WEBVTT - The Big Tech Stories of 2022: The Crypto Winter

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to text, a production from I Heart Radio. Hey there,

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<v Speaker 1>and welcome to tech Stuff. I'm your host, Jonathan Strickland.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm an executive producer with I Heart Radio and how

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<v Speaker 1>the tech are you? So we're continuing to look back

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<v Speaker 1>on the big tech news stories of two as we

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<v Speaker 1>round out the year. And of course you'll already know

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<v Speaker 1>what this episode covers, because I'm sure I titled it

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<v Speaker 1>in a way that reveals it. But just in case,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought I would try my hand at a little theater.

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<v Speaker 1>Now is the winter of our crypto coin, made even

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<v Speaker 1>worse by Sam Bankman freed, and all the doubts that

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<v Speaker 1>lowered upon n f T s now cross the blockchain

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<v Speaker 1>entire are laid. Now are our wallets, but home for

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<v Speaker 1>moths are sub bredits filled with bros calling hoddle our

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<v Speaker 1>stern skeptics, doth say, I told e thus, dreadful partners,

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<v Speaker 1>asking where the hell is our money? Okay, my apologies

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<v Speaker 1>to you and to a certain master Shakespeare, But honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I doubt I'm ever going to have the opportunity to

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<v Speaker 1>play Richard the third, And so that's the best I

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<v Speaker 1>will ever hope for. And yes, this episode we are

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<v Speaker 1>going to cover some of the big stories that revolved

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<v Speaker 1>around cryptocurrency in two and there is a lot to

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<v Speaker 1>go over, from crypto in general declining and value over

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<v Speaker 1>the year, to some cryptocurrencies making a big important change

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<v Speaker 1>in how they operate, to the infamous collapse of the

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<v Speaker 1>ft X crypto exchange, to related stuff like blockchain and

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<v Speaker 1>web three hype. You don't very much web three hype

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<v Speaker 1>right now? Huh, Well, we'll talk about why, but let's

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<v Speaker 1>get to it now. First up, I think it's important

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<v Speaker 1>to do a quick refresher on cryptocurrency. It's a term

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<v Speaker 1>that is used a lot often without very much explanation

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<v Speaker 1>as to what goes into cryptocurrency. People just think, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a digital form of money, and so I think

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<v Speaker 1>we need to have a little bit of groundwork laid now.

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<v Speaker 1>The whole trend began thanks to a white paper that

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<v Speaker 1>proposed a blockchain, a shared ledger, and a digital currency

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<v Speaker 1>called bitcoin. Now, unlike other currencies, bitcoin wouldn't be dependent

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<v Speaker 1>upon a country's government or some central financial institution. It

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<v Speaker 1>would be a decentralized digital currency. Participants in the system

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<v Speaker 1>could even earn rewards by helping to verify bitcoin transactions.

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<v Speaker 1>So each transaction would join others and they would form

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<v Speaker 1>a block, and each block would be laid in front

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<v Speaker 1>of the last block in a chain of blocks. Thus

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<v Speaker 1>the block chain. The values represented within a block would

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<v Speaker 1>depend upon all the blocks that came before it. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>this would mean that no one would be able to

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<v Speaker 1>go back to earlier transactions and alter one of them,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like in an effort to say return some

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<v Speaker 1>bitcoins they had they had spent. Let's say that you

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<v Speaker 1>had five bitcoins, you spent four of them, and then

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<v Speaker 1>later on you thought, I need more money. So what

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<v Speaker 1>if I just go in and erase that transaction and

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<v Speaker 1>magically give myself back the four bitcoins that I had spent.

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<v Speaker 1>That way, I could double spend the same bitcoins. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>if you did that, if you went back into the

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<v Speaker 1>blockchain and you changed that transaction, if you found a

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<v Speaker 1>way to do it, that would actually change all the

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<v Speaker 1>values of the blocks that came after it. And that

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<v Speaker 1>means everyone would know that you try to be very

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<v Speaker 1>very naughty. Now, there are a few different ways to

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<v Speaker 1>verify transactions and to award cryptocurrency units. The way Bitcoin

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<v Speaker 1>does it is called proof of work. Now we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to be super high level with this. But in this method,

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<v Speaker 1>computers in the system are essentially competing against each other

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<v Speaker 1>in order to solve a math problem. Or really it's

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<v Speaker 1>about guessing the right number, and it should take about

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<v Speaker 1>ten minutes to get the right answer on average. But

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<v Speaker 1>if computers start to take longer to answer it because

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<v Speaker 1>the problems are really hard, well, the system actually adjusts

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<v Speaker 1>to make those problems easier to get closer to that

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<v Speaker 1>ten minute benchmark. If it starts taking less time. If

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<v Speaker 1>systems are solving the problem earlier, well, then the system

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<v Speaker 1>makes the problems harder to solve. Now, a downside to

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<v Speaker 1>this approach is that as the currency increases in value,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a greater incentive for people to try and earn

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<v Speaker 1>the cryptocurrency by verifying these transactions. This is called mining.

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<v Speaker 1>So these people start pouring more money into their computer

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<v Speaker 1>systems so that they have more computer power to dedicate

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<v Speaker 1>to this, and they get an edge on all the

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<v Speaker 1>other competitors in the system. If the value keeps going up,

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<v Speaker 1>this becomes an escalating war between the various mining operations.

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<v Speaker 1>So with Bitcoin, the value at the beginning of two

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<v Speaker 1>was nearly forty eight thousand dollars per bitcoin, and each

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<v Speaker 1>time you verified a block of transactions, which again was

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<v Speaker 1>every ten minutes, you would get six point to five

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<v Speaker 1>bitcoins as a reward if you were the system that

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<v Speaker 1>got the problem right first, so that would be worth

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<v Speaker 1>around three hundred thousand dollars at the beginning of two,

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<v Speaker 1>and you would have a chance to do it all

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<v Speaker 1>over again in just ten minutes. So if you managed

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<v Speaker 1>to be the winning computer system for every single block

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<v Speaker 1>in a in a single day, you would end up

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<v Speaker 1>solving around one hundred forty four blocks at that point,

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<v Speaker 1>that would be nine d bitcoins, which would be worth

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<v Speaker 1>around forty three million, two hundred thousand dollars in US

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<v Speaker 1>dollars at the beginning of January two. That's a huge

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<v Speaker 1>amount of money right now. It would not be likely

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<v Speaker 1>for you to be able to do that. Chances are

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<v Speaker 1>other systems would be solving some of these throughout the day,

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<v Speaker 1>but even if you only needed a few, that's still

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<v Speaker 1>a huge amount of money. So it was no wonder

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<v Speaker 1>that there were entire massive networks dedicated to bitcoin mining.

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<v Speaker 1>Folks were taking over decommissioned power plants and then firing

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<v Speaker 1>them back up in order to provide the electricity needed

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<v Speaker 1>to power these customized mining systems that were designed to

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<v Speaker 1>beat out all the other competition. Bitcoin mining was creating

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<v Speaker 1>a strain on power grids. It was actually responsible for

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<v Speaker 1>more electricity usage than some countries create in an entire year,

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<v Speaker 1>which is just wild. But that's just the basics, right,

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<v Speaker 1>That's for the basics for bitcoin, and we will talk

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<v Speaker 1>about an alternative to proof of work later on in

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<v Speaker 1>this episode, but first, let's talk about an early setback

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<v Speaker 1>that happened for cryptocurrency sort of, and that would be

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<v Speaker 1>when Meta a k a. Facebook because that's what it

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<v Speaker 1>was called when it first came up with this plan

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<v Speaker 1>ended up ditching its plans for its own cryptocurrency. So

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<v Speaker 1>some backstory. Back in two thousand nineteen, Facebook, which was

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<v Speaker 1>not yet known as Meta because it adopted that name

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<v Speaker 1>in late announced that it was developing a cryptocurrency that

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<v Speaker 1>at that time was called liber up Now. Instantly, governments

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<v Speaker 1>and regulators around the world started to express concern that

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<v Speaker 1>such an influential tech company was essentially looking into ways

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<v Speaker 1>to print its own money. Even some crypto enthusiasts got

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<v Speaker 1>a little worried as Facebook's approach didn't really follow that

