1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,200 Speaker 1: Lush Uno back at it with my pott and to 2 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: play a bootleg keV. This is about to be a 3 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 1: crazy one. Log in with me. Come on, bhu leg 4 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: cap Podcast special guests in here, Lush, I was gonna 5 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: shave because I figure if I did, it might have 6 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: been even more difficult to distinguish us from one another. 7 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: This is like the Spider Man meme in the flesh. Okay, yeah, so, 8 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: first of all, apologize for calling you corny bro. My 9 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: bad for calling you what I called you. I think 10 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: you called me a bam bam bigelow interrexic and I 11 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 1: jerk off rappers for a living, I understand, manually stimulate them, 12 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: manually masturbate. Yeah nice. Yeah, only a few, only a few, man, Yeah, 13 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: because like, honestly, I had to get you. It was 14 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: lighthearted and no I saw I saw your comment and 15 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: you were and I saw you get me love at 16 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: the end of the interview things. Yeah yeah, like I 17 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: legit was rocking with you. That's why I kind of 18 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: hurt my heart. You know what I called I only 19 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: saw a couple of things, and I think I just 20 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 1: hated the wrap part of your guys' little Yeah. Yeah, yeah, 21 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: it was just it just wasn't great to me and 22 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: the wrap part of our trajectory over there. Yeah, so 23 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 1: how are you doing? Obviously it's been about three weeks 24 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 1: now since everything happened here. Well, it's it's been great. 25 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: Wound up securing a caffeine deal. I saw that going 26 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: going up right now. Been doing my own pod going 27 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: up right now. No, I saw you've been doing kind 28 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: of like more like a mentally like a like a 29 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: podcast that's more geared towards because you're obviously how long 30 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: have you been sober? Over three years? Well, congrats, thank you. 31 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: So the podcast that you've been doing is it more 32 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:48,559 Speaker 1: like mental health directed? So there's like it's like there's 33 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: different content that I'm doing over there. One of the 34 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: podcasts with my boy Kyle is called Ruining Hour, and 35 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: that is geared towards mental health because we're both sober. 36 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 1: Then I have one called Lush World where I'm doing 37 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: interviews kind of similar to what you got going on. 38 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: Then I'm doing streams as well. So the stream stuff's 39 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: on caffeine. Yeah, yeah, well, because rats on that. Yeah, 40 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: it seems like you landed on your feet pretty well. Man, yep, 41 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: shouts to my boy e K and the ad also 42 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: is a little bit instrumental in helping me leverage that situation. 43 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 1: So right, I think, like for anybody who doesn't know, man, 44 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 1: I grew up around everybody in my family's addicts. Everybody 45 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: from my dad to my uncle to my cousins. Every 46 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 1: single like big male member of my family was some 47 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 1: sort of addict, crack heroin, I mean, whatever you want 48 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: to call it, Right, do you remember, like because I was? 49 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 1: You know, the one thing about being somebody who loves 50 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: somebody who's an addict is the most frustrating part is 51 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 1: trying to get them to get clean before they're ready 52 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: to get clean. It's almost like you got to kind 53 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: of just let them fall on their face or hit 54 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: rock bottom. What was your rock bottom? See it's weird 55 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: because my eating bottom is essential to getting silver. But 56 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: for me, there was a series of different bottoms, and 57 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: I would think that I hit bottom and then boom, 58 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: I go down through the floorboards, and then I'm in 59 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 1: the cellar, and then boom, I go through the cellar 60 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: and next thing I know, I'm starting to smell sulfur 61 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 1: and I'm approaching the seventh layer of hell, And yeah, 62 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: what was that what was the seventh layer of Heil 63 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: rock Bottom? Were you sucking dick? You never suck no 64 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: motherfucking dick. Hell no, he was like, and then I 65 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: realized what I was on my knees about to blow 66 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: this truck or for no no, no, no, no, no, 67 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: no no, just you know, pitiful incomprehensible demoralization, just lying 68 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: like being a strange for my family, my friends. You know, 69 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: I've experienced anything you pretty much could besides sucking dick. 70 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: You know, I've been been shot at, being stabbed, be incarcerated, 71 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: overdose a group of times, had hits all my life. 72 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: So you know, yeah, I got one cousin of mine 73 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: who in and out of jail's whole life has overdosed 74 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: over and over. He's been stabbed, he's been shot. I 75 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: mean this, dude, it's it's crazy, and it's like then 76 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: my uncle Scott. Shout to my uncle Scott, who just 77 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: got out of prison for the fucking ninety eighth time. 78 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: He just messaged me on Facebook. I could shot Uncle Scott. Man, 79 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 1: welcome home, Scott. Come on, He's like, I promise you 80 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: this my last time, Kevin. I hope everything's all round like, bruh. 81 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: When I was a kid, this dude used to come 82 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 1: to my house because he was tweaking so fucking hard, 83 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: running around with the Hell's angels. This motherfucker would be 84 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: sitting at my sink picking his fucking face thinking there 85 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: was bugs in his fucking tweaking. Yeah, so I used 86 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: to go into the bathroom be fucking blood everywhere. Then 87 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 1: my other uncle and aunt, we used to go to 88 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: their house to play with my cousins, and all the 89 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 1: fucking spoons were burnt. Yeah, it's a fucked up life, man, Yeah. Yeah, 90 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: that attic life is serious and for you, like, because 91 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 1: there's a few different ways. Obviously there's like did you 92 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: go through AA or NA rather Well, yeah, I'm in 93 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: a twelve step program, but I did go to treatment 94 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 1: as well. And when I agreed to go to treatment, 95 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: I had pretty much gotten to the point where I 96 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 1: felt like I had no more moves the bus. I 97 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: had already exhausted all my resources. You know, anybody that 98 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: was foolish enough to still be close to me, my 99 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: fiance at the time, any of my friends, they were 100 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: like not fucking with me, and it was either that 101 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: or pretty much die. I had no other options, and 102 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: I've been in a lot of treatment centers over the years. 103 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 1: The first time I was sixteen, you know, I went 104 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 1: to Juvie got arrested for the first time at thirteen. 105 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: The spot that I went to was for chronic relapsers. Basically, 106 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: it's like, if you don't get sober, here, it's a 107 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 1: wrap for you. This is the last stop on the train. 108 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 1: And I thought that I qualified as a chronic relapser. 109 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: But then I realized I've never actually relapsed because I 110 00:05:56,200 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 1: never made an earnest attempt at sobriety in my life. So, yeah, 111 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: one of my uncles, my uncle Rocky, has a drug 112 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: rehab called he was a huge heroin addict. He used 113 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: to shoot up right here, damn yeah, because yeah, and 114 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: he didn't want anybody to see us. He was shoot 115 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: up in his fucking eyelids. But this motherfucker got clean, 116 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: started a drug rehab and then when I was like sixteen, 117 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 1: I started working for him in like a Dennin can store. 118 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: But he had the same type of program called the 119 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: Herd six program, and it was all people who they 120 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: were like on their last they were like habitual relapsers. 