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Speaker 1: Hiras, please, Hey boo, do you have a good Fourth

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to ghosted guys. I got a story in

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Speaker 1: she says. Several years ago, I worked at a nursing

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Speaker 1: Dark shadows. Oh that's not good. This was one experience

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Speaker 1: I can see where I mean. Obviously, there's a lot

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Speaker 1: And the nurse said, oh, yeah. A lot of times

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Speaker 1: So the plot thickens on my childhood ghost experiences. All right,

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Speaker 1: It is so funny.

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Speaker 2: It's a spooky is spooky, it's right in your wheelhouse totally.

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Speaker 1: Wait, you believe in ghosts absolutely? When did you start

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Speaker 1: Are you a horror fan?

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Speaker 1: Well, now what's your horror?

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Speaker 1: What gets you? Because for me, it's like if I

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Speaker 2: Really yeah, like demons, exorcisms, that kind of shit.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't Are you more of a murderer?

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Speaker 2: I'm more I get really spooked by like psychological manipulation,

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Speaker 2: Like whenever there's a character that's okay, you know what

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Speaker 1: That stuff gets me because I was raised Catholic Yeah.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about drama. Catholic church is draa I know

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Speaker 2: what happened, Well, I was living I grew up in Washington, DC.

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Speaker 1: Well, obviously lots of history, a lot of history, lots

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Speaker 2: I feel like I have a profound power to communicate

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Speaker 1: Totally you sound very similar to me. Yeah, which ps

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. And I mean my thing about

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437
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Speaker 2: nine million psychics, a billion tarot card readers, you know,

438
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:32,480
Speaker 2: like name it, I've done it and I've talked to them.

439
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,439
Speaker 1: And so how was the success with that.

440
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 2: I talked to? I talked to a clairvoyant who was crazy, Like, no, not,

441
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 2: she was crazy. The experience was crazy, Like I got

442
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 2: she was on the over the phone. We spoke on

443
00:24:56,160 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 2: the phone, and she immediately lee and I was really

444
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 2: like paranoid because I I never want people to like

445
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,360
Speaker 2: look at my name and then see that my mom

446
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:14,119
Speaker 2: is dead and then like see what I do? Right, So,

447
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 2: like I emailed her from like another email address like

448
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 2: didn't have my name and it like I was just

449
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 2: like went through all of these precautions to like see

450
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:25,360
Speaker 2: if I could really get this experience. And the first

451
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 2: thing she said to me, she was like she was like,

452
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:31,399
Speaker 2: I'm I'm so sorry. I usually don't like start off

453
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,879
Speaker 2: the conversation like this my first time talking to someone,

454
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 2: but your mom is just like really bothering me to

455
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,119
Speaker 2: get through to you. And I was like, that's crazy.

456
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 2: And then she was saying things in the way that

457
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,159
Speaker 2: my mom would say them and like speaking to me

458
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 2: in the way that my mom would speak to me.

459
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,959
Speaker 2: And I was just like, that's so crazy. And her

460
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:59,200
Speaker 2: experience with being a clairvoyant was she got very sick

461
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 2: and like when she because I asked her, I was like,

462
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 2: how did you get into this line of work? Like

463
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 2: what led you to be? And she got really sick

464
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 2: and she was kind of like in and out of,

465
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:15,640
Speaker 2: you know, consciousness and in between things, and that's kind

466
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 2: of what allowed her to do her work. And she

467
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,959
Speaker 2: just like meditates a lot on someone's energy and then

468
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:23,880
Speaker 2: kind of like taps into what's going on with them.

469
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 2: And then I was basically like having these full on

470
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 2: conversations with my mom and this woman was telling me,

471
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,159
Speaker 2: like she knew that my mom died of lung cancer.

472
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 2: She was like, she was like, your mom wants me

473
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,119
Speaker 2: to tell you that when she died, she wasn't in

474
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:42,199
Speaker 2: pain and that her chest really bothered her, but by

475
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 2: the time she died it was alleviated and it was fine.

476
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 2: And I was like, how the fuck did she know that,

477
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 2: because like, even if you could look at my mom,

478
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 2: you could look up her obituary, it didn't say, you know,

479
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 2: this woman died of lung cancer, you know what I mean,

480
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 2: There's been no way of knowing that.

481
00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's real, and like that kind of.

