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Speaker 2: A friendly face. I'd say that's a friendly face right there,
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Paul, real quick before we move on, did any
Speaker 3: of you guys have a great yearbook photo?
Speaker 4: My senior year felt good about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, although I had a red blazer on it.
Speaker 2: I don't know why. My mom took me shopping and
Speaker 2: it's a side it's the angle is very dramatic. I
Speaker 2: don't know why I allow this to happen, but it's okay.
Speaker 2: Hair look good, got this red blazer on, and of
Speaker 2: all my pictures, that's probably the best that I had
Speaker 2: yes time.
Speaker 5: Because the schools they hire these people, they think they
Speaker 5: Fellini or something like that. They don't wish they were in.
Speaker 6: Some kind of movie or something, and they're like, this
Speaker 6: is the best they can do is taking like middle
Speaker 6: school or high school pictures.
Speaker 5: They get a little carried away with it over the
Speaker 5: shoulder look or whatever.
Speaker 2: Did fully need take high school pictures?
Speaker 5: I don't know. Hopefully did I think he just went
Speaker 5: right to the big time as far as.
Speaker 2: I know, like Richard Avedon or somebody like that.
Speaker 6: Maybe, Yeah, they take me a little too seriously that
Speaker 6: the people were taking the pictures of that.
Speaker 5: You know, it's just a high school yearbook. Relax.
Speaker 2: How about you, Marvin, how was your high school yearbook?
Speaker 5: You know what, I don't mind it.
Speaker 7: I had a had a tan shirt, a tan tie,
Speaker 7: and I had football pants on that you cannot see.
Speaker 7: My mom got me out of football practice that Marvel.
Speaker 7: You got to take this photo because it was the
Speaker 7: last day, So Marvin, you have to.
Speaker 8: So it looked good.
Speaker 7: The hair looked good, you know, had had the waves,
Speaker 7: had the waves spinning when I had hair.
Speaker 2: What about you, Dylan?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 9: My, my I peaked probably with like my fifth grade
Speaker 9: yearbook photo, but my senior year one they used the
Speaker 9: I didn't like fill out anything, so I think they
Speaker 9: just use one. And it's the one where I have
Speaker 9: like my fist under my chin like the thinker. It's uh,
Speaker 9: it's pretty brutal.
Speaker 2: That would be Rodan, very good, yes, Rodan. Uh, Fritzy
Speaker 2: has a picture like that with your your chin resting.
Speaker 6: On your your real like a really concentrating But my
Speaker 6: picts are all puffy hair, weird things with suspenders of
Speaker 6: a lore shirts, jams shirts.
Speaker 5: Back in the day, and that was a big deal.
Speaker 5: I felt like carpeting on your shirt. I don't know
Speaker 5: what I was doing.
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Speaker 2: Ya had a lot of trades. The difference between buyers
Speaker 2: and sellers just a couple of games. I still go
Speaker 2: back to the Brewers. Look, I know small market. Nobody
Speaker 2: in the AL and NL Central want to spend money,
Speaker 2: although the Cubs do. But you have this team that
Speaker 2: they have the third best odds right now to win
Speaker 2: the World Series. Go out and at least put in
Speaker 2: an effort for Terrek Skubel because it helps you in
Speaker 2: two ways. It keeps him from the Dodgers, and with
Speaker 2: him and Misowski, you can win with those two guys
Speaker 2: as your starters. Certainly in a five game series, but
Speaker 2: a seven game series. So I at what point do
Speaker 2: you say, Okay, we're all in. I go back with
Speaker 2: the Brewers when they traded for CC Sabathia. They used
Speaker 2: him down the stretch. It didn't work out in the playoffs,
Speaker 2: but at least they made an effort there. Yes, I
Speaker 2: know you give up prospects, but at what point do
Speaker 2: you say this is as good as we kind of
Speaker 2: expect to be or want to be, And you're not
Speaker 2: going to be able to go out there and keep
Speaker 2: that picture from that You have to go through the
Speaker 2: Dodgers anyway, So why not go get a guy the
Speaker 2: Dodgers really might need now with Otani not being able
Speaker 2: to pitch, So that one surprised me a little bit.
Speaker 2: The Braves same thing. You got a lot of talent. Now,
Speaker 2: maybe they think this is good enough, but I don't
Speaker 2: think it is. Certainly in the National League. In the
Speaker 2: American League, this is where I'd be going. If I'm
Speaker 2: the Rays. Certainly the Yankees, I'd go all in. The
Speaker 2: American league's wide open. You can get to the World Series.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's not a lot of hurdles in your
Speaker 2: way in the American League. Now, the Yankees they have
Speaker 2: the second best odds. You know, the Red Sox are
Speaker 2: now back in the picture. Who would have thought. But
Speaker 2: if I'm the Rays, maybe I can't keep trek scuoble.
Speaker 2: But what is the goal here? Is the goal to
Speaker 2: make the playoffs? And kind of be threatening. Is that
Speaker 2: to get to the World Series? Like what is the
Speaker 2: goal here? And that's what's lost on me with the
Speaker 2: trade deadline. Go in and roll the dice, and I
Speaker 2: know we'll look back and say, oh my gosh, you
Speaker 2: know three years ago they gave up that prospect. I
Speaker 2: get it, but I would at least want my team
Speaker 2: to go, let's go. I don't want you to be crazy.
Speaker 2: I don't want you to be drunken sailors. I want
Speaker 2: you to be smart about it. Get the right guy
Speaker 2: for your team. And Trek Scuoble is the best pitcher
Speaker 2: in baseball, at least on the short list, and the
Speaker 2: Brewers Missserowski tired down the stretch last year. Now you
Speaker 2: have to give him him almost an innings limit pitch count.
Speaker 2: But you got to be ready to go in the postseason.
