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Speaker 1: And That's what You Really Missed with Jenna.

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Speaker 2: And Kevin an iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to and That's what You Really miss podcast. Kevin,

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Speaker 1: we got Jenna, We got him, We did we got him.

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Speaker 1: Brad Beaker is here. Everybody. You've heard his name about

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Speaker 1: a million times on this podcast. He was such an

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Speaker 1: integral part of the shaping of the show, which we'll

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Speaker 1: learn about about directing a thousand episodes.

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Speaker 2: The season's worth of episodes.

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Speaker 1: He always did the big ones because there was just

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Speaker 1: he always could. He could handle it. They just knew

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Speaker 1: and we are always in the best hands. He did

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Speaker 1: excellent work. We love him, his family and you guys

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Speaker 1: are not gonna want to miss this now.

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Speaker 2: This is one of our favorite interviews that we've ever done.

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Speaker 2: This is Brad Beaker. I remember us.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, it's been so long.

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Speaker 1: I was just saying that, that's it's crazy.

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Speaker 3: How you doing.

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Speaker 1: We're good, How are you good? Thanks for coming on.

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Speaker 3: It's great to see you guys.

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Speaker 2: Likewise, also, Brad is like the busiest person in the

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Speaker 2: entire world, So thank you for finding the time to

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Speaker 2: talk to us because it means a lot. We needed you.

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Speaker 2: You were an integral part of this damn show. Yes,

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Speaker 2: we talk about you all the time.

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Speaker 3: I'm so excited to be here. It's like it I

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Speaker 3: texted you, guys.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if it ever actually went through, but

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Speaker 4: it was like when I saw you were doing the podcast,

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Speaker 4: I I was like, oh, I have to hear this.

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Speaker 4: And I listened to the first two hours when Ryan

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Speaker 4: was talking, and I mean, I can't even tell you, guys,

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Speaker 4: I just cried, like, I mean, I really and and

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Speaker 4: it was that thing where it was like when it

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Speaker 4: ended for me, it was like there was kind of

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Speaker 4: just no time to look back.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, Like there was.

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Speaker 4: No I had no reflection and there were all these

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Speaker 4: complicated things all tied up in there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it just all all came flooding. Is just

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Speaker 3: like yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Wow, Well thanks for listening to those. It was an

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Speaker 1: important those were an important two episodes.

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Speaker 2: What's interesting too is we've talked to a lot of

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Speaker 2: crew members and they didn't say it exactly the same way,

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Speaker 2: But I think a lot of people who just you know,

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Speaker 2: you're onto the next show, You're onto the next thing,

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Speaker 2: and you have to keep moving. And obviously we experienced

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Speaker 2: a lot during our time in Glee that I think

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Speaker 2: a lot of people had sort of like the deferred

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Speaker 2: it's so interesting to hear you say that too, like

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Speaker 2: Aaron Kruger was saying.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, really well and it you know, it's like it

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Speaker 4: you have to you have to pay the bills, right,

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Speaker 4: and it was like you just have to go. You

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Speaker 3: But it was so.

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Speaker 4: It was just such a I mean, the show really

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Speaker 4: of felt like it was the.

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Speaker 4: Entire entertainment experience. You know, it's like I had I

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Speaker 4: it was like, you know, I cut the pilot right

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Speaker 4: when we were together, right, it was like all of

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Speaker 4: it was like school. You know of like, hey, this

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you did over and over and over again

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Speaker 2: you became It's from our perspective, I don't think it

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Speaker 2: steady hand, which I think is why you ended up

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Speaker 2: At some point like oh, you know who could do

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Speaker 1: Get all the shots, get all the footage. Sweet, Let's

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Speaker 4: Okay, So I mean it was hilarious because so I'd

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Speaker 4: and you know, Ryan went all in on this pretty

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Speaker 4: you know, there's this thing about a glee club, you know,

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Speaker 4: I auditioned for the glee club three times.

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Speaker 3: Never made it. What never made it? Yep? I could sing,

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Speaker 2: It didn't stop a lot of our cast.

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Speaker 3: Very good, Kevin, it was very.

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Speaker 4: I was always very aligned to Finn's story, right but

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Speaker 3: That was where I grew up.

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Speaker 1: You're the closest connection we have to Limo.

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Speaker 4: I may have been the only person on the producer's

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Speaker 2: Oh for sure. I don't think that's a maybe.

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Speaker 4: But you know, I was like, I remember being like,

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Speaker 3: You shoot it?

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Speaker 4: And Chris would be like, Chris and I were so different.

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Speaker 3: And but Ryan would just sit and listen and be

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Speaker 2: Wow. I really yeah. I never knew that even happened.

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Speaker 2: Because in that pilot, as you do with pilots, one

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, and he just he spent.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Ryan is so brilliant and he just he spent.

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Speaker 4: Him and and I was like, Ryan, the pilot is

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Speaker 4: It's like if it's adults sitting in a room talking.

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Speaker 4: didn't go.

442
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,720
Speaker 3: All the way out the door, right right, yeah, And

443
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 3: it's like just a simple reset yeah right, yeah.

444
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's like okay, just always please reset.

445
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 2: Right.

446
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,880
Speaker 1: That's an editor director right there.

447
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 2: Right when it came time for you to direct your

448
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 2: first episode kids never yeah, I mean such a great one.

449
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,480
Speaker 2: How did how did that come about?

450
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 3: Okay? So uh.

451
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 4: And we finished so so basically so, Ryan had sort

452
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 4: of offered me, hey, so when do you want to direct?

