6: Let me ask you this start bench cut. You gotta 1436 01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:01,720 Speaker 6: start one. You gotta cut one. You got a bench one. 1437 01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:09,080 Speaker 2: Okay, Charles Barkley, call me alone, Jerry Covin. 1438 01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:17,800 Speaker 4: Charles Barkley called alone, and who Jerry Covin. Oh, I'm 1439 01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:21,240 Speaker 4: gonna start Derrick Colon. I'm on bench Walkley and I'm 1440 01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:24,160 Speaker 4: gonna cut Carl along and came along. 1441 01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:27,360 Speaker 3: Carl Malone is like the number one power forward. 1442 01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:33,800 Speaker 4: Right, I'm gonna start Derrick Covin. I'm gonut bench Barton. 1443 01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:35,680 Speaker 3: I'm gonna cut Carl along. That's my heart. 1444 01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:37,680 Speaker 6: Oh okay, that's my heart. 1445 01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:40,440 Speaker 3: I used to kill I used to kill Carl. I'm 1446 01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:41,040 Speaker 3: talking like this. 1447 01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:43,560 Speaker 4: I like, mother fucker, you're the biggest dude on the court, 1448 01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:45,880 Speaker 4: and you got to get five, five picks in the court. 1449 01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:46,680 Speaker 3: Every time. 1450 01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:51,000 Speaker 4: John Stockton sixty one, he pick it for you. And 1451 01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:53,240 Speaker 4: I used to get it and just be outside patting 1452 01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:54,720 Speaker 4: it like this, like I don't need no pick. I 1453 01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:56,600 Speaker 4: don't need no Pickure there. She would jump on him, 1454 01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:59,880 Speaker 4: something like that, I'm guarding him, and I got one, 1455 01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:02,520 Speaker 4: said hit me a little stock and hit me. I'm like, man, 1456 01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:04,680 Speaker 4: they six one and you getting all the picks, you 1457 01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:05,840 Speaker 4: big old blah blah wow. 1458 01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:08,200 Speaker 3: But you know you can't. You can't argue with his numbers. 1459 01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:09,600 Speaker 3: You can't argue with his number. 1460 01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:12,200 Speaker 2: You was a power forward that was quick. You can 1461 01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:15,560 Speaker 2: face up and you can bag down. And like you say, 1462 01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:17,800 Speaker 2: most of the power forwards of that era was like 1463 01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:21,240 Speaker 2: real big. It was more close to centers than they was, 1464 01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:24,120 Speaker 2: you know, than they were small forwards like you was 1465 01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:26,840 Speaker 2: like a small forward slash power for with the strip. 1466 01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:30,360 Speaker 6: Every matchup you had, you feel like you can score, 1467 01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:32,480 Speaker 6: Like my. 1468 01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:35,200 Speaker 3: Problem was gardening sixteen sixt eleven casts. 1469 01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:37,720 Speaker 6: It was just jump hooks. The motherfucker. I hate them. 1470 01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:41,120 Speaker 3: That was the problem. But on the other end, they 1471 01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:41,760 Speaker 3: couldn't guard. 1472 01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:42,360 Speaker 6: Me, thank god. 1473 01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:42,960 Speaker 3: It all. 1474 01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:45,320 Speaker 6: Used to shake up. 1475 01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:49,600 Speaker 3: Listen like DS. You know, he was a huge part 1476 01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:50,880 Speaker 3: of inspiring my game. 1477 01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:53,480 Speaker 1: You made me feel like, okay, you Barkley was like 1478 01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:55,560 Speaker 1: all right, like even if because like you know, when 1479 01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:58,080 Speaker 1: I was younger in high school and I was a 1480 01:06:58,160 --> 01:07:04,720 Speaker 1: power forward, nice long however, So that's what I'm saying, 1481 01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:06,960 Speaker 1: Like you definitely, like y'all definitely made me feel like 1482 01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:09,040 Speaker 1: all right, it's cool, Like I ain't like, I ain't 1483 01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:10,840 Speaker 1: gotta be six safe to be able to you know 1484 01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:12,560 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, play in the league, Like I'm cool, 1485 01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:14,240 Speaker 1: and it gave me a belief that I could go 1486 01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:16,200 Speaker 1: in and still rebound, like I have to