1 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 1: Hello, my beautiful people. Welcome to Cheeky's and Chill. I 2 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: am so excited that you're here, especially because today I 3 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: have someone that I absolutely admire. She is an inspiration 4 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 1: to me. I haven't ever met her, and I haven't 5 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: been following her for a very long time, but she 6 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:33,480 Speaker 1: captivated me. She is a best selling author, she's an entrepreneur. 7 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: She's the host of one of my favorite podcasts, A 8 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: really good Cry. Hopefully I can get on there, and 9 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: I want you guys to help me. Welcome Roddy Devlukiya. 10 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: Welcome to Roddy. Please, you guys give her a round 11 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: of applause, you guys. I well, first of all, I 12 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 1: want to say thank you, thank you so much for 13 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 1: being here. I will be honest, I just started following you. 14 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: And I started following you not so long ago because 15 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 1: of my husband. 16 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. 17 00:00:56,320 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: Because yes, because he I shot you right for a I. 18 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 2: Believe it's called what is it called libcentive? 19 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I'm tented. And he told me he's like, 20 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 1: I think this girl's energy and he's like, I started 21 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: following her. He's like, he showed me your page. I 22 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: was like, oh my gosh, Yes, it's like you should 23 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: have her on the pod. I was like, okay, I 24 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: was like, but wait, let me follow her. And I 25 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 1: started looking at your stuff and I completely fell in 26 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: love with your content, with your personality, with what you radiate. 27 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: And let me tell you, I'm gonna get emotional, guys, 28 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: because we talk about this on the pod a lot. 29 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: I feel like we're living in a society that is 30 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: being given so much junk, you know, on social media, 31 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 1: so it's so refreshing to see. 32 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 2: Your stuff that means so much. 33 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: Like honestly, it gets me emotional because I'm like, oh, 34 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: it's a it's a it's a breath of fresh air. 35 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 3: So well, you have the best energy since the moment 36 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 3: I walked in and I was like, you make everyone 37 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 3: feel so comfortable. She just said that you have this calming, 38 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 3: kind and genuine nature. So I feel like you just 39 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 3: see that in me because it's in you. But thank 40 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 3: you for that, and I really appreciate it. I think 41 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 3: it's really difficult sometimes to know how people are perceiving 42 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 3: what you're putting out there, because. 43 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,359 Speaker 2: There's it all hate is out there too, So yeah, 44 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 2: I appreciate that. 45 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: Thank you, No, thank you, I truly mean it. And 46 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: I don't say that lightly because there's a lot there's 47 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: not a lot of people that inspire me anymore, you know. 48 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: And I'm going through a shift. I feel like something 49 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: is happening in my life, in my career, in my 50 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: personal life. Oh my gosh, what is going on? Okay? Anyways, 51 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 1: I'm sorting drink a little bit of. 52 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. 53 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 3: No, but this is you know, my podcast is called 54 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 3: a really Good Cry. I love it, yes, because I 55 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 3: cry all the time. So I'm like, okay, I'm seeing 56 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 3: emotions flow. 57 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: Okay, awesome. So this is why I wanted you on 58 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 1: the pod. Because everything that you talk about on your 59 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: social media, and you know it's spirituality. I try to 60 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: I try my best to be as positive as I 61 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: possibly can on socials. I feel like if we have 62 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: this opportunity, I want to share good things, you know, 63 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: And so I feel like I have okay, positivity. I 64 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,959 Speaker 1: can always learn more spirituality. I feel like I got 65 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: it down, but I can always more. 66 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 2: But food food. 67 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: When I saw your cookbook and I saw you because 68 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: I love Cafe Gratitude, Yes, yes, I love Cafe Gratitude. Immediately. 69 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: My husband was the one that introduced me to Cafe Gratitude, 70 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: and I loved it, and I saw that you had 71 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 1: a collaboration with them, so I dug and I was like, oh, 72 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 1: it's her cookbook Joyful, which I love the name of Joyful. 73 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: And I'm like, what did I think of that? But 74 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: I started saying, you've been vegan right for ten years? 75 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 1: Can you tell me about that? Was it more to 76 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:33,239 Speaker 1: like for the animals? 77 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 2: Is it health? 78 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: What was it? 79 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 3: So? I was actually born into a vegetarian family, so 80 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 3: like my parents are vegetarian, my grandparents are vegetarians, so 81 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 3: I have like a lineage of vegetarians in my life. 82 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 3: And then when I was how. 83 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 2: Old was I? 84 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 3: This was about ten or maybe eleven years ago, my 85 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 3: sister read this book called Eating Animals by James Saffron, 86 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 3: and it just told me things that So I already 87 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 3: didn't eve meat, but I was still having dairy and 88 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 3: I read things that I just could not unread about 89 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 3: how one the animals were treated, and two also just 90 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 3: the links between health conditions and dairy and how the 91 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 3: dairy industry has just really declined and the quality I 92 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 3: think milk is actually. 93 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 2: Probably a very nutril. 94 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 3: It is a very nutritious substance that comes from an animal. 95 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:22,679 Speaker 3: The problem is depending on how you treat the animal. 96 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 3: Just like us, the quality of what we give out 97 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 3: to people, to other people around us, energetically, physically, emotionally 98 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 3: is a result of what we have fed ourselves. And 99 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 3: so in the same way, when you're feeding an animal 100 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 3: stuff that it's not supposed to be fed, the quality 101 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 3: of what comes out, it's like you are then receiving 102 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 3: puss hormones, blood, all this stuff in your dairy produce 103 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 3: that you don't even realize, and so what you think 104 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 3: it's doing for your body, it's actually not. So milk 105 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 3: is amazing, Well we're getting from the dairy industry not 106 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 3: so much. And so it was a mixture of reasons. 107 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 3: But I just fell in love with animals, and I just, 108 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 3: I really just believe that there is a soul in 109 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 3: every single thing, from a little ant to a human. 110 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 3: And I just think if we can, if I if 111 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 3: I can sustain my body without it, then I'm gonna 112 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 3: try to. 113 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 2: And then it's kind of been ten years and I 114 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 2: haven't missed it. 115 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: And you feel like, I'm assuming amazing, You look great, 116 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: your skin is phenomenal. Yours Wow. But I have a 117 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: little bit of makeup on. You don't. 118 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 2: I don't have makeup on. But it's but isn't it. 119 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: Like thank you? Yeah? And I truly believe it has 120 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 1: a lot to do. 121 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 2: With what we does. 122 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 3: And you know, dairy did make a big difference. But 123 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 3: dairy and sugar are two things that make the hugest 124 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 3: difference to my dairy, sugar and oil. Those three things, yeah, 125 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 3: are like if you have too much of any of them, 126 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 3: they just are skin leeches. 127 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: Dairy, sugar, and oil. Yeah, okay, because see that's why 128 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: I wanted to talk to you about, like food, so 129 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: many things, but like the food because I've I've have 130 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: felt it in my soul for a long time to 131 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: be vegetarian. I have and I tried it, and I 132 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: did pescatarian for a while and then my mercury was 133 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: like high and they're like, oh, no, you need to 134 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 1: like so I didn't do that. Then I was like, okay, 135 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: the hardest thing has been to let go of cheese. 136 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 2: Cheese was the hardest thing for me. Cheese I okay. 137 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 3: So when I decided to do it, I was like, Okay, 138 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 3: I'm going to do it slowly because I wanted to 139 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 3: be sustainable. 140 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 2: I want to make sure I can do it. 141 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:24,239 Speaker 3: Cheese was the last thing I remember. The day before, 142 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 3: I was like, cheese is the last thing I'm giving up, 143 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 3: especially in the UK, because cheese there is amazing, like 144 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 3: extra cheesem so good. 145 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: But I agree it is. 146 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 3: A hard change, especially by the way, if someone's grown 147 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 3: up eating meat and then trying to cut out meat 148 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 3: and dairy. One was shocked to your system, and two 149 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 3: it's such a difficult cultural change. For me, it was 150 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 3: a little bit easier, like eventually now my whole family's vegan, 151 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 3: and so it's so easy when I go home, it's 152 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 3: vegan food. 153 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 2: When I go out with them, we don't have. 154 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 3: To pick what restaurant we're going to, Whereas culturally it 155 00:06:57,920 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 3: can be really difficult. I always say to people, I'm like, 156 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 3: try few plant based days first. You don't have to 157 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 3: go all in sight away like little bit little decide 158 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 3: like a Monday or Wednesday and a Friday, that's what 159 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 3: I'm gonna eat, just plant based. 