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Speaker 1: Wind Down with Jana Kramer and I'mheart Radio Podcast. So

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Speaker 1: excited to have doctor Chelsea Jackson Roberts on the show.

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Speaker 1: She has a blog called Chelsea loves Yoga dot com,

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Speaker 1: so she's been a part of the Peloton family within

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Speaker 1: their yoga community for two decades. She incorporates hip hop,

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Speaker 1: electronic R and B a saana. She's an expert in

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Speaker 1: slow flow restorative yoga. She prides herself in creating classes

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Speaker 1: that leave her students with a strong sense of belonging

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Speaker 1: and accomplishment. Chelsea earned teaching credentials and later completed her MAA,

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Speaker 1: followed by her PhD from the Division of Educational Studies

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Speaker 1: at Emory University. Really excited to talk to her as

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Speaker 1: I have been told to do yoga a time or two.

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Speaker 1: Let's get her on. So I'm really excited to talk

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Speaker 1: to you because whenever I go to therapy, my therapist

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Speaker 1: is always like, she wants me to do yoga so bad.

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Speaker 1: I mean it is. It is one of the things.

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Speaker 1: She's given me. Everything in my toolbox and I've done

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Speaker 1: every single one of them, but yoga.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And I when I was reading your breakdown, I was like, man,

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Speaker 1: this is A. I don't know if my therapist set

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Speaker 1: this up or like what she's doing right now, but

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Speaker 1: it's it's interesting and I'm curious to kind of get

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Speaker 1: your I obviously you're you know the Star Peloton yoga,

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Speaker 1: you know instructor, and I I want to write like

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Speaker 1: there's a there's every part of me that goes I

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Speaker 1: want to try it. I have tried it in the

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Speaker 1: past and just for me personally, and I'm not like

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Speaker 1: trying to uh. I don't want to be rude or

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Speaker 1: and then I'm just like I can just because I

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Speaker 1: stretch after I work out. I liked the hot yoga

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Speaker 1: because I felt like at least I was burning. But

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Speaker 1: when I'm doing yoga, I go I just feel like

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Speaker 1: I'm wasting time and I don't have time to waste

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Speaker 1: because I've got two kids, got one on the way,

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Speaker 1: I'm and so I struggle with with it. But I've

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Speaker 1: heard so many amazing things about yoga m hm that

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I really want to try, but it's like,

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Speaker 1: how do I block my well, I've got a million

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Speaker 1: things I need to do. I'd rather go for a run,

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Speaker 1: burn more calories or lift or something like, please tell

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Speaker 1: me that my way of thinking is awful and I

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Speaker 1: need to stop.

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Speaker 2: Not at all, not at all, It's not awful. You

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Speaker 2: do not need to stop. I think that the first

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Speaker 2: part is that you're acknowledging that there's something that is

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Speaker 2: that you haven't a version there. It's just like I

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Speaker 2: heard everything that you just said. You said, so it

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Speaker 2: feels like a waste of your time. It's like and

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Speaker 2: the way that I started practicing yoga was because of

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Speaker 2: hot yoga, Like that was I was a hot yoga girl,

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Speaker 2: went multiple times a day like that was my jam,

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Speaker 2: and it made sense to me. And then it wasn't

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Speaker 2: until I started to branch out into some other classes,

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Speaker 2: specifically ones that really centered a meditation, and I too

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Speaker 2: thought it was the most boring things in the world,

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Speaker 2: and I didn't understand why people did it, but I

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Speaker 2: saw the result of it. You know, when you meet

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Speaker 2: that person, they're not necessarily like this fake happy like this,

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Speaker 2: like and even like even preaching like positive mindset, like

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Speaker 2: no shade to that, Like, they're not even that. It's

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Speaker 2: just like you can just tell that they're like really

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Speaker 2: and I met people who coincidentally or maybe not coincidentally,

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Speaker 2: it just made me more curious. I think about other

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Speaker 2: things that do not capture my interests, like what you

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Speaker 2: most of the time, it is something that is a challenge,

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Speaker 2: but it's only this internal challenge, Like it is challenging

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Speaker 2: I'm dedicating an hour or even thirty minutes can be

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Speaker 2: critical in my day, and it's only to center and

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Speaker 2: listen and to feel everything that I've been experiencing. No,

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Speaker 2: responses to facing confronting everything that our body has been holding.

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Speaker 2: So imagine if that's coming out of us, now, what

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Speaker 1: To Yeah, I could definitely relate to a piece that

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Speaker 1: back tears and I remember, you know, telling my girlfriend

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Speaker 1: And I could see how that could relate in you know,

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that anything that again centers our body,

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Speaker 2: our emotions, our experiences, our feelings. I think that anything

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Speaker 2: that makes us listen to ourselves is going to tap

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Speaker 2: into that part of us, that part in yoga we

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Speaker 2: call it kundalini, the part of us that has lied dormant.