453
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 4: Do you want to direct to Nip Tuck or would

454
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,959
Speaker 4: you rather direct a glee And at the time there

455
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,119
Speaker 4: was so much I just kept saying, I want to

456
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 4: do whatever makes me most valuable to you, like I

457
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:22,680
Speaker 4: want to direct. But so in season one, my name

458
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 4: came out on hairography mm hm, right when they put

459
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:30,359
Speaker 4: the first draft of Hierography out. But the studio called

460
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 4: and said, Ryan got on a plane to go to India, right, uh,

461
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 4: scouting for Eat Pray Love, And you've never directed, and

462
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,879
Speaker 4: it's like you have to wait, right my script. My

463
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 4: my name was on the script for SmackDown, right uh.

464
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 4: And again you know, it was like, oh, it's too soon.

465
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 4: It's like there's too much you know.

466
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, And so.

467
00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 2: So it was kind of like it was there were all.

468
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:00,879
Speaker 3: It was in the it was in the water.

469
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 4: I actually the first thing that I ever directed, I

470
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 4: don't know if you remember this, Kevin, was the porta

471
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 4: potty in the pilot when you were stuck in the

472
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:10,679
Speaker 4: porta potty.

473
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:12,119
Speaker 3: Yeah there was.

474
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,120
Speaker 4: Ryan hadn't shot the inside of the porta potty when

475
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:17,120
Speaker 4: you were trapped.

476
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 2: On Yes, yeah, that's right, that's right.

477
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 3: And he sent me out and he was like, go

478
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 3: over there and set that up and you shoot it.

479
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,439
Speaker 2: I do remember. Oh, I completely forgot about that. Oh

480
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 2: my god, because it was like a quick thing. We

481
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,400
Speaker 2: like came over just did that piece, just.

482
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 3: That little thing. Yeah, right.

483
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 2: That felt really fancy to me too, by the way,

484
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,400
Speaker 2: like it was the first time I had been called

485
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 2: to like, oh, we have to go do this thing

486
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 2: that we didn't do before, and I don't know why.

487
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, we're really making a TV show, right.

488
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 2: That felt really like on the fly, you know, go

489
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,399
Speaker 2: get in that costume, go do this. I'm like, yeah, great,

490
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 2: this is so exciting.

491
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 4: Do you remember we took the back out of the Yes,

492
00:25:58,280 --> 00:25:59,400
Speaker 4: the back out of it, so it.

493
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 2: Was like real movie make it like that's what it

494
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:03,639
Speaker 2: was like to be yes.

495
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,679
Speaker 4: But but so when r so basically Ryan came to

496
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 4: me after he play level was like, I'm going to

497
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 4: give you, ah, I'm gonna make it. I'm gonna make

498
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 4: it a special episode. I'm gonna make I'm gonna give

499
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:19,880
Speaker 4: you an episode that counts, right, And I mean that

500
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 4: script was such a gift to be able to. It

501
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 4: was just such a you know, it was it was

502
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 4: such a turning point. It was a twist in its

503
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 4: own way. It was like wheels like wheels was that

504
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 4: it was like it was such a revelation that on

505
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 4: the page that was hands down like the biggest thing

506
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:43,360
Speaker 4: that we did in season one, right to reveal that

507
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 4: Sue you know, had a soft spot, right right right,

508
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 4: and then it was like to take the bully and

509
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 4: you know, make the give the bully a secret.

510
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 3: Right.

511
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 4: But so that was you know that that was the

512
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:06,199
Speaker 4: I mean, he completely set me up to succeed, you know.

513
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 4: And it's like, in hindsight, had you know, had been hierography,

514
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 4: that may have been the only one I ever.

515
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 2: Did, right, Yeah, you know what I mean, because some

516
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 2: of those were trickier. You know, we'd have directors in there, yeah,

517
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 2: and we're like, oh, how are they going to do this?

518
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 2: Because yeah, some of them are just trickier to make,

519
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 2: like some of the kookier things if you would lean

520
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,120
Speaker 2: into them a little too much, like is that going

521
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 2: to work as well? You never know?

522
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 4: But well and right, And it's like some of them were.

523
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 4: And it was one of those things where it was like, look,

524
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 4: I always wanted to direct. I've had no idea that

525
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 4: I would really get to transition out right, you know

526
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,360
Speaker 4: what I mean, Like it was like and had that

527
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 4: episode not been what it was very easy. It's very

528
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 4: lots of people get one episode, right, you know what

529
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 4: I mean, Like you get one chance, and it's like

530
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 4: I've always you know, it's like they say, better better

531
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 4: to be lucky than good, right, And it was.

532
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 3: Like it was I was so lucky.

533
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,880
Speaker 1: It's both, I mean, it was yeah, and I'm sure

534
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:15,919
Speaker 1: you had you had also had an advantage of like

535
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 1: coming in as an editor, knowing what what you're sending

536
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,120
Speaker 1: to the cutting room, right, you know what you need

537
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 1: to get, you know if you have it or not,

538
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 1: if they can make it work with what you've got

539
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: that day, and then also just having the wherewithal like

540
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,199
Speaker 1: we don't need that. There's a bunch of you know,

541
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 1: to make your days. I think the skilled part that

542
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: comes in is like you were so actor friendly, and

543
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 1: most of our directors that we we liked working with

544
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 1: the most worthy, actor friendly ones who came in and

545
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 1: knew the character or helped us kind of like what

546
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 1: we already know about these characters, right, they're like, this

547
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 1: is your house, tummy, and let's collaborate and make this work.

548
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 1: And then having the big picture. So it's it's interesting

549
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: to me because you came and so actor friendly from

550
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 1: the start, and also just with the wherewithal to be like, Okay,

551
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 1: this is this is the vision, here's the plan. We've

552
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 1: got it. You know, we're crossing its shots off the

553
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: big whiteboard.

554
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's incredible.

555
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 4: Well, I felt like I listened to most I listened

556
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 4: to a lot of the podcasts and listening to people

557
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 4: talk and like, you know, the things that you guys

558
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 4: talk about on the show is so interesting because my

559
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 4: experience was so different in so many ways.