160 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna have. 161 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 3: Any dairy, no no meat products. See how your body feels, 162 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 3: see how it reacts. Because I also think we have 163 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 3: this like lack of tuning into our body to see 164 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 3: how it actually feels. And I always say, like in Irada, 165 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 3: there's like three different types of foods that you can 166 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 3: eat or different things that you can different categories. There's 167 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 3: mode of goodness, mode of passion, and mode of ignorance. 168 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 3: That's how they kind of categorize. Everything from what you 169 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 3: hear to what you're eating can fit into those modes. 170 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 3: And so food, when you're eating, it should make you 171 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 3: feel like you have vitality in your body. It should 172 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 3: give you energy, it should make you feel vibrant when 173 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 3: you're eating. And it's causing digestive issues, it's causing skin issues, 174 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 3: it's making you feel sluggish, just making you feel worn out. 175 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 3: How is that giving your self vitality? 176 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: It's not, it's not. 177 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 3: And so a lot of it is just like listening 178 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 3: and tuning in, like what is making me feel good 179 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 3: when I eat it? And really told those things. 180 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: So do you recommend maybe keeping a food journal? Like, 181 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: because I tried that a long time ago, because I 182 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: was trying to figure out, Okay, what's causing me so 183 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: many digestive issues my rosatia, like what flares it up? 184 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: And I tried doing it takes a little bit of work, 185 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: but I think like when you really committed and you 186 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: want something, you'll take that extra step. But I really, 187 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: like I'm telling you, there's this shift coming and I 188 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: know that this is what I need to do for 189 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: the rest of like my life. I've had a lot 190 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: of fun I've had a lot of red meat. I've 191 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,319 Speaker 1: had a lot of cheese, Like I really I told 192 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: I told them, I was like, I really want to 193 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: try this, like I want to be vegetarian. And again, 194 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: culturally it's very difficult because as Mexicans, as Latinos, we 195 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: eat a lot of red meat, a lot of pork. 196 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: I don't eat pork. I left pork a long time ago. 197 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 1: I try my best not to eat it. But I 198 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: think slowly, I just have to, like, like you said, 199 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: take baby steps and maybe keep like a journal guys, 200 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: like if you guys want to do this or not. 201 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: But I'm saying, like to kind of see what is 202 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: it that I ate that made me not feel so good? 203 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 3: Maybe and digestively and then energetically of like how am 204 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,199 Speaker 3: I feeling in my energy? Because food should bring us 205 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 3: energy when we're eating it. 206 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely a food diary. 207 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 3: I remember when I was a dietician, I would always 208 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 3: recommend that. I'm like, Okay, the first thing we're gonna 209 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 3: do is a food and symptom diary. Eat the food, 210 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 3: See how you feel two to three hours later and 211 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 3: immediately yes. 212 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 2: But yeah, I will also say it is it's a shift, 213 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 2: and I. 214 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 3: Think it's possible. I think it's possible for everybody. But 215 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 3: take your time with it and give yourself grace with it. 216 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 2: And also come over to my house and I'm going 217 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 2: to feed you. 218 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: Oh thank you. I saw everything you cook and I'm like, 219 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, definitely picking so it looks so good. 220 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 1: Do you drink alcohol? 221 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 2: No, right, I don't. I actually have never drunk alcohol. 222 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: Really yeah. 223 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 3: It's it's honestly because this is what I believe in 224 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 3: like past lives. 225 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 2: This is just part of my culture. 226 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 3: And I'm like, you know what, I think what happened 227 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 3: was I must have gone hard in my last life 228 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 3: and in this life. I just don't crave. I don't 229 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 3: like desire anybody. I always said if I wanted to, 230 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 3: I would, and then I had like some people who 231 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 3: are alcoholics in my life, it's addiction is like kind 232 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 3: of in my family and little things that happened along 233 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 3: the way, like people that I was really close to 234 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 3: when I was younger. 235 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 2: I was like, I don't know, it's just not for me. 236 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 3: And then I got to this age and I was like, well, 237 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 3: I'm past my party age and now I want to 238 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 3: be in bed by like ten o'clock. 239 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:20,719 Speaker 2: I think there's no need now. 240 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's another thing. That's probably another reason why 241 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 1: your skin looks so amazing. That's another thing that I'm 242 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: kind of like, you know, what I do for work 243 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: and I'm on stage and the type of music that 244 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:34,439 Speaker 1: I sing, it's really a part of the culture is 245 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: the drinking. And I tried the pretending to drink, and 246 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: then I felt like I was being dishonest, Yes, dishonest, 247 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: and that didn't feel good either. So I don't know. 248 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: I just felt very like inspired because I saw that 249 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: you made mocktels as well with Juni, and I thought, 250 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,079 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, well, by the way, guys, Juni is 251 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: her company. She's an entrepreneur as well. So I'm not trying. 252 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: I'm just saying because I drink them all the time 253 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: and I love them because they're like sugar free, right, 254 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: they have what is it. They have Lion's mane, which 255 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: is amazing. 256 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 2: Sugar free, and they have adaptations and neotropics in it. 257 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 3: So adaptations in New tropics are basically plant extracts that 258 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 3: help you with mood, focus, energy, all the things that 259 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 3: you probably want to feel during the day. 260 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 2: So, and it's got green. 261 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 3: Tea in it, so instead of it being caffeine from 262 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 3: like a coffee sauce, you get caffeine from green tea, 263 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 3: which also has antioxidants. So I really wanted to just 264 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 3: create a drink that, you know, it feels like you're indulging, 265 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 3: but also at the same time you're feuding your body 266 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 3: with things that it probably needs and your mind with 267 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 3: things that it needs. 268 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: Right when I come to the podcast on my way here, 269 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: I'll take one because it's like I need to use 270 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: my brain, and I don't know, I feel like I 271 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: feel better and and I'm like, okay, it has zero sugar, 272 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:41,839 Speaker 1: and I try my best not to like for a 273 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:43,439 Speaker 1: long time, for like a year, almost two years, I 274 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: wasn't drinking any soda. Just recently I started hearing a 275 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: lot and I was like, oh, so this has saved 276 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: my life. 277 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 3: I'm going to send you the decaf on the new 278 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 3: flavors you're gonna love. 279 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, thank you, thank you. Yes, because I 280 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: was like, Okay, she makes Mark Tel so I'm assuming 281 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 1: she doesn't drink alcohol, which is awesome. Okay, So we 282 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 1: talked a little bit about foo in your book. Are 283 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 1: those recipes that you that you have from like family? 284 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:08,079 Speaker 1: Did you? Is it because you you're self taught? 285 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 3: Yes, my self taught and mom taught my My mom. 286 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 2: And my grandma are phenomenal cooks. 287 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 3: And I grew up just on and I'm sure you 288 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 3: can relate to this with your culture. So many like 289 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 3: so much flavor infused into the food. Spices was like 290 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 3: just packed with flavor, and so I think my palette 291 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 3: really was quite refined from a young age. And my 292 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 3: mom would would try different cuisines wherever we traveled to 293 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 3: she would bring it back to our house through the 294 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 3: food that we were eating, and so every week she'd 295 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 3: be trying new recipes experimenting. At the same time, she 296 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 3: was also a fitness instructor, so she was quite mindful 297 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 3: about like the type of food we were eating, how 298 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 3: healthy it was. And so I definitely grew up around 299 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 3: I was lucky to grow up around people who really 300 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 3: knew how to throw it. 301 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,439 Speaker 2: Down and they get to Ye, that makes the difference 302 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 2: for sure. 303 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: And so the. 304 00:12:56,840 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 3: Recipes are a combination of gosh everything from my parents 305 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:04,839 Speaker 3: my sister threw some in, but also experimenting on how 306 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 3: can I bring these Eastern spices which are so healing 307 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:11,319 Speaker 3: and so good for you in terms of like medicinally 308 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 3: and for your body, but bring it into Western culture 309 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 3: where it's not. 310 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 2: Just Indian food you're eating. 