1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George 2 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center. 3 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 2: Jack Armstrong is Joe Getty arm Strong and Jetty, and 4 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:21,760 Speaker 2: now he Armstrong and Yetty. So I haven't heard this yet. 5 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: This is an adult translating gen Z words for older people. 6 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 2: Now hang on in a second gen Z. That's which 7 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:34,919 Speaker 2: one is that that people like. 8 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 3: The young teens and early twenties, right, the people that 9 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 3: the young was a great depression. No, I don't believe 10 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 3: so the younger people, Okay, the youngsters. 11 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:49,520 Speaker 4: Ohio is weird, bogus, skibbitty is random, is off the wall, 12 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 4: Riz is swag is game, Rizzler is player, is mac daddy, 13 00:00:56,040 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 4: No cap is no lie for real, Sus is shady, sketchy, 14 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 4: Yatt is dump truck booty, cotton four K is exposed, 15 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 4: busted meat, writing is simping, brown nosing, pressed is butt 16 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 4: herd bent out of shape, bust in is bomb dope. 17 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: So Kenda relates it to the slang of a previous 18 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 1: generation or two. I wish I had that written down 19 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: in front of me, because there were several of those 20 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: that went by. So I know for a fact a 21 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:34,279 Speaker 1: couple of those I've used with my sophomore in high school, 22 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 1: and he said, Dad, nobody says that anymore. But several 23 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: of those my son does use currently, like Ohio gets 24 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 1: used a lot, I don't know, point for state of 25 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: Ohio came to represent. We played the very beginning of 26 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: that again, Ohio is weird bogus? Yeah, yeah, Ohio gets it. 27 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: That is so Ohio. 28 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, and he uses that now and then, you know, 29 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 3: as a guy with an empty nest, I can't imagine. 30 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 3: And he says, I have less interest in knowing than 31 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 3: the momentary slang of the young, except in a kind 32 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 3: of linguistic curiosity. 33 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 1: Wow, and it comes to go so fast, So I 34 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: don't I don't try to memorize it or anything that. 35 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 1: But it is hilarious that And I'm sure you had 36 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: this experience when your kids were younger. Sometimes I hear 37 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: my son having a conversation where he like either doesn't 38 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: know or forgets. 39 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 2: I'm listening. 40 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 1: It's like, what, Bra, you're so Ohio, bra bustin'. 41 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 3: Well, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know 42 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 3: you people are talking about Yeah, that's been true for 43 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 3: every gent Oh sure, absolutely, Daddy, it's it's kind of cute. 44 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 3: I just you know, in all of human history until now, 45 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 3: I never would have heard it. So and I resent 46 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 3: the fact that my generation finally got old and bitter 47 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 3: and we're exposed to the lingo of the youth through 48 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 3: the damn Internet and or media. 49 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, one thing will always be true. Hippies ruined the world. 50 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 2: So yes, got a haircut. 51 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 1: Harpie Tim Bussfield, pretty famous actor for Depending on Your 52 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: Age for a couple of big shows that he was in, 53 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: and a. 54 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 2: Friend of the Armstrong Engetty Show. 55 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 1: If you have caught on to he's in the news lately, 56 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: made the evening newscast last night, so we'll talk about 57 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: that story coming up next. 58 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 2: We have a personal connection with the guys. 59 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely accused of some terrible, terrible things. So 60 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 3: Trump and Cump have become convinced that the affordability thing, 61 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 3: the economic stuff, is important, especially to their electoral chances 62 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 3: made in the midterms, maybe the most important thing. Oh yeah, 63 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 3: they've decided that because it's absolutely correct. Yeah, and they've 64 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 3: trotted out a handful of different measures or proposals, I 65 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 3: should say, like a ban on large investors from buying 66 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 3: single family homes. 67 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: Like this is all with a very short runway, because 68 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: it's all about for the mid terms, trying to make 69 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: enough people think Trump. There's about affordability that on the 70 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: election in ten months, the Republicans can hold onto the House. 71 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: So it's almost I don't know how many of these 72 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: could have any effect by then, but some of it's 73 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: just got to sound like a really good idea. 74 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 2: And some of them would have an effect by then. 75 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, And honestly, if you accept that analysis, and I 76 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 3: think you're absolutely right talking about the wisdom or lack 77 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 3: of wisdom of the various programs, it's kind of a 78 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 3: waste of time unless you just enjoy understanding how economics work. 79 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 3: I mean, because Trump doesn't plan on any of these 80 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 3: actually existing probably or something that will put more money 81 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 3: in your pocket in the next couple of months. 82 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 2: Ain't necessarily a good idea for the country. 83 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, well, a lot of it, like capping credit 84 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 3: card rates and forcing the Fed to lower interest rates. 85 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,919 Speaker 3: That's going to be as inflationary as Joe Biden's wildest 86 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 3: spreading money across the Hinterland's dream. 