WEBVTT - 072923 Trump Voters think Racism against Whites is a Bigger Problem than Racism against Blacks (Part 2) 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:05.720 And now watching my mic back like that. 0:00:08.000 --> 0:00:13.880 Strike from headquarters behind in the if. 0:00:13.760 --> 0:00:15.840 You just turn in City Cipher, I'm your host, Ramses, 0:00:15.920 --> 0:00:18.599 John he is Ramseys, John, I am h Ward. You 0:00:18.720 --> 0:00:22.560 are still, I hope listening to civic Siety, and. 0:00:22.520 --> 0:00:24.960 We appreciate that we've got more to cover, a lot 0:00:25.000 --> 0:00:26.840 to sticking around for. We are going to be talking 0:00:26.880 --> 0:00:34.840 about an interesting pole that showed the Trump voters say 0:00:35.120 --> 0:00:38.800 racism against white people, white Americans is a bigger problem 0:00:38.880 --> 0:00:43.320 than racism against Black Americans, and we're gonna have to 0:00:43.360 --> 0:00:46.480 dissect that. There's some numbers, some massive data, so stick 0:00:46.479 --> 0:00:48.800 with us, but definitely something we have to talk about. 0:00:49.120 --> 0:00:54.360 We're also gonna spend a little time discussing a very 0:00:54.520 --> 0:01:00.280 very special woman, Freddie Washington. She's an actress, was long 0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:04.600 passed away, but she's one of the early black actresses 0:01:04.600 --> 0:01:07.280 and we're going to kind of detail her path in 0:01:07.560 --> 0:01:10.560 the film industry. But first and foremost, we are going 0:01:10.600 --> 0:01:14.480 to discuss b A b A becoming a better ally Abye. 0:01:15.680 --> 0:01:18.600 And we do have a little bit of audio video 0:01:18.720 --> 0:01:20.240 for you because this one is kind of cool. But 0:01:20.280 --> 0:01:23.720 I'll read and by the way, Today's Bye Bye sponsored 0:01:23.720 --> 0:01:26.120 by Unknown Union the fashion house situated at the intersection 0:01:26.160 --> 0:01:29.000 of meaning, innovation, and culture. For more info, check Unknown 0:01:29.080 --> 0:01:31.120 Union dot com. All right, what you're about to hear 0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:35.280 is Jesse Water's mother. She's a Democrat who called into 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:38.720 his first show in Tucker Carlson's time slot on Fox 0:01:38.760 --> 0:01:41.200 News and tried to set him up with some guidance 0:01:41.520 --> 0:01:46.200 live on the air. Let's play the video. We have 0:01:46.240 --> 0:01:49.920 a very special guest on the line, a Democrat. 0:01:50.240 --> 0:01:53.400 My mom, Mom, Hello. 0:01:53.320 --> 0:01:55.120 Are you pullo there? 0:01:55.200 --> 0:01:55.440 Mom? 0:01:56.440 --> 0:01:59.280 How have you enjoyed the show so far? 0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:02.840 I have enjoyed the show. I want to say congratulation, 0:02:03.120 --> 0:02:06.600 Tunny Bunn. We are so proud of you and your accomplishments, 0:02:06.960 --> 0:02:10.000 and you've worked so hard. Now let's aim to have 0:02:10.120 --> 0:02:14.200 you keep your job and so that ends. I do 0:02:14.280 --> 0:02:20.519 have some suggestions. Do not tumble into any conspiracy rabbit holes. 0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:23.160 We do not want to lose you, and we want 0:02:23.240 --> 0:02:29.040 no lawsuits. Okay, In keeping I have a list here. 0:02:29.280 --> 0:02:34.440 In keeping with the hippocratic oath, do no harm. We 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:39.120 need you to be kind and respectful. You yourself mentioned 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:43.320 that humble is a stretch, so I guess that use 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:48.760 your voice responsibly to promote conversations and that maintains a 0:02:48.919 --> 0:02:53.840 narrative thread. There really has been enough Biden bashing, and 0:02:53.919 --> 0:02:59.040 the laptop is old collapsed. You could suggest that your 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:03.440 people take less interest, for example, in other people's bodies 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:05.080 and talk about that. 0:03:05.919 --> 0:03:15.440 All right. So that was