311 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 3: How can we incorporate these spices into day to day foods, 312 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 3: Like I have a tindurijackfruit taco in there, so it's like, Okay, 313 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 3: you're used to eating tacos, but how can I throw 314 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 3: a little bit more like something that you haven't had 315 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,239 Speaker 3: before in with it. So it's a fusion of cuisines, 316 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 3: a fusion of flavors, a mix of comfort food, healthy salads. 317 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:36,599 Speaker 1: Just like everything atle Bit, it's good for you. So 318 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 1: I'm definitely okay, that's I think that's gonna be my 319 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: number one thing for the new year to kind of 320 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: like get the book and maybe I'll start there little 321 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:45,079 Speaker 1: by little guys, little by litle. 322 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll stop by you coming over. You could taste 323 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:48,599 Speaker 3: the food before you eat, before you buy them. You 324 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 3: can be like, Okay, I'm gonna taste it. If I 325 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 3: like it, I'll make it. 326 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: In spirituality, talk to me about has that been a 327 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: part of your life forever? Because I in my culture, 328 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 1: I grew up like Christian, like the whole thing. And 329 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,079 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily always say this, like I don't necessarily 330 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: consider myself a religious person. I respect our religions. I'll 331 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 1: go to any type of church, but I'm more spiritual 332 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: and I'm more of like the meditation. And still I 333 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: feel like I want to tap more into that. So 334 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. I was just I wanted to kind 335 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: of know more about your spirituality. And it feels like 336 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: it comes from your family, like way you probably were 337 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: born into it. 338 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 3: I feel I was born into a religion. So I 339 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 3: was born into Hinduism, okay. And one thing I found was, 340 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 3: and I'm sure maybe you can relate from what you 341 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 3: said that when you're born into something, you end up 342 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 3: doing things ritualistically, like very methodically, Like my parents are 343 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 3: lying a candle, I'm gonna lie a candle right, My 344 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 3: parents are saying these mantras. 345 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 2: I'm gonna say this mantra. 346 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 3: And I got to like my teenagers, and I was like, 347 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 3: why am I doing any of this? Like I actually 348 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 3: don't know whether I have a deep connection to this. Yes, 349 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 3: I believe in God, but like what a my practice 350 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 3: is that I'm doing that truly connects me to God? 351 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 3: And I wasn't sure whether what I was doing was 352 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 3: actually just because my parents did it, my grandparents did it, 353 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 3: and I'm just going through life as you sometimes do mechanically. 354 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 3: But like I remember reading this thing where spiritual is 355 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 3: when your spirit and your heart is in the ritual. 356 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 3: Otherwise it's just ritualistic. Otherwise it's just mechanical. But the 357 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 3: whole point of being of spirituality is is my heart 358 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 3: in this ritual? It's my heart in this practice. And 359 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 3: so I really started seeking so deeply because I was like, 360 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 3: I don't know whether I feel like I'm connected to God. 361 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 3: I know I believe in God, but like what is that? 362 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 3: What is that connection? What am I supposed to be 363 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 3: feeling because right now I'm not feeling. 364 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 2: And so. 365 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 3: My mum actually again was born into Hinduism, but she 366 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 3: started like feeling the same way, and so she wanted 367 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 3: to start volunteering at temple's name. 368 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 2: We would go there, We would. 369 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 3: Go to our religious place for festivals and like just 370 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 3: show up, you know when we had to not because 371 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 3: I wanted to be there, be like, okay, it's Devali's 372 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 3: one of our celebrats that okay, Dvali is one of 373 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 3: our festivals. It's like our Christmas. I'm going to show 374 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 3: up to the temple for this. But my mum really 375 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 3: started seeking and so she started volunteering at the temple 376 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 3: that was nearby to us, and she mentioned to somebody 377 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 3: that I was looking for a spiritual group that I 378 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 3: really wanted to be part of something. And so I 379 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 3: got involved with the youth group of that community, okay. 380 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 3: And it was there where I really understood like why 381 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 3: I was doing what I was doing and what I 382 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 3: connected to about it. And I have to agree with 383 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 3: you in the sense that I appreciate Hinduism for everything 384 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 3: that it is, but I'm not the biggest fan of 385 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 3: religious institutions, and I think that it really like one 386 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 3: thing I found my spiritual teacher rather than Thatswami. 387 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 2: He I always you know, when you're in a part 388 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 2: of a. 389 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 3: Religious institution, you think my religion is the best religion. 390 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 3: That's how a lot of people are brought up. My 391 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 3: religion is superior to other. 392 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: Religions, the correct one. It's the rect Like. 393 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 3: Spirituality is about equality and loving everybody. So how in 394 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 3: the world can one religion be superior Because you're saying 395 00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 3: that your path to connect to God is better than 396 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 3: another person path to connect to God. But we're also different, 397 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 3: so how can we not connect to God differently? And 398 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 3: so I started really seeing that as I was growing up, 399 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 3: and I was like, how does that make sense? 400 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 2: My spiritual teacher went. 401 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 3: Through so many different religious practices, and all he talks 402 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 3: about is how each. 403 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 2: One has taught him so much. All he talks about 404 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 2: is respect for every single religion. All he talks. 405 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 3: About is how we are all. Like the tradition that 406 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 3: I now follow in spirituality is called bucky. It means love, 407 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 3: And He's just like, every single religion is just teaching 408 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 3: us how to love God. So how can there be 409 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 3: a negative to any of them? 410 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: Yeah? 411 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 3: And so when I heard that and the way that 412 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 3: I've seen him live in practice, I'm like, that's really 413 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 3: what the goal is. To feel equality in everybody, to 414 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 3: really love and be kind and compassionate to people. That's 415 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 3: what spirituality is about. That's what religion is supposed to 416 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 3: be about. All the things we now see in religion, 417 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 3: unfortunately are man made, like women not being able to 418 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 3: do this and this being It's like, okay, but who 419 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 3: really came up with that? Is that in scripture? Or 420 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 3: are you just making it into religion? Yeah, making your 421 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 3: own religion. I agree, And so yeah, I think I 422 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 3: really evolved into I take parts of Hinduism that I 423 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 3: absolutely love, and really I just go back to the text, 424 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 3: like I just, I truly believe in. Meditation is a 425 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 3: part of my life every single day, has been for 426 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 3: the past ten years and has transformed so much of 427 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:21,919 Speaker 3: my life and my connection to God. It is the 428 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 3: time that I feel like I am able to take 429 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 3: a moment to not just connect with me, but connect 430 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 3: with something other than me. Yes, And like I spend 431 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 3: my whole day being focused around me in my selfish mindset, 432 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:37,120 Speaker 3: constantly about me, me, me, and meditation is like how 433 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 3: can I connect to something other than myself? And so 434 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:43,120 Speaker 3: that practice has really if you'll be please, I want to. 435 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: I want to know, like you're speaking and I'm just like, yes, 436 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 1: like you get it, which is why, like I didn't 437 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,159 Speaker 1: know how to put it into words sometimes. I mean, 438 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: we talk about it here all the time, and meditation 439 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 1: is a huge part of my life as well, because 440 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: it also. 441 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 2: Kind of meditation. 442 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 1: Do you do? I just I used to. I was 443 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: doing guided meditation for a while because that's how I 444 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 1: got into it. I'm like, okay, let me you know, 445 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: it's very hard to stay focused. And then I stopped 446 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 1: doing the guided meditation. I just put meditation music on 447 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: and that was I just would sit. I would just 448 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: sit and just breathe. I would do the block yes, 449 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,199 Speaker 1: the block breathing. Yes, yes, the block breathing, And that 450 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:19,959 Speaker 1: really helped me just kind of get my mind. Now 451 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:21,439 Speaker 1: I'm getting to the point where I don't have to 452 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:25,919 Speaker 1: I enjoy being in complete silence. It took, yes, it 453 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: took a little bit to get there. Two years. 