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Speaker 1: You didn't want to talk about Jeremy Prude and his

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm talking about, ty, I want to

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Speaker 1: I want to hear it, get a lot in here.

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Speaker 1: I want to jumpstart my intellectual relationship with the sport

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Speaker 1: and having renewed rivalries new spice is what I want.

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Speaker 2: I want USC to go seven and five.

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Speaker 1: That's the single thing you want the most.

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Speaker 2: Feels like everything's changed since USC decided to pluck Lincoln

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Speaker 2: interesting storyline. Selfishly, I want Shan Clifford to stay healthy.

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Speaker 2: I'm just curious to see what that looks like. I

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Speaker 1: Clifford fan, right, But you got to name one thing,

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Speaker 2: Why don't I have to name one thing?

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, no, my number one thing is renewed rivalry.

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Speaker 2: I want to see Anthony Richardson live up to the hype.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but if you're.

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Speaker 2: We'll see, we'll see.

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Speaker 2: Okay, here we go, Dan, why does it seem that

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Speaker 2: Many coaches stayed that is from Joel, So I must

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Speaker 2: ask who is predicting Oklahoma to tank? Are people?

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Speaker 1: That's the thing? Yeah? I think you are more sensitive

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Speaker 2: Oklahoma this season moving forward, It's hard to predict moving forward.

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Speaker 2: The question is, we haven't seen Brent Venables in this

436
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Speaker 2: role before, and he has learned from the best, been

437
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Speaker 2: in proximity to the best in the coaching ranks. But

438
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Speaker 2: what does it look like two years from now, what

439
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,880
Speaker 2: does recruiting look like three years from now? I don't know.

440
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 2: Oklahoma is clearly willing to stick with this guy. They

441
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Speaker 2: like this guy. He wants to be there. He left

442
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Speaker 2: a good situation to be in Norman. But you know,

443
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Speaker 2: it's just hard to predict moving forward, and I think

444
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Speaker 2: people get scared of that. People get scared of that, right,

445
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Speaker 2: They don't know what to expect. Therefore they assume the worst.

446
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Speaker 2: I'm not necessarily assuming the worst, but we do need

447
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Speaker 2: to see some body of work here before we can

448
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Speaker 2: get too confident.

449
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Speaker 1: And typically, speaking of the teams that have success with

450
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Speaker 1: first time head coaches that are trying to win on

451
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Speaker 1: the level in which Oklahoma's program and fans expect to win.

452
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Speaker 1: So that is winning the Big Twelve most years and

453
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Speaker 1: being in the playoff conversation most years. Typically speaking, those

454
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Speaker 1: programs are making internal higher and promotions, whether it's Ryan Day,

455
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Speaker 1: whether it's Dabo, whether it's who else are we looking

456
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Speaker 1: at for first time head coaches that have gotten their teams.

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Speaker 1: You know, Mark Helfrich was an internal higher for Oregon

458
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Speaker 1: getting them to the playoff. Chris Peterson was external but

459
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Speaker 1: not a first time head coach that that you know

460
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Speaker 1: where the salt shaker is, you know where the bathrooms are,

461
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Speaker 1: you know where the linen closet is. And so when

462
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Speaker 1: there is that first time head coach, there is a

463
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Speaker 1: learning curve just with the ins and outs of the

464
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Speaker 1: program and the personnel that he's inheriting. Whereas Ryan Day

465
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Speaker 1: ascends to that job, he knows what he has in

466
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Speaker 1: that receiving core. He knows what he has has in

467
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Speaker 1: his assistant coaches. And so Lincoln Riley was that first

468
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Speaker 1: time head coach, knew what he had with his team

469
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Speaker 1: and made some perhaps shaky decisions maintaining a relationship with

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Speaker 1: Mike Stukes. But the reason why he had so much

471
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Speaker 1: success early on, aside from being a very strong coach,

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Speaker 1: was the familiarity with the program. And so that's why

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Speaker 1: I think people say it might take a minute, Brent

474
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Speaker 1: Venables in Oklahoma, but we're still you know, bullish on

475
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Speaker 1: an overall ceiling.

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Speaker 2: Dave reeoray on Twitter. It's regarding what is more enjoyable

477
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Speaker 2: early season when football is back and hope springs eternal,

478
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Speaker 2: mid season when you've got your conference games in full swing,

479
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Speaker 2: or the late slash post season when the big question

480
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Speaker 2: is who's coming out on top. This is a tough

481
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Speaker 2: question to answer, I think, especially in our chairs, because

482
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Speaker 2: we have found joy in all three stages of a

483
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Speaker 2: college football season right Each stage has its perks. We

484
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Speaker 2: do our best here on the show to try and

485
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Speaker 2: highlight those. It is tough for me to not answer

486
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Speaker 2: the early season because of the endless optimism, and we

487
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Speaker 2: thrive on that. Our numbers are highest in the in

488
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Speaker 2: the in the early part of the season because it's

489
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Speaker 2: been a long offseason. Everyone's undefeated, Hope springs eternal, as

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Speaker 2: Dave said here, So.

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Speaker 1: You tell me, is it when you first start dating somebody.

492
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Speaker 1: Is it when you're in a relationship or is it marriage? Continue?

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Speaker 2: I don't want to phrase it like that. We're not

494
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Speaker 2: going there with this show.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, just making sure.

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Speaker 2: I think my answer is mid season. Okay, I think

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Speaker 2: my answer is mid season because it's very exciting in

498
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Speaker 2: the beginning portion, very exciting when you're getting back into things.

499
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Speaker 2: But I genuinely find the most enjoyment as I'm going

500
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Speaker 2: through and as I'm watching, as we're doing this show,

501
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Speaker 2: in like the middle October range of things, you're getting

502
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Speaker 2: into conference play. You're starting to see better matchups. After

503
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Speaker 2: we get through September, we have a better idea of

504
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Speaker 2: who teams are. And then once we get into October,

505
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Speaker 2: that's when the rubber beats the road. That's when we

506
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Speaker 2: start seeing some really interesting conference tests. And that's what

507
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Speaker 2: I really find the most interesting and enjoyable. So for me,

508
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Speaker 2: Dave and Dan and Dave, the answer is the mid season,

509
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Speaker 2: middle portion there.

510
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Speaker 1: I have the middle of the season as well, because

511
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Speaker 1: we don't know the context early on of what we're seeing.