560
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 3: Like I felt like.

561
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 4: My job was to just tell the story right and

562
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 4: whatever the story was, whatever it was given. You know,

563
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 4: people lots of people had thoughts about whether this story

564
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 4: or this It was like my job was to make

565
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 4: it work right, and that was my training from the editing.

566
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 4: So it was like, in order to make this work,

567
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 4: the only way I know how to do this is

568
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 4: this right. And it's like as time went on, you know,

569
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 4: or it's like you know, it's like when we lost

570
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 4: Corey and it was like there was always that thing

571
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 4: that was like.

572
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 3: Should the show have ended? Or like.

573
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 4: I could never think about that right, Like that that

574
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 4: just to me, that wasn't my job, right, Like my

575
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 4: job was to show up every day and try to

576
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 4: inspire you guys to lean in in the best possible

577
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 4: way to tell this, Like I I have some funny

578
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 4: memories of like like it was very it was always

579
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 4: just just stay with me, right, And so here here

580
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,719
Speaker 4: a couple of good ones. When we were shooting uh

581
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 4: the funeral. During the we're singing pure imagination. Yeah, everyone's

582
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 4: everyone's in the like lined up in the choir and

583
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 4: we we start rolling and I walk around the back

584
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 4: and there's a curtain back there, and when I opened

585
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 4: the curtain, there are two cast members standing in the

586
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 4: back playing a video game on their phone.

587
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 3: Like during the number.

588
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 2: Oh god.

589
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it was just like, okay, cut, we just

590
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 4: don't do that, right, let's go again. Right, they were

591
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 4: on camera, they were on camera, they were standing in

592
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 4: standing in the back row.

593
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 2: Everyone was like, so they couldn't have been me. They

594
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 2: couldn't have been me.

595
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: You remember this, yes, I do.

596
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that is bold.

597
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: It was a weird It was a weird energy day.

598
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 1: I'll never forget it.

599
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 3: That was a weird day.

600
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.

601
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 4: And then it was you know, there'll be things like

602
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 4: someone would come up and say, you know, like during

603
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 4: during one of the competitions, someone will come up. Let's say, okay, well,

604
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 4: the cast is decided they're not going to sing the

605
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 4: background vocals in the song, right because they didn't record them. Yeah,

606
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 4: And so they've all gotten together and they've all decided

607
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 4: that they're not going to sing the background vocals.

608
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 3: We did that.

609
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 4: So I call everybody together and I would just be like, you, guys,

610
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 4: I've heard that you don't want to sing the background vocals.

611
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 3: I know your voices aren't in there. I'm so sorry.

612
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 3: I just want to tell you that.

613
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 4: Like I called Adamanders and I've set up a recording

614
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 4: session after we wrap tonight, so you guys can all

615
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 4: get your voices in there, but I need you to

616
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 4: sing the temp track today, right, And if you don't

617
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 4: want to do it, we can wait and we can

618
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 4: put And it was like, no, we'll do it, We'll

619
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 4: just sing it.

620
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: It's like when I've heard stories of like other shows

621
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 1: where there are potentially more challenging actors in how they

622
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: stage a scene or block a scene before in their rehearsal,

623
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 1: and you know, the director would know have the wherewithal

624
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: to be like, okay, I know this actor is going

625
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 1: to be like, well what if I went left instead

626
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 1: of going right? And so the director would then go, okay,

627
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 1: I think maybe you should go right here at this point,

628
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 1: and they the actor would be like, no, I think

629
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: I'll go left.

630
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 4: I would do things like set my backpack on a

631
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 4: chair that I didn't want you to sit in when

632
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 4: you came in, like and I would, you know, and

633
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 4: it was like I was sort of arranged.

634
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 3: The room right.

635
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: I shook And a couple of times.

636
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 4: This was like on that New York set, like someone

637
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 4: would come in and be like, you know what, I'm

638
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 4: gonna sit there. I've never sat in that chair before

639
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 4: I love that idea.

640
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 2: Ah, I can't get We were such poles, were going

641
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 2: to sing backgrounds well I.

642
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: Remember, I don't remember which competition it was, but it

643
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 1: was the introduction of the Brad Beaker wig. We were

644
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 1: doing some insane nationals regional sectionals one of those which

645
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 1: Brad always got those because it was very organized. He

646
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: had a big whiteboard with all the shots we needed

647
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 1: from all of the different choirs, including interactions, and literally

648
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 1: it would be like people would be crossing these shots

649
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 1: off and it's the way we got them done. He

650
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 1: got them done so efficiently. And if you saw Brad

651
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 1: at one of those in one of those episodes, we

652
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 1: were like, we're just gonna get it done, like we

653
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 1: just knew. We were like, okay, we're in good hands.

654
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 1: But there was one and we were working really late, right,

655
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 1: it was a really late night, and I don't know

656
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: where this came from, Brad or who you got this from.

657
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: I mean, there is a hair department, but Brad put

658
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 1: on a wig and it really shifted the framework for

659
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 1: how we went about the rest of that day, like

660
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,439
Speaker 1: it's not that serious, let's get it done. We're here

661
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: and it's funny.

662
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 3: I don't know.

663
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 1: There was something about it. And then when I came

664
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 1: to shadow you on American Horror Story, the wig was back.

665
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 1: The wig lived on.

666
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 2: Wait really, yeah, no way the wig lives.

667
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:23,919
Speaker 1: Where did the wig come from?

668
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:25,280
Speaker 3: Brad Okay?

669
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 4: So the you know the first time the war the

670
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 4: wig wants as a joke, right, I think I wore

671
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:37,399
Speaker 4: it at that competition as a joke and it immediately

672
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 4: created a levity on set that I've found so valuable.