go figs 1487 01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:18,680 Speaker 1: the rebound in college, Like I was cool. So I'm 1488 01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:21,440 Speaker 1: like all right when I'm watching y'all, I'm like, all right, 1489 01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:25,520 Speaker 1: cool like that you offensively right? For me, it was 1490 01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:29,920 Speaker 1: a struggle sometimes against the wiry sixteen type guys. Like 1491 01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:32,360 Speaker 1: for me, my worst matchup I always say it was 1492 01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:34,880 Speaker 1: it was Tayshaine Prince and Andre Carolinko. If I had 1493 01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:36,800 Speaker 1: a good game against one of them motherfuckers, I was. 1494 01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:39,480 Speaker 1: I felt good, you know what I'm saying. Like they 1495 01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:42,160 Speaker 1: was for real, It wasn't. They weren't coming to me. 1496 01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:45,360 Speaker 1: I could he was easy well but you know, like 1497 01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:49,360 Speaker 1: but you know, like they weren't like physically, they couldn't 1498 01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:51,560 Speaker 1: do nothing with me. I could bomb bomb bomb, but 1499 01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:53,600 Speaker 1: they had that length where they could just wait. They 1500 01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:55,840 Speaker 1: could just wait. When you get through, I'm gonna beat 1501 01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:56,600 Speaker 1: this list up. 1502 01:07:58,040 --> 01:07:58,680 Speaker 3: Was that the same? 1503 01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:01,120 Speaker 1: Did you run into those problem like like anybody your 1504 01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:03,400 Speaker 1: side or around your side, it's a mismatch. I already 1505 01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:05,360 Speaker 1: know that, but like when you get against that sixteen 1506 01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:07,000 Speaker 1: wire we dude, was that a problem? 1507 01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:08,200 Speaker 3: Same thing? Bro? 1508 01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:10,480 Speaker 4: To this day, I had scored two points on Ben 1509 01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:16,280 Speaker 4: Wallace and I'm hitting him and hitting him with the shoulders, 1510 01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:18,439 Speaker 4: hitting him, hit he just going back, going with it. 1511 01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:21,679 Speaker 4: But when it got here, here you go, here you go. Yeah, 1512 01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:24,720 Speaker 4: Marcus Camby. I was so happy when Marcus Cammy came 1513 01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:29,800 Speaker 4: to the nick. You know how skinny Marcus was. I'm 1514 01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:32,040 Speaker 4: knocking it back two feet three feet and then you 1515 01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:34,600 Speaker 4: go like this, give me that, give me that. 1516 01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:37,439 Speaker 3: Yup. Wait now it was the same. 1517 01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:40,360 Speaker 2: Way out of all the years you played, all teammates 1518 01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:44,439 Speaker 2: you done had if you had to pick four getting 1519 01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:47,000 Speaker 2: into the fotold with, and it don't matter. 1520 01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:48,640 Speaker 6: They don't got to be on the same team, they 1521 01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:49,880 Speaker 6: don't got to be the same year. 1522 01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:51,600 Speaker 2: Just all the years you can play, if you had 1523 01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:53,400 Speaker 2: to pick four of them teammates to getting the fox 1524 01:08:53,479 --> 01:08:55,360 Speaker 2: old with, who was beating four other teammates? 1525 01:08:55,400 --> 01:09:03,920 Speaker 4: Crazy? Stay Ice of course? Ice Oakley, Oh geh, check 1526 01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:07,519 Speaker 4: this out. I'm gonna mess your head over this Ice Oakley. 1527 01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:14,559 Speaker 4: Chris Childs. Yeah, Chris Child's was no pump would come 1528 01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:18,360 Speaker 4: down with the best of them, man, the best of them. 1529 01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:24,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, and the cat was hard, no man, Charlie have 1530 01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:25,439 Speaker 3: y'all met Charlie Ward. 1531 01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:30,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, man, being in the locker room with that guy, Man, 1532 01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:32,599 Speaker 4: you just want to go all out, so you guards, 1533 01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:34,840 Speaker 4: you gods are some of the hardest cat of player 1534 01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:38,320 Speaker 4: in the league. You always gotta be hard. Yeah, Charlie 1535 01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:40,040 Speaker 4: Wood Chris Child was two of the hardest cats. 1536 01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:42,760 Speaker 6: I knew because they hanging out with this with us 1537 01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:43,400 Speaker 6: big fellas. 