512
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Speaker 1: We don't know that that game that we perceive to

513
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 1: be an upset actually is an upset. Now, Yeah, I

514
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Speaker 1: appreciate the excitement. Like my favorite single moment of the

515
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 1: season is when toe meets leather, right that this to

516
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Speaker 1: begin things, whether it's the Thursday night game, whether it's

517
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Speaker 1: week zero, it's generally that first official Week one Saturday

518
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Speaker 1: at noon eastern kickoff where it's whoever North Carolina South Carolina,

519
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 1: the two teams that I don't have personal investment in,

520
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Speaker 1: But there's just that feeling you get of things starting up,

521
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Speaker 1: that excitement, that rush of energy, not unlike when you

522
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Speaker 1: tell a crush you like them and they're like I

523
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:48,479
Speaker 1: kind of like you too. Should we should we go

524
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 1: eat some mazzarella sticks and haven't been like yeah, definitely.

525
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 1: That's the rush. But what we get with mid season

526
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Speaker 1: is more context, more excitement about oh snap, week seven

527
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 1: looks incredible. We understand what is and isn't an upset,

528
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Speaker 1: which is nice. It adds further context, but also the

529
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Speaker 1: possibility even though you kind of know your team and

530
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Speaker 1: know your teams like, yeah, our offense is good, our

531
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Speaker 1: defense is struggling, but knowing that still anything's kind of possible.

532
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Speaker 1: Right you catch the right team on the right weekend

533
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Speaker 1: at the right time, with the right whatever, that there

534
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Speaker 1: is at least you still have that nugget of hope,

535
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Speaker 1: but also you understand the hope and so you know,

536
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Speaker 1: then the air becomes a little bit crisp. Wherever you

537
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Speaker 1: are in October, there's a rhythm to things. I there's

538
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Speaker 1: just nothing better than like Week eight, Week six, Week nine,

539
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Speaker 1: like that whole region of the season. Now your team

540
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 1: could be a nightmare, but at least you know that,

541
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Speaker 1: at least you have that understanding, so that if you

542
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Speaker 1: do randomly beat a ranked team, the nectar is a

543
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Speaker 1: little bit sweeter. So I really love the mid season.

544
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Speaker 1: That to me is where everything lies. And then you

545
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Speaker 1: get you know, the the weird I've talked about, like

546
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Speaker 1: third tier rivalries that you get those matchups like just

547
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Speaker 1: I don't know it, just that's the warm blanket of

548
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Speaker 1: awesomeness to.

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Speaker 2: Me, the warm blanket, yeah, of awesomeness. Dan, we mentioned

550
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Speaker 2: South Carolina, so I did want to bring up this

551
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Speaker 2: question if I can find it. There was a question

552
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Speaker 2: about whether or not we can do better in terms

553
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Speaker 2: of entrance music.

554
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Speaker 1: Sure.

555
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Speaker 2: The two songs that were cited were obviously enter Sandman

556
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Speaker 2: from Metallica I E. Virginia Tech and Sandstorm, which we

557
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 2: hear at South Carolina. I'm trying to pull up who

558
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 2: sent this question in I can't find it, but I

559
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 2: remember the question is from just a fan twenty two.

560
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Speaker 2: What songs do you wish teams would come out to

561
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Speaker 2: and which team you wish use them? Surely in twenty

562
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Speaker 2: twenty two we knew better than Enter Saman and Sandstorm.

563
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Speaker 2: I'm not sure that we can, and I'd like to

564
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Speaker 2: tell a story if I could.

565
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Speaker 1: The Flora is yours.

566
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Speaker 2: Back in twenty fifteen, shortly after I got married and

567
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Speaker 2: I moved into a new place. A couple months later,

568
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 2: the college football season started, and you recall maybe you do,

569
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 2: maybe you don't, but that was the year in which

570
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Speaker 2: South Carolina opened up on a Thursday night at six

571
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Speaker 2: pm against North Carolina.

572
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Speaker 1: Yeah, big game.

573
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Speaker 2: That South Carolina team was kind of a nightmare. They

574
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Speaker 2: went three to nine. I believe Carolina had a good team.

575
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Speaker 2: They were like eleven and three over the course of

576
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Speaker 2: the sea. That was a good team, A good North

577
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 2: Carolina team that lost a very close one in Colombia.

578
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Speaker 2: Opening game of the year.

579
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Speaker 1: Is that Marquise Williams throwing like two or three picks

580
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Speaker 1: in the end zone.

581
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Speaker 2: That's exactly what that was. Yep, yep, And I think

582
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 2: Mitch Trubisky was also on that team. It was you know,

583
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Speaker 2: I mean you go back a couple of years. That

584
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 2: was a good Carolina team. Anyway, I at the time

585
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 2: Mysterious day job was fired up. We were doing the show.

586
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Speaker 2: I was so fired up for this game. I had

587
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 2: no rooting interest whatsoever, but I was so freaking fired

588
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 2: up for this game. Six PM game. Solid wife Kate

589
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 2: was not at home when this game kicked off, but

590
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 2: she came in right around the time that I was

591
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 2: still fired up from listening to Sandstorm. Nobody was in

592
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 2: the house. I was running around the house, stand running

593
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 2: around the house doing primal screams as the Sandstorm thing

594
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 2: is playing, and as like. I was so fired up

595
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 2: for that game, and it lived up to the expectations

596
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 2: I was. Kate came in, she was like, what is

597
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 2: going on here? This is short. We're only a few

598
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 2: months married. She's like, what do we do? We need

599
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 2: to call this off? Like, what is what is going

600
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Speaker 2: on here? Why are you so excited for this?

601
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 1: Yeah?

602
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 2: So to answer the fans, just a fans question, I

603
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 2: don't know if we could do better than this like cool.

604
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 2: I listened to Metallica enters Sandman getting ready for this

605
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 2: show after I saw the question, Yeah, I'm not sure

606
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 2: we can do better than these.

607
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: I I don't think we should question harmless traditions. And

608
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 1: there is always going to be something cheeseball about music

609
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 1: and sports. It's the reason why everybody's attempt at like

610
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 1: the hype rap song comes out terribly, most of them,

611
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 1: other than Freak Bass. Obviously May May He and that

612
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 1: tone live forever. That was Notre Dame right, an attempt.

613
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 2: To make talk about freak base on the show. You

614
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 2: know that.

615
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 1: No, I think the cheese is the appeal. You can

616
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Speaker 1: look back like I'm sure you have relatives and you

617
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: look back at their wedding pictures where you're like, wow,

618
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: that that's an unfortunate tuxedo. You're like, but you don't

619
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Speaker 1: change anything. Right. The cheese is the appeal. It's where

620
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: the character lies. And even though you might think Sandstorm

621
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Speaker 1: is cheesy, it's our cheesy.

