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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: It's Friday, everybody. Friday edition of The Clay Travis and

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Speaker 2: Buck Sexton Show starts right now. We've got a lot

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Speaker 2: for you today. We'll take you off into the weekend

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Speaker 2: with all of the stuff you need to know her.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna have some fun the processes we always do.

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Speaker 2: New York City Mayor Eric Adams says they can't take

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Speaker 2: any more legal immigrants, no more room at the inn,

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Speaker 2: so to speak. We will get into what's going on

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Speaker 2: there a little later on the program. Jason al Dean

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Speaker 2: continues to get a lot of attention and a lot

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Speaker 2: of people standing up for him and his music. In

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Speaker 2: this process. The controversy that seems entirely manufactured by the left.

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Speaker 2: Will bring you the latest salvo they are firing at

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Speaker 2: him on this one. And we've also got Miranda Divine

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Speaker 2: with us at the bottom of this hour. She is

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Speaker 2: the author of Laptop from Hell. She is a New

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Speaker 2: York Post columnist and expert on all things Hunter Biden.

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Speaker 2: After the whistleblower situation yesterday, Oh Clay, did you see

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Speaker 2: because we talked about this without even knowing it. The

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Speaker 2: blackout on IRS whistleblower content across the major media outlets

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Speaker 2: was just even if you expect it to see it happen,

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Speaker 2: it's pretty amazing that they're just like, yeah, And the

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Speaker 2: other one I love is so called So many of

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Speaker 2: these media outlets say so called whistleblower, Well they were

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Speaker 2: at the IRS for many years. They're decorated IRS officers

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Speaker 2: who say that there was a problem with this that's

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Speaker 2: called the whistleblower. Just because you don't like the whistle

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Speaker 2: doesn't mean that it's not a whistleblower, if you know

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Speaker 2: what I mean, just because you don't like what the

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Speaker 2: subject matter may be. But we'll talk to Miranda Divine

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Speaker 2: about that one. But you call it yesterday're like, how

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Speaker 2: many people even know about this that are seeing at

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Speaker 2: a New York Times audience. Well, if if it just

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Speaker 2: this case, they probably don't know at all because they

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Speaker 2: just didn't cover it. And that's that's that. But the

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Speaker 2: big news today, which we want to dive into, is

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Speaker 2: we've been discussing when will these trials of Trump occur,

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Speaker 2: And we've been going back and forth on will it

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Speaker 2: happen before or after the election, because that obviously will

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Speaker 2: have really major implications for the election, and some people

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Speaker 2: would even say for the country, we are in a

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Speaker 2: crazy period here. Well, Clay, Judge Eileen Cannon has set

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Speaker 2: May twenty twenty four for the trial date for the

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Speaker 2: document case, the one about mar A Lago document holding.

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Speaker 2: So she set the trial date for May. It's a

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Speaker 2: bit of a ways off, could still change. What are

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Speaker 2: your biggest takeaways in thought on this one right now?

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Speaker 3: So, first of all, to be to be honest this morning,

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Speaker 3: because I've said it on the show. I was surprised

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Speaker 3: that she said it on May twenty fourth, So let's

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Speaker 3: contextualize where that sets. The nominee for the Republican for

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Speaker 3: the Republican primaries will have been selected by the time

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Speaker 3: this trial would begin. And frankly, remember I believe the

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Speaker 3: New York City I'm not sure the exact trial date,

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Speaker 3: but it's in March for the you know, bogus bookkeeping

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Speaker 3: felony that they charged New York City, did New York State.

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Speaker 3: So in theory, you would have Trump on trial March, April, May, June,

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Speaker 3: and July of twenty twenty four. Now, all of these

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Speaker 3: of a I would say, a pause as you get ready. Now,

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Speaker 3: I don't know whether May twenty fourth will end up occurring.

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Speaker 3: I actually think we're getting to a calendar situation where

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Speaker 3: it's very very difficult for this DC charges in the

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Speaker 3: event that they occur, or Atlanta occurs, for them to

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Speaker 3: be slotted before the election. Now, maybe we'll see exactly

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Speaker 3: how this all plays out big picture. I think that

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Speaker 3: Trump has a very good chance to beat the charges

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Speaker 3: in South Florida because you are going to have a

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Speaker 3: jury that is at least made up of half Trump voters.

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Speaker 3: I think there are many people in South Florida right

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Speaker 3: now listening to us Buck that would love to be

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Speaker 3: on that jury and would as a juror negate any

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Speaker 3: opportunity to convict Donald Trump because they love this country

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Speaker 3: that's frankly, if I were seated on a jury. Have

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Speaker 3: you ever been on a jury, Buck, No, I was

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Speaker 3: that case. And what's so fascinating about it is really

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Speaker 3: the jury selection is every bit as important as the

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Speaker 3: jury and not to negate the trial, which Trump. If

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Speaker 3: it's a hung jury, that doesn't mean it's not guilty.

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Speaker 3: It means they can't come to a verdict, which Trump,

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Speaker 3: I think would take as supreme vindication in this being

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Speaker 2: So that's I think on the legal component of it.