121 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: And man, so I was like fifteen sixteen working in 122 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 1: a fucking Dennin can store, just with a bunch of 123 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: fucking recovering dope fiends. Then I turned eighteen and I 124 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: got a job running his consignment car lot. Literally every 125 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 1: employee was a fucking freshly recovered drug add So I 126 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:53,119 Speaker 1: was babysitting dope fiends at eighteen years old. That man 127 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 1: crazy life. Shout out to everybody's who's staying clean? So 128 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 1: for you, was it like, because I always hear like 129 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 1: there's because you know, nowadays, especially being in Cali, there's 130 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: like weed, there's there's psychedelics, there's California sober correct, right, 131 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: so for you, you're sober sober. Yeah, I can't fuck 132 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: with none of that ship. So if you smoke weed, 133 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: you feel like it can kind of be a gateway 134 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: for I don't want to tempt fate, you know, Like 135 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: I'm still high. I've donet smoke so much weed in 136 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: my past right to the point where like I have 137 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,679 Speaker 1: no like, I have no desire to even try it again. 138 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: You know, who knows in the future. I just know 139 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: for right now, for today, I'm not fucking with it. Yeah, 140 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: I just there was somebody I just saw on Joe Rogans. 141 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: They're they're cleaning sober, but they were like considering trying. 142 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:43,679 Speaker 1: I think ayahuasca. Yeah see, like you know I've already 143 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: had them psychedelic, You've already experiences. There's no real if 144 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: I would do that for me, that would be your relapse. 145 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: Because I just want to get high. I just want 146 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: to get outside my body. But that's nothing that I 147 00:07:56,160 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: can attain with, you know, prayer, meditation, I can do 148 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: all that and reach that same level of consciousness as 149 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: to where I don't need were a lot of your 150 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: friend's family, I know I saw some of the fans 151 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: or maybe a little worried that with the situation that 152 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: just happened to a no jumper, that you your sobriety 153 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: might have been in question, or you might have maybe 154 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: gotten mentally hit by it, or did it did it 155 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: bother you in that way? Were you able to kind 156 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: of get through it. I was able to get through it, 157 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 1: by the grace of God. However, I will say the 158 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: closest I've gotten to relapsing, the only time I was 159 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: like considering it, really considering it, was after Adam kicked 160 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: me out that day and I was driving around the valley. 161 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 1: You feel me like driving around the valley not stopping 162 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 1: because I knew that if I stopped, I was going 163 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 1: to go to a liquor store and get on and 164 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: get I get something, get me a little bottle and 165 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: get it. That day, that day, what was it that 166 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: made you? What did you call? Do you have a sponsor? 167 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 1: I do have a sponsor, and I call my sponsor 168 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 1: and like that was between him that's dope and people 169 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: that are close to me, they want up talking you 170 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: off the ledge. And I realized, Nam, yeah, not how 171 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:05,959 Speaker 1: I want to move. But yeah, no, it was really 172 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: it got dark. Yeah, dude, I mean I can only 173 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 1: imagine because I do see, like even just being on 174 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: the show the day, because I got hit up the 175 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: day then all that happened. We were at lunch and 176 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: because you'll film the next day, right the next morning. Yeah, 177 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 1: and we're at lunch and Adam just hit me. He's like, hey, 178 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: this is what happened. You're down to be a guest 179 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 1: on the show tomorrow. Just I just need a fill in. 180 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, whatever, I've been on the show before. 181 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: I was like, cool, I got you, bro, Like Adam's 182 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: always been super stand up with me, you know. And 183 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: but then I really like didn't really really realize like 184 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: oh eighties about because eighty called me and eighty talked 185 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: and he was like, dude, I'm about to quit, right 186 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: And I was like Jesus Christ, like what am I 187 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: walking into? And then everyone assumed I'm like the permanent 188 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: new guy on the show, right, So well, you had 189 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:58,559 Speaker 1: to do that. It is kind of like a New 190 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: York version of ad You had like a lush one 191 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: Adjason's character. Correct, It's like, oh look, yeah, you're white. Yeah, okay. 192 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: It was like, oh, there's a white guy with a 193 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: fitted baseball game, right right, yeah, So I think I 194 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 1: just and then I didn't know about the Reddit thing, 195 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: and then I went on Reddit and I was like, 196 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: oh this is wild. Yeah, it gets deep. Do you 197 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: regret diving into that part of it? Not even for 198 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 1: the result of what ended up happening, but just I 199 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: do feel like I could see how going and looking 200 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: in that toxic ass thing and seeing everyone's opinion and 201 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: just kind of seeing all the negative bullshit that gets 202 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: said in there could probably like subconsciously fuck with you. 203 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: Well here's the thing, yes, is the short answer. However, 204 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 1: right before I wound up because you know, first me 205 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: and Disaster had the our own podcast, Jump On No Jump. 206 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 1: I remember that, yeah, and it was cool, and we 207 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: were just focusing on battle rapping just lyricists, which is 208 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: like the lay that I'm in. Another reason why you 209 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,199 Speaker 1: and I are kind of similar. We're both hardcore hip 210 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: hop fanatics, you feel me like. And then they wound 211 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,719 Speaker 1: up bringing me on the main podcast I'm a No 212 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,959 Speaker 1: Jumper show, and then people really took to me, and 213 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 1: I wound up becoming a staple over there or just 214 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: one of them. I feel like at one point in time, 215 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: I felt like anytime I'd like to see a thumbnail 216 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: you were on it was like yeah, absolutely, within the 217 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 1: past six months, I was on that channel more than 218 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: anybody else. So what happened was right before I wound 219 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 1: up being brought on to the other podcasts, I would 220 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,319 Speaker 1: had hit a low in my life and was very depressed, 221 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 1: going through a lot of changes, and it was just 222 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: like down. You know, my my Chicken Eyes split up, 223 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: my mom was terminally diagnosed with terminal illness. You know, 224 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 1: my company was going through a lot of changes, my 225 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: battle rap league, so I just felt like really unstable 226 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: and you know, I was like, damn near suicidal. I 227 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 1: was suicidal. This is prior to you in disaster, this 228 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 1: is this is after after disaster and I and before 229 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: I got right regular. So I was super depressed. I 230 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 1: wound up going on the show. When I'm on there, 231 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, they're probably not gonna fuck with me, like 232 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: the craft, the audience, don't you know. I'm I'm older, 233 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 1: I'm not really in the same vein. There's a lot 234 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: of the people on. They're probably not going to fuck 235 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: with me. But then all of the comments were like 236 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: overwhelmingly positive, and people start bombarding my Instagram and like 237 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 1: telling me to go to the reddit and all that, 238 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: And at that point, I was so depressed. The only 239 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: thing that was really keeping me going was going and 240 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: seeing the positivity you were getting right right at that time. Yeah, 241 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: they're Reddit. The YouTube comments is your social media. So 242 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: that really if it wasn't for that, I don't know 243 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 1: if I would have made it through that dark period. 