1 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 1: And just like that, we're back in another edition of 2 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: the Late Kick Extra podcast. 3 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 2: It is Tuesday. 4 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:17,440 Speaker 1: It is September twenty First, off the top of my head, 5 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: now that I'm speaking to you, I think that means 6 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: fall may start today. It's starting sometime very soon. Autumn, 7 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: if you will, Fall is what I roll with. Either way, 8 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: best time of the year. Think about all the overlap. 9 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: I mean, we got the fall foliage if you're into 10 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: tree coloring. But we also got football going on. The 11 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 1: college basketball types out there are about to get their fill. 12 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 1: Major League Baseball headed towards Pennant races, NFL's cranked up. 13 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: I don't get to watch it because Sunday is the 14 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 1: busiest day of the week for yours. Truly, what a 15 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 1: time to be alive. Hey, what a weekend. So many 16 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: of you, and by the way, welcome in. This is 17 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: a mail bag Tuesday and Thursday for those of you 18 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: who are new, and there are a lot of you, 19 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: judging by the analytics report I got yesterday. So many 20 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: of you wanted for me to tell you a little 21 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: bit more about the trip I to the Auburn penn 22 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: State game this past weekend. And I'm gonna do that 23 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you a couple of stories that I 24 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: have not had time to share, which. 25 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 2: Is what this format's for. 26 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 1: We get to kind of stretch our legs a little bit, 27 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 1: lean back, loosen the tie in some alternate universe where 28 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: I wear a tie, and we can go a little 29 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 1: more in depth on these sorts of things that I 30 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 1: just don't have time to go in depth on on 31 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 1: Lake Kick Live. But a memorable weekend, guys, memorable. A 32 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 1: lot of you follow along on the Instagram story and 33 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: I think I posted about thirty Instagram story updates from 34 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: the Penn State game. I had a buddy call me 35 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: that I always used as a sounding board, and I 36 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: asked him was it overkill? Did it get redundant at 37 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:37,479 Speaker 1: a certain point? 38 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 2: He said no, I. 39 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: Actually went back and watched it multiple times. So if 40 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 1: that tells you anything, that's probably all you need to know. 41 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: And I'm going to roll with that because no one complained. 42 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: But I just wanted to tell you, guys, to show you, 43 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: I guess rather what the atmosphere was like, because I 44 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: don't think that stuff translates on TV, and it's not 45 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: the fault of ABC or ESPN. You just if you've 46 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: ever experienced it, you know what I mean. There's a 47 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: certain level that TV can get to, and it can't 48 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: go past it. Like if it's a one to ten scale, 49 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: it can't go past ten. But the thing about it is, 50 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: if you're in an eighteen environment, TV cannot properly encapsulate 51 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: what it's like there the eye. Josh probably can't either, 52 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: But at least I'm on field level and I am 53 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: truly giving you a first person vantage point. That's what 54 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: my buddy said, and what a lot of you said. 55 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,679 Speaker 1: You literally felt like you were there. That is the 56 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: entire purpose of me going to these places. Well, Number one, 57 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 1: I just want to. 58 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 2: Because I love to. 59 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: Number Two, I get to take as many of you 60 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: as I possibly can with me by way of technology. 61 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: Since you can't be there yourself, I want you to 62 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: see as much as I possibly can what it's like, 63 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 1: not from a TV vantage point, but from an on 64 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 1: the ground vantage point. That's why I try and show 65 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: you as much behind the scenes as I can, get 66 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: you as much access. 67 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 2: As I can. And boy, that was a man. That 68 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 2: was an environment. That's a one hander. 69 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: That's a phrase I came up with several years ago 70 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: to describe that handful of events that just stands so 71 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: far out above the rest. You got five fingers on 72 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 1: one hand, so it's really hard to crack that top five, 73 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: but this easily did that easily. I mean if I 74 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: had three fingers on my hand like Mema used to have. 75 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: She had an ax incident when she was younger with 76 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: her brother and it took off three of her fingers. 77 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 1: She wrote, My grandma wrote her whole adult life using her. 78 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 2: Pinky and thumb. That's it. 79 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: I want you to think about that. She had legible 80 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: penmanship with a pinky and thumb. That's what she used 81 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: to write. Anyway, mem was the outlier. Most of us 82 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: do have all five of our digits. The Penn State game, though, 83 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: even if Mema were here would make her one hand list, 84 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: and she only had a top two. So yes, it 85 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: was that memorable. But I'll give you some stories about 86 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: that as we go on here. I cannot overemphasize enough 87 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: how awesome it is to go on the road and 88 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: meet you guys airports, hotel lobbies and parking lots everywhere, 89 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: including the game obviously, And now that we've gotten a 90 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: few weeks in and I don't have to be specific. 91 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: I can be veryeric with this. Let me also tell 92 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: you what's happening. A lot of coaching staffs listen to 93 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: the show. A lot of players on teams listen to 94 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: the show. Equipment managers, recruiting coordinators, player personnel folks, all 95 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: kinds of people listen to the show. So if you 96 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: ever want to know who you're listening along with, I 97 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 1: can assure you every week so far, we've been to 98 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: three games. Every week, I've gone to a game, and 99 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: I've been on the field. I have been approached by 100 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: people with teams that you know, can't go on the 101 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: record and say it, but off the record, love the 102 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 1: show man, love what you do. Please keep it up, 103 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: and we will, We absolutely will. It's not that you're 104 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: saying stuff they always agree with. It's not that you're 105 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: painting the most rosy picture of their program every time 106 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: you open your mouth. There's just an appreciation for authenticity, 107 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: which is the only way that we ever allow this 108 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: show to happen. And you guys say the same thing, 109 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: and that's really what matters the most. But I just 110 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: thought you'd be interested in that. I mean, I'm looking 111 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: again at an analytics report every Monday, delivered to me. 112 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: I cannot begin to describe to you how many thousands 113 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 1: of people that we have added per episode just in 114 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,919 Speaker 1: the wlad last few months. It's called the compounding effect 115 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: in the data world, but really all it is is 116 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: a hockey stick. You try and put together a good product, 117 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: and we've tried to do that, and then all of 118 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: a sudden it goes from. 119 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 2: A little bit of growth, a little bit of growth 120 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 2: to boom, just like a hockey stick. 