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Speaker 1: What is going on? Everybody? John Middlecoff Freeing Out Podcast,

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Speaker 1: What is up Monday Afternoon? Just hit record? I Am ready, Ready,

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Speaker 1: Freddie Baby. A lot going on pack show there. There

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Speaker 1: is just there's a lot happening right now. Thoughts on

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Speaker 1: the teams that advanced, some Rodgers Brady, some of the

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Speaker 1: coaching hires that have gone on the last couple of days,

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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, drama bills, Goth McVeigh, need marriage counseling that

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Speaker 1: ain't good, and the combine makes me sad has been canceled. Gosh.

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Speaker 1: I will dive into that and some of the actual

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Speaker 1: football implications, not just you know, me out hanging out

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Speaker 1: and talking to coach read and you know some of

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Speaker 1: the uh the super Bowl champ or whatever like I

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Speaker 1: did last year, that's not gonna happen this year. So

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Speaker 1: that sucks. I love Indie, but it's gonna have a

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Speaker 1: pretty big ramifications on the league like that. A lot

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Speaker 1: of business gets done there, so we'll dive into that.

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Speaker 1: Also d MS wide open at John Middlecoff. We answer

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Speaker 1: Middlecoff Instagram handle fire on in there and you get

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Speaker 1: your question answered. Let's start with the weekend and I

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Speaker 1: think this will never change and I think it symbolizes

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Speaker 1: all the teams that won this weekend. Aggressive people in

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Speaker 1: America consistently win. People that are not afraid to take

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Speaker 1: big swings for what they want make it big in

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Speaker 1: this country, in any industry, in any business. Now that

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Speaker 1: does not mean that every big swing you take works.

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Speaker 1: But if your mindset is to think big and swing

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Speaker 1: for offenses, you're going to be successful sooner than later.

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Speaker 1: Obviously you have to have, you know, in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: a good coach, a good quarterback. But if that is

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Speaker 1: your mindset aggressiveness, you're gonna be okay. If your mindset

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Speaker 1: in life is to say, in the slow lane, a

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Speaker 1: hand side, and you're gonna get left. Now, it's safe

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Speaker 1: there's a reason the apples hang on the branches because

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Speaker 1: it's easy to hang on the base of the tree.

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Speaker 1: The actions on the edges, and I think all the

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Speaker 1: teams that won this weekend all symbolize being aggressive. All

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Speaker 1: symbolized pedal to the metal, not afraid to fail, taking

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Speaker 1: big swings. Look at the Chiefs, the way all that

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Speaker 1: But it was way before that. Coach Free has always

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Speaker 1: just know the way Andy and Beachs think and that

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Speaker 1: know what it turned out? That move was that move

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Speaker 1: The Chiefs, the Bills, the Packers, the Bucks, all in

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Speaker 1: when it comes to knowing how to defend the passing

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Speaker 1: and create matchups. So I mean lou who has been

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Speaker 1: around the league a long time. Monday Night Football interviews

428
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Speaker 1: all these guys, and I've talked to him a lot

429
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Speaker 1: off the record. Thinks really highly of him, and I

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Speaker 1: listen to an interview we deal with Peter King. Brandon

431
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,600
Speaker 1: Stanley is a smart guy, like there's no disputing it.

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Speaker 1: And I watching the league this weekend. You have Kyle

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Speaker 1: head coach, Mcveigah head coach, Laflora head coach solo now

434
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Speaker 1: head coach bringing La Fleur, Mike McDaniels moved up. Young

435
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Speaker 1: guys are dominating this league. Young guys are all over

436
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Speaker 1: this league. People want these young guys that have been

437
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:09,359
Speaker 1: associated kind of with that Shanahan tree. I mean Mike

438
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,920
Speaker 1: that that crew that he had in Washington. All the guys,

439
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 1: they are pretty highly thought of. And Robert Solid for example,

440
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,640
Speaker 1: was not in that tree, but Kyle hired him and

441
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 1: he became a head coach four years later and he's

442
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Speaker 1: been interviewing the last two years. Sean McVeigh, Brandon Sayla

443
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 1: clearly wasn't in that tree. Either hires him one year boom,

444
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Speaker 1: he's gone. So if you have the touch and there

445
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 1: is I don't want to say there is a little

446
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Speaker 1: media creation. There's a media hype to a to a coach,

447
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 1: just like there is with a player. But definitely do

448
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Speaker 1: a coach because I do think coaches don't care about

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00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 1: media hype. With players, they just evaluated off the tape

450
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 1: and what they think on their own scheme. With hiring, though,

451
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:57,160
Speaker 1: the media cycle helps. The articles help, people talking about

452
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Speaker 1: you on podcast you know, help they just do or

453
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,680
Speaker 1: radio shows or whatever. That's what That's what these owners

454
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 1: listen to and listen. I'm not saying this why Dean

455
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 1: Spanos did it, but I don't think there's ever been

456
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Speaker 1: an owner in the modern day that likes his savings

457
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Speaker 1: account as much as Dean. Brandon Staley is probably not

458
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Speaker 1: that expensive. You know, if he cost five million dollars,

459
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 1: urban's probably about twelve. Uh. He might be able to

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Speaker 1: keep his offensive staff. We'll see. So I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: he made the higher for you know, financial reasons, but

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Speaker 1: he's not an expensive coach. I don't think he had

463
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Speaker 1: that much leverage. It's risky higher unlike Detroit Lions with

464
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Speaker 1: Matt Campbell, places a disaster, no talent quarterback more than

465
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 1: likely probably wants out. You just gotta blow the thing

466
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Speaker 1: up and start from scratch. They're also ain't they're not

467
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Speaker 1: expectations the Charger job, it's gotta be one of the

468
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Speaker 1: better jobs in recent memory to come open. They have

469
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Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback that just shattered the touchdown record, they

470
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Speaker 1: have talented players all over the roster under contra act.

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Speaker 1: It's a massive market, yet there's not big expectations because

472
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Speaker 1: the market doesn't care. It's a bigger brand nationally than

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Speaker 1: it is locally. The division you know, beside the Chiefs

474
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 1: is wide open. It's a really good job. Brandon Staley,

475
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Speaker 1: I don't know if he's a religious guy or not,

476
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Speaker 1: should just say some thanks because as a first time

477
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Speaker 1: head coach to get a job that already has a

478
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Speaker 1: young quarterback, already has a bunch of talent, and Tom

479
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 1: talasco is a pretty good GM, he doesn't have to

480
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Speaker 1: worry about being a GM because a coach team, if

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Speaker 1: Brandon Staley is a good coaches team wins taying games

482
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Speaker 1: next year. No if fans or bust are about it,

483
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Speaker 1: but there's no telling that he's going to be a

484
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Speaker 1: more dynamic game manager or understand you know stuff that

485
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:51,919
Speaker 1: Anthony Lyndon't. They don't know. No one knows. It's a

486
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Speaker 1: It's a very very risky proposition for the Chargers, given

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Speaker 1: how much they have on the line. I've been saying

488
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Speaker 1: over and over, if Dean makes the right higher here

489
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 1: and they get the right coach, they could be a

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Speaker 1: playoff team for the foreseeable future. They have the guy

491
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Speaker 1: that's talented enough at quarterback and enough guys on the

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Speaker 1: roster to play with the Chiefs and the Bills and

493
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 1: the Ravens like they have that type talent. But they're

494
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Speaker 1: hiring your coach who's been in the league since two

495
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Speaker 1: thousand and seventeen, who's a defensive coordinator, did play college quarterback,

496
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Speaker 1: who everyone I know thinks really highly of him, really smart.

