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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to The Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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<v Speaker 2>And welcome to the program. It's our one on this Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 2>Dan and the Dan Ets Dan Patrick Show morale is hi.

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<v Speaker 2>Fritzie's in the back row with a big smile on

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<v Speaker 2>his face. Dylan is there with his poker face. Marvin

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<v Speaker 2>front row. I don't know what kind of face you have,

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<v Speaker 2>A friendly face. I'd say that's a friendly face right there,

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<v Speaker 2>and then PAULI, that's a professorial face that he has.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Paul, real quick before we move on, did any

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<v Speaker 3>of you guys have a great yearbook photo?

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<v Speaker 4>My senior year felt good about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, although I had a red blazer on it.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know why. My mom took me shopping and

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<v Speaker 2>it's a side it's the angle is very dramatic. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know why I allow this to happen, but it's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Hair look good, got this red blazer on, and of

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<v Speaker 2>all my pictures, that's probably the best that I had

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<v Speaker 2>yes time.

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<v Speaker 5>Because the schools they hire these people, they think they

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<v Speaker 5>Fellini or something like that. They don't wish they were in.

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<v Speaker 6>Some kind of movie or something, and they're like, this

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<v Speaker 6>is the best they can do is taking like middle

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<v Speaker 6>school or high school pictures.

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<v Speaker 5>They get a little carried away with it over the

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<v Speaker 5>shoulder look or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Did fully need take high school pictures?

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know. Hopefully did I think he just went

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<v Speaker 5>right to the big time as far as.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, like Richard Avedon or somebody like that.

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<v Speaker 6>Maybe, Yeah, they take me a little too seriously that

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<v Speaker 6>the people were taking the pictures of that.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, it's just a high school yearbook. Relax.

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<v Speaker 2>How about you, Marvin, how was your high school yearbook?

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<v Speaker 5>You know what, I don't mind it.

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<v Speaker 7>I had a had a tan shirt, a tan tie,

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<v Speaker 7>and I had football pants on that you cannot see.

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<v Speaker 7>My mom got me out of football practice that Marvel.

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<v Speaker 7>You got to take this photo because it was the

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<v Speaker 7>last day, So Marvin, you have to.

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<v Speaker 8>So it looked good.

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<v Speaker 7>The hair looked good, you know, had had the waves,

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<v Speaker 7>had the waves spinning when I had hair.

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<v Speaker 2>What about you, Dylan?

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<v Speaker 4>Uh?

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<v Speaker 9>My, my I peaked probably with like my fifth grade

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<v Speaker 9>yearbook photo, but my senior year one they used the

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<v Speaker 9>I didn't like fill out anything, so I think they

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<v Speaker 9>just use one. And it's the one where I have

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<v Speaker 9>like my fist under my chin like the thinker. It's uh,

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<v Speaker 9>it's pretty brutal.

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<v Speaker 2>That would be Rodan, very good, yes, Rodan. Uh, Fritzy

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<v Speaker 2>has a picture like that with your your chin resting.

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<v Speaker 6>On your your real like a really concentrating But my

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<v Speaker 6>picts are all puffy hair, weird things with suspenders of

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<v Speaker 6>a lore shirts, jams shirts.

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<v Speaker 5>Back in the day, and that was a big deal.

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<v Speaker 5>I felt like carpeting on your shirt. I don't know

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<v Speaker 5>what I was doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you can be part of the DP show calendar.

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<v Speaker 2>You send us your photo. DP Calendar twenty twenty seven

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<v Speaker 2>at Danpatrick dot com. All right, pull question, play of

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<v Speaker 2>the day, stat of the day, all of that forthcoming.

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<v Speaker 2>Ya had a lot of trades. The difference between buyers

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<v Speaker 2>and sellers just a couple of games. I still go

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<v Speaker 2>back to the Brewers. Look, I know small market. Nobody

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<v Speaker 2>in the AL and NL Central want to spend money,

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<v Speaker 2>although the Cubs do. But you have this team that

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<v Speaker 2>they have the third best odds right now to win

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<v Speaker 2>the World Series. Go out and at least put in

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<v Speaker 2>an effort for Terrek Skubel because it helps you in

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<v Speaker 2>two ways. It keeps him from the Dodgers, and with

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<v Speaker 2>him and Misowski, you can win with those two guys

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<v Speaker 2>as your starters. Certainly in a five game series, but

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<v Speaker 2>a seven game series. So I at what point do

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<v Speaker 2>you say, Okay, we're all in. I go back with

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<v Speaker 2>the Brewers when they traded for CC Sabathia. They used

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<v Speaker 2>him down the stretch. It didn't work out in the playoffs,

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<v Speaker 2>but at least they made an effort there. Yes, I

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<v Speaker 2>know you give up prospects, but at what point do

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<v Speaker 2>you say this is as good as we kind of

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<v Speaker 2>expect to be or want to be, And you're not

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<v Speaker 2>going to be able to go out there and keep

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<v Speaker 2>that picture from that You have to go through the

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<v Speaker 2>Dodgers anyway, So why not go get a guy the

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<v Speaker 2>Dodgers really might need now with Otani not being able

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<v Speaker 2>to pitch, So that one surprised me a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>The Braves same thing. You got a lot of talent. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe they think this is good enough, but I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think it is. Certainly in the National League. In the

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<v Speaker 2>American League, this is where I'd be going. If I'm

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<v Speaker 2>the Rays. Certainly the Yankees, I'd go all in. The

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<v Speaker 2>American league's wide open. You can get to the World Series.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, there's not a lot of hurdles in your

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<v Speaker 2>way in the American League. Now, the Yankees they have

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<v Speaker 2>the second best odds. You know, the Red Sox are

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<v Speaker 2>now back in the picture. Who would have thought. But

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<v Speaker 2>if I'm the Rays, maybe I can't keep trek scuoble.

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<v Speaker 2>But what is the goal here? Is the goal to

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<v Speaker 2>make the playoffs? And kind of be threatening. Is that

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<v Speaker 2>to get to the World Series? Like what is the

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<v Speaker 2>goal here? And that's what's lost on me with the

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<v Speaker 2>trade deadline. Go in and roll the dice, and I

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<v Speaker 2>know we'll look back and say, oh my gosh, you

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<v Speaker 2>know three years ago they gave up that prospect. I

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<v Speaker 2>get it, but I would at least want my team

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<v Speaker 2>to go, let's go. I don't want you to be crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want you to be drunken sailors. I want

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<v Speaker 2>you to be smart about it. Get the right guy

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<v Speaker 2>for your team. And Trek Scuoble is the best pitcher

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<v Speaker 2>in baseball, at least on the short list, and the

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<v Speaker 2>Brewers Missserowski tired down the stretch last year. Now you

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<v Speaker 2>have to give him him almost an innings limit pitch count.

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<v Speaker 2>But you got to be ready to go in the postseason.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you got the third best odds and you're

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<v Speaker 2>not loading up and not keeping Trek Scuble from the Dodgers,

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<v Speaker 2>to me, it's a missed opportunity. The Falcons have signed

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<v Speaker 2>b Jeon Robinson to a new deal. He and Jamier

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<v Speaker 2>Gibbs were holding out or holding in. This is the

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<v Speaker 2>updated running back pay and this just happened about fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>minutes ago. Bjeon Robinson is twenty two point twenty five million.

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<v Speaker 2>With incentives, it'll be twenty five million, So that's number one.

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<v Speaker 2>Number two on the list is Saquon Barkley at twenty

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<v Speaker 2>point six Christian McCaffrey nineteen million, Devon eighth Chan sixteen million.