87 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:01,919 Speaker 1: Well, let's back up to the first one, and then 88 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: I want to talk about the credit card ones, the 89 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: one you talked about with corporations buying single family homes. Yeah, 90 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: so I know in the town I live in, particularly 91 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: with foreign companies like big giant conglomerates buy up the 92 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: houses and they're willing to pay a price that other 93 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: people won't pay, and then it's driven up and I 94 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: hate it. Yeah, And I don't know what you do 95 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: about it when you're a free market guy. But the 96 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 1: interesting thing about that is in the whole Trump derangement 97 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:36,679 Speaker 1: syndrome world where you've got to be against anything Trump 98 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 1: is four. 99 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 2: I flip on NPR when. 100 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: I get in my truck yesterday and they had somebody 101 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 1: on there talking about this is typical Trump, how awful 102 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: this is that he wants to ban corporations from buying 103 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: single family homes. And they tossed it somehow, they twisted 104 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 1: it into a way that it's going to hurt the 105 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 1: working class. 106 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 2: What are you talking about. 107 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: If there's anything unfair going on here, it would be 108 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: against the super rich, who you know, probably should have 109 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: the right to an ability to do, just like everybody else, 110 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 1: to buy homes if they have the money. But it's 111 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: interesting that NPR had to twist it into a way 112 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: that it was a bad thing, right, you know, I 113 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: mean I have a Jarney idea this sort of thing. 114 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely several of them are well. 115 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,239 Speaker 3: Elizabeth Warren has come out in favor of, like captain 116 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 3: credit card raids, which again is an insane idea because 117 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,239 Speaker 3: everybody will just get cut off, they won't have credit 118 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,239 Speaker 3: cards anymore, or they'll have credit limits of thirty three dollars. 119 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 2: But the housing thing is interesting. 120 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 3: It reminds me a little bit of the question of 121 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 3: a lot of our libertarian brothers, like Capital l Libertarian 122 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:47,799 Speaker 3: Party wackadoodles who get together at their conventions and accomplish nothing. Ever, sorry, 123 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 3: fellas and you're almost entirely fellas and anyway, but fellas well, 124 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 3: And it reminds me of the discussion about open borders. 125 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 3: They're staunchly in favor of open borders, but that's conditional 126 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 3: on there being no welfare state. And though I might 127 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 3: dream of such a beautiful day, and I think certain 128 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 3: people ought to you know, I'm fine with them getting 129 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 3: some of my tax money, although private charity ought to 130 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 3: be much bigger in it. 131 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 2: Let's not get off on that tangent. 132 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: The disappearance of the welfare state is never going to exist, 133 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: So stop yelling at me about open freaking borders. 134 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 2: We're wasting our time here. 135 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 3: And the housing thing, My argument against the free market argument, 136 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 3: which it pains me to even make, is that in 137 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 3: a lot of parts of America, housing production is so 138 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 3: constrained by government regulation it becomes an extreme example of 139 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 3: like you know, in the radio industry, there are only 140 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 3: a limited number of licenses, and so you can't have 141 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 3: a true free market because the market can't produce more 142 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 3: to lower the price when demand gets too high. And 143 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 3: in the housing market, it's it's very, very difficult, especially 144 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 3: in blue states, to build more house So theoretically, if 145 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 3: you're a free market guy, you know, whether it's a 146 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 3: foreign corporation which I especially hate, or an American one 147 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 3: buying up all the available housing, the free market argument 148 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 3: as well, that jacked up the price. So more and 149 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 3: more companies will build more and more houses because there's 150 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 3: so much money in it, and that will inevitably bring 151 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 3: down the price, as the market always does with incredible efficiency. 152 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 3: But again, there's so many artificial government constraints on building 153 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 3: that that can't happen. So you have a situation where 154 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 3: you have these citizens the taxpayers, unable to afford housing, 155 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 3: which is one of the basic needs of humankind. And 156 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 3: so if you're going to have the regulations, you can't 157 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 3: have that. 158 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 2: Part of the free market at work. 159 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 3: And again it pains me to make that argument, but 160 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 3: I just I despise the ideas of the idea of 161 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 3: Chinese oligarchs buying up all of these starter homes in 162 00:08:56,800 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 3: an area and letting them deteriorate, overcharging for rent or 163 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:03,559 Speaker 3: not giving a damn, letting the neighborhoods go to hell. 164 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 2: It's just it's poisonous. I don't like it. We're just 165 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 2: pricing it out of the market for regular people. 166 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, community matters, and we've underestimated underestimating that as a country. 167 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:15,959 Speaker 3: I think I'm culture and community matter. 168 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 2: I love this issue in general. 169 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 1: I was listened to a podcast about it the other 170 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: day and it was blowing my mind. And they were 171 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: using a whole bunch of different examples of you love 172 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: the idea of having principles and beliefs. 173 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 2: We all do. I do. I do have principles and beliefs. 