497
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 1: Vic Fangio clearly created his career, hired him as his

498
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Speaker 1: linebacker coach, you know, five years ago or four years ago.

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Speaker 1: Let's ask him a lot. You know, like when Sean

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Speaker 1: McVeigh got a job, he had been in the league

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Speaker 1: for a decade, When Kyle Shanahan got hired at thirty four,

502
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 1: thirty five or whatever, he had been coaching the league

503
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Speaker 1: for like fourteen years. Even Matt Lafleur would have been

504
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 1: in the NFL for a while. Robert Salid just became

505
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Speaker 1: a head coach. He was on the Houston Texans staff

506
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 1: like twelve years ago. He had been in the league

507
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Speaker 1: a little while. This guy has not been in the

508
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Speaker 1: NFL that long. He was at John Carroll University in

509
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Speaker 1: two thousand sixteen, not that long ago. So I do

510
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 1: think it's fair just to ask some questions. But at

511
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Speaker 1: the same time, like, who's ever truly ready for a

512
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:18,919
Speaker 1: big opportunity? Nobody. I think the guy is smart and

513
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 1: the team is definitely talented enough for to be up,

514
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: you know, somewhat of a smooth landing spot for the guy. Okay,

515
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 1: you know. The Deshaun Watson topic, trade rumors buzz is

516
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,959
Speaker 1: only picking up steam, and the more and more information

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Speaker 1: I take in here is just my baseline take before

518
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Speaker 1: we even get you know, put it this way, they

519
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 1: don't have a coach. The Houston Texans do not have

520
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Speaker 1: a coach. No decision is gonna get made on de

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Speaker 1: Shaun Watson until they hire a coach. I would imagine

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Speaker 1: when that coach is hired, he has a discussion and

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Speaker 1: with Shaun Watson. Now, anytime you bring in new administration

524
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Speaker 1: in any walk of life. It could be Apple, it

525
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: could be Amazon, it could be a podcast company, it

526
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 1: could be an NFL team, and you bring in new management,

527
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 1: they're gonna have some new ideas. Now. I'm also a

528
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 1: believer that just because you're new someplace and in charge,

529
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Speaker 1: you don't have to hit blow it up immediately. I

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Speaker 1: love it when coaches get to a place in the

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Speaker 1: NFL and keep a lot of the good core players,

532
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Speaker 1: even if they weren't having success before, and they go,

533
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 1: I can make this work, and then they do. Happens

534
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 1: all the time. It's Jim Harbaugh, show up with forty Niners,

535
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 1: keep all the guys a kick ass. When Andy Reid

536
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 1: got to Kansas City, you know that the guys he

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Speaker 1: won with, Tom Bali, Derrick Johnson, justin Houston, Don Terry Poe,

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00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 1: Jamal Charles think all the guys that are on the

539
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Speaker 1: roster that he just won with immediately, right, Like, you

540
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 1: don't always need to just hit the reset button. And

541
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Speaker 1: sometimes they do that, and the Patriot way often does

542
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Speaker 1: that because I think the Patriots look at football kind

543
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: of like I do, like an economic exercise. They go,

544
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 1: what is every player worth? What is he worth to us,

545
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 1: what is he worth on the open market, and what

546
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 1: is he worth in the structure of our team because

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00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 1: the setting of our team and cause Serio did not

548
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 1: create their cap situation, there no pick situation. He inherited

549
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 1: all that and technically he inherited Deshaun Watson's drama to

550
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 1: not his fault. But if he looks at it objectively,

551
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 1: which I'd say the New England Patriots do the best

552
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 1: job of doing that. It doesn't always work, but they

553
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 1: are very unemotional when it comes to the team, right.

554
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 1: They just do what's best for the team, the team,

555
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 1: the team, the team, and you go, well, we don't

556
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: have any picks, we don't have any money, and we

557
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: suck our quarterback just arguably the best season of his

558
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 1: career and we were terrible. Now, I'm not blaming Deshaun Watson.

559
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 1: I've said that the last couple of weeks. But I'm

560
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 1: just putting myself in his shoes. Could we get like

561
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 1: three picks, multiple ones, a two and a quarterback. Now,

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00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if I do that, but I just

563
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 1: they could talk themselves into it. What if they go,

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00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 1: let's trade him to the to the Dolphins. I don't

565
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 1: like to. Uh. I wouldn't do this, But let's assume

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Speaker 1: that he likes to. UH. You give us to uh,

567
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: you give us our pickback, and you give us another

568
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: one and a two. So now we have two ones

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Speaker 1: a too. Tah. We get rid of Deshaun, who's not

570
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 1: happy here, and let's say we also trade J. J. Watton,

571
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Speaker 1: we get a second. Now we can just kind of

572
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 1: start to rebuild from scratch. Now, me personally, I would

573
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Speaker 1: try to make it work with de Shaun Watson. I

574
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Speaker 1: would try to talk him into it. But I think

575
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 1: you could take a step back and go by the

576
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: time that we're able to be competitive, which is not

577
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 1: gonna be for a couple of years because we don't

578
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: have any assets to get competitive, right, we don't have

579
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: first round picks, we don't have any money. How do

580
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: we really improve our team? You know, Deshaun could be

581
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,479
Speaker 1: years old, it could be a couple of years, so

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Speaker 1: we could even meet in the middle with him. Listen,

583
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 1: our team's gonna suck, We're gonna blow it up. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna trade you, We're gonna use leverage, and we're gonna

585
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Speaker 1: have an open bidding process. We're not just gonna give

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Speaker 1: him to one of our friends, whoever offers us to

587
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 1: the best deal, and we trade them. Because if it

588
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 1: was any normal coach, I'd go, I don't see it.

589
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: I doubt that happens. But because it's a patriot, and

590
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 1: not just a normal patriot, because Stereo has been there

591
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 1: for twenty years, because Sterio's six rings. So every single

592
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 1: player now, including Tom eighty, he's seen cut leaving free agency, traded.

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00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 1: He's seen him all. Every single one of the famous

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Speaker 1: players over the years he's played, not not necessarily maybe

595
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 1: a role in them getting traded, but had a firsthand

596
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 1: experience and watch it happened to the team, whether he

597
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 1: was coaching on the team, whether he was in personnel,

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00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: whether he was like the GM kind of what he's been.

599
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Speaker 1: I know he's not the GM, but you know what

600
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Speaker 1: I mean, like Belichick's right hand guy. That's his experience.

601
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Speaker 1: So if he wants to win and he gets his

602
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:32,719
Speaker 1: five year deal with a lot of money, what if

603
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 1: he's thinking, well, let's press reset, just like my friends,

604
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 1: I don't know, Brian Flores and the Dolphins did and

605
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: blow it up. Now, what's different is you don't get

606
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 1: rid of a quarterback. I think it's pretty dumb, but

607
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 1: I do think it's possible and plausible. There are multiple

608
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Speaker 1: teams that are drafting in the top three. I think

609
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 1: the Dolphins makes some sense, the Jets makes some sense.