Speaker 2: And if you got the third best odds and you're
Speaker 2: not loading up and not keeping Trek Scuble from the Dodgers,
Speaker 2: to me, it's a missed opportunity. The Falcons have signed
Speaker 2: b Jeon Robinson to a new deal. He and Jamier
Speaker 2: Gibbs were holding out or holding in. This is the
Speaker 2: updated running back pay and this just happened about fifteen
Speaker 2: minutes ago. Bjeon Robinson is twenty two point twenty five million.
Speaker 2: With incentives, it'll be twenty five million, So that's number one.
Speaker 2: Number two on the list is Saquon Barkley at twenty
Speaker 2: point six Christian McCaffrey nineteen million, Devon eighth Chan sixteen million.
Speaker 2: So Jamir Gibbs probably is looking at something in the
Speaker 2: twenty three million dollar range. With incentives. For Bijon Robinson
Speaker 2: it could be up to twenty five million. And you
Speaker 2: start to look at the value of these two running backs.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying they've separated themselves because sik One Barkley
Speaker 2: is still wonderful, but Bijon signs three years seventy five million,
Speaker 2: and if you start to look at what his contributions are,
Speaker 2: he might be the best running back in football. If
Speaker 2: I look at what he did last year, he had
Speaker 2: fourteen hundred and seventy eight rushing yards, he averaged five
Speaker 2: point one yards per carry, He had seventy nine catches,
Speaker 2: He had twenty three hundred yards from scrimmage and eleven touchdowns.
Speaker 2: Gibbs twelve hundred yards rushing, averaged five yards per Carrie
Speaker 2: had seventy seven catches for six hundred yards eighteen hundred
Speaker 2: and thirty nine yards from scrimmage with eighteen touchdowns. Extremely
Speaker 2: valuable and both of them are and really the center
Speaker 2: point of their offenses and the running back position starting
Speaker 2: to get paid again CMC. When he got paid, then
Speaker 2: Saquon came in. Now you got Bijon and then you're
Speaker 2: going to have Jamiir Gibbs get paid as well.
Speaker 8: All right, poll.
Speaker 2: Question for the first hour of the program, Dylan, what
Speaker 2: are you thinking about?
Speaker 9: Well, we can start off with one from PAULI. Spending
Speaker 9: a lot on your running back is smart or not smart?
Speaker 7: Okay?
Speaker 2: When the Falcons drafted Bijon Robinson, what did they take
Speaker 2: him eighth? The Lions they took Jamir Gibbs, what was
Speaker 2: he twelve? Okay? Your goal is to get your running
Speaker 2: back another contract. I would think if you're going to
Speaker 2: take somebody up that high, isn't your goal to be
Speaker 2: like I want you to be great and we want
Speaker 2: to bring you back. Now. I'm not big on running
Speaker 2: backs after five years. I just think the wear and
Speaker 2: tear touches, not just running the ball, pass receiving. But
Speaker 2: you get guys, if they know how to protect themselves,
Speaker 2: that's the key. I get you out in space. I
Speaker 2: don't want to run you off the middle. You're gonna
Speaker 2: be able to break off some of these for long touchdowns,
Speaker 2: so you're a home run hitter like Jeremiah Love is
Speaker 2: already getting paid a lot of money for the Arizona Cardinals.
Speaker 2: But what we're asking those running backs to do is
Speaker 2: basically everything. Be a wide receiver, be a running back,
Speaker 2: be a decoy, be able to block. And if I'm now,
Speaker 2: I was in on Saquon Barkley and the Giants taking
Speaker 2: him number two overall because I thought he would be
Speaker 2: the missing piece and help out Eli Manning at the
Speaker 2: end of his career. I was wrong. Saquan was a
Speaker 2: great player, or had the potential to be great. We
Speaker 2: just didn't see it until he went to Philadelphia. Jamiir Gibbs,
Speaker 2: b John Robinson. They're worth that money. And it probably
Speaker 2: probably started with Christian McCaffrey because we thought he was
Speaker 2: done before he went to San Francisco. It was like,
Speaker 2: I don't know how much longer he's going to be
Speaker 2: able to play and how much they used him. Well,
Speaker 2: he's still been banged up, but he's still been great.
Speaker 2: When it comes to Offensive Player of the Year, he's
Speaker 2: usually on the short list there and kind of created
Speaker 2: or recreated the impression of what a running back should be.
Speaker 2: Now I can go back to Ricky Waters or Marshall Falk,
Speaker 2: some of my favorite players, Roger Craig Ladanian, Tomlinson that
Speaker 2: they kind of created this hybrid right in front of us,
Speaker 2: and you know, putting even more pressure on defenses. Now
Speaker 2: you have to account for that guy. Yeah, and then
Speaker 2: if you had to have a great running back, I
Speaker 2: don't know if defense is Yeah.
Speaker 3: And if you look at Bijon Robinson Dan in his
Speaker 3: three years in the NFL, as you said he's had,
Speaker 3: I think he's got two hundred and sixty one to
Speaker 3: one hundred ninety eight catches in the NFL so far
Speaker 3: that make him the third leading receiver from his draft
Speaker 3: class at the running back position. He was first team
Speaker 3: All Pro last year twenty two and ninety eight yards,
Speaker 3: and same thing with Jamir Gibbs three years close to
Speaker 3: two thousand all purpose yards per year.
Speaker 9: Well, I feel like like the McCaffrey's and the Bejons
Speaker 9: of the world, can they command more money because of
Speaker 9: their pass catching out of the backfield.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're a full service running back that you never
Speaker 3: has to leave the field. A guy like remember a
Speaker 3: bunch of years ago, Leonard Fournette was taken high. He
Speaker 3: can't catch one hundred balls. He can't catch eighty balls.
Speaker 3: Very good running back, but probably not the all purpose
Speaker 3: running back of today.
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Speaker 2: Let me start with the headline, Aaron Donald, the possibility
Speaker 2: of him coming back, the general sense that you got
Speaker 2: when you were with the Rams was what.
Speaker 11: I think he's coming back, and I think he will
Speaker 11: play the full season. I would say it's unlikely that
Speaker 11: happens before they leave.
Speaker 4: Royal and Marramount where they're having their training camp.