622
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 2: Right.

623
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Speaker 1: If you're a South Carolina fan, you might think enter Sandman,

624
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: this hit sort of pop metal song from whatever it

625
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 1: was the early nineties, is cheeseball for Virginia Tech and

626
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 1: the student section being born. I don't know fifteen years

627
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 1: after that song was released or something like that. But look,

628
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: you look at soccer when you'll never walk alone in Liverpool,

629
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 1: like you have to embrace the cheese and so sure,

630
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 1: you could do a relatively new song or a song

631
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Speaker 1: that's aged better than Sandstorm or Enter Salman or whatever,

632
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 1: but it's not the same. Those songs resonate with fan

633
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 1: bases and situations for a reason. Look, if you want

634
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 1: to do like in the Air Tonight or something like that,

635
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,719
Speaker 1: I get it. That's cool. It's its own kind of cheese,

636
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 1: but there's nothing better than the ownership of cheese. Within

637
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 1: sports traditions.

638
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 2: More teams should use, or at least some teams should

639
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 2: use Lose Yourself by eminem M. I know it's sort

640
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 2: of overdone. Everyone makes the pump up video that that one.

641
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 2: They more more team should use that one, but beyond that, like,

642
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,280
Speaker 2: I'm okay with the standard issue intro songs.

643
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, you could use the beginning of Lose Yourself. That's

644
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,720
Speaker 1: an iconic opening and obviously saying a number of teams

645
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 1: have embraced seven Nation Army as that's more mid game.

646
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 2: You can't you can use that a third down. You

647
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 2: can't use that to walk into the stadium.

648
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 1: It's a little too Oregon uses wolf Mother. Yeah, Don

649
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 1: Don Don Don Don Don, the Joker and the Thief.

650
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, you can. You can go cooler. But the

651
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 1: teams that get it, you know, and they have their

652
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Speaker 1: between third and fourth quarter tradition, Like jump around is

653
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 1: not a song that we're all you know, replaying on

654
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: our Spotify mixes, but you never change that. Oregon plays

655
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 1: Shout between the third and fourth quarter. I think Texas

656
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 1: copied Wisconsin would jump around as well between the third

657
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 1: and fourth Courter Alabama, Dixie Land Delight. These are all

658
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 1: cheesy song things that are never going to be mistaken

659
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 1: for concertos or something like that, but there ares I

660
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 1: don't think you seek to improve. Whatever resonates resonates for

661
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: a reason and we just lock it in.

662
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 2: Danny from verballers dot com wants to know who is

663
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Speaker 2: the best slash, most endearing, slash biggest cult hero backup

664
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Speaker 2: quarterback in college football over the years. This is a

665
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 2: deep cut, Danny, Thank you for this question. Yeah, for

666
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 2: this question. I think it's fine if you started a

667
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 2: few games here and there, but I don't think you

668
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 2: qualify if you started a full season. This is a

669
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Speaker 2: very deep cut. I meant that when I said it,

670
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 2: calt hero backup quarterback Dan. Do you have any names

671
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:47,439
Speaker 2: that come to mind?

672
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 1: Well, you can look at you know, called hero walk

673
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: ons who started for a specific game, But I like,

674
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think you have to accomplish a

675
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: little bit, more like you have to randomly jump up

676
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: and beat a rival or win a huge, huge game.

677
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,959
Speaker 1: The obvious answer to me somebody who will always be

678
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 1: it seems to be beloved for the rest of time

679
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 1: because of what they were able to accomplish, not as

680
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 1: a backup, but as a third strin. It's probably Cardell

681
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 1: Jones comes in absolutely destroys. I believe Wisconsin in the

682
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 1: Big Ten Championship game and beats Oregon, beats Alabama to

683
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: win the national championship. I don't know that you can

684
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 1: write a more folksy hero type story. Didn't work out.

685
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 1: The following year had sort of up and down, was

686
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: benched when he was named the starter over J T.

687
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 1: Barrett and went pro and everything like that. But I

688
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 1: think as a personality, I think people remember him pretty

689
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 1: fondly in Columbus. If I'm not mistaken. Maybe I'm missing

690
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: something here hasn't worked out in the NFL and XFL, CFL.

691
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:51,839
Speaker 1: But in terms of coming in cold and not the

692
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 1: most polished passer and full on winning a national championship, man,

693
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Speaker 1: I don't know that you get on a higher level

694
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: than that. But in terms of favorites, do you have

695
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: personal favorites Guys who jumped up and started a couple

696
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: games were interesting but never really worked out.

697
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 2: I Blake Bell does not rise to cult hero status.

698
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 2: He had a cool nickname, yep, the Bell Dozer. That

699
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 2: was one that came to mind for me. Of course,

700
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 2: there are plenty of backup quarterbacks at Notre Dame or

701
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:30,919
Speaker 2: Appends like your respective teams. You tend to I think,

702
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 2: hope and pray that maybe there is something there in

703
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 2: the backup ranks that can help you in your time

704
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,959
Speaker 2: of need at quarterback. Notre Dame has not been any

705
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 2: stranger to that. But it's a tough question. I would

706
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 2: welcome suggestions from the verballerhood on this one. I was

707
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 2: racking my brain twenty minutes before this show trying to

708
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 2: figure out who really rises to this level. I don't know.

709
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 1: Greg paulis Gray. He started a season, so that doesn't

710
00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: fully but like coming in as a basketball player, that

711
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 1: was ye.

712
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 2: And that's sort of where I think the hitches in

713
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 2: this question. You do need to have accomplished something, done

714
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 2: something in order to really get to that cult status,

715
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

716
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the problem. Yeah, there are guys that have

717
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 1: come in like Tyler van Dyke did not He's not

718
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 1: cult though, right, he came in, was a backup last

719
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 1: year and was like on the starter. Chandler Morris a

720
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:29,240
Speaker 1: really good example.

721
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, Chandler Morris could be a really good answer to

722
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 2: this question. Maybe he is the best answer to this question.

723
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 2: TCU came in through for five hundred and some odd

724
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 2: yards beat Baylor last year. Right, So Chandler Morris is

725
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 2: an interesting answer. But has he achieved cult hero status.

726
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,359
Speaker 2: He's not going to unless he does more. Right, if

727
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 2: he comes out this year, if he gets the not

728
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 2: over Max Duggan, we'll talk about that in our preview

729
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 2: in a couple episodes, then maybe maybe he achieves that

730
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 2: cult hero status. But for now, he just like want

731
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 2: a big game and had a nice run and like

732
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:03,879
Speaker 2: no one's really talking about him.