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<v Speaker 2>So Jamir Gibbs probably is looking at something in the

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<v Speaker 2>twenty three million dollar range. With incentives. For Bijon Robinson

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<v Speaker 2>it could be up to twenty five million. And you

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<v Speaker 2>start to look at the value of these two running backs.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying they've separated themselves because sik One Barkley

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<v Speaker 2>is still wonderful, but Bijon signs three years seventy five million,

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<v Speaker 2>and if you start to look at what his contributions are,

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<v Speaker 2>he might be the best running back in football. If

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<v Speaker 2>I look at what he did last year, he had

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<v Speaker 2>fourteen hundred and seventy eight rushing yards, he averaged five

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<v Speaker 2>point one yards per carry, He had seventy nine catches,

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<v Speaker 2>He had twenty three hundred yards from scrimmage and eleven touchdowns.

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<v Speaker 2>Gibbs twelve hundred yards rushing, averaged five yards per Carrie

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<v Speaker 2>had seventy seven catches for six hundred yards eighteen hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and thirty nine yards from scrimmage with eighteen touchdowns. Extremely

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<v Speaker 2>valuable and both of them are and really the center

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<v Speaker 2>point of their offenses and the running back position starting

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<v Speaker 2>to get paid again CMC. When he got paid, then

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<v Speaker 2>Saquon came in. Now you got Bijon and then you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to have Jamiir Gibbs get paid as well.

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<v Speaker 8>All right, poll.

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<v Speaker 2>Question for the first hour of the program, Dylan, what

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<v Speaker 2>are you thinking about?

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<v Speaker 9>Well, we can start off with one from PAULI. Spending

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<v Speaker 9>a lot on your running back is smart or not smart?

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<v Speaker 7>Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>When the Falcons drafted Bijon Robinson, what did they take

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<v Speaker 2>him eighth? The Lions they took Jamir Gibbs, what was

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<v Speaker 2>he twelve? Okay? Your goal is to get your running

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<v Speaker 2>back another contract. I would think if you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>take somebody up that high, isn't your goal to be

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<v Speaker 2>like I want you to be great and we want

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<v Speaker 2>to bring you back. Now. I'm not big on running

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<v Speaker 2>backs after five years. I just think the wear and

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<v Speaker 2>tear touches, not just running the ball, pass receiving. But

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<v Speaker 2>you get guys, if they know how to protect themselves,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the key. I get you out in space. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to run you off the middle. You're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be able to break off some of these for long touchdowns,

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<v Speaker 2>so you're a home run hitter like Jeremiah Love is

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<v Speaker 2>already getting paid a lot of money for the Arizona Cardinals.

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<v Speaker 2>But what we're asking those running backs to do is

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<v Speaker 2>basically everything. Be a wide receiver, be a running back,

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<v Speaker 2>be a decoy, be able to block. And if I'm now,

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<v Speaker 2>I was in on Saquon Barkley and the Giants taking

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<v Speaker 2>him number two overall because I thought he would be

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<v Speaker 2>the missing piece and help out Eli Manning at the

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<v Speaker 2>end of his career. I was wrong. Saquan was a

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<v Speaker 2>great player, or had the potential to be great. We

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<v Speaker 2>just didn't see it until he went to Philadelphia. Jamiir Gibbs,

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<v Speaker 2>b John Robinson. They're worth that money. And it probably

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<v Speaker 2>probably started with Christian McCaffrey because we thought he was

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<v Speaker 2>done before he went to San Francisco. It was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how much longer he's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to play and how much they used him. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>he's still been banged up, but he's still been great.

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<v Speaker 2>When it comes to Offensive Player of the Year, he's

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<v Speaker 2>usually on the short list there and kind of created

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<v Speaker 2>or recreated the impression of what a running back should be.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I can go back to Ricky Waters or Marshall Falk,

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<v Speaker 2>some of my favorite players, Roger Craig Ladanian, Tomlinson that

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<v Speaker 2>they kind of created this hybrid right in front of us,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, putting even more pressure on defenses. Now

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<v Speaker 2>you have to account for that guy. Yeah, and then

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<v Speaker 2>if you had to have a great running back, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if defense is Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And if you look at Bijon Robinson Dan in his

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<v Speaker 3>three years in the NFL, as you said he's had,

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<v Speaker 3>I think he's got two hundred and sixty one to

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred ninety eight catches in the NFL so far

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<v Speaker 3>that make him the third leading receiver from his draft

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<v Speaker 3>class at the running back position. He was first team

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<v Speaker 3>All Pro last year twenty two and ninety eight yards,

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<v Speaker 3>and same thing with Jamir Gibbs three years close to

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<v Speaker 3>two thousand all purpose yards per year.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, I feel like like the McCaffrey's and the Bejons

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<v Speaker 9>of the world, can they command more money because of

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<v Speaker 9>their pass catching out of the backfield.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you're a full service running back that you never

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<v Speaker 3>has to leave the field. A guy like remember a

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<v Speaker 3>bunch of years ago, Leonard Fournette was taken high. He

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<v Speaker 3>can't catch one hundred balls. He can't catch eighty balls.

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<v Speaker 3>Very good running back, but probably not the all purpose

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<v Speaker 3>running back of today.

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<v Speaker 1>Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan

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<v Speaker 2>He's Albert Breer, very very busy man. Thanks for joining us.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me start with the headline, Aaron Donald, the possibility

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<v Speaker 2>of him coming back, the general sense that you got

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<v Speaker 2>when you were with the Rams was what.

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<v Speaker 11>I think he's coming back, and I think he will

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<v Speaker 11>play the full season. I would say it's unlikely that

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<v Speaker 11>happens before they leave.

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<v Speaker 4>Royal and Marramount where they're having their training camp.

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<v Speaker 11>I believe they leave there on Friday, and I think

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<v Speaker 11>after that everything's in play when they get back to

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<v Speaker 11>their home facility. And so they've discussed this. You know,

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<v Speaker 11>Sean McVay and Aaron Donald are very very close, and

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<v Speaker 11>they already have the framework of a plan laid out

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<v Speaker 11>for what this is going to look like and how

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<v Speaker 11>they're going to handle it. And I think one thing

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<v Speaker 11>that helps, in a weird roundabout way, is the fact

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<v Speaker 11>that he held out in twenty and seventeen. In twenty eighteen,

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<v Speaker 11>those are Sean mcvay's first two years in LA and

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<v Speaker 11>in both of those years they had to be creative

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<v Speaker 11>and ramping them up and getting getting them ready to

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<v Speaker 11>play the season. And in both those years, Aaron Donald

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<v Speaker 11>was the defensive player of the year and the second

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<v Speaker 11>of those years they went to the Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 4>So they have an.

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<v Speaker 11>Idea of how to do this, and you know, I

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<v Speaker 11>think the other thing that really helps is the depth

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<v Speaker 11>they have at that position, like they don't need to

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<v Speaker 11>play him sixty plays a game. They can use him

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<v Speaker 11>creatively and they like the you know, the Kobe Turners,

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<v Speaker 11>the Braydon Fisks, the Punafords, the Tyler Davis's. This is

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<v Speaker 11>a situation where they can really use them in a

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<v Speaker 11>way that's gonna, I think, put them in position to

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<v Speaker 11>be at his best when it matters most.

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<v Speaker 2>You remember the last time a team was high this

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<v Speaker 2>much pre season, and the team that wasn't the defending

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<v Speaker 2>Super Bowl champ.

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<v Speaker 11>The Rams in two thousand and twenty one, maybe when

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<v Speaker 11>they traded for Stafford.