Speaker 11: I believe they leave there on Friday, and I think
Speaker 11: after that everything's in play when they get back to
Speaker 11: their home facility. And so they've discussed this. You know,
Speaker 11: Sean McVay and Aaron Donald are very very close, and
Speaker 11: they already have the framework of a plan laid out
Speaker 11: for what this is going to look like and how
Speaker 11: they're going to handle it. And I think one thing
Speaker 11: that helps, in a weird roundabout way, is the fact
Speaker 11: that he held out in twenty and seventeen. In twenty eighteen,
Speaker 11: those are Sean mcvay's first two years in LA and
Speaker 11: in both of those years they had to be creative
Speaker 11: and ramping them up and getting getting them ready to
Speaker 11: play the season. And in both those years, Aaron Donald
Speaker 11: was the defensive player of the year and the second
Speaker 11: of those years they went to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4: So they have an.
Speaker 11: Idea of how to do this, and you know, I
Speaker 11: think the other thing that really helps is the depth
Speaker 11: they have at that position, like they don't need to
Speaker 11: play him sixty plays a game. They can use him
Speaker 11: creatively and they like the you know, the Kobe Turners,
Speaker 11: the Braydon Fisks, the Punafords, the Tyler Davis's. This is
Speaker 11: a situation where they can really use them in a
Speaker 11: way that's gonna, I think, put them in position to
Speaker 11: be at his best when it matters most.
Speaker 2: You remember the last time a team was high this
Speaker 2: much pre season, and the team that wasn't the defending
Speaker 2: Super Bowl champ.
Speaker 11: The Rams in two thousand and twenty one, maybe when
Speaker 11: they traded for Stafford.
Speaker 4: It's sort of similar to that.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, I like I remember being on the
Speaker 11: ground floor for the Dream Team Eagles coming out of
Speaker 11: the lockout and what that was like and all the
Speaker 11: high because if you remember, like that year, free agency
Speaker 11: happened at the start of training camp and so when
Speaker 11: they signed Non the awesome Wah to a team that had,
Speaker 11: like Michael Vick was coming off of a fantastic year
Speaker 11: and obviously that went the wrong way, but like there
Speaker 11: was a ton of hype around that team. You see this,
Speaker 11: I mean, I don't. I don't think this is like
Speaker 11: an outsized amount of hype you know, but it isn't
Speaker 11: every year that you see a team in a position
Speaker 11: like this.
Speaker 2: We had v Jon Robinson, he signed his contract. Jamiir
Speaker 2: Gibbs now in the Ondex, what's your philosophy of, you know,
Speaker 2: re signing a first round pick at that position.
Speaker 11: I actually think, Dan, it's gotten to the point where
Speaker 11: running back has been devalued like so much that it's
Speaker 11: becoming a value to sign one. And I remember this
Speaker 11: two years ago, right the offseason in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 11: And if you remember that that year, Saquon Barkley, Derrick
Speaker 11: Henry and Josh Jacobs were all free agents and the Eagles,
Speaker 11: the Ravens, and the Packers signed those three guys. And
Speaker 11: I remember thinking to myself that in the moment when
Speaker 11: that was happening, like, those aren't stupid teams, you know
Speaker 11: what I mean? Like, those aren't teams that are going
Speaker 11: and doing dumb things in March and winning the offseason.
Speaker 11: And you know, the more you talk to people in
Speaker 11: those organizations, you realize, like the way smart teams are
Speaker 11: starting to look at it is, here's a guy I'm
Speaker 11: going to give the ball to fifteen twenty twenty five
Speaker 11: times a game. That's way more than the receivers getting
Speaker 11: the ball. He's contribute to both the run game in
Speaker 11: the past game in a really significant way. And if
Speaker 11: I have like a bad year at the end of
Speaker 11: the contract, like is, if that's the cost, that's almost nothing.
Speaker 11: Saquon Barkley that offseason got like the equivalent of what
Speaker 11: Darnell Mooney got. In no way to think about that
Speaker 11: like that was the comparable contract third receivers are getting.
Speaker 4: We're getting sixteen million dollars.
Speaker 11: A year, and that's you know, like more than those
Speaker 11: guys got that offseason. So I mean it's starting to
Speaker 11: correct itself a little bit, but I mean I'm in
Speaker 11: Chiefs camp right now. That's part of the reason why
Speaker 11: they go and sign Kenneth Walker is relative peanuts when
Speaker 11: you compare to compared to what guys are making at
Speaker 11: other positions. So, you know, I think it went from
Speaker 11: like it's not smart to sign a running back with
Speaker 11: a lot of mileage, you know, in year four, year
Speaker 11: five to a contract at the top of the market,
Speaker 11: to now it's at the top of the market, is
Speaker 11: a fraction of what it is in other positions.
Speaker 4: So what are we even talking about.
Speaker 2: He's Albert Breer, the Monday Morning Quarterback senior NFL reporter.
Speaker 2: He's at the Chiefs today, speaking of which, with Mahomes
Speaker 2: coming back from surgery, you bring in Kenneth Walker, the
Speaker 2: Chiefs offensive philosophy changing because of maybe Mahomes not running
Speaker 2: as much as he normally would.
Speaker 4: Yeah, new coordinator too, you know.
Speaker 11: So, I mean Andy's obviously still running the offense, but
Speaker 11: you do go from Matt Naggie back to Eric the enemy.
Speaker 11: I do think there's gonna be more of a commitment
Speaker 11: to the run game. I think there's gonna be a
Speaker 11: little bit of a shift playing under center a little
Speaker 11: bit more with Kenneth Walker here, And you know, I
Speaker 11: think that that's going to serve a couple of purposes.
Speaker 11: Number One, you know, I think it's going to help
Speaker 11: Mahomes as he comes back from the knee, because there's
Speaker 11: always an adjustment, and he's looked great.