482
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 2: Stuff became bizarre. And then the more and more I

483
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 2: ached for my mom, the more and more I started

484
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 2: like seeing her. It was really crazy, really yeah, and

485
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 2: like I would also have me and my my aunt

486
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:18,400
Speaker 2: and uncle have had the same dream about her. It's

487
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:26,719
Speaker 2: our mom, my mom. There sister appears that she has

488
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 2: just come out of a body of water, like she's wet,

489
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 2: Like her hair is wet, her skin is wet, and

490
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 2: she's like in wet kind of like white calf tanny,

491
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 2: like sheathy clothing and she's just like there in this

492
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 2: like very plain room with you talking. It's really weird.

493
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 2: And we've had that same dream on the same night,

494
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 2: and like that's happened multiple times.

495
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've heard of that shared dream experiences.

496
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 2: It's very bizarre.

497
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 1: It is very bizarre. But it's like and what I

498
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 1: always wonder is, like why on this night did that happen?

499
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 2: You know? Yeah? And I think that, like I think

500
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:11,719
Speaker 2: that just as we miss people in this current sphere,

501
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 2: people miss us where they are too, you know what

502
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:20,360
Speaker 2: I mean? And no one knows what happens after we die,

503
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 2: and we are just energy and energy is transferable, and like,

504
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 2: I don't know, you know what I mean?

505
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 1: I know is that it goes somewhere, It goes somewhere,

506
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 1: It has to go somewhere.

507
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,640
Speaker 2: But the first time that like I really saw my mom,

508
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 2: because I've seen my mom, like.

509
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 1: You've seen it, like a full body like apparition of

510
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 1: your mom.

511
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 2: Yes, really, yes, And I know that these things are

512
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 2: I know it's my brain creating her and I understand that.

513
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 1: And like a logical.

514
00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 2: Because I think that our I think that like we

515
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 2: can conjure. I think that when a spirit is present

516
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 2: with us, we can put a physical embodiment on the

517
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 2: spirit to help us understand what it is. Do you

518
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying?

519
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 1: Oh, what about when that's a shared experience by other people?

520
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 2: And I think that that's I think that that's like

521
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 2: a similar thing. I think that when you can because

522
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 2: it's my mom, when I can identify the spirit so strongly,

523
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 2: I can put a body to it, do you know

524
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 2: what I'm saying? Whereas when you're dealing with the spirits

525
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 2: of people that you've never met, or people that are

526
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 2: dwelling in the same area as you're dwelling. I think

527
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 2: it's harder to maybe identify it as like a real,

528
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 2: tangible person. And but this is just my theory. Again,

529
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 2: no one has any fucking idea, So like it could

530
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 2: just be her literal ghost that was there, Like I

531
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 2: don't know, you know what I mean. But it was

532
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 2: over a Thanksgiving holiday and I was staying in the

533
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 2: My mom, toward the end of her life, lived with

534
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 2: her sister and lived in this room in her house.

535
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 2: And I was sleeping alone in that room of her house,

536
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 2: which I always it was always hard for me to

537
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 2: get a RESTful night's sleep in that room. It was

538
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 2: always filled with history, you know, and I was it

539
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 2: was Yeah, it was around Thanksgiving, and I was so

540
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 2: badly missing her, like sobbing to myself at night, just

541
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 2: pleading to see her in any capacity and to just

542
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 2: like feel that she was around me in any in

543
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 2: any way. And then in the middle of the night,

544
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 2: I truly woke up and there was like a little

545
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 2: seating area next to a window, and I looked up

546
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 2: and my mom was literally just sitting there like looking

547
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 2: at me. And it was so I'm gonna start crying

548
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 2: because it was so intense and like real, and I

549
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 2: knew that I couldn't like get out of bed and

550
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 2: touch her, and I knew that like that vision was

551
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 2: kind of like as close as I could get, but

552
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 2: it made my whole I was just it was like

553
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 2: the most surreal thing I've ever seen in my life,

554
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 2: in my life, and that room was like pitch black,

555
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 2: but somehow there was like light on her and it

556
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 2: wasn't very detailed, like it wasn't like super detailed than

557
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 2: the fact that it was just like her and it

558
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 2: was like bizarre. It was crazy.

559
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, And you could probably feel her energy right ye,

560
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: comfort yes, yeah, And.

561
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the first time that I like really

562
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 2: interacted with like a real ghost.

563
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 1: It's hard to call that a ghost when it's like

564
00:31:58,480 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: a loved.

565
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 2: One, Yeah, and it's like a it's not like yeah,

566
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 2: and it's all of my like ghost interactions prior to

567
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 2: that have all been me being in a room being like,

568
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 2: I know there are a bunch of fucking ghosts around.