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00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah had a good tweet. He's like, the Jets

611
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 1: basically have five first rounders the next three years. They

612
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: could trade three first rounders and still have to and

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00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: maybe trade them Donald. What if it costs two first

614
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 1: rounders Donald in a second? What if they did something

615
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: like that. I don't know. I'm just you just understand

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00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 1: now again back to my original statement, they do not

617
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Speaker 1: have a coach that they're not gonna make any move

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00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 1: until they get a coach in there. They assemble a

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Speaker 1: staff and they talk it out. You would be moronic

620
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: to do that. The point of football is to work

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00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 1: as a group and as a team. The general manager

622
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: and the coach are in cahots together. They're going to

623
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: rise or fall as a unit. They're married. They're connected

624
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 1: at the hip in terms of their success. Now, I

625
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 1: don't doesn't mean sometimes with firings and hirings they're not

626
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,240
Speaker 1: always connected there, but in terms of when they're working together,

627
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 1: their success is directly correlated. You want to pick good players,

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Speaker 1: You want your coach to coach guys. You want your

629
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Speaker 1: coach to influence the guys you pick. You want you

630
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 1: to understand the type guys your coaches looking for. So

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Speaker 1: I gotta see who they hire, and I'll be honest,

632
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 1: I got no clue. None, have absolutely no clue who

633
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 1: they're gonna hire. None Jack Easterby gonna coach the team?

634
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: Maybe what's that situation? There is clearly multiple people out

635
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 1: to get Jack Easterby. It's not even you can't even

636
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 1: be argued at this point. The hit pieces that are

637
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: coming out on this guy an axe to grind feels

638
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 1: like an understatement. People have bazookas out are trying to

639
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: take this dude down. This guy is not liked by

640
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,399
Speaker 1: not it doesn't even feel just like people that were

641
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: in the building. But guys that are still around players

642
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,720
Speaker 1: are leaking stuff. It's getting weird. There were also stuff

643
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:45,839
Speaker 1: leaked I think last week about two I talked about

644
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: it last week about some of the players on his

645
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: own team didn't think he's good enough. There's a there's

646
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: a lot of weird stuff going on between the Dolphins

647
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,760
Speaker 1: the Texans I'd even say the Jets, But the Jets

648
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: have stable leadership now, they have a new coach, and

649
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 1: they have a general manager that I think knows what

650
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 1: he's doing now. I don't know what they think of

651
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:09,959
Speaker 1: Sam Donald la Flour's brothers now the offensive coordinator there. Uh.

652
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: I assume he kind of like Sam Donald, but I

653
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: assumed that Deshaun Watson they like him more so. I

654
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: just it's gonna get very interesting and I don't know

655
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 1: where this is gonna go. But I think a lot

656
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 1: of the hype is much more media hype right now

657
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:28,320
Speaker 1: in Twitter hype than reality. Because until I hire a coaches,

658
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: case Ario and I sit down and we talk the

659
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 1: freaking team and what our vision is and what the

660
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 1: plan is part of. Once Flora's got to Miami, they

661
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: sat down, they mapped it out, and they got their

662
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: big picture vision. But it doesn't happen overnight. I mean,

663
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 1: you have an idea going into the job, but then

664
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: you're gonna spend weeks in meetings talking it out, figuring

665
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 1: it out, and then going from there. I like these

666
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 1: rumors as much as anybody. I mean, I can talk

667
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: about them all day long, but to think that they're

668
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:04,879
Speaker 1: like some concrete plan already with no head coach. It's

669
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: just flat out not true. Okay, let's get to Goth

670
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 1: and McVeigh. This story is interesting. Steve Wish of the

671
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 1: NFL Network reported on Monday that Goth and mcveigh's relationship

672
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: needs marriage counseling. And let's back it up. We had

673
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: in the Seattle game. It turns out Sean McVeigh believed

674
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 1: John Walford, a a f quarterback, gave them a better

675
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: chance to win than Jared Goff. And you could be

676
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 1: like middle Coff. He had a broken thumb, he dressed

677
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 1: out and he was available, and Jared Goff told Mike

678
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 1: Silver after the game it was hard pill to swallow

679
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,879
Speaker 1: that he went with the other guy. Then after this

680
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 1: game against the Packers, I guess within the last couple

681
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 1: of days, maybe he said this today. I don't know.

682
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 1: I haven't kept up with the Rams press conference. Is

683
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 1: that Jared Goss not a lot to be the starter

684
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: next year? And then Wise comes out with like they're

685
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 1: gonna need marriage counseling. I've never been married. I've known

686
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 1: a lot of people that have gone to counseling, and

687
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: I know that a lot of people that ended up

688
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: getting a divorce. In my opinion, if you go to counseling,

689
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 1: there are some things that are fixable. Right, if you're

690
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 1: anyone that's better in a relationship knows this, you can

691
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 1: improve certain things that you're significant other wants, right, which

692
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 1: he says things help around the house, whatever the thing is,

693
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 1: whatever the thing is that's bothering her, you can beat

694
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 1: in the middle, and vice versa goes for her too.

695
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 1: There are things that we can do, whether it's helping

696
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 1: with the kids, whether it's making dinner when she's working,

697
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 1: whether it's being more loving, I don't know. Whatever the

698
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: thing is that drove you to counseling, there are possibilities

699
00:38:56,040 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 1: for you to improve. Right. The thing with football where

700
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:05,320
Speaker 1: counseling would have a problem, And I'm gonna assume Jared

701
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: goth works hard, shows up early, because if McVeigh is

702
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 1: mad about that, which I've never heard anything about Goff's

703
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 1: work ethic in a negative light. If that's the case,

704
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,919
Speaker 1: that would be something that can improve. But if it's

705
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 1: football stuff, like if if John McVeigh goes, you know what,

706
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: if he's talking to the counselor I want a guy

707
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: that can run faster. I want a guy that's more mobile.

708
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 1: I want a guy with a stronger arm. I want

709
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:40,760
Speaker 1: a guy who's more of a playmaker. No chance, they're fucked.

710
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: That is not possible to improve. Those are things that

711
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,959
Speaker 1: a counselor cannot change. When it comes to Jared Goth,

712
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: his physical attributes are set. They are not changing. And

713
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 1: unlike a marriage, like if they need to go to marry,

714
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 1: you know, part of a marriage, you get a divorce

715
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: at any moment now, depending on your assets, the kids,

716
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 1: the money, and get complicated, but you can get a

717
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 1: divorce the day after you get married, fifty years after

718
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 1: you get married. You get a divorce whenever you want,

719
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 1: whenever you want. In the NFL, you can't get a

720
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:22,800
Speaker 1: divorce whenever you want, because when you sign a massive contract,

721
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 1: the money is you know, is set over a period

722
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: of years. If it's a five year contract, they amortize

723
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 1: it over that period in just different ways with a

724
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 1: signing bonus, So it impacts your cap different years at

725
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 1: different amounts, and the rams are on the hook with

726
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 1: this guy for the next couple of years. There is

727
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:48,439
Speaker 1: no getting a divorce. So if the marriage counseling with

728
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:52,439
Speaker 1: this couple which is Goth and McVeigh is dependent on

729
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: Goth physically changing, because I say that's one thing at

730
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 1: least in marriage, like hey, I want you you're fat.