masterful mother's voice and words, 0:03:15.800 --> 0:03:19.560 and hopefully her son does better than Tuckle Carlson. Tucker 0:03:19.600 --> 0:03:23.080 Carlson did in that time slide really driving a wedge 0:03:23.080 --> 0:03:26.680 in between all of us in this country. Moving on, 0:03:28.120 --> 0:03:34.399 let's talk about this poll, all right. You know what's coming, 0:03:34.440 --> 0:03:36.000 So I'm gonna read the headline and we'll get to it. 0:03:36.160 --> 0:03:40.560 Yahoo News is where this is coming from. The headline 0:03:40.560 --> 0:03:43.320 reads poll Trump voters say racism against white Americans is 0:03:43.320 --> 0:03:46.720 a bigger problem than racism against Black Americans. The polling 0:03:46.800 --> 0:03:50.120 follows the dismissal of a lawsuit put forth by the 0:03:50.160 --> 0:03:53.640 survivors of the Tulsa race massacre, which many saw as 0:03:53.680 --> 0:03:59.480 a potential blueprint for reparation efforts. As public support for 0:03:59.520 --> 0:04:03.840 reparation for African Americans remain stubbornly low, a New York 0:04:03.920 --> 0:04:08.000 News Slash YUGA poll reveals one major roadblock. Donald Trump 0:04:08.120 --> 0:04:11.600 voters believe that racism against white Americans has become a 0:04:11.640 --> 0:04:14.720 bigger problem than racism against black Americans. I'm want to 0:04:14.760 --> 0:04:16.120 read a little bit of these numbers just so we 0:04:16.120 --> 0:04:19.720 can get started. The survey of six hundred and thirty 0:04:19.720 --> 0:04:23.760 eight US adults, which was conducted from July thirteen through seventeen, 0:04:23.800 --> 0:04:26.680 shows that among twenty twenty Trump voters, sixty two percent 0:04:26.760 --> 0:04:30.359 say that racism against Black Americans is a problem today, 0:04:30.760 --> 0:04:34.200 while seventy three percent say that racism against white Americans 0:04:34.240 --> 0:04:38.280 is a problem. All right, there's more, but we got 0:04:38.279 --> 0:04:41.120 to take a pregnant pause right here. Let's break this 0:04:41.200 --> 0:04:54.120 down now. I need to be fair and I need 0:04:54.160 --> 0:05:09.719 to unfortunately approach this as though it may have I 0:05:09.760 --> 0:05:12.359 can't even say it. It's hard to say it. 0:05:12.480 --> 0:05:14.279 In case you were going to say, you have to 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:16.240 approach it like it may have some merit. Let me 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:20.360 do you one better approach it as if you were 0:05:20.400 --> 0:05:22.520 completely ignorant to either side. 0:05:22.279 --> 0:05:22.919 Of the argus. 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:25.000 That's what I'm trying to say. That is a much 0:05:25.040 --> 0:05:27.840 better that's thank you, Q. That was to be as 0:05:27.880 --> 0:05:31.080 intelligent as you are and pretend that it has some merit, 0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:34.640 because I can't say that it's like, oh god, okay, 0:05:35.360 --> 0:05:37.960 and yes, that was me live reading Ramses's mind. 0:05:37.960 --> 0:05:40.080 I don't know if that was perfect excellent. 0:05:40.080 --> 0:05:41.640 I just want you all to see you know what 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:43.000 I'm saying. But it's because of y'all. 0:05:45.120 --> 0:05:48.920 All right, So if I don't know any better and 0:05:50.680 --> 0:05:53.960 I'm reading this, then I might say, oh no, what 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:56.880 is the source of this problem? This is a new phenomenon. 0:05:59.000 --> 0:06:01.400 Where is this coming from? How do we fix it, 0:06:01.400 --> 0:06:04.320 how do we address it, etc. Right, you know, not 0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:08.440 strictly speaking of scientific method, but somewhat scientific in nature. 