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<v Speaker 4>It's sort of similar to that.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, I mean, I like I remember being on the

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<v Speaker 11>ground floor for the Dream Team Eagles coming out of

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<v Speaker 11>the lockout and what that was like and all the

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<v Speaker 11>high because if you remember, like that year, free agency

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<v Speaker 11>happened at the start of training camp and so when

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<v Speaker 11>they signed Non the awesome Wah to a team that had,

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<v Speaker 11>like Michael Vick was coming off of a fantastic year

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<v Speaker 11>and obviously that went the wrong way, but like there

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<v Speaker 11>was a ton of hype around that team. You see this,

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<v Speaker 11>I mean, I don't. I don't think this is like

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<v Speaker 11>an outsized amount of hype you know, but it isn't

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<v Speaker 11>every year that you see a team in a position

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<v Speaker 11>like this.

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<v Speaker 2>We had v Jon Robinson, he signed his contract. Jamiir

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<v Speaker 2>Gibbs now in the Ondex, what's your philosophy of, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>re signing a first round pick at that position.

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<v Speaker 11>I actually think, Dan, it's gotten to the point where

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<v Speaker 11>running back has been devalued like so much that it's

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<v Speaker 11>becoming a value to sign one. And I remember this

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<v Speaker 11>two years ago, right the offseason in twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 11>And if you remember that that year, Saquon Barkley, Derrick

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<v Speaker 11>Henry and Josh Jacobs were all free agents and the Eagles,

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<v Speaker 11>the Ravens, and the Packers signed those three guys. And

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<v Speaker 11>I remember thinking to myself that in the moment when

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<v Speaker 11>that was happening, like, those aren't stupid teams, you know

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<v Speaker 11>what I mean? Like, those aren't teams that are going

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<v Speaker 11>and doing dumb things in March and winning the offseason.

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<v Speaker 11>And you know, the more you talk to people in

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<v Speaker 11>those organizations, you realize, like the way smart teams are

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<v Speaker 11>starting to look at it is, here's a guy I'm

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<v Speaker 11>going to give the ball to fifteen twenty twenty five

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<v Speaker 11>times a game. That's way more than the receivers getting

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<v Speaker 11>the ball. He's contribute to both the run game in

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<v Speaker 11>the past game in a really significant way. And if

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<v Speaker 11>I have like a bad year at the end of

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<v Speaker 11>the contract, like is, if that's the cost, that's almost nothing.

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<v Speaker 11>Saquon Barkley that offseason got like the equivalent of what

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<v Speaker 11>Darnell Mooney got. In no way to think about that

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<v Speaker 11>like that was the comparable contract third receivers are getting.

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<v Speaker 4>We're getting sixteen million dollars.

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<v Speaker 11>A year, and that's you know, like more than those

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<v Speaker 11>guys got that offseason. So I mean it's starting to

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<v Speaker 11>correct itself a little bit, but I mean I'm in

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<v Speaker 11>Chiefs camp right now. That's part of the reason why

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<v Speaker 11>they go and sign Kenneth Walker is relative peanuts when

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<v Speaker 11>you compare to compared to what guys are making at

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<v Speaker 11>other positions. So, you know, I think it went from

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<v Speaker 11>like it's not smart to sign a running back with

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<v Speaker 11>a lot of mileage, you know, in year four, year

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<v Speaker 11>five to a contract at the top of the market,

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<v Speaker 11>to now it's at the top of the market, is

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<v Speaker 11>a fraction of what it is in other positions.

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<v Speaker 4>So what are we even talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>He's Albert Breer, the Monday Morning Quarterback senior NFL reporter.

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<v Speaker 2>He's at the Chiefs today, speaking of which, with Mahomes

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<v Speaker 2>coming back from surgery, you bring in Kenneth Walker, the

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<v Speaker 2>Chiefs offensive philosophy changing because of maybe Mahomes not running

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<v Speaker 2>as much as he normally would.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, new coordinator too, you know.

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<v Speaker 11>So, I mean Andy's obviously still running the offense, but

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<v Speaker 11>you do go from Matt Naggie back to Eric the enemy.

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<v Speaker 11>I do think there's gonna be more of a commitment

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<v Speaker 11>to the run game. I think there's gonna be a

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<v Speaker 11>little bit of a shift playing under center a little

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<v Speaker 11>bit more with Kenneth Walker here, And you know, I

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<v Speaker 11>think that that's going to serve a couple of purposes.

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<v Speaker 11>Number One, you know, I think it's going to help

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<v Speaker 11>Mahomes as he comes back from the knee, because there's

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<v Speaker 11>always an adjustment, and he's looked great.

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<v Speaker 4>He hasn't missed anything. He's been out here every day,

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<v Speaker 4>you know.

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<v Speaker 11>But I think it's also going to unlock some things

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<v Speaker 11>in the passing game for them. And so I do

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<v Speaker 11>think that the Chiefs offense is going to look a

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<v Speaker 11>little bit different, And you know, I think you know,

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<v Speaker 11>a guy like Walker can unlock a lot of different

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<v Speaker 11>things for them, and he was such an important part

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<v Speaker 11>of what the Seahawks did, so so yeah, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>I think.

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<v Speaker 11>They are going to have a little bit of a

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<v Speaker 11>different look on offense versus what they've had the last

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<v Speaker 11>couple of years.

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<v Speaker 2>Is this the year justin Herbert back's like maybe a

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<v Speaker 2>top five quarterback.

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<v Speaker 11>There are so many things in place there, Dan, I mean,

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<v Speaker 11>I think, you know, you look at it now, and

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<v Speaker 11>I'm not sure he got enough credit for last year.

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, like.

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<v Speaker 11>They won eleven games despite losing Joe Alt and Rashaun Slater.

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<v Speaker 11>Not only that, they were at one point down to

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<v Speaker 11>like their fifth and six tackles, like and that's the

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<v Speaker 11>foundation of their identity. That's what their investment was was

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<v Speaker 11>in that offensive line. And so I think to be

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<v Speaker 11>able to win eleven games, now you've got all back,

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<v Speaker 11>Now you've got Slater back.

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<v Speaker 4>They expect their.

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<v Speaker 11>Young receivers Lad McConkie, Trey Harris to come along. Omarion Hampton,

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<v Speaker 11>the rookie running back from last year, is back for

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<v Speaker 11>his second year and healthy again. It just feels like

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<v Speaker 11>if they can stay healthy, there's a lot of things

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<v Speaker 11>set up for Justin Herbert to have a really big year,

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<v Speaker 11>and I think a huge part of the equation is

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<v Speaker 11>Mike McDaniel and what he's going to be able to do.

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<v Speaker 11>Mike McDaniels never had a quarterback like this, you know,

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<v Speaker 11>and we've seen creatively what he's been able to do

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<v Speaker 11>over the years. He was obviously, you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 11>part of those San Francisco teams that built around Jimmy

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<v Speaker 11>Garoppolo and they got the most out of Tua and

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<v Speaker 11>went to the playoffs with Tua, you.

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<v Speaker 4>Know, in Miami.

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<v Speaker 11>You know, now you're giving him a guy who you know,

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<v Speaker 11>forces you to defend every play the grass in the

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<v Speaker 11>field and has the mind to manipulate everything in between.

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<v Speaker 4>I know Mike is super excited to work with Justin Herbert.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to jump on a hype train, but

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<v Speaker 2>I do love what the Cowboys have on offense, and

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<v Speaker 2>it comes down to just how good they are on defense.

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<v Speaker 2>And I thought, if they come close to the offensive numbers, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I just need a top fifteen defense. It feels like

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<v Speaker 2>for this team to be an actual, true contender. What

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<v Speaker 2>did you feel or take away when you visited the Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 11>They view themselves as almost the reverse Texans, if that

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<v Speaker 11>makes sense, you know what I mean, Like, if the

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<v Speaker 11>Texas could just be pretty good on offense, then they'll

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<v Speaker 11>be unbelievable of the team because of their defenses is

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<v Speaker 11>off the charts, and they really think they have a

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<v Speaker 11>chance to have the best offensive football And they have

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<v Speaker 11>to answer the left tackle question.