569
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 2: I don't please, do not see me right now, do

570
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 2: not fuck with me right now. Like it's been that

571
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 2: kind of energy. And that was like the first time

572
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 2: that I had ever been like fully open to like

573
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 2: seeing her, you know what I mean, definitely, But when

574
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 2: I was in middle school, the only other time that

575
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 2: I kind of think I saw a ghost was my

576
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 2: friend lived in this house where her aunt told her

577
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 2: it was it was her. She grew up with her grandparents.

578
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 2: She had heard from like her great aunt that a

579
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 2: little girl, a ghost of a little girl who looked

580
00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 2: just like her, lived in the house that looked.

581
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: Just like your friend that was living. Still. Yes, okay, and.

582
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 2: We're like, okay, this is spooky, and that sometimes when

583
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 2: my friend would my friend would take naps with like

584
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 2: her aunt or her family members when she was little,

585
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,479
Speaker 2: and she remembers them waking up saying saying, Sarah, come

586
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 2: back to bed, but it was the little girl sitting

587
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 2: on the end of the edge of the bed, and

588
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 2: they'd turn and see Sarah laying down in the bed

589
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 2: and they'd be all fucked up from it.

590
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: Do you feel that children ghosts are creepier than adults?

591
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 2: Yes? Why because a child children shouldn't die. Well, yeah,

592
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 2: so like number one, number two, a child's energy is

593
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 2: like playful and erratic, and I think that when you're

594
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 2: dealing with that kind of energy and a ghost that

595
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 2: is something that is so foreign and like different to us.

596
00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 2: I think it becomes really hard to handle that's a child,

597
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 2: because kids want to play games and kids want to

598
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 2: interact with you in a way that's not straightforward.

599
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 1: I just feel like in movies and like when I

600
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:14,240
Speaker 1: talk to people, they're always talking about how spooky children

601
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 1: ghosts are.

602
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,720
Speaker 2: Children goes freak me out more than grown up ghosts.

603
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: I just think children ghosts. I know, I think I

604
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: think that. Yeah, I do think about that. Children. I

605
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: mean it's I feel sorry for them that they died,

606
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 1: But I also just feel like, you know, like I

607
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 1: like kids, and I feel like adults are like like

608
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 1: they have intentions more like.

609
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 2: Well, adults have more history, so when they die, they

610
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 2: have left more ship behind. So when a kid, when

611
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:53,439
Speaker 2: a child unfortunately dies, they haven't had you know, they're

612
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 2: not there for revenge or people that have done them

613
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:59,839
Speaker 2: wrong or unless it was a terrible, terrible situation. But like, yeah,

614
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 2: I feel like grown ups usually had just have more history,

615
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 2: so there's more shit for them to pop off about,

616
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I want to be I

617
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 2: want to be a ghost when I die.

618
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 1: Me too, I want to be the world's first drag

619
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: queen ghost.

620
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 2: You will be.

621
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: I've never heard of one.

622
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,320
Speaker 2: I've never heard of one either, But there are like

623
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 2: places I do believe in, like super haunted places. I

624
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 2: grew up wood in Nantucket, which is a very very spooky,

625
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 2: haunted island.

626
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: I've never been.

627
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 2: It's in Massachusetts. It is an island that is literally

628
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:39,240
Speaker 2: built on the wealth of you know, evil white people

629
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 2: killing whales and it's a whaling that's like how they

630
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 2: the wealthy people that lived there. It was a whaling island.

631
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 2: So there's like and also just you know, killing Native

632
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 2: Americans and all of that.

633
00:35:55,960 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 1: Well, I mean every place is a haunted place in America. Yeah,

634
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:01,399
Speaker 1: I mean think about La.

635
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 2: La feels like less haunted to me, you know, because

636
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 2: I think that La has like the mask of Hollywood

637
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 2: over it. So everything in a way kind of feels

638
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 2: like a made up story to me, you know what

639
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 2: I'm saying. And I'm also an East Coaster, so for me,

640
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 2: like East Coast horror like terrifies me. But then again,

641
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 2: so does like what happens in the Pacific Northwest spooky

642
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 2: spookie place to me up there. Yeah, like in Washington, State,

643
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,320
Speaker 2: like the Witch Trials all of that stuff. Yeah, that

644
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 2: shit scares me.

645
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not as scared of Hollywood Goes. I actually

646
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 1: like am into Hollywood Goes. Yeah, there's a lot of

647
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: just like I mean, it is sad that that they

648
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,800
Speaker 1: had to die, but there's so much unfinished business is

649
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,800
Speaker 1: what I feel about in LA. But it's like a

650
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 1: lot of ghosts that you know, came here for a

651
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:56,959
Speaker 1: reason trying to achieve something right.