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<v Speaker 1>decentralized path that coins like bitcoin purported to follow, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you would have a centralized authority in the form of

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook or the association that Facebook would create. Now, Facebook

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<v Speaker 1>did not intend to be the soul core of Libra. Instead,

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook created a consortium and association, the Libra Association, a

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<v Speaker 1>group of companies that would serve as sort of the

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<v Speaker 1>custodians of this digital currency. And unlike coins such as bitcoin,

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<v Speaker 1>the average person would not be involved in verifying blocks

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<v Speaker 1>of transactions. You wouldn't have these groups of digital miners

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<v Speaker 1>building massive computer systems trying to beat each other out

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<v Speaker 1>to verify. Instead, the consortium would handle it. So you

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<v Speaker 1>had this against centralized authority in that sense. Now, Facebook

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<v Speaker 1>ended up creating a division called Calibra, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>dedicated to creating digital wallets that Facebook users would be

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<v Speaker 1>able to link to their Facebook accounts, and other members

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<v Speaker 1>of the consortium would also be able to make Libra

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<v Speaker 1>compatible digital wallets. But Facebook had a bad reputation already

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand nineteen. It would only get worse in

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<v Speaker 1>and it hasn't exactly gotten better this year. So this

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<v Speaker 1>was a company known for not doing enough to keep

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<v Speaker 1>illegal content off its own platform. Governments, particularly the US government,

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<v Speaker 1>were understandably concerned that a company that had shown such

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<v Speaker 1>reluctance or incompetence take your pick when dealing with harmful

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<v Speaker 1>content now wanted to create its own currency. There were

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<v Speaker 1>multiple hearings to hold Facebook accountable to following laws and

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<v Speaker 1>creating safety measures that financial institutions have to have, right,

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<v Speaker 1>so they're essentially saying, hey, we require all the official

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<v Speaker 1>currency institutions in this country to follow these rules. You

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<v Speaker 1>will be expected to do the same. So now we

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<v Speaker 1>have to start making sure that you have the systems

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<v Speaker 1>in place to do that now. Towards the end of

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<v Speaker 1>Libra got a name change. It changed to d M,

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<v Speaker 1>partly to distance itself from Libra because Facebook's reputation was

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<v Speaker 1>getting uglier by the day. Facebook would follow this same

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<v Speaker 1>strategy in late one, that's when it changed its corporate

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<v Speaker 1>name to Meta, and then by early two the project

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<v Speaker 1>was pretty much dead in the water. There were a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of internal discussions and disagreements with the direction of

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<v Speaker 1>the currency company. After company dropped out of the Libra association,

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<v Speaker 1>and the opposing regulation authorities really had killed all momentum.

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<v Speaker 1>So without fanfare, Facebook dissolved the liber Association and it

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<v Speaker 1>sold off the i P connected to Libra slash d

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<v Speaker 1>M for about a d eighty million dollars, and Facebook's

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<v Speaker 1>attempt at making a cryptocurrency would fade into history. All right, Now,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about bitcoins declining value. So back in, Bitcoin

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<v Speaker 1>hits some truly monumental highs. It flirted with nearly seventy

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars per bitcoin at one point, but by late

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<v Speaker 1>January two it had dipped into the thirty five thousand

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<v Speaker 1>dollar territory, so it had lost nearly half its value

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<v Speaker 1>in about half a year. Now, the coin rallied a

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<v Speaker 1>bit in the spring of two early in the spring,

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<v Speaker 1>but by April things started to slope downhill, and the

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<v Speaker 1>currency gradually followed the performance of the stock market. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I have long maintained that bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies aren't

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<v Speaker 1>really currencies. They're really more like commodities or investments, at

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<v Speaker 1>least that's how most people treat them. So it isn't

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<v Speaker 1>a big surprise that as people started to lose faith

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<v Speaker 1>in the stock market and that that started to suffer,

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<v Speaker 1>that we saw something similar happen in the cryptocurrency world. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>today the value of bitcoin is around sixteen eight hundred

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<v Speaker 1>dollars as a record. This that's still a lot of money,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. It still means that if you mind a

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<v Speaker 1>block on the Bitcoin blockchain, you would be awarded the

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<v Speaker 1>equivalent of a hundred five thousand dollars worth of bitcoin.

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<v Speaker 1>That's nothing to sneeze at. That's a lot of money,

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<v Speaker 1>but it is not the massive amount that you can

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<v Speaker 1>make back when bitcoin was at its height in one

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<v Speaker 1>let alone at early two And that has meant that

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<v Speaker 1>mining operations have really scaled back because the money coming

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<v Speaker 1>in from mining has declined, but the cost of operations hasn't. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So as the money you bring in decreases but your

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<v Speaker 1>costs stay the same, it gets harder and harder to

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<v Speaker 1>cover those costs and eventually get to a point where

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<v Speaker 1>it could actually cost you more money to run your

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<v Speaker 1>computer systems. Then you will earn out of mining even

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<v Speaker 1>if you are really successful. So for the moment, the

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<v Speaker 1>runaway race to have the biggest, most powerful computer network

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<v Speaker 1>on the blockchain has taken a little break. You would

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<v Speaker 1>actually lose your shirt if you tried to follow that philosophy. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>also I should add there were some truly wild predictions

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<v Speaker 1>for what Bitcoin's value was going to be by the

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<v Speaker 1>end of this year before you know, all of two happened,

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<v Speaker 1>And to be fair, a lot did happen that people

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<v Speaker 1>just didn't foresee. For example, Russia invading Ukraine. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>talk about that in a future episode in this series.

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<v Speaker 1>But one of the effects that had was a massive

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<v Speaker 1>economic impact throughout the entire world. Well, no one foresaw

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<v Speaker 1>that when they were making uh predictions. And keep in

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<v Speaker 1>mind in bitcoin really did look like it was going

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<v Speaker 1>to the moon. Well one venture capitalist, Tim Draper, famous

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<v Speaker 1>venture capitalist, previously predicted that bitcoin was going to reach

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<v Speaker 1>an astounding two hundred fifty thousand dollars per coin by

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<v Speaker 1>the end of this year. A quarter of a million

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<v Speaker 1>dollars per coin. Now, obviously that didn't happen. Instead, like

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<v Speaker 1>I said, bitcoins hovering below seventeen thousand dollars as I

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<v Speaker 1>record this. But even as late as October of two,

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<v Speaker 1>analysts were guessing that was gonna end the year around

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two thousand dollars per coin. Unless we see some

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<v Speaker 1>pretty dramatic surges and value in the next ten days

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<v Speaker 1>or so, that's just not gonna happen. Now, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>a financial expert, so it's possible it will happen, but

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<v Speaker 1>I will not be surpri eyes if it's closer to

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<v Speaker 1>between sixteen to eighteen thousand dollars per coin. Even if

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<v Speaker 1>it dropped a little below sixteen, I wouldn't be super surprised. Now, Draper,

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<v Speaker 1>for what it's worth, says that he now thinks that

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<v Speaker 1>bitcoin will hit two d fifty dollars. Is just going

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<v Speaker 1>to take until the middle of next year for that

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<v Speaker 1>to happen. But then there are also doomsday cults that

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<v Speaker 1>when the world continues to exist past it's predicted to

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<v Speaker 1>doomsday deadline, they just moved the deadline back a bit.

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<v Speaker 1>This feels kind of similar to that to me. But

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<v Speaker 1>then again, Draper is a very very rich man and

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<v Speaker 1>I am not. So maybe my doubts are unfounded and

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<v Speaker 1>I just can't see the way he can. We'll have

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<v Speaker 1>to wait until June and next year, I will say.

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<v Speaker 1>There are other investors like Mark Mobius who have had

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<v Speaker 1>a much more cynical outlook and think that bitcoin could

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<v Speaker 1>fall as low as ten thousand dollars a pop by

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<v Speaker 1>next year. Also, Mark Mobius is a great name Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we've got a lot more to cover about cryptocurrencies in two,

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<v Speaker 1>but before we do that, let's take a quick break.