121 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 1: At the very end of it, it just swoops up 122 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 1: and right now we are swooping as a show really 123 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: fun to be a part of, and you've made it happen. 124 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: So now you're going to reap the benefits be cause 125 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: we just get to do a whole lot more with this. 126 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm really excited, for instance, with what we 127 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 1: can do with the Renaissance Tour. Every town I've been in, 128 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: you guys have asked, is there an event? 129 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 2: We're going to do an event? Well, not yet, but 130 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 2: that's with a dot dot on the end. 131 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: I believe that you smarter people will call that an ellipsis. 132 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: You never know what that could turn into, so just 133 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: keep pushing for it would be my suggestion, all right, 134 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: let's dive in here. I got a lot to get 135 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: to and we will go as we do again every 136 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: Tuesday and Thursday. For those new, we do a mail 137 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: bag if you want to submit a question. Josh paid 138 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 1: seven zero six at gmail dot com is the email. 139 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: You can hop in DMS, Twitter, or Instagram at late 140 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: kick Josh, and make sure you're following on those platforms 141 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 1: even if you don't have a question to ask, because 142 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,359 Speaker 1: there is a lot that happens there that I don't 143 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 1: have room, nor do I have the time to get 144 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: to on the pods and the regular shows. So let's 145 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: dive right on end lost my place? 146 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,679 Speaker 2: All right? I found it? Okay, So Isaac asked a question. 147 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,239 Speaker 1: He said, currently a lot of people are talking about 148 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: how important the regular season is and they aren't focused 149 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,919 Speaker 1: on the playoff because there is so much that's unknown 150 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,919 Speaker 1: with the playoff expansion being delayed. Do you think we 151 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 1: will continue to see the regular season get the recognition 152 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: it deserves over the next few years. Well, it will 153 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: on this show that I can promise you. I don't 154 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: even I mean, I outright refuse to talk about the 155 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 1: playoff right now, so much so that I have been 156 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: using the xmog over the P so I don't even 157 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 1: have to say the full word. 158 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 2: I may start whispering the word playoff. 159 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 1: In September at least, Isaac, here's what's happening right now. 160 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: I'm not so sure it has anything to do with 161 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: the format as much as it has to do as 162 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,239 Speaker 1: we warned you in July that we're in the middle 163 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 1: of a renaissance. Seasonsis season just essentially meaning there's a 164 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: lot of balance. There's a lot of competitive parody out 165 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,679 Speaker 1: there right now. Everyone thinks they've got a shot. Everyone 166 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: thinks the big boys are vulnerable. They should because they are. 167 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: Oklahoma's vulnerable Bama. Finally, you saw them taste a little 168 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: bit of their own blood this past weekend, even in 169 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: a win Clemson. Who in the world knows when they're 170 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: going to score again. Ohio State's had such underwhelming early 171 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: season results, they've already shifted their defensive coaching staff. So, Isaac, 172 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: when you have that happening, people's attention is on the 173 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: here and now. I would argue it always should be, 174 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: but it's on the here and now. 175 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 2: Now. Here's what I want to caution you guys against 176 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 2: be ahead of the curve on this. 177 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: Don't be the person who is shot in October or 178 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: November when a team that everyone's already tossed in the 179 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: ditch and left for dead right now ends up getting up, 180 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: dusting themselves off, putting on a new pair of pants, 181 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: getting back on the road. I don't know why you 182 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: need to put on pants. When did the pants even 183 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: come off? Horrible metaphor. It's just a metaphor that's gone sideways. 184 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: But I can't stop now. I got to keep going, 185 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: all right, so inexplicably the pants off, But now they're 186 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: back on and the car doors shut, You're back on 187 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: the road. There's gonna be a team, maybe more than one, 188 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: but at least one team that look around right now 189 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: we've already left for dead that's gonna get its act 190 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: together in a year where it's able to climb the 191 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: ladder again and they're gonna be in the middle of 192 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: that playoff conversation. I think it could be North Carolina, 193 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: but there are several programs. I asked this on Twitter today, 194 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: I said, which team out there has been left for 195 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: dead that's gonna end up getting back up and getting 196 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: back in the thick of the playoff race. Iowa State 197 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: obviously is the one I hope it is. That was 198 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: mentioned by our buddy Brandon Walker, but also there were 199 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: several other programs thrown out there. Wisconsin that's a prime 200 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: example of a team that could do that. I went 201 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: with North Carolina number one, because what the ACC looks 202 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 1: like right now. Number two, because the candidate that I 203 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 1: have in mind is one that can score potentially in bunches. 204 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: And what you're trying to see if they can do 205 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: is get their defensive act together. Since we're talking about 206 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 1: acts so much right now, they've got to get a 207 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: defensive product on the field that's not going to be 208 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 1: shut down in nature. They're ceiling as well below that caliber. 209 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 1: But what you can do is you can start playing 210 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: more opportunistic football defensively. You can start improving your percentages 211 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: in the red area, you can up your HAVOC rate, 212 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 1: you can up your turnover rate, and those sorts of 213 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: things over let's say a five or six game stretch, 214 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: which is largely when that hot streak would start again. 