Speaker 4: He hasn't missed anything. He's been out here every day,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 11: But I think it's also going to unlock some things
Speaker 11: in the passing game for them. And so I do
Speaker 11: think that the Chiefs offense is going to look a
Speaker 11: little bit different, And you know, I think you know,
Speaker 11: a guy like Walker can unlock a lot of different
Speaker 11: things for them, and he was such an important part
Speaker 11: of what the Seahawks did, so so yeah, you know.
Speaker 4: I think.
Speaker 11: They are going to have a little bit of a
Speaker 11: different look on offense versus what they've had the last
Speaker 11: couple of years.
Speaker 2: Is this the year justin Herbert back's like maybe a
Speaker 2: top five quarterback.
Speaker 11: There are so many things in place there, Dan, I mean,
Speaker 11: I think, you know, you look at it now, and
Speaker 11: I'm not sure he got enough credit for last year.
Speaker 3: By the way, like.
Speaker 11: They won eleven games despite losing Joe Alt and Rashaun Slater.
Speaker 11: Not only that, they were at one point down to
Speaker 11: like their fifth and six tackles, like and that's the
Speaker 11: foundation of their identity. That's what their investment was was
Speaker 11: in that offensive line. And so I think to be
Speaker 11: able to win eleven games, now you've got all back,
Speaker 11: Now you've got Slater back.
Speaker 4: They expect their.
Speaker 11: Young receivers Lad McConkie, Trey Harris to come along. Omarion Hampton,
Speaker 11: the rookie running back from last year, is back for
Speaker 11: his second year and healthy again. It just feels like
Speaker 11: if they can stay healthy, there's a lot of things
Speaker 11: set up for Justin Herbert to have a really big year,
Speaker 11: and I think a huge part of the equation is
Speaker 11: Mike McDaniel and what he's going to be able to do.
Speaker 11: Mike McDaniels never had a quarterback like this, you know,
Speaker 11: and we've seen creatively what he's been able to do
Speaker 11: over the years. He was obviously, you know, you know,
Speaker 11: part of those San Francisco teams that built around Jimmy
Speaker 11: Garoppolo and they got the most out of Tua and
Speaker 11: went to the playoffs with Tua, you.
Speaker 4: Know, in Miami.
Speaker 11: You know, now you're giving him a guy who you know,
Speaker 11: forces you to defend every play the grass in the
Speaker 11: field and has the mind to manipulate everything in between.
Speaker 4: I know Mike is super excited to work with Justin Herbert.
Speaker 2: I don't want to jump on a hype train, but
Speaker 2: I do love what the Cowboys have on offense, and
Speaker 2: it comes down to just how good they are on defense.
Speaker 2: And I thought, if they come close to the offensive numbers, yeah,
Speaker 2: I just need a top fifteen defense. It feels like
Speaker 2: for this team to be an actual, true contender. What
Speaker 2: did you feel or take away when you visited the Cowboys.
Speaker 11: They view themselves as almost the reverse Texans, if that
Speaker 11: makes sense, you know what I mean, Like, if the
Speaker 11: Texas could just be pretty good on offense, then they'll
Speaker 11: be unbelievable of the team because of their defenses is
Speaker 11: off the charts, and they really think they have a
Speaker 11: chance to have the best offensive football And they have
Speaker 11: to answer the left tackle question.
Speaker 4: But those two receivers are too legitimate number one.
Speaker 11: Guys, you know, like they they feel good about the
Speaker 11: makeup of their team. A young running back they have
Speaker 11: Jaden Blue out of Texas going in the second year
Speaker 11: is going to be a factor. And they look at
Speaker 11: themselves defensively as we can't have a lot of injuries.
Speaker 11: But for Shaan Gary, Donovan Zeraku, Kenny Clark, Quinn Williams,
Speaker 11: they're the way that they see it and that the
Speaker 11: youngs that the young safety they bring in, Caleb Down's
Speaker 11: playing next to a veteran and Jalen Thompson's coming over
Speaker 11: from Arizona.
Speaker 4: If they can just stay healthy with a.
Speaker 11: New defensive coordinator coming in there and Christian Parker's bringing
Speaker 11: Vic Fangio's scheme, They've got a chance to be representative
Speaker 11: on the defensive side of the ball, like a good,
Speaker 11: solid pro defense, and that, like you said, given the
Speaker 11: offense they had, maybe all they need. The other thing
Speaker 11: that's interesting about them the makeup of the team's really
Speaker 11: good coming out of the Micaeh Parsons trade from last year.
Speaker 11: Like a lot of good guys there, and I don't
Speaker 11: think it's a mistake. Kenny Clark, former team captain, Quin
Speaker 11: Williams's former team captain, jale On Thompson former team captain,
Speaker 11: And I.
Speaker 4: Talked to Dak about this. He's not afraid.
Speaker 11: To put into words their aspirations to go and win
Speaker 11: a Super Bowl this year. So it'll be interesting to
Speaker 11: see how the defense comes along. But I think it
Speaker 11: should be good on that side of the ball. You're right,
Speaker 11: they've got a chance.
Speaker 2: Give me the surprise team, good or bad in your opinion.
Speaker 11: I think we covered these things so thoroughly now that
Speaker 11: by the time we get to August, we're like out
Speaker 11: of surprise teams.
Speaker 4: So I don't know who that would be.
Speaker 11: I mean, I look at the NFC South, honestly, Dan,
Speaker 11: and I look at New Orleans and the way New
Speaker 11: Orleans came on last year, and like I think Kellen
Speaker 11: Moore is a really good offensive design guy, offensive play caller.
Speaker 11: They've got a good defensive coordinator in Brandon Staley. If
Speaker 11: Tyler Schuck can be who he was for the last
Speaker 11: six games of last year over the course of a
Speaker 11: full year. Well, they got two first round picks that tackle.
Speaker 11: They've got two first round picks at receiver. They have
Speaker 11: Tamara and Etci ended running back. They're bringing in, you know,
Speaker 11: a new tight end in Oscar delt to go with
Speaker 11: Jawan Johnson. I just there are a lot of pieces
Speaker 11: in place there, and they looked really good at the
Speaker 11: end of last year. So the danger has always taken
Speaker 11: like the December of the year before and projecting it.