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<v Speaker 4>But those two receivers are too legitimate number one.

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<v Speaker 11>Guys, you know, like they they feel good about the

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<v Speaker 11>makeup of their team. A young running back they have

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<v Speaker 11>Jaden Blue out of Texas going in the second year

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<v Speaker 11>is going to be a factor. And they look at

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<v Speaker 11>themselves defensively as we can't have a lot of injuries.

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<v Speaker 11>But for Shaan Gary, Donovan Zeraku, Kenny Clark, Quinn Williams,

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<v Speaker 11>they're the way that they see it and that the

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<v Speaker 11>youngs that the young safety they bring in, Caleb Down's

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<v Speaker 11>playing next to a veteran and Jalen Thompson's coming over

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<v Speaker 11>from Arizona.

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<v Speaker 4>If they can just stay healthy with a.

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<v Speaker 11>New defensive coordinator coming in there and Christian Parker's bringing

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<v Speaker 11>Vic Fangio's scheme, They've got a chance to be representative

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<v Speaker 11>on the defensive side of the ball, like a good,

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<v Speaker 11>solid pro defense, and that, like you said, given the

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<v Speaker 11>offense they had, maybe all they need. The other thing

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<v Speaker 11>that's interesting about them the makeup of the team's really

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<v Speaker 11>good coming out of the Micaeh Parsons trade from last year.

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<v Speaker 11>Like a lot of good guys there, and I don't

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<v Speaker 11>think it's a mistake. Kenny Clark, former team captain, Quin

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<v Speaker 11>Williams's former team captain, jale On Thompson former team captain,

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<v Speaker 11>And I.

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<v Speaker 4>Talked to Dak about this. He's not afraid.

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<v Speaker 11>To put into words their aspirations to go and win

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<v Speaker 11>a Super Bowl this year. So it'll be interesting to

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<v Speaker 11>see how the defense comes along. But I think it

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<v Speaker 11>should be good on that side of the ball. You're right,

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<v Speaker 11>they've got a chance.

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<v Speaker 2>Give me the surprise team, good or bad in your opinion.

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<v Speaker 11>I think we covered these things so thoroughly now that

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<v Speaker 11>by the time we get to August, we're like out

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<v Speaker 11>of surprise teams.

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<v Speaker 4>So I don't know who that would be.

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<v Speaker 11>I mean, I look at the NFC South, honestly, Dan,

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<v Speaker 11>and I look at New Orleans and the way New

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<v Speaker 11>Orleans came on last year, and like I think Kellen

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<v Speaker 11>Moore is a really good offensive design guy, offensive play caller.

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<v Speaker 11>They've got a good defensive coordinator in Brandon Staley. If

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<v Speaker 11>Tyler Schuck can be who he was for the last

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<v Speaker 11>six games of last year over the course of a

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<v Speaker 11>full year. Well, they got two first round picks that tackle.

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<v Speaker 11>They've got two first round picks at receiver. They have

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<v Speaker 11>Tamara and Etci ended running back. They're bringing in, you know,

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<v Speaker 11>a new tight end in Oscar delt to go with

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<v Speaker 11>Jawan Johnson. I just there are a lot of pieces

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<v Speaker 11>in place there, and they looked really good at the

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<v Speaker 11>end of last year. So the danger has always taken

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<v Speaker 11>like the December of the year before and projecting it.

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<v Speaker 11>But I think, but I think New Orleans there was

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<v Speaker 11>a surprise team because I think you could take twenty

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<v Speaker 11>two teams, twenty three teams, twenty four teams off the

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<v Speaker 11>table as we've all talked.

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<v Speaker 4>About all of them.

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<v Speaker 11>Maybe one of the team is like out of the

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<v Speaker 11>group that's left that might surprise that people will be

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<v Speaker 11>New Orleans.

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<v Speaker 2>Safe travels. Thanks for spending some time with us. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>talk to you soon.

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<v Speaker 11>Thanks Dan, I have somebody to take a picture of

0:23:16.600 --> 0:23:19.159
<v Speaker 11>my ridiculous setup. Here you are perched on top of

0:23:19.200 --> 0:23:21.720
<v Speaker 11>a twelve attack of coke and a twelve attack of

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<v Speaker 11>die coke.

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<v Speaker 2>But we made it work. Thank you, Albert, Thanks Dan,

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<v Speaker 2>Albert Breer Monday morning Quarterback. Yeah, there's movement behind him.

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<v Speaker 2>There's guys getting soft drinks out of the cooler right

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<v Speaker 2>now to it. But he's been a busy man at

0:23:39.320 --> 0:23:43.760
<v Speaker 2>the Chiefs today, at the Broncos yesterday. Then he's got Texans, Lions, Bengals,

0:23:43.760 --> 0:23:48.280
<v Speaker 2>Cold Spears, Packers, Vikings, Browns and the Bills. A couple

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<v Speaker 2>of phone calls in here. Trip in Vegas is back, Hi, Trip,

0:23:51.680 --> 0:23:52.520
<v Speaker 2>what do you have for me?

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<v Speaker 4>Hey?

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<v Speaker 12>DP, good morning. I was good to speak to y'all

0:23:55.960 --> 0:23:57.960
<v Speaker 12>last week when you were talking about trade value of

0:23:58.000 --> 0:24:00.680
<v Speaker 12>the day and Net's so basically, I think you guys

0:24:00.680 --> 0:24:03.520
<v Speaker 12>are set to win now till you retire, meaning that

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<v Speaker 12>paula quarterback over to you, or Marvin's a small handed

0:24:07.880 --> 0:24:11.480
<v Speaker 12>but a sure handed, skilled position player that's deserving. Dylan's

0:24:11.480 --> 0:24:14.160
<v Speaker 12>on a rookie contract, so you can't do anything with him,

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<v Speaker 12>And then with Todd, he just reminds me of Roger

0:24:17.440 --> 0:24:19.800
<v Speaker 12>Dorn in the movie Major League when they go Hey,

0:24:20.000 --> 0:24:21.560
<v Speaker 12>we didn't know you didn't have any high We thought

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<v Speaker 12>you didn't have any high price talent. We don't. He's

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<v Speaker 12>just high priced. Don't have a good day.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you. Trip got a shot for me, Trip, Yeah,

0:24:28.920 --> 0:24:31.480
<v Speaker 2>he does take as usually very accurate. I got no comeback,

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<v Speaker 2>Zach and Knoxville's back. Hi, Zach, what do you have

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<v Speaker 2>for me?

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<v Speaker 4>Adip?

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<v Speaker 13>Thanks for taking my call to play off the running

0:24:39.520 --> 0:24:44.080
<v Speaker 13>back conversation? Would you rather have a Saquon Barkley or

0:24:44.119 --> 0:24:47.800
<v Speaker 13>a Bijon Robinson or would you rather funnel that money

0:24:47.840 --> 0:24:51.000
<v Speaker 13>towards like, say, like a T Higgins and a solid

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<v Speaker 13>number two wide receiver.

0:24:54.359 --> 0:24:59.359
<v Speaker 2>Oh, feels like you can get receivers, but then it

0:24:59.359 --> 0:25:01.880
<v Speaker 2>feels like you can running backs as well. But there's

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<v Speaker 2>only a couple that are that high end, like Saquon, Bijon,

0:25:07.359 --> 0:25:11.440
<v Speaker 2>Jamior Gibbs. If you want to still throw in Christian McCaffrey.

0:25:12.359 --> 0:25:14.520
<v Speaker 2>McCaffrey's not a home run hitter like he used to be.