0:06:08.640 --> 0:06:11.720 Let's identify the root cause and determine what we can 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:16.839 do about it. Okay, so let's start there. Now. If 0:06:16.880 --> 0:06:24.640 I have access to a decent amount of knowledge political, interpersonal, social, 0:06:25.120 --> 0:06:29.200 et cetera. Knowledge as a citizen in this country, what 0:06:29.279 --> 0:06:34.960 I would deduce is that white people, in particular white men, 0:06:37.480 --> 0:06:43.640 feel like they are under attack because a lot of 0:06:43.680 --> 0:06:51.160 the things that white men would typically do and no 0:06:51.200 --> 0:06:55.559 one would be deny, are now under attack. We learned 0:06:55.560 --> 0:06:58.160 this during the Me Too movement, when a lot of 0:06:58.839 --> 0:07:03.760 executives and heroes and this white and otherwise had to 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:07.080 come to terms with the fact that our sisters were 0:07:07.160 --> 0:07:17.240 redefining what they would accept in a professional environment. And 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:19.840 we all had to listen to that, and we all 0:07:19.880 --> 0:07:22.080 had to learn from that, and not even just men, 0:07:22.120 --> 0:07:25.400 women had to learn that too. We all had to learn. 0:07:26.400 --> 0:07:31.400 But in my estimation, the biggest pushback came from people 0:07:31.440 --> 0:07:36.040 who were thoroughly accustomed to moving and maneuvering in a 0:07:36.080 --> 0:07:44.480 space like that, unencumbered by external influence, regulations, public scrutiny, 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:52.520 et cetera. So there's one way the fact that there 0:07:52.640 --> 0:08:04.640 are have been, at least historically offsets introduced into society 0:08:05.440 --> 0:08:11.240 to bring about some sort of balance to outcomes in 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:17.800 hiring practices, in educational opportunities, et cetera, to make sure 0:08:17.840 --> 0:08:21.840 that we have enough women because women were the largest 0:08:22.120 --> 0:08:27.640 beneficiaries of affirmative action, and we have enough people from 0:08:27.680 --> 0:08:28.840 all races. 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:35.640 Women. Women being the largest benefactor of affirmative action put 0:08:35.679 --> 0:08:38.120 a pin in that for me, please gotcha. 0:08:39.800 --> 0:08:46.240 But white men felt like it came at their expense. 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:50.880 There was a sense of entitlement there. You're taking it 0:08:51.280 --> 0:08:55.720 from me specifically, or my type of person and giving 0:08:55.760 --> 0:09:02.960 it to whoever else. Right, it shows kind of how 0:09:03.160 --> 0:09:11.680 the thinking maybe for a white man who is straight, healthy, Christian, 0:09:14.480 --> 0:09:23.080 and American, Right, there's an assumption that your path is 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:24.960 going to look a certain way and it will be 0:09:25.040 --> 0:09:32.319 unencumbered by those type of setbacks and roadblocks. Now, if 0:09:32.360 --> 0:09:35.600 you felt that way in the past and you're reconciling 0:09:35.679 --> 0:09:37.920 all of these movements black lives matter, you know, the 0:09:37.960 --> 0:09:39.880 police never bother me. If you just do what the 0:09:39.880 --> 0:09:43.480 police say, then they won't bother you. You know. Not 0:09:43.559 --> 0:09:45.600 all men are like that, you know. And then they 0:09:45.600 --> 0:09:48.480 don't seek to change the culture themselves. They're just like, well, listen, 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:50.560 that's not my problem, you know the whole it's not 0:09:50.640 --> 0:09:55.040 my problem sort of the thing, right, And then when 0:09:55.040 --> 0:09:57.920 they look at when the solutions are coming about, hey hey, hey, 0:09:57.960 --> 0:10:02.760 those solutions might affect me, then they start to develop 0:10:02.920 --> 0:10:06.760 an alternative narrative which people like Tucker Carlson can feed 0:10:06.800 --> 0:10:11.560 into for profit, that suggests that they are now being 0:10:11.600 --> 0:10:18.800 discriminated against, when the truth is we've probably pushed a 0:10:19.559 --> 0:10:29.160 modicum of distance further toward a fairer society. But the 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:33.480 backlash has manifested in poll numbers like these, which suggests 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:39.880 that again, these Trump voters feel like discrimination and racism 