174 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,439 Speaker 1: But there are all kinds of examples where you can 175 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: get into thorny, gray areas where you can't just have 176 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:42,199 Speaker 1: a rigid this is what I believe and stick with it. 177 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: It's just impossible when it runs up against the real world. 178 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: And it's a fascinating topic. 179 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that. I'd like to hear that. Now. 180 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 2: It happens a lot, and. 181 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 3: It certainly doesn't happen enough that you ought to not 182 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 3: have prince. No, no, you've got to You've got. 183 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 1: To have principles in belief, right, and uh but you 184 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 1: but there well, there are endless examples of where they 185 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 1: run into the real world and you have to give 186 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: a little bit on them to make things work, usually 187 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: because there are other realities, kind of like your example 188 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 1: of sure, I like a practically non existent safety net 189 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:24,439 Speaker 1: only for people who can help themselves. 190 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:30,079 Speaker 2: Love the idea of that. Uh, but we're never gonna 191 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 2: have that. 192 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: So since we have a giant safety net to help 193 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 1: anybody who doesn't want to work, you can't have open borders. 194 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: I mean, so those two things running up against each other. 195 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, for what it's worth, there's more on and 196 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 3: you know, some days, just you know, how much do 197 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 3: you good people want to be outraged? I mean, you 198 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,439 Speaker 3: got your own problems, You got your own life. You're 199 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 3: ware the government sucks, it's fraudulent, they're still and your money. 200 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 3: Blah blah blah. But we don't want to lay it 201 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 3: on too thick, because you know, you know, you don't 202 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 3: want to be angry all time. But I tweeted the 203 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 3: other day a whimsical definition of welfare, which is a 204 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 3: theft program that is occasionally exploited by the needy. 205 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 2: Ah, that's pretty good. Yeah, And man, you look coast 206 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 2: to coast. You know what. 207 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 3: The notable thing about the Minnesota rip off is the 208 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 3: however many billions of dollars. 209 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 1: The notable thing about it is that anybody's paying any 210 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: attention to it. It's not even that impressive buy for instance, 211 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: California standards. 212 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 2: There's a giant scandal in Mississippi. 213 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: It's welfare, the government dole is a theft program. 214 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 2: That occasionally is exploited by the needy. 215 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: Do you remember actor Tim Bussfield. He won Emmys on 216 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 1: thirty something what was that, early nineties, and then he 217 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: was a big deal in the West Wing, where he 218 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: won more Emmys direct, prolific director of good TV shows 219 00:11:56,240 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: as well, big stage actor guy writer. Yeah, yeah, a 220 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: friend of the show. We used to have him on regularly, 221 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: and he used to be on right after us with 222 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: his own radio show. He's in a you know, a 223 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: high profile sex thing that's got all of the ingredients 224 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:17,079 Speaker 1: of the media liking to pay attention to it. So 225 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: we'll bring that to your attention coming up among other 226 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: things to talk about. 227 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 2: Stay with us. 228 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 5: In late twenty twenty four, Timothy Bussfield is working as 229 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 5: a director and an actor on The Cleaning Lady where 230 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 5: he comes into contact with these two boys. 231 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 2: So they're twin boys. 232 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 5: The boys make a statement to their mom that raises 233 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 5: her antenna and she contacts a lawyer. The lawyer advises 234 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 5: her to go seek a medical professional. After the medical 235 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 5: professional examines the boys, now things start to unfold. What 236 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 5: he's been accused of two counts of improper contact with miners, 237 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 5: and the child abuse in the state of New Mexico 238 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 5: carries a mandatory minimum of three years if he's found guilty. 239 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:00,239 Speaker 5: He maintains his innocence. He surrendered himself to the police. 240 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: They're all lies, and I did not do anything to 241 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: those little boys, and I'm I'm gonna fight it. 242 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 2: That's Timothy Bussfield. If your fifties. 243 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:15,359 Speaker 1: And sixties, probably he's a He was a major television 244 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:18,319 Speaker 1: star of some television shows you watched. I don't know 245 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 1: if there are well, are there even such thing as 246 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: TV stars now? I don't know if you could be 247 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: a TV star, But back when, you know, gazillions of 248 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 1: people would tune into number one shows. He was a 249 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: star of West Wing in thirty something and a couple 250 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 1: of big hits. And we know him personally, so I 251 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: hope this isn't true. I haven't spent enough time thinking 252 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 1: about it or looking into it, because it's pretty much 253 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 1: impossible to ever tell what's true or not from TMZ 254 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: reports anyway. 255 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's strenuously denying any of it is true, and 256 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 3: I you know, he's a lovely and thoughtful guy. But 257 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 3: I have nothing upon which to base an opinion in 258 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 3: either direction, because who knows what sexual evil lurks in 259 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 3: the hearts of any of us. Nobody does, so I'll 260 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 3: let the system work. It's a shame. 