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<v Speaker 2>The other guys are home run hitters, and there's very

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<v Speaker 2>That's why I was like Jeremiah Love, Yeah, I thought

0:25:20.440 --> 0:25:22.080
<v Speaker 2>he was going to be the best player in the draft.

0:25:22.359 --> 0:25:24.640
<v Speaker 2>I thought he was a home run hitter. He could

0:25:24.800 --> 0:25:28.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, kick return out of the backfield, catch passes

0:25:29.640 --> 0:25:33.040
<v Speaker 2>and like Arizona may get it right one of these days.

0:25:33.520 --> 0:25:38.120
<v Speaker 2>They do have. You do have some talent, like if

0:25:38.160 --> 0:25:43.280
<v Speaker 2>Marvin Harrison continues to progress, Trey McBride like you have,

0:25:43.680 --> 0:25:47.119
<v Speaker 2>you have some pieces there. You could just use a

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<v Speaker 2>quarterback there. That's what's kind of holding him back. Charlie

0:25:51.240 --> 0:25:53.119
<v Speaker 2>and Dayton. Hi, Charlie, what do you have for me?

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<v Speaker 14>Good morning?

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<v Speaker 10>Dan.

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<v Speaker 14>You were talking about the potential further to be a

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<v Speaker 14>cap for in the MLB, and somebody's talking about, you know,

0:26:03.320 --> 0:26:06.000
<v Speaker 14>the problems that may or may not solve. And if

0:26:06.000 --> 0:26:09.879
<v Speaker 14>the main problem is me trying to figure out if

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<v Speaker 14>the Cincinnati Reds are a farm team or a legitimate team,

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<v Speaker 14>I think that is a big problem, and I would

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<v Speaker 14>I would guess that the cap four would maybe solve

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<v Speaker 14>that or at least make me think that the Reds

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<v Speaker 14>are trying to be relevant or you know, a small

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<v Speaker 14>market team. Would the four solve?

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<v Speaker 15>Would it be similar to like how the NFL like

0:26:33.720 --> 0:26:35.600
<v Speaker 15>is it? Would it put it to the point where,

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<v Speaker 15>like a major League Baseball team at least gives you

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<v Speaker 15>the illusion that you are relevant.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think just making the playoffs is probably good

0:26:47.000 --> 0:26:49.800
<v Speaker 2>enough for quite a few owners that you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>make your money. You're gonna have people come out and

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<v Speaker 2>revenue share, and we don't. We're not going to be

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<v Speaker 2>in for the big guys. Maybe we get lucky like

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<v Speaker 2>Arizona did a couple of years ago where they take

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<v Speaker 2>out the Dodgers. But you got to spend money. It's

0:27:07.440 --> 0:27:11.320
<v Speaker 2>gonna be really challenging. Maybe Tampa does it. Maybe Tampa

0:27:11.400 --> 0:27:15.159
<v Speaker 2>surprises people. The American League is open for business. I

0:27:15.200 --> 0:27:17.640
<v Speaker 2>know the Yankees are there. See I thought the Yankees

0:27:17.680 --> 0:27:21.040
<v Speaker 2>would have been involved in the Trek Schouble sweepstakes as well.

0:27:21.640 --> 0:27:24.600
<v Speaker 2>And maybe it's not that desirable or the Dodgers are

0:27:24.920 --> 0:27:28.840
<v Speaker 2>so desirable that they're taking people out of you know,

0:27:28.880 --> 0:27:31.480
<v Speaker 2>the process here of you know, offering up some kind

0:27:31.520 --> 0:27:34.800
<v Speaker 2>of trade. But imagine, if you're the Yankees, you can

0:27:34.840 --> 0:27:37.120
<v Speaker 2>go back to the World Series, you get Trek Scouble,

0:27:37.400 --> 0:27:40.200
<v Speaker 2>you can go back to the World Series. Because who's

0:27:40.240 --> 0:27:42.600
<v Speaker 2>in your way now? The Red Sox are playing great?

0:27:43.440 --> 0:27:46.919
<v Speaker 2>Is there gonna be something out of the Central The

0:27:46.920 --> 0:27:52.840
<v Speaker 2>West is terrible. They're horrible, I mean terrible. And so

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<v Speaker 2>if I'm the Yankee Now they may say we're gonna

0:27:55.000 --> 0:27:57.600
<v Speaker 2>go to the World Series anyway, But I got Tampa

0:27:57.680 --> 0:28:02.399
<v Speaker 2>to worry about Seattle. You're the Yankees, and if you

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<v Speaker 2>had Trek Scuble, you're going to the World Series. In

0:28:05.119 --> 0:28:06.520
<v Speaker 2>my opinion, Yeah, Pauli.

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<v Speaker 3>The Al West is terrible, Dan, as you said, the

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<v Speaker 3>best team has is fifty eight and fifty six the Astros.

0:28:12.280 --> 0:28:14.800
<v Speaker 3>They've been outscored by twenty nine runs this year. Every

0:28:14.800 --> 0:28:16.919
<v Speaker 3>team in the division has been outscored this season.

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<v Speaker 2>Mike Sando senior NFL writer for The Athletic. He's a

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<v Speaker 2>Hall of Fame voter, and his twenty twenty six Quarterback

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<v Speaker 2>Tears column drops today. Todd thought it was tea rs

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<v Speaker 2>like tears. I said, I said, no, it's levels.

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<v Speaker 5>I have tears about bow Nick's not big and level.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I know, Paulie was telling Fritzie Bownicks is like

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<v Speaker 2>a Tier three quarterback, and Fritzie's going apoplectic on everybody here.

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<v Speaker 2>So Mike's been doing this his thirteenth annual survey thanking

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<v Speaker 2>all the quarterbacks into five tiers from best to worst,

0:29:04.520 --> 0:29:07.360
<v Speaker 2>and also did this with a help of votes from

0:29:07.360 --> 0:29:11.600
<v Speaker 2>fifty NFL coaches and executives. Thirty five veteran quarterbacks are

0:29:11.680 --> 0:29:15.480
<v Speaker 2>ranked sorted into five tiers from best to worst. We

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<v Speaker 2>will welcome back Mike. Mike, thanks for joining us. Give

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<v Speaker 2>me the criteria for tier one.

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<v Speaker 16>I'm glad that you're asking about criteria. We need a

0:29:25.400 --> 0:29:27.760
<v Speaker 16>criteria for the Hall of Fame. I think criteria is

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<v Speaker 16>the key to all of these lists.

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<v Speaker 8>Do you have one?

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<v Speaker 16>And for top tier it's really you know, do you

0:29:32.320 --> 0:29:35.360
<v Speaker 16>carry the team each week? Do you handle those pure

0:29:35.440 --> 0:29:38.920
<v Speaker 16>pass situations, meaning we got to throw the ball. They

0:29:38.960 --> 0:29:40.920
<v Speaker 16>know we got to throw the ball. They're more nervous

0:29:41.000 --> 0:29:43.040
<v Speaker 16>on defense than we are on offense. And you kind

0:29:43.040 --> 0:29:44.360
<v Speaker 16>of know that if you're a fan of a team,

0:29:44.720 --> 0:29:46.720
<v Speaker 16>when you have to throw it, everything gets stripped away

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<v Speaker 16>and you don't really have a major hole in your game.

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<v Speaker 8>That's Tier one.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. So Patrick Mahomes is the number one quarterback even

0:29:57.840 --> 0:30:02.440
<v Speaker 2>coming off an injury. And I always look at these

0:30:02.600 --> 0:30:05.800
<v Speaker 2>lists and go, okay, there's a regular season quarterback and

0:30:05.800 --> 0:30:09.920
<v Speaker 2>then there's a postseason quarterback. Josh Allen regular season quarterback's

0:30:09.920 --> 0:30:13.280
<v Speaker 2>been unbelievable, Lamar Jackson, regular season quarterback. When we get

0:30:13.280 --> 0:30:16.760
<v Speaker 2>into the postseason, then it's different. And I don't know

0:30:16.800 --> 0:30:19.360
<v Speaker 2>if these rankings would be different if I said give

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<v Speaker 2>me the postseason quarterback as opposed to the regular season quarterback.