215 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:29,719 Speaker 1: In theory, that's the kind of stuff a team like 216 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 1: North Carolina could pull off. But because Isaac, this is 217 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:34,559 Speaker 1: the kind of year where if you're going to have 218 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 1: a two loss team make the playoff, this would be it. 219 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,839 Speaker 1: You can't start dismissing and discounting teams when they've got 220 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: one loss because by default, with the way things are 221 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: trending right now, certainly we're going to have multiple one 222 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 1: loss teams in the playoff. You could very much have 223 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: a two loss team in the playoff. And the other 224 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: thing you can't discount right now is you can't be 225 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: ever discounting Cincinnati. 226 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 2: You shouldn't have. You know my take on that. 227 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 1: Again, I've already talked too much playoff here for my taste, 228 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: but you know my take on that. It's been this 229 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 1: way since the summer, and I still feel this way now. 230 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 1: If that team goes undefeated, I think they'll be in 231 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 1: the playoff. That at the time was even independent of 232 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: what the rest of the country was going to look like. 233 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: But the reason I felt so confident in saying that 234 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:18,319 Speaker 1: was because what I expected to happen elsewhere has happened. 235 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 1: I didn't think Oklahoma was going to be great. I 236 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: didn't think Ohio State or Clemson were going to be great. 237 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: I had questions about Alabama, although I had my preseason 238 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: number one and still have them number one. It's just 239 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: the odds were so overwhelming to me that we were 240 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: going to have a bunch of chaos. 241 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 2: I don't even think. 242 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: We've seen the peak of the chaos yet. By the way, 243 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 1: teams haven't even started to get injured yet. You have 244 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: any clue what this could look like in October and November. 245 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:46,319 Speaker 1: So anyway, I said all that with Cincinnati because I 246 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: thought that college football was going to clear a path 247 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: for Cincinnati as long as they took care of their business. Well, 248 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: so far they have, and so far on the other 249 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: side of that coin, college football is clearing a path 250 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 1: for them. They're going to be in the playoff guys, 251 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: whether you like it or not. Talking about whether I 252 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: like it or not, I'm telling you, independent of how 253 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 1: we feel about it, I think they're going to be 254 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: there if they take care of their business. Garland is 255 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 1: up next, he said. With regards to USC and the 256 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,439 Speaker 1: coaching search out there, do you think the early firing 257 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: of Clay Helton is on the minds of programs like LSU, 258 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: FSU and Nebraska somewhat, even though that program isn't on 259 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: the same level as others Right now, I ask this 260 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:26,719 Speaker 1: with the thought in mind that they could all be 261 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 1: competing for these same pool of candidates. Yeah, Garland, I 262 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: think South Carolina adopted this strategy last year. South Carolina, remember, 263 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: in the COVID year, we initially were hearing a lot 264 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: of folks say this year, everyone's going to get a pass. 265 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 2: I never bought into that. I told you that on 266 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 2: the pot. 267 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: I never bought into that, And it turned out that 268 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: there wasn't much to buy into because once South Carolina 269 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:49,959 Speaker 1: pulled the early season trigger on Will Muschamp, it was 270 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: a free for all and everyone started to either make 271 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: moves or at the very least acknowledge we're open to 272 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 1: making a move. 273 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 2: Well, South Carolina I thought was. 274 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 1: Pretty genius in doing what they did, because I thought 275 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 1: they were taking advantage of an unprecedented opportunity. Now it 276 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: ended up not mattering for them given the guy they hired, 277 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: because they could have had Shane Beemer any time they 278 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: wanted to. That doesn't mean it's a bad hire. It 279 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: just it goes ag into the example I'm about to 280 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 1: set forth for you. So what I was thinking with 281 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: South Carolina at the time is exactly what you're talking 282 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: about here. You're saying, if we're all going to compete 283 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 1: over the same three or four guys, let's get a 284 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: head start so that we can put our best foot forward. 285 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: We can, you know, you get the obvious advantage of 286 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: having the jump on everyone. Well, South Carolina looked around, 287 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: and this is what I was thinking at the time. 288 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 1: I was thinking, they may look around and they may say, Okay, 289 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 1: some of these other programs may be hesitant to fire 290 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 1: their head coach. So let's not only fire ours now 291 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 1: if we're certain about this, but let's also do it 292 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: early in the season so that not only will we 293 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: get a jump on other programs, but maybe those programs 294 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: don't even make a move, and so we have an 295 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: artificially favorable coaching search environment that will never happen in 296 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: any year. 297 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 2: Now. 298 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: Again, that didn't end up mattering because South Carolina went 299 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 1: and got Shane Beemer. But what if they would have 300 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:13,079 Speaker 1: targeted someone of let's say, a bigger national stature. Maybe 301 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: Shane Beemer is completely right for South Carolina, but what 302 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: if they would have wanted to go hire let's say 303 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: a more well renowned, nationally recognized name. Well, that would 304 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 1: have been the thinking there. Well, USC obviously is going 305 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 1: to be in the market to hire a name that 306 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: fits that kind of description. LSU you mentioned there. That's interesting. 307 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 1: There are some people, as I shared with you last 308 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: week in the coaching agent world, that do believe the 309 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: LSU job will ultimately come open. I'm not there yet. Obviously, 310 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 1: We're in the middle of a season Edwards ron and 311 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: I thought his staff did a really good job of 312 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 1: getting off the deck and getting a convincing win against 313 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 1: Central Michigan this past weekend. You can take it for 314 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: granted all you want to at line was nineteen and 315 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: a half and they covered one thing by four touchdowns, 316 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 1: So I certainly don't discount that. 317 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 2: But again, we all know what happens. 