454 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 2: Oh of course it does. 455 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 1: So I was just like, you know, my friends, I'm like, meditate, 456 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 1: I can't like just try two minutes. Just do two minutes, like, 457 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 1: little by little, you'll build it up. 458 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 3: It's a muscle and the process that you've gone through, 459 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 3: which is great because you're saying, yeah, it took me 460 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 3: two years to get to the point of even sitting 461 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 3: with my thoughts, and then really does imagine how much 462 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 3: we absorb every single day, the amount of busyness that 463 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:51,880 Speaker 3: we absorb through our what we see, what we hear, 464 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 3: what we're experiencing. So, of course, when you're getting sitting 465 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 3: down to I remember my teacher would always say, I 466 00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 3: would be like, well, I'm getting so distracted and I 467 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 3: can't train. 468 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 2: He's like, but what are you doing the other twenty 469 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 2: one hours? 470 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 1: Oh? Sorry? 471 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 2: What are you doing the other twenty three hours of 472 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 2: your day? Twenty one hours? 473 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 3: What are you doing the other twenty three hours of 474 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 3: your day? Is it supporting your practice? Is are you 475 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 3: doing things that actually allow you to sit into that space? 476 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 3: Because that one hour is one hour. What you're telling 477 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 3: yourself is for that one hour, I'm going to be 478 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 3: so focused, I'm gonna like have nothing in my mind. 479 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 3: But what are the things are you doing throughout the 480 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,679 Speaker 3: day that's supporting you to be able to do that? 481 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 3: And I was like, that is so true, Like am 482 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 3: I watching things that are actually causing me anxiety? Am 483 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 3: I listening to things that are actually causing me anxiety. 484 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:37,120 Speaker 3: Am I speaking to people that are speaking negativity into 485 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 3: my life? Like? What am I doing to support that 486 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,679 Speaker 3: one hour of meditation practice? And there are so many 487 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 3: different types of meditation. I have to invite you next 488 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 3: time we do this singing meditation. We just had one 489 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 3: recently and it is beautiful. It's music meditation with mantras 490 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,239 Speaker 3: and people start by sitting quietly and by the end 491 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:58,880 Speaker 3: of it, everyone's up dancing and like having the best time. 492 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:04,360 Speaker 1: But oh my gosh, the medicative square that is amazing. 493 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 2: But there are so many different types of meditator. 494 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: Okay, see, I'm barely I feel like getting into it. 495 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: That's why I was like, you've already done three different 496 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: types to see without even like okay, this has I'm like, okay, 497 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 1: I have to let it go, like. 498 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 3: You've moved through different versions when you were at different 499 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 3: places in your life. And that's I think sometimes get meditation. 500 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,160 Speaker 3: Sometimes people get meditation really wrong. 501 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 2: They're like, okay, I have to be cross legged and 502 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 2: I have to. 503 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:27,679 Speaker 3: Be sat here. And I noticed that even about prayer. 504 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 3: People think in prayer you have to be on your 505 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 3: knees or you have to be sat down, And I'm 506 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 3: like you can be in prayer or meditation at every moment. 507 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm driving in a praying exactly now, my eyes 508 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:38,880 Speaker 1: closed obviously, guys. 509 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 2: But like I'm having a conversation. 510 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,439 Speaker 3: Yep, absolutely thing to be in connection. And so I 511 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,159 Speaker 3: actually think like prayer and meditation is not a I 512 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 3: have one. Look, I have a space that I sit 513 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 3: in when I meditate. I do think that there is 514 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 3: value in creating spaces for things. They hold energy, and 515 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:56,919 Speaker 3: so yes, I have I have a place where I 516 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 3: know that when I go into this space and I 517 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 3: smell this smell and I sit on this thing, that 518 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,360 Speaker 3: is a time to get into meditation. But there are 519 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 3: there is also opportunity to be in meditation when you're driving, 520 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 3: to be in meditation when you're sitting and you're feeling 521 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,439 Speaker 3: a little bit sad like, instead of sitting in it, 522 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 3: you could be connecting. And so I think people have 523 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 3: a different have a perception of meditation because of how 524 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 3: we see. 525 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: On movies and. 526 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 2: The yoga scene that is there in LA. 527 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 3: It's like it's not all armond like just sitting in 528 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 3: cross legged possessions. 529 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. Sometimes I'll even do it lying down, 530 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: like I'm just like Okay, I'm just gonna lie down, or. 531 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 2: I love a good sleep meditation. 532 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, sometimes I fall asleep. Guy, Exactly, I'm so relaxed, 533 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 1: and it's just exactly, I'm so relaxed. Are there times still, 534 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 1: now that you've been meditating for ten years? Are there 535 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 1: times where you you it's difficult for you to get 536 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 1: into it, or time where you're like, oh, I don't feel. 537 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 2: Like it months ten months of it, Okay, there, I say. 538 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:52,239 Speaker 3: I will show up to the practice, and there are 539 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 3: times where I'm physically there but not mentally or emotionally. 540 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 3: There are times where I fall off the practice and 541 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,400 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh God, I feel horrible, but I can't 542 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 3: get back to it, and then I feel guilty for 543 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,400 Speaker 3: not going into it, for not being in my practice, 544 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,880 Speaker 3: and then that makes me stay away from it further 545 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 3: because I'm like, I don't even want to show up 546 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 3: because I've been away for so long. 547 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 2: I feel like you think. 548 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 3: That once you're meditating, life just goes like this, But actually, 549 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 3: what meditation does, and I love this analogy. It says 550 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 3: that our heart is like a mirror that's dusty, and 551 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 3: what meditation does is it starts to like clean that mirror. 552 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 3: Gently it starts to help you see yourself. But that's 553 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 3: just the beginning, because when you start seeing yourself, that's 554 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 3: when all the crap comes up. You're like, you start 555 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 3: seeing all the things that you want to change about yourself, 556 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 3: you start seeing all the things that you need to 557 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 3: be working on. 558 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 2: You start seeing different parts of your life or what 559 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 2: it really is. And so meditation really just brings to 560 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,679 Speaker 2: life and light what you need to be working on. 561 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 2: And so there are so many times where I feel 562 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 2: like this practice is an ebb and a flow and 563 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 2: slowly going up. But really it's this this this. 564 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:01,199 Speaker 1: There are times yeah that I'm like, it takes a 565 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 1: bit of a struggle, you know, am I, because I'm 566 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,919 Speaker 1: physically like fatigued exactly or mentally I don't know, And 567 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:08,360 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my gosh, this is so hard. Today 568 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, thank you God so much for this day. 569 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: I love you exactly today. 570 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 3: You know that's me too, Okay, I've started this practice 571 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 3: that now every morning I wake up, my mom does 572 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 3: this in her prayer. 573 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 2: And I realized that I wanted to. 574 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 3: Stop practicing it, but just in case I don't make 575 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 3: it to my meditation let me do it. From the 576 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:25,919 Speaker 3: moment I wake up, and it's like thank you for 577 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 3: this breath, Like thank you so much that I've woken 578 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,400 Speaker 3: up and that I'm even able to see, like thank 579 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,679 Speaker 3: you for like let me have this day. Thank you 580 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 3: for letting me have this day. And from that point on, 581 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 3: it's like everything is a bonus and like, yes, crap 582 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 3: comes and you feel horrible and you go through days 583 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 3: where people are mean to you, and you go through 584 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:49,159 Speaker 3: really emotional traumatic times, but just waking up in the 585 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 3: morning being like thank you God for this, like I 586 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 3: needed to wake up today and I'm so happy that 587 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 3: you let me. 588 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: I'm so happy to say guys. Okay, going back to 589 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:04,679 Speaker 1: a little bit, backtracking to the food. Okay, I have 590 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 1: this thing and I don't know if this is just 591 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 1: and I think you probably said it. I want to 592 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,199 Speaker 1: make sure I understand correctly. But I've thought about like 593 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: the animals that we eat, like what if they had, 594 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,360 Speaker 1: for instance, like a chicken, you know, they're very nervous 595 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 1: and stuff, and what if they had a really bad 596 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: life and like they like I don't know, and I'm 597 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 1: eating that and I feel like what if those emotions 598 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 1: is that how crazy to think. 