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<v Speaker 16>I really agree with that, And even Josh Allen was

0:30:27.520 --> 0:30:31.000
<v Speaker 16>in Tier one, But I felt like when we get

0:30:31.000 --> 0:30:36.040
<v Speaker 16>to these playoff games, there's a sloppiness around Lamar Jackson

0:30:36.560 --> 0:30:39.440
<v Speaker 16>or Josh Allen. The balls on the ground, sometimes there's

0:30:39.480 --> 0:30:44.200
<v Speaker 16>wasted opportunities. You don't feel like they fully understand how

0:30:44.240 --> 0:30:47.800
<v Speaker 16>precious each possession is. Right whereas with somebody like Mahomes,

0:30:48.920 --> 0:30:51.000
<v Speaker 16>they're on top of all of that and they tend

0:30:51.040 --> 0:30:55.000
<v Speaker 16>to not make those kind of sloppy mistakes, and it

0:30:55.080 --> 0:30:57.240
<v Speaker 16>just feels like a more of a well oiled machine,

0:30:57.680 --> 0:30:59.800
<v Speaker 16>and that really does serve you well when the margins

0:30:59.800 --> 0:31:01.680
<v Speaker 16>are mollest in those playoff games.

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<v Speaker 2>You only have three quarterbacks in Tier one. For Joe Burrow,

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<v Speaker 2>oh you got oh yeah, you have stafford Inell. Okay,

0:31:10.480 --> 0:31:12.480
<v Speaker 2>Joe Burrow feels like he's gotten a little bit of

0:31:12.480 --> 0:31:15.840
<v Speaker 2>a Hall pass injuries. He did go to the Super Bowl,

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<v Speaker 2>but this is one of those win healthy kind of rankings.

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<v Speaker 16>Yeah, I would say the last two years his numbers

0:31:24.560 --> 0:31:27.480
<v Speaker 16>are almost identical to Lamar Jackson's and he's played five

0:31:27.520 --> 0:31:29.960
<v Speaker 16>fewer games. I do think that there is a premium

0:31:29.960 --> 0:31:32.520
<v Speaker 16>put on the peer passing, the ability to throw the ball

0:31:32.560 --> 0:31:33.240
<v Speaker 16>from the pocket.

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<v Speaker 8>That's the most.

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<v Speaker 16>Consistent sustainer of success, not only in a course of

0:31:37.720 --> 0:31:39.720
<v Speaker 16>a season, but a course of a career. You don't

0:31:39.720 --> 0:31:41.640
<v Speaker 16>see a lot of dual threaders at age thirty seven

0:31:41.760 --> 0:31:44.680
<v Speaker 16>dual threading anybody, right, So I think that really helps

0:31:44.840 --> 0:31:48.560
<v Speaker 16>Joe Burrow. And look, he was spectacular a couple of

0:31:48.600 --> 0:31:52.360
<v Speaker 16>years ago. People understand his defense was absolutely horrible. I think,

0:31:53.280 --> 0:31:54.960
<v Speaker 16>you know, when I go on and have a conversation

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<v Speaker 16>in Seattle, why isn't Sam Arnold higher?

0:31:56.720 --> 0:31:56.920
<v Speaker 8>Well?

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<v Speaker 16>Number one defense and special teams in the league. People

0:31:59.160 --> 0:32:01.080
<v Speaker 16>know how they win the game, right, Sam can do

0:32:01.160 --> 0:32:04.040
<v Speaker 16>it sometimes, he doesn't do it all the time, and

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<v Speaker 16>so I think those Tier one guys like Burrow, you

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<v Speaker 16>feel like he can do it all the time. It's

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<v Speaker 16>not like he's missed full seasons in the last couple

0:32:10.000 --> 0:32:13.000
<v Speaker 16>of years. So I think that's why he gets a

0:32:13.000 --> 0:32:13.760
<v Speaker 16>little bit of a break.

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<v Speaker 2>But you got Baker Mayfield and Sam Donald slotted together,

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<v Speaker 2>it feels like Baker Mayfield does more to help his

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<v Speaker 2>team win than Sam Darnald.

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<v Speaker 8>I think that's defensible. Yeah, I think that's true.

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<v Speaker 16>I think Donald probably, you know, winning the Super Bowl,

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<v Speaker 16>there's probably some kind of a premium on that. One

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<v Speaker 16>of the great conversations I had with somebody was like,

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<v Speaker 16>you know, what, were Eli Manning or Joe Flack, who

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<v Speaker 16>over the course of their careers those super Bowls where

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<v Speaker 16>everything And obviously they you know, made some big plays

0:32:41.720 --> 0:32:45.000
<v Speaker 16>in those Super Bowls too to win. But I think

0:32:45.040 --> 0:32:48.520
<v Speaker 16>that helps. That helps Donald low too. I feel like

0:32:48.680 --> 0:32:52.040
<v Speaker 16>people feel like with Baker Mayfield that he is probably

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<v Speaker 16>slipped a little bit last year, that it fell off

0:32:54.560 --> 0:32:56.960
<v Speaker 16>around him and he had a much harder time, and

0:32:57.040 --> 0:32:59.600
<v Speaker 16>so I think that's probably why he kind of slipped

0:32:59.600 --> 0:33:01.280
<v Speaker 16>a little bit there, and we'll see what happens this year.

0:33:01.320 --> 0:33:04.640
<v Speaker 16>Doesn't really feel like Tampa's on fire either. That situation

0:33:04.680 --> 0:33:05.600
<v Speaker 16>feels valatile to me.

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<v Speaker 2>The Jalen Hurts ranking is always fascinating because if I said, hey,

0:33:11.120 --> 0:33:14.600
<v Speaker 2>you got to pick your quarterback for the postseason. Jalen

0:33:14.640 --> 0:33:16.720
<v Speaker 2>Hurts is going to be in my top five because

0:33:17.000 --> 0:33:19.640
<v Speaker 2>I've seen there, there's enough of the sample size there.

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<v Speaker 2>But why is he seventeenth on this list? In your opinion?

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<v Speaker 16>I think that it is hard to you know, it's

0:33:28.720 --> 0:33:31.080
<v Speaker 16>hard to parse out credit in football, harder than the

0:33:31.120 --> 0:33:34.000
<v Speaker 16>other ones when you have great teams around him or not.

0:33:34.120 --> 0:33:36.600
<v Speaker 16>And I think he's really done it when he's had

0:33:36.640 --> 0:33:39.040
<v Speaker 16>the best offensive line in the league. They've had a

0:33:39.040 --> 0:33:42.000
<v Speaker 16>great running game that he's a big part of, and increasingly,

0:33:42.200 --> 0:33:44.400
<v Speaker 16>you know, at least lately, they've had a really good defense.

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<v Speaker 8>So like, would the Eagles trade.

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<v Speaker 16>How many put it this way, how many players ranked

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<v Speaker 16>higher on this list would the Eagles trade Hurts for?

0:33:53.200 --> 0:33:54.120
<v Speaker 8>I think it'd be a lot of them.

0:33:55.320 --> 0:34:01.200
<v Speaker 2>Who would you trade? Okay, so Mahomes, Allen Stafford, Borough, Lamar.

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<v Speaker 16>Yep, Herbert, Oh yeah, every day of the week. Dak

0:34:08.239 --> 0:34:15.319
<v Speaker 16>probably may for sure, Yes, sure, I think so.