244 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 1: So I'm I'm grateful to the Reddit for that. However, 245 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 1: I had to, I should have separated myself at a 246 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,559 Speaker 1: certain point, but it because you know my addicts mentality. 247 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,679 Speaker 1: It's literally like chasing. I can see how that is addictive. 248 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: This validation is you know, sure for for for an addict, 249 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:09,839 Speaker 1: and even just then even because you're a part of 250 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: it and you just want to probably just be like, 251 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 1: what are these motherfuckers saying about? Right ABC or D. Look, 252 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: everybody over there check the reddit, whether they want to 253 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: admit it or not. They like some more than others. 254 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 1: But everybody is is peeping the reddit to some extent, 255 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 1: not like I was. I was actively posting on there. 256 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: And then at a certain point when the when these 257 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 1: people in the reddit saw that I was going in there, 258 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 1: like oh well, we could get a reaction out of him. 259 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: So then like and then when the when the pendulum 260 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: inevitably swings to the other side from that love to 261 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: them not fucking with me and dissecting me. And you 262 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 1: know what I mean that right there, I was trying 263 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 1: to win them over and it became like this vicious cycle. Yeah. 264 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:52,959 Speaker 1: I can only imagine, man, because like you know, I 265 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: got a family, I got kids, and shit, I'm like, bro, 266 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: I would never want to be uh. I mean, I 267 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 1: feel like the type of ship I do. I purposely 268 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: don't touch certain shit because I don't want to like 269 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: overexpose myself, I guess, and my kids and my girl 270 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: and shit. So I even told Adam when all this 271 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 1: shit has been going on the last few weeks, I 272 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: was like, Bro, you got some fucking thick skin, brother, 273 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: because this shit is crazy. They would have been on 274 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: your last if you had gone over there permanently yet, 275 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: but even just like just seeing, like you know, because 276 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: I know Adam like could addressed whatever allegations over and over. 277 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: So I'm like, Yo, this shit got brought back up, 278 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: and I'm like, bro, here's the thing, and I want 279 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: your opinion on this. I genuinely believe that if Adam 280 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: had not gone on that pod right when I was 281 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: on there and fired me in the very unceremonious manner 282 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: in which he did, a lot of that shit wouldn't 283 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: have happened. I agree, And I think I might have 284 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: said something to that effect on the podcast. I think 285 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: you might have. Yeah, I did. I did. I did 286 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: say something like that. I was like, because I do 287 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: think that that moment was so vibe role and it 288 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: also highlighted whatever said issues that And I even told 289 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: they do this when he was on here. I was like, 290 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 1: you were planning on leaving because there's no way, thick 291 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: skinned ass Ad I know, got so mad about someone 292 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: saying he has four jokes that he quit like you 293 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: was playing this shit, n But but here's the thing. 294 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: Ad for Shoe was there and I've been telling him 295 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: he should leave. I told him and t Rail like 296 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: you guys should be the fucking La drink champs and 297 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: they and they got their own thing going going really 298 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: well for them. Here's the thing. It kind of forced 299 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 1: AD's hand, it did with it being puzzled it was, 300 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: and it was also a nice opportunity if you were 301 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: planning on leaving already and those wheels already in motion, 302 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: it was a nice opportunity to kind of take advantage 303 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: of the of the you know, the virality of the moment. 304 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: And I think it was mutual. I think that Adam 305 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: and No Jumper was wanting to pivot away from that, 306 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: considering they already a certain point. It's a conflict of 307 00:15:56,680 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: interest when there's other podcasts with I don't want to 308 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: say regurgitating but utilizing the same content that you are 309 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: and getting more abused for it. I'd assume he probably 310 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: regrets firing at the time, and like not to say 311 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: that he shouldn't have fired me, but he could have 312 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: easily taken me outside. No, I think, and I think 313 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: he explained it to me, like, if you catch some 314 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 1: girl cheating on you and she's at work and you're 315 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: in the next room, if you cut your girl cheating 316 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: on you, you're gonna be so fucking pissed you're fucking 317 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: going in then you're fucking up her job, like, and 318 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I get it if like you 319 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 1: guys had that relationship, and he truly felt like what 320 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: the fuck? Like it was shortsighted, and that is why 321 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: people should not ever make certain decisions when they're emotional, 322 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: because you always regret those decisions. But I do think 323 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: that had he handled it a little bit, and I'm 324 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: sure he would admit the same thing. But here's the thing, Like, 325 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: to an extent, and that's what I was kind of 326 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: going back and forth in my head, was well, he 327 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: just so mad, and I don't know that was an element, 328 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: but I honestly think that's capped to an extent. It 329 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: might be because it was a moment and the reason 330 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: why I think that he thought that he was gonna 331 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: dunk on me, You feel me and everybody was just 332 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: gonna be like, oh, damn, Adam just fucking marked Lush out. 333 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: Damn Lush is such a snake, fuck him. And they 334 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: were gonna be like, yeah, Adam, you're the man. You 335 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: look so cool. Because if if this is something he regretted, 336 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:22,919 Speaker 1: then why did he post it? Not only on the 337 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 1: note collab post. That's the one thing. I the collab 338 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: post is crazy. I think I said that at lunch 339 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:31,919 Speaker 1: because I think he said, my boy our showed me 340 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, he collap posts, so not 341 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 1: only the no Jumper fans are going to see it, 342 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: but his fans, And now he has gotten millions of views. 343 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: Ninety five percent of the comments are on his helmet, 344 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 1: Like this is a dude that has stated several times 345 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: and this isn't a disc Adham at all, because you know, 346 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:54,919 Speaker 1: ultimately all this aside, I do respect him. You know, 347 00:17:55,760 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 1: he said everything is content, everything is fair again, you know, 348 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: so I believe he's like fuck it, like, oh, firing Lush, 349 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 1: that's one thing. Let's fire Lush on on the air. 350 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: And then it wound up, you know, kind of having 351 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: an adverse effect that he hadn't anticipated for you as 352 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: short lived, because what you would would you say you 353 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: were in a regular on No Jumper from September? Okay, 354 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 1: so about seven or six months? Yeah, six seven months? 355 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: Yeah for you, even though it ended the way it ended, 356 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: even though there might be bad blood now, it did 357 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 1: change your life absolutely, and it kind of puts you 358 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: in a position to kind of explore a new career 359 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: path or a new path of like because you've always 360 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: kind of been a personality and ye, but now you 361 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: can go and do caffeine. And I'm sure like not 362 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: without No Jumper, those things probably don't present themselves correct, 363 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: and who knows the trajectory of life, something else could 364 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 1: have popped up, you know what I mean. Like, but 365 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:56,719 Speaker 1: absolutely so, I'm very I'm grateful for what happened. Like 366 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: as far as me, you know, No Jumpers a platform 367 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 1: that I loved for years. I'm grateful for my boy 368 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: Disaster for presenting that opportunity to me and making that happen. 