733
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Speaker 1: I enjoy stories more than like cult hero backup. I

734
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 1: enjoy stories of a quarterback turns out he's not a quarterback,

735
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 1: switches positions and is just awesome, just terrific at his

736
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 1: new found position. I love those. Also, quarterback buried on

737
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: the depth chart goes to a different and or smaller

738
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 1: place and really takes it to his old team, just

739
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 1: in terms of like, oh, Joe Burrow is probably better

740
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:34,879
Speaker 1: than the people the players who beat him out at

741
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 1: Ohio State, or goes to a smaller place and thrives

742
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,839
Speaker 1: because it's just a better situation for him to go

743
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:45,720
Speaker 1: to and and lock in those I always enjoy those.

744
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: And for whatever reason, you know, maybe gets kicked out

745
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 1: of his first school, maybe it's a Willgrier situation, but

746
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 1: I always enjoy that sort of redemption, got a shot,

747
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 1: didn't work out at its first at the first place.

748
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 1: I think that's a that's a great part of college

749
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 1: football that makes the sports stand out.

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Speaker 2: Rev DJ says devoted Northwestern fan here ooh, sorry, dude, Yeah,

751
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 2: but bowling seems to be the ceiling. Listen, that's a

752
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 2: hell of a ceiling. That's like a stratosphere above the ceiling.

753
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 2: Right now, with what we saw last season. But okay,

754
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 2: point take him. If I want to do experiment outside

755
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 2: my current fandom, who should I picks my side piece team.

756
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 2: We're getting spicy in here. Here are the ground rules.

757
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 2: Team can't be in the Big Ten. Okay, team can't

758
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 2: have national title aspirations. He says, I want to fling,

759
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 2: not an upgrade, fair point, and finally gives me something

760
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 2: that Northwestern can't and won't. This is a great question. Yeah, offense.

761
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: I think he is the electricity in the stadium. Yeah.

762
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 2: Yeah. My first thought was Texas Tech. Texas Tech sort

763
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 2: of like my side peace team this year.

764
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you don't have a concept yet. I don't

765
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 1: have it. Like there are teams that you're like, well,

766
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: they're definitely gonna have an offense. They're definitely going to

767
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 1: develop a quarterback into something fun.

768
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 2: Listen, listen Zach Killey coming down from Western. I got

769
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 2: to believe between him and Joey McGuire and the guys

770
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 2: that are on the team that they will have that offense. Clearly,

771
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 2: there are no national title aspirations. Clearly they are not

772
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Speaker 2: the Big Ten. You know, I'm in love with the

773
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 2: schedule and the weird way that it sets up, so

774
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 2: I could see upsets that definitely would give our question

775
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:32,360
Speaker 2: asker something that he does not get from his Northwestern fandom.

776
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 2: So Texas Tech, I think is an acceptable answer here.

777
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Speaker 1: Whoopig got quarterback development, you got offense, you got fun,

778
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: you got probably not winning a national championship. Same goes

779
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:46,240
Speaker 1: for Ole Miss. Look, Northwestern is on the beaten path

780
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: in terms of where it's located. Wa Zoo is off

781
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: you at least have hope that there's an interesting offense

782
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 1: with an FCS quarterback coming in at Wazoo and a

783
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 1: new coach that you can start over, and that there's

784
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 1: hope springs eternal that there's something there that is mysterious.

785
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 1: There's no mystery to what Northwestern is and isn't. I

786
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 1: would say Louisville, where he's like, whatever Louisville is, they're

787
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: going to have a fun, interesting offense with an experience,

788
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: probably very very good quarterback in Malie Cunningham. That's another

789
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,240
Speaker 1: answer that I would put forth. Not Big ten, interesting

790
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: offense in terms of playmakers and offense that no matter

791
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 1: what happens, you're probably gonna score thirty five points. Not

792
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 1: in the Big Ten, in the Big twelve, Texas Tech

793
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:33,959
Speaker 1: is interesting. Ah, I don't know that there's a big

794
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 1: twelve sure thing offense like Kansas State. I think we

795
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:41,399
Speaker 1: got Duce Vaughan. You have Asia Martinez is a wild card,

796
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,280
Speaker 1: but you'll have good offense. I think Kansas State is interesting.

797
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 1: These are sort of all of my pet teams for

798
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 1: this upcoming season.

799
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 2: So I think I want to zero in on one

800
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 2: thing though. We're all naming offensive minded teams. Yeah, and

801
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,280
Speaker 2: the reason we're doing that is because Northwestern has no offense.

802
00:42:56,480 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 2: But Northwestern has just been bad. They've been bad.

803
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, they might not have much of a defense too. Yeah.

804
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's sort of where I'm going with this.

805
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 2: It doesn't necessarily need to be a team that has

806
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 2: a killer offense. I think it needs to be a

807
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 2: team that is just competent and exciting to watch.

808
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: Entertaining.

809
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, just entertaining, because there's been that's the problem. If

810
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 2: you're a Northwestern fan. The problem is not I mean,

811
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 2: the offense has crobly been the problem, right, but there's

812
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 2: just been no entertainment value, no reason to watch on

813
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 2: Saturdays because it's been so damn boring.

814
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: I mean, Tennessee is an interesting answer there. I think

815
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:34,240
Speaker 1: there are plenty within the SEC, so either the same

816
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,439
Speaker 1: or similar time zone will make it easier to watch. Yeah,

817
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 1: I think that's my.

818
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 2: Answer, Jason says, am I naive to be excited for

819
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:46,399
Speaker 2: the future of my Group of five program? He says,

820
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 2: I've been listening to the recent shows, and there's a

821
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,280
Speaker 2: lot of doom and gloom about the future of the sport.

822
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 2: I think at one point Dan talked about bigger programs

823
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 2: grinding the bones of lesser programs to feast on something. Yeah,

824
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 2: I'm just wondering if I'm wrong to still be excited

825
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 2: about the future of my team. My team is UAB

826
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 2: and I have never reasonably expected they would ever compete

827
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 2: with the big teams, but they've had an upward trajectory

828
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 2: both on the field in terms of conference championship wins

829
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 2: and off the field in terms of new athletic facilities, stadium,

830
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera since the program was resurrected. I

831
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 2: have been hopeful that that trend could continue and that

832
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 2: they could eventually gain the respect as a solid, reliable

833
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 2: G five program like Boise State or the like. But

834
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 2: with the recent episodes of wondering if I'm being an idiot,

835
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 2: so now naive to be excited for the future of

836
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 2: my G five program. This is a very well thought

837
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Speaker 2: out m HM question. Jason, thank you for submitting this.