0:10:39.920 --> 0:10:43.680 against white people is a bigger problem than it ever 0:10:43.720 --> 0:10:46.559 has been, an indeed, a bigger problem than the discrimination 0:10:46.559 --> 0:10:51.400 against black people. So if I'm looking at this as 0:10:51.440 --> 0:10:56.400 objectively as I possibly can, there is the shred of 0:11:00.840 --> 0:11:03.720 I gotta be careful how I say this. That is 0:11:03.760 --> 0:11:09.080 as much it's hard to dignify a statement like this, 0:11:09.640 --> 0:11:11.320 It's very hard to do it, but I have to 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:18.160 because we are professionals, and you know, the version of 0:11:18.200 --> 0:11:20.640 me that goes home at night and lives at home 0:11:20.679 --> 0:11:23.120 and I realizes that this is nonsense. I don't mind 0:11:23.120 --> 0:11:25.200 saying that on the air, but the version of me 0:11:25.240 --> 0:11:27.080 that is here has to be willing to have a 0:11:27.120 --> 0:11:30.000 conversation and articulate his viewpoints. 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:35.080 Issue with said conversations, however, is at some point in 0:11:35.120 --> 0:11:39.400 every conversation both parties have to agree on what facts are, yeah, 0:11:39.440 --> 0:11:41.480 and then if you can't, then there's no point in. 0:11:41.480 --> 0:11:47.560 Having the conversation. Well, what we do here, oftentimes for 0:11:47.640 --> 0:11:52.640 the benefit of all of you, our listeners, is we 0:11:52.720 --> 0:11:57.720 try to have conversations and assume what the other side 0:11:57.920 --> 0:12:03.840 is feeling, thinking, saying, and the source of their issue 0:12:03.920 --> 0:12:08.760 major malfunction, gripe, you know whatever. And we are not 0:12:09.440 --> 0:12:12.080 anything other than what we are. We are two black men, 0:12:12.880 --> 0:12:15.640 we are in our early forties, We started this show 0:12:15.640 --> 0:12:19.400 in our late thirties. We grew up in you know, 0:12:19.600 --> 0:12:23.920 he was from Detroit. I'm from Compton, California, and we 0:12:24.040 --> 0:12:27.360 both lived many years in Phoenix, Arizona, which is a 0:12:28.520 --> 0:12:31.079 very red state that happened to get their act together 0:12:31.120 --> 0:12:34.080 in the past election, but it's still very red. All 0:12:34.120 --> 0:12:40.160 the powers concentrated in the deeply read, deeply conservative facets 0:12:40.160 --> 0:12:42.040 of society out here, and so this is something that 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:46.800 we deal with. So we have a pretty fair to 0:12:47.400 --> 0:12:50.480 form experience of what black life in America is. We 0:12:50.520 --> 0:12:53.240 do not profess to be white men or know what 0:12:53.280 --> 0:12:55.520 life is like for them, but we do talk with 0:12:55.720 --> 0:13:00.439 white men. We just don't have back and forth. We 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:03.040 don't tongue wrestle with anybody in this space. We do 0:13:03.120 --> 0:13:07.240 our best to broadcast the balance. If you need all 0:13:07.240 --> 0:13:09.840 that nonsense, there's plenty of channels that will give it 0:13:09.880 --> 0:13:14.840 to you. We learned that in twenty twenty. But where 0:13:14.840 --> 0:13:17.760 we are now is again right here, I'm going to 0:13:17.800 --> 0:13:20.040 read a little bit more, just because we still have 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:24.720 a little bit more to flesh out. Okay, ask how 0:13:24.800 --> 0:13:28.600 much of a problem racism currently is Just nineteen percent 0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:31.920 of Trump voters describe racism against Black Americans as a 0:13:31.920 --> 0:13:36.840 big problem twice as many say racism against white Americans 0:13:36.920 --> 0:13:41.800 is a big problem. So what you're having here is 0:13:41.800 --> 0:13:45.199 is like a paradigm shift, a mental paradigm shift for 0:13:45.679 --> 0:13:48.440 these Trump voters. And again, this isn't everybody, this is 0:13:48.559 --> 0:13:52.920 just Trump voters. But for them to say, or nineteen 0:13:52.960 --> 0:13:56.880 percent of them to say racism against Black Americans is 0:13:56.920 --> 0:14:00.520 a big problem, to me, that suggests that there's eighty 0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:05.760 one percent that don't feel that way. Okay, that's it's 0:14:05.800 --> 0:14:08.800 a huge number. Eighty one percent don't feel like racism 0:14:08.800 --> 0:14:12.839 against black Americans is a big problem, But thirty seven 0:14:12.880 --> 0:14:16.079 percent saying racism against white Americans is a big problem. 