Speaker 11: But I think, but I think New Orleans there was
Speaker 11: a surprise team because I think you could take twenty
Speaker 11: two teams, twenty three teams, twenty four teams off the
Speaker 11: table as we've all talked.
Speaker 4: About all of them.
Speaker 11: Maybe one of the team is like out of the
Speaker 11: group that's left that might surprise that people will be
Speaker 11: New Orleans.
Speaker 2: Safe travels. Thanks for spending some time with us. We'll
Speaker 2: talk to you soon.
Speaker 11: Thanks Dan, I have somebody to take a picture of
Speaker 11: my ridiculous setup. Here you are perched on top of
Speaker 11: a twelve attack of coke and a twelve attack of
Speaker 11: die coke.
Speaker 2: But we made it work. Thank you, Albert, Thanks Dan,
Speaker 2: Albert Breer Monday morning Quarterback. Yeah, there's movement behind him.
Speaker 2: There's guys getting soft drinks out of the cooler right
Speaker 2: now to it. But he's been a busy man at
Speaker 2: the Chiefs today, at the Broncos yesterday. Then he's got Texans, Lions, Bengals,
Speaker 2: Cold Spears, Packers, Vikings, Browns and the Bills. A couple
Speaker 2: of phone calls in here. Trip in Vegas is back, Hi, Trip,
Speaker 2: what do you have for me?
Speaker 4: Hey?
Speaker 12: DP, good morning. I was good to speak to y'all
Speaker 12: last week when you were talking about trade value of
Speaker 12: the day and Net's so basically, I think you guys
Speaker 12: are set to win now till you retire, meaning that
Speaker 12: paula quarterback over to you, or Marvin's a small handed
Speaker 12: but a sure handed, skilled position player that's deserving. Dylan's
Speaker 12: on a rookie contract, so you can't do anything with him,
Speaker 12: And then with Todd, he just reminds me of Roger
Speaker 12: Dorn in the movie Major League when they go Hey,
Speaker 12: we didn't know you didn't have any high We thought
Speaker 12: you didn't have any high price talent. We don't. He's
Speaker 12: just high priced. Don't have a good day.
Speaker 2: Thank you. Trip got a shot for me, Trip, Yeah,
Speaker 2: he does take as usually very accurate. I got no comeback,
Speaker 2: Zach and Knoxville's back. Hi, Zach, what do you have
Speaker 2: for me?
Speaker 4: Adip?
Speaker 13: Thanks for taking my call to play off the running
Speaker 13: back conversation? Would you rather have a Saquon Barkley or
Speaker 13: a Bijon Robinson or would you rather funnel that money
Speaker 13: towards like, say, like a T Higgins and a solid
Speaker 13: number two wide receiver.
Speaker 2: Oh, feels like you can get receivers, but then it
Speaker 2: feels like you can running backs as well. But there's
Speaker 2: only a couple that are that high end, like Saquon, Bijon,
Speaker 2: Jamior Gibbs. If you want to still throw in Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 2: McCaffrey's not a home run hitter like he used to be.
Speaker 2: The other guys are home run hitters, and there's very
Speaker 2: That's why I was like Jeremiah Love, Yeah, I thought
Speaker 2: he was going to be the best player in the draft.
Speaker 2: I thought he was a home run hitter. He could
Speaker 2: you know, kick return out of the backfield, catch passes
Speaker 2: and like Arizona may get it right one of these days.
Speaker 2: They do have. You do have some talent, like if
Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison continues to progress, Trey McBride like you have,
Speaker 2: you have some pieces there. You could just use a
Speaker 2: quarterback there. That's what's kind of holding him back. Charlie
Speaker 2: and Dayton. Hi, Charlie, what do you have for me?
Speaker 14: Good morning?
Speaker 10: Dan.
Speaker 14: You were talking about the potential further to be a
Speaker 14: cap for in the MLB, and somebody's talking about, you know,
Speaker 14: the problems that may or may not solve. And if
Speaker 14: the main problem is me trying to figure out if
Speaker 14: the Cincinnati Reds are a farm team or a legitimate team,
Speaker 14: I think that is a big problem, and I would
Speaker 14: I would guess that the cap four would maybe solve
Speaker 14: that or at least make me think that the Reds
Speaker 14: are trying to be relevant or you know, a small
Speaker 14: market team. Would the four solve?
Speaker 15: Would it be similar to like how the NFL like
Speaker 15: is it? Would it put it to the point where,
Speaker 15: like a major League Baseball team at least gives you
Speaker 15: the illusion that you are relevant.
Speaker 2: Well, I think just making the playoffs is probably good
Speaker 2: enough for quite a few owners that you're going to
Speaker 2: make your money. You're gonna have people come out and
Speaker 2: revenue share, and we don't. We're not going to be
Speaker 2: in for the big guys. Maybe we get lucky like
Speaker 2: Arizona did a couple of years ago where they take
Speaker 2: out the Dodgers. But you got to spend money. It's
Speaker 2: gonna be really challenging. Maybe Tampa does it. Maybe Tampa
Speaker 2: surprises people. The American League is open for business. I
Speaker 2: know the Yankees are there. See I thought the Yankees
Speaker 2: would have been involved in the Trek Schouble sweepstakes as well.
Speaker 2: And maybe it's not that desirable or the Dodgers are
Speaker 2: so desirable that they're taking people out of you know,
Speaker 2: the process here of you know, offering up some kind
Speaker 2: of trade. But imagine, if you're the Yankees, you can
Speaker 2: go back to the World Series, you get Trek Scouble,
Speaker 2: you can go back to the World Series. Because who's
Speaker 2: in your way now? The Red Sox are playing great?
Speaker 2: Is there gonna be something out of the Central The
Speaker 2: West is terrible. They're horrible, I mean terrible. And so
Speaker 2: if I'm the Yankee Now they may say we're gonna
Speaker 2: go to the World Series anyway, But I got Tampa
Speaker 2: to worry about Seattle. You're the Yankees, and if you
Speaker 2: had Trek Scuble, you're going to the World Series. In
Speaker 2: my opinion, Yeah, Pauli.