673
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 3: You knew your audience and so yeah, and just but.

674
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 4: Just I would just come around the corner and you

675
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 4: would forget that it was me, and it would be like,

676
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 4: it's not so bad. He's wearing a wig, you know

677
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 4: what I mean. But there was one during in I

678
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 4: Think It's wedding was in season six. Right in season six,

679
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 4: I was I'd been sent to New Orleans.

680
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 3: I was on American Horrse.

681
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 4: Story, and I had shot all night and I had

682
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 4: to fly back.

683
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:19,760
Speaker 3: To shoot the wedding.

684
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 4: And so I'd shot all night, got on a plane,

685
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 4: flew to LA. They picked me up and and I

686
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 4: was coming straight to set to go. But I decided

687
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 4: that the only way I was going to really be

688
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 4: able to get through the day was to just take

689
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 4: on an alter ego. So I put on the black wig.

690
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 4: And the best part was that Jennifer Coolidge was there,

691
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 4: right and at the end of the day she got

692
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 4: on the on the golf cart with Nya and Heather

693
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 4: and somebody else and she was like, I really love

694
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 4: that black haired director.

695
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:06,280
Speaker 3: She didn't know.

696
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,280
Speaker 1: What an episode to direct.

697
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 3: It got me through.

698
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,399
Speaker 4: It got me through that day, and you know where

699
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 4: it was like I just all of a sudden, I

700
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 4: was someone else.

701
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, you needed some levity. That's the power, the power

702
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 2: of drag. Yeah, that's right, right, it really is.

703
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:44,839
Speaker 1: You've also had some other difficult, complicated episodes, like Shooting Star.

704
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 3: That was a tricky one.

705
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 1: You've had some really great ones. I mean, like I

706
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 1: have a list here of like Frenemies, which we loved,

707
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 1: and the wedding and obviously the series finale you got

708
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:56,919
Speaker 1: to do, which was such a blessing to have you there.

709
00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 1: But like, yeah, something like Funeral, which is kind of stranger,

710
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: like Shooting Star was, I'm sure incredibly challenging.

711
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,919
Speaker 4: Well, let's talk about that for a second. It's like that,

712
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:14,479
Speaker 4: you know, one of the things that I always try,

713
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 4: you know, It's like I listened to a couple of

714
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 4: paris Is, you know, and you know, Paris would say

715
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 4: like he wanted to keep it simple, to keep it

716
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:25,919
Speaker 4: about the acting, right, and it's like I love that.

717
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 4: I didn't feel like I always felt like what I

718
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 4: tried to do was let the content drive the shooting strategy,

719
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,720
Speaker 4: and you know, we really you know, it's like Brian

720
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 4: and Brad and Ian would each do their own unique

721
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 4: things and as auteurs, they could kind of go wherever

722
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 4: they wanted. And I always tried to kind of, you know,

723
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 4: use the inspiration that people brought in, right, but then

724
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 4: channel it to and what the content was, what the

725
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 4: story was.

726
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 3: And when they said they wanted to do.

727
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:06,760
Speaker 4: Shots fired in school, right, it was like you really

728
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:07,879
Speaker 4: go down there and it's like.

729
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 3: How do we do this organically? Right? And I really upset.

730
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 4: The camera department because I went to the camera department

731
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 4: and I told Andrew and Dwayne that they weren't allowed

732
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 4: to come to rehearsal and I needed them to go

733
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 4: outside and they couldn't be on stage.

734
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 3: While we were rehearsing in the scene.

735
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, wow, yep.

736
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 3: And they were so they were so mad right.

737
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 4: But if you remember, it was like and Jenna, you

738
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 4: weren't you weren't there, No, it was you were on

739
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 4: the you were on the bus, that's correct, right. I

740
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 4: believe you were in trouble at the time for some reason.

741
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: Was I No, I was in the episode though.

742
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:52,720
Speaker 3: Oh you were in the episode for sure.

743
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:53,479
Speaker 2: Yeah.

744
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 1: Oh, I was just stuck outside.

745
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 3: You were stuck outside, yes, right, uh.

746
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 4: But the you know what we did was we went

747
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 4: in and I just said, we're not going to rehearse, right,

748
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 4: and I put I put a note in three different

749
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 4: spots in the choir room right where it was like, Okay,

750
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:20,919
Speaker 4: when you hear shots fired, go hide. There are three

751
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 4: places you can hide when you get there. If you

752
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 4: don't know what to do. There's an order of events.

753
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 4: And if you need to talk to someone and they're

754
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 4: not hiding, where you are all across the floor and

755
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:32,359
Speaker 4: find them.

756
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my god.

757
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 3: Right yeah.

758
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 4: And then we brought the operators in and we put

759
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 4: the operators and they all put thousand foot mags on, right,

760
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 4: which is about ten minutes of film.

761
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:46,439
Speaker 1: Yep, oh my god.

762
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 4: And we had a little you know, starter pistol, right,

763
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 4: m h. And then we just ran extras. We ran

764
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 4: background around the outside.

765
00:40:58,400 --> 00:40:58,839
Speaker 3: Of the thing.

766
00:40:59,200 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my god.

767
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:05,240
Speaker 3: And we did eight takes.

768
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:10,439
Speaker 4: We rolled out every single time, so we shot ten

769
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 4: minutes and we all sat in the village and cried. Right,

770
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 4: It was like we were so it was terrifying. Yeah, right,

771
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 4: but we wrapped at lunch. We shot ten pages before lunch.

772
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,720
Speaker 4: But it felt like the only honest.

773
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 3: Way to tell that story.