838
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 2: We appreciate it. Is he wronged? It is? Are you

839
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 2: telling Jason he's an idiot?

840
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 1: No, I am. I am pessimistic about the business of

841
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:57,359
Speaker 1: G five football moving forward. Unless you're in a big

842
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 1: market like San Diego State, you should be pretty be

843
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 1: about their future because they're building a new stadium, it's

844
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 1: a big place in a big city, and it looks

845
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 1: like at some point they're probably going to join the

846
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 1: PAC twelve. Like that's the obvious addition to the PAC

847
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 1: twelve geographically and size wise. So like, there are some

848
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 1: situations where like, if you want to be considered more

849
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 1: big time, you want to be more excited about the

850
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 1: big time future of your program. Sure, the business side

851
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 1: of things, but with something Dan Carlin talked about which

852
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:27,359
Speaker 1: we've talked about as well, that as things consolidate and

853
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 1: become more about the bottom line and become sort of

854
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 1: ruthlessly cold and mercenary like about the top of Power

855
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 1: five football, that the charm, the fun, the spirit, the

856
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 1: intention of college football whatever that means is going to

857
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 1: rest a lot more with the Mountain West, with the

858
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 1: sun Belt, especially where the sun Belt is heading in

859
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 1: the Mountain West is at the moment with the American Like,

860
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 1: there is a lot more not to be like this

861
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 1: is what called football should be Like that's a weird,

862
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:05,879
Speaker 1: fraught way of thinking. But it's going to be more

863
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,479
Speaker 1: about the football. It's absolutely going to be more about

864
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 1: the football there. It's going to be about business in

865
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 1: its own way. As you know, the Conference USA has

866
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 1: taken a pretty significant hit, but we don't have to

867
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 1: worry about market size, we don't have to worry about

868
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 1: conference networks. There's you can just say this UAB Houston

869
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 1: game was awesome and that we're not thinking about it

870
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 1: within necessarily the context of the playoff. You're just looking

871
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 1: at it because it is a fun product that we

872
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,439
Speaker 1: can enjoy and we root for the team in green,

873
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 1: or we root for the team in red, or we

874
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: root for the team in navy blue or whatever. That

875
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 1: there is something that is going to become to me

876
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 1: much more romantic about the have nots. Whether that is

877
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 1: a viable long term business model, we'll see. But as

878
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:54,799
Speaker 1: long as we have it there is something that we

879
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: can just sort of hey, look, there's portal, there's nil,

880
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,360
Speaker 1: there's all those things that apply to everybody. But that

881
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 1: we don't have to look at it through the very

882
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 1: specific cold lens through which we've been looking at the

883
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 1: sport lately. I think is a positive and a plus

884
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 1: for sure.

885
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, what was Stallone's quote and demolition man

886
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 2: all restaurants are now Taco Bell. If we get to

887
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 2: that situation in college football where it's very corporate and

888
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 2: very big business and very money driven, especially at the top,

889
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 2: I think there will be a lot of value in

890
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 2: the character a little bit further down that ladder, right.

891
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:29,439
Speaker 2: I don't want to say at the bottom. I don't

892
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 2: mean the bottom now, but no, but you know what

893
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 2: I mean. But beneath that kind of stratospheric level of

894
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 2: big money college football, there's a lot of charm in

895
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,800
Speaker 2: the local restaurant, right, There's a lot of charm in that.

896
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 2: That's where you and I like to go. So I

897
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 2: don't not to say we're going to turn into a

898
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 2: UAB show. I guess we could, yep, But no, I

899
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 2: don't think you're an idiot, Jason.

900
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:52,959
Speaker 1: I want to speak on your behalf. When you say

901
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 1: and I say charm and spirit. We're not like patting

902
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 1: G five schools or conferences on the head like good

903
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,399
Speaker 1: for you, a little guy, keep getting after it. No, no,

904
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't mean that at all. It's just

905
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 1: it's going to be the place where we can just

906
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:09,800
Speaker 1: talk about football for football's sake. Now, whether the best receiver,

907
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: or the best quarterback or the best left tackle gets

908
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:16,800
Speaker 1: plundered by Oklahoma or you know, Michigan State or something

909
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:20,360
Speaker 1: like that, there's that reality that's unfortunate and a bummer,

910
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 1: but it might just emerge as the place where it's

911
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 1: more fun. I just talk about football. It's more fun

912
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:32,240
Speaker 1: to just talk about the American or the Sun Belt.

913
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 1: Or if conferences like the Big twelve or Pac twelve

914
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 1: or ACC are left behind, then we the weight of

915
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 1: trying to defend where the top of the sport is

916
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,839
Speaker 1: going will be lifted when you can just talk about

917
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 1: football with some other conferences.

918
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:50,359
Speaker 2: Let's go over to will do you expect more Atlantic

919
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 2: anarchy or coastal chaos in the ACC this year? Newsflash? Will,

920
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 2: We've already recorded our ACC previews. You will be hearing

921
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 2: those two towards the latter half of next week. You

922
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 2: did the Atlantic. I did the Coastal, the Fatlantic, and Postal,

923
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,919
Speaker 2: as we've lovingly referred to each division on this show

924
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 2: over the years. I know where I stand on this.

925
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 2: I did the preview for the Coastal. I think definitively

926
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 2: the Coastal is the answer here, namely because you've got

927
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 2: two teams at the top in my view, in pitt

928
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 2: and Miami, who will be contending for that side of

929
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 2: the conference. You've got three teams beneath those top two

930
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 2: in the form of North Carolina, Virginia and Virginia Tech.

931
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 2: Those three teams are finding out who they are this

932
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:40,360
Speaker 2: coming season, and I think there's a lot of potential

933
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 2: there for just weird upsets. There's always potential for a

934
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 2: lot of weird upsets in the ACC, but sure, I think,

935
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 2: especially this year in the Coastal, I could see that

936
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 2: like middle rung, that middle grouping of teams wreaking some havoc.

937
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 2: And then beneath that you've got teams that I would

938
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 2: say generally stink, in the form of Duke and Georgia Tech.

939
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 2: But Duke's in an interesting spot because it got a

940
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 2: new coach, a guy who can coach defense and should

941
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 2: hopefully improve that defense and make them a little bit

942
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 2: more competitive than they were last year because they're awful.