369 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:10,199 Speaker 1: And if it wasn't for that, yeah, I wouldn't be 370 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:12,199 Speaker 1: doing what I'm doing now. I wouldn't. You know. My 371 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: fan base tripled since I went over there, So it's dope, 372 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 1: you know, but like kind of like you said, though, 373 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:23,719 Speaker 1: like certain things that were brought about in that conversation 374 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: in the moment where he was firing me were things 375 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:30,439 Speaker 1: that weren't even discussed, which wound up biting him in 376 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:33,919 Speaker 1: the ass further because there was no conversation about salaries. 377 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: Although yeah, was I just kind of stirred up all 378 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 1: these right? Was I six figures up? Yes? But like 379 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: that was never something I discussed with those people in 380 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 1: the discord. And then like Trell and these other people 381 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,640 Speaker 1: are like, yo, well hold up, why is buddy over 382 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 1: here getting paid this and I'm getting paid that? And 383 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 1: I'm supposed to be the star over here? Like it 384 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 1: just created a has sold a lot of seeds of discontent. 385 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 1: Were you making more than everybody over there? I was 386 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 1: one of the I was one of the higher paid people. 387 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: Or was it like what you and Ad? Probably? Yeah, 388 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: probably something like that. I don't know what everyone gets paid. 389 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: You were also there, though, I mean to be fair, 390 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: While t Rail and Ad were probably the quote unquote 391 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 1: stars of No Jumper, you probably were there more. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 392 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: I was. I went four or five days a week. Yeah. 393 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 1: But the thing is this what happened was due to 394 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 1: the like when a d was when ad started Community 395 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:31,360 Speaker 1: and Trail started back on fig. There was no precedent, 396 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,439 Speaker 1: said Adam had no idea that those that was going 397 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 1: to take off the way there, There was no precedent 398 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: before them to be like I could put these guys 399 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: in a contract, right, and even like, look, I approached 400 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 1: Adam towards the end of last year kind of having 401 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 1: an awareness about that and was like, Yo, I want 402 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 1: to start doing my own streaming and podcasting, Like I 403 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: want to offer you guys a percentage of the revenue 404 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:54,880 Speaker 1: of whatever I do. You know what I mean? Because 405 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: if it wasn't it wasn't for y'all, I wouldn't be 406 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 1: in this position. And then there Adam was like take 407 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: in the back and he was like, whoa, I've never 408 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: even considered that, but like we'll talk about it to 409 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: get back to you. Instead, what they wound up doing 410 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 1: is presenting me with the contract, which is exclusive exclusivity 411 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: where they didn't want me to do anything else besides 412 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 1: no Jeffers. Yeah, which apparently is now like the precedent 413 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: they're setting with everybody there, you know where they just 414 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: fired a bunch of people. 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So 537 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 1: for you, what is something that because you kind of 538 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: were in the middle of the peak of the dysfunction 539 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 1: in terms of just like if we were to think 540 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: about like the on camera drama at No Jumper, you 541 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: were pretty much there for all the all the hits, 542 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: all the greatest hits, a lot of them. So for you, like, 543 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 1: is there anything that you regret from that era or oh? Absolutely? 544 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: Like what absolutely? But now, to be fair, a lot 545 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: of that shit started before I was even in the mix, right, 546 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 1: and then you have nothing to do with the house 547 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 1: phone thing, yeah, yeah, And then there were prior to 548 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 1: me being even like a prominent character over there, there 549 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 1: was Trel and there's the Trel and Almighty Suspects. There's 550 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 1: like a lot of different things. But what I really 551 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:17,919 Speaker 1: regret because I feel like, going into January, we were 552 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: on a very harmonious level. Everybody was getting along, We're 553 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,439 Speaker 1: all fucking with each other. We had that you know 554 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 1: that that video I posted earlier was from the Christmas party. 555 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 1: Everybody's like we're one big, happy family, right, And then 556 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: in the beginning of January, I wound up. You know, 557 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: Adam told you about it, how he like encouraged me 558 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 1: to get at Flocko and shit, I regret I should 559 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 1: have never done that because that completely violates my moral 560 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 1: compass as just a man in recovery. Like now, I 561 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: get making fun of people is one thing, joking around, 562 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 1: we all can hoo ride each other. But I think 563 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 1: that I took it way too far and a lot 564 00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 1: and was did something that I knew was wrong, even 565 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 1: though I was asked to do it by my boss, 566 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,959 Speaker 1: who I was trying to, you know, who I wanted 567 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 1: to be happy with me. But at the same time, 568 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 1: it wound up setting in motion. Not only was it 569 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 1: wrong to Flacco, who I'm cool with now, but it's 570 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 1: set in the motion a chain of events which kind 571 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 1: of led to where we're at right now. Crazy. A 572 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: lot of people are saying that you might be suing. 573 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 1: I mean, if I was, I wouldn't talk about that anyways, right, 574 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 1: That's fair, I was gonna say, because like, I think, 575 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 1: like there's a few ways to look at the whole situation. 576 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: It's like, if you sue, it's like, I mean, I 577 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: don't know if that bridge is ever going to be unburned, 578 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: but it kind of really burns the bridge absolutely. I 579 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 1: mean I feel like there's no bridge. There's no the bridge. Yeah, 580 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 1: over the bridges, also the bridges Paris one. Yeah. Yeah, 581 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 1: just South Bronx right here. You feel me for people 582 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 1: who don't know, like kind of give me your like 583 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 1: roots in terms of hip hop and like getting involved 584 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 1: in the battle scene. You know, I've been involved in 585 00:29:55,880 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 1: hip hop culture my whole life started. Started apping when 586 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 1: I was fifteen in the mid nineties. Used to go 587 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 1: to Project Bload and things like that, and just like 588 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: you know, element is that on Tuesday night, Thursday, Thursday, 589 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 1: Thursday Night. I missed the good life era. Yeah, I 590 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 1: was too much of a kid, but I always heard 591 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 1: about it. Yeah yeah yeah, And I was like, you know, 592 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 1: just soaking up the game and soaking up culture. Moved 593 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 1: born and raised in Los Angeles, moved to the Bay 594 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 1: Area to Oakland, California, when I was nineteen, and that's 595 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 1: really when my you know, in a career as a 596 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 1: battle rapper started. I started off as a battle rapper, 597 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 1: got a lot of buzz locally, and then it started 598 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 1: to grow bigger. I was in a popular local group 599 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 1: called Delmont crew at the time, we were pretty much 600 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 1: in Oakland. In Oakland, anytime there would be this this 601 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 1: is like from two thousand and three to you know, 602 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 1: that's like yeah, straight Hyphie era. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So 603 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 1: we were there. I was there for the whole entire 604 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 1: hype movement and kind of like what we were as 605 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: a crew. Shout to my brothers Plex Rock and Ajax. 606 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 1: We were like kind of no no, no, no no no no, 607 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 1: Like we were like like, if you saw the way 608 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 1: we dressed and shit, you would think we were just 609 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 1: regular Hyphie rappers, but we were super lyrical and like 610 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: we would do like boom bap tracks and then we 611 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 1: would do like Hyphie turn up shit like too. Like 612 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: we had music with mister Fab and all that, and 613 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 1: we had music with Hiro and you know, Sean Price 614 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 1: for the first group from Oakland to do a song 615 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 1: with RP Sean Peah. Yeah. So yeah, and that was 616 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 1: like a whole thing, and then it wound up. The 617 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 1: battle rap things started popping off, and at a certain 618 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 1: point in two thousand and eight, I linked up with 619 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 1: this company called grind Time, which was like the first 620 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 1: prominent battle rap fixture on YouTube, and it got to 621 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 1: the point where and they started in Florida. Me being 622 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 1: from the West Coast, it was like, look, I know 623 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 1: I got some talent as an MC, but I'm way 624 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 1: better as like a curator of culture and organizer and 625 00:31:58,160 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 1: a host and like just like kind of you know, 626 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: I mean, so I wound up and it wasn't even 627 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 1: like that I was. I won't say that I was 628 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 1: the most organized of any of my friends, but I 629 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 1: was at least disorganized. So you were trying to so 630 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 1: essentially you got brought on to grind time to help 631 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 1: bring events together. Yeah, and I wounds. Yeah. 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This one is a Latino 700 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 1: owned company. Yeah yeah, but I'm not sure the origins 701 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,879 Speaker 1: of all the components. Yeah, I was, because I've only 702 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 1: done whed in troops. The honey all my family scared 703 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,400 Speaker 1: me from drugs. The honey packs work and I and 704 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 1: you know, I talked to my sponsor before I indulge. 705 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 1: It is not considered a relapse. So you can do 706 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 1: a honey pack. I can do a honey pack. I 707 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 1: love it so back in the day I was twenty 708 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:08,360 Speaker 1: years What's the best drug for sex? Ecstasy? Hands down? Again, 709 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 1: you have to be mindful of the erection issue, you 710 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:16,760 Speaker 1: know what I mean, It's possible it is do a viagran. 711 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 1: I've never tied viagra before, really, but yeah, like rather 712 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:25,400 Speaker 1: or a bluetoo rather or a honeypack. But however, what 713 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 1: I like a lot of people like really like percocets 714 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,799 Speaker 1: for sex. And it's I've heard that because it because 715 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 1: it makes numbs, indulged your senses to the point where 716 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,440 Speaker 1: you could just you're gonna last a long time. You're 717 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:43,399 Speaker 1: gonna be per perk dick. I've done the perk dick, 718 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:47,400 Speaker 1: done honey dick. But yeah, for me, ecstasy and the 719 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:53,480 Speaker 1: biggest pause, the biggest rum thing that I miss from 720 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 1: drugs of anything, is like the drug and sex combination. 721 00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,359 Speaker 1: And because it elevates your sex a little. It did, 722 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 1: and I had to learn, like I'm so used to 723 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,440 Speaker 1: being fucked up since i was twelve years old. Thirteen 724 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 1: years old, twelve actually is when I first started getting 725 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,719 Speaker 1: eye to the point where I had to relearn how 726 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,840 Speaker 1: to do everything so normally. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, like you 727 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 1: gotta kind of almost retrain your body. Yeah, your brain 728 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:22,480 Speaker 1: boom there it is state dependent dependent learning hashtag that 729 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 1: to the point where I literally, you know, like having 730 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:29,240 Speaker 1: a conversation, you know, doing something like throwing a ball, 731 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,880 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like you just have to 732 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 1: relearn how to do anything music, Yeah, having sex, Like 733 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,400 Speaker 1: I was super nervous the first time I had sex 734 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 1: in sobriety because I was like, what okay? Because I always, 735 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,839 Speaker 1: for whatever reason, crack seems to be the drug most 736 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 1: straight men will suck dick for is if you were 737 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 1: to tell me which drug feels the best when you 738 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,759 Speaker 1: first try it, because I always feel like it's got 739 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,760 Speaker 1: to be cracker. Heroin, Yeah, I mean, because you obviously 740 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 1: people hit heroin and they're just like the thing, Well, 741 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,399 Speaker 1: here's the thing. Crack is like same ship. It's like 742 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:08,719 Speaker 1: doing opiates, like in order to get to Heroin. Like, 743 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,319 Speaker 1: if you if a regular person or even someone if 744 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 1: you just sipped lean a few times or this or 745 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 1: that right and you went to Heroin, you'd be sick, 746 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 1: You'd be throwing up. It wouldn't feel good. So if 747 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 1: you go straight to the black tar, you can't. You can't. 748 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,760 Speaker 1: You got to work your way up to that crack 749 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,200 Speaker 1: when you first you know, the first time you smoke crack, 750 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,880 Speaker 1: you yeah it's lit. Yeah, But I would say like, 751 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:35,480 Speaker 1: and honestly, psychedelics like to me, felt the best first 752 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 1: time I shroomed out. Yeah, like, I love that. I 753 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,719 Speaker 1: love psychedelics for sure. Yeah, I've never tried crack. I 754 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,479 Speaker 1: don't plan on it. Don't do it. I won't. I won't, 755 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,839 Speaker 1: don't do it, don't do it. I gotta stay away. Man. 756 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 1: My whole family is on that ship, so you know, 757 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:52,440 Speaker 1: you can live vicariously through my past. But yeah, Crystal 758 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,759 Speaker 1: math was another one that felt really good when I 759 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 1: first tried it. And my baby mama was a mathad 760 00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,440 Speaker 1: shout out to her. That's a big thing. And is 761 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,239 Speaker 1: she from Aaron owner too, that's a big thing. In 762 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 1: as the first couple of rehabs I went to were 763 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 1: in a Wickenberg. Yes, I did go to the meadows. Yeah, 764 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,359 Speaker 1: a couple of times I was in Wickenberg, and uh, 765 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,759 Speaker 1: I was in another spot called the Prescott House Prescott, yeah, yeah, 766 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,800 Speaker 1: and Prescott, Arizona. You say it the right way, the 767 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:22,239 Speaker 1: right way, the right yeah, yeah. Yeah. They made it clear, like, 768 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 1: don't say Prescott, it's precos you Prescott's Yeah, a bunch 769 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:30,560 Speaker 1: of old up there. No, that's a fucked up town, bro, Like, yeah, 770 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:34,120 Speaker 1: shout out the press. Prescott and Prescott Valley, Prescott TV 771 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 1: is Gnar Levi. But yeah, So for you, what are 772 00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,200 Speaker 1: the lessons that you kind of learned from the last 773 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 1: year or so that you're going to try to apply 774 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:44,759 Speaker 1: to your own content, And what are the good things 775 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:46,720 Speaker 1: that you've learned too, because you, I mean, obviously Adams 776 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 1: have built the powerhouse. Yeah, absolutely, Like I've learned a 777 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 1: lot about I've learned the whole craft of podcasting. And 778 00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,200 Speaker 1: I'm sure you can test to this is not as 779 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,600 Speaker 1: easy as it looks like. You have to like being 780 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,759 Speaker 1: able to conversate with you, like I can tell like 781 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,320 Speaker 1: you know what you're doing, you know how to podcast. 