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<v Speaker 1>We're back now. Some cryptocurrencies are linked to fiat currency

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<v Speaker 1>or other real world assets. So the idea is that

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<v Speaker 1>these coins will maintain a more consistent value because they

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<v Speaker 1>are tied to things that have other ties that guarantee

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<v Speaker 1>their consistency, and we call these stable coins. There are

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<v Speaker 1>other cryptocurrencies that aren't linked to such things, and they

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<v Speaker 1>aren't linked to each other, at least not directly. However,

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<v Speaker 1>when one coin, especially a really influential one, starts to

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<v Speaker 1>go down in value, then you start to see other

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<v Speaker 1>coins follow suit. This is pretty common, so when Bitcoin

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<v Speaker 1>goes down, often you'll see other coins that are not

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<v Speaker 1>directly tied to Bitcoin go down to Now, maybe investors

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<v Speaker 1>are getting cold feet and they're losing confidence overall in cryptocurrency.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's more of a reflection of the overall economy

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<v Speaker 1>and its movement. It's probably a combination of tons of factors,

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<v Speaker 1>but it means that two was a year where you'd

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<v Speaker 1>see various crypto values decrease, though most didn't have nearly

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<v Speaker 1>as far to fall as Bitcoin did. Let's talk about

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<v Speaker 1>a coin that made a long awaited change this year,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm talking about Ethereum. Now, Ethereum is one of

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<v Speaker 1>the more popular and well known cryptocurrencies that doesn't happen

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<v Speaker 1>to be Bitcoin. It has always felt a bit more

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<v Speaker 1>accessible to the common investor. Back in early twenty while

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<v Speaker 1>bitcoins were worth like seven thousand dollars a pop, ethereum

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<v Speaker 1>was trading closer to a hundred thirty dollars. But by

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<v Speaker 1>the end of twenty ethereum was trading it around six

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<v Speaker 1>hundred dollars each and then in early twenty twenty one

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<v Speaker 1>it went up twice as high and it just kept

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<v Speaker 1>on climbing for a good long while. Now you may

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<v Speaker 1>have heard that cryptocurrency mining had a really big impact

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<v Speaker 1>on things like the graphics card market, and that is

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<v Speaker 1>true now for Bitcoin. The value of the currency had

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<v Speaker 1>grown so much that someone running even a network of

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<v Speaker 1>computers with screaming fast graphics cards just would not be

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<v Speaker 1>able to compete because other miners with deeper pockets had

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<v Speaker 1>moved on to purpose built circuits such as applications specific

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<v Speaker 1>integrated circuits or a s i C. But for cryptocurrencies

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<v Speaker 1>that weren't up to these astronomic values that Bitcoin was enjoying,

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<v Speaker 1>Miners were relying on computers with just powerful graphics processors

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<v Speaker 1>because that still made economic sense, and so Ethereum miners

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<v Speaker 1>were scooping up the best graphics cards really quickly, and

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<v Speaker 1>then they would either sell older ones or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>used ones at really high prices on the secondary market,

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<v Speaker 1>and gamers were faced with very few options when they

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<v Speaker 1>were trying to build out their gaming rigs. They couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>easily get new cards because miners or people who were

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<v Speaker 1>selling the cards to miners were gobbling them up, or

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<v Speaker 1>else they would have to pay a ridiculous premium on

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<v Speaker 1>top of the already high cost of these cards, like

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes well over twice as much as what they were

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<v Speaker 1>originally going to be sold at. But Ethereum was preparing

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<v Speaker 1>to switch how it awarded cryptocurrency. So it had been

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<v Speaker 1>operating on a proof of work system just like Bitcoin,

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<v Speaker 1>although it was it worked much faster than bitcoins ten

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<v Speaker 1>minutes per block, but it was instead going to make

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<v Speaker 1>a shift to something called proof of steak. So with

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<v Speaker 1>a proof of steak that's s T a k E.

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<v Speaker 1>With that kind of system, participants have to put up

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<v Speaker 1>a share of their own cryptocurrency holdings, that is the steak.

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<v Speaker 1>The system decides which stakeholder gets awarded new units of

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<v Speaker 1>cryptocurrency at the end of each block's verification, so this

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<v Speaker 1>system does not require the same massive amounts of computer

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<v Speaker 1>work that a proof of work system requires, and as

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<v Speaker 1>a consequence, we saw GPUs become more available and less

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<v Speaker 1>expensive because miners didn't need them anymore. So it took

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of time, but gradually things settled down,

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of former ethereum miners also had to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out if they were going to switch to mining

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<v Speaker 1>some other proof of work cryptocurrency, potentially at a much

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<v Speaker 1>lower value, which could mean that you know, your costs

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<v Speaker 1>eat into any profits you make, or if they were

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<v Speaker 1>just going to sell off their old gear. So a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of them chose to sell stuff off. Now, if

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<v Speaker 1>you are in the market for a GPU, personally, I

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<v Speaker 1>would recommend against buying a used mining rig. You might

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<v Speaker 1>get a top card from the previous generation of cards,

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<v Speaker 1>like the already eighty generation, but it will have been

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<v Speaker 1>used hard and these cards can and do burnout over time.

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<v Speaker 1>Plus they have moving parts like a lot of these

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<v Speaker 1>cards have their own cooling fans built into them, and

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<v Speaker 1>those are also going to get worn down. So personally,

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<v Speaker 1>I would suggest you don't go for a used GPU,

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<v Speaker 1>especially if you know it was used in a mining rig,

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<v Speaker 1>because you probably want a card that's gonna last you

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<v Speaker 1>for a good long while, and those just aren't guaranteed

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<v Speaker 1>to do that anyway. The proof of Steak branch of

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<v Speaker 1>Ethereum actually launched a couple of years ago, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of almost like an a beta program, and

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't until this September September two that the proof

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<v Speaker 1>of work branch of Ethereum would merge with the proof

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<v Speaker 1>of Steak branch and the whole thing would become proof

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<v Speaker 1>of Steak. So again, this event is called the merge

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<v Speaker 1>capital m So the GPU stuff is fairly recent news.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been pretty recent that you could actually get hold

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<v Speaker 1>of GPUs and pretty much at the manufactured suggested retail price,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a nice change of pace. Now. At its peak,

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<v Speaker 1>Etherory was worth more than four thousand, six hundred dollars

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<v Speaker 1>a coin. Now that was in November of Today, Ethereum's

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<v Speaker 1>value is closer to twelve hundred dollars per coin, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's still nearly ten times more valuable than it was

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning of So I don't want to make it

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<v Speaker 1>sound like Ethereum is like crashing and burning. It's still

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<v Speaker 1>way better than it was just two years ago, but

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<v Speaker 1>like Bitcoin and so many other cryptocurrencies, and has lost

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<v Speaker 1>a ton of value over the last year. And again,

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<v Speaker 1>that loss of value is a very complex issue. It

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<v Speaker 1>is tempting for me to say that people are generally

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<v Speaker 1>losing faith in cryptocurrency, and since the currency depends largely

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<v Speaker 1>upon people believing and then behaving as if it in

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<v Speaker 1>fact has value, well if they stopped believing, the value

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<v Speaker 1>goes away. But honestly, that's just not true, or at

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<v Speaker 1>least it's not the whole truth. Yes, many cryptocurrencies are

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<v Speaker 1>based on little more than how investors and miners and

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<v Speaker 1>participants are treating it, but external economic factors are also

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<v Speaker 1>at play, and ignoring that just means you're being dishonest. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we started to get a feel for how

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<v Speaker 1>rough two was really going to be for cryptocurrencies back

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<v Speaker 1>in mid spring of this year. One early indication that

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<v Speaker 1>things were headed south was the collapse of a crypto

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<v Speaker 1>firm called Three Arrows Capital. So this company was based

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<v Speaker 1>out of Singapore at least until very recently when it

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<v Speaker 1>moved to Dubai before it imploded. And Three Arrows Capital

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<v Speaker 1>a k A. Three a C was a hedge fund

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<v Speaker 1>specializing an investment in cryptocurrencies, and it had been around

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<v Speaker 1>for a decade, so this was not some brand new company.