652
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 2: And then like like rob from them and it got

653
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 2: taken away from them.

654
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, I already know people like that living like

655
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 1: it's not doesn't scare me.

656
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 2: There were like always though, did you grow up? Where

657
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 2: did you grow up?

658
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,320
Speaker 1: Michigan spooky place? Every place?

659
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 2: Did you grow up though? With like places where people

660
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,439
Speaker 2: will be like, oh and this ghost like lives there?

661
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 1: Did you?

662
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 2: And I always think about that because I always think

663
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 2: like if enough people say that that ghost is like

664
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 2: living in that spot, then of course that ghost is

665
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 2: living in that spot.

666
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 1: I just think about when I'm that ghost and like

667
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 1: everyone's talking about me.

668
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 2: And there you go and the event you become famous.

669
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, I yeah, I think that I still now

670
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 2: interact with ghosts in a way where like sometimes I

671
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 2: think it sounds like I'm schizophrenic, but sometimes I think

672
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 2: that I'll like see glimpses of people and they're just.

673
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 1: Like not there, oh totally.

674
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,240
Speaker 2: And that's why I had to stop smoking weed because

675
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:05,879
Speaker 2: we just like made me way too.

676
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: Like drugs can do that, they can open your mind

677
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 1: up to.

678
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I just like when high school, whenever I

679
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 2: would smoke weed, I would always like see this person

680
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 2: that I swear was trying to communicate with me. But

681
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 2: when I would see him, it was a guy and

682
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 2: he was like probably in his late twenties, and I

683
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 2: would literally just see him every time I would smoke weed.

684
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 2: And I don't know if that was a manifestation in

685
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 2: my brain or if that was a ghost that was

686
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 2: like trying to communicate with me.

687
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 1: You would see him briefly, or I would be like

688
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 1: my friends and.

689
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:36,959
Speaker 2: I'd be walking down the street and I would see

690
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 2: like we walked past like a street lamp and I

691
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 2: would turn, he'd be like leaning against it, and then

692
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 2: he'd be gone. It would be fucking scary. There was

693
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 2: a time where I was like, am I am I?

694
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,919
Speaker 2: Am I actually seeing things interesting? But then I brought

695
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 2: it up to my mom and then she was like, no,

696
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 2: like when I would smoke weed, like I would see

697
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,800
Speaker 2: shit too. Sometimes it's just like putting your brain on

698
00:38:58,840 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 2: a different channel.

699
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: That's never happened to me.

700
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean maybe I was smoking like PCP.

701
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: I might have been.

702
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 2: Was the guy cute ah more just like kind of

703
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 2: like scruffy and like just there and.

704
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 1: He was like.

705
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 2: I like didn't mind because he was just like hot,

706
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 2: And I was like if he's hot and just like

707
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 2: watching me, like that's cool, like whatever, maybe we'll meet

708
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 2: one day.

709
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 1: Should I try PCP?

710
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 2: No, okay, just definitely not.

711
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 1: Wait, okay, so go back. Let's go back to your

712
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 1: friend that had the little girl ghost. Did you you

713
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 1: saw the ghosts?

714
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 2: So there was always this like her house was really

715
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:40,879
Speaker 2: one of those places that was like this ghost lives

716
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 2: in that house, you know. So we always heard that

717
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 2: she would have flushed the toilet. That was like a

718
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 2: thing that she would flush the toilet. And my friend

719
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, she flushes the toilet, and like it

720
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:03,720
Speaker 2: happens like sometimes at night sometimes like whatever, but it happens,

721
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 2: and like that's her, and I never believed her. And

722
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:11,240
Speaker 2: then one night sure enough, I heard the toilet flush

723
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 2: and I literally heard like a pitter patter of footsteps,

724
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:25,879
Speaker 2: and I freaked the fuck out. Yeah, I freaked out.

725
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 2: I could not sleep. I turned the lights and I

726
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 2: freaked out, and that was terrifying.

727
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I couldn't.

728
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 2: Sleep at her house. I've sleepovers were always hard for me,

729
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 2: Like I always wanted to have sleepovers because my parents

730
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 2: had a really unhappy marriage, so I always wanted to

731
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 2: leave the house. But then you go into a new

732
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,280
Speaker 2: person's house, you need to deal with their weird fucking

733
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 2: energy there. Then after that happened, I was like, oh, bitch,

734
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:53,840
Speaker 2: I cannot sleep in your house. I don't like that

735
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 2: way with hotel hotels are sinister.

736
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 1: Her, you don't know what's happened in these.