Speaker 3: The Al West is terrible, Dan, as you said, the
Speaker 3: best team has is fifty eight and fifty six the Astros.
Speaker 3: They've been outscored by twenty nine runs this year. Every
Speaker 3: team in the division has been outscored this season.
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Speaker 2: Mike Sando senior NFL writer for The Athletic. He's a
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame voter, and his twenty twenty six Quarterback
Speaker 2: Tears column drops today. Todd thought it was tea rs
Speaker 2: like tears. I said, I said, no, it's levels.
Speaker 5: I have tears about bow Nick's not big and level.
Speaker 2: Oh, I know, Paulie was telling Fritzie Bownicks is like
Speaker 2: a Tier three quarterback, and Fritzie's going apoplectic on everybody here.
Speaker 2: So Mike's been doing this his thirteenth annual survey thanking
Speaker 2: all the quarterbacks into five tiers from best to worst,
Speaker 2: and also did this with a help of votes from
Speaker 2: fifty NFL coaches and executives. Thirty five veteran quarterbacks are
Speaker 2: ranked sorted into five tiers from best to worst. We
Speaker 2: will welcome back Mike. Mike, thanks for joining us. Give
Speaker 2: me the criteria for tier one.
Speaker 16: I'm glad that you're asking about criteria. We need a
Speaker 16: criteria for the Hall of Fame. I think criteria is
Speaker 16: the key to all of these lists.
Speaker 8: Do you have one?
Speaker 16: And for top tier it's really you know, do you
Speaker 16: carry the team each week? Do you handle those pure
Speaker 16: pass situations, meaning we got to throw the ball. They
Speaker 16: know we got to throw the ball. They're more nervous
Speaker 16: on defense than we are on offense. And you kind
Speaker 16: of know that if you're a fan of a team,
Speaker 16: when you have to throw it, everything gets stripped away
Speaker 16: and you don't really have a major hole in your game.
Speaker 8: That's Tier one.
Speaker 2: Okay. So Patrick Mahomes is the number one quarterback even
Speaker 2: coming off an injury. And I always look at these
Speaker 2: lists and go, okay, there's a regular season quarterback and
Speaker 2: then there's a postseason quarterback. Josh Allen regular season quarterback's
Speaker 2: been unbelievable, Lamar Jackson, regular season quarterback. When we get
Speaker 2: into the postseason, then it's different. And I don't know
Speaker 2: if these rankings would be different if I said give
Speaker 2: me the postseason quarterback as opposed to the regular season quarterback.
Speaker 16: I really agree with that, And even Josh Allen was
Speaker 16: in Tier one, But I felt like when we get
Speaker 16: to these playoff games, there's a sloppiness around Lamar Jackson
Speaker 16: or Josh Allen. The balls on the ground, sometimes there's
Speaker 16: wasted opportunities. You don't feel like they fully understand how
Speaker 16: precious each possession is. Right whereas with somebody like Mahomes,
Speaker 16: they're on top of all of that and they tend
Speaker 16: to not make those kind of sloppy mistakes, and it
Speaker 16: just feels like a more of a well oiled machine,
Speaker 16: and that really does serve you well when the margins
Speaker 16: are mollest in those playoff games.
Speaker 2: You only have three quarterbacks in Tier one. For Joe Burrow,
Speaker 2: oh you got oh yeah, you have stafford Inell. Okay,
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow feels like he's gotten a little bit of
Speaker 2: a Hall pass injuries. He did go to the Super Bowl,
Speaker 2: but this is one of those win healthy kind of rankings.
Speaker 16: Yeah, I would say the last two years his numbers
Speaker 16: are almost identical to Lamar Jackson's and he's played five
Speaker 16: fewer games. I do think that there is a premium
Speaker 16: put on the peer passing, the ability to throw the ball
Speaker 16: from the pocket.
Speaker 8: That's the most.
Speaker 16: Consistent sustainer of success, not only in a course of
Speaker 16: a season, but a course of a career. You don't
Speaker 16: see a lot of dual threaders at age thirty seven
Speaker 16: dual threading anybody, right, So I think that really helps
Speaker 16: Joe Burrow. And look, he was spectacular a couple of
Speaker 16: years ago. People understand his defense was absolutely horrible. I think,
Speaker 16: you know, when I go on and have a conversation
Speaker 16: in Seattle, why isn't Sam Arnold higher?
Speaker 8: Well?
Speaker 16: Number one defense and special teams in the league. People
Speaker 16: know how they win the game, right, Sam can do
Speaker 16: it sometimes, he doesn't do it all the time, and
Speaker 16: so I think those Tier one guys like Burrow, you
Speaker 16: feel like he can do it all the time. It's
Speaker 16: not like he's missed full seasons in the last couple
Speaker 16: of years. So I think that's why he gets a
Speaker 16: little bit of a break.
Speaker 2: But you got Baker Mayfield and Sam Donald slotted together,
Speaker 2: it feels like Baker Mayfield does more to help his
Speaker 2: team win than Sam Darnald.
Speaker 8: I think that's defensible. Yeah, I think that's true.
Speaker 16: I think Donald probably, you know, winning the Super Bowl,
Speaker 16: there's probably some kind of a premium on that. One
Speaker 16: of the great conversations I had with somebody was like,
Speaker 16: you know, what, were Eli Manning or Joe Flack, who
Speaker 16: over the course of their careers those super Bowls where
Speaker 16: everything And obviously they you know, made some big plays
Speaker 16: in those Super Bowls too to win. But I think
Speaker 16: that helps. That helps Donald low too. I feel like
Speaker 16: people feel like with Baker Mayfield that he is probably
Speaker 16: slipped a little bit last year, that it fell off
Speaker 16: around him and he had a much harder time, and
Speaker 16: so I think that's probably why he kind of slipped
Speaker 16: a little bit there, and we'll see what happens this year.