0:34:16.280 --> 0:34:23.880
<v Speaker 2>Jordan Love Yes, Brock perty, Caleb Williams.

0:34:25.120 --> 0:34:26.759
<v Speaker 16>I mean, Caleb, I think people would take for the

0:34:26.800 --> 0:34:30.480
<v Speaker 16>long runway in the future, you know, Purty, that depends.

0:34:30.520 --> 0:34:33.040
<v Speaker 16>I mean, some people think he's product of system to

0:34:33.120 --> 0:34:36.040
<v Speaker 16>a degree too. But we're getting you know, after that,

0:34:36.160 --> 0:34:40.400
<v Speaker 16>Jaden Daniels Darnold. I think, Laurence, this is what I

0:34:40.440 --> 0:34:43.640
<v Speaker 16>think about Jalen Hurts. Do you think how excited do

0:34:43.680 --> 0:34:45.640
<v Speaker 16>you think they are right now to sign him, to

0:34:46.120 --> 0:34:47.960
<v Speaker 16>give him a raise and a big extension.

0:34:49.960 --> 0:34:51.080
<v Speaker 2>Probably not thrilled.

0:34:52.320 --> 0:34:54.279
<v Speaker 16>And do you think he's They just picked up a

0:34:54.360 --> 0:34:58.040
<v Speaker 16>twenty twenty eight first round pick in that AJ Brown trade.

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<v Speaker 16>When they did that, my mind kind of went too.

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<v Speaker 16>I wonder how much longer Jalen Hurts is their quarterback

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<v Speaker 16>as opposed? And if Jalen Hurts were available, like, would

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<v Speaker 16>people be clamoring to get him? I mean, he would

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<v Speaker 16>make money and get a job, don't get me wrong,

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<v Speaker 16>but I don't think I'd be the same as if

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<v Speaker 16>those guys above him were.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so let's say Baker Mayfield's available and Jalen Hurts

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<v Speaker 2>same price.

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<v Speaker 16>I mean I would probably take Baker Mayfield, would you No.

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<v Speaker 16>I feel like Jalen Hurts really needs to run. It

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<v Speaker 16>needs his legs to be part of this, and I

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<v Speaker 16>don't trust that the older he gets.

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<v Speaker 8>I guess this is where I'm coming from.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I think it's fair. And you talk about

0:35:41.880 --> 0:35:44.440
<v Speaker 2>the offensive line. I get all that he has weapons,

0:35:44.880 --> 0:35:46.799
<v Speaker 2>he got a great running back. I understand all that,

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<v Speaker 2>but I have seen him on the biggest stage in

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<v Speaker 2>two Super Bowls be the best guy on the field. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>So I just I keep coming back to that, whether

0:35:57.840 --> 0:36:01.239
<v Speaker 2>that's fair or not. Oh Nicks did a great job

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<v Speaker 2>with the Broncos. You got him leading a Tier three Yeah.

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<v Speaker 16>I think he had four Tier two votes last year,

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<v Speaker 16>seven twenty one this year.

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<v Speaker 8>So that's a big jump.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 11>C J.

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<v Speaker 2>Stroud's the one that's kind of fascinating. You're just lingering

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<v Speaker 2>there at number twenty.

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<v Speaker 16>He is, and I think that it's a huge year

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<v Speaker 16>for him. They finally got him some offensive lineman. I think,

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<v Speaker 16>you know, I think that's he is one of those quarterbacks.

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<v Speaker 16>I think Herbert's in this category two where you know

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<v Speaker 16>they've taken some hits and you get a feeling sometimes

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<v Speaker 16>watching them that it's affecting them even maybe when the

0:36:37.600 --> 0:36:39.600
<v Speaker 16>rush isn't there, and you can kind of get a

0:36:39.640 --> 0:36:40.239
<v Speaker 16>syndrome as a.

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<v Speaker 8>Quarterback where it's hard to pull out of that.

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<v Speaker 16>And I think this is a really big year for

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<v Speaker 16>both of those quarterbacks to kind of feel comfortable again,

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<v Speaker 16>feel good again, and Shrouds clearly has it in him,

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<v Speaker 16>but they have not had an offensive line. And it

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<v Speaker 16>doesn't mean it's all the line's fault, but I think

0:36:57.960 --> 0:37:02.080
<v Speaker 16>we've seen without one, he has a hard time kind

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<v Speaker 16>of beating the pressure, beating the defense with his anticipation

0:37:06.160 --> 0:37:09.160
<v Speaker 16>in the quick, confident throws that we've seen some of

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<v Speaker 16>the other quarterbacks be able to make.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm federally mandated to ask you about Shador Sanders. You

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<v Speaker 2>have him as the thirty fifth ranked quarterback.

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<v Speaker 8>Out of thirty five.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so is this just kind of an incomplete that

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<v Speaker 2>we're not We're still not sure what we have here.

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<v Speaker 16>It's worse than that because thirty seven of the voters

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<v Speaker 16>put him in tier four. To be in Tier four,

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<v Speaker 16>you're either you know, somebody you wouldn't want to go

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<v Speaker 16>to the whole season with. It could be like a

0:37:40.120 --> 0:37:42.520
<v Speaker 16>Jacoby Brissette, right, we sort of know what he is

0:37:42.920 --> 0:37:45.120
<v Speaker 16>and we don't we want to get a different guy.

0:37:45.600 --> 0:37:48.720
<v Speaker 16>Or tier four can be the guy's barely started any games,

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<v Speaker 16>you know, let's put him in tier four, so you

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<v Speaker 16>could give Shaudre some of that. But he got twelve

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<v Speaker 16>in Tier five. I that's the most of anyone in here.

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<v Speaker 7>JD.

0:37:56.120 --> 0:37:57.160
<v Speaker 8>McCarthy got ten.

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<v Speaker 16>So that's five is like not a starter period, and

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<v Speaker 16>so people really, you know, question his you know, some

0:38:04.880 --> 0:38:08.640
<v Speaker 16>of the satistical ability, you know, and then just his

0:38:08.760 --> 0:38:11.640
<v Speaker 16>his accuracy. People didn't feel like was very good at

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<v Speaker 16>all last year, so you know it, in my mind,

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<v Speaker 16>I also wonder like, okay, do people not like him too?

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<v Speaker 16>You know, just his his attitude, his approach, his pedigree,

0:38:24.440 --> 0:38:26.080
<v Speaker 16>lack of a better word, just coming up the way

0:38:26.080 --> 0:38:30.520
<v Speaker 16>he did. I don't think that probably helps him, no.

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<v Speaker 2>And then your dad shows up in training camp and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, ESPN just spends hours and hours on shoot

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<v Speaker 2>or Sanders and I understand the name, I understand the clicks,

0:38:42.360 --> 0:38:47.480
<v Speaker 2>but if you look at production versus clicks, he would

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<v Speaker 2>be a Tier one quarterback totally.

0:38:51.600 --> 0:38:52.799
<v Speaker 8>He's a Tier one clicker, you know.

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<v Speaker 16>So I think he has some value that way, But

0:38:56.000 --> 0:38:59.040
<v Speaker 16>people didn't see a whole lot to build on last year.

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<v Speaker 2>Ever, hear from a quarterback after they've dropped on your list.

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<v Speaker 8>Uh, that's interesting. I say.

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<v Speaker 16>The highlight was this a number of years ago, when

0:39:11.239 --> 0:39:14.719
<v Speaker 16>Philip Rivers was giving a one of those off the

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<v Speaker 16>field pressers. You know, all the media is standing around him,

0:39:17.160 --> 0:39:19.600
<v Speaker 16>and I wasn't there, and yeah, I knew him a

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<v Speaker 16>little bit, but he said, yea, I gotta watch out.