731
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 1: I want you to eat better, Like technically you could

732
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 1: just eat better, right, But with Jared Goff, it's like

733
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 1: you're slow. We ain't getting any faster. Your arm stinks, Well,

734
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 1: it is what it is to me. If it's anything

735
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: like hey, I needed to be a better teammate, I

736
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,359
Speaker 1: needed to be more assertive, those would be things that, yes,

737
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 1: he can improve on. And maybe Golf's like I need

738
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 1: him to communicate better to me. I need him to

739
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 1: be nicer to me. I'd be like, okay, now we're

740
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 1: we can counsel, right, if I'm a marriage counselor if

741
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 1: I'm a football counselor here, I need you guys to

742
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,359
Speaker 1: have a better working relationship. We can work on that.

743
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 1: Here's the problem. I think a lot of times when

744
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: you get divorces, there is no overcoming, Like I just

745
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:49,399
Speaker 1: don't like you anymore. I think you're lazy. I don't

746
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 1: like spending time with you. So we can work on

747
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 1: those things. You can show me you're more ambitious. I

748
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 1: think how many couples you know in your life that

749
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 1: are like that? They tried. Once it gets down to

750
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 1: a certain point, it's over. There is no coming back from.

751
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 1: I think it's that way with Sean McVeigh. How could

752
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh again, assuming that it's not the vocal, that

753
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 1: it's play based. His play was terrible. He looks awful,

754
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 1: He looks like a backup. How does Sean McVeigh forget that?

755
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 1: And it's it's physically he's not that gifted. Someone tweets

756
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 1: tweeted at me GoF for Wentz who says, no, the Eagles,

757
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 1: do you know how fast Carson Wentz? Or I mean

758
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,720
Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh would straight up trade Jared Goff for Carson

759
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: Wentz just just to work with a more physically gifted

760
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 1: guy in that offense. He would do that yesterday. He

761
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 1: would drive Jared Goff to Philadelphia. So if this is

762
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 1: based on physical tools, which I'd be hard pressed to

763
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 1: think it wasn't, and you'd go, well, John, he was

764
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 1: there when they signed the big deal. Well, he was

765
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 1: in his early thirties. He hasn't been a coach in

766
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 1: that for that long. To me, I'm putting this one

767
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 1: on less need, which less need? What happened? Drafted him

768
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,359
Speaker 1: number one overall, traded a bunch of picks for him.

769
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 1: Then he got good under Sean McVeigh. What do you

770
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 1: like doing? If you're a general manager, you like signing

771
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 1: the guys you draft because you look smart. The problem

772
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: with Jared Goff is his physical tools are just limited.

773
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 1: And Sean McVeigh is an excellent coach, and the whole

774
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 1: team looks good except this guy, and you just go,

775
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 1: what's his deal to me? And if you're Jared Goff,

776
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 1: the moment you're you're healthy enough to play with the

777
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: messed up thumb in that playoff game against Seattle, a

778
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: team that you've played, you know, however eight ten times

779
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 1: in your career, right, you've helped lead this team to

780
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 1: a super Bowl. He goes with John Walford. I'll even

781
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 1: take his side. Hey, bro, I broke my thumb. I

782
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,879
Speaker 1: can barely move it. I'm ready to go. You're going

783
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 1: with a dude from the A a f who was undrafted.

784
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 1: It would be one thing, right if your backup quarterback

785
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: was like it was like a Nick Foles type, you know,

786
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 1: it was like a Marcus Mariotta Jamis Winston, a guy

787
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 1: that had some success, the guy that was drafted. I

788
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 1: you go with John Wofford. So if I'm Jared Gofflin,

789
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 1: how how do I look at him the same and

790
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 1: let me play mcveig side again? Well, Jared, I went

791
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: with John Watford because I couldn't stand to watch you

792
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 1: throw another football. We played the Jets three weeks ago

793
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: or two weeks ago, and you were god awful. We're

794
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 1: playing the Jets and we got our ass kicked and

795
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,399
Speaker 1: you were terrible. I can't take you seriously after that

796
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,320
Speaker 1: my personal opinion without I don't know that many details,

797
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 1: but I follow the rams relatively closely because I consume

798
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 1: a ton of NFC West football. This is a divorce

799
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 1: that would one percent happened if the contract allowed it.

800
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: Mcveigh's done, and honestly, goff might not like him anymore,

801
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: but they're stuck together, and i'd imagine some of you know, hell,

802
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 1: maybe you're happy to your parents, whether it's happening to

803
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 1: brothers and sisters, whether it's happened to close friends. When

804
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 1: people that are in a relationship that's over but they

805
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:23,839
Speaker 1: stay together, it usually gets pretty ugly and they don't

806
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 1: the divorce is not an option here. He's not a

807
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 1: tradeable player, so marriage counseling I don't see it working

808
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 1: in this situation. Okay, let's get to the last story

809
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 1: of the day. And it hurts, it stings. It's the

810
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 1: NFL Combine has been canceled and not gonna lie. I've

811
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 1: been two of the last three years. Last year was awesome.

812
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 1: Got to drink Rabel had Andy on the podcast. Sean

813
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 1: McDermott on the podcast. You know, if you if you

814
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 1: want to make the an f C Championship games, just

815
00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 1: come on the come on three and out. It's just

816
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 1: I get so much good information going out with my

817
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 1: buddies talking different people in the league. There's just a

818
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 1: there's an aura, there, a vibe coaches out. It's just sweet.

819
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 1: Now that's not really possible now, uh, but you know,

820
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 1: you go to the different press conferences, you get a

821
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: feel for the coaches, you get a feel for the league,

822
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,360
Speaker 1: and kind of everyone's taking a little inventory, taking a

823
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 1: deep breath and kind of put their sights on free

824
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 1: agency in the draft. And for as much as people

825
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: on the outside, I think the combines about forty times

826
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: and jumping, it's really not. Let's start first and foremost.

827
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: What is gonna be missed if I take any industry

828
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 1: and I bring all the decision makers in that industry

829
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 1: to the same town and put them in three or

830
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 1: four hotels, and I guess, unlike a lot of industries,

831
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 1: these teams trade products and assets back and forth. Right.

832
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 1: The players, Well, a huge part of the combine is

833
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 1: getting ready for free agency. It's understanding what free agents

834
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 1: are gonna cost, how much keeping my own guys are

835
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 1: gonna cost, how much any player that I want to

836
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 1: acquire is gonna cost. Any interest I have in disgruntled players,

837
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 1: what will I have to pay to trade for said player?

838
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 1: Do you know how many deals with trades get done

839
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 1: at the combine? And what do you think the reason is? That?

840
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 1: For well, GM one and GM two are sitting there

841
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 1: over a couple of coronas and you know, some steaks,

842
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 1: or they're in the hotel room just bullshitting about their

843
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 1: teams and things come up, and talking with agents and

844
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:45,280
Speaker 1: talking with other gms and talking with other coaches. Conversation

845
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 1: just creates some urgency which is already gonna happen when

846
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 1: everyone shows up the combine trying to improve your team.

847
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: All these gms are meeting with all these other gms

848
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 1: and trying to get and the agents trying to get intel,

849
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:04,319
Speaker 1: and that's when the process of everything starts. You can

850
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 1: do it over phone, which they're gonna have to do.

851
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: It's not gonna be the same. We saw a ton

852
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: of trades the last couple of years. Why because you

853
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 1: have a ton of aggressive young and maybe he's not

854
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 1: even young. It's just aggressive general managers in the league,

855
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 1: aggressive coaches. We'll give you your first round pick for

856
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 1: said player. We'll give you a two one for this player.

857
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:27,320
Speaker 1: We want to sign this free agent. How much it is

858
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: is gonna cost. You find all that out at the combine.