318 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: If they they lose Saturday, they play at Mississippi State, 319 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: and that is under a touchdown spread, and so that's 320 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: one that bears close watching. Anyway, I'm saying that to 321 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 1: say there are people in the industry that expect that 322 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: job to come open. Yes, if that happens, Southern cal 323 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 1: will have a fight on their hands with LSU. For 324 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: most candidates, I'm telling you, most candidates would choose LSU 325 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: as a job over USC. Right now, you can believe 326 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: that or not. It's not opinion, that is just fact 327 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: that has been said into my ears. But other than that, 328 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: the Florida state that was a weird one to throw 329 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 1: in there. I don't think Mike Norvel is under any 330 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 1: threat of being fired this year, just point blank. I 331 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: know it's not a good product on the field right now. 332 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: I don't think he's going anywhere, So I will dismiss 333 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: FSU entirely unless there's some kind of scandal that breaks out, 334 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: and bad play is not enough of a scandal, by 335 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: the way, but LSU, yeah, absolutely, USC is already there. 336 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: I wouldn't put Nebraska in this pool. I don't think 337 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: they are fishing in the same pond. They are fishing 338 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: in the pond. The others would probably be fishing in 339 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: the ocean. And I also question whether Nebraska will make 340 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: a move on Scott Frost. 341 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 2: I would really question that. 342 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: I don't know what the criteria is there and if 343 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: it matches what the national criteria would be for when 344 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: it's time to move on from a coach, especially when 345 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: it's a coach that is one of your own. Jeff 346 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: up next, in your opinion, is the college play starting 347 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: to shift back to an emphasis on power running game 348 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: with elements of spread offense. Jeff, Yes, Yes, had multiple 349 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: coaches tell me this. It's very simple. You don't have 350 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: to have played or coached a down of college football 351 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: ever to understand what's happening. 352 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 2: For a long time. 353 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: If you turned on your TV on Saturday, you have 354 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: seen the spread offense is an overly simplistic term, but 355 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: you have seen quite literally, if you don't know anything 356 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 1: about football, you have seen offenses spread out. You have 357 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: seen receivers closer to the sideline than you used to see, 358 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: those wider splits. There's a reason for that. You've seen 359 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: offensive linemen not stand as close to each other as 360 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: you may have seen two decades ago. 361 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 2: There's a reason for that. 362 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: And conversely, with all of the running around and running 363 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 1: around and running around, you probably saw some oversized linebackers 364 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: being made fools of. Well, guess what defensive coaches did. 365 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: They adapted their recruiting strategy and they evolved the critical 366 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: traits that they look for in a linebacker, and gone 367 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: are the days where you see six four to two 368 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: fifty roaming the middle of the field. There at the 369 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: linebacker position. They had to sacrifice that they dropped size 370 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: in order to get more athletic and faster so that 371 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: they could have linebackers that were more versatile and could 372 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: cover in space. It's really that simple. Well, that was 373 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: not going to continue forever. As you've seen in the 374 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: Big Twelve. You've seen teams like Iowa State, You've seen 375 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: teams like Kansas State at certain times. Whereas it used 376 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 1: to look like a pinball game out there in the 377 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: Big Twelve, with receivers running all over the place, all 378 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: of a sudden, some what you would consider to be 379 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: under talented, undermanned rosters started figuring out a way to 380 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: keep Teams like Oklahoma occasionally in the twenties like, how 381 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: does that happen given what we had been seeing out there. Well, 382 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: what happened is they got a little undersized, They sacrifice 383 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 1: some size to get some athleticism, but they also evolved 384 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,919 Speaker 1: and adapted their scheme. Well, now we get back to 385 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 1: the question that was just asked, is it an illusion 386 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:13,199 Speaker 1: or are we seeing a little bit of more of 387 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 1: a shift towards power with some spread elements. 388 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 2: Well, yes you are. 389 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:19,719 Speaker 1: Several teams have started to do this again. It's like 390 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: what's old is new again because if you were to 391 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: look across the ball and you see undersized linebackers, what 392 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: is the first thing that you'd. 393 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 2: Want to do. 394 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: You'd want to make them prove they can stop the run, 395 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: and if they can't, the game becomes so academic. 396 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:35,880 Speaker 2: At that point, it's so much easier to just run 397 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 2: the ball. 398 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 1: To do what Michigan's doing right now, for example, seventeen passes, 399 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: forty eight runs. 400 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 2: Call it a day. 401 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:43,640 Speaker 1: Run it up on someone, splatter them all over the place, 402 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 1: call it a day. 403 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 2: Well, that's what offensive staffs are doing now. 404 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 1: If we can get big and we can run it 405 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:51,199 Speaker 1: at you, cause all of a sudden you've recruited these 406 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 1: undersized linebackers and in some cases defensive linemen, then we're 407 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: going to impose our will on you. 408 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 2: Yes, that is the case. I think that absolutely is happening. 409 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: You saw a little bit of this on display with 410 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: Florida and Alabama. Alabama didn't have the size even at 411 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: inside linebacker that they used to have. Henry Tootoo, Christian Harris, 412 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 1: those kinds of guys. They did not have their best 413 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:15,479 Speaker 1: games by any stretch of the imagination Saturday, and it 414 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: was because of two things. Number One, Florida's offensive line 415 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 1: largely worked Alabama and number two. Because of number one, 416 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: they were able to get up to the second level. 417 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:26,919 Speaker 1: And guess what those linebackers weren't able to do. They 418 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 1: weren't able to do what a six four to two 419 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty pound Rolando McClain or Dante high Tower 420 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:33,679 Speaker 1: could have done a decade ago because they don't have 421 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:36,120 Speaker 1: the size to stand up to it. They can't trade 422 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 1: the physicality. They're not built to do that. So, yeah, Jeff, 423 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 1: I don't think it's an illusion at all. I absolutely 424 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: think that we have seen that shift. Let's go up 425 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 1: here to Wesley's question. Wesley said, is a funny observation 426 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: because it's true. Wesley said, I thought it was wild 427 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: watching your Twitter account Saturday night and into Sunday. The 428 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 1: location went from Beaver Stadium to Pittsburgh International Airport to 429 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:01,360 Speaker 1: Nashville in the span of a few hours. Where did 430 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: the sleep fit in? Wesley, I'm glad you asked this, cause, 431 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 1: my friend, there was none. Here was my little timeline. 