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<v Speaker 1>It had, you know, been around for ten years. But

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<v Speaker 1>by the spring of two the company had a billion

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<v Speaker 1>dollars in assets. That's impressive, but it also had more

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<v Speaker 1>than three billion dollars in debts. Oh. Now, as cryptocurrencies

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<v Speaker 1>began to decline in value, three a C was starting

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<v Speaker 1>to feel the pinch, but that pinch became crushing when

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of crypto coins collapsed. Those coins were Terra

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<v Speaker 1>U S D that's T E R R A so

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<v Speaker 1>Terra USD, which was shortened to just U S T

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<v Speaker 1>as its acronym or initialism, and then there was Luna,

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<v Speaker 1>and both of these called the Terra blockchain their home.

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<v Speaker 1>So Terra USD was supposed to be a stable coin

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<v Speaker 1>tied to the U S dollar through a very complicated

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<v Speaker 1>relationship with Luna, but in May two that complicated relationship

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<v Speaker 1>unraveled rapidly, and so the U S T coin, the

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<v Speaker 1>became unpegged to the US dollar. It no longer was

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<v Speaker 1>tied to the dollars value, and its value collapsed to

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<v Speaker 1>just ten cents per coin. The value of Luna dropped

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<v Speaker 1>to almost nothing. We're talking fractions of a penny, like

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<v Speaker 1>point zero zero zero zero some sense. Well, Three Arrow

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<v Speaker 1>Capital had unfortunately invested very heavily in Luna, so when

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<v Speaker 1>suddenly all that value just went away, it tore the

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<v Speaker 1>foundations out from underneath three A C. The company spiraled

0:25:35.240 --> 0:25:39.040
<v Speaker 1>into bankruptcy. The collapse of UST and Luna wiped out

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<v Speaker 1>more than forty billion dollars in investor wealth. I think

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen estimates between forty two and forty five billion dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>and when your estimates have a range of three billion,

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<v Speaker 1>things are bad now. It also tied off another stable

0:25:55.160 --> 0:25:58.760
<v Speaker 1>coin going into a crisis. That one was d e

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<v Speaker 1>I briefly got unpegged from the U. S dollar as

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<v Speaker 1>well and plunged in value by thirty percent, which really

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<v Speaker 1>made things worse. And you can look at the U

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<v Speaker 1>S T and Luna collapses as kind of the first

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<v Speaker 1>domino to set off a chain reaction in the crypto world.

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<v Speaker 1>In general, it caused three A C to implode, and

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<v Speaker 1>three A C happened to owe a lot of money

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<v Speaker 1>to a crypto lending company called Voyager Digital based on

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<v Speaker 1>New Jersey. So three A C was taking loans from

0:26:30.920 --> 0:26:34.959
<v Speaker 1>Voyager Digital in order to fund its various investments. So

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<v Speaker 1>when all of that collapsed, Voyager Digital was left holding

0:26:37.760 --> 0:26:40.080
<v Speaker 1>the bag. So when three A C went under, it

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<v Speaker 1>could not pay the money it owed to Voyager Digital,

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<v Speaker 1>and it defaulted on the loan and Voyager Digital in

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<v Speaker 1>turn was over extended, so it also began to spiral

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<v Speaker 1>into bankruptcy. Now, the hope for Voyager was to get

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<v Speaker 1>through bankruptcy, to manage its debts and its creditors, and

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<v Speaker 1>to eventually get throw own a lifeline by a different

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<v Speaker 1>crypto company. That company was drum roll please f t X.

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<v Speaker 1>We will talk about f t X more in a

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<v Speaker 1>bit in this episode. So the U, S T and

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<v Speaker 1>Luna collapse also undermined another crypto firm, another crypto lender

0:27:20.400 --> 0:27:24.760
<v Speaker 1>in fact, called Celsius Network. The company also entered into

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<v Speaker 1>bankruptcy in July of the bankruptcy courts were really busy

0:27:29.240 --> 0:27:33.040
<v Speaker 1>with cryptocurrency in July of this past year, so in

0:27:33.080 --> 0:27:36.359
<v Speaker 1>that bankruptcy process, there were some questions that were popping

0:27:36.440 --> 0:27:39.439
<v Speaker 1>up about how Celsius had been run as a company.

0:27:39.640 --> 0:27:41.840
<v Speaker 1>In fact, we're seeing lots of questions about lots of

0:27:41.880 --> 0:27:44.479
<v Speaker 1>crypto firms, because it turns out many of them were

0:27:44.560 --> 0:27:50.760
<v Speaker 1>run at least incompetently, if not outright unethically or badly.

0:27:51.880 --> 0:27:55.600
<v Speaker 1>So with Celsius, there have been allegations of fraud. There

0:27:55.600 --> 0:27:57.919
<v Speaker 1>have been some issues about how some customers may have

0:27:58.000 --> 0:28:02.280
<v Speaker 1>received preferential treatment over others, and the judge overseeing the

0:28:02.280 --> 0:28:06.919
<v Speaker 1>bankruptcy case has had concerns and so assigned an examiner

0:28:06.960 --> 0:28:10.760
<v Speaker 1>to look into Celsius's operations. There was even a fear

0:28:11.160 --> 0:28:14.199
<v Speaker 1>that the company was essentially operating as a Ponzi scheme,

0:28:15.400 --> 0:28:20.760
<v Speaker 1>whereas my colleague Chuck Bryant would say, it's a Ponzi scheme. Well,

0:28:20.760 --> 0:28:23.760
<v Speaker 1>in case you're not familiar with the term Ponzi scheme,

0:28:24.359 --> 0:28:29.760
<v Speaker 1>it's an unfortunately common scam in which someone running a

0:28:29.880 --> 0:28:33.920
<v Speaker 1>supposed business first gets a group of investors to pour

0:28:34.040 --> 0:28:37.000
<v Speaker 1>money into whatever the venture is, and the nature of

0:28:37.000 --> 0:28:41.640
<v Speaker 1>the venture doesn't really matter, it's just smoke screen. So

0:28:41.800 --> 0:28:45.120
<v Speaker 1>they get a first round of investments from people who think,

0:28:45.480 --> 0:28:47.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, oh this sounds like a good idea, or

0:28:47.760 --> 0:28:49.760
<v Speaker 1>I believe in this person or whatever, so they put

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<v Speaker 1>their money into it. Then the scam artist starts looking

0:28:54.160 --> 0:28:57.560
<v Speaker 1>for a second round of investors and convinces them to

0:28:57.640 --> 0:29:02.280
<v Speaker 1>put money into the venture the supposed company. Then they

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<v Speaker 1>use some of the money that's coming from the second

0:29:04.840 --> 0:29:08.560
<v Speaker 1>round of investors to pay out some returns to the

0:29:08.680 --> 0:29:11.840
<v Speaker 1>first round of investors. So the first round of investors

0:29:11.840 --> 0:29:15.760
<v Speaker 1>are given the implication that they are getting money on

0:29:15.880 --> 0:29:18.360
<v Speaker 1>top of the investment they have made, so a lot

0:29:18.440 --> 0:29:22.280
<v Speaker 1>of them will end up reinvesting into the company because

0:29:22.280 --> 0:29:24.560
<v Speaker 1>they're like, oh, wow, it's working, I'm making money. I'm

0:29:24.560 --> 0:29:26.800
<v Speaker 1>gonna put the money I made back into the company.

0:29:26.840 --> 0:29:30.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna make even more money. So the scheme perpetuates,

0:29:30.600 --> 0:29:33.240
<v Speaker 1>and the scam artist continues to try and get round

0:29:33.280 --> 0:29:36.240
<v Speaker 1>after round of investment and then using the incoming money

0:29:36.480 --> 0:29:39.440
<v Speaker 1>to give little payments out to the earlier investors in

0:29:39.560 --> 0:29:42.920
<v Speaker 1>order to keep the scheme going. But the venture itself

0:29:42.960 --> 0:29:46.320
<v Speaker 1>isn't actually generating revenue. It's not necessarily doing anything other

0:29:46.880 --> 0:29:50.480
<v Speaker 1>than let the con artists run around and make money

0:29:50.520 --> 0:29:53.520
<v Speaker 1>off of other people, like getting rich off other people's money.