0:14:17.240 --> 0:14:20.600 That to me suggests that something we've talked about on 0:14:20.640 --> 0:14:25.720 the show. The media has managed to do the bidding 0:14:26.520 --> 0:14:33.760 of our political and corporate overlords, which, whilst lining their 0:14:33.800 --> 0:14:42.000 pockets using the fabric of the American dream, promised to 0:14:42.440 --> 0:14:51.200 what is very often these straight Christian, white, healthy males 0:14:51.240 --> 0:14:59.960 and stealing the opportunities to gain wealth and hoarding it 0:15:00.120 --> 0:15:03.840 for themselves, and on and on again, using the media 0:15:04.560 --> 0:15:08.880 to shift the narrative away from corporate greed to hey, 0:15:08.880 --> 0:15:11.200 you know, it's the black people. You know, it's them 0:15:11.840 --> 0:15:15.520 Mexican pekers, others, excuse me, others. It could be Jewish, 0:15:15.640 --> 0:15:19.640 it could be whoever. Anybody that's not us is taking 0:15:19.680 --> 0:15:23.440 your opportunities from you. Right, and mind that as you 0:15:23.520 --> 0:15:28.160 struggle to pay your mortgage. Last month, I got record profits. 0:15:28.280 --> 0:15:32.440 I not only did my company do record profits, but 0:15:32.480 --> 0:15:37.320 I also awarded myself a very healthy bonus. Ignore that completely. 0:15:37.960 --> 0:15:41.040 Your neighbor who lives next door to you, is really 0:15:41.040 --> 0:15:44.520 the reason why things have been so difficult for me. 0:15:45.280 --> 0:15:48.480 Listen, and this is the reason why we can't get 0:15:49.640 --> 0:15:54.000 these guns and these mass shootings to stop. There's so 0:15:54.120 --> 0:15:56.320 much power, there's so much money in politics. I'm sure 0:15:56.320 --> 0:15:57.760 you know that this is kind of the same old song. 0:15:57.760 --> 0:16:00.280 It's always been long before we're born, and I hope 0:16:00.320 --> 0:16:02.360 it won't be this way after we're gone. But it 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:05.640 is certainly the truth now. But the fact is is 0:16:05.680 --> 0:16:09.920 that how about this. Jeff Bezos owns the Washington Post, right, 0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:14.080 we know this, and and and he's not the only one. 0:16:14.080 --> 0:16:16.280 There's there's you know, there's a lot of influence there. 0:16:17.840 --> 0:16:20.400 Rupert Murdock owns Fox News, you know, and these people 0:16:20.400 --> 0:16:25.000 are invested in more than just one thing. You can't 0:16:25.000 --> 0:16:26.800 be invested in just one thing and be a billionaire. Well, 0:16:26.800 --> 0:16:28.960 I guess you can, but most folks are not. They're 0:16:29.240 --> 0:16:32.680 very much diversified and they have a lot of interests. 0:16:33.120 --> 0:16:35.200 And in order to have that sort of runaway well, 0:16:35.280 --> 0:16:38.440 they also need political influence. You not only need an 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:42.280 excellent business strategy, but you need political influence to pave 0:16:42.320 --> 0:16:47.360 the way for unfettered capitalism in your in your specific instance, 0:16:48.040 --> 0:16:52.360 and effectively, what you end up doing is robbing the 0:16:52.400 --> 0:16:56.760 middle class of America for that money and stomping on 0:16:56.880 --> 0:16:59.920 four people. Right. And trust me when I say there's 0:16:59.920 --> 0:17:03.080 a lot of poor white people in this country, and 0:17:03.120 --> 0:17:06.480 a lot of them are women. And it ain't that 0:17:06.480 --> 0:17:07.679 many black people in them trailers. 