261 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: I hope it's not true, because he's again a lovely 262 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 1: guy made national news. 263 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,199 Speaker 2: Let's hear a little bit from ABC's report from last night. 264 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 6: Police say the mother told CPS. The alleged abuse started 265 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 6: when one of the alleged victims was seven and lasted 266 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 6: more than a year, when the victims saying Tim would 267 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 6: come into the bedroom on the movie set and inappropriately 268 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 6: touched the child actors multiple times. The affidavit claims the 269 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 6: children said they were afraid to tell anyone because Tim 270 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 6: was the director. One child was later diagnosed with PTSD. 271 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: And then a little more on the to the actual 272 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: him ending up under arrest. 273 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:46,359 Speaker 6: One point yesterday US marshalls were searching for Timothy Bussfield 274 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 6: in the Catskills of New York. 275 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 2: Late yesterday he turned himself in here in New Mexico. 276 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 2: He claimed he will be exonerated. 277 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 6: Accused of repeatedly sexually abusing those two boys on a 278 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 6: TV show set. 279 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: Could be completely guilty, could be completely innis. And I 280 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: haven't got the slightest idea. He's a pretty old guy 281 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: at this point. Anytime these things pop up when you're old, 282 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: I often think you didn't start doing this now, So 283 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: who knows? 284 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, And just to the whole he was 285 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 3: on the lamb or something. He no, you explained no. 286 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 3: When this came out, I got served the papers. I 287 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 3: called an attorney and essentially we decided get to New 288 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 3: Mexico and let's deal with this. So I jumped in 289 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 3: his car and headed for New Meskican. Tim Bushfield fly, 290 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 3: I don't know. It's a hell of a long drive. 291 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: A related story about Tim Busfield, It's got nothing to 292 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: do with this case. He was the person we learned 293 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: from and this was fantastic because we used to have 294 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: him on the show all the time. He and his 295 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: brother have had have a theater in Sacramento where they 296 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: put on plays. I went and watched Tim do a 297 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: play there one time. He started a play and it 298 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: was really interesting seeing a top notch professional actor with 299 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: other also good actors but amateurs like stood out as 300 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: like Lebron James playing basketball against people who are very 301 00:15:58,440 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: good but not professionals. 302 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 2: I mean, it was really interesting to see. 303 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: But he is the one to explain to us in 304 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: this radio studio many many years ago about what he 305 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: learned about fame. He became really really famous as a 306 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: young man, like he was one of the biggest stars 307 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: in America. Covers a TV Guide and stuff like that, 308 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: whin an Emmys, and then when it all came to 309 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: an end, he realized that fame. 310 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 2: Is completely made up. 311 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 1: It's not a thing you don't become. You don't become famous, 312 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: famous in the eye of other people, and as soon 313 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: as it goes away, you are still the same person 314 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: you always were, and it's as if it never happened, 315 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 1: which x news for me to hear as a guy 316 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: as we were becoming a little more famous. Yeah, I 317 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: guess was he the guy who told us famous and 318 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: something you have famous, something they have? 319 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 2: Yeah? 320 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah right, And you know, it's been 321 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 3: illustrated by We'll meet two people, one who's been a 322 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 3: huge fan for a very long time, and so they're 323 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 3: so nervous that they can barely speak. And their companion 324 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 3: has never heard of us and is like, yeah, good 325 00:16:59,080 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 3: to meet you. 326 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 2: How you doing. Since they have the fame we don't, 327 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 2: it's so dump. 328 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: Right, And he says he bought into it and thought 329 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: he was permanently, you know, a different person, special man, 330 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 1: by being famous, and then found out that wasn't the case. 331 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:14,719 Speaker 1: So right, that was a good lesson for me from 332 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: Tim Busfield. We got a lot more on the way 333 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 1: if you missed a second to get the podcast, Armstrong 334 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 1: and Getty on. 335 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 2: Demand Armstrong and Getty. 336 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 7: US investors believe they may have the source behind the 337 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 7: mysterious illness known as Havana syndrome. It first emerged in 338 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 7: late twenty sixteen, when US diplomats stationed in Cuba reported 339 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:38,239 Speaker 7: symptoms of vertigo and extreme headaches. US Defense Department has 340 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 7: spent nearly a decade trying to find the cause. 341 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 4: Well. 342 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 7: Now, sources tell CNN that Homeland security investigators have been 343 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 7: testing a device purchased in an undercover operation that maybe 344 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 7: the culprit. They say it emits pulse radio waves and 345 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:56,360 Speaker 7: contains some Russian components. Device still being studied. The illness 346 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 7: remains officially unexplained. 347 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 2: So we talked about that a lot. 348 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: Sixty minutes has done a couple of segments on it, 349 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: and when we played clips because it's so troubling. 