943
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 2: And on the Georgia Tech side, I don't think they're

944
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 2: going to be good, but they're really at the stage

945
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 2: now of Jeff collins tenure where he's just throwing it

946
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 2: against the wall like everything he could think of. They

947
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 2: got transfers, it's like everything in the world that came

948
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 2: to mind in the offseason. He's trying, and so there's

949
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 2: always potential for some weirdness to happen. Even if they stay,

950
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 2: even they go two to ten, one of those games

951
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,240
Speaker 2: could be a crazy upset of someone like a Miami

952
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 2: who knows. So I think definitively for me, the answers.

953
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 1: Coast could not disagree more. You could have, if I'm

954
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 1: reading this correctly, if I'm reading my divisions correctly, you

955
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 1: could have Duke, Georgia Tech, and the Virginia schools. And

956
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,360
Speaker 1: this is all due respect to Brennan Armstrong, Key Tom Thompson.

957
00:50:56,400 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 1: You could have those four schools with new coaches, or

958
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 1: they're just not good at Georgia Tech at this point.

959
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 1: Just be bad for catastrophic stretches of the season, whereas

960
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 1: the Atlantic, the favorite, arguably has the worst or second

961
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 1: worst quarterback in the division starting the season. That because

962
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 1: of the depth of quarterback quality in the Atlantic, I

963
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 1: think there is more possibility for variance in results that

964
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 1: on any given week, Jordan Travis and the Florida State

965
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 1: offense with a couple key transfers could jump up and

966
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 1: beat somebody. Sam goes from Elie Cunningham, Devin Larry, Sam Hartman,

967
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:43,879
Speaker 1: Phil Jerkovic that on any given Saturday, one of those

968
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:47,839
Speaker 1: guys playing out of their minds or just to their

969
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:52,240
Speaker 1: ceiling can beat pretty much anybody in the conference. Whereas

970
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 1: if we're going to have a conversation about the Duke

971
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:57,240
Speaker 1: offense of the Georgia Tech offense or Virginia's new offense

972
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 1: or Virginia Tech's offense, where it's just like, yeah, they

973
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 1: might jump up and figure things out for a week,

974
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 1: But over the course of the season, I think we're

975
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 1: going to have a more interesting week to week Atlantic

976
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 1: than Coastal because of quarterback quality.

977
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 2: Well, the quarterback quality, yeah, for sure, the quarterback quality

978
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 2: is there, but on the Coastal side, there's a lot

979
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 2: of turnover, There's a lot of change. Every team on

980
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 2: the coastal side of things is going through a period

981
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 2: of just rapid change, whether it's Pit losing the quarterback,

982
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 2: whether it's Miami with this with this incredible wave coming

983
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 2: in in the offseason, with Mario, Crystal Ball and a

984
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 2: whole new coaching staff. I mean, it really runs the

985
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 2: gamut in terms of change. So you tell us, Will,

986
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 2: which do you prefer. Do you prefer the quarterbacks that

987
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 2: could make it happen and make things interesting, or do

988
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 2: you prefer just the rapid pace of change elsewhere on

989
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 2: the coastal I don't know. It's a good question.

990
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:52,840
Speaker 1: The ACC.

991
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 2: The ACC always gives us this. By the way we

992
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 2: play the game. In week nine, did Duke play Wake

993
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 2: far Did Wake far As play? Like? Trying to figure

994
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 2: out who played whom? Is a weekly game and a

995
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 2: weekly thought experiment that you and I have to go

996
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 2: through when we do this show. But good question. Okay,

997
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 2: A couple couple more quick ones here. Dan wants to

998
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 2: know best helmet paint style Matt bowling ball, shiny multicolor, fade, mirror,

999
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 2: satin stripes, no stripes. What do you think?

1000
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 1: Okay? Lot of thoughts here. Yeah, Oregon guy, of course

1001
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 1: you get Yeah. But you give me a white helmet,

1002
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 1: whether it's an alternate helmet or just your usual, you know,

1003
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 1: run of the mill Texas helmet, it just pops, It

1004
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 1: just pops. You give me an updated alternate helmet. And

1005
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 1: I don't care about the chrome look as well. That's

1006
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 1: been done by a number of teams at this point.

1007
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 1: That that's fine. I don't just sort of neutral on it.

1008
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:54,359
Speaker 1: But the best type of helmet to me is a

1009
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 1: throwback inspired, not overly crazy. But you give me a

1010
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 1: state out line, You give me a number, you know,

1011
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 1: the player's number on the helmet. You give me like

1012
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 1: remember when Indiana went back and introduced a number of

1013
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,760
Speaker 1: new helmet style. Some of them worked, some of them didn't.

1014
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:13,439
Speaker 1: They had like the candy stripechrome, but then they had

1015
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:16,399
Speaker 1: the outline and the state fly like stuff like that

1016
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 1: always just resonates with me because it's it's personal to

1017
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 1: the school, it's personal to the school's history. You do

1018
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:26,240
Speaker 1: an updated version of an old script logo on the helmet,

1019
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:30,720
Speaker 1: that's great by me. Trying to look so modern and sleek,

1020
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 1: and we're going to introduce this new angry bird version

1021
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 1: of art like that doesn't do it for me. So

1022
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:39,720
Speaker 1: that's more logo. But helmet wise, you keep it simple.

1023
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 1: You have a white option and you do something as

1024
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 1: it relates to the home state or an old logo,

1025
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 1: something throwback inspired without it being you know what the

1026
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers did a few years ago with like

1027
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 1: the weird brown and black, yellow and black stripes. I

1028
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 1: know the Steelers had one of those as well. If

1029
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 1: you can sort of use restraint in a throwback look,

1030
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 1: a clean throwback look, that that gets my juices flowing.

1031
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 2: The alternate color being used more prominently in a helmet

1032
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 2: gets it done for me. I know the New Bears

1033
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:19,439
Speaker 2: alternate helmet that they just released, the orange one got

1034
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 2: bad reviews online. I kind of liked it. I like it,

1035
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 2: like I'm cool, I'm cool with that. I'm okay with that.

1036
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 2: The Bengals, the Bengals are doing the white tiger look

1037
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:34,760
Speaker 2: on their helmet. Like to your point of the white helmet,

1038
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 2: the bang of think the Cincinnati Bengals helmet but with

1039
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 2: white and black stripes looks amazing.

1040
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:46,360
Speaker 1: But the alternate black look, the black uniforms and black helmet,

1041
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 1: like eh, doesn't do it for me.

1042
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:50,879
Speaker 2: See, this is where I this is where I disagree. Yeah,

1043
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 2: I love a good black Matt helmet. Boise did this

1044
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 2: with their helmet a couple of years ago. Just the

1045
00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:00,799
Speaker 2: black on black the Matt like it gives it a

1046
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 2: controlled intensity that I really dig. That I'm really into.