0:29:53.760 --> 0:29:57.160
<v Speaker 1>The scheme is also not sustainable. It will ultimately get

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<v Speaker 1>to a point where you cannot get enough investments frequently

0:30:01.000 --> 0:30:04.840
<v Speaker 1>enough to pay out returns to earlier investors, and the

0:30:04.880 --> 0:30:08.520
<v Speaker 1>whole thing will come crashing down. Anyways, generally not good

0:30:08.520 --> 0:30:10.840
<v Speaker 1>news if a judge suspects that your crypto firm was

0:30:10.920 --> 0:30:13.800
<v Speaker 1>little more than a Ponzi scheme. The Celsias Network, for

0:30:13.840 --> 0:30:17.920
<v Speaker 1>its part, has said it welcomes third party investigations, which

0:30:17.960 --> 0:30:20.600
<v Speaker 1>is a good thing because it currently has a whole

0:30:20.640 --> 0:30:24.200
<v Speaker 1>bunch of them from the bankruptcy court and securities regulators,

0:30:24.240 --> 0:30:28.400
<v Speaker 1>and of course it's creditors. Okay, we're gonna take another

0:30:28.480 --> 0:30:32.000
<v Speaker 1>quick break. When we come back, we will tackle the

0:30:32.200 --> 0:30:35.960
<v Speaker 1>elephant in the crypto room f t X. But first

0:30:36.480 --> 0:30:50.000
<v Speaker 1>let's take this break. Okay, f t X, I have

0:30:50.080 --> 0:30:52.960
<v Speaker 1>covered this several times recently, but you know that we're

0:30:53.000 --> 0:30:54.880
<v Speaker 1>looking back on the year and this was a big story.

0:30:55.000 --> 0:30:58.520
<v Speaker 1>So I also say this every single time I cover this,

0:30:58.600 --> 0:31:01.280
<v Speaker 1>in case you haven't picked up on it. The crypto

0:31:01.360 --> 0:31:06.160
<v Speaker 1>world in general loves acronyms and initialisms. This is like

0:31:06.440 --> 0:31:10.120
<v Speaker 1>extra true for the f t X story. But the

0:31:10.120 --> 0:31:12.240
<v Speaker 1>short version of the story is that f t X,

0:31:12.280 --> 0:31:16.480
<v Speaker 1>which is a crypto or was a cryptocurrency exchange, imploded

0:31:16.520 --> 0:31:18.560
<v Speaker 1>in November of this year, and the ripples from that

0:31:18.600 --> 0:31:22.360
<v Speaker 1>event are playing out across the cryptocurrency space, including the

0:31:22.400 --> 0:31:27.160
<v Speaker 1>aforementioned Voyager Digital Lender, because the plan initially was for

0:31:27.280 --> 0:31:30.040
<v Speaker 1>f t X to bail that company out. But we're

0:31:30.080 --> 0:31:32.520
<v Speaker 1>going to dive into a tiny bit more detailed to

0:31:32.600 --> 0:31:38.480
<v Speaker 1>understand exactly what happened with this company. Okay, so the

0:31:38.560 --> 0:31:41.400
<v Speaker 1>main person involved in this story is a guy named

0:31:41.520 --> 0:31:45.240
<v Speaker 1>Sam Bankman Freed, whom the crypto world often refers to

0:31:45.360 --> 0:31:49.560
<v Speaker 1>as SBF. But I'm going to call him Sam because otherwise,

0:31:49.680 --> 0:31:52.400
<v Speaker 1>as we go on with the story, it's gonna start

0:31:52.400 --> 0:31:54.960
<v Speaker 1>to sound like I'm intoxicated and trying to say the

0:31:55.000 --> 0:31:58.280
<v Speaker 1>alphabet and I'm just getting it all wrong. So a

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<v Speaker 1>few years back, Sam Co founds an investment company called

0:32:02.680 --> 0:32:07.720
<v Speaker 1>Alameda Research, and this company, like three a C, made

0:32:07.720 --> 0:32:12.200
<v Speaker 1>its business in investing in various cryptocurrencies. So this company

0:32:12.240 --> 0:32:15.280
<v Speaker 1>operates for a couple of years and then sam Co

0:32:15.440 --> 0:32:19.280
<v Speaker 1>founds another company. This one is called ft X, and

0:32:19.360 --> 0:32:23.760
<v Speaker 1>it is a cryptocurrency exchange now, and exchange is a

0:32:23.840 --> 0:32:27.840
<v Speaker 1>business that exchanges currencies for other currencies. If you've ever

0:32:27.880 --> 0:32:32.440
<v Speaker 1>traveled internationally, you may have used a traditional exchange where

0:32:32.480 --> 0:32:35.800
<v Speaker 1>you convert some of your currency for whatever the local

0:32:35.840 --> 0:32:38.760
<v Speaker 1>currency is. So, for example, if you're from America and

0:32:38.840 --> 0:32:41.920
<v Speaker 1>you go to the UK, you might visit an exchange

0:32:42.160 --> 0:32:45.320
<v Speaker 1>to change out your U S dollars for British pounds.

0:32:45.960 --> 0:32:48.080
<v Speaker 1>Or if you're an American and you go to Canada,

0:32:48.440 --> 0:32:52.360
<v Speaker 1>you might exchange dollars for poutine. If you were to

0:32:52.400 --> 0:32:55.000
<v Speaker 1>come to my home state of Georgia, our currency is

0:32:55.000 --> 0:32:57.440
<v Speaker 1>coca cola, and let me tell you, it is very

0:32:57.440 --> 0:32:59.360
<v Speaker 1>hard to hold onto your money when you've got a

0:32:59.400 --> 0:33:04.640
<v Speaker 1>pocket full of loose cocola. Jokes aside, Currency exchanges make

0:33:04.680 --> 0:33:08.120
<v Speaker 1>their money by taking a little transaction fee or sometimes

0:33:08.120 --> 0:33:11.800
<v Speaker 1>a not so little transaction fee, every time they're changing

0:33:11.840 --> 0:33:15.800
<v Speaker 1>one form of currency into another for a customer. The

0:33:15.880 --> 0:33:21.760
<v Speaker 1>ft X exchange also minted its own cryptocurrency called f

0:33:21.880 --> 0:33:25.720
<v Speaker 1>t T, so if you wanted to, you could exchange

0:33:25.760 --> 0:33:28.680
<v Speaker 1>your dollars, or your bitcoin, or your a theory um

0:33:28.760 --> 0:33:33.680
<v Speaker 1>or whatever into f t T. In addition, customers could

0:33:33.760 --> 0:33:37.080
<v Speaker 1>store their wealth in f t X itself. Now, a

0:33:37.160 --> 0:33:39.720
<v Speaker 1>lot of folks will tell you that the best thing

0:33:39.720 --> 0:33:43.160
<v Speaker 1>to do with cryptocurrencies is not get involved. But for

0:33:43.200 --> 0:33:47.280
<v Speaker 1>those who are not skeptics like myself, then they might

0:33:47.320 --> 0:33:49.239
<v Speaker 1>say the best thing to do is to store your

0:33:49.280 --> 0:33:52.760
<v Speaker 1>cryptocurrency in a digital wallet that's living on a machine

0:33:53.160 --> 0:33:56.840
<v Speaker 1>that you have in your physical possession. That you store

0:33:56.840 --> 0:34:00.800
<v Speaker 1>it on a device that you own. Now, the danger

0:34:00.840 --> 0:34:04.080
<v Speaker 1>of that is if anything happens to that machine, then

0:34:04.120 --> 0:34:06.800
<v Speaker 1>your money is gone. It's kind of like a physical

0:34:06.840 --> 0:34:09.520
<v Speaker 1>wallet in that respect. If you drop your wallet, chances

0:34:09.560 --> 0:34:12.160
<v Speaker 1>are your money is a goner. Except for that one

0:34:12.160 --> 0:34:14.320
<v Speaker 1>time where I did drop my wallet while I was

0:34:14.360 --> 0:34:17.200
<v Speaker 1>walking to work, and a very nice person found the

0:34:17.200 --> 0:34:19.600
<v Speaker 1>wallet and drove all the way to my house and

0:34:19.640 --> 0:34:23.080
<v Speaker 1>returned my wallet to my wife, And that person is

0:34:23.120 --> 0:34:26.359
<v Speaker 1>a saint. I don't know how many people like that