599 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 3: Or no, it's absolutely true, okay, because that was actually 600 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 3: the energy of like that, the suffering that an animal 601 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 3: has felt. When you eat it, you are eating that suffering. 602 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,400 Speaker 3: And I don't even mean, let's say you don't even 603 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 3: believe that energetically, okay, when we are all in trauma, 604 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 3: even as humans, our body holds the trauma as physical pain. 605 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 3: It actually our arteries, our cellular composition changes. 606 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 2: When our body is in stress. 607 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 3: So even if you don't believe on an energetic level 608 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 3: that you are eating this animal suffering, on a physical level, 609 00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 3: you are eating an animal at its worst state because 610 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 3: it is an anxiety, it's being pumped with hormones. Like 611 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 3: the amount of trauma that this animal is feeling ends 612 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 3: up showing up physically, and so you are then eating 613 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 3: an animal not even at its prime state. You're not 614 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 3: even getting like good quality meat when you're eating it. 615 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 3: You're getting low quality because the animal has been in 616 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 3: distress for so long, it's been fed things that is 617 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 3: making it grow up faster than it's supposed to, get bigger, 618 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 3: faster than it's supposed to. So the quality isn't even that, which. 619 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 1: Also causes a lot of diseases in it, like so 620 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 1: many things in our. 621 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 3: Bodies, and the animals get diseases and we don't even realize. 622 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 3: And so energetically that and you know, it even says 623 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 3: that the food when you're cooking it, I listen to 624 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 3: devotional music when I cook or spiritual music when I cook, 625 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 3: because when I studied Divada, it's so it's such a 626 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 3: beautiful practice. And every time I think about like rocking 627 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 3: out to something or like putting out the music on, 628 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, I can't unremember this fact that the 629 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 3: energy that's even around the food that's wy I'm so 630 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 3: particularly even when I eat out, I'm like, the energy 631 00:26:58,440 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 3: that is put into the food of the way, it's 632 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,239 Speaker 3: why do we love our mum's food so much, or like, 633 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 3: let's say, anybody in your life that you know has 634 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 3: fed you, the amount of love that is poured into 635 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 3: that food. 636 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,679 Speaker 2: That's why when you make it again, it's never the same. 637 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 3: You try and remake your mum's recipe or your grandma's 638 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 3: recipe that loves you with their dear life, there is 639 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:17,239 Speaker 3: no way you can make it the same, even if 640 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 3: you get every single ingredient right. And the fact is 641 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 3: whatever energy is poured into the food, Like I try 642 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 3: not to cook when I'm feeling really angry, or like 643 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 3: try not to cook when I've got like certain things 644 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 3: in my mind. 645 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 2: One it never turns out right. 646 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 3: But two, energetically, I'm whoever I'm feeding this food too, 647 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 3: is receiving that through the food. And so even energetical 648 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 3: when we're cooking, let alone eating animals, suffering, just even 649 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 3: if you're cooking plants and vegetables. It's like, but when 650 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,120 Speaker 3: am I infusing into this during the cooking process, that's 651 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 3: how deep it can get. 652 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 1: Doud, That is so crazy, right because now that is 653 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 1: so powerful because. 654 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 3: I love like I can feed you positive energy and 655 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 3: I can feed you nourishment, so that and now it's 656 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 3: just beyond. 657 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 2: Just your body. That's so powerful. 658 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: Absolutely, And that's yeah, I mean because when I'm salty, 659 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 1: I'm having a salty day, am I comes out real salty, 660 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,120 Speaker 1: you know, So I'm just like, oh, you know, that's 661 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: that's so true. I'm gonna try that. I'm gonna try 662 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: cooking because I haven't been cooking a lot because I've 663 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 1: been so busy, but I want to start doing it more. 664 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 1: And Medeo has been asking me, so I want to 665 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: maybe like meditation music or. 666 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,199 Speaker 2: What kind of me just say I'll send you my 667 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 2: play list. Okay, okay, I feel like you're gonna okay, 668 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 669 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 1: Yes please, because I think that's important even what people like. 670 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 1: I obviously enjoy people cooking for me. I'd much rather 671 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 1: people cook for me. But even then, I feel like 672 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 1: it's it's important to take care of that aspect, like 673 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,719 Speaker 1: who is you know, like you said, like making your 674 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: food and like praying over your food, praying over what 675 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 1: you drink because it's it's like, hey, God, just bless 676 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 1: this food. There's a lot of power in that. 677 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 2: There is. 678 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know what I think there were so 679 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 3: many people who are skeptical about whenever you talk about 680 00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 3: energy or whenever we talk about things like this, and 681 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 3: I'm noticed is that we are so skeptical over things 682 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 3: that do no harm, but not skeptical over things that 683 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 3: do so much harm in the world. Like there are 684 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 3: so many things in the world, whether it's pharmaceutical companies, 685 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 3: whether it's you can name it, most of the things 686 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 3: in the world are harming us more than they're doing good. 687 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 3: But for some reason we're not skeptical about that. But 688 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 3: when it comes to things that has to have the 689 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 3: possibility that are free and have the possibility to enhance 690 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 3: our life in some way. But like, oh, where's the evidence, 691 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 3: I'm like, the evidence is in how you feel? Why 692 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 3: does everything need to be on paper? Yes, And also 693 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 3: a lot of those papers that have evidence are biased 694 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 3: in some way and aren't even great actual evidence. 695 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 2: And so I just try it. Yeah, the proof is 696 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 2: in the putting. The proof is in how you are feeling, 697 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 2: and you tuning into that. 698 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 1: And talking about trying it, like you know, because I'm 699 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 1: working out a lot, I'm doing weight so like my trainers, 700 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 1: thank you, thank you so much. I feel really really good. 701 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: But I have been eating more protein because that's what 702 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: he's like, eat more protein, eat more meat. But I have, 703 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 1: and as I like how I'm feeling, but sometimes it 704 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,719 Speaker 1: gets it. It's a lot for my digestive system, especially 705 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 1: the red meat, and I've been I didn't eat red 706 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 1: meat for years and now I'm like, like absolutely loving it. 707 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 1: But I want again, I want to like feel better 708 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 1: in my tummy because my tummy has not been good. 709 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: So are there Obviously we're gonna learn about this I'm 710 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 1: sure in your book as well, Like there is a 711 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 1: lot of people think that, oh, you're just gonna eat grains. 712 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: I know. All this is like what kind of protein 713 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: are you going to get in a vegan diet? 714 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, I've also been trying to eat 715 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 3: a lot more protein. So right now I'm on like 716 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 3: what one hundred and forty grams a day or something 717 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 3: because we've been running a lot. 718 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 2: Right, I've been running a lot. 719 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 3: But I also wait trained like three to four times 720 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 3: a week, okay, And so I really wanted to see 721 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 3: And I've got a friends who are vegan body boaters, 722 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 3: and I've seen that they it's possible to like get 723 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 3: your protein and build muscle while doing it. Obviously everybody 724 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 3: type is different, but there are so many different sources. 725 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, there's like tempe soyot beans tofu, lentils, beans, mushrooms. 726 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 1: I didn't know there was weird. I'm sorry should have 727 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 1: done this, but I didn't know that there was so 728 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 1: much protein in beans. And I love beans. Yeah, me too. 729 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 3: And by the way, like sometimes what people will argue 730 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 3: is that, you know, vegan sauces are not complete proteins, 731 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 3: but I'll tell you what is a complete protein, rice 732 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 3: and beans. Rice and beans together have all the amino 733 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 3: acids required to be a complete protein. So yeah, you 734 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 3: may not be able to have You may not have 735 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 3: one thing and it has your complete amino acid thing 736 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 3: like meat, my, but you combine two things and. 737 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 2: You've got it. 738 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 3: And so really it's a it's just a bit more 739 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 3: effort into like figuring out how much protein is in this, 740 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 3: how much protein is in this? And they also say 741 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 3: sometimes the protein in meat isn't as available or bioavailable 742 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 3: or absorbed into your body as coming from a plant source. 