782 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 1: There's a whole skill set that goes into it. You 783 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,960 Speaker 1: have to kind of know how to steer a conversation 784 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:13,680 Speaker 1: when it's getting redundant, what's gonna be interesting, How not 785 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:17,160 Speaker 1: to repeat yourself, how not to say like like like 786 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,080 Speaker 1: a hundred times, there's a whole And so I learned 787 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:24,520 Speaker 1: the entire craft of podcasting and I'm fairly decent at 788 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 1: it at this point. I'm grateful for that. So you're 789 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,160 Speaker 1: gonna be how many days a week are you gonna 790 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,480 Speaker 1: be doing content? I'm gonna be doing content three days 791 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:36,200 Speaker 1: a week. Nice. So, but I'm gonna be focused on 792 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,240 Speaker 1: focusing on it a lot more. But really my primary 793 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,400 Speaker 1: focus all that aside my brother Disaster and I. We 794 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,880 Speaker 1: have our Battle Rap League gt X, which is the 795 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 1: continuation of grind Time, and that's been That's what I 796 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:52,759 Speaker 1: was doing before the whole podcasting thing took off. And 797 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,799 Speaker 1: you know, like this is my passion and my roots 798 00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,239 Speaker 1: are in the battle rap culture, and I'm it's an 799 00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 1: honor to be back. We got our first event of 800 00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,520 Speaker 1: the year called the Lot in a few North Holly 801 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:06,840 Speaker 1: in North Hollywood. Yeah, who's battling. We got Disaster Verus Next, 802 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:10,879 Speaker 1: we got Denny Myers versus dev the Demon. We got 803 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 1: Active versus real name Brandon and a litany of other 804 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,400 Speaker 1: fire ass battles, botead ass. What is the business model 805 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,239 Speaker 1: of the battle leak thing? Are you guys making money 806 00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:21,920 Speaker 1: off of pay per views? You guys, I mean obviously 807 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 1: you're making hard ticket money, I'm sure, but like I know, 808 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:27,960 Speaker 1: a lot of these guys, they demand a purse. Yes, right, yeah, 809 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:31,800 Speaker 1: you gotta fire. I'd always was a little confused about how, 810 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 1: like how the business model of a battle works. Well, 811 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:36,560 Speaker 1: you kind of got to think of it in a 812 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,640 Speaker 1: similar vein to boxing or MMA. So you guys have 813 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,359 Speaker 1: a pay per view site. We have a pay per 814 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,399 Speaker 1: view site. We're work in conjunction with a company called 815 00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,719 Speaker 1: rap Grid that does paper. But all you got to 816 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,399 Speaker 1: do is go to our website GTX Battles dot com 817 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,479 Speaker 1: and you can there's links to the paper. People gonna 818 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,400 Speaker 1: can watch it from wherever. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But 819 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,120 Speaker 1: the as far as the business model goes things such 820 00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,920 Speaker 1: as pay per view and you know, ticket sales and 821 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,600 Speaker 1: all that, that's kind of just feeding the event and 822 00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,360 Speaker 1: making sure that we're able to sustain ourselves. What we 823 00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,760 Speaker 1: do is covers the cost. Right. We partner with any 824 00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:13,239 Speaker 1: brand that wants business. We sell eyeballs, you know, so 825 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,400 Speaker 1: you can got millions of people and a concentrated demographic. 826 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:20,640 Speaker 1: Any of you companies want some eyeballs, we got them. Yeah. 827 00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,440 Speaker 1: I just saw what was the battle that just happened 828 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,560 Speaker 1: that s and Cassidy Brat. Yeah that was the you 829 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,880 Speaker 1: were there. I was there. Yeah, I go yeah, daylight 830 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,000 Speaker 1: versus King Boo. And who do you think is the goat? 831 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,480 Speaker 1: My brother sitting on the sitting on the couch over there, 832 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:43,680 Speaker 1: goat is sitting on the damn couch scrolling Reddit, there's 833 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:47,200 Speaker 1: a you know, if it's disasters, who else who's it? Like? 834 00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:51,200 Speaker 1: Who's in that like four or five? Yeah? R I 835 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,359 Speaker 1: p to past day? He definitely Yeah, yeah past day 836 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 1: one thousand percent. He just passed away last year I did, 837 00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:01,680 Speaker 1: he did. Yeah, a bad situation. Yeah, Shasa shoutsa Pats 838 00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:05,239 Speaker 1: Day and the whole KOTD family. I'll say this, the 839 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:10,279 Speaker 1: West coast, the West coast, Mount Rushmore, there is there's 840 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:16,000 Speaker 1: a disaster. There's Geeche Gotti, rum Nitty Denny Myers Daylight. 841 00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,600 Speaker 1: So there's a five man you know, that's the crew. 842 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:23,680 Speaker 1: I'll put the saurus in immaculate. Yeah, passwords like, there's 843 00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:29,000 Speaker 1: very strong top eight on the West coast now, b 844 00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,280 Speaker 1: dot probably I would throw up there too. There's there's 845 00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,000 Speaker 1: now As far as the overall landscape of the culture, 846 00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:41,120 Speaker 1: you got Disaster, you got loaded Lux, you got murder, Mook, 847 00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:45,960 Speaker 1: Hollow the Dawn, you got Conceded, you got Arsenal, and 848 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:51,000 Speaker 1: you got you know, those same names. The Saurus ended 849 00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,600 Speaker 1: up making the best music because that's the one thing 850 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,959 Speaker 1: about battle rappers we always say. Because I always enjoyed 851 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,760 Speaker 1: Sue's music, I want to say surf makes my favorite 852 00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,319 Speaker 1: music in battle rapper. But you got it. Like, the 853 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:06,040 Speaker 1: thing is this, every single rapper has battled at some point. 854 00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,279 Speaker 1: Eminem was a battle rapper, you know what I mean 855 00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:14,399 Speaker 1: a lot of so everybody. Yeah, yeah, everyone's battled at 856 00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,120 Speaker 1: some point, whether it's in the cafeteria, whether it was 857 00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,800 Speaker 1: on camera or not. The question right right, But from 858 00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:23,319 Speaker 1: like the battle rap scene, I would say that, Yeah, 859 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,200 Speaker 1: Suser definitely has the strongest catalog, dude, because I remember 860 00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,640 Speaker 1: seeing Supernatural when I was a little kid. I think 861 00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,560 Speaker 1: he opened up like wan to dilate his tours just 862 00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:35,399 Speaker 1: blew my fucking mind. Three words. But I'd never seen 863 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,560 Speaker 1: that before. Right where he was like taking people's IDs 864 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,560 Speaker 1: and ship he was spinning around and coming back as 865 00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:43,640 Speaker 1: exhibit or bust the rhymes or whatever. Right, and and 866 00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,359 Speaker 1: his music wasn't great, Well that's the thing, Like yeah, 867 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,239 Speaker 1: like he and it hurt my heart because I was like, 868 00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,280 Speaker 1: this is the greatest rapper I've ever seen about life 869 00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,400 Speaker 1: is not a mutually exclusive skill set, true, you know. 870 00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,960 Speaker 1: And even like a lot of the guys that are 871 00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:00,680 Speaker 1: just great barsmiths, you know, dudes that well you'll have 872 00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,520 Speaker 1: on your podcast that will kill it, Are you really 873 00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,520 Speaker 1: slapping all their music? Probably not, you know, or I 874 00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,279 Speaker 1: grew up, you know what's crazy. I got to the 875 00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,239 Speaker 1: point where when I was a kid, I was like 876 00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:12,880 Speaker 1: a hip hop snob for a little bit where if 877 00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,799 Speaker 1: it wasn't like super over lyrical, I would like look 878 00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,239 Speaker 1: down on it, like it's like commercial bullshit, right right, 879 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,080 Speaker 1: we all went through that phase. But now I'm like, 880 00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,279 Speaker 1: I just want to enjoy the music, man, right. And 881 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,439 Speaker 1: then there's there's people that are able to blend all 882 00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:28,440 Speaker 1: that kind of together and do it all together, like 883 00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,640 Speaker 1: Kendrick or like Kendrick J. Cole push your team again, 884 00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:36,920 Speaker 1: like yeah, and even like at the end of the day. Really, lyricism, 885 00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:40,000 Speaker 1: like songwriting and lyricism are two different things. People think 886 00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,319 Speaker 1: that just because you can put bars together, it means 887 00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:45,440 Speaker 1: you know how to craft a record. There's a whole 888 00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,759 Speaker 1: bunch of different nuances, you know, yeah, for sure. And 889 00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,160 Speaker 1: then there's a guy's like Black thought who or just 890 00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:55,080 Speaker 1: Black Thoughts, Apex Predator MCS that can just do everything. 