0:39:22.200 --> 0:39:23.880
<v Speaker 16>I'll be following, you know, watch out, I'll be following

0:39:23.880 --> 0:39:26.080
<v Speaker 16>in Sando's tears or something. And I thought, hey, that

0:39:26.160 --> 0:39:27.680
<v Speaker 16>kind of made my day. You know, my kids were

0:39:27.719 --> 0:39:30.160
<v Speaker 16>impressionable at the age at that time, and so that

0:39:30.280 --> 0:39:33.080
<v Speaker 16>was probably the best, the best reference that I got

0:39:33.080 --> 0:39:34.000
<v Speaker 16>that I found out about.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know what Aaron Rodgers is going to

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<v Speaker 2>think about being there in Tier three, Mike.

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<v Speaker 8>I would love to I'd love to hear it from

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<v Speaker 8>and I kind of agree.

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<v Speaker 16>I mean, one of the quotes I used in there

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<v Speaker 16>from someone in the league was like, you're not taking

0:39:47.120 --> 0:39:48.640
<v Speaker 16>him over some of these other guys. I mean, just

0:39:48.640 --> 0:39:51.360
<v Speaker 16>for his ability to throw and run the offense that

0:39:51.560 --> 0:39:53.560
<v Speaker 16>said doesn't look the way that.

0:39:53.560 --> 0:39:54.239
<v Speaker 8>It used to look like.

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<v Speaker 2>Here, thanks for providing programming for a lot of shows

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<v Speaker 2>across America this week. We appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 16>I appreciate you having me on. And congrats too. I

0:40:04.880 --> 0:40:08.080
<v Speaker 16>know you're in the victory lap here, congrats on everything.

0:40:08.080 --> 0:40:10.279
<v Speaker 16>It's an honor to be here.

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<v Speaker 2>And don't you're gonna try to embarrass me and maybe

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<v Speaker 2>nominate me, you know, for somebody contributor to the Pro

0:40:17.680 --> 0:40:20.759
<v Speaker 2>Football Hall of Fame. I mean, if you want to,

0:40:21.160 --> 0:40:25.480
<v Speaker 2>you can. But if it makes you happy, Yeah, if

0:40:25.520 --> 0:40:26.920
<v Speaker 2>it makes you happy, then fine.

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<v Speaker 16>Well, you know, the Belichick omission went over so well,

0:40:29.840 --> 0:40:31.799
<v Speaker 16>I think, you know, I think probably putting you in

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<v Speaker 16>over him would be a good first start.

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<v Speaker 8>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, how did that happen?

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<v Speaker 8>So that story. I've been on the committee for fifteen.

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<v Speaker 16>Years, and there's been a number of times where I like,

0:40:45.560 --> 0:40:48.040
<v Speaker 16>I get frustrated because you can't make people think the

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<v Speaker 16>way you think, right, And I'm like, oh, what we

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<v Speaker 16>found out on this is they changed the voting so

0:40:53.719 --> 0:40:57.880
<v Speaker 16>that you had three senior candidates, guys are retired twenty

0:40:57.880 --> 0:41:01.719
<v Speaker 16>five years from playing. You had a coach, and you

0:41:01.760 --> 0:41:05.560
<v Speaker 16>had a contributor. Contributors like an owner. There's people on

0:41:05.600 --> 0:41:10.160
<v Speaker 16>that committee that it's like their religion to get the

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<v Speaker 16>seniors in.

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, and so these people, you had to pick three

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<v Speaker 8>of those five.

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<v Speaker 16>On the final ballot, they picked they just spanned the seniors,

0:41:17.840 --> 0:41:21.120
<v Speaker 16>picked all seniors, leaving off Belichick because they feel like

0:41:21.160 --> 0:41:23.040
<v Speaker 16>if these seniors don't make it, they'll never make it

0:41:23.760 --> 0:41:27.040
<v Speaker 16>and I just that just really irritated to me. That's

0:41:27.120 --> 0:41:29.360
<v Speaker 16>like taking the process into your own hands, making it

0:41:29.440 --> 0:41:32.239
<v Speaker 16>about yourself. You have to step back and evaluate these five.

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<v Speaker 16>We can worry about the process later you don't like it,

0:41:34.360 --> 0:41:36.919
<v Speaker 16>then work to change it. But you have to put

0:41:36.960 --> 0:41:39.959
<v Speaker 16>the best people in, and Belichick is so I.

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<v Speaker 8>Was very embarrassed.

0:41:42.480 --> 0:41:48.000
<v Speaker 2>Belichick stinted North Carolina, hurt his chances at all first

0:41:48.080 --> 0:41:48.960
<v Speaker 2>ballot or.

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<v Speaker 16>Pro Football Hall of Fame, pro you know. I mean, look,

0:41:52.000 --> 0:41:54.719
<v Speaker 16>it doesn't help anybody when they go somewhere else and fail.

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<v Speaker 16>But come on, I mean the body of work as

0:41:58.800 --> 0:42:01.080
<v Speaker 16>a head coach and before that as an assistant coach.

0:42:01.320 --> 0:42:03.520
<v Speaker 16>I mean, he's the standard in a lot of ways.

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<v Speaker 16>And so I don't know when you look at some

0:42:08.000 --> 0:42:10.560
<v Speaker 16>of the coaches they've put in. I wasn't always on

0:42:10.960 --> 0:42:13.239
<v Speaker 16>the coach committee in these years. I'm gonna, but I

0:42:13.280 --> 0:42:16.160
<v Speaker 16>was like, how can you put some of those guys

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<v Speaker 16>in and not have Belichick skate in?

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<v Speaker 2>I have no idea Mike Tomlin did enough to be

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<v Speaker 2>a Hall of Fame coach.

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<v Speaker 8>That'll be interesting. Yeah, I think he'll.

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<v Speaker 16>I think he'll be in the room and he'll be

0:42:29.040 --> 0:42:32.120
<v Speaker 16>the coaching finalist at some point, and then it depends

0:42:32.160 --> 0:42:34.680
<v Speaker 16>really what the format is, who he has to compete

0:42:34.680 --> 0:42:37.399
<v Speaker 16>against on the final ballot. Will he be over able

0:42:37.440 --> 0:42:40.600
<v Speaker 16>to overcome players? I don't think so, and we've seen that.

0:42:40.600 --> 0:42:42.680
<v Speaker 16>That's one of the reasons they created a lane, a

0:42:42.760 --> 0:42:44.640
<v Speaker 16>coach's lane. But it feels to me like some of

0:42:44.640 --> 0:42:48.640
<v Speaker 16>this structure and processes in flux. Maybe they're waiting till

0:42:48.680 --> 0:42:52.400
<v Speaker 16>after the ceremony to not distract from it, you know,

0:42:52.440 --> 0:42:54.600
<v Speaker 16>with Larry Fitzgerald and Drew Brees and those guys going

0:42:54.680 --> 0:42:58.000
<v Speaker 16>in Luke Keigley. But I feel like there's they're going

0:42:58.080 --> 0:43:00.920
<v Speaker 16>to evolve, maybe the committee or the handles, some different

0:43:00.920 --> 0:43:03.640
<v Speaker 16>people something after what happened last year, and then that

0:43:03.640 --> 0:43:06.640
<v Speaker 16>will determine whether at Tomlin has a chance. I would

0:43:06.680 --> 0:43:08.719
<v Speaker 16>say right now it would be very difficult for him,

0:43:08.960 --> 0:43:09.600
<v Speaker 16>very difficult.

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<v Speaker 2>Great stuff as always, Mike, thanks for joining us.

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<v Speaker 8>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Mike Sando, senior NFL writer for The Athletic and

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<v Speaker 2>his Quarterback Tears. His thirteenth annual survey ranking all the

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<v Speaker 2>quarterbacks there