737
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 2: My mom stayed at the hotel where they shot the

738
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 2: Shining Oh yeah, at hotel in upstate New York. Huh,

739
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 2: And she said, because that hotel is famously haunted.

740
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 1: It's like about the Stanley Hotel, which is in Colorado,

741
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: which is what they based it on.

742
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 2: I I know. I think my mom stayed at like

743
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 2: the literal hotel that they shot it in, which is

744
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:29,320
Speaker 2: also supposed to be like terrifying as fuck, Okay, and

745
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,800
Speaker 2: she was like she told me that it was she

746
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 2: couldn't sleep. She just like hearing shit. Yeah, and just

747
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 2: crazy stuff.

748
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,479
Speaker 1: Well, going back to your whole thing about that scene

749
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 1: in the movie when you find out shit, I every

750
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 1: time I'm in a hotel, it's like late night, like whatever,

751
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: the show's over, whatever, I'm in bad and I'm like looking.

752
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,320
Speaker 1: The first thing I look up is whatever this hotel

753
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 1: is haunted. And I know that one of these days

754
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be scrolling and I'm gonna actually find something

755
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,240
Speaker 1: and it's going to be like the room I'm staying

756
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: in is where the RN.

757
00:41:58,360 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 2: But that's like if you ever go to the chateaul

758
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 2: oh here in La Oh, Yeah, you know so many

759
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 2: people have died there. Yeah, so many people have done

760
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 2: crazy shit has happened there. Let's forget that John Belushi.

761
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 1: Died there, yeah, and one of the bungalows.

762
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Helmet Newton, amazing photographer, died there. A lot

763
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 2: of people died there.

764
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and then that goes back to that energy

765
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 1: of Hollywood and who knows.

766
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 2: That kind of like reckless, drug.

767
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: Fueled energy and dream shattering dreams coming true.

768
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 2: And the Black Dahlia House another Did you know that

769
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 2: that house someone finally bought that house? What house where

770
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:36,720
Speaker 2: the black the like that murder?

771
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah. Oh are you about the the flank frank

772
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 1: Lloyd Wright Junior House. I think so, the one on

773
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: Franklin Yeah, yeah, I obsessed with that house. Yeah. It's

774
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 1: the house that the man wrote the book that Black

775
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 1: Dahlia Avenger that he grew up in that house and

776
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 1: he believes that his father murdered the Black Dahlia in the.

777
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 2: Basement, right exactly. Yes, And it's like a tourist attraction.

778
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: It wasn't in credible architecture house.

779
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like that kind of I mean, that is

780
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 2: the cool thing about Hollywood. You know when people go

781
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 2: I mean it's so fucked up, but you know when

782
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 2: people go on like the O. J. Simpson tour yeah,

783
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 2: oh yeah yeah, or like there's murder tours.

784
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's Charles Manson one.

785
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it takes you to see like, and here's

786
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 2: where the lawn that had happened, in the street that

787
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 2: had happened, and all of this stuff. You can't help

788
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 2: but think, like, what's going on here?

789
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 1: Well, it's just human nature. I mean, people are so

790
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 1: interested in sex, murder, what happens when we die, Like

791
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 1: it's just like it's just what.

792
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,800
Speaker 2: But not everyone believes in ghosts. Yeah, a lot of

793
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 2: people think it's bullshit, and a lot of people you're

794
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 2: but a lot of people think that you that you

795
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,280
Speaker 2: that you're crazy, and it's like, no, I'm not being crazy.

796
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 2: There was also at my elementary school when I was

797
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 2: really little, now that I'm thinking about it, I did

798
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,839
Speaker 2: interact with an old man in a hallway that when

799
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 2: I went back into a room, I was like, there's

800
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 2: an old guy in the hallway and everyone was like, no,

801
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,359
Speaker 2: there's not and then everyone was like no. And now

802
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 2: that I think back in it, I was like, that

803
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 2: was definitely a ghost.

804
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 1: What was the interaction?

805
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 2: He was just like said hey to me, and I

806
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 2: was like hey, I'm like that was kind of it.

807
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 2: And then I was like, who's the old man in

808
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,919
Speaker 2: the hallway And they were like what are you talking about?

809
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 1: So he must have been like not a see through

810
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 1: Like no, he was like a person person. Yeah, they

811
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 1: come in all shapes inside.

812
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, but no one saw him, No one had ever

813
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 2: seen him, nothing like that. Maybe I'm just like I don't.

814
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 1: Know you want to play a game. Yeah, okay, is this?

815
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 2: Has this been interesting? Has this been good for you?