774
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 4: And so the camera operators didn't know where to look, right,

775
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 4: so they were having to find the story right, and

776
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 4: you guys were having to find it in the I

777
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 4: mean I remember you were out of your you were

778
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 4: out of your chair up against the wall, right, and

779
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 4: you were the filmmaker, right, But it felt like the

780
00:41:56,719 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 4: only honest way to do that, Like if we it

781
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 4: felt to me like if I had shot that conventionally,

782
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 4: it would have felt so manipulative. Yeah, for the show

783
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 4: that we were right, Yeah, so I should you know,

784
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 4: but it it wasn't. I wasn't trying to show off

785
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 4: or just trying to make it work.

786
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, And as like being an actor in that situation,

787
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 2: because we were all also worried about how do you

788
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 2: make this work? Like is this should we even be

789
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 2: doing this? All those questions that you were saying, like,

790
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:37,839
Speaker 2: it's not really our problem, we just have to figure

791
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 2: out how to make it work right. And the tone

792
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 2: set that day by you and your plan got rid

793
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 2: of all those doubts and extra questions for us because

794
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 2: now we had a plan something that we had never

795
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 2: done before that was immersive in that way, and because

796
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 2: it was new for everybody and sort of unsettling for everybody,

797
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 2: you certainly pull up and figure out, we're going to

798
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 2: make this thing work, and it's exciting and it's a challenge,

799
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:07,959
Speaker 2: and it made it so much easier to get into

800
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 2: that really horribly dark place of what was going on

801
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 2: in that scene, but it was from like a working perspective.

802
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,839
Speaker 2: It was really really exciting in this episode that we

803
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 2: were all really nervous about doing right, and it made

804
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 2: it probably isn't the right word, it made it really

805
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 2: fun because we were like, oh my god, yeah, it

806
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 2: felt honest. It felt like we were doing sort of

807
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 2: like a short one act play without any rehearsal of

808
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 2: like do we actually know this scene? Like that's why

809
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 2: you put up those notes, and it really really helped,

810
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 2: but it also felt safe of we by that point

811
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 2: we had this great relationship with you. We knew you

812
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 2: would catch us and make us look good, and you

813
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,839
Speaker 2: that day made us all feel like there, you can't

814
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 2: do anything wrong, Like if the camera finds you, then

815
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 2: just say you're lying. Then like just you were just

816
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 2: going to make it work. And we'd sit there for

817
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 2: like ten minutes in that scene, which feels like an

818
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 2: eternity because it's silent and it's dark and it's you're

819
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 2: not calling out to do anything. Every few minutes you

820
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 2: hear a background actor running through the hallway. It was

821
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:25,720
Speaker 2: really terrifying. But the way you set that up hopefully

822
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 2: made it, you know, so successful for us to be

823
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 2: able to operate in that it was fascinating.

824
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 3: I was proud of it.

825
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 4: It was like that it was one of those there

826
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 4: were a few times, you know, it's like when I

827
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 4: don't when we did the Beatles and Blaine came in

828
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 4: to tell you guys all that he wanted to propose

829
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 4: to Kurt right, and you know, it was like they've

830
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 4: been broken up, he cheated on him, you know, And

831
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 4: you come in at the top of it and it

832
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 4: was like, you know, you look at it and you're

833
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 4: just like, how am I going to.

834
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 3: Make anyone believe this.

835
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and it's a five minute like the way

836
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 4: that I what I ultimately decided was that we couldn't

837
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 4: cut right and it was completely choreographed. But it's like,

838
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 4: you know, he goes to each person and it's like

839
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 4: I need it because of this, and I need because

840
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 4: of this, and yep. The way I felt when it

841
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 4: was it was like, well, I don't know if I

842
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 4: completely agree with this or this, but it's like, you

843
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 4: know what, he's really committed, and I guess we should

844
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 4: just help it.

845
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:31,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, yeah, yeah, you know.

846
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,399
Speaker 4: That was it was, And that was always the way

847
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 4: I liked to approach. That was just like, okay, what's

848
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 4: the visual way to tell this story?

849
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, very clear, and it always felt like that. It

850
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 2: always like your respect and it also makes obviously we

851
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,800
Speaker 2: knew you had been involved in the show from the

852
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 2: very beginning, but hearing now about how you really helped

853
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 2: or were there at like the birth of like what

854
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 2: the DNA of the show became, so you knew it

855
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 2: in a way that only maybe Ryan did, and you

856
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 2: had because you have those early conversations because you auditioned

857
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 2: for show choir, like you had this like really specific

858
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 2: experience to be able to do those things and make

859
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,760
Speaker 2: them work and just trust that the story was gonna

860
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 2: somehow come out in a way that you wanted it to.

861
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 4: And always it was always with respect, right, and always

862
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 4: with it was like always trying to just make it

863
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 4: the most honest version of it. And it's like, look,

864
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 4: it didn't always work, and I wasn't always right or like,

865
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 4: but you know, I always remember in season six, it

866
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 4: was like that first episode back put a lot of

867
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:51,360
Speaker 4: extra stuff in there, right to try to sell what

868
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 4: I thought the story was. It was like I think

869
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:59,359
Speaker 4: Jim Rash came in to tell Leah, you know, tell

870
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 4: Rachel that she was fired from the show. It was

871
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 4: like yeah, but but but we let him improv and

872
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 4: he sort of really it didn't make the cut, but

873
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 4: it was like Ryan was upset, like it was like

874
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:19,280
Speaker 4: it's gone too far maybe you know, yeah.

875
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 3: But there were always options.

876
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like it was always done in this

877
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 4: way of like trying to uh honor what was there, right,

878
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 4: it was like take on me, remember that we did

879
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 4: the sketches, but it was like none of that was

880
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 4: in the script, right.

881
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,720
Speaker 3: It's like that whole the homage to the video.

882
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's the whole I mean, that makes the

883
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,919
Speaker 2: whole number Like that is that is what the number

884
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 2: is about.