743 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 3: Because if you think about it, an animal gets their 744 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 3: protein source from plants. They create the protein in their 745 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 3: body from eating the plants that they eat, and so really, 746 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 3: when you're ending up going to the source, you get 747 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 3: a more available form of protein. 748 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 1: So it's just being patient and taking the time, right, little, 749 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 1: I'll send you a cheat sheet, okayteen from different grades. Yeah, 750 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: you have a lot of things to send me, Okay, 751 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 1: because yeah, I know I'm real lyast serious about this. 752 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 2: Yes, definitely, okay, awesome thing me? 753 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 1: Do it? Do you have siblings? 754 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 2: By I do? 755 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 3: I have one older amazing sister Oh yeah, an oldest sister. 756 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,239 Speaker 3: She's four years older than me. She has my like 757 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 3: two she's birth two of my favorite people in the 758 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 3: whole entire world, my niece and my nephew. 759 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 2: They are incredible. And yeah, she's she's wonderful. 760 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 1: She's in the UK. 761 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 2: Okay, so we have a long distance, yeah relationship, but. 762 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 1: Thank goodness for technology. You guys, could you know six time? Yeah? 763 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 1: Do you mind how if I ask how old you are? 764 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm thirty four, you're thirty four? 765 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, I'm thirty nine. I'll be forty next year. 766 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I'm yeah, cater to forty. 767 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 1: Yes, And that's the thing I think, because I'm approaching forty, 768 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, I want the next part of my 769 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 1: life to really like things that i've just you know, 770 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 1: put on the back burner for the sake of entertainment 771 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 1: or being in I don't know, like I'm I am 772 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 1: so ready to say, okay. I've been working towards this, 773 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 1: especially with my food. I've always had a unique relationship, 774 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 1: should I say, with food. It was diets for a 775 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 1: long time. It was you know, I did keto and 776 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 1: then I didn't like how I lost weight, but then 777 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, something's just not feeling right in 778 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 1: my body. And then I'm like, okay, portion control. I 779 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 1: learned that that's what's been helping me the most is 780 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: the portion control is I can have a little bit 781 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 1: of everything, but just a little. And now I'm like, 782 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 1: I'm ready to really dive into this thing that has 783 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 1: been calling me for a long time. As I did 784 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 1: the vegetarian, but I wasn't doing the vegan, So I 785 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 1: think I'm gonna probably start with vegetarian. I think you should, yeah, 786 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 1: and then slowly get into absolutely okay. And I will 787 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 1: say I completely agree with you with portion control because 788 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 1: a lot of the time, you know, since starting my 789 00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 1: spiritual journey, and also just when you were disciplined, people 790 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 1: think that you are being restrictive, but actually discipline is 791 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 1: so much more freedom than living a life where you 792 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 1: are controlled by other things, and so like when you're controlled. 793 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,479 Speaker 1: For me, I have had a similar relationship with food. 794 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,800 Speaker 1: I've always felt like I was controlled by food, controlled 795 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: with my emotion. My emotions were directly linked to the 796 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,720 Speaker 1: food I was eating. If I was happy, I'm eating, 797 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,360 Speaker 1: If I'm sad, I'm eating, if I'm angry, I'm eating, 798 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, oh, if I'm having a 799 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 1: hard day, okay, I need some sugar. I need like 800 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,319 Speaker 1: some carbohydrates, I need something that's fatty, whatever it is. 801 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 1: And the thing is, when you end up feeling controlled 802 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 1: by something, that is the worst feeling, and so actually 803 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 1: being disciplined creates so much more freedom because you have 804 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,760 Speaker 1: the choice to say no, the choice I don't. I 805 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 1: if I want to have a dessert, now, I'll have it. 806 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:46,880 Speaker 1: I've been like one of the things I was struggling 807 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,239 Speaker 1: with recently was sugar. Like I was so stressed out 808 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 1: and I'm just eating. I had that really hectic schedule, 809 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 1: and it became very normal for me to have something 810 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 1: sweet after every single meal. Like I was just I 811 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,080 Speaker 1: was just craving sweetness in my life, Like all I 812 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 1: I wanted was a quick fix. And I got to 813 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 1: a point where my skin started suffering, my body was 814 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,840 Speaker 1: feeling lethargic, I was waking up feeling horrible, and I 815 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,759 Speaker 1: was like, I calculated how much sugar I was having 816 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,880 Speaker 1: in my day, and I was like, this is ridiculous. 817 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 3: And I didn't realize because me and I was like 818 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 3: a little better a little bit here, a little bit here, 819 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,400 Speaker 3: a little bit here. Yeah, And I was like, you 820 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,360 Speaker 3: know what, I have to I have to nip this 821 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 3: in the butt because I'm not addicted to anything else 822 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,360 Speaker 3: and I think sugar is any different, but it's just not. 823 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 2: It's just as addictive. 824 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 3: So I decided every single time I would usually fail 825 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 3: on the first day because I just couldn't do it. 826 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,759 Speaker 3: This time, it's been like, what twenty five days, and 827 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:39,360 Speaker 3: I've been like without any processed sugar, and I cannot 828 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 3: tell you how freeing it feels. Where I can sit 829 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:45,320 Speaker 3: in front of people and I can have a gathering. 830 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,479 Speaker 3: Usually for me, it's groups I love in white people 831 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,759 Speaker 3: over I love hosting. And when I do that, I'm like, 832 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,399 Speaker 3: let's order this and let's make this and let's do this. 833 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 2: But I'm like, I can enjoy one. 834 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 3: I can feed best, I can feed people healthy options, 835 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 3: and two don't have to link my joy and spending 836 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,319 Speaker 3: time with them to having something to enjoying a meal 837 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:06,400 Speaker 3: with them in that way. 838 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 1: Yes, And so do you feel a lot of mental 839 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 1: clarity too, Oh my gosh. And that's so bad for 840 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:12,719 Speaker 1: a brainer, It's so bad. 841 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 3: But I had to find alternatives like I'm in decision. 842 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,799 Speaker 3: I thought I would fail on day one. After day one, 843 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 3: I was like, Wow, I did this, And then day 844 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:21,839 Speaker 3: two I was like, oh my gosh, I did day two. 845 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,320 Speaker 3: And the more you commit to it, the more encourages 846 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 3: you to keep going. And so now I'm like, if 847 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 3: I feel like something, I'll have it. But it's changed 848 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,359 Speaker 3: my whole palette. I just don't crave it anymore. When 849 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 3: people used to tell me that, I used to think 850 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,759 Speaker 3: that they were just secretly binging, because I was like, 851 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 3: there's no way that you don't want to eat this 852 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:37,879 Speaker 3: dessert right now? 853 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 2: What do you mean? 854 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 1: So it's like no processed sugar, but you can have like, oh, 855 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 1: you're having like nice. 856 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 3: And what I realized that really helped me was I 857 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 3: was started poaching fruit or like cooking fruit down, and 858 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 3: so I'd make like peaches and I'd stew them and 859 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:51,760 Speaker 3: then I have that with like a bit of yogurt, 860 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 3: and it really satisfied my sweet craving. But also I 861 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 3: was having fruit, which was great. And now I'm like, 862 00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:58,839 Speaker 3: if I want it, if I want a dessert, I'll 863 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 3: have it. But even then I'm eating and I'm like, oh, 864 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 3: this is so sweet, and I had this one order 865 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 3: that I would always do when I would go to 866 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 3: this like frozen yogurt place called Yogat it's amazing. But 867 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:11,799 Speaker 3: I would have like brownies, chocolate fudge sprinkles, like all 868 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,239 Speaker 3: the things now I have, Like I think, if I 869 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:15,440 Speaker 3: had to buy it, I would probably go into a 870 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 3: sugar coma because I could. 871 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 2: I had built up my tolerance to it so much. 872 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. But yeah, so you think what clicked 873 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 1: is probably feeling that feeling of I feel accomplished, Like 874 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 1: this is like. 875 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:26,759 Speaker 3: That one day, that one you make it to that 876 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:28,359 Speaker 3: It's like when you make it to the gym that 877 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 3: one day You're like, God, I feel amazing. And so 878 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 3: now what I've learned to do is, rather than worrying 879 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 3: about what I'm feeling now, think about how I'm going 880 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 3: to feel in twenty four hours. And so I'm like, 881 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:39,480 Speaker 3: am I going to feel good when I wake up 882 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,839 Speaker 3: in the morning like that? And what am I What 883 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,359 Speaker 3: can I do now to make myself feel good in tomorrow, 884 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,520 Speaker 3: in five years time, in ten years time. What I'm 885 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 3: doing now is defining what that's going to feel like 886 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,760 Speaker 3: in the future. And so like sometimes our temporary emotions 887 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,840 Speaker 3: guide us, but I think some living in the temporary 888 00:37:55,880 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 3: is what causes sometimes permanent pain, and so I've really 889 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 3: tried to like strip that away. 890 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 1: It's like completely for you, it's sugar. For me, it's alcohol. 