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Speaker 2: And I always imagine this big experience like this snake

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Speaker 2: was going to be I have like this explosion. It

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Speaker 2: is as simple as that cry at the end of

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Speaker 2: Shivasna and being honest that you've been holding a lot

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Speaker 2: like as a mother, as a parent, as a person,

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Speaker 2: as a human like all of that, and so same thing.

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Speaker 2: That's one of the reasons why I do gospel yoga

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Speaker 2: but instead that also happened to me when I first

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Speaker 2: heard a gospel choir and I just cried, and I

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Speaker 2: was just like, why is this happening? And so the

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Speaker 2: same thing can happen with yoga. Care time is one

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Speaker 2: of the traditional songs that you hear. There are music

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Speaker 2: that you hear in traditional yoga and meditation spaces. I

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Speaker 2: have no idea what they're saying a lot of the times,

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Speaker 2: like I know what certain words are, but there's a

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Speaker 2: resonance that goes beyond language, that goes beyond the barriers

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Speaker 2: that actually can was disconnected, and I think music in

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Speaker 2: particular is a way for us to find that commonality.

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Speaker 2: And also it can be quite emotional for sure.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting too on the meditation side, because again,

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Speaker 1: you know, my therapist was always like yoga, meditation, like

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Speaker 1: It was the best five minutes ever. I felt recentered,

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Speaker 1: get more excited about it, where I'm like, hey, you

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Speaker 1: want to do that like five minute ten minute meditations?

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Speaker 2: About started off with five minutes with you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, It's almost like he knew that I couldn't handle thirty.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, he sounds like he's a great meditation teacher, because

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Speaker 2: I think that that is the who doesn't want to meditate.

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Speaker 2: I think that we are definitely in the era like

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Speaker 2: the presentation on TikTok, like get ready with Me, it

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Speaker 2: just looks so immaculate. I live for all the satirical

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Speaker 2: like you know, like get ready with me after three

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Speaker 2: I think that the more that people are honest with

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Speaker 2: the journey that it took for them to lead up

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Speaker 2: to a meditation, that may last thirty minutes even but

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Speaker 2: it's not always as beautiful, like I'm not just walking

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Speaker 2: are those days that I don't want to sit down

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Speaker 2: we see it portrayed is that it's just it should

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Speaker 2: be easy. It's not. It's right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So walk me through what would be your advice

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Speaker 1: to get me started into your class's yoga mindset?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that you started off really great and

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Speaker 2: five minutes, just like any workout, because meditation is a workout,

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Speaker 2: please believe it. I don't want to overwhelm myself, burn

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Speaker 2: myself out. Go wait, train, go get on the bike,

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Speaker 2: can't do this for the next ten days. And so

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Speaker 2: the first thing I say is start with that five minutes.

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Speaker 2: Start with a deep breath that lasts for thirty seconds,

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Speaker 2: like so that you don't overwhelm yourself and tell yourself

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Speaker 2: Number two is tap into the curiosity that led you

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Speaker 2: to integrate it. I'm all about practicality, Like if it's

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Speaker 2: how thank you and thank you for paving the way.

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Speaker 2: I know the Witch's meeting for the first time, but

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Speaker 2: where I'm just like, y'all were doing yoga well before

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Speaker 2: this tough conversation with someone that I've been dreading having

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Speaker 2: day before. Right, it's not supposed to be in isolation

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Speaker 2: where it's just like, uh, I'm doing yoga. This is

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Speaker 2: yoga for thirty minutes. No, the yoga begins when you

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Speaker 2: when you think about this is a waste of my

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Speaker 2: time in the thirty minutes, And I'm talking about myself

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Speaker 2: because that's who I was and still am sometimes honestly

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Speaker 2: to where it's like, But I know that in the

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Speaker 2: about my relationship to challenge to celebration, like whatever that

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Speaker 1: Right. I mean, I've never wanted to do yoga so much, Right,

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Speaker 1: I mean I want to do it right. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: let's do it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I let me go to my peloton app

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Speaker 1: right now and right because now I just we all

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Speaker 1: need that pause.

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Speaker 2: We do yeah. And I say, for the folks who

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Speaker 2: you know you asked about my class, I always want

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Speaker 2: to say, what makes it unique is the music for me?

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Speaker 2: And what I like people to know that I've been

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Speaker 2: waiting for you, whether you are into trap yoga, whether

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. And sometimes that is the hard part about

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Speaker 1: I will try it, I promise, and I'm looking forward

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Speaker 1: to it. So thank you for coming on you. Thanks,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you. Bye Chelsea nye mm hmm