350 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 2: And it was it the Chinese, was it the Russians? 351 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 2: Was it the Iranians? North Koreans? 352 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: But then in light of the fact that we used 353 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 1: the old brain scambler there maybe in Venezuela to grab Maduro, 354 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 1: do we have one too well? 355 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,199 Speaker 3: And remember back when it was getting so much coverage. 356 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 3: The other thing was it's probably dys psychosomatic. Those poor 357 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 3: people imagined it, which I never bought for a second 358 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 3: me neither. 359 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 2: How interesting. 360 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I hope that story continues to develop in your angles. 361 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 3: Exactly right, that's what Maduroites are saying. It was like 362 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:38,679 Speaker 3: my brain was on fire. Oh, speaking of matters military, 363 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 3: you've heard me, Joe Getti, ranting about DEI and how 364 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 3: evil and awful it is for a long time. I'm 365 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 3: afraid I've been under selling it, the damage done to 366 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 3: our military by that DEI Biden Lloyd Austin period of 367 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:55,120 Speaker 3: our history. 368 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 2: It's this worse than I'd imagine. More on that to come. 369 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: So what drives DEI fits into this measure that's going 370 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 1: to be voted on in California. It's this, I think 371 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 1: normal human impulse for fairness. I think we're born with 372 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 1: some sort of a lot of religious people say this 373 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 1: is proof of God. 374 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 2: And that sort of thing. We're born with this desire 375 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 2: for fairness. 376 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 3: I think it's an instinctive understanding that if we don't 377 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:29,399 Speaker 3: have it, everything falls apart. 378 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:38,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, but past a certain age, you realize or should 379 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: realize that if you have two fifty year olds head 380 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: of households and one has more money than the other. 381 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 1: That is not a concrete example of something being unfair. 382 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: Right to about half the population, it seems to be, well, that's. 383 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 2: Unfair that person more than that person. To the rest 384 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 2: of us, it's like, well, give me more information. How 385 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 2: hard did that guy work? How smart did that guy work? 386 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 2: Or woman? 387 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: All kinds of different things. It doesn't mean anything on 388 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: two dollars and I got one. That's not fair. 389 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 2: Johnny worked way harder than you and longer. Son. 390 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think once you pass eight years old, you 391 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 3: ought to abandon that. 392 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 2: Or person a made series of terrible decisions, right. Uh. 393 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:28,120 Speaker 2: And that fits in with this this. 394 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: Wealth tax ballot measure that's going to be on the 395 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:38,439 Speaker 1: ballot in California that frighteningly was winning in polling not 396 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: very long ago. The wealth tax, it's a one. 397 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 2: Time ha ha. That's a good one. 398 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: Any one time tax is just if you fall for 399 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: that you are a child. 400 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 2: It's a temporary tax. 401 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: It's a one time five percent tax on California resident's 402 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:56,199 Speaker 1: worth more than a billion dollars. 403 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 2: Let me throw out a quick example. 404 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 1: It's a temporary COVID era for medicare, A temporary that's 405 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,640 Speaker 1: a good one right. 406 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 2: Now. I didn't actually read the bill. 407 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: Is it five percent on all the money you have 408 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: more than a billion dollars? Or is it on your 409 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: entire net worth if you're worth more than a billion dollars. 410 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 1: I don't know what it is, but five percent tax 411 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,919 Speaker 1: in California resident's worth more than a billion dollars and 412 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: it was winning in the polls fifty five percent support. 413 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: This article, which I think is missing the point in 414 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 1: the New York Post, says that support has collapsed to 415 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: just forty one percent of voters after respondents heard arguments 416 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: from both sides. The pollsters said, So that's pretty interesting. 417 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 1: Somebody got out there and made an argument to it. Well, 418 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 1: first of all, all the billionaires will flee the state 419 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: before it's enacted, so you won't get any money and 420 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:52,120 Speaker 1: you'll have less tax revenue, period. 421 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 2: So there's one downside going forward. 422 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, but as Charlie Cook pointed out in the 423 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: National Review, the fact that it's still got forty one 424 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: percent support is horrifying, and the underlying polling on it, 425 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,439 Speaker 1: a majority of voters field the wealth tax will be 426 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 1: ineffective and not make a difference in the gap between 427 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 1: the extremely wealthy and everyone else. So the goal is 428 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 1: to narrow the gap between the extremely wealthy and everyone else. 429 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,880 Speaker 2: How why in the world. 430 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,400 Speaker 1: Do you think that if the richest people have less 431 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: money that helps you. I'll never understand that. Well, and 432 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:29,439 Speaker 1: here's here's the truth. 433 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 3: If you were to poll people, I don't know what 434 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,400 Speaker 3: the percentage would be, but it'd be too high. If 435 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 3: you were to say, if we could just make the 436 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 3: rich less rich, the money. 