891 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,480 Speaker 1: Oh okay, it's tequila, because not only that's the thing, 892 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 1: I don't like how it makes me feel the next day, 893 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 1: or how it makes my skin look, because I could 894 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 1: see my fine lines a little more the next. 895 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 2: Day, yes, prune, Yes. 896 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,319 Speaker 1: Honestly, And I'm like, oh, I'm like if the first 897 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 1: thing that made me want to stop drinking is like, 898 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,319 Speaker 1: oh my god, my body's getting old, and I just 899 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,400 Speaker 1: I want to age gracefully and the whole thing, you know. 900 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 1: But it got to the point where for work, but 901 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 1: then I couldn't be I can like be invited to 902 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 1: a party and I'm like, oh, everyone else is drinking 903 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,879 Speaker 1: and I'm not drinking, and I'll take yes, it's a thing, 904 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 1: it's not I want to practice that discipline to feel 905 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:40,919 Speaker 1: like I can still go have a freaking good time 906 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 1: and not need to have a tequila. Before it was 907 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:45,279 Speaker 1: like I know, I don't really want it, but I 908 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,279 Speaker 1: need it. And that's where I was like this is 909 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,480 Speaker 1: an issue because it's not even like, oh, I'm gonna 910 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 1: have a drink because I really just want it. It's 911 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:52,840 Speaker 1: I need it because if not, I can't like mingle. 912 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 1: And I'm like, that's not good. 913 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:56,960 Speaker 2: No, when your past and Aunty is so fun by 914 00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:57,520 Speaker 2: the way, X. 915 00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,920 Speaker 1: Man and I, Ah, I'm drinking is this And I'm like, no, 916 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 1: I think it's the conversation too, because I'm just like, 917 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 1: I might. 918 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,200 Speaker 3: Tell you that being the sober person around lots of 919 00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 3: drunk people is a nice fun Oh. I was like, really, 920 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,399 Speaker 3: it's fun when you're watching it, and then it gets 921 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,799 Speaker 3: to the point where the conversations are just like you like, 922 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,800 Speaker 3: you're not gonna remember this, and you're having a conversation 923 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,759 Speaker 3: different to me, but we're in the same conversation, And 924 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,400 Speaker 3: so I can totally understand why you find it difficult 925 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,400 Speaker 3: because having been sober my whole life and not having drunk, 926 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:30,359 Speaker 3: it's a difficult scene to navigate, especially when you're when 927 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,360 Speaker 3: you're going out and doing the things that you're doing, 928 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 3: Like it's so hard you just want to be participating, 929 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 3: and you almost feel like you're not participating if you're 930 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 3: not in the same. 931 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 2: State of mind. For sure, but just know that you 932 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,120 Speaker 2: are just this fun. I think you will have so 933 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:43,719 Speaker 2: much fun with that. 934 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think. I'm like, I'm fun, I'm cool. I 935 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,040 Speaker 1: don't need the alcohol to like, you know, even in 936 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,239 Speaker 1: like on stage, I'm like, you know what, because that's 937 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 1: like calm your nerves a bit. No, honestly, it just 938 00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,520 Speaker 1: makes it funner for me because they're drinking and that 939 00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 1: the type of music that I sing is my reality. 940 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,200 Speaker 1: My job is to get them drunk, right, But then 941 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,879 Speaker 1: I feel then the other side of me that's very 942 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,319 Speaker 1: cheeky's right, because Chickus is you know, Chickus is like 943 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:11,000 Speaker 1: the entertainer. And then there's Jane, more spiritual person. I think, dude, 944 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 1: but in my Jeanne is yeah, it's my birth name. Yeah, 945 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 1: So I feel like Jane is more spiritual. And I think, 946 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:19,919 Speaker 1: what am I doing to these people? Like I'm getting 947 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:21,319 Speaker 1: them drunk and I'm like, you guys, please put on 948 00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 1: your seatbelts. After like getting them drunk, I'm I put 949 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 1: on your seatbelt, get an uber like I'm like, pray 950 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:28,719 Speaker 1: and I do. So I feel like I'm being pulled 951 00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,680 Speaker 1: into different directions sometimes. So now I'm like, wait a second, 952 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,480 Speaker 1: I need to just sit down and what do I 953 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,440 Speaker 1: really want? What is my soul asking for? And that's 954 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:38,920 Speaker 1: where I'm at right now. I'm like, I love what 955 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 1: I do. I'm so grateful like everything that my career 956 00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 1: has given me, I'm so grateful. But now I'm like, 957 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,239 Speaker 1: I can still do it, but I can do it 958 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,360 Speaker 1: in a different way. And what does that look like? 959 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:49,440 Speaker 1: And that's kind of where. 960 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,719 Speaker 2: In duality too, Like I think always so used to 961 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,000 Speaker 2: in this world, you're either this or you're this, and 962 00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:56,200 Speaker 2: people really struggle. 963 00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:56,319 Speaker 3: Then. 964 00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,120 Speaker 2: I don't know whether you've felt this since you've become 965 00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,080 Speaker 2: more and more well known where. 966 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,000 Speaker 3: People don't want you to be two things. You're either 967 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 3: this or you're this. And as soon as you show 968 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,880 Speaker 3: this flow of being in between or even being two 969 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:10,200 Speaker 3: at once, it's like I can be happy online, but 970 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,320 Speaker 3: I can also still be sad about something that's happening 971 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,960 Speaker 3: in my life. That's not me faking it, that's me 972 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,960 Speaker 3: allowing duality to happen in my life. Two things can 973 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,439 Speaker 3: be possible at the same time, and so you can 974 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:24,880 Speaker 3: be Cheekies and you can also be Jane and both 975 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,920 Speaker 3: can be true. It doesn't mean these are with such like, 976 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:31,759 Speaker 3: we have so many different personalities within one person, so 977 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:36,960 Speaker 3: many different like lifetimes within one lifetime. And so I think, 978 00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,239 Speaker 3: I agree, you grow and you change, and so maybe 979 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,400 Speaker 3: you do want to move into a different space, but 980 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,800 Speaker 3: I also think you're still being authentic. 981 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:44,759 Speaker 2: Because there's two different sides of. 982 00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,359 Speaker 1: You, and I've always been very open about it. Yeah, 983 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,480 Speaker 1: And I learned that in twenty eighteen when I had 984 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:53,680 Speaker 1: a burnout and I was like, Okay, in order to 985 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 1: keep doing what I'm doing, I need to like be 986 00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,080 Speaker 1: truthful about there's cheeks, and there's Jane, and there's this 987 00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:00,919 Speaker 1: is who I am, and you're gonna get a little 988 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:02,520 Speaker 1: bit of everything because that's who I am. Like I 989 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,319 Speaker 1: like to party, but then I love to pray and 990 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,759 Speaker 1: people will ask, well, oh my gosh, you like to 991 00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:08,560 Speaker 1: pray and you like to meditate and you like candles, 992 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,160 Speaker 1: but then you cuss or I'm like, yeah, you're right. 993 00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:13,719 Speaker 1: I do want to get better at the cursing, just 994 00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:15,560 Speaker 1: for my own sake because sometimes I don't like how 995 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,799 Speaker 1: it feels. But I'm like, but still, that's that's me, 996 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,520 Speaker 1: and I'm not going to fake the funk. But now 997 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,400 Speaker 1: I'm evolving, and now I'm like, Okay, something is happening. 998 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:25,839 Speaker 1: I don't know if because I'm ready to like I'm 999 00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:27,600 Speaker 1: ready to have a kid, and I'm like, you know what, 1000 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:32,560 Speaker 1: I really want to be good mind, spirit, the whole thing, mind, body, 1001 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,120 Speaker 1: and soul for my child when I conceive. So I 1002 00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:38,400 Speaker 1: think that's what's happening. But I've always had it in me. 1003 00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 1: It's just I think the world and it's like, you know, 1004 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,000 Speaker 1: I've been navigating through it, and. 1005 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:45,760 Speaker 2: I will always say just growing. It's like just because 1006 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:46,080 Speaker 2: you meant it. 1007 00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,360 Speaker 3: I always find this about me what people expect me 1008 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,400 Speaker 3: to be, like because I pray. 1009 00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,839 Speaker 2: Not meditate, and I share that online. It's like I 1010 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:53,880 Speaker 2: still get road rage. 1011 00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:54,920 Speaker 1: I still will. 1012 00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,319 Speaker 3: By the way, if you dm me something rude, there 1013 00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:58,719 Speaker 3: is a chance of getting a voice in the back 1014 00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:02,400 Speaker 3: that's not very nice, you know. I. And so this 1015 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,960 Speaker 3: this this duality of like, yes, I'm trying, but at 1016 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:07,640 Speaker 3: the same time, that doesn't mean I'm going to be 1017 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:11,319 Speaker 3: just air and bubbles and like happy and and just 1018 00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,719 Speaker 3: flowers all the time. It's not life. Yeah, And so 1019 00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,359 Speaker 3: I think people, Yeah, I think it's good to show 1020 00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,200 Speaker 3: people that, you know what, Yeah, I do play, but 1021 00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,000 Speaker 3: I also like town. 1022 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I will. I will defend myself if I need 1023 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,399 Speaker 1: to exactly, like, don't mess with me. I love God 1024 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,400 Speaker 1: up like you know, but yeah, see you get it, 1025 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,600 Speaker 1: you get me. What is your sign? 1026 00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,560 Speaker 2: By the way, what about you? 1027 00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:34,200 Speaker 1: I'm a cancer? Oh I have. 1028 00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:35,239 Speaker 2: Lots of cancers in my life. 1029 00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:39,080 Speaker 1: Really yeah awesome. Yeah, I'm a dune cancer. You know, 1030 00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:42,479 Speaker 1: we're we're a little different, you know, June and July, 1031 00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:43,360 Speaker 1: but we're all great. 