891 00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:58,160 Speaker 1: He's a Jedi, Yeah, yeah who just you know, run 892 00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,720 Speaker 1: the entire game into the game. But can you do anything? 893 00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:04,040 Speaker 1: To revert back to a previous question you asked, what 894 00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:09,799 Speaker 1: would I do differently? I definitely would not let the 895 00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:13,960 Speaker 1: opinions of other people's dictate my emotions. It's something that 896 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,480 Speaker 1: I've known because I've been on the internet for years, 897 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,319 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like I've been had an 898 00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:20,840 Speaker 1: active presence. I mean, the battle Rap scene kind of 899 00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:25,120 Speaker 1: blew up because of message boards and yeah, you know 900 00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,680 Speaker 1: what I mean, And I was from on the ground 901 00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:31,000 Speaker 1: floor of that. Since two thousand and five, in some capacity, 902 00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,400 Speaker 1: I've been in the public eye. 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Should you 950 00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:04,080 Speaker 1: ever find out who this ghost reddit guy is? Ghost 951 00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:06,279 Speaker 1: Reddit guys? The guy was the Reddit guy you were 952 00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:10,360 Speaker 1: supposed to be talking to it? Oh, guilty guilty, not 953 00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:13,320 Speaker 1: ghosts ghost guilty. I do not know guilty is to 954 00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:16,480 Speaker 1: this day Jesus now yet. And that was in a 955 00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:20,000 Speaker 1: Discord server. Oh see, all the ship is bro fuddy. 956 00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,799 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I always thought Discord. I was on Discord once, 957 00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:25,680 Speaker 1: and it was because I'm a part of the I 958 00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,280 Speaker 1: talked about this. I was on there's like this flip 959 00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,319 Speaker 1: group where they like tell you what to buy and 960 00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,160 Speaker 1: what you could flip it for, right right right, And 961 00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,000 Speaker 1: it was I had to download Discord and and then 962 00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:36,160 Speaker 1: I guess it's for gaming and ship. I guess all 963 00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:38,560 Speaker 1: different kinds of ship. Yeah, yeah, Discord is good. It's 964 00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,960 Speaker 1: a build a community, very valuable tool, like I'm is 965 00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:45,120 Speaker 1: there a bootleg keV reddit community? Or I don't want 966 00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:51,680 Speaker 1: that ship? I feel you don't make one. We're good, Yeah, 967 00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:55,720 Speaker 1: we're good, buddy. I learned. I learned a lot, though, 968 00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:57,840 Speaker 1: and I'm grateful for it. And you know, have you 969 00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:01,240 Speaker 1: talked to Adam since? I? Have I spoken to Adams 970 00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:06,040 Speaker 1: since the morning after that all went down, because I 971 00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,360 Speaker 1: was kind of like I wasn't even really one hundred 972 00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,640 Speaker 1: percent sure if I were, even though I was like 973 00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:13,239 Speaker 1: it was still yeah, but it was like you just 974 00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,239 Speaker 1: went off what you saw on that stream and could 975 00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:17,359 Speaker 1: be like open ended. It was. It was done out, 976 00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:19,920 Speaker 1: it was done out of passion, like let me see 977 00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,720 Speaker 1: if there's any reasoning with this guy. In the morning, 978 00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,600 Speaker 1: sometimes people feel a little bit different. You know, I 979 00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:29,359 Speaker 1: sent him a text. He was just kind of like, hey, 980 00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,879 Speaker 1: you know, that's it. But he what he did say 981 00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:37,319 Speaker 1: was I'm not gonna be bad mouthing you or slandering you, 982 00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:41,560 Speaker 1: and I was like, okay, cool, neither will. I then 983 00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:46,280 Speaker 1: proceeded to call me a snake multiple times on several 984 00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:50,440 Speaker 1: different podcasts and talked down on me. So it's kind 985 00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:52,520 Speaker 1: of like, you know, I don't have any hate in 986 00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:55,400 Speaker 1: my heart towards him. But I'm a little confused by that. 987 00:50:55,480 --> 00:51:00,360 Speaker 1: What about Josh. Josh and I have texted on about 988 00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:04,279 Speaker 1: business a couple of times, but check. That's kind of 989 00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:07,040 Speaker 1: like but that's essentially like the end of you know, 990 00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,320 Speaker 1: and I'm cool Josh. I have no problem with ultimately, 991 00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:12,960 Speaker 1: and so at the end of the days, you know, 992 00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:16,120 Speaker 1: we we all straight. I still talk to a d 993 00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:20,759 Speaker 1: I still talk to tral house phone everybody. They'll be 994 00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:24,160 Speaker 1: appearing on my pod occasionally. I might make some appearances 995 00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,040 Speaker 1: over there. Have you. I know you've just talked to 996 00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:29,879 Speaker 1: Smack this morning. I know you've been doing your I 997 00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:34,960 Speaker 1: saw who's the white guy you're on camera with on 998 00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:37,759 Speaker 1: you It's like it's a YouTube channel. It's that YouTube channel, 999 00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:41,239 Speaker 1: oh ruin your Day. Yeah, okay, so like have you 1000 00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:45,040 Speaker 1: already started your your actual I have my own individual 1001 00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:48,040 Speaker 1: channel that's lush World. Yeah no, so lush World is 1002 00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,440 Speaker 1: actually be cause here's the thing. That channel, that ruin 1003 00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:54,520 Speaker 1: your Day channel is something that I've been active in 1004 00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:58,880 Speaker 1: actively a part of building since like twenty fifteen. So 1005 00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,279 Speaker 1: you already were a part of that, yeah, yeah, you 1006 00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:03,919 Speaker 1: know and helped build a lot of the subs up. 1007 00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:06,719 Speaker 1: And then when I, you know, had a discussion with him, 1008 00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,320 Speaker 1: is this is going to be my home on YouTube 1009 00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:12,120 Speaker 1: for curating content since there's already an audience built in. 1010 00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:16,160 Speaker 1: Business wise, him and I have an understanding and so 1011 00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:20,440 Speaker 1: I consider that channel as much mine as anybody else's. Okay, 1012 00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:22,279 Speaker 1: So then that's where the Lush world stuff's going. Yeah, 1013 00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:25,320 Speaker 1: Lush Rold's over there. There's a GTX channel for battles, 1014 00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:28,520 Speaker 1: there's I have my own channel for music. So yeah, 1015 00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,680 Speaker 1: are you still gonna make music? I'm I'm always gonna 1016 00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:34,080 Speaker 1: make music. That's a that's just a part of who 1017 00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:35,719 Speaker 1: I am, you know what I mean. Like I got 1018 00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:39,040 Speaker 1: my distribution deal with my label with John Arbano and 1019 00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:43,200 Speaker 1: Marissa Orbano called snow Cone Records, which is we under 1020 00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:46,560 Speaker 1: Sony Orchard, so like you know, but it's not paying 1021 00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:50,040 Speaker 1: the bills. But occasionally I'll get a placement and it'll 1022 00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:52,640 Speaker 1: pop up, like I just got a placement in the show. 1023 00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:54,600 Speaker 1: Like you would do it for free? I would always 1024 00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:56,800 Speaker 1: I would do it for free. Probably recently got a 1025 00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,920 Speaker 1: placement in a film called Sick, which is on the 1026 00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,399 Speaker 1: Peacock Network, So you know, get a little bag here 1027 00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:05,760 Speaker 1: and there, and when you got your teeth done? Yeah, 1028 00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:07,600 Speaker 1: did you do it here? Did you go to different car? 1029 00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:10,080 Speaker 1: I did hear? Oh you did? Yeah? Yeah yeah. And 1030 00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:13,359 Speaker 1: these are actually temporaries that are gonna be people who 1031 00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:16,200 Speaker 1: don't know because are you are you doing the implants? Yeah? 1032 00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:18,480 Speaker 1: These these are so right? Now is a bridge. I 1033 00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:20,760 Speaker 1: have a bridge on top and a bridge on the bottom. 1034 00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:22,759 Speaker 1: It's not like dentures. I can't take you. You're gonna 1035 00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:26,960 Speaker 1: gets right, yeah. Yeah, And so you're not even getting veneers. No, no, no, no, 1036 00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:29,160 Speaker 1: they didn't. I have no real boys. Yeah yeah, I 1037 00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:31,040 Speaker 1: have no teeth left on the top or the bottom 1038 00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:34,600 Speaker 1: in between my caneines. They cemented a bridge and so 1039 00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:37,160 Speaker 1: temporary that's there. And I'll just tell you're gonna be 1040 00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:39,319 Speaker 1: out for a while. I'll tell you this though, Bootleg Keev, 1041 00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:42,160 Speaker 1: the pussy quotient is through the roof. Good for you 1042 00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:45,080 Speaker 1: knocking them down there. I'm glad to hear it. I'm 1043 00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:47,480 Speaker 1: knocking them down. Where are you finding them? Redit they 1044 00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:52,000 Speaker 1: finding me? They finding me? It's crazy, like I don't know. 1045 00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,440 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, Jesus Christ, we gotta get this valcrow. 