437 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 2: Wouldn't go to you in any way. 438 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: It would just go to government bureaucrats and those whose 439 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 1: backs they scratch, but it would make the rich less rich. 440 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 3: Are you in favor of that. There's a pretty good 441 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 3: chunk of people who say, yes, I just want them 442 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 3: brought down, even if it enriches the evil doers and 443 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 3: doesn't want that. 444 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:56,400 Speaker 2: That's why I wanted to bring it up. That's way. 445 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 2: It's a deadly sin. 446 00:22:58,000 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, that's why I wanted to bring it up, 447 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 1: and I teased it last hour. As you know, if 448 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:04,919 Speaker 1: you want to spend the rest of your life living 449 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 1: in envy and being miserable. 450 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 2: Because that's what you're setting yourself up for. 451 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: I mean, if you're gonna go with the idea, if 452 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: some people have more than me. 453 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:17,360 Speaker 2: I'm unhappy. What you'll never be happy. 454 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: It's a nut job way of looking at the world. 455 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 2: Do you have enough right now? You know? 456 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 1: Look back to when you were twenty five and if 457 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 1: you if you'd told twenty five year old you you'd 458 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 1: be living in this house and driving this car and 459 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: blah blah blah, would you have been happy with it? 460 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: And if you can say yes to that. 461 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 2: Who gives a crap? 462 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 1: If there's a billionaire somewhere, what the hell difference does 463 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 1: it make? Right? Unless you think the deck is stacked, 464 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: then it's the deck stacking that you ought to go after. 465 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,640 Speaker 3: But that's you know, hard and complicated. But yeah, it's 466 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 3: just envy. And trust me what I say. And it 467 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 3: took a long day and time we've done okay. And 468 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 3: there's always somebody with more mind. There's always somebody with 469 00:23:56,320 --> 00:24:00,360 Speaker 3: a bigger house, more houses, cooler stuff, et cetera. Goes 470 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 3: out to nice your dinners, buys more expensive mind. There's always, always, always, always, 471 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 3: always somebody. If you'd like to make yourself completely insane, 472 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 3: base your happiness on what other people have. 473 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 2: We've been talking about this for so long. 474 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: I used to say unless you're Bill Gates, there's always 475 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 1: somebody out there with more money. Now it's Elon Musk, 476 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: buy a lot. He has seven hundred billion dollars. But 477 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: unless you're Elon Musk, there's everybody on the planet. There's 478 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 1: somebody that has more money than you. So what you're 479 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 1: gonna be You're gonna be unhappy until they're brought down 480 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 1: to your level. That makes no sense to me, whatsoever. 481 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 1: Fifty three percent said the measure. The reason they're against 482 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 1: it is the measure won't make a difference in the 483 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: gap between the wealthy and everyone else. Yeah, it's the 484 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 1: question on its face drives me nuts. 485 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 2: So I don't know what to do about that. 486 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 1: I hope I can teach my kids to not think, Okay, 487 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: you got a nice car you wanted, you got a 488 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: house you wanted, you got the things you wanted, but 489 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: that guy across town has more. I'm not happy yet 490 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: if he had less, Oh that would be so nice. 491 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 2: Geez, want to rest a for misery? That's human beings. 492 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:03,640 Speaker 2: That's human beings. 493 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:05,880 Speaker 1: Sure, or we should be able to be talked out 494 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 1: of that. I'm a human being and that's not the 495 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: way I look at it. 496 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 3: Well, right, Yeah, I agree with you, But I think 497 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:15,360 Speaker 3: our ancient mechanisms for figuring out if something a situation 498 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 3: is fair, getting back to the beginning of the discussion, 499 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 3: has to do with you know, we're all in a tribe, 500 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,120 Speaker 3: we're all working. If you don't work, you gets thrown 501 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 3: out of the tribe or killed or whatever. And so 502 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 3: if Johnny ends up with four pounds of buffalo meat 503 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 3: and I've got two pounds and we've all been working 504 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 3: as hard, that's unfair. And I think maybe that ancient 505 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:44,360 Speaker 3: because I'm you know, I love kicking people for being dopey, 506 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 3: but there's part of me that also is interested in 507 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,360 Speaker 3: since it's so widespread, obviously it's very common. 508 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: So where does that come from? And I think it 509 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: is that human. 510 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,679 Speaker 3: Beings are not built to live in the modern world. 511 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 3: The model world is a half a blink of an 512 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 3: eye in you know, the span of the one of 513 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 3: the Like, what are those tortoises that live one hundred 514 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 3: and thirty years the modern world? 515 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 2: We are not adapted to it yet at all. 516 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, yeah, I get it, that's human nature. But 517 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 1: my point is you should be able to talk somebody 518 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 1: out of that by the time they're a teenager and 519 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,719 Speaker 1: then they get over it. But it is why, uh, 520 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: it's so easy to sell socialism and so much harder 521 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: to sell the free market. 