1047
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 1: But the thing is, when everybody can do it, we're

1048
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 1: just like it's our unfor but black.

1049
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 2: But not everybody does do it. Not everybody like more

1050
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 2: and more, well, more and more. But I was on

1051
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 2: it before it was cool, Like I like when Hooise

1052
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 2: did it. Oklahoma State I want to believe had a

1053
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 2: look like this as well. That will be a lot

1054
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 2: of cool. Yeah, I haven't found that many teams that

1055
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 2: I don't like when they give it a try. So

1056
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 2: I'm into the black Matt look. I'm definitely into the

1057
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:37,360
Speaker 2: alternate color look. I'm a sucker for a throwback logo.

1058
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 2: The throwback logo like an old mascot from Afar, Like,

1059
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 2: you know, let's go like a New England Patriots, the

1060
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 2: guy with the three cornered hat, snap in the ball, like,

1061
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 2: let's let's do more of that. I'm cool with that.

1062
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 1: I like gray. Actually, I like the Wazoo Grays. I

1063
00:56:56,040 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 1: like the Oklahoma State Grays. I like the maybe it's

1064
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 1: the baseball you know, old baseball fan in me where

1065
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 1: the road uniform is gray and the logo is a

1066
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:08,360
Speaker 1: little bit different, says the city name instead of the

1067
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 1: team name. You know, when I see somebody wearing a

1068
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 1: baseball jersey, my first thought is, come on, dude, you're

1069
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 1: forty seven. You don't need to be wearing this. My

1070
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 1: second thought is if they're wearing the road jersey, that

1071
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 1: it looks infinitely cooler than the home.

1072
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 2: And that's a fan too, by the way, yes, going

1073
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 2: road jersey. The only thing that I really don't like

1074
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 2: as it relates to helmet art, I don't like when

1075
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:36,439
Speaker 2: they've got the asymmetrical look. I don't like when one

1076
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Speaker 2: side is different than the other. Notre Dame did this

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00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 2: with the Shamrock series where they had like two different

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00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 2: helmets on either side. Don't do that, you're confusing me,

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Speaker 2: don't please.

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Speaker 1: I don't like the fade, But do do you mind

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00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 1: it if there's a throwback look where on one side

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00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 1: it's like a state outline, right, it's the state outline

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00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:54,440
Speaker 1: of Illinois. It's, you know, an Illinois throwback. I don't

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00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 1: know if this is the case where it's you know,

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Speaker 1: an orange helmet all the way around. You got a

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Speaker 1: navy stripe going down the middle. One side is the

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Speaker 1: outline of Illinois or an old block or a script eye,

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Speaker 1: and then on the other side it's the number.

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Speaker 2: Nuh. I don't like that where it's forty three. Give

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Speaker 2: me the same, okay with that? I'm not yeah, I

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00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 2: need the same thing on both sides. Don't confuse me.

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Speaker 2: It's hard enough to watch a game. You got you know,

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00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 2: painted lines, the computer generated painted lines, and you got

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00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 2: to listen to the commentators and they're challenging every other

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Speaker 2: play and they're stopping. Just no, no.

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Speaker 1: I love the cleaned up throwback look though, especially when

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Speaker 1: there is a range of color palettes where you're like,

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Speaker 1: you know that they wore this shade in nineteen seventy seven. No,

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Speaker 1: when you introduced to me that Michigan State standard green

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Speaker 1: and Neon green palette at the same time, I'm fully out.

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Speaker 1: I'm fully out and just yeah, sorry, I can go

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Speaker 1: on and on for a while. Let's give me another one.

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Speaker 2: We are going to do one more question.

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Speaker 1: Here that we'll do as many as we want.

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Speaker 2: The one that I want to ask you is about

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Speaker 2: ideal snack food lineup.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, I mean that's that's always a topic. I'm

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Speaker 1: happy to discuss.

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Speaker 2: Ideal game day snack food lineup when you're at home,

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Speaker 2: not tailgating. Not tailgating is important here.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 2: Personally, my pick is boneless wings. This is not for me,

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Speaker 2: but someone named Tyler.

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Speaker 1: Interestingly, Tyler says boneless wings, which are actually not a thing.

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Speaker 1: But continue, My pick is boneless wings, mozzarella sticks and

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Speaker 1: chips and salsa. So this is just a very like

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Speaker 1: every man question. TYLERK, what snack to you're eating while

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Speaker 1: you're watching the game at home? So do you want

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Speaker 1: to go through your ideal eating day for college football consumption? Consumption?

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Speaker 1: I would love for you to do so.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't. I don't because I don't have strong

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Speaker 2: opinions on this, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, like I am.

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Speaker 2: If if I have my pick of the proverbial litter

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Speaker 2: is a restaurant's pretty close by. It makes good food.

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Speaker 2: I like ordering a couple appetizers, having them on hand,

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Speaker 2: stuff that you can leave out if it goes cold.

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Speaker 2: It's not gonna go bad. You can just kind of

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Speaker 2: pick and choose throughout the course of the day. That's

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Speaker 2: my idea for a food set up on any given Saturday.

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01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 2: In terms of snacks, I'm big on the chips and salsa.

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01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 2: I'm big on any kind of dip. We've talked about this, right,

1133
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 2: it's salsa season, by the way. I've got a great

1134
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Speaker 2: recipe because it's tomato season. Go out to a farmer's

1135
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 2: market or something, get some some romas. Oh my god, Ty,

1136
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 2: if you're a salsa boy, I know you don't make

1137
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 2: your sauceas I know you can go get good saluces

1138
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Speaker 2: at stores or wherever. But just once, just once, humor me.

1139
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 2: If you're tie, if you're listening to this right now,

1140
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Speaker 2: and you can get good tomatoes where you are, preferably

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Speaker 2: from like a local farmers mark or whatever, just because

1142
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 2: it's good to support local. Ah, it's such a game changer. Yeah,

1143
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 2: it's such a big time move.

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Speaker 1: Continue.

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Speaker 2: I have two answers here in terms of snack food lineup,

1146
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 2: all right. The first is the chips, that you can

1147
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 2: have an assortment of dips, so some sort of pico

1148
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:12,400
Speaker 2: style you know, salsa thing, right, whether it's store bought,

1149
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 2: whether it's something that you make on your own. Also

1150
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 2: having a good guak and maybe some case so that

1151
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:21,080
Speaker 2: you can dip in, and you give yourself three options there, right,

1152
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 2: standard issue, easy to do. The second thing is, this

1153
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:26,320
Speaker 2: is going to be a really weird answer, and I

1154
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 2: know I'm going to take heat for this, but I

1155
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:31,440
Speaker 2: don't care. It's my show. I like a good vegetable.