0:34:26.360 --> 0:34:29.239
<v Speaker 1>are in the world, but I'm hoping that we see

0:34:29.280 --> 0:34:34.600
<v Speaker 1>more of them, because that's inspiring. Anyway. Some companies offer

0:34:34.719 --> 0:34:38.200
<v Speaker 1>a kind of cloud based wallet, so instead of keeping

0:34:38.200 --> 0:34:41.080
<v Speaker 1>your money on a physical machine that's in your possession,

0:34:41.719 --> 0:34:45.960
<v Speaker 1>your money lives in an account with whatever crypto company

0:34:46.040 --> 0:34:49.400
<v Speaker 1>this happens to be. So f t X had these accounts,

0:34:49.440 --> 0:34:52.759
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of customers had wealth stored in f

0:34:52.880 --> 0:34:56.160
<v Speaker 1>t X is coffers. Now, so far, there's not really

0:34:56.200 --> 0:34:59.640
<v Speaker 1>a problem with any of this. Meanwhile, Sam gets a

0:34:59.640 --> 0:35:03.880
<v Speaker 1>repute station for being kind of a philanthropic superbro in

0:35:03.920 --> 0:35:07.960
<v Speaker 1>the world of crypto. He donates to charities, He supports

0:35:08.000 --> 0:35:12.680
<v Speaker 1>progressive political candidates. He helps bail out other crypto companies

0:35:12.719 --> 0:35:15.840
<v Speaker 1>that are in trouble. He acts as a representative to

0:35:16.000 --> 0:35:21.840
<v Speaker 1>talk with regulators about ways to responsibly regulate cryptocurrency. Over time,

0:35:22.160 --> 0:35:25.840
<v Speaker 1>ft X establishes its headquarters in the Bahamas, which is

0:35:25.880 --> 0:35:28.400
<v Speaker 1>not unusual. A lot of crypto companies look to establish

0:35:28.400 --> 0:35:32.040
<v Speaker 1>themselves in places that have less regulatory oversight than say,

0:35:32.239 --> 0:35:36.600
<v Speaker 1>places like the United States. Fd X grows to become

0:35:37.000 --> 0:35:41.480
<v Speaker 1>the second largest cryptocurrency exchange in the world. The largest

0:35:41.520 --> 0:35:44.480
<v Speaker 1>one is a company called Binance, and it had been

0:35:44.520 --> 0:35:47.960
<v Speaker 1>an early investor in f t X, but fd X

0:35:48.000 --> 0:35:52.320
<v Speaker 1>had subsequently bought out finances investment with the aforementioned ft

0:35:52.480 --> 0:35:56.279
<v Speaker 1>T cryptocurrency. So they're like, here's this currency we made,

0:35:57.360 --> 0:36:00.120
<v Speaker 1>we're paying you back thanks for the early investment. So

0:36:00.160 --> 0:36:03.640
<v Speaker 1>Finance at the time was holding thousands and thousands of

0:36:03.680 --> 0:36:06.719
<v Speaker 1>f t T coins, so that represented a ton of

0:36:06.719 --> 0:36:11.960
<v Speaker 1>wealth and now our stage is set. So in November,

0:36:12.840 --> 0:36:17.640
<v Speaker 1>a cryptocurrency journal called coin Desk published an article that

0:36:17.719 --> 0:36:23.040
<v Speaker 1>included a leaked balance sheet that showed Alimator Research, Sam's

0:36:23.080 --> 0:36:28.040
<v Speaker 1>crypto investment company, had a very large source of ft

0:36:28.160 --> 0:36:32.040
<v Speaker 1>T tokens coming in to help cover investments, and apparently

0:36:32.760 --> 0:36:36.440
<v Speaker 1>what was happening was it was funneling ft T tokens

0:36:36.680 --> 0:36:40.360
<v Speaker 1>from f t X. So the implication was that Alimaated

0:36:40.400 --> 0:36:43.840
<v Speaker 1>Research was quote unquote borrowing money from f t X,

0:36:44.520 --> 0:36:49.400
<v Speaker 1>but fd X was not informing its customers its investors

0:36:49.440 --> 0:36:53.080
<v Speaker 1>that this was happening. So this meant that f t

0:36:53.400 --> 0:36:56.279
<v Speaker 1>X potentially would not have the money on hand to

0:36:56.360 --> 0:37:00.359
<v Speaker 1>pay out someone if they wanted to withdraw all of

0:37:00.400 --> 0:37:03.640
<v Speaker 1>their money that had been stored in f t X.

0:37:03.920 --> 0:37:05.600
<v Speaker 1>That's a big no no. It's the kind of thing

0:37:05.640 --> 0:37:07.799
<v Speaker 1>that can lead to a run on the bank, and

0:37:07.840 --> 0:37:10.640
<v Speaker 1>if the bank cannot cover all the cash, things get

0:37:10.800 --> 0:37:15.200
<v Speaker 1>real ugly, real fast. So Sam seemed to be robbing

0:37:15.280 --> 0:37:18.680
<v Speaker 1>Peter to pay Paul. He was taking customer money from

0:37:18.760 --> 0:37:22.080
<v Speaker 1>f t X and using it to cover investments at Alimato.

0:37:22.280 --> 0:37:25.160
<v Speaker 1>And while I'm saying Sam, really, I mean f t X,

0:37:25.280 --> 0:37:27.720
<v Speaker 1>and you know Sam is not the only person involved

0:37:27.719 --> 0:37:30.480
<v Speaker 1>in this. There's a whole group of people who were

0:37:30.920 --> 0:37:34.239
<v Speaker 1>in charge of running f t X. Sam himself has

0:37:34.360 --> 0:37:36.920
<v Speaker 1>argued multiple times that he was not aware of a

0:37:36.960 --> 0:37:39.279
<v Speaker 1>lot of this. I don't know how true that is,

0:37:39.320 --> 0:37:43.640
<v Speaker 1>but I'm using Sam kind of as a representative of

0:37:43.680 --> 0:37:47.239
<v Speaker 1>the company as a whole. Now. I'm sure that the

0:37:47.280 --> 0:37:51.320
<v Speaker 1>hope was that the investments that Alimator Research was making

0:37:51.680 --> 0:37:54.560
<v Speaker 1>would end up paying off big time, and that Alimated

0:37:54.600 --> 0:37:57.040
<v Speaker 1>would thus be able to pay back f t X

0:37:57.400 --> 0:38:00.800
<v Speaker 1>all that money and it borrowed, and then make profit

0:38:01.000 --> 0:38:04.760
<v Speaker 1>off of the rest. But things unraveled pretty quickly after

0:38:04.800 --> 0:38:07.680
<v Speaker 1>this leaked balance sheet made the news. So in the

0:38:07.680 --> 0:38:11.759
<v Speaker 1>wake of the report, Binance CEO Chung Peng Jao a

0:38:11.880 --> 0:38:17.120
<v Speaker 1>K A c Z because again initialisms, he announced that

0:38:17.239 --> 0:38:21.759
<v Speaker 1>Finance was going to sell off its massive vault of

0:38:21.920 --> 0:38:26.239
<v Speaker 1>ft t coins. So remember it held those f t

0:38:26.360 --> 0:38:29.480
<v Speaker 1>t coins because ft X had paid back Binance for

0:38:29.560 --> 0:38:33.600
<v Speaker 1>its initial investment. Well, I'm sure you realize that if

0:38:33.600 --> 0:38:37.360
<v Speaker 1>a market is suddenly flooded with any asset, the value

0:38:37.440 --> 0:38:40.520
<v Speaker 1>of that asset will go into decline. It's all supply

0:38:40.640 --> 0:38:44.120
<v Speaker 1>and demand, right Like if suddenly there's way more supply

0:38:44.160 --> 0:38:46.760
<v Speaker 1>than there is demand, and the value of that supply

0:38:46.840 --> 0:38:49.200
<v Speaker 1>goes down. So now you had all these f t

0:38:49.520 --> 0:38:52.920
<v Speaker 1>X customers who were worried that their coins were going

0:38:52.960 --> 0:38:57.120
<v Speaker 1>to be worthless, or at least worth less than they