859
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 1: I haven't even talked about the draft prospects. I'm just

860
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 1: talking about the free agent class and the dudes on

861
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 1: other teams. And you're gonna trade for Like if Matt Stafford,

862
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 1: let's say, hypothetically, was gonna get traded, that trade would

863
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:50,720
Speaker 1: get done at the combine. The Forrest Buckner, that trade

864
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 1: like that stuff happens at the combine. Justin Jefferson, I

865
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,319
Speaker 1: guess he was drafted in the draft, but digs to

866
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:00,839
Speaker 1: the Bills like those conversations be again, they can say

867
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 1: whatever they want. You know, once the trade happens, that's

868
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 1: where they start always because we we meet everywhere you go.

869
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 1: It's like there's a couple of GMS talking, there's a

870
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:14,840
Speaker 1: couple of coaches talking. There's a coach and a GM talking.

871
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 1: There's Belichick talking with Rabel, there's Chris Ballard talking with

872
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 1: John Snyder. It's just everywhere you look. In a lot

873
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 1: of places you can't even see because they're in their

874
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 1: own rooms meeting one on one, spending time discussing that is.

875
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 1: It's like one thing and I'm not even these aren't rumors.

876
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:36,800
Speaker 1: These are actual trades that happen. It also, as a

877
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 1: GM helps you build your team because you get an

878
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: understanding of the cap. You know which players on your

879
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 1: own team you want to keep. You start finding out

880
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,879
Speaker 1: from their agents how much they're willing to take or

881
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,399
Speaker 1: what the number is gonna be, and you can kind

882
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 1: of come back after the combine, meet with your coach

883
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 1: and kind of figure it out from there. Then when

884
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:00,439
Speaker 1: it comes to the draft prospects, you get to meet

885
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 1: them for the first time. If I'm Pete Carroll, if

886
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 1: I'm Belichick, if I'm Andy Reid, I never go into

887
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:10,839
Speaker 1: these schools during the season. Why I'm coaching my own team.

888
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 1: Maybe my GM does some school calls. I think in

889
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 1: two thousand twenty, you just do less and less. You

890
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 1: send your right hand guys. Even if I do a

891
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 1: school call. Let's say I'm John Schneider or John lanch

892
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 1: or whoever's right hand man, and you send me to Oklahoma.

893
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 1: You sent me to USC, you send me to Ohio State.

894
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,359
Speaker 1: In a normal year, this year you weren't allowed. Think

895
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:33,760
Speaker 1: about this year, you weren't allowed to do school calls.

896
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 1: We'll get into the repercussions on all that in a minute,

897
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 1: but typically at the combine, my coach and general manager

898
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 1: sit down. If I did the West Coast, let's say

899
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 1: this year Panay Sewell, who's gonna be the number one

900
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 1: left tackle in this class? Or Zach Wilson the quarterback.

901
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 1: In a typical year, I've gone through b y U,

902
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,839
Speaker 1: I've gone through Oregon. I've accumulated because these guys are

903
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 1: such big time prospects, so much information from coaches, from trainers,

904
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 1: from student advisors, from maybe some teammates, that I run

905
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:11,839
Speaker 1: into some of his teammates. If I haven't run into

906
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 1: the player, and if the player is not a senior,

907
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 1: I can't talk to him. Uh. I don't want to

908
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 1: get anyone in trouble. So I've accumulated all this information,

909
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 1: and my coach and GM sit down with Zach Wilson

910
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 1: and they already have the answers to the test, so

911
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:29,839
Speaker 1: they want to ask him any non football questions. They

912
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 1: have it all right in front of him. Well, that's

913
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,800
Speaker 1: not gonna happen this year. It will happen over Zoom.

914
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 1: But it is a little different getting the meeting with

915
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 1: the guy and just getting to see a guy physically

916
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 1: walk through the door. It's a big man's league. Do

917
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 1: you understand the size of these human beings. They're huge,

918
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 1: and these coaches like to see these guys in person.

919
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson, one of the questions on him is he small? What?

920
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 1: What's he What is his frame look like? When he

921
00:51:56,640 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 1: comes into uh to my hotel room with my my

922
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,319
Speaker 1: brass there. We don't get to do that obviously. The

923
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 1: medicals are huge for all the combined invitees, right, they

924
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 1: go through a universal medical check from m r S

925
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 1: to checking up on previous injuries so we can get

926
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 1: a feel for his health, any question marks that you

927
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 1: may have. It's why, like the Twitter gms, it's stupid.

928
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:21,879
Speaker 1: If you don't have the medical information, you don't know

929
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 1: the guy could be a great player. If he's got

930
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:27,759
Speaker 1: a degenerate need, he's gonna fall in the draft. Just

931
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 1: that simple. Then there's also this year is gonna be

932
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 1: tough because the scouting community has not been allowed into

933
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 1: these schools, So younger scouts or scouts that have moved

934
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:48,320
Speaker 1: areas that don't have a great feel for said programs,

935
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 1: it's gonna be difficult. If you don't have personal relationships,

936
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 1: you're gonna get just the run of the mill stuff.

937
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:58,359
Speaker 1: Good kids shows up on time, been dating the same

938
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:02,320
Speaker 1: girl for three years, two pair in household, shows up early,

939
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 1: works hard in the weight room. You're like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

940
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 1: it turns out like half that's true. But when I

941
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 1: for the veteran scouts did have relationships with coordinate, and

942
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 1: the reality is in college football, these coaches coordinators are

943
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 1: moving left and right. So there's just a value even

944
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 1: if you've been on the road for twenty years to

945
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: go into these schools to talk to various guys, to

946
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 1: talk to the secretary. You know what, I mean, you

947
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 1: talk to every you are a detective. You have not

948
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 1: been able to do any of that. And some of

949
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 1: my scouting buddies talking to him over the year, they said,

950
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 1: the hard part is when you're doing this virtual stuff,

951
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:39,799
Speaker 1: especially during the season. For the college coaches, it was

952
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 1: so weird for them. You kind of felt bad bothering them.

953
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:45,879
Speaker 1: Almost you had to wait till after the season. I'd

954
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:49,360
Speaker 1: imagine most of the scouting community right now is cramming.

955
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 1: But the problem is a lot of the college coaches recruiting.

956
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:54,799
Speaker 1: But recruiting is probably all virtual. It's just a very

957
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 1: very complicated, convoluted situation right now that there are gonna

958
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 1: be a lot of holes. If you know, typically going

959
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:07,720
Speaker 1: into a draft, let's say after the combine, you feel

960
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 1: like if if full information, let's say, everything would be

961
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 1: a ten out of ten. Maybe after the combine on

962
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 1: an individual player, you feel like a seven or eight.

963
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 1: Right You've scouted the guy in the fall, You've watched

964
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 1: all the tape, you've met with the player at the

965
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 1: senior ball, at the combine, You've got all the character stuff.

966
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:27,839
Speaker 1: You feel very very comfortable about the guy. I'd say,

967
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 1: right now, even on a famous player like a pinassul

968
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 1: justin fields. After the combine, you're probably get no combine

969
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:37,799
Speaker 1: where you typically would be. You're probably like a two

970
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 1: or three. Which information is power in the scouting community.