885
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: The comic strip into the Yeah so cool and everybody there.

886
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:55,240
Speaker 1: What about the final episode, Like that's not a small

887
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 1: feat to have a series finale that you have to

888
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,760
Speaker 1: close out a store. Now, obviously you're on that journey

889
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 1: with us, you're not coming in out of nowhere, you know,

890
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:07,359
Speaker 1: But did that feel like it had more weight to it.

891
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:12,839
Speaker 4: When a two thousand and nine I always thought may

892
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 4: have been the you know, it was like could have

893
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 4: been the finale everybody you know, right, and it's like

894
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 4: but but I'll tell you there were a couple.

895
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 3: Things about about the finale. For me, it was like.

896
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:33,359
Speaker 4: I really thought that last line, that that thing that

897
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 4: they posted on the on the wall, you know, it

898
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 4: takes a lot of bravery to look around and see

899
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 4: the world not as it is, but as it should be,

900
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 4: you know.

901
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 3: Like to me, it's like that was the.

902
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:54,439
Speaker 4: Show always right, like always pushing the way the world

903
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 4: should be, not the way it really is, you know,

904
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 4: and that always touched me in such a way that

905
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 4: it was like that was worth it. Yeah, you know,

906
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 4: and you know, look, it was a huge like I

907
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 4: carried it like the way to the world. It was

908
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:20,320
Speaker 4: a huge honor to be able to shoot the last episode.

909
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 2: Right, It feels right too, especially you know, your involvement

910
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:24,359
Speaker 2: from the conception of the show.

911
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

912
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 4: But Brad could have done it, you know, it's like,

913
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:29,919
Speaker 4: you know, and and it would have been it would

914
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 4: have been great. And but but I think that for me,

915
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 4: it was like that moment really was the one that

916
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 4: hit home, right. It was like at that point, I

917
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 4: think there was still it was like I really if

918
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:50,959
Speaker 4: you guys remember that opening shot through the mirror where

919
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,720
Speaker 4: we pushed through the mirror and it's like, you guys,

920
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 4: some of you had to run around the other side

921
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:57,760
Speaker 4: of the you know, from one side of the stage

922
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 4: to the other, and there were like doubles and and

923
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 4: it was like we were pushing through the mirror and

924
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 4: that idea of like pushing through our reflections and.

925
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 3: You know, there was some fun stuff there. Yeah.

926
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 2: Watching that episode is one of those cases too, where

927
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 2: you have so much to do emotionally. It's not just

928
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 2: what's in the episode, it's also six years that have

929
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:28,799
Speaker 2: led up to it, and because you have these time

930
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 2: jumps where that's also something that I feel like can

931
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:37,359
Speaker 2: get off the rails pretty easily and quickly. And when

932
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 2: we were watching it this time, it's so grounded and

933
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 2: so moving or I think a lot of series finales

934
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:51,240
Speaker 2: do the time jump thing, and some work better than others.

935
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,320
Speaker 2: And I was really proud watching it because I felt

936
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 2: like it works so successfully. It still feels like the

937
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 2: same show, where a lot of times when you watch

938
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 2: a series finale, sometimes they do a big swing and

939
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 2: it feels like you're watching a different show. So it's

940
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 2: not satisfying. And I don't know how you did it.

941
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 2: I mean, I think maybe you've told us, you know,

942
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 2: the ways that you look at a script and try

943
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 2: to make it come across on screen. But it was

944
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 2: such a feat, I think, to be able to do

945
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 2: all of that. There's so much that happens in that episode,

946
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:25,319
Speaker 2: but everybody gets the moment. Everybody gets like a nice

947
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 2: wrap up. It doesn't feel rushed, it doesn't feel like

948
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 2: you're trying to get an eight billion different plot points.

949
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:34,240
Speaker 2: And it was because you know, our memories are terrible,

950
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 2: but watching it, it was like, oh, this episode is

951
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 2: so good. Yeah, it's great.

952
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 3: I'd have to say.

953
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 4: The one thing I did watch it too, and it's

954
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 4: like the one thing that I noticed was like, you

955
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 4: guys didn't really get your I didn't think you guys

956
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 4: got a proper moment.

957
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 3: Yeah it's there, it's.

958
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 4: There, but it's not And I was like, oh, really,

959
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 4: I don't. There's there's a kiss on the steps. Yes, right,

960
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 4: that's pretty cute.

961
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 2: Yeah right, there's only so much time you have, like

962
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 2: forty two minutes, you know, so.

963
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 4: I know, I know, but it was like it was

964
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 4: funny because I did, I really did notice it.

965
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, yeah.

966
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 1: No, I feel like we got our moment earlier in

967
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 1: that season when we and I think you directed this too,

968
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:26,479
Speaker 1: if I'm not incorrect, having our favorite scene that where

969
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:28,879
Speaker 1: Arty and Tina say that they're going to marry each other.

970
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 1: Oh it's the wedding. Yeah, and Arty and Tina sit

971
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 1: in the choir room and say they're going to marry

972
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 1: each other at thirty if Yeah, yeah, that's right. But

973
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 1: that to me felt like Larti and Tina.

974
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:49,360
Speaker 2: Really yeah yeah yeah, And that was also that that

975
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 2: felt so different to film as well. I think, Jenna,

976
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 2: you can speak to this, but I know I just

977
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 2: keep saying how good you are as the director.

978
00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 4: But.

979
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:01,760
Speaker 2: That that was set up for a really simple scene

980
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 2: felt so different where like you really allowed us like

981
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:07,879
Speaker 2: I felt like an adult and that you know, we're

982
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,360
Speaker 2: playing high schoolers, and it felt like maybe the only

983
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 2: time being on that show where I felt like I

984
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 2: was having like a grown up conversation with another character.