0:17:07.720 --> 0:17:10.600 You know, there's a lot of poor white Republicans. Oh, 0:17:10.640 --> 0:17:15.800 we that help uphold this uphold this system that continues 0:17:15.840 --> 0:17:16.840 to oppress them. 0:17:16.960 --> 0:17:20.680 So watch this, I'm want to read it again. Ask 0:17:20.720 --> 0:17:23.639 how much of a problem racism it currently is? Just 0:17:23.720 --> 0:17:27.080 nineteen percent of Trump voters describe racism against black Americans 0:17:27.200 --> 0:17:29.480 is a big problem, twice as many say racism against 0:17:29.480 --> 0:17:34.520 white people is a big problem. The media has successfully 0:17:35.359 --> 0:17:41.480 sold a narrative it's a hook line and sinker. Racism 0:17:41.520 --> 0:17:44.720 against me is a big problem, and what do you 0:17:44.760 --> 0:17:46.640 think that means? That's why I can't do this. That's 0:17:46.640 --> 0:17:49.280 why I can't do that. Nobody likes white people and 0:17:49.760 --> 0:17:53.399 all the opportunities are going to China. You're going and 0:17:53.440 --> 0:17:56.960 the Mexicans are coming across the border stealing our cherry 0:17:56.960 --> 0:18:00.199 picking jobs. And you know, you get it. And I 0:18:00.200 --> 0:18:03.240 don't mean to make a caricature out of this imaginary individual. 0:18:03.560 --> 0:18:05.840 You heard my voice just now. I realize that there 0:18:05.840 --> 0:18:09.280 are some people behind this, and there are some smart 0:18:09.280 --> 0:18:11.520 people who might be able to dress this up and 0:18:11.520 --> 0:18:13.360 make it sound a little bit more intellectual. 0:18:13.440 --> 0:18:16.200 Well it's not, Mike. We know that they can. They've 0:18:16.240 --> 0:18:19.959 convinced tens of millions of people. We don't think all 0:18:20.000 --> 0:18:22.760 of those people aren't dumb. And that's why I was saying, 0:18:22.800 --> 0:18:25.400 it's a human condition. It is a human People are 0:18:25.440 --> 0:18:29.560 susceptible to these things. And what I try to do 0:18:29.600 --> 0:18:31.200 and Q tries to do here on the show is 0:18:31.320 --> 0:18:33.399 remember that these are brothers and our sisters. They are 0:18:33.440 --> 0:18:34.439 just lost in the sauce. 0:18:34.760 --> 0:18:40.040 But the impact of how they feel, how they move 0:18:40.119 --> 0:18:44.359 throughout society and critically. How they vote is it affects 0:18:44.760 --> 0:18:47.320 the lives of us, our children, people that look like us, 0:18:47.359 --> 0:18:49.600 people that look adjacent to us, et cetera. 0:18:49.800 --> 0:18:51.960 You know, that's the thing that scares me the most 0:18:52.040 --> 0:18:56.959 Ramses is that they are politically engaged, very very political, 0:18:57.359 --> 0:19:01.000 and they somehow, even with all that they watch happen 0:19:01.040 --> 0:19:02.920 in front of them, do not feel that the political 0:19:02.960 --> 0:19:06.719 system has failed them, so they remain engaged. So many 0:19:07.160 --> 0:19:13.040 more people, I think acknowledge that the propaganda exist and 0:19:13.080 --> 0:19:15.440 that things are not the way that they are framed 0:19:16.000 --> 0:19:20.439 when delivered to us, but they are so disenfranchised and 0:19:22.240 --> 0:19:26.160 repeatedly let down by the political system that they've kind 0:19:26.160 --> 0:19:29.800 of just checked out. They don't participate. So these people 0:19:29.840 --> 0:19:35.040 who are not just intelligent, but more that care more 0:19:35.080 --> 0:19:40.240 about everyone than just themselves, are also so turned off 0:19:40.840 --> 0:19:45.240 by what has become of our political infrastructure that they 0:19:45.320 --> 0:19:47.560 just throw up their hands and don't participate anymore. They're 0:19:47.560 --> 0:19:49.320 tired of being lied to, they're tired of being taken 0:19:49.359 --> 0:19:51.440 advantage of, they're tired of not getting the results that 0:19:51.480 --> 0:19:54.760 are promised during these campaign trails, and they just check out. 0:19:54.880 --> 0:19:57.240 And that's what scares me the most, because the other side, 0:19:57.240 --> 0:19:58.600 they don't check out, not at all. 0:19:58.680 --> 0:19:59.720 They are they. 0:19:59.680 --> 0:20:03.479 Ready right now, They're organizing right now. They are prepared 0:20:03.520 --> 0:20:04.919 to go to the to the polls, and they are 0:20:04.960 --> 0:20:08.760 prepared to go and vote right now. Up keep even 0:20:08.800 --> 0:20:12.119 the systems that oppress them, even the systems that are 0:20:12.119 --> 0:20:14.520 in the direct conflict of their own personal best interest 0:20:14.920 --> 0:20:20.200 and those that they care about. They passionately, fervently and 0:20:21.200 --> 0:20:24.960 perpetually uphold these systems at every opportunity. 