971
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 1: I just don't it's gonna be very difficult. They're gonna

972
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:50,360
Speaker 1: be a lot of players that are gonna go probably

973
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 1: where they shouldn't go, and they're gonna be just like

974
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 1: last year's draft. They're gonna be guys. You know, these

975
00:54:55,239 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 1: pro days everything virtual meeting a guy. Imagine interview someone

976
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:03,280
Speaker 1: that you were about to pay thirty million or twenty

977
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 1: five or twenty million dollars, and the only interaction I

978
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:11,399
Speaker 1: can have is over the over a virtual meet. It's

979
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:13,879
Speaker 1: not the same as being in person. And when you're

980
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 1: in person, it's not I just get to talk to

981
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 1: you about football. We get to go to dinner, I

982
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 1: get to talk to you about your family, you get

983
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 1: to spend the night, you get to talk, you have breakfast,

984
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 1: you get to meet with all the other coaches, you

985
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 1: get to just interact in my environment. We just kind

986
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 1: of get to feel you out that clearly is getting

987
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 1: thrown out this year. I do not I wouldn't say

988
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 1: a pity general managers and stuff, because listen, you get

989
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 1: paid a lot of money for this job. Everyone's playing

990
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 1: by the same rules, right, It's like a golf tournament,

991
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:46,799
Speaker 1: Like the course is really hard. Everyone due in the

992
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 1: tournament's playing in the same course. No one gets to complain.

993
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:53,359
Speaker 1: You might be mad at the situation, but we're all

994
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 1: playing by the same rules. Same deal. Here, everyone's operating

995
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:00,319
Speaker 1: under the same rules. And I think that they're doing

996
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 1: the right thing setting these rules and canceling the combine

997
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 1: just because the complications of the testing it just would

998
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:10,799
Speaker 1: probably be a disaster. But this is not ideal for

999
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 1: any GM trying to pick players. Feeling good about picking

1000
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:16,880
Speaker 1: the players because it is more I love the tape,

1001
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 1: the tape, the tape, but once you see the tape,

1002
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:22,320
Speaker 1: it's then is about the person. What type person is he,

1003
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 1: what type worker is he, what type teammate is he?

1004
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:27,479
Speaker 1: And those are the things the research you do going

1005
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:30,320
Speaker 1: into the school, the research you do just being around

1006
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 1: the guy, whether it's going to his pro day, whether

1007
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 1: it's bring him into your facility, whether it's meeting him

1008
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:36,799
Speaker 1: at the combine. Maybe one of your scouts is one

1009
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 1: of his group leaders at the combine. Maybe it was,

1010
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 1: you know, being around him at the Senior Bowl. They're

1011
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 1: they're just gonna be a lot of holes this year

1012
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 1: in the scouting process. They're gonna make it very, very difficult.

1013
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 1: Now they're gonna be some no brainers, right like Trevor Lawrence.

1014
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 1: These characters pristine checks all the athletic accomplishments on the field,

1015
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,359
Speaker 1: checks at all. That's not gonna be that difficult. Most

1016
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 1: guys are not the at like Zach Wilson's two pounds.

1017
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 1: There's some question marks like was he the best teammates

1018
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 1: the first couple of years? You know, I don't love

1019
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:13,799
Speaker 1: asking that question over Zoom or Skype. I would like

1020
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 1: to sit down with them over forty eight hours and

1021
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:20,920
Speaker 1: talk it out justin field, some of his stru whatever,

1022
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 1: Trey Lance, what it was like not playing. I just

1023
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 1: I like human interaction in person when it comes to major,

1024
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 1: major decisions, when it comes to like a six or

1025
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 1: seventh rounder, like, yeah, I do virtual. That's not not

1026
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 1: losing that much sleep over it. My first second rounders,

1027
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 1: I like to spend as much time humanly possible in

1028
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 1: their presence, and that clearly got canceled. Combined for I mean,

1029
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 1: most of you guys probably listening. Don't work in the NFL.

1030
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 1: It's really fun. You know, it's your party at night.

1031
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 1: You go to do combine stuff. Uh help people like me.

1032
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 1: We get out of there before the workouts put me

1033
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 1: to sleep. I just watched it at home from my couch.

1034
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 1: But the first three or four days are I'm very sad.

1035
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 1: I really am so no combine and man, you're your

1036
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 1: gms and coaches gonna be scrambling this year. Man, Okay,

1037
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:18,919
Speaker 1: let's do a little middle Cuff mail back at John

1038
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 1: Middlecoff is the the Instagram handle those d ms wide open.

1039
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 1: I welcome you to slide right in, big fan of

1040
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 1: the pot from James. I'm an Eagles fan, and my

1041
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 1: buddies have been telling me the past twenty four hours

1042
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 1: how terrible of a higher McDaniels would be. But I

1043
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 1: think it could be a fantastic hire. I get the people.

1044
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 1: Skills might not be great. He actually there was a

1045
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 1: long article by Dan Pompeii. He's been working on those

1046
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. He wrote that, But he's

1047
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 1: coach countless Big games has shown he can adjust his offense,

1048
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 1: and Denver was a long time ago. I mean Chris

1049
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 1: Ballard might be the best GM and ball and he

1050
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 1: hired him for a second anyway, Am I crazy to

1051
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 1: think it could be a steel of a higher Listen?

1052
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 1: On paper, Josh McDaniels is really good, right, he's your classic.

1053
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 1: Got a shot was way over his head because he

1054
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 1: was really young, screwed up, got humbled, got fired, kind

1055
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 1: of got back his mojo his swag, and him and

1056
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 1: Brady eviscerated the league for like eight years with a

1057
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 1: bunch of new players that he had done it with previously.

1058
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 1: The damn pomp pay article a couple of years ago,

1059
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 1: I think on Bleacher Report was really really good. I

1060
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 1: think Josh did a lot of looking in the mirror.

1061
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 1: Uh My biggest question mark is back to the Colts

1062
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 1: White he quit? Did you know Andrew luck was thinking

1063
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 1: about retiring? That one was weird? That that one was weird.

1064
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 1: I read somewhere. I think this weekend he makes maybe

1065
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 1: four million dollars with New England. So I mean they

1066
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 1: paid him a lot of money to stay the relationship

1067
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:01,760
Speaker 1: with him, And how that would be interesting, How that

1068
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 1: would work? I think, Josh, Yeah, I mean I think

1069
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 1: you'd be a good hyre. I mean, look, look at

1070
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 1: what he's done in the big games. You know he's

1071
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 1: calling the plays too. Yeah, I don't hate it at all.

1072
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 1: Before you pile on Lamar, I don't even think I've

1073
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 1: talked about Lamar today. I'm not here to pile I

1074
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 1: am actually mad at myself. I've been saying for a

1075
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 1: couple of years now, I will bet the house against

1076
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 1: Lamar in a big game. And I didn't do it

1077
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 1: last week, so I didn't do it again this week,

1078
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 1: and he was terrible. I mean, he can't throw when

1079
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:36,680
Speaker 1: he has to, and I root for the guy. I

1080
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 1: like Lamar Jackson because the more and more I watched

1081
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 1: his press conferences, I go, I love this kid. He's

1082
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 1: so positive. Everything like social media stands for this victim hood.

1083
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 1: You don't be nice. He hates that crap. Nobody cares,

1084
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:54,920
Speaker 1: work harder. He always takes responsibility. I'm a huge fan

1085
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 1: of Lamar the person. I actually find myself rooting for Lamar.