1538 01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:47,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeahuse Charlie Wood. Christ didn't take. 1539 01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:50,479 Speaker 2: Nothing outside of Zaion. Who are some of the players 1540 01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:52,680 Speaker 2: that you see today? They remind you of some of 1541 01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:54,920 Speaker 2: the players of the older days. 1542 01:09:56,920 --> 01:09:59,600 Speaker 3: Well, we got to get physical, y'all. I'm looking. We 1543 01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:01,280 Speaker 3: look at the these youngsters and I go, okay, well, 1544 01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:02,240 Speaker 3: who could have played with us? 1545 01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:02,880 Speaker 7: You know? 1546 01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:06,559 Speaker 3: Leonard? Of course, I think. I think because he played. 1547 01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:09,400 Speaker 4: Defense first, why yeah, yeah, so I think why I 1548 01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:11,519 Speaker 4: definitely would have fit in. Of course, Lebron got the 1549 01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:14,080 Speaker 4: big body, he can play. I don't think he'd be 1550 01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:16,839 Speaker 4: as dombinant as with us as he is with these youngsters. 1551 01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:17,040 Speaker 8: You know. 1552 01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:20,560 Speaker 6: I mean he hit a lot of flow, they got it. 1553 01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:23,040 Speaker 3: He got into a lot of country, got into some fights. 1554 01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:26,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, he have to fight in challenge, you know what 1555 01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:28,880 Speaker 4: I mean. Yeah, you don't see a lot of physical 1556 01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:31,519 Speaker 4: play down low. I think even the center play is 1557 01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:34,719 Speaker 4: not there anymore. You got Joe B just dumbinanting everybody 1558 01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:36,280 Speaker 4: because he's willing to go down and do it. 1559 01:10:36,439 --> 01:10:37,120 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 1560 01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:40,120 Speaker 6: I'm liking how and be playing right now. One of 1561 01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:41,160 Speaker 6: my favorite guys. 1562 01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:41,559 Speaker 3: I hate. 1563 01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:44,679 Speaker 2: His injuries is kind of getting on him as Boogie Cousins. 1564 01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:48,000 Speaker 2: I just liked his mean attitude and just how he 1565 01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:50,720 Speaker 2: was just playing. He was real aggressive. I used to 1566 01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:52,960 Speaker 2: love Boogie Cutse. I still love him to this day. 1567 01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:55,840 Speaker 2: Injuries is on him, but he reminds me of one 1568 01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:56,840 Speaker 2: of them old school guys. 1569 01:10:57,240 --> 01:10:59,960 Speaker 3: Bring the center game back. I love Boogie. Like you said, 1570 01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:01,160 Speaker 3: we just gotta stay healthy. 1571 01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:05,160 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, all right, man, that's a rap man. This 1572 01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:06,520 Speaker 1: ain't been legendary. 1573 01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:08,880 Speaker 3: Man. We appreciate you, O G man this you don't 1574 01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:10,720 Speaker 3: even know how much you mean to us. Now. 1575 01:11:10,760 --> 01:11:13,040 Speaker 4: We appreciate you for pulling up and letting us do this. 1576 01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:17,760 Speaker 4: Young Fellow's mad respect man and continued success. Man, y'all 1577 01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:20,840 Speaker 4: keep doing what you're doing. Man, I'm watching, Yes, sir. 1578 01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:24,600 Speaker 3: D Nice, appreciate you. Thank him. Damn. We might have 1579 01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:26,320 Speaker 3: a new nickname for D d. Nice. 1580 01:11:26,360 --> 01:11:28,639 Speaker 1: I heard him saying, time D Nice, I don't won't 1581 01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:30,479 Speaker 1: give no love on that, even though you. 1582 01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:35,320 Speaker 3: Know that's kind of hume. Hey, look I don't want 1583 01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:39,680 Speaker 3: give it was nice man. I don't started something that 1584 01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:43,800 Speaker 3: I'd have heard it too many dangs man. 1585 01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:46,920 Speaker 7: I'm nice man, and nobody ever called. 1586 01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:49,800 Speaker 3: Me that I liked it too. Hey, I liked it too. 1587 01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:52,040 Speaker 3: I can't even heard I heard 1588 01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:19,360 Speaker 6: The players tribute dot com