0:20:26.240 --> 0:20:29.280 Well, you know, there's a thing that I think helps 0:20:29.359 --> 0:20:31.080 make your point that I came across the other day. 0:20:31.080 --> 0:20:33.399 It was like a probably a post I saw on 0:20:34.280 --> 0:20:39.680 Tumbler or something like that, and it said I'm drawing 0:20:39.680 --> 0:20:43.320 from memory here. So effectually, what it communicated was that 0:20:45.840 --> 0:20:54.400 these Trump voters, certainly like the deeply conservative far right, 0:20:55.480 --> 0:21:01.879 the Trump Zealot movie, those individuals they have to believe 0:21:01.880 --> 0:21:05.840 in conspiracy theories because there's no other way to justify 0:21:06.240 --> 0:21:09.000 how they keep voting the same way and the reality 0:21:09.040 --> 0:21:13.119 doesn't change, so they have they need conspiracy theories to 0:21:14.440 --> 0:21:16.520 help them feel better. There's got to be something else 0:21:16.560 --> 0:21:20.080 going on. QAnon. John F. Kennedy Junior is coming back 0:21:20.080 --> 0:21:22.320 to life or whatever it is. That they believe, you know, 0:21:23.080 --> 0:21:25.359 just like really bizarre stuff. You know, Democrats are drinking 0:21:25.400 --> 0:21:27.760 baby blood and pizza parlors. You remember that thing was 0:21:27.800 --> 0:21:28.879 on there's lizard people. 0:21:29.040 --> 0:21:31.760 Unfortunately, I do because people that I know of sound 0:21:31.800 --> 0:21:36.240 mine even brought into that the lizard people. Those conversations 0:21:36.320 --> 0:21:38.080 out loud, and I'm looking like, duh. 0:21:38.560 --> 0:21:42.800 It's it's it's interesting, and that's me putting in Clinton 0:21:42.840 --> 0:21:47.560 did what Wow? Okay, let me get back to it 0:21:47.600 --> 0:21:51.440 all right. So Trump voters and self identified Republicans overlapping 0:21:51.640 --> 0:21:55.920 but not identical cohorts are the only demographic groups identified 0:21:56.080 --> 0:21:58.840 by Yahunus and Yuga who are more likely to say 0:21:58.960 --> 0:22:01.679 that racism against white Americans is a problem than to 0:22:01.720 --> 0:22:05.240 say the same about racism against Black Americans. Majority fifty 0:22:05.280 --> 0:22:07.639 one percent of white Americans, for instance, think racism against 0:22:07.760 --> 0:22:10.720 people who look like them is a problem, but overall, 0:22:10.840 --> 0:22:15.520 far more white Americans seventy two say racism against black 0:22:15.560 --> 0:22:16.800 Americans is a problem. 0:22:16.880 --> 0:22:19.080 I think I said to you before, Rams, I think 0:22:19.119 --> 0:22:22.040 a lot of people say and think things like that 0:22:22.119 --> 0:22:24.960 out loud as a reflection of how they do and 0:22:25.000 --> 0:22:28.600 don't feel about themselves. To acknowledge that racism against black 0:22:28.640 --> 0:22:30.560 people is a problem in a system where you're doing 0:22:30.600 --> 0:22:34.760 nothing to actively combat it would be pointing a lens 0:22:34.760 --> 0:22:37.800 at yourself as a co conspirator to that. So no, 0:22:37.880 --> 0:22:40.439 that's not a problem. Yeah, because I don't want to 0:22:40.520 --> 0:22:42.520 self accuse myself of. 0:22:42.520 --> 0:22:48.760 Upholding a system that is subjugating another group of people. 0:22:48.840 --> 0:22:51.040 All right, let me read some more politics. In other words, 0:22:51.119 --> 0:22:53.439 is the dividing line here, and the political dynamics go 0:22:53.840 --> 0:22:56.640 a long way toward explaining why reparations for black Americans 0:22:56.680 --> 0:23:00.760 continue to be so unpopular in the US. If you've 0:23:00.760 --> 0:23:04.560 ever had that conversation, you know, we've had it a 0:23:04.560 --> 0:23:07.200 couple of times. It is tough, all right. The new 0:23:07.320 --> 0:23:11.399 Yahoo News UGU pull follows the dismissal earlier this month 0:23:11.680 --> 0:23:14.800 the lawsuit put forth by the three remaining survivors of 0:23:14.840 --> 0:23:17.879 the nineteen twenty one Tulsa race massacre seeking reparations for 0:23:17.960 --> 0:23:21.119 ongoing harm caused by the racist rampage that destroyed their 0:23:21.160 --> 0:23:24.720 once thriving, majority black community a century ago. The trio 0:23:24.760 --> 0:23:28.760 of survivors had sued under Oklahoma's public nuisance law, claiming 0:23:29.160 --> 0:23:31.840 that the ripple effects of the massacre continue to affect 0:23:31.840 --> 0:23:34.920 the Greenwood community today. I got to leave it right there. 