1086
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 1: He's just I just don't think he throws the ball

1087
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 1: well enough. I'd like to point out a multitude of deficiencies,

1088
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 1: multiple with field goals, punts, welcome to the playoffs, and

1089
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 1: windy conditions in the cold like you're not gonna make

1090
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 1: field goals, horrendous odline play, inconsistent and confusing play calling,

1091
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 1: drop passes, and our overall subpar receiving corps. Lamar certainly

1092
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 1: could have played better. And the pick six, as rich

1093
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:29,640
Speaker 1: Gannon would call the baby zone, he threw a baby killer.

1094
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 1: It was bad, But I don't put this game on him.

1095
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 1: In my opinion, the coasting staff in front office is

1096
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 1: at fault the play calling and not giving Lamar the

1097
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 1: tools other quarterbacks. Half your thoughts. I think it's pretty simple.

1098
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 1: This offense destroys people in the regular season. Hell, they

1099
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:50,920
Speaker 1: weren't even that good this year and they won eleven games. Eventually,

1100
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 1: when you get to the playoffs, you have to make

1101
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:56,440
Speaker 1: throws on second and third and law. You can't just

1102
01:01:56,560 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 1: run the option. I have to drop back, sit in

1103
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 1: the pocket and throw a deep out route and throw

1104
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:07,200
Speaker 1: a deep crossing pattern and throw a pass after my

1105
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:10,400
Speaker 1: number one option was taken away because they double teamed him.

1106
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 1: Mahomes does it, Josh Allen's doing it, Brady Rogers do it.

1107
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 1: You have to be able to do that to beat

1108
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:21,120
Speaker 1: these guys, and he can't. Now the offensive structure like

1109
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 1: they run this offense because he's really good in it.

1110
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:27,760
Speaker 1: The problem is it doesn't translate to the playoffs. Here's

1111
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:31,560
Speaker 1: the other problem for the Ravens. Statistically, They've had one

1112
01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 1: of the best defenses in the league for like the

1113
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:35,960
Speaker 1: last three years, and they have nothing to show for.

1114
01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:38,680
Speaker 1: They have one playoff point. If I was a defender

1115
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:40,720
Speaker 1: on that team, I'd be like, come on, guys, can

1116
01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:46,160
Speaker 1: we score some points. I was a little intoxicated on

1117
01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 1: Saturday night. What did the Ravens even? What was the

1118
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 1: final score of that game? Did they score more than

1119
01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:55,120
Speaker 1: three points? Let me let me re pull up the

1120
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:59,440
Speaker 1: score on that bad boy, But I'm pretty sure that

1121
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:02,480
Speaker 1: the final all score of that game was yeah, three,

1122
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:08,160
Speaker 1: they scored three points. Three points. Now, it was a

1123
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:11,120
Speaker 1: defensive game. The Bills are playing well, the Ravens were

1124
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:14,040
Speaker 1: playing good on defense. And you know, seven of those

1125
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:17,959
Speaker 1: Bills points right came on the pick six. So maybe

1126
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:19,560
Speaker 1: the final score, you know, if you take away that

1127
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:21,439
Speaker 1: pick six, settled for a field goal ten to six.

1128
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:24,120
Speaker 1: But it's a low scoring game. They're playing in low

1129
01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 1: scoring games and they still can't win it. Now, they

1130
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:31,560
Speaker 1: need to get him to me. What they need to

1131
01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:35,560
Speaker 1: do for Lamar Jackson Is. Get him a Keenan allen Is.

1132
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 1: Get him a Mike williams is. Get him maybe traded

1133
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:40,680
Speaker 1: for Mike Williams. Like would they trade their second round

1134
01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:43,320
Speaker 1: pick for Mike Williams. Get him a player like that,

1135
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:45,280
Speaker 1: someone that can high point the ball, someone that you

1136
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 1: can throw it up to. Someone Davante Adams. You can

1137
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 1: get these guys in college, right, draft him, these guys

1138
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:55,360
Speaker 1: with huge catching radiuses, crab what Crabtree became when he

1139
01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 1: went to the Raiders with Derek Carr Ceedee Lamb. They

1140
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:01,720
Speaker 1: need to get up player like that. Because they got

1141
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:06,560
Speaker 1: Mark Andrews. Hollywood is tiny. They need to get Lamar

1142
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 1: a bigger player. And they need to practice passing in

1143
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:13,240
Speaker 1: the regular season more. That to me is a huge

1144
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:17,280
Speaker 1: problem for them. So yeah, I mean, I listen, you

1145
01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 1: scored three points. I'm sorry, Like I'm blaming the coach

1146
01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:22,360
Speaker 1: and blaming the quarterback. As a person that's worked in

1147
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:25,040
Speaker 1: the NFL's a scout, do you find it interesting the

1148
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:28,440
Speaker 1: lack of minority coaches? For example, the enemy has had

1149
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:31,600
Speaker 1: several knocks against him, one being that he doesn't call plays.

1150
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:34,600
Speaker 1: I don't recall Naggie Peterson or John Harbaugh calling any

1151
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:38,560
Speaker 1: plays prior to them landing the head jobs. You don't

1152
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:40,920
Speaker 1: have to respond on air if you don't want to.

1153
01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:45,560
Speaker 1: It's just interesting that every year minorities, uh, there seemed

1154
01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:49,000
Speaker 1: to be less and less opportunities. I do think this

1155
01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:52,880
Speaker 1: year Robert sala is not a white guy. Uh, multiple

1156
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:56,320
Speaker 1: gms they were black guys were hired. I'm not I'm

1157
01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:58,560
Speaker 1: not like as a white guy acting like that's progress

1158
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 1: or whatever. But there I'm just stating the fact that

1159
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:04,400
Speaker 1: three minorities have been hired so far. Eric Bannimy, I

1160
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:07,080
Speaker 1: don't know. Like I said I mentioned, I don't understand it.

1161
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 1: There must be something I don't know if I know

1162
01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:12,360
Speaker 1: you guys know me like I would say it. If

1163
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:15,360
Speaker 1: there's something in his personality. I know he had some issues.

1164
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 1: You can google it. Maybe I almost said something. You know,

1165
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:21,640
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say a guy's got a d uy

1166
01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:23,200
Speaker 1: or something if I don't know he has. But I

1167
01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:26,360
Speaker 1: thought there was there's stuff in his past, but it

1168
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:29,360
Speaker 1: was a long time ago. It might even been when

1169
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:33,240
Speaker 1: he was a player. But like, for whatever reason, a

1170
01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:34,760
Speaker 1: lot of people have had a lot of issues and

1171
01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 1: they get hired. It is a little bizarre. I think

1172
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 1: sometimes like the gym called well, Marvin Lewis, to me,

1173
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:45,520
Speaker 1: that's probably more age people are looking younger. Eric Bannimy,

1174
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:47,400
Speaker 1: I think it is forty nine years old or fifty one.

1175
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:50,960
Speaker 1: I looked it up the other night. It is typically

1176
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:54,720
Speaker 1: Andy Reid guys have the easiest time getting hired, and

1177
01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:57,520
Speaker 1: he's having a very, very difficult time getting a head job.

1178
01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:03,840
Speaker 1: But I would say that you saw this year. Think

1179
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:08,200
Speaker 1: how many new gms Casario you know, now, how he's

1180
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:10,600
Speaker 1: a you know, picking a coach. They don't, you know,

1181
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:13,240
Speaker 1: they're the Texas. The Eagles don't have a coach, but

1182
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 1: Holmes in Detroit they hired Dan Campbell. Joe Douglas hired

1183
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:19,960
Speaker 1: Robert Salo. Well you go, well they hired you know,

1184
01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:22,400
Speaker 1: Robert Salo led a great defense the last couple of years.