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Speaker 1: Tray, crew to tay.

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Speaker 2: I like it. I like a good vegetable tray with

1158
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:39,479
Speaker 2: the big a big vat of ranch dressing or whatever

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01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:40,439
Speaker 2: you're into in the middle.

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Speaker 1: Nothing wrong with that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a problem with baby carrots. I can't

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01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 2: stop eating baby carrots. I can eat my weight at

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01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:52,480
Speaker 2: any given sitting in baby carrots and ranch dip, and so,

1164
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 2: you know, at least it feels healthier. It feels healthier

1165
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 2: when it's just a ranch dress vehicle.

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01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 1: Sure right.

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Speaker 2: I mean you have crazy gas if you eat that

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01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:06,480
Speaker 2: many baby carrots in broccoli, and you know, throughout the

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Speaker 2: course of the Saturday, I mean it's a long day

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Speaker 2: in many respects. But those are probably my two answers here, Tyler.

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Speaker 1: I really like making breakfast tacos later in the morning.

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Speaker 1: Games start here at eleventh Central. I like breakfast tacos,

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01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:26,520
Speaker 1: I like anything handheld for football. I generally like ordering

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01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 1: dinner just because I don't have the energy at that

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Speaker 1: point that late in the day. I'm up pretty early.

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Speaker 1: I spend a lot of time with the boys in

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Speaker 1: the morning because I know I'm not going to be

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Speaker 1: on Saturdays spending as much time on the weekends with

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Speaker 1: them as I normally am during the off season. So

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Speaker 1: by the time five, six, seven o'clock rolls around, something takeout,

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Speaker 1: something ordered, I don't think. I don't know how much

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Speaker 1: pizza I'll be making this fall on Saturday Sunday situations,

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Speaker 1: probably Fridays still, that's what my main pizza bake day is.

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01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 1: But yeah, I if I'm up early, which i i'm

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01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:02,000
Speaker 1: myng we'll have at six am. I'll generally go for

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01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:04,720
Speaker 1: a run or some kind of exercise tennis or something,

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01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:06,720
Speaker 1: or I'll try to lift and do some strength stuff

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01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:08,920
Speaker 1: on Saturday morning. So I'm pretty hungry for when I

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Speaker 1: start eating midday, So breakfast tacos get me the calories,

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Speaker 1: but it doesn't fully put me down for the count.

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Speaker 1: Like eating like a giant sub or ho gear, whatever

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Speaker 1: you call it, would be for lunch, big sandwich snack

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01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 1: food wise, Guawk is Guawk salsa. You know, I like Nacho's.

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Speaker 1: I made a really good version. I like roasting up

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Speaker 1: my vegetables. I don't like raw vegetables all that much.

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Speaker 1: I don't like salad that much. I love a giant

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Speaker 1: pile of roast vegetables. I did it with cauliflower and

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Speaker 1: some sort of spicy peanut dip that was really good,

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Speaker 1: like a saracha crispy roast cauliflower that was very good

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Speaker 1: for a snack. I forget where I got I think

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01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:52,960
Speaker 1: it's bad Manners is where I got that recipe. But

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Speaker 1: in terms of snack food, I just look, this is

1203
01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:58,920
Speaker 1: very specific to places that have a trader Jose. You're

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01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:02,000
Speaker 1: just not going to get better creative snack food than

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Speaker 1: you are at teach, So I generally go in that direction.

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Speaker 1: I try to avoid sugar on Saturdays because it'll it'll

1207
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 1: mess with how tired you get. I'll do the coffee nap.

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Speaker 1: We've talked about that before. Just in terms of consumption,

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01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 1: you have to start slow with eating. But if you

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01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:26,560
Speaker 1: get tired mid afternoon, have a quick ice coffee, close

1211
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 1: your eyes for twenty to twenty five minutes, send an

1212
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:31,920
Speaker 1: alarm and you will pop up ready to roll for

1213
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:35,280
Speaker 1: the late pac twelve games or whatever. That's the move there.

1214
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Speaker 1: But yeah, I am pretty fond of like get some

1215
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:41,440
Speaker 1: like Korean fried chicken at night or something like that.

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Speaker 1: I always love that. So yeah, ideally I start slow.

1217
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:49,080
Speaker 1: I only have coffee, you know, black coffee in the mornings,

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01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:52,080
Speaker 1: and then yeah, hit me with hit me with some

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01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 1: breakfast tacos midday. That's great.

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Speaker 2: Thank you mister Tyler for that question. Thank you to

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Speaker 2: one and all who sent in questions. We got a

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Speaker 2: number here, many of which we did not have a

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Speaker 2: chance to get through. What we will do, though, is

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Speaker 2: we will include these on our doc as we do

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Speaker 2: our bruin a later in the week over at verbowlers

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Speaker 2: Q and A episode, and we will carry over some

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Speaker 2: of those questions too that show.

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Speaker 1: Definitely.

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Speaker 2: As we said, previews start up on Thursday. Come on

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Speaker 2: back on Thursday, we are doing our first episode of

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Speaker 2: our ten part preview series. Yeah. On Thursday, we're starting

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Speaker 2: off with the Big twelve. We're starting off with what's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and not many people know this. It's sort of

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Speaker 1: like the secret menu item with the live shows that

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Speaker 1: if you've been you know this. But uh, if you

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Speaker 1: happen upon tie you know, either the lobby of the

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Speaker 1: venue or the after show, you know tops whatever you

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Speaker 1: can ask tye and he'll generally let you smell his hair,

1258
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Speaker 1: Like that is a thing that only if you've attended

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Speaker 1: line shows you might wearing a hat.

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Speaker 2: It's decided, I'm wearing a hat.

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Speaker 1: And honestly, you can just sneak up behind him and

1262
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Speaker 1: take a big old whiff and he's just like, hey,

1263
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Speaker 1: appreciate that. Thank you. So a lot of people know that,

1264
01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:05,640
Speaker 1: but Ty will generally oblige people who are interested in

1265
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Speaker 1: smelling him.

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Speaker 2: So for that guy over there, my weird co host

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Speaker 2: Dan Rubinstein, for myself, Tie Hildebrand, thanks so much for downloading,

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Speaker 2: listening playing along at home. We will talk to you

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Speaker 2: all on Thursday next so peace,