522 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:29,360 Speaker 2: Ye, because it requires some. 523 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 1: Explanation, not a lot of explanation with socialism. With socialism, 524 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: everybody would have the equal amount. And like you said, 525 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 1: we're built to think, oh that'd be awesome. 526 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 3: Well all have the same amount fantom good Speaking of DEI, yeah, 527 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,360 Speaker 3: we'll all have the same amount miser but misery. We'll 528 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 3: have lots and lots of misery except for the fat 529 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,239 Speaker 3: cats who control it all. That's funny. Didn't see that 530 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 3: coming anyway. Speaking of that sort of thing, DEI and 531 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,880 Speaker 3: the damage it did to the United States military, it's 532 00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 3: it's worse than I thought, a material damage to our 533 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 3: war fighting capabilities. 534 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 2: Have that for you in a moment. 535 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 1: I want to talk later about maybe I should see 536 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:09,959 Speaker 1: a doctor about this sensory issues. I want to know 537 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 1: why I'm willing to go through the entire day with 538 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: one shoe tied way too tight and being uncomfortable because 539 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,160 Speaker 1: of it. Before I can recognize it. 540 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 3: I can't even imagine that plus was disclosed a few 541 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 3: days ago. You've been wearing the wrong size shoes quote unquote. 542 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 2: For a very long time. Oh yeah, I did that 543 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 2: until I was fifty something. 544 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,400 Speaker 1: Somebody actually texted us about that and said, you moron. 545 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: You mentioned in twenty nineteen, so you were whatever age. 546 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 1: I like to like the fact this so people keep 547 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 1: closer track of when I do things and say things 548 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 1: than I do. Anyway, we got that DEI stuff on 549 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 1: the way, and a whole bunch of other things. 550 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,400 Speaker 2: Hope you can stay here. 551 00:27:55,560 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 1: Two decades Steeler coach Tomlin out in Pittsburgh, So now 552 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 1: nine teams are looking for a new head coach, almost 553 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:07,400 Speaker 1: a third of all the NFL teams. 554 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 2: That's him. Yeah, absolutely crazy. 555 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 3: Speaking of crazy, we spend a lot of time an 556 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,640 Speaker 3: hour one of the show talking about the oral arguments 557 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 3: in front of the Supreme Court about the gender benning 558 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 3: madness trans boys playing in girls' sports, and it. 559 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,719 Speaker 2: Was pretty damn good, frankly, but we're going to revisit. 560 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 3: The topic and stretch out a little more talk about 561 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 3: the Supreme Court with our favorite legal analyst on a stage, 562 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,400 Speaker 3: Boden from the Pacific Legal Foundation. 563 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,880 Speaker 2: Is that right, Yeah, that's where she's from. Anyway. 564 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 3: That's next hour so join us or stay with us, 565 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 3: or grab it via podcast if you can. So totally 566 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 3: different topic, there's a new book out called The Lost 567 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 3: Generation that Jacob Savage is the author. He describes how 568 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 3: US media and academia in the twenty tens closed the 569 00:28:55,160 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 3: doors to millennial white men and the DEI thing was 570 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 3: so evil in academia and media, but it also infected 571 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 3: the US Armed Forces, and under President Biden, senior officers 572 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 3: worked to make our military less white. That precipitated a 573 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 3: recruitment crisis, which you're not going to hear about much 574 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 3: from the media, obviously, But during Trump's first administration, lethality 575 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 3: was the military's focus. 576 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 2: Obviously, that changed. 577 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 1: In twenty twenty one, mister Biden issued in an executive 578 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 1: order I'll bet you remember this, embedding quote diversity, equity, inclusion, 579 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: and accessibility across all parts of the federal workforce, and 580 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 1: then Defense Secretaryary Lloyd Austin took the unprecedented step of 581 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: ordering a stand down to combat quote unquote extremism in 582 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: the armed forces. By the time the independent report commissioned 583 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 1: by the Pentagon found that these concerns were baseless, they'd 584 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 1: already formed the ideological permission structure, as they call it, 585 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 1: for the DEI crusade. So in twenty twenty two, you 586 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: remember General C. Q. Brown, who was later promoted Chairman 587 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. He was the black guy, 588 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 1: the Air Force guy. He issued a memorandum that set 589 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 1: numerical quotas for everyone from white males to Pacific Islander 590 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 1: females among commissioned officer applicants to the Air Force, which 591 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 1: is obscene, racist and non American racial discrimination likewise distorted. 592 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 1: What a great way to build the most lethal fighting 593 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 1: force on the planet, do it by racial quotas. 594 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 2: That's suicidal. 595 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 3: Racial discrimination likewise distorted admissions to the US Naval Academy. 596 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 3: For instance, black applicants scoring in the fourth decile, meaning 597 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,959 Speaker 3: forty percenters had an admission rate higher than that of 598 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 3: whites in the eighth decile. And uh, god, well, and 599 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 3: the media isn't. I'm sorry, the military isn't the media. 