1185
01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:26,200
Speaker 1: Minority guys who can't really say anything there fought no.

1186
01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:29,240
Speaker 1: The dude from the Saints went to the Atlanta Falcons.

1187
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:31,920
Speaker 1: They hired Arthur Smith. Now, part of this could be

1188
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:34,920
Speaker 1: the owner wanting that these coaches. I don't know the information,

1189
01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:37,600
Speaker 1: but it doesn't seem like any of these gms. The

1190
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:43,960
Speaker 1: new gms thought no Holmes Joe Douglas. What teams are

1191
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:46,160
Speaker 1: I'm missing? I guess urban Meyer was hired, so that

1192
01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:48,920
Speaker 1: was a spot to LESCo. They weren't that interested in

1193
01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:54,680
Speaker 1: Rick Bienemy for whatever reason. Now granted, solid defensive coach

1194
01:06:55,240 --> 01:07:00,960
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell doesn't coach a position. Urban Meyer leader, Brandon

1195
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:04,040
Speaker 1: Saley defensive coach, So it's not not all these coaches

1196
01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:07,200
Speaker 1: are getting offensive coaches are getting hired. Brian day Ball

1197
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:12,000
Speaker 1: with the Bills didn't get hired this year. Ultimately, I

1198
01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:13,960
Speaker 1: don't have a great answer for you. I don't know why.

1199
01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:17,840
Speaker 1: It's weird bizarre. Maybe there's something there that we don't know.

1200
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:22,439
Speaker 1: Maybe it's just simple. People don't like him. I mean,

1201
01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:25,840
Speaker 1: Andy likes him. He's winning, making good cash. I know

1202
01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:28,360
Speaker 1: he wants to be a head coach and that you

1203
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:32,880
Speaker 1: think it's inevitable, But maybe it's not inevitable. Maybe no

1204
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:36,760
Speaker 1: one's gonna stake their claimed to him right as a GM,

1205
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:38,760
Speaker 1: and I don't think for whatever reason, he has enough

1206
01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 1: momentum to be the head coach it's gonna hire the GM.

1207
01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:45,720
Speaker 1: It's a it's a weird deal. I I will agree

1208
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:48,400
Speaker 1: on that one, but it's just it kind of isn't

1209
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:50,520
Speaker 1: what it is now, like none of these teams want

1210
01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:56,040
Speaker 1: this guy. I really enjoyed your segment on Urban Meyer.

1211
01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:58,040
Speaker 1: I think the transition from college in the NFL is

1212
01:07:58,040 --> 01:08:01,440
Speaker 1: gonna be tougher than he expects. I think he expects

1213
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:04,040
Speaker 1: it to be difficult, like I. I don't think he

1214
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:08,120
Speaker 1: expects it to be easy. Uh, you know, I think,

1215
01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:10,120
Speaker 1: you know, like he's not gonna make the playoffs next year.

1216
01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think it's gonna be difficult too. I mean,

1217
01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:17,439
Speaker 1: he's gotta Beatable, he's gotta be Frank Riich. He's gotta

1218
01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:19,920
Speaker 1: beat the Steelers, he's gotta beat Belichick, he's gotta beat

1219
01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:22,920
Speaker 1: and he read. You know, He's ain't gonna be easy.

1220
01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:25,120
Speaker 1: You know, he's gotta beat the Packer. Like you, you

1221
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:27,760
Speaker 1: just play big time teams when you're in the NFL, Right,

1222
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:30,439
Speaker 1: you play an NFC division, you play an a FC

1223
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:34,559
Speaker 1: division in his own division is good, It's it's gonna

1224
01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:38,640
Speaker 1: be a challenge. What are your thoughts on Ben and

1225
01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:40,559
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh and what they should look for in the draft.

1226
01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:43,760
Speaker 1: I think there was a story this weekend that Ben's

1227
01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:48,320
Speaker 1: gonna return, which I understand that's a lot of money. Uh.

1228
01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:50,439
Speaker 1: I think the Steelers would love for him to retire.

1229
01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:53,960
Speaker 1: I think they would pay him to retire, but he's

1230
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:55,680
Speaker 1: not gonna leave the money on the table. And I

1231
01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:58,439
Speaker 1: think in his mind he just goes, you know, we

1232
01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:00,719
Speaker 1: just got it, kind of got unlucky down the stretch

1233
01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:03,120
Speaker 1: where I go. You know, Ben, I thought last year

1234
01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:05,719
Speaker 1: a breeze, Like it's over. Bro, You're not the same,

1235
01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:08,080
Speaker 1: but you're still But in his mind, like if I

1236
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:09,680
Speaker 1: could still make the playoffs and we can still win

1237
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:13,120
Speaker 1: double digit games, so what I'm not the same, I'm

1238
01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:15,080
Speaker 1: still making the playoffs. I'm still better than the majority

1239
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:17,920
Speaker 1: of the league in his mind, which is a problem

1240
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:19,920
Speaker 1: for the Steelers because I think they would love to pivot,

1241
01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:22,920
Speaker 1: but you can't cut him. He just means too much

1242
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:25,280
Speaker 1: to your franchise. You're just kind of stuck with him.

1243
01:09:26,439 --> 01:09:28,639
Speaker 1: And they got when they got bounced in the first

1244
01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:31,080
Speaker 1: round to their picks, and you know, the early twenties,

1245
01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:34,000
Speaker 1: what are they gonna do, like draft mac Jones. They

1246
01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:36,960
Speaker 1: drafted so many quarterbacks last three or four years. I

1247
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:38,799
Speaker 1: think you just write it out. Now, would you trade

1248
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:41,120
Speaker 1: that pick for like Sam Donald? What are you gonna

1249
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:43,120
Speaker 1: have Sam Donald to sit behind Roethlisberger? For a year.

1250
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:45,280
Speaker 1: You know, if you're gonna trade your first round pick

1251
01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:47,280
Speaker 1: for a quarterback or Matt Stafford, you want to play

1252
01:09:47,360 --> 01:09:49,839
Speaker 1: that guy. And if Ben comes back, that's not an option.

1253
01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:51,840
Speaker 1: I think they're kind of screwed. I just think you

1254
01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:54,679
Speaker 1: keep building your team and put yourself in a position

1255
01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:57,840
Speaker 1: the following year whenever he retires to trade your first

1256
01:09:57,880 --> 01:10:02,120
Speaker 1: round pick for legit starting quarterback, because it doesn't make

1257
01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:03,640
Speaker 1: any sense to do that with roth Spurger still on

1258
01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:07,160
Speaker 1: the roster because the guy you're not gonna trade that

1259
01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:09,920
Speaker 1: forgot to sit. So I think they're I just think

1260
01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:12,679
Speaker 1: they'll just take the best player possible, whether that's someone

1261
01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 1: on defense, on offensive lineman. You know, if jujule Is

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Speaker 1: take another wide receiver, I don't know. They don't need

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Speaker 1: to take wide receivers in the first round. They take

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Speaker 1: them in the mid rounds and it works out well.

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Speaker 1: So I think the Steelers they'll be fine. I mean

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Speaker 1: there'll be a ten win team with Rothsburger competing for

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Speaker 1: the division. Appreciate everyone listening. DM still wide open, have

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Speaker 1: a great week. Talk to you Friday.