816
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 1: Obsessed? You have so many stories. I feel like there's

817
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: a lot more to talk about, but we'll save it

818
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 1: Part two provert to Okay, this game.

819
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,760
Speaker 2: I'm excited to play this game if I think I know, it's.

820
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 1: The easiest game in the world. Okay, So this game

821
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: is where I find EVPs. Do you know what an

822
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 1: EVP is? Yes, it's electronic voice phenomenas when they record ghosts.

823
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 2: That's like you've a watch on ghost Hunters.

824
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: Totally.

825
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

826
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 1: So okay, this game is called EVP or ev plase. Okay,

827
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 1: and I have found some EVPs now this These are

828
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 1: both two EVPs that come from Birmingham ghost Hunters. And

829
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 1: I found this on YouTube and they have this little

830
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 1: blurb on this video. It says, hi, guys, tonight we

831
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 1: got called out to a family in need of answers.

832
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 1: Every time they are all together as a family, they

833
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 1: keep getting random swear words through a speaker that is

834
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:49,359
Speaker 1: connected to a bluetooth. Yeah, this is in England. We're

835
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,800
Speaker 1: going to hear this video is about demon voices. So

836
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: these are the voices that they captured. Tell me what

837
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:55,359
Speaker 1: you think.

838
00:45:55,400 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 3: This first one says, wait, play it again, whore.

839
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:14,320
Speaker 1: Well, here's the now. Of course we're just guessing what

840
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 1: Birmingham ghost Hunter's guest. But that's an option. This They

841
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 1: did not think this was a curse word. But what

842
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:26,760
Speaker 1: they uh It could be either A I see.

843
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 2: Now, b.

844
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:35,280
Speaker 1: I ce do Maybe they like do like jet skis

845
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 1: see high see juice you remember how I see.

846
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 2: Like ye yeah, or D just like I think it's D.

847
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 1: It's actually a I see you.

848
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 2: You can't hear this listen, Okay, yeah, I can hear

849
00:46:59,600 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 2: that now.

850
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 1: It's like a real.

851
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 2: Horror.

852
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 1: I hear that one a lot. Okay, here's the next one.

853
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 2: Tell me, why do you think that's real?

854
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:17,800
Speaker 1: I don't know. That one sounded like real clear. Sometimes

855
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,320
Speaker 1: I hear these ones where it's like that was just

856
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 1: some man behind the camera that was just like I

857
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 1: see you. It's like that's not ghost Another one, Okay,

858
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 1: this next one sounds different. It's from the same investigation. Apparently,

859
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 1: it sounds maybe it was on like a spirit box,

860
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 1: which is, you know, a different way of capturing. To me,

861
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 1: this one sounds like buzz light Year. It's quick.

862
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 2: I'm drunk.

863
00:47:56,560 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 1: Okay, is it a blow job? That's what I think.

864
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: It sounds like b Little John the Rapper.

865
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 2: It sounds like Little John.

866
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 1: See Hello John? Or d Buddha Judge.

867
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 2: I'm going with D Vudha Judge.

868
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 1: It's actually see Hello John. I think it's blow job.

869
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 2: I think it's I'm drunk.

870
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 1: I'm drunk is good too. I wonder if demons get

871
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: drunk totally, demons have demons?

872
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think that there's like a fine line.

873
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 2: And obviously I'm not an expert at this, but I

874
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 2: think there's a fine line between a demon and a

875
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 2: ghost spirit. I don't think so, not because I think

876
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 2: if you're a demon, you're demonic. So I think that

877
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:57,360
Speaker 2: like you're there too, you're there for evil, your intention

878
00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 2: is evil. I think that like, there are a lot

879
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 2: of spirits out there that are just chilling, trying to

880
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 2: like fucking enjoy themselves. That it's not based on like

881
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 2: being a demon, more like a you know, like Gena

882
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 2: Davis type vibe from Beetlejuice.

883
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, well yeah, because they don't know that there ghost right. Yeah.

884
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 1: I think I think a demon was never a human,

885
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? I think that's like the

886
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:28,240
Speaker 1: big thing with a demon in my eyes?

887
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:31,399
Speaker 2: Do you think people can be possessed? Hell?

888
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, got this Catholic guilt and this Catholic I'm messed

889
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 1: up from that stuff.

890
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 2: I know.

891
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 1: I believe that for sure.

892
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:41,879
Speaker 2: I also think that, like you know, when you see

893
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 2: people just become really nasty, I'm like, something is possessing them, definitely,

894
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 2: because like I just think that we like I think

895
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:56,320
Speaker 2: that like spirits get transferred when like a new body

896
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 2: is born and you just like never know what's gonna

897
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 2: like pop in that kid.