1032 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:45,840 Speaker 3: My dad's a cancer and he is the most like 1033 00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:50,720 Speaker 3: one of the best people in all phenomenal, gentle, loving 1034 00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,160 Speaker 3: kind Yeah that's awesome. 1035 00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're very nurturing, as you know, very you know, 1036 00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,680 Speaker 1: very emotional, like I got super emotional when you got here. 1037 00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:00,839 Speaker 1: But no, I'm just so great. I wanted to have 1038 00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:04,040 Speaker 1: this conversation with you and like show my listeners and 1039 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,680 Speaker 1: like not feel not that I feel alone, because I 1040 00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:09,799 Speaker 1: know there's a lot of people like us. It's just 1041 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,200 Speaker 1: for a long time I felt alone in my life 1042 00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,279 Speaker 1: because I was in a way of misunderstand because I 1043 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,840 Speaker 1: didn't even understand what was going on and with my 1044 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,320 Speaker 1: spirituality and like being raised in a certain household and 1045 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,720 Speaker 1: very restricted and you know, there's a lot of rules 1046 00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:25,719 Speaker 1: with religion and stuff. And then when I just kind 1047 00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,120 Speaker 1: of like got into this and I just started like, 1048 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,960 Speaker 1: I'm learning, you know, and there's always room to learn. 1049 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,920 Speaker 1: I love to learn. I feel like knowledge is definitely power, 1050 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:35,799 Speaker 1: and that's why I was like, I need to have 1051 00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:37,520 Speaker 1: her on so we can talk about everything. 1052 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,719 Speaker 3: God, thank you for trusting me with your community. That 1053 00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,000 Speaker 3: is so sweet of you to even like invite me on. 1054 00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,239 Speaker 1: Honestly, absolutely, and I would love to have you on 1055 00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:46,520 Speaker 1: again if we could. There's so much to talk about. 1056 00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:46,920 Speaker 2: I know. 1057 00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,200 Speaker 1: Okay, so a good cry your podcast, tell us a 1058 00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:55,000 Speaker 1: little bit about your podcast, anything tell my community. 1059 00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,840 Speaker 3: So I yeah, it's called a really good cry. And 1060 00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:01,719 Speaker 3: I quoted that because I I wanted people to start 1061 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,319 Speaker 3: embracing emotions. I think I went through a big part 1062 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,480 Speaker 3: of my life where I have always been very emotional, 1063 00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:11,040 Speaker 3: felt other people's emotions, deeply, felt my own very deeply, 1064 00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:14,320 Speaker 3: and I would often hide it, especially the negative emotions. 1065 00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,319 Speaker 2: I'd be like, yeah, I'm happy, I'm this and that. 1066 00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,560 Speaker 3: And I realized I was just constant hiding behind this 1067 00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:22,759 Speaker 3: mask of pretending and not actually showing people how I felt. 1068 00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:24,040 Speaker 3: Whether it was because I didn't want to put that 1069 00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:25,680 Speaker 3: burden on them or whether it was because I wanted 1070 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:27,759 Speaker 3: people to feel like I was strong and independent and 1071 00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:31,200 Speaker 3: whatever it was. And then I started embracing my emotions 1072 00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:32,520 Speaker 3: and I was like, God, I'm. 1073 00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:33,080 Speaker 2: Such a crier. 1074 00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:37,040 Speaker 3: I cry about everything, and I think it's really important 1075 00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:40,760 Speaker 3: to be able to just accept the ebbs and flows 1076 00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:42,400 Speaker 3: of emotions. 1077 00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:42,879 Speaker 2: As you go through them. 1078 00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:44,960 Speaker 3: And so a really good cry was just that it 1079 00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:46,759 Speaker 3: was for me to feel, like you know, when you 1080 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:50,359 Speaker 3: come on, feel every emotion and feel it deeply. But 1081 00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:52,720 Speaker 3: also it's a space for I mean, I have health 1082 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:54,759 Speaker 3: experts on, I have friends one to just talk about 1083 00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,239 Speaker 3: everything to do with life. It's a space you can come, 1084 00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:00,239 Speaker 3: put your feet up, drink a Junie and just have 1085 00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,960 Speaker 3: really good conversation and again learning, Like I think, as 1086 00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,120 Speaker 3: soon as I think I know enough, that's when I 1087 00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:06,960 Speaker 3: know I've got too much ego in my life. Like 1088 00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,120 Speaker 3: you know, you know when you decide to stop learning 1089 00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:11,959 Speaker 3: is when there's something going wrong for sure. 1090 00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,160 Speaker 2: And so I definitely I like you. 1091 00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:17,799 Speaker 3: I just I love learning about every single part of 1092 00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,040 Speaker 3: life to do with health wellness. 1093 00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:21,960 Speaker 2: People that I would have never thought I would have. 1094 00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,520 Speaker 3: Connected to coming on the podcast, and I realized how 1095 00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:26,480 Speaker 3: wrong I had it about them, like how much I 1096 00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:28,920 Speaker 3: wanted to learn from them, and so it's changed my 1097 00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:32,160 Speaker 3: perspective on people, but also helped me to just connect 1098 00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,040 Speaker 3: to people that I would never normally speak to. 1099 00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, and learn for podcasts is so awesome, right, I 1100 00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,000 Speaker 1: love it. Like I always come even if I'm like 1101 00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:40,600 Speaker 1: not having a great day or I'm not feeling good, 1102 00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:42,680 Speaker 1: I come here and I forget about everything. Yeah, Like 1103 00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:44,840 Speaker 1: I just it's it's like therapy for me, where I 1104 00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,520 Speaker 1: could just this is just so healing. 1105 00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,080 Speaker 3: And you get things out of it, like I say 1106 00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,759 Speaker 3: things on in podcasts and in good conversations like this 1107 00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:53,040 Speaker 3: where I was like, god, I didn't even know I 1108 00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:55,439 Speaker 3: had that in me or oh my goodness, I didn't 1109 00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:56,719 Speaker 3: even know I felt that way. 1110 00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:58,480 Speaker 2: And so I think it allows for this. 1111 00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:00,600 Speaker 3: I think it's such a beautiful first day to like 1112 00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,160 Speaker 3: get to know you like this because we get to 1113 00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,239 Speaker 3: ask questions we probably would never ask each other. Yes, 1114 00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,800 Speaker 3: that's true, sitting here with the microphone, yeah, just. 1115 00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,560 Speaker 1: Talking and like literally like, yeah, I'm so glad we 1116 00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,880 Speaker 1: were finally able to like make it happen. Yeah, And 1117 00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:16,520 Speaker 1: if you can please before you go, can you please 1118 00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:21,799 Speaker 1: share your Instagram. Oh y, yes, and anything else you 1119 00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:25,600 Speaker 1: have your your cook but we said joyful, joyful junie 1120 00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,759 Speaker 1: Juni you guys, I'm not even joking. I put it on. 1121 00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,600 Speaker 1: I put them on my Instagram. A few times. I 1122 00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,279 Speaker 1: came across them. I don't remember how, to be honest, 1123 00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:36,919 Speaker 1: I don't remember how, but I came across them and 1124 00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,680 Speaker 1: I love them and I highly recommend them. And there's 1125 00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,600 Speaker 1: like anyways, but I love it because you're an entrepreneur, 1126 00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:47,120 Speaker 1: you're self taught cook, a nutritionist. Yeah and yeah, I 1127 00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:49,279 Speaker 1: love watching your stuff. You're just so hilarious too. 1128 00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:50,000 Speaker 2: I thank you. 1129 00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:51,719 Speaker 1: You are so funny. Oh my god, thank you. 1130 00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:53,360 Speaker 2: I love a bit of laughter. 1131 00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:56,680 Speaker 3: I feel like anything, everything comes, everything is received better. 1132 00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:58,200 Speaker 2: When you have a bit of laughter in your life. 1133 00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:00,600 Speaker 2: But I need to get you on my pot. I 1134 00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:02,640 Speaker 2: was like, feel like I have we need pot two 1135 00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:02,920 Speaker 2: of this. 1136 00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,360 Speaker 1: We do, absolutely, I would love to. It would be 1137 00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,200 Speaker 1: a complete honor. Thank you. I can't thank you enough 1138 00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,680 Speaker 1: for taking the time to come and and give us 1139 00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:15,000 Speaker 1: just bring us light here onto chickens and chill and yeah, 1140 00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,360 Speaker 1: let's do it part two and a really good cry. 1141 00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,000 Speaker 1: You guys, thank you so much for listening. I hope 1142 00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:23,520 Speaker 1: that you learned again. Thank you for coming on to grow, 1143 00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:26,880 Speaker 1: to learn, to become a better you, all of us altogether. 1144 00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,520 Speaker 1: Because this is always a note to myself as well 1145 00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:31,840 Speaker 1: as I'm speaking to you, guys, I'm speaking to myself. 1146 00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:33,759 Speaker 1: So just know that I love you and I appreciate you, 1147 00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:35,920 Speaker 1: and I'll see you on the next episode of Chickens 1148 00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:36,200 Speaker 1: and Chill. 1149 00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:37,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1150 00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:45,760 Speaker 1: This is a production of iHeartRadio and my podcast network. 1151 00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:49,920 Speaker 1: Follow us on Instagram at my podcasts and follow me 1152 00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:53,880 Speaker 1: Cheeky's That's c h i q u y s. 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