432 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: I'm going off memory, but I can tell you this 433 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 1: is accurate. I woke up Saturday in Pittsburgh. I stayed 434 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh. I woke up Saturday at about nine am, 435 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 1: and that's sleeping in big time for me. 436 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 2: So I woke up at. 437 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: Nine am, knowing I had a full day and knowing 438 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 1: it was going to be very sketchy if I could 439 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 1: ever get some sleep. So I drove over to State College, 440 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 1: met up with a great camera guy that CBS hooked 441 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: me up with, Brian, been in the business a long time, 442 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: great dude, and boy, he had an experience the next 443 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 1: day too, I'll tell you about in just a second. 444 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 1: So anyway, I drive over to State College, giving myself 445 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:44,400 Speaker 1: plenty of time. 446 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 2: So I got over there several hours early. 447 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 1: I normally like to get in the stadium if I'm 448 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 1: going to a night game, so I can watch the 449 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: three thirty games. Anyway, So we get over there, I 450 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 1: get in. I watched the Alabama game basically the entire 451 00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: second half, just sitting alone in Beaver Stadium, and know 452 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:02,479 Speaker 1: itselfs kind of surreal. It's a really good setting, it's 453 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 1: a really good seat. Out of one hundred and ten thousand, 454 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:08,439 Speaker 1: just go pick one. And so then obviously time marches 455 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 1: on one of my favorite Tracy Lawrence songs of all time, 456 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: and it's time for team arrivals. 457 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:13,439 Speaker 2: I get down the tunnel. 458 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: I went and saw that saw the herd of students 459 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: masquerading as wilderbeasts come through there. As I talked about 460 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 1: on the show last night on Late Kick Live, the 461 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: game happens, the aftermath happens. 462 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:26,640 Speaker 2: No one wanted to leave for a long time. 463 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: Covered James Franklin's postgame press conference, talk to a lot 464 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: of people. Both of our Penn State guys, Tyler, Donna 465 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,640 Speaker 1: Hughes Sean Fitz had lengthy conversations on the field with them. 466 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,120 Speaker 1: Those guys do a great job over at Lyons twenty 467 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: four to seven. If you want to check that out, 468 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 1: I would strongly, strongly encourage you to a lot of 469 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: great Penn State content over there. And so then here's 470 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 1: the question you have, When do you leave? And what 471 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 1: is the motivation to leave? So this is where it 472 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: gets a little hairy. So it's well after midnight. We're 473 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: going on Eastern time at the moment, and I've got 474 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: a flight that boards at six forty five A. Pittsburgh 475 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:04,360 Speaker 1: is a little over two hours away. Traffic is a nightmare. 476 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 1: So I get out of that stadium about one thirty 477 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 1: am Eastern Standard time, and I get out in lot 478 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,679 Speaker 1: thirty one there and it is a standstill. So I 479 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: sat there, probably didn't move fifteen yards in thirty minutes. 480 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: And then I just decided to get wild and I 481 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: got out of line and I just drove over to 482 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 1: where I thought I saw a road. 483 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 2: I kid you not. 484 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: I've never been to Pennsylvania before, much less a penn 485 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: State game, obviously all these people have. And I never 486 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:32,880 Speaker 1: hit my brakes again. I don't know how I got 487 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,159 Speaker 1: out of there. I couldnot retrace my steps if I 488 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 1: tried to, but I got out of there in like 489 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 1: five minutes. I'm on the interstate, and I'm at eighty 490 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: miles an hour. I'm on the way back to Pittsburgh. 491 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: So I finally get back to Pittsburgh about four am. 492 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: I immediately start putting the show together. I have consumed 493 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:50,679 Speaker 1: copious amounts of caffeine on this drive, so I'm not 494 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 1: even remotely tired at the moment. So I put a 495 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:54,679 Speaker 1: lot of the show together. I tried to start watching 496 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 1: replays of some condensed games. One of the beauties of 497 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: working inside this business, as you can have people cut 498 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 1: condensed games up for you and send them to you 499 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: in a private file so you can have them to watch. 500 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: Those are life savers. If some of you want to 501 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: get in on that, by the way, email me. I 502 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: could always use more editors. 503 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 2: And you get to watch the game while you're doing it, 504 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 2: so you learn something too. 505 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: Anyway, So I got a couple of games watched, and 506 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 1: then I head over to the airport, dropped the renal 507 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 1: car off and Tessay's a nightmare because it's so early 508 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,120 Speaker 1: at the airport that majority of their workers aren't there yet. 509 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 1: Did not think I was going to clear security and 510 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: get to the gate in time. I made it with 511 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: about five minutes to spare. We still have not slept, 512 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: by the way, and so we get. 513 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 2: On the plane. Oh beautiful, Thank you so much. 514 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 1: Southwest NonStop service from Pittsburgh to Nashville Sunday morning. 515 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 2: Get into Nashville. It is about eight thirty eight to 516 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 2: forty five. 517 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 1: When I finally get into the apartment, finish putting the 518 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: show together, which is a chore. It is a big 519 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 1: lift on a Sunday. 520 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 2: I don't complain. 521 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,640 Speaker 1: I love it, but because I insist on producing all 522 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: my shows, that means I got a lot to do 523 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: also you got to watch the games. I had a 524 00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: lot of games that I could not have watched on 525 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,679 Speaker 1: Saturday for obvious reasons. And so you're trying to do 526 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 1: all that. You're trying to accumulate your elements. Keep in mind, 527 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 1: Point Spreads lines are being released on Sunday, So I've 528 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: got our model being run. This is all happening simultaneous. 