0:38:57.160 --> 0:39:00.279
<v Speaker 1>had been, and so there was effectively a run on

0:39:00.320 --> 0:39:02.560
<v Speaker 1>the bank, and f t X, unable to cover this

0:39:02.600 --> 0:39:05.560
<v Speaker 1>contingency due to you know, sending way too much money

0:39:05.600 --> 0:39:07.719
<v Speaker 1>over to alimated research, which is what caused all this

0:39:07.760 --> 0:39:11.680
<v Speaker 1>in the first place, went into free fall. Now arguably

0:39:12.160 --> 0:39:14.520
<v Speaker 1>the killing blow for f t X came when c

0:39:14.760 --> 0:39:18.400
<v Speaker 1>Z said that finance would bail out the company and

0:39:18.440 --> 0:39:21.640
<v Speaker 1>then one day later backed out of that deal. Now

0:39:21.640 --> 0:39:24.399
<v Speaker 1>to be clear, there was nothing binding about that deal

0:39:24.440 --> 0:39:27.160
<v Speaker 1>in the first place, so it's not like they did

0:39:27.200 --> 0:39:30.920
<v Speaker 1>something illegal. But with no rescuer on the horizon, f

0:39:31.080 --> 0:39:34.800
<v Speaker 1>t X spiraled and crashed. Sam got the boot as CEO,

0:39:35.080 --> 0:39:37.759
<v Speaker 1>and the company brought in John Jay Ray, the third

0:39:38.520 --> 0:39:42.560
<v Speaker 1>to essentially oversee the dismantling and liquidation of f t X.

0:39:43.080 --> 0:39:46.359
<v Speaker 1>Ray had previously overseen similar duties when he was called

0:39:46.400 --> 0:39:48.440
<v Speaker 1>in to get as much value out of the company

0:39:48.520 --> 0:39:52.400
<v Speaker 1>in Ron in the wake of its bankruptcy that's a

0:39:52.640 --> 0:39:56.680
<v Speaker 1>heck of a story on its own right. So literally,

0:39:56.760 --> 0:39:59.839
<v Speaker 1>his job is to ring as much out of this

0:40:00.040 --> 0:40:03.640
<v Speaker 1>collapsed company as he possibly can in order to return

0:40:03.719 --> 0:40:07.719
<v Speaker 1>money to creditors and then investors as much of it

0:40:07.760 --> 0:40:12.200
<v Speaker 1>as he can manage anyway. Sam meanwhile remained in the Bahamas,

0:40:12.200 --> 0:40:15.560
<v Speaker 1>occasionally giving remote interviews where he said that there was

0:40:15.600 --> 0:40:18.760
<v Speaker 1>no intent to cause harm, that he didn't know anything

0:40:18.800 --> 0:40:22.440
<v Speaker 1>about any alleged wrongdoing, and even if he did know,

0:40:22.680 --> 0:40:26.400
<v Speaker 1>he didn't mean it, and so on. There were allegations

0:40:26.440 --> 0:40:30.600
<v Speaker 1>that hundreds of millions of dollars had mysteriously vanished out

0:40:30.600 --> 0:40:33.960
<v Speaker 1>of ftx's coffers immediately in the wake of the collapse,

0:40:34.480 --> 0:40:38.480
<v Speaker 1>and there were a lot of uh theories online that

0:40:38.560 --> 0:40:42.759
<v Speaker 1>perhaps Sam or one of his close friends had been

0:40:42.760 --> 0:40:45.280
<v Speaker 1>behind all that. There were others that were saying maybe

0:40:45.280 --> 0:40:47.480
<v Speaker 1>it was a hacker. There were a lot of questions.

0:40:48.520 --> 0:40:52.240
<v Speaker 1>Over time, folks started looking at what Sam was saying,

0:40:52.280 --> 0:40:55.239
<v Speaker 1>and they got all Shakespearean, you know, they said, the

0:40:55.320 --> 0:41:00.279
<v Speaker 1>crypto bro doth protest too much, methinks. And last week

0:41:00.520 --> 0:41:04.400
<v Speaker 1>Bahamanian police arrested Sam on behalf of the United States,

0:41:04.760 --> 0:41:08.520
<v Speaker 1>which has now charged Sam with multiple counts including money

0:41:08.560 --> 0:41:12.080
<v Speaker 1>laundering and securities fraud, among some others, and as a

0:41:12.200 --> 0:41:15.200
<v Speaker 1>record these episodes, the word is that Sam is preparing

0:41:15.239 --> 0:41:17.719
<v Speaker 1>to be extradited to the United States in order to

0:41:17.719 --> 0:41:21.200
<v Speaker 1>stand trial. He was also supposed to appear before the

0:41:21.280 --> 0:41:24.319
<v Speaker 1>US Senate to answer questions about the failure of f

0:41:24.400 --> 0:41:28.399
<v Speaker 1>t X, but declined that invitation just before he got

0:41:28.400 --> 0:41:32.680
<v Speaker 1>scooped up by the Pope po. Meanwhile, Finance is also

0:41:32.719 --> 0:41:38.880
<v Speaker 1>the subject of multiple investigations. So remember Finances the largest

0:41:38.880 --> 0:41:42.719
<v Speaker 1>cryptocurrency exchange in the world, it is also under a

0:41:42.760 --> 0:41:45.879
<v Speaker 1>law of scrutiny. The company has been accused of processing

0:41:45.960 --> 0:41:49.719
<v Speaker 1>ten billion dollars worth of illegal transactions just this year,

0:41:50.239 --> 0:41:53.440
<v Speaker 1>including stuff like money laundering. So in the wake of

0:41:53.520 --> 0:41:59.560
<v Speaker 1>so many cryptocurrency companies collapsing, there's an understandable concern that

0:41:59.600 --> 0:42:06.319
<v Speaker 1>the world largest cryptocurrency exchange could suffer the same fate. Ultimately, now,

0:42:06.400 --> 0:42:12.439
<v Speaker 1>c Z has tried to reassure investors, investors, customers, regulators

0:42:12.440 --> 0:42:15.320
<v Speaker 1>that there's nothing really to worry about, and that Finance

0:42:15.400 --> 0:42:19.759
<v Speaker 1>even commissioned a third party to review Finances reserves to

0:42:19.840 --> 0:42:23.560
<v Speaker 1>show that the exchange has a one to one reserve

0:42:23.640 --> 0:42:26.760
<v Speaker 1>representing all customer investments in the exchange. In other words,

0:42:27.400 --> 0:42:31.080
<v Speaker 1>if every single customer wanted to withdraw their money from finance,

0:42:31.200 --> 0:42:34.120
<v Speaker 1>finance would be able to cover it, except the report

0:42:34.200 --> 0:42:37.759
<v Speaker 1>did not say that. In fact, it showed that finances

0:42:37.800 --> 0:42:41.400
<v Speaker 1>reserves fall a little short of covering the wealth invested

0:42:41.400 --> 0:42:43.680
<v Speaker 1>in it. Not a lot short, not like f TX,

0:42:44.520 --> 0:42:49.480
<v Speaker 1>but it's a little short, probably because finance also issues loans,

0:42:50.360 --> 0:42:55.520
<v Speaker 1>So some of binances money is actually out in circulation

0:42:55.560 --> 0:42:59.840
<v Speaker 1>and customer hands, and presumably will ultimately return to Binance

0:43:00.200 --> 0:43:03.520
<v Speaker 1>as these customers pay it back with interest in the future.