898
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 1: Defn Have you ever seen the TV show Ghost Inside

899
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 1: My Child? Oh my god, No, Okay, do yourself the favor.

900
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 1: It's I think you watch on Amazon Prime. It's it's

901
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 1: about people who like their kids starts talking about Oh yeah,

902
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 1: I'm like my my brother used to take me to

903
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 1: that dairy queen and they're like, you don't have a brother.

904
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 2: And then they find out this happens though, Like you know,

905
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 2: when people when I was little, everyone's like, you're you're

906
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 2: such an old soul, Like how do you know this?

907
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 2: Whenever people say that, I'm always like, it's because we

908
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 2: possess like multiple spirits inside of us when someone looks

909
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,240
Speaker 2: familiar to you or when you think.

910
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 1: That like, oh we've Yeah, I firmly believe and this

911
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:51,839
Speaker 1: is my opinion. And when it comes to heaven, hell

912
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 1: all that stuff, I think that it's a rebirth and

913
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 1: a reincarnation. Really like I think that we are on

914
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 1: this earth, we have our experience, we learn our lessons,

915
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 1: and then we move on to the next life. Yeah,

916
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 1: and that's when I think sometimes people are like I

917
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: feel like we knew each other in a past life.

918
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:10,399
Speaker 1: Like I really do believe in that kind of thing.

919
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 2: Me too.

920
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 1: I think people are in our lives for a reason.

921
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:15,839
Speaker 1: I agree, and I think that this is all It's like, Yeah,

922
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 1: you want to take care of your body so that

923
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 1: you have your spirit has a great experience while it's

924
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 1: in it, but ultimately, like we're just spiritual beings that

925
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 1: are just you know, hanging out in this gorgeous gown

926
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 1: for a couple of years, you know what I mean?

927
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 2: I know, I do know. I also think that like

928
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 2: when people feel like they've found their soulmate, they just

929
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 2: like are finding someone that they were padsming with like

930
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:42,760
Speaker 2: in a past life.

931
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 1: And when this life is over, they'll find each other

932
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 1: somewhere else too. I know it's great. I think it's wonderful.

933
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 1: That gives me a lot of comfort me too.

934
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 2: I think that like my whole thing with believing in

935
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 2: ghosts and spirits and afterlife and like things like that,

936
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 2: it mostly just brings me comfort and makes me feel like, okay,

937
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 2: dying is fine. Like it makes it like less scary,

938
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, because it is just like

939
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:11,280
Speaker 2: a massive unknown.

940
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 1: It is an unknown, but I mean for people like

941
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 1: you and I have had these experiences with loved ones,

942
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 1: it's like it's reaffirming that, like it's all gonna be okay,

943
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 1: And like I.

944
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 2: Do believe that once like you know, I don't know,

945
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 2: I think that like a spirit, Like I think that

946
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 2: like my mom, for example, I'm sure that like once

947
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 2: her once my I think that once more people join

948
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 2: her and wherever she is there's like more rest involved,

949
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Yeah, like I still think

950
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 2: she feels like she has to like care for me

951
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 2: and my sister. Well, she's still like doing work, you

952
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 2: know what I mean.

953
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:57,359
Speaker 1: I don't, Yeah, I mean, I don't I think that her.

954
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 1: I don't know, but it seems like you know, you

955
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 1: really wanted to speak to her and she's like, oh, here,

956
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 1: just so.

957
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 2: You know, and that happens, Like it doesn't happen in

958
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 2: the literal form that it happened that one time, but like,

959
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 2: you know, something like weird shit, like I'll be needing

960
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 2: to see my mom and then like the other day,

961
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 2: like a hummingbird literally was just making eye contact with

962
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 2: me through my kitchen window and I'm just like, this

963
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 2: is crazy. Or a song will come on the radio totally,

964
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 2: or you know, just random random shit like that, or

965
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 2: someone will walk by me that smells like her, like

966
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 2: random weird things well.

967
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 1: And stuff like that. I think only happens when a

968
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 1: soul is at peace. Yeah, you know. I I think

969
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 1: when we think of ghosts, we think of people like

970
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:55,359
Speaker 1: haunting a place. I think that that is not being

971
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 1: able to pass on to the other side. And I

972
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 1: think that that's more are being you know, for whatever reason,

973
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 1: you're trapped right there.

974
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think my mom is trapped.

975
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 1: She's not. I don't think so.