Speaker 16: Doesn't really feel like Tampa's on fire either. That situation
Speaker 16: feels valatile to me.
Speaker 2: The Jalen Hurts ranking is always fascinating because if I said, hey,
Speaker 2: you got to pick your quarterback for the postseason. Jalen
Speaker 2: Hurts is going to be in my top five because
Speaker 2: I've seen there, there's enough of the sample size there.
Speaker 2: But why is he seventeenth on this list? In your opinion?
Speaker 16: I think that it is hard to you know, it's
Speaker 16: hard to parse out credit in football, harder than the
Speaker 16: other ones when you have great teams around him or not.
Speaker 16: And I think he's really done it when he's had
Speaker 16: the best offensive line in the league. They've had a
Speaker 16: great running game that he's a big part of, and increasingly,
Speaker 16: you know, at least lately, they've had a really good defense.
Speaker 8: So like, would the Eagles trade.
Speaker 16: How many put it this way, how many players ranked
Speaker 16: higher on this list would the Eagles trade Hurts for?
Speaker 8: I think it'd be a lot of them.
Speaker 2: Who would you trade? Okay, so Mahomes, Allen Stafford, Borough, Lamar.
Speaker 16: Yep, Herbert, Oh yeah, every day of the week. Dak
Speaker 16: probably may for sure, Yes, sure, I think so.
Speaker 2: Jordan Love Yes, Brock perty, Caleb Williams.
Speaker 16: I mean, Caleb, I think people would take for the
Speaker 16: long runway in the future, you know, Purty, that depends.
Speaker 16: I mean, some people think he's product of system to
Speaker 16: a degree too. But we're getting you know, after that,
Speaker 16: Jaden Daniels Darnold. I think, Laurence, this is what I
Speaker 16: think about Jalen Hurts. Do you think how excited do
Speaker 16: you think they are right now to sign him, to
Speaker 16: give him a raise and a big extension.
Speaker 2: Probably not thrilled.
Speaker 16: And do you think he's They just picked up a
Speaker 16: twenty twenty eight first round pick in that AJ Brown trade.
Speaker 16: When they did that, my mind kind of went too.
Speaker 16: I wonder how much longer Jalen Hurts is their quarterback
Speaker 16: as opposed? And if Jalen Hurts were available, like, would
Speaker 16: people be clamoring to get him? I mean, he would
Speaker 16: make money and get a job, don't get me wrong,
Speaker 16: but I don't think I'd be the same as if
Speaker 16: those guys above him were.
Speaker 2: Okay, so let's say Baker Mayfield's available and Jalen Hurts
Speaker 2: same price.
Speaker 16: I mean I would probably take Baker Mayfield, would you No.
Speaker 16: I feel like Jalen Hurts really needs to run. It
Speaker 16: needs his legs to be part of this, and I
Speaker 16: don't trust that the older he gets.
Speaker 8: I guess this is where I'm coming from.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think it's fair. And you talk about
Speaker 2: the offensive line. I get all that he has weapons,
Speaker 2: he got a great running back. I understand all that,
Speaker 2: but I have seen him on the biggest stage in
Speaker 2: two Super Bowls be the best guy on the field. Yeah,
Speaker 2: So I just I keep coming back to that, whether
Speaker 2: that's fair or not. Oh Nicks did a great job
Speaker 2: with the Broncos. You got him leading a Tier three Yeah.
Speaker 16: I think he had four Tier two votes last year,
Speaker 16: seven twenty one this year.
Speaker 8: So that's a big jump.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 11: C J.
Speaker 2: Stroud's the one that's kind of fascinating. You're just lingering
Speaker 2: there at number twenty.
Speaker 16: He is, and I think that it's a huge year
Speaker 16: for him. They finally got him some offensive lineman. I think,
Speaker 16: you know, I think that's he is one of those quarterbacks.
Speaker 16: I think Herbert's in this category two where you know
Speaker 16: they've taken some hits and you get a feeling sometimes
Speaker 16: watching them that it's affecting them even maybe when the
Speaker 16: rush isn't there, and you can kind of get a
Speaker 16: syndrome as a.
Speaker 8: Quarterback where it's hard to pull out of that.
Speaker 16: And I think this is a really big year for
Speaker 16: both of those quarterbacks to kind of feel comfortable again,
Speaker 16: feel good again, and Shrouds clearly has it in him,
Speaker 16: but they have not had an offensive line. And it
Speaker 16: doesn't mean it's all the line's fault, but I think
Speaker 16: we've seen without one, he has a hard time kind
Speaker 16: of beating the pressure, beating the defense with his anticipation
Speaker 16: in the quick, confident throws that we've seen some of
Speaker 16: the other quarterbacks be able to make.
Speaker 2: I'm federally mandated to ask you about Shador Sanders. You
Speaker 2: have him as the thirty fifth ranked quarterback.
Speaker 8: Out of thirty five.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so is this just kind of an incomplete that
Speaker 2: we're not We're still not sure what we have here.
Speaker 16: It's worse than that because thirty seven of the voters
Speaker 16: put him in tier four. To be in Tier four,
Speaker 16: you're either you know, somebody you wouldn't want to go
Speaker 16: to the whole season with. It could be like a
Speaker 16: Jacoby Brissette, right, we sort of know what he is
Speaker 16: and we don't we want to get a different guy.
Speaker 16: Or tier four can be the guy's barely started any games,
Speaker 16: you know, let's put him in tier four, so you
Speaker 16: could give Shaudre some of that. But he got twelve
Speaker 16: in Tier five. I that's the most of anyone in here.
Speaker 7: JD.
Speaker 8: McCarthy got ten.
Speaker 16: So that's five is like not a starter period, and
Speaker 16: so people really, you know, question his you know, some
Speaker 16: of the satistical ability, you know, and then just his
Speaker 16: his accuracy. People didn't feel like was very good at
Speaker 16: all last year, so you know it, in my mind,
Speaker 16: I also wonder like, okay, do people not like him too?