985
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 2: And I remember again like it was we shot out

986
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 2: really quickly because just two of us, it's really simple,

987
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:27,840
Speaker 2: but you kept you would come in and like whisper

988
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:29,840
Speaker 2: one word to me or whisper one word to Jenna,

989
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 2: and just kept it simple and it made it feel

990
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 2: again like one of those moments I was really satisfying

991
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 2: as an actor to just get to do it. And

992
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 2: it was about I felt like it was about me

993
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 2: and Jenna in real life, like our friendship that we

994
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 2: had built over the years, and you know, and it

995
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:46,799
Speaker 2: felt like you were just like respecting all of that.

996
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 2: And like Jenna and I talked about that scene all

997
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:51,799
Speaker 2: the time because it meant a lot to us. And

998
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 2: that is sort of arting Tina's wrap up.

999
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 1: Hmm.

1000
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I never thought about that. Uh that's really Uh.

1001
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 2: I want to go watch that again, it's a good scene.

1002
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:03,319
Speaker 2: It's simple, it's.

1003
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 1: Very but it's very grounded and honest, the most grounded

1004
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 1: because Ardientina can kind of fly up the.

1005
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 2: Handles a little bit to marry Mike.

1006
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:13,919
Speaker 3: Like we know.

1007
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 1: We were given a lot to do but therey but

1008
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 1: but yeah, it was like very grounded and very Jenna

1009
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 1: and Kevin ask if you will like it just felt

1010
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 1: really honest, right, Like Kevin said.

1011
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:35,319
Speaker 4: That's what we want, isn't it right, And it's like,

1012
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 4: and that's the it's you know, it's it's it is

1013
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 4: fun because it you know when I when I listened

1014
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:45,240
Speaker 4: to Ian talk about it and like and it's like, look,

1015
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 4: it's like the funny.

1016
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 3: I love the funny, and I love the Ian weird, right.

1017
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 4: And the and kind of you know how he talked

1018
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:58,839
Speaker 4: about season one and season six is being like his favorites, right,

1019
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 4: But it's like I love it when it can go

1020
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 4: weird and then you can really land it can just

1021
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 4: be honest, yeah, right, And because there is some we

1022
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:10,359
Speaker 4: could we're all weird. Yeah right, It's like we're all

1023
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 4: weird in our own way, right, And I think.

1024
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,319
Speaker 2: So it's the beauty of the show. We've said it

1025
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 2: like something crazy will be happening in one scene, then

1026
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 2: the very next scene you're having a really serious talk

1027
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 2: about race, and it's grounded and beautiful and moving almost

1028
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,399
Speaker 2: in the same you know, forty two minute episode and it.

1029
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:28,840
Speaker 1: All works the journey.

1030
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And like that was the tightrope that the

1031
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:35,360
Speaker 2: show constantly walked, and I think worked almost every single

1032
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 2: time most of the time.

1033
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:39,360
Speaker 3: Well, and it's.

1034
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 4: Look, it's like whether it whether it worked all the

1035
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 4: time or not, it always tried.

1036
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.

1037
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's like, I mean, it's funny because for me,

1038
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 4: one of the biggest I feel I felt like my

1039
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 4: big moment with you guys, there were two moments as

1040
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 4: a cast when I felt like, you really like, what

1041
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 4: are we doing? And the one was original songs, right,

1042
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:10,719
Speaker 4: and it was like, sorry, but I told you guys

1043
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:13,360
Speaker 4: all together and I was like, listen, we're gonna shoot

1044
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 4: this until you guys really decide. You have to love

1045
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 4: these songs and you have to lean in and sing

1046
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:24,280
Speaker 4: them like you think they're the greatest things ever.

1047
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 2: See when we tell you people who have been listening

1048
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 2: that we were really concerned about Loser like me, we

1049
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:32,359
Speaker 2: were really concerned everybody knew.

1050
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, you could see it on our fas.

1051
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:38,279
Speaker 4: But by the way, it was like when you cut

1052
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 4: it all together and it aired right.

1053
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 3: So it was one on iTunes yea how it worked,

1054
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 3: you know?

1055
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it was, but it was and it was

1056
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 4: that thing, and I had this feeling from the get

1057
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:51,439
Speaker 4: it was like your faces.

1058
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 3: Will sell it, yeah right, yeah yeah, and.

1059
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 4: It truly it's like when you all of a sudden,

1060
00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 4: it's like you forget you're not listening to the music anymore.

1061
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 4: You're you're feeling a thing that you guys are doing.

1062
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1063
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 4: It was that and the and when we did the

1064
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:11,279
Speaker 4: it was on my Way, you know with the Kroski,

1065
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:15,799
Speaker 4: you know when when it was Team Suicide and they're

1066
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 4: getting married and Quinn and it was like there was

1067
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 4: a moment where everyone was like what I don't understand

1068
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 4: And I just remember being.

1069
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 3: Like, you guys, just go with me for a minute. Yeah,

1070
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 3: just go with because we can do yeah, you know.

1071
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, And sometimes that's all you need to hear is

1072
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 1: like I got you, I got I'm in this with you.

1073
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 1: We're a team. We're gonna make this work. But you

1074
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 1: got to do your part and I'll do mine, you know.

1075
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 1: That's all we kind of needed. Sometimes was like, oh,

1076
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 1: all right, Brad's asking us to do something right now

1077
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 1: that we literally are not doing.

1078
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 2: We're not doing anything we were hired to do. Let's

1079
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 2: remember why we're here. Do you have any favorite scenes

1080
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 2: or numbers that you got to either direct or edit?

1081
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, you guys.

1082
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 4: Truthfully, it was like I went into every scene like

1083
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 4: I want to fall in love with this scene.

1084
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 3: You know, yeah, And it's like.

1085
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 4: There were you know, there were I'll tell you one

1086
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 4: of my and I've given you a lot of them already.