0:23:34.920 --> 0:23:38.320 But that article goes on to say a little bit more. 0:23:38.320 --> 0:23:41.240 And obviously, if you don't know about the Tulsa race massacre, 0:23:42.520 --> 0:23:46.760 please check it out and then you'll see why. It 0:23:46.880 --> 0:23:48.800 just sucks for something like this to happen and it 0:23:49.000 --> 0:23:54.040 just go unanswered, you know, And you can see where 0:23:54.040 --> 0:23:57.240 the benefit of that went, and you can see where 0:23:57.240 --> 0:24:00.720 the negative consequences of it went. You know, you can 0:24:00.720 --> 0:24:05.359 bridge the gap. But then there's political opposition because you know, 0:24:05.520 --> 0:24:08.960 whatever statue of limited whatever it is that people try 0:24:09.000 --> 0:24:11.919 to throw in there, but wrong is wrong. All right, 0:24:12.000 --> 0:24:15.320 it's time for the Way Black History Fact. Today's Way 0:24:15.359 --> 0:24:17.920 Black History Fact is sponsored by Underground Beach Club From 0:24:17.920 --> 0:24:20.199 the Streets to the Beach, the finest in Beachware. Visit 0:24:20.320 --> 0:24:24.520 Underground Beach Club dot com. All right. She was one 0:24:24.760 --> 0:24:28.080 of the first light skinned African American actresses to break 0:24:28.080 --> 0:24:31.160 into Hollywood at a time when the movie industry's rules 0:24:31.280 --> 0:24:34.439 and sensitivities about race were at their most stringent. She 0:24:34.480 --> 0:24:37.440 found herself stuck in the groove between perceptions of white 0:24:37.480 --> 0:24:41.359 and black, which eventually cut short a promising career, but 0:24:41.440 --> 0:24:43.560 not before she made her mark in the nineteen thirty 0:24:43.560 --> 0:24:50.320 four classic imitation of life. Freddie Washington all Right. Actress 0:24:50.680 --> 0:24:54.199 Frederica Carolyn Washington was born on December twenty third, nineteen 0:24:54.240 --> 0:24:57.480 oh three, in Savannah, Georgia. Her father, Robert T. Washington, 0:24:57.520 --> 0:25:01.000 was a postal worker, and her mother, Harriet Walker Reward Washington, 0:25:01.119 --> 0:25:04.239 was a dancer. Both parents were of African American and 0:25:04.320 --> 0:25:10.200 European ethnicity. Freddie, born with fair skin, finely textured, wavy hair, 0:25:10.240 --> 0:25:13.400 and green eyes, was the eldest of five siblings. All 0:25:13.440 --> 0:25:15.720 five of us were fair skin with what would be 0:25:15.760 --> 0:25:19.560 considered Caucasian features, recalls her younger sister Isabelle in her 0:25:19.600 --> 0:25:23.960 biography Adam's Bell. The children were raised by the grandmother, 0:25:24.280 --> 0:25:27.600 Ella Brown aka Big Mama. Shout out to big Mama. 0:25:27.720 --> 0:25:29.120 There's a lot of big mamas out there. 0:25:29.240 --> 0:25:30.639 One tough big Mama. 0:25:31.200 --> 0:25:33.560 Freddie's real mother died when she was eleven, and her 0:25:33.600 --> 0:25:36.480 father later remarried, placing her and her sister Isabelle in 0:25:36.520 --> 0:25:40.840 a Catholic convent, Saint Elizabeth in Cornell Heights, Pennsylvania. The 0:25:40.880 --> 0:25:46.040 institution took in African American and Native American orphans. Washington 0:25:46.119 --> 0:25:48.679 left when she was sixteen and moved to Harlem, New 0:25:48.760 --> 0:25:52.639 York City, to live with her grandmother and aunt. She 0:25:52.680 --> 0:25:55.040 got a job as a bookkeeper at an African American 0:25:55.040 --> 0:25:58.440 record company, Black Swan, where her father worked as a packer. 0:25:59.080 --> 0:26:01.320 In nineteen twenty two, she got a part in the 0:26:01.400 --> 0:26:04.679 all Black Broadway musical Shuffle Along as a chorus dancer. 0:26:05.280 --> 0:26:08.160 She toured with the trope for years, working with Josephine 0:26:08.200 --> 0:26:11.840 Baker and Paul Robson. Along the way. She made thirty 0:26:11.840 --> 0:26:14.440