1046 00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:59,279 Speaker 1: You gotta get it cemented like my damn teeth. For sure. 1047 00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:02,160 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I always what are are no 1048 00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:06,279 Speaker 1: jumper groupies or battle wrap groupies? Are they? Like? What 1049 00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,640 Speaker 1: kind of because I would say the ugliest groupies in 1050 00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:11,799 Speaker 1: the world are Juggalos. Yeah. Yeah, like ICP's groupies. God 1051 00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:14,759 Speaker 1: bless them. Just talk about fuck it speaking of meth 1052 00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,200 Speaker 1: Jesus Christ. Yeah, I'm not trying to have an orgy 1053 00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:20,040 Speaker 1: at the gathering. Yeah, no disrespect to the my Juggalos 1054 00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:23,880 Speaker 1: you feel, Yeah, shout out, I love y'all. Have you 1055 00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:25,600 Speaker 1: been to the gathering? I have not. I would love 1056 00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:28,160 Speaker 1: to go to the gathering. I heard there's a drug tent. Yeah, 1057 00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:30,759 Speaker 1: I know there's a drug bridge, I believe it. And 1058 00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:33,359 Speaker 1: then there's like a TP where there's just a bitch 1059 00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:35,919 Speaker 1: in there, the gang, the orgy, the orgy tent. What's 1060 00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:43,560 Speaker 1: that like? Welfare bumblebee tuna, child molestation, Yeah, like a 1061 00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,040 Speaker 1: kind of a bit of all that. Yeah, twenty seven 1062 00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:47,719 Speaker 1: year old chicken there who got fucked by her uncle 1063 00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:51,840 Speaker 1: and her brother at once, and now she's getting tattooed 1064 00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:55,200 Speaker 1: on her neck. Right. But I would say there's there's 1065 00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:57,680 Speaker 1: fucking second grade teachers in this world. Right now with 1066 00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:00,360 Speaker 1: hatchet man statooed on their body. You know, that's actually 1067 00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:05,760 Speaker 1: considered a very right And there's like in certain states 1068 00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:08,480 Speaker 1: like Utah, for I'm gonna say it's Utah. Yeah, yeah, 1069 00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:12,560 Speaker 1: they're very well versed. So I love the Juggalos as well. 1070 00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:15,279 Speaker 1: There I don't love them, but you know, I'm fascinated. 1071 00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:21,280 Speaker 1: But there's a differences fascinated by serial killers. There's seventeen percenters, 1072 00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:26,719 Speaker 1: but they're in Utah. In Utah, there was some Juggalo 1073 00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:32,120 Speaker 1: wound up killing Sereno and now there's a fucking green 1074 00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:37,279 Speaker 1: light in the Utah penitentiary system for anybody with the 1075 00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:40,560 Speaker 1: hatchetman tat. So I've been told. So the South Sider 1076 00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:42,680 Speaker 1: has got beef with the Juggals in Utah. Yes, And 1077 00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:45,080 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's still a thing, but this was, Yeah, 1078 00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:50,719 Speaker 1: that's interesting. Yeah, and you can they're Juggalo Mormons or 1079 00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,640 Speaker 1: South Side Mormons. I don't know. But and just to 1080 00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:56,040 Speaker 1: make it clear, this is not something that I'm bringing 1081 00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:58,960 Speaker 1: to the Internet. This is something that's already known. If 1082 00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:01,239 Speaker 1: you you know, tap into from places you t have 1083 00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:02,600 Speaker 1: you have you ever done a battle in you I've 1084 00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:05,200 Speaker 1: been to Salt like, yeah, it's cool. It's fun out there, 1085 00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:07,520 Speaker 1: is it? It is? But as far as groupies, I'll 1086 00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:12,200 Speaker 1: tell you this, No Jumper groupies are levels beyond the 1087 00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:15,320 Speaker 1: battle rap groupies. Yeah, yeah, they are. Gotta be honest. 1088 00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:17,120 Speaker 1: Can you imagine the kind of chick that just is 1089 00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:20,640 Speaker 1: like every battle she's there, just there. There's like some 1090 00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:22,839 Speaker 1: cute ones. I'm not gonna lie like we you know, 1091 00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:26,239 Speaker 1: like there's some cute battle rap chicks, but it's definitely 1092 00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:29,160 Speaker 1: like the the bitches that are the bitches that are 1093 00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:32,120 Speaker 1: in in the No Jumper a lot of them were 1094 00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:35,400 Speaker 1: aspiring only fans models, you know what I mean? Like, 1095 00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:37,319 Speaker 1: did you ever get any porn chick pussy over there? 1096 00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:42,279 Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah yeah, just just being over there? Yeah, absolutely, yeah, 1097 00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:45,319 Speaker 1: anybody would talk about nothing. I can. You know what 1098 00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:46,680 Speaker 1: I don't want to do you ever take on the 1099 00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:48,800 Speaker 1: Asian chick with the ass? Look here's it. No, I 1100 00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:51,200 Speaker 1: did not. But here's the thing. If I wind up Kazumi, 1101 00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:55,000 Speaker 1: yeah yeah you never Zuomi. No, But like if I did, 1102 00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,839 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say because here's the thing that makes me 1103 00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:00,440 Speaker 1: look super lame. I'm not gonna not gonna speak on 1104 00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:03,080 Speaker 1: my dick. And then what other bitches that might be 1105 00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:07,000 Speaker 1: interested in throwing me some pushy they yoused. This ude 1106 00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:10,120 Speaker 1: got a big mouth. Accumulative body count too. The body 1107 00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:13,160 Speaker 1: count is one thing. But like he's he's gonna put 1108 00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:16,040 Speaker 1: me on blast, I will never put you on blast, 1109 00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:19,320 Speaker 1: baby girl. So you're single, I'm singing a little currently 1110 00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:22,240 Speaker 1: good for you? Man? Yeah? Yeah, Well listen, man, I 1111 00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:24,840 Speaker 1: was heartbroken last year. You feel me I got? Was 1112 00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:27,600 Speaker 1: that your fiance? That was which one? Because you said 1113 00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:30,280 Speaker 1: your fiance was that? It broke your heart? Well, I 1114 00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:33,560 Speaker 1: kind of it was my fault. Yeah yeah, please pause. 1115 00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:38,240 Speaker 1: So so you were supposed to get married, Yes, didn't 1116 00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:41,280 Speaker 1: work out. Didn't work out? Who knows what the future holds. Yeah, yeah, 1117 00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:43,360 Speaker 1: that's what's up. Man. Well look, I'm glad you're sober. 1118 00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:46,080 Speaker 1: Appreciate you stay sober. No, it's a tough journey. Man. 1119 00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:48,320 Speaker 1: Do you go to meetings every week? I do? I 1120 00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:51,440 Speaker 1: do several times a week. She get the coins and 1121 00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:53,560 Speaker 1: all that. Yep, got my three year coin about a 1122 00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:57,280 Speaker 1: month and a half. Was my sobriety birthday is February third. Wow. 1123 00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:01,040 Speaker 1: Well congrats man, stay sober, buddy, got to and keep uh, 1124 00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:03,680 Speaker 1: just one thing I'll tell you man is. I know 1125 00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:07,040 Speaker 1: it's very easy, and we already talked about this a 1126 00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:10,400 Speaker 1: bit earlier. Don't pay attention to the comments, and don't 1127 00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:13,720 Speaker 1: pay attention to what anybody else is doing, because I'm 1128 00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:16,000 Speaker 1: sure it's easy to look over and be like, oh shit, 1129 00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:19,000 Speaker 1: this is happening over here. This is just worry about 1130 00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:21,680 Speaker 1: building your own shit brick by brick. Don't compare Dix 1131 00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:25,640 Speaker 1: of the Gang Bang. For sure, you feel me. But 1132 00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:30,320 Speaker 1: with that being said, with that being said, keV, it's 1133 00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:31,920 Speaker 1: cool to actually chop it up with you. Get to 1134 00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:33,960 Speaker 1: know you. You You feel me, sir. You might have more 1135 00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:37,280 Speaker 1: in common than I initially even both old white dudes 1136 00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:39,520 Speaker 1: who like Ratten music. Yeah you feel me? So how 1137 00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:41,720 Speaker 1: old are you? I'm forty one, Okay, I'm thirty six. 1138 00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:45,120 Speaker 1: So do you know where? Yeah? Yeah, well you know, yeah, 1139 00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:47,720 Speaker 1: we definitely are both just old dusty hip hop. You 1140 00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:50,840 Speaker 1: feel me spinning dusty pieces of wax, you know the vibes. 1141 00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:53,560 Speaker 1: Come appreciate you, brother man, Yeah you as well, Sir Boo,