529 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 1: I've got our model being run, so I get our 530 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 1: model data, it spits out all of its projections to me. 531 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: Then Circa World opens for the Point Spreads, and then 532 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,679 Speaker 1: shortly thereafter a lot of the books open up, and 533 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,439 Speaker 1: so I'm trying to get our ram and Noudle Express 534 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:25,880 Speaker 1: picks out. 535 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 2: We had four of them, by the way on Sunday afternoon. 536 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: Then I got to get over to the actual studio 537 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 1: and we've got to put the show together, and I've 538 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 1: got to accumulate all my thoughts make sure we hit everything. 539 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 2: I've got to get the video. 540 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: From the animator one of you by the way, for 541 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 1: our Renaissance tour location. I've got to get that submitted 542 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: to either Stamford, Connecticut or Fort Lauderdale, Florida to get 543 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: loaded in ross inceptions run down. 544 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 2: So we can show it on air. 545 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: And I'm doing all this obviously, Wesley, as you have surmised, 546 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 1: on no sleep, and so we do the show. 547 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 2: I was proud of the show we did Sunday night. 548 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 1: I don't think I screwed up one name, and that's 549 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,160 Speaker 1: a miracle even when I'm fully rested, much less when 550 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,400 Speaker 1: I don't have any rest. Afterwards, I recorded a podcast, 551 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: I did an appearance for this upcoming week, and also 552 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: did some social cutups and whatnot. Got in bed probably 553 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,919 Speaker 1: around midnight, and I ran the math. That means it 554 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 1: was about twenty four to thirty six, about forty hours 555 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: consecutive with no sleep. And yet, as I was telling 556 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: you earlier, the same buddy that I used as the 557 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: sounding board for how I should handle Instagram, I was 558 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 1: talking to him about that and I said, you know, 559 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: make no mistake, it was nice when my head finally 560 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 1: hit the pillow. But you got to understand something, man, 561 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 1: as so many of you would agree with if you 562 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 1: were in the same exact position I'm in. This is 563 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:42,919 Speaker 1: dream job stuff. This is quite literally hand picking a 564 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 1: game that you want to go to from anywhere in 565 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 1: the country and then having your company send you there. 566 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,479 Speaker 1: And getting to stand on the sideline for it, and 567 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: then coming back home and they pay you. 568 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 2: To talk about it. I'll stay up a couple of 569 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 2: days for that. 570 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 1: Man. God made spring and summer to sleep. During fall 571 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: is no time to sleep. There's too much going on. 572 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 1: We wait all year for this, do we not? So? Absolutely? 573 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 1: If you've got to stay awake, you just stay awake. 574 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,719 Speaker 1: This is not actually work. This is just a hobby 575 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: that I happened to be paid to get to do. 576 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 1: It's not work. If we're working down in a coal 577 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 1: mine somewhere. Forty hours consecutive is pretty tough chore. This 578 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 1: is just college football, man, This is fun. This is 579 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 1: the kind of stuff that ten years ago, if I 580 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 1: had the financial means, I would throw every last dime 581 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,919 Speaker 1: I had into a road trip where I also didn't 582 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 1: sleep that allowed me to go to Penn State in Auburn, 583 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: because I know those things just don't happen all that often. 584 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,159 Speaker 1: College football, as we talked about so many times on 585 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 1: this podcast, it is about memories, regular season memories. In 586 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 1: most cases, they're encapsulated, they're enshrined. Think about this, because 587 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,400 Speaker 1: I know good andwell in a crowd of that size 588 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 1: just an ocean of people. Not even to see an 589 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 1: ocean of people. There had to be several hundreds or 590 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: thousands who experienced their first ever game. 591 00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,679 Speaker 2: Maybe it was a ten year old kid. Let's just 592 00:25:59,680 --> 00:25:59,919 Speaker 2: say it. 593 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: AD takes his ten year old kid to his first 594 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 1: Penn State game. If that kid lives out his average 595 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: or her average life expectancy, they're getting into what their seventies, 596 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 1: and so they have six decades. They have over half 597 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 1: a century left of life to live. They'll think about 598 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,880 Speaker 1: that night as long as they live, as long as 599 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 1: they have their mental faculties about them. When you start 600 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 1: talking about favorite memories, that's one of them. 601 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 2: Consider being a part of that. 602 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,199 Speaker 1: Consider being able to do that and then do it 603 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 1: every week, and you tell me that you're about to 604 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: complain about not having some sleep, No complaints, no complaints whatsoever. 605 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: Absolutely love doing it. I would turn the volume up 606 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 1: even more if I could. And I just realized that 607 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 1: I completely forgot the ad break. So let's go to 608 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 1: it right now, be right back, and just like that, 609 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 1: I'm back. Dakota had a really good question. He said, 610 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 1: I've been an Oregon fan of my whole life. I'm 611 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 1: curious as to what your take on us is right now. 612 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 2: Definite ascension mode. That's a kind of a caliber or 613 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 2: a category. 614 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 1: That we place programs in. Sometimes they are rising. Oregon 615 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 1: is rising. I was curious as to how they would 616 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 1: perform against Stonybrook, of all teams last week. What I 617 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: didn't want to do is I didn't want to be 618 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 1: standing in Beaver Stadium and look up at the scoreboard 619 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, some random score pops up 620 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 1: and it says Oregon twenty three, stony Brook twenty early 621 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: fourth quarter. That kind of stuff happens sometimes, especially when 622 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 1: you're coming off what they were coming off of, which 623 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: was a big time win on the road at Ohio State. 