Speaker 16: You know, just his his attitude, his approach, his pedigree,
Speaker 16: lack of a better word, just coming up the way
Speaker 16: he did. I don't think that probably helps him, no.
Speaker 2: And then your dad shows up in training camp and
Speaker 2: you know, ESPN just spends hours and hours on shoot
Speaker 2: or Sanders and I understand the name, I understand the clicks,
Speaker 2: but if you look at production versus clicks, he would
Speaker 2: be a Tier one quarterback totally.
Speaker 8: He's a Tier one clicker, you know.
Speaker 16: So I think he has some value that way, But
Speaker 16: people didn't see a whole lot to build on last year.
Speaker 2: Ever, hear from a quarterback after they've dropped on your list.
Speaker 8: Uh, that's interesting. I say.
Speaker 16: The highlight was this a number of years ago, when
Speaker 16: Philip Rivers was giving a one of those off the
Speaker 16: field pressers. You know, all the media is standing around him,
Speaker 16: and I wasn't there, and yeah, I knew him a
Speaker 16: little bit, but he said, yea, I gotta watch out.
Speaker 16: I'll be following, you know, watch out, I'll be following
Speaker 16: in Sando's tears or something. And I thought, hey, that
Speaker 16: kind of made my day. You know, my kids were
Speaker 16: impressionable at the age at that time, and so that
Speaker 16: was probably the best, the best reference that I got
Speaker 16: that I found out about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what Aaron Rodgers is going to
Speaker 2: think about being there in Tier three, Mike.
Speaker 8: I would love to I'd love to hear it from
Speaker 8: and I kind of agree.
Speaker 16: I mean, one of the quotes I used in there
Speaker 16: from someone in the league was like, you're not taking
Speaker 16: him over some of these other guys. I mean, just
Speaker 16: for his ability to throw and run the offense that
Speaker 16: said doesn't look the way that.
Speaker 8: It used to look like.
Speaker 2: Here, thanks for providing programming for a lot of shows
Speaker 2: across America this week. We appreciate that.
Speaker 16: I appreciate you having me on. And congrats too. I
Speaker 16: know you're in the victory lap here, congrats on everything.
Speaker 16: It's an honor to be here.
Speaker 2: And don't you're gonna try to embarrass me and maybe
Speaker 2: nominate me, you know, for somebody contributor to the Pro
Speaker 2: Football Hall of Fame. I mean, if you want to,
Speaker 2: you can. But if it makes you happy, Yeah, if
Speaker 2: it makes you happy, then fine.
Speaker 16: Well, you know, the Belichick omission went over so well,
Speaker 16: I think, you know, I think probably putting you in
Speaker 16: over him would be a good first start.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 2: Okay, how did that happen?
Speaker 8: So that story. I've been on the committee for fifteen.
Speaker 16: Years, and there's been a number of times where I like,
Speaker 16: I get frustrated because you can't make people think the
Speaker 16: way you think, right, And I'm like, oh, what we
Speaker 16: found out on this is they changed the voting so
Speaker 16: that you had three senior candidates, guys are retired twenty
Speaker 16: five years from playing. You had a coach, and you
Speaker 16: had a contributor. Contributors like an owner. There's people on
Speaker 16: that committee that it's like their religion to get the
Speaker 16: seniors in.
Speaker 8: Okay, and so these people, you had to pick three
Speaker 8: of those five.
Speaker 16: On the final ballot, they picked they just spanned the seniors,
Speaker 16: picked all seniors, leaving off Belichick because they feel like
Speaker 16: if these seniors don't make it, they'll never make it
Speaker 16: and I just that just really irritated to me. That's
Speaker 16: like taking the process into your own hands, making it
Speaker 16: about yourself. You have to step back and evaluate these five.
Speaker 16: We can worry about the process later you don't like it,
Speaker 16: then work to change it. But you have to put
Speaker 16: the best people in, and Belichick is so I.
Speaker 8: Was very embarrassed.
Speaker 2: Belichick stinted North Carolina, hurt his chances at all first
Speaker 2: ballot or.
Speaker 16: Pro Football Hall of Fame, pro you know. I mean, look,
Speaker 16: it doesn't help anybody when they go somewhere else and fail.
Speaker 16: But come on, I mean the body of work as
Speaker 16: a head coach and before that as an assistant coach.
Speaker 16: I mean, he's the standard in a lot of ways.
Speaker 16: And so I don't know when you look at some
Speaker 16: of the coaches they've put in. I wasn't always on
Speaker 16: the coach committee in these years. I'm gonna, but I
Speaker 16: was like, how can you put some of those guys
Speaker 16: in and not have Belichick skate in?
Speaker 2: I have no idea Mike Tomlin did enough to be
Speaker 2: a Hall of Fame coach.
Speaker 8: That'll be interesting. Yeah, I think he'll.
Speaker 16: I think he'll be in the room and he'll be
Speaker 16: the coaching finalist at some point, and then it depends
Speaker 16: really what the format is, who he has to compete
Speaker 16: against on the final ballot. Will he be over able
Speaker 16: to overcome players? I don't think so, and we've seen that.
Speaker 16: That's one of the reasons they created a lane, a
Speaker 16: coach's lane. But it feels to me like some of
Speaker 16: this structure and processes in flux. Maybe they're waiting till
Speaker 16: after the ceremony to not distract from it, you know,
Speaker 16: with Larry Fitzgerald and Drew Brees and those guys going
Speaker 16: in Luke Keigley. But I feel like there's they're going
Speaker 16: to evolve, maybe the committee or the handles, some different
Speaker 16: people something after what happened last year, and then that
Speaker 16: will determine whether at Tomlin has a chance. I would
Speaker 16: say right now it would be very difficult for him,
Speaker 16: very difficult.
Speaker 2: Great stuff as always, Mike, thanks for joining us.
Speaker 8: Thank you.
Speaker 2: It's Mike Sando, senior NFL writer for The Athletic and
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