976
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:09,800
Speaker 2: No. And I also think that I think it's like

977
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:13,799
Speaker 2: a happy amount of we need to will things into

978
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 2: existence as well. So I think that it's like part

979
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:22,760
Speaker 2: will and mutual wills coming together to like manifest something

980
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 2: like a hummingbird or things like that. You know what

981
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 2: I'm saying. And I think that these things are just

982
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 2: sort of vessel like symbolic vessels that sort of help

983
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:33,280
Speaker 2: us go through our lives.

984
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 1: Yeah what, Okay, let's say that being a ghost is

985
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 1: not a bad thing, and you were to haunt a place,

986
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 1: where would you haunt?

987
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:49,279
Speaker 2: See? I'm petty, so like if I were to i'm

988
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 2: a ghost, I would haunt all of the motherfuckers that

989
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 2: pissed me off growing up. Okay, you first, I'd make

990
00:54:56,120 --> 00:55:00,120
Speaker 2: the rounds, like hitting everyone that I need to it,

991
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:04,800
Speaker 2: you know, and then I'd probably just like keep it

992
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 2: low key. But I have like a solid year's worth

993
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 2: of hauntings in my first year as a ghost that

994
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:16,319
Speaker 2: I need to do before you know what I'm saying,

995
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 2: before going into like ghost retirement.

996
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that is what happens.

997
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, you need to like do you need to like

998
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 2: finish your work and then like and then it's just

999
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:29,239
Speaker 2: easy street. Yeah, then it's chilling. Then I'd probably want

1000
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:31,359
Speaker 2: to like fucking haunt I don't know, like the Eden

1001
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 2: Rock and Saint Bart's like I don't know if I

1002
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 2: could choose any place to live, like a luxurious vacation destination, right,

1003
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 2: I could just be in the sun and splash around

1004
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:44,439
Speaker 2: and also like make people have a weird time.

1005
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, would you mess with people like on an everyday basis?

1006
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, not.

1007
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 2: Every day, but I'm sure that, like it'd be fun to.

1008
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 1: Just like fuck with would be fun? EVPs, yeah hard

1009
00:55:59,320 --> 00:55:59,840
Speaker 1: or just like.

1010
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:01,959
Speaker 2: Wear the Massoni bathing suit.

1011
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:05,279
Speaker 1: You want to wear that?

1012
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, put on the caf ten that would be me.

1013
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:11,880
Speaker 2: Get the my tie, avoid the coconut shrimp.

1014
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:18,400
Speaker 1: Well that was Greta, And wow, I love that episode.

1015
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 1: I love that we got into you know, sentimental family

1016
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 1: experiences and the spooky. What a perfect app Thank you, Greta.

1017
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be in her podcast soon too, which is

1018
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 1: called The Worst So listen to it, and she's just wonderful.

1019
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 1: I think so highly of her. And also she has

1020
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 1: a really good show, a live stand up show that's

1021
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 1: every Tuesday called The Blair and Greta Show that she

1022
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 1: hosts with Blair Sak And I've done it before. It's

1023
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,439
Speaker 1: really fun. Maybe I'll you'll if you ever go, I'll

1024
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 1: be there. So guys, speaking of shows, you can see me.

1025
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 1: I am going to be doing my comedy game show

1026
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 1: though once over on the thirteenth, which is this Saturday

1027
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 1: at nine pm at the world famous Hollywood Improv and

1028
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 1: it's me and Sam Pancake and we always have an

1029
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 1: incredible lineup of stand up comedians and let's see you

1030
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 1: where out am I. I have to renew my passport,

1031
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 1: but that is not something that you can be there for.

1032
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm doing that week. I'm sure

1033
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 1: good stuff. Check out my Instagram for all those dates.

1034
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 1: I am at Ra's Dress Faless on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook,

1035
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 1: and please follow the Facebook page, you know, become a

1036
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 1: group member in the Facebook group which is called Ghosted

1037
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 1: by Ra's Dress Faless, and that's where you can tell

1038
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 1: me your ghost stories. And I do have a guest

1039
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 1: coming up soon when we're going to read those ghost

1040
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 1: stories together, so keep them coming, Hannie. You can also

1041
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 1: leave it in your five star review on Apple Podcasts,

1042
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 1: and please keep telling your friends about the show. We

1043
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 1: keep growing and I love it. Yeah, I think that's

1044
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 1: all the stuff. I think that's everything. So just know

1045
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:16,439
Speaker 1: that I love you, all of you, both living and dead.

1046
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 1: But if I didn't ask you to haunt me. Don't

1047
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:20,919
Speaker 1: haunt me. Came back

1048
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 2: Starts a podcast network.