624 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: I know it wasn't a perfect game. It wasn't a 625 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: flawless game. Anthony Brown got hurt. Ty Thompson got in 626 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,880 Speaker 1: could be a blessing in disguise, not the injury, obviously, 627 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: but being able to get him some game reps. But 628 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 1: they took care of business, they pulled away. That's the 629 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 1: important part. Oregon is a team right now that I 630 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: think is realizing what it is capable of. That locker room, 631 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 1: sometimes you have to taste it, and they definitely did 632 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: on the road at Ohio State. It's like the old 633 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 1: Roger Banister four minutes mile thing. No one at least 634 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: on record had run a sub four minute mile, and 635 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 1: then Roger Banister ran one. Well, since then, thousands and 636 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 1: thousands of people have run sub four minute miles. So 637 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 1: the question always was, well, were they not capable of 638 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: it until Roger Banister did it or did they just 639 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: have to see that it was possible to then realize, oh, 640 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: I could do that too. Sometimes that exists and then 641 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: manifest itself in a locker room, in a team environment, 642 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: a team setting, where you just have to do something 643 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 1: to know that it. 644 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 2: Could be done. 645 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: Well, all of a sudden, Oregon goes into Columbus, Ohio 646 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 1: and they beat Ohio State in the shoe, and they 647 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 1: have to have looked in the mirror and said, well, 648 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 1: if we're capable of that, what else are we capable of? Well, 649 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: they were always capable of it, as the point, but 650 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 1: that's in the past. Now if they realize it and 651 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: they're in ascension mode, and this is clearly the best 652 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 1: roster Marios had there, you never know what they're capable of. 653 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 2: Cause also keep something else in mind. This is not 654 00:28:58,840 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 2: just in a vacuum. 655 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: This Oregon team is also existing in the same year 656 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 1: where we do see. 657 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 2: Flaws with all the other teams. There is no juggernaut 658 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 2: out there. 659 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 1: What's the team right now you're looking at and saying 660 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 1: Oregon would never have a shot against them. Oregon would 661 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 1: have at least a puncher's chance at any of these 662 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 1: teams right now, including Alabama, They wouldn't have a good 663 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,959 Speaker 1: shot that have a puncher's chance at him, just because 664 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 1: those teams are not the caliber with Alabama for example, 665 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: even that we saw last year. So it's really a 666 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 1: good time. It's a good year for this to be 667 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,239 Speaker 1: happening for Oregon. I think they're going to end up 668 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 1: getting a taste of the postseason. I think they're going 669 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 1: to get that taste, and what they do with it 670 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: remains to be seen. But keep in mind, this version 671 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: of Oregon, the Mario Cristobaul organ they have not been 672 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 1: there yet, and so you know, the PAC twelve championship 673 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 1: situation even last year was kind of weird. But this year, yeah, 674 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 1: it's set up very well for Oregon. 675 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 2: Right now. 676 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 1: It's about consistency. The tightrope keeps getting higher and higher, 677 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: you can't afford to fall the lady you get in 678 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 1: the season. You know all the old cliches, so I'm 679 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: looking forward to watching them. I'm going to have Mark 680 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 1: take us home here because Mark asked a question that 681 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 1: kind of went in line with the second to last question. 682 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 1: Mark was at the Florida Alabama game, and so here's 683 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,239 Speaker 1: what he said. I think a lot of you are 684 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 1: going to be able to identify with this. He said, 685 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: have you ever had a time when a game atmosphere 686 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 1: was so good that it affected you up to a 687 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 1: day or two afterwards. I had that experience in Gainesville 688 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 1: on Saturday. I'm in Alabama grad. I made the day 689 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 1: trip out of it since I live in Florida. 690 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 2: Now. 691 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 1: From the time I got out of the swamp, I 692 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 1: just had a feeling of appreciation and awe for what 693 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: I saw and experienced, especially the whole Tom Petty won't 694 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: back down performance from the crowd between the third and 695 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 1: fourth quarters. 696 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 2: That is awesome. 697 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 1: By the way, I've seen that from field level. I've 698 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 1: got a video of that on my Instagram. That's pretty awesome. 699 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 1: He continues. It was still there on the drive home, 700 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 1: and I've thought about it the whole day today, And 701 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 1: the only thing I've had like that was the twenty 702 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 1: thirteen home game against LSU at night when I was 703 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: in the student section. Yes, yes, this happens to me, 704 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 1: and yes, I guarantee you. If you're fortunate enough to 705 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 1: have attended some games and you're listening right now, maybe 706 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 1: you're driving around Frankfort, Kentucky, or even Philadelphia, Mississippi, home 707 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 1: to one of the most picturesque EF five tornadoes you 708 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 1: will ever see, incredibly violent. I would encourage you find 709 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 1: the Philadelphia, Mississippi EF five tornado on YouTube. 710 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 2: It was racing, screaming. 711 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 1: It was on April twenty seventh, one of the most 712 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 1: catastrophic days in Southern US history. But man, what a 713 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: just from a purely atmospheric scientific standpoint, what a picturesque site. Anyway, 714 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 1: maybe you're driving around and you're thinking about a game 715 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 1: that you have been to, I guarantee you. For example, 716 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 1: if you live in Philadelphia and you were there the 717 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 1: day at Ole, miss that you guys beat Alabama and 718 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 1: then proceeded to carry the goalpost out of the stadium 719 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 1: and down the road, I would say that that date 720 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: has probably stuck with you had to have stuck with 721 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 1: you several days or maybe even weeks and months and 722 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 1: years after you experienced it. Mark, I'm telling you, Man, 723 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 1: this last weekend, this is not recentcy biased. This last 724 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 1: weekend for me was that I remember going into the 725 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 1: year when we were trying to map out. 726 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 2: Our travel schedule. 