0:43:04.200 --> 0:43:08.000
<v Speaker 1>But even before all these crypto failures, regulators around the

0:43:08.000 --> 0:43:12.080
<v Speaker 1>world we're already starting to scrutinize cryptocurrency more intensely in

0:43:12.120 --> 0:43:15.719
<v Speaker 1>the wake of collapse. After collapse, there is a new

0:43:15.800 --> 0:43:19.200
<v Speaker 1>sense of urgency around the world, particularly as folks like

0:43:19.320 --> 0:43:22.160
<v Speaker 1>John Jay Ray the Third proclaim that ft X experienced

0:43:22.160 --> 0:43:27.920
<v Speaker 1>a quote complete failure of corporate controls end quote, suggesting

0:43:27.960 --> 0:43:30.839
<v Speaker 1>that these crypto companies are operating like fly by night

0:43:30.920 --> 0:43:35.520
<v Speaker 1>shady organizations that also happened to have access to hundreds

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<v Speaker 1>of millions of dollars worth of customer funds. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>general perception that crypto is going to have to adjust

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<v Speaker 1>to a world of increased regulation in the not too

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<v Speaker 1>distant future, maybe next Sunday a d So that's a

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<v Speaker 1>summary of some of the big stories that happened in

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<v Speaker 1>crypto this year. Now I did mention n f t

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<v Speaker 1>s and web three as well, so I should give

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<v Speaker 1>a super quick update on those ideas. So n f

0:44:00.800 --> 0:44:04.000
<v Speaker 1>t s or non fungible tokens represents some sort of

0:44:04.280 --> 0:44:08.880
<v Speaker 1>unique asset, a digital asset typically, and I've often equated

0:44:09.239 --> 0:44:11.040
<v Speaker 1>n f t s as being kind of like a

0:44:11.120 --> 0:44:15.480
<v Speaker 1>receipt for something, usually something digital. So it's not the

0:44:15.480 --> 0:44:19.359
<v Speaker 1>thing itself, it's representation of ownership of that thing. So

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<v Speaker 1>in January of two, n f t s were trading

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<v Speaker 1>at a peak. The value of those trades was around

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen billion dollars, but over the course of twenty twenty two,

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<v Speaker 1>trading dropped precipitously and then absolutely plummeted. It's down scent

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<v Speaker 1>from the beginning of the year, according to Bloomberg, and

0:44:38.640 --> 0:44:41.319
<v Speaker 1>that seventeen billion dollars of value is down to four

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<v Speaker 1>hundred sixty six million. That's still a lot, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>nothing close to what it was at the beginning of

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<v Speaker 1>the year. A lot of folks became disenchanted with n

0:44:50.520 --> 0:44:53.160
<v Speaker 1>f t s fairly early in twenty two, and it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't help that there were plenty of opportunists who were

0:44:56.320 --> 0:44:58.600
<v Speaker 1>running n f T scams. They were taking the money

0:44:58.680 --> 0:45:01.719
<v Speaker 1>and running really damaged the image of n f T

0:45:01.880 --> 0:45:05.160
<v Speaker 1>s overall, like they were already overvalued in my opinion,

0:45:05.560 --> 0:45:09.600
<v Speaker 1>but the scams definitely kind of showed the ugly side

0:45:09.719 --> 0:45:13.560
<v Speaker 1>of this this world, and it was exacerbated by campaigns

0:45:13.560 --> 0:45:16.279
<v Speaker 1>that hired influencers to hype up n f t s,

0:45:16.719 --> 0:45:20.080
<v Speaker 1>some of which ended up being cash grabs and total scams.

0:45:20.120 --> 0:45:22.920
<v Speaker 1>So even Justin Bieber hyped up and n f T

0:45:23.160 --> 0:45:26.840
<v Speaker 1>without first disclosing that he actually had some ownership interest

0:45:26.920 --> 0:45:31.160
<v Speaker 1>in the venture itself. So if you can't trust Justin Bieber,

0:45:31.800 --> 0:45:36.560
<v Speaker 1>who can you trust, baby Baby Baby. So n f

0:45:36.600 --> 0:45:39.919
<v Speaker 1>T s have a damaged reputation at this point, as

0:45:39.960 --> 0:45:43.440
<v Speaker 1>does crypto in general, and that brings us to Web three.

0:45:43.800 --> 0:45:47.960
<v Speaker 1>So Web three is a really hazy, ill defined concept.

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<v Speaker 1>Generally speaking, Web three proponents say the future web is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be built on top of blockchain, and that

0:45:55.080 --> 0:45:57.520
<v Speaker 1>it's going to be a decentralized approach to the web.

0:45:57.560 --> 0:46:01.440
<v Speaker 1>It'll free us from the current anchors holding down the web,

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<v Speaker 1>these massive companies like Google and Amazon and Meta, Except

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<v Speaker 1>that in reality such a web would still be centralized

0:46:09.520 --> 0:46:12.040
<v Speaker 1>because it would really fall into the hands of whatever

0:46:12.120 --> 0:46:16.600
<v Speaker 1>powerful entities had invested in those blockchains. So at best,

0:46:16.600 --> 0:46:21.920
<v Speaker 1>you're really talking about a poorly defined infrastructure that has

0:46:21.960 --> 0:46:24.920
<v Speaker 1>just switched out the names of who is the most influential,

0:46:25.480 --> 0:46:29.040
<v Speaker 1>right like the names of change, But the situation is

0:46:29.080 --> 0:46:32.240
<v Speaker 1>still the same. Also, I should point out the original

0:46:32.280 --> 0:46:35.680
<v Speaker 1>concept of the Internet was decentralized. It is a network

0:46:35.760 --> 0:46:40.399
<v Speaker 1>of networks that doesn't have centralized power associated with it.

0:46:40.760 --> 0:46:43.480
<v Speaker 1>Like they're trying to solve a problem that was solved

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<v Speaker 1>just by the invention of the Internet. It's not really

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<v Speaker 1>the Internet's fault that there were these massive companies that

0:46:49.440 --> 0:46:52.800
<v Speaker 1>managed to consolidate power over the time that the Internet

0:46:52.840 --> 0:46:58.440
<v Speaker 1>has been an action. So yeah, it's it's taking a

0:46:58.520 --> 0:47:04.680
<v Speaker 1>hammer to a problem that needs a screwdriver in my opinion. Anyway,

0:47:04.840 --> 0:47:08.920
<v Speaker 1>toward the end of into the beginning of two, there

0:47:09.040 --> 0:47:12.680
<v Speaker 1>was this ton of hype around Web three. But since

0:47:12.719 --> 0:47:16.640
<v Speaker 1>those ideas of Web three are also tightly connected to

0:47:16.719 --> 0:47:20.440
<v Speaker 1>other blockchain concepts like cryptocurrency and n f t s,

0:47:20.760 --> 0:47:26.239
<v Speaker 1>and because of the dramatic failure of those things, we

0:47:26.600 --> 0:47:30.120
<v Speaker 1>three hype meisters have really suffered some major setbacks in

0:47:30.160 --> 0:47:34.640
<v Speaker 1>the back half of now I'm not ready to say

0:47:34.719 --> 0:47:37.560
<v Speaker 1>Web three is dead in the water, but i will

0:47:37.600 --> 0:47:39.640
<v Speaker 1>say it's going to have to swim awful hard to

0:47:39.680 --> 0:47:42.440
<v Speaker 1>avoid the riptide that's pulling at its feet, you know,

0:47:42.840 --> 0:47:48.040
<v Speaker 1>to torture a metaphor. Okay, that's it for this episode

0:47:48.080 --> 0:47:50.720
<v Speaker 1>of looking back on the big Tech stories of two,

0:47:50.800 --> 0:47:54.719
<v Speaker 1>the cryptocurrency edition. We will continue this tomorrow with other

0:47:55.080 --> 0:47:58.920
<v Speaker 1>news stories, so stay tuned for that. We've got a

0:47:58.920 --> 0:48:03.440
<v Speaker 1>lot more to cover before we finish out, and I

0:48:03.480 --> 0:48:08.040
<v Speaker 1>am honestly really looking forward to and seeing what that brings.

0:48:08.080 --> 0:48:10.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't know that it's going to be better. I'm

0:48:10.120 --> 0:48:14.360
<v Speaker 1>not being that optimistic, but I'm certainly curious and I'm hopeful.

0:48:14.480 --> 0:48:17.879
<v Speaker 1>I would love to see things start to improve and

0:48:18.920 --> 0:48:24.080
<v Speaker 1>have us learn lessons from the catastrophic failures that we've

0:48:24.120 --> 0:48:28.719
<v Speaker 1>seen this past year. Remember, failure is an opportunity to learn,

0:48:28.960 --> 0:48:32.000
<v Speaker 1>but we have to take the opportunity for it to work.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it. I hope you are all doing well. I

0:48:35.239 --> 0:48:38.120
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0:48:38.440 --> 0:48:46.560
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