600 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 3: It requires young people to sign up for unglamorous and 601 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 3: sometimes dangerous jobs far from home. By signaling that white 602 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 3: men were left welcome, DEI initiatives pushed thousands of them 603 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 3: away from military service, and between twenty thirteen and twenty 604 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 3: twenty three, Annual mail enlistments in the army fell thirty 605 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 3: five percent from twenty eighteen to twenty twenty three. The 606 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 3: number of white army recruits dropped from forty four thousand 607 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 3: to twenty five thousand. No other group saw such steep declines. Meanwhile, 608 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 3: the share of white high school boys who in Monitoring 609 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 3: the Future said a survey said the military is doing 610 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 3: a good or very good job declined from seventy six 611 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 3: percent to fifty seven percent in ten years. 612 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 2: Well, if you were aware of this at all, like 613 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 2: as a parent or. 614 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: A kid, you would think, well, and you're white, you'd think, well, 615 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 1: now's not the time for me to go into the military. 616 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: I'm you know, I'm never going to get anywhere, and 617 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 1: they've made it that is horrifying. 618 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, it absolutely is. 619 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 3: You know the thing about DEI, and I hope this 620 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 3: is clear to everybody at this point, is you know, 621 00:31:56,040 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 3: I've often said diversity is it means more Marxists, Equity 622 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 3: is Marxism, and inclusion means including more Marxists. Have you 623 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 3: ever noticed that the diversity well they couchy this, we 624 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 3: need more black people. But it's always progressive black people. 625 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 3: It's never a conservative black man or a woman or 626 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 3: conservative Hispanic person. 627 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 2: It's always Marxists. 628 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 1: And the inclusion never includes anybody who has even a 629 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 1: slightly conservative bent. It's because that's not what they're doing. 630 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 2: It's a lie. It's canard and every DEI. 631 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 1: Program everywhere it exists in government, in media, in education, 632 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 1: in the private sector today by the end of business, 633 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 1: by close of business as they say, thank you for 634 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 1: your attention to this matter. God, I wish there could 635 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 1: be some sort of a law, maybe Congress to do this. 636 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: We don't do any of these cultural experiments on the military. 637 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 1: Military is separate from you want to try this stuff 638 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 1: in school. I don't like it anywhere. But if you 639 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 1: want to try this stuff in schools or the workplace, 640 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 1: or your sports team or whatever the hell you want 641 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 1: to do, but you don't get to touch the military 642 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: with these various experiments in crafting. 643 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 2: Utopia right because it's too important. 644 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 3: It reminds me of a couple of other things we've 645 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 3: talked about, like should boys be allowed to compete in girls' sports? 646 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 3: Ask that question a dozen years ago, people are like, 647 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 3: why are you asking me that? 648 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 1: What are we even talking about here, of course, not 649 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 1: the idea that should we conduct weird sociological experiments that 650 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 1: may compromise our fighting ability in the military. People would 651 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 1: be like, of course, not, why would you even ask 652 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 1: me that question? A pretty short time ago in our history. God, 653 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 1: I don't care if the military is ninety five percent 654 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 1: Hispanic or all black or whatever you end up with. 655 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 1: Just have the best people in the important positions. God, 656 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 1: dang it you think the Chinese. 657 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 2: Are worried about it. 658 00:33:55,000 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 3: My final bit of evidence, female recruitment is up in 659 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 3: twenty twenty five. 660 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 2: Encouragement to a list increased. 661 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 3: Among Blacks, Hispanics, and women under fifty five. 662 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. 663 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 1: It's up among everybody because the DEI thing doesn't serve 664 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,359 Speaker 1: black people, it doesn't serve as Hispanic people, it doesn't 665 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 1: serve anybody but Marxists. Actually, there's a story about law 666 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 1: school admissions are getting much and much less racial quota E. 667 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 1: And the fascinating part of it is a lot of 668 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 1: it is people of color saying I wouldn't be happy 669 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,240 Speaker 1: at that crazy super late school. 670 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:35,320 Speaker 2: I just I don't have the chops. 671 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 3: How I go to this mid level school, find my 672 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:42,239 Speaker 3: level and excel there and learn at a pace that 673 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:46,959 Speaker 3: I can handle their self selecting away from affirmative action 674 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:47,879 Speaker 3: because they. 675 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,400 Speaker 2: Know what a bad idea it is. I'm telling you, 676 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 2: the woke thing is just it's a disease. Yeah. 677 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:55,799 Speaker 1: Well, the woke thing is a lot of what the 678 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 1: Supreme Court was hearing about yesterday and their oral arguments 679 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 1: around the whole trans athlete issue, which we'll get into 680 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,879 Speaker 1: a lot in an hour four. Again, if you miss 681 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 1: the segment or can't get the hour, look for our 682 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 1: podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand. 683 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,359 Speaker 3: You should subscribe. Yeah, and give us a glowing five 684 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,760 Speaker 3: star review. It helps with the algorithms. 685 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 2: What if people don't like it that much? Shut up? 686 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,399 Speaker 3: Mind your own business. Supposed to give a five star 687 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 3: review if you thought it was mediocre, I just don't 688 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,359 Speaker 3: give a review at all. Forget I said anything. Mind 689 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 3: your own business. 690 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 2: Shut up anyway, See you then, Armstrong and Getty