727 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 1: This day was always going to be tough because we 728 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 1: have Bama going to Florida. As you well know, that 729 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 1: doesn't happen very often. And then we also had the 730 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 1: Auburn Penn State whiteout situation, and for a kid like 731 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 1: me from the Deep South, I've never been able to 732 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: experience that, and I certainly don't see our teams go 733 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: up to the north very often. I grew up forty 734 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 1: five minutes from Auburn. Last time they went to the 735 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 1: Big Tennles in nineteen thirty one. So I know, trying 736 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 1: to figure out which environment, which memory, is going to 737 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 1: be better to have experienced. It turns out there wasn't 738 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 1: a wrong choice last Saturday, because I don't think anyone 739 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 1: who was in attendance down in Gainesville says Man, I 740 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 1: wish I wouldn't here today. That was a waste of time. 741 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 1: That was a classic. It was a great place to be. 742 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 1: So was Penn State. But I think you and I 743 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 1: are in the same boat, Mark, because I'm telling you 744 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 1: right now I have had trouble shifting gears, which I 745 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: normally never have problem doing. I've had a little bit 746 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 1: of trouble shifting gears to this week. Now. That's about 747 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 1: to change in earnest later tonight because it is Prediction 748 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 1: night on Lake Kick Live. So by the time the 749 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 1: sun goes down, or at least the clock strikes midnight 750 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 1: on Tuesday, we will have predicted Arkansas versus Texas A 751 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 1: and M, among other games. And so obviously it's time 752 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 1: to turn the page. But yes, brother, I have experienced that. 753 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 1: That National championship game in twenty seventeen, the Alabama over 754 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 1: Georgia game. I've told you this story before. I lived 755 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 1: an hour south of Atlanta where the game was. I 756 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 1: did not leave that building. I did not leave Mercedes 757 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 1: Benz Stadium until the sun was rising the next morning. 758 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 1: That was the second and twenty sixth game the Alabama 759 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 1: walk off for a national championship, and I'm standing on 760 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 1: the field for it. That was just euphoria. It wouldn't 761 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 1: have mattered who was playing the teams were totally irrelevant. 762 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 1: It was the experience. It was the moment so unbelievable. 763 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 1: I mean that one's stuck with me for a long time. 764 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 1: I was talking about that and watching replays of that 765 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 1: for days and days and days afterwards. I've been doing 766 00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 1: the same thing with this Auburn Penn State game. I'll 767 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 1: tell you one thing I regret is I've been able 768 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 1: to experience a lot of really cool stuff that I've 769 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 1: forgotten just because you forget stuff. I mean, any normal 770 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 1: person forgets things if you're not like a rain Man type. 771 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 1: And so what I wish is that from the very 772 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 1: beginning when I started to get to go to games, 773 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: I wish I would have kept a thoughts log like 774 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,800 Speaker 1: I do now. My flight home consists of me literally 775 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 1: writing down everything I can remember about the previous day, 776 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 1: about the trip so that I can reference it, you know, 777 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 1: when it comes February or March, and I want to 778 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 1: have some storytelling type segments. I want to be able 779 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 1: to remember every single detail of a trip that I 780 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,360 Speaker 1: took in week two or week nine. 781 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 2: And I do that now. 782 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 1: I haven't always done that, but it's so funny how 783 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 1: vivid it makes the memory. This obviously works for more 784 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,760 Speaker 1: than just football. It is so important to write down 785 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 1: details about your memories and your day to day activities. 786 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,880 Speaker 1: It's so crazy what it does to better sculpt and 787 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 1: round out your overall memory, because if you remember something 788 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 1: about one day five years ago, then chances are you 789 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 1: also remember or something that bookended. 790 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 2: It before or after, and it just gives you. 791 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 1: A more complete recollection. And I don't know I started 792 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 1: doing that. I wish I would have always done it. 793 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 1: So the reason I'm saying that mark is cause there 794 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 1: are probably three or four other games that I experienced 795 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 1: incredible things at, like the Tennessee. I'll tell you what 796 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,719 Speaker 1: I just thought of. It was in twenty sixteen Tennessee 797 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 1: at Georgia. Josh Dobbs hits Juwan Jennings in the end zone, 798 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:26,279 Speaker 1: Hail Mary, no time left. Georgia had just scored a 799 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 1: go ahead touchdown with less than thirty seconds to go 800 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 1: in the game, and then Tennessee answers back with a 801 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 1: Hail Mary. And I was right there. It happened right 802 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 1: in front of me. I got some of the best 803 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,479 Speaker 1: cell phone footage ever for that game. That was one 804 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 1: of those games that up until I started talking and 805 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,320 Speaker 1: responding to this question. I hadn't thought about it in 806 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,440 Speaker 1: quite a while. I had not thought about that. I mean, 807 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 1: that should be burned in your memory, and it is. 808 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 1: But I had to be able to recall it. So 809 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 1: now I just recalled it. Had I written things down 810 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 1: that day, man, I'd be able to tell you every 811 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 1: detail of that afternoon light the back of my hand. 812 00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 2: So we're rectifying that now. 813 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 1: I say all that to say, yes, Mark, I have 814 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 1: experienced that, and I hope to experience much more of that. 815 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,399 Speaker 1: The one of many fortunate aspects of what I get 816 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 1: to do now is you get to put yourself in 817 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,360 Speaker 1: position to have that, and then you guys get to 818 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,360 Speaker 1: benefit because I get to tell you all about it, 819 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,800 Speaker 1: including some stuff you didn't see and some things you 820 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:20,279 Speaker 1: didn't even know happened before, during and afterwards, which makes 821 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 1: the all access segments we do during the downtime a 822 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:24,880 Speaker 1: lot of fun. All right, I got to get this 823 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 1: sent to producer Jordan. I really appreciate you guys supporting 824 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,759 Speaker 1: the show and supporting the brand. Three of you god 825 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 1: on National TV Saturday. Three of you, two of you 826 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 1: got on SEC Nation, one of you got on College 827 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 1: Game Day. That makes four and two weeks, and I 828 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 1: want to remind you I am almost ready. I'm so 829 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 1: close to being ready to tell you what you're going 830 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 1: to get. It's going to be unique. There's nothing else 831 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 1: out there like it. I can tell you that if 832 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 1: you get this program, you get the brand, you get 833 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 1: peyt State or Late Kick, if you get us national 834 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,800 Speaker 1: exposure of any kind, you are going to get something. 835 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 2: I am again ready. 836 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:01,799 Speaker 1: To tell you what it is yet, because it's being 837 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,719 Speaker 1: built a day. Multiples are being built. But already we 838 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,879 Speaker 1: got four heroes with hardware coming their way. We'll see 839 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 1: if we make it three weeks in a row this Saturday, 840 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:12,440 Speaker 1: but either way, man, I appreciate it. 841 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 2: It so it's so awesome to see that. So thank 842 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 2: you so much again for producer Jordan. I'm Josh Paint. 843 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 2: Have yourselves a great rest of your day, and God 844 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:20,360 Speaker 2: bless