1087
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:37,920
Speaker 4: But it's like, so when they were going to do

1088
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 4: the first kiss between Blaine and Kirk, okay, we went

1089
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 4: in to rehearse, and I said to Darren, I was like,

1090
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 4: you know, Darren, like I remember my first kisses very well,

1091
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 4: and I remember always having a plan as to how

1092
00:58:58,160 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 4: I was going to do it or where I was

1093
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 4: going to stay, and and it just they never worked out.

1094
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 4: So when you come over to sit down, I think

1095
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:08,919
Speaker 4: you should scoot your chair all the way over next

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Speaker 4: to him and sit And he was like, oh, no,

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Speaker 4: I would never do that.

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Speaker 3: I want to sit here. And so but when he

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00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 3: wanted to see was they were.

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Speaker 4: They were literally like six feet apart, right, And I

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00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 4: was like, okay, great, okay, got it. I turned around

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00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 4: and I just said to I said to Chris Bafa,

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00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 4: light the whole room, get three cameras. This is going

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00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 4: to be great because I knew he couldn't possibly kiss

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00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 4: him from there. Yeah, right, And I just I didn't

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00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 4: say any another word. I was like, you know what,

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00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 4: we're done. We're not going to rehearse anymore. Let's just

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00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:50,040
Speaker 4: go away. Turn the cameras on, and it's like when

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00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 4: he's sitting there, you can see this moment's where he

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00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 4: realizes he can't possibly get there right and see he

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00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 4: has to get up and sort of awkwardly move around

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Speaker 4: on the table and like leave.

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Speaker 3: And it was like it felt so.

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Speaker 2: Honest, I love it.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, it was just like we're done.

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01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:09,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, gotcha.

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01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 2: Oh that's it, that's perfect.

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01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 1: Well, we literally I could we we have a thousand

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01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 1: questions for you because we haven't seen you in years. Also,

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01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:22,920
Speaker 1: but we obviously don't want to keep you. We know

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01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 1: you're so busy. We have to ask you if you

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01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 1: listen to the podcast, you know, and I'm sure you've

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01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 1: thought about it, but what is the feeling that Glee

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01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 1: leaves you with.

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Speaker 3: So many feelings? But honestly, it's like pride. You know.

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Speaker 3: It's like I just I'll always look back and I

1127
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 3: feel so proud that I got.

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Speaker 4: To spend that time with you, right, to spend that time.

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Speaker 4: You know, it was like it truly, you know, it

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Speaker 4: defined my life. You know, I learned so much. And

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01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:16,240
Speaker 4: it's like there were horrible things and there were great things, yep,

1132
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:23,439
Speaker 4: but but we were all in it together for better

1133
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 4: or worse, you know. And when I look back, and

1134
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 4: you know, it's like for all.

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Speaker 3: For whatever whatever you thought or whatever the it's like

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01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 3: when you look back at what we did, I'm just

1137
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:37,960
Speaker 3: so proud of it.

1138
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 1: Yeah you should be, I mean we all are.

1139
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:45,400
Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, do you have you guys answered that question?

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01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 1: We're going to we have an episode coming where we

1141
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 1: have to answer this good.

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Speaker 3: Okay, good.

1143
01:01:55,920 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 2: I might lift a lot of your answer, Brad.

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01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming on. It truly would

1145
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 1: not have been the same to do this podcast without you.

1146
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 1: You are such a massive part of the heart of

1147
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 1: the show and for us and just really just shaped

1148
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 1: the experience on it. You know, behind the scenes and

1149
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 1: then also the story for everybody else. So we're just

1150
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:24,000
Speaker 1: so grateful that you were on the journey with us.

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01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:26,400
Speaker 4: Yes, thank you so so much for having me, guys,

1152
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:27,880
Speaker 4: I really it meant the world to me.

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01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:28,880
Speaker 1: Thank you.

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01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 3: It's great to see you.

1155
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 2: But it was so nice to see you. I'm so

1156
01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 2: glad everyone now can like feel you're sweet thinking here.

1157
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:38,360
Speaker 2: This is a sweet man who is very talented and

1158
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:40,920
Speaker 2: put up with a lot from us for a long time,

1159
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 2: you guys, and always made us look good.

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01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:45,480
Speaker 3: Thank you so much.

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01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 1: Thanks Brad, Thank you, Brad, Brad Beaker. I can't believe

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01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:54,439
Speaker 1: that we couldn't talk to him for another hour, Kevin,

1163
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:55,480
Speaker 1: because we probably could.

1164
01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 2: Have these director talks, you know, Brad Beaker.

1165
01:02:59,680 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 3: And.

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01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:05,600
Speaker 1: They see they do. They're the leaders. They run the ship.

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01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 1: They run the ship well, I mean excellent excellence. We

1168
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:12,960
Speaker 1: are working with the top of the line, top on.

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01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:17,600
Speaker 2: The line, and Baker's fingerprints are all over Glee, like

1170
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 2: Glee would not be the same without him, and he

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01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 2: I'm so glad. I'm just so glad he got to

1172
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:27,360
Speaker 2: come on here or we got him. All of you

1173
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:32,480
Speaker 2: could listen, because he's brilliant, he's so kind and so nice. Yeah, yeah,

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01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:35,240
Speaker 2: he really is. Thank you Baker for spending so much

1175
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 2: time with us. Thank everyone for listening. And you know

1176
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:41,560
Speaker 2: that was one of the titans of Glee right there,

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01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:44,960
Speaker 2: and that's what you really missed. Hey, thanks for listening,

1178
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:47,800
Speaker 2: and follow us on Instagram at and that's what you

1179
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 2: really miss pod. Make sure to write us a review

1180
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:52,320
Speaker 2: and leave us five stars. See you next time.