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Speaker 2: On the political reality that we now face, you have

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Speaker 2: a Republican presidential front runner who's up at least twenty

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Speaker 2: Desantists team, as I understand it, there's a story yesterday

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Speaker 2: in Politico that they're doing a essentially a rebrand, if

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Speaker 2: DeSantis campaign because they just haven't seen the gap closing

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Speaker 2: with Trump yet. They have a lot of money and

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Speaker 2: it's early. That's their message. But on the political side

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Speaker 2: of this, which you're going to have, is the federal

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Speaker 2: trial is going to come after effectively the Republican nominee

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Speaker 2: who the Republican nominee is, and he may very well

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Speaker 2: be assuming it is Trump facing federal felony criminal charges

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Speaker 2: in a court in Florida while the election is ongoing. Yes,

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Speaker 2: Atlanta four criminal trials Clay, Yes, of the president. I mean,

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Speaker 2: They're setting it for two weeks. So the possibility here

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Speaker 2: of they're making sure that Trump is the nominee and

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Speaker 2: then making sure that they rig the system against Trump

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Speaker 2: as the nominee. It feels like this is strengthening that

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Speaker 2: making sure. But this is also I say, it's gonna

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Speaker 2: be Biden, everybody, if this all holds, It's gonna be

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Speaker 2: they rig the game. It's not about is Biden compelling,

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Speaker 2: Is he selling out the country? They don't care. This

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Speaker 2: is how they think they win what we are seeing

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Speaker 2: right now, using the legal system to do their dirty

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Speaker 2: work for them. Yeah, I mean I saw where was it?

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Speaker 3: Mediaite said that I had a crazy, wacky conspiracy theory.

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Speaker 3: They wrote a huge story about how crazy it was.

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Speaker 3: And people have been on this and I think you

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Speaker 3: that this is all politics, and the politics is pretty simple.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, let's open up phone lines because

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Speaker 3: some people disagree with this. But I again, there's only

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Speaker 3: one rational basis under which the Democrats are moving, right,

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Speaker 3: I said, Buck, there are three possibilities here. One is

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Speaker 3: they can't stomach the fact that Trump has I can't

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Speaker 3: even finish that argument. All of you know, that's a joke.

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Speaker 3: I mean, just look at what they're letting Joe Biden

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Speaker 3: The other one is they desperately fear Trump. This is

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Speaker 3: what some diehard Trump supporters want to believe, but I

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Speaker 3: just don't buy it. They desperately fear Trump, and so

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Speaker 3: they are trying to knock him out of the election

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Speaker 3: with these charges. But that doesn't add up because Trump

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Speaker 3: gets strengthened in the Republican primary every time new charges

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Speaker 2: That is what the data shows, the rally to Trump

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Speaker 3: So that doesn't make sense. They're not going to take

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Speaker 3: him off the ballot in Iowa, in New Hampshire. He's

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Speaker 3: the first actual people being able to voice their opinions

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Speaker 3: I haven't seen anything, any sign that things are going

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Speaker 3: They meaning the Democrat Party, have made the calculation that

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Speaker 3: Trump being charged, strengthens him in the Republican primary race,

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Speaker 3: makes him the nominee, and they want to run, whether

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Speaker 3: it's Biden or someone else. But I think to your point,

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Speaker 3: Biden definitely wants to run against Trump. I think it

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Speaker 3: would be more likely. I still, I still don't think

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Speaker 3: Biden has the physical ability. I think it's gonna be

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Speaker 3: hard to argue that he does. You're even more cynical

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Speaker 4: Like that.

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Speaker 3: You'd think they'll fetterman him and do whatever. They wheel

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Speaker 3: him out with the blanket on his knees, drooling on himself.

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Speaker 3: They don't care, but keep going. And so the only

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Speaker 3: the nominee. And then they know, because they're looking at

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Speaker 3: the data, that they're simultaneously weakening him in the general.

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Speaker 3: They don't think that Trump can win in twenty four,

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Speaker 3: which is why they want to run against him.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'll say this there. You will not come across.

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Speaker 2: If you think about this like a Democrat operative for

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Speaker 2: a sex yes, which I think is very useful. Don't

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Speaker 2: think about it like a Trump supporter, don't think about

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Speaker 2: it like a Republican, a Democrat operative sitting there would say,

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Speaker 2: they don't believe that. Look if they believe that they

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Speaker 2: got away with cheating, And there's there's the what rules

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Speaker 2: were changed with COVID, There's a lot of things.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of ways we can talk about this,

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Speaker 3: But twenty twenty election was rigged for Biden. I think

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Speaker 3: that's very fair to say the degree to which it was.

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Speaker 3: People can agree or disagree.

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Speaker 3: The only analogy I can think of, Buck, and this

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Speaker 3: Just think about this, we'll talk about it. But to

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Speaker 2: You know, Clay everywhere I go. Everywhere I go and

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Speaker 3: We got Miranda for the first time I've seen you.

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Speaker 2: Him Miranda at this point, and we're speaking Miranda Devine.

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Speaker 2: Her book is Laptop from Hall. You should all check

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think that the focus has been

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Speaker 4: about Hunter Biden's overseas business dealings. And so I think

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Speaker 4: be testifying, He's supposed to be testifying on Monday. That's

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Speaker 4: mysteriously been changed. They're waiting for some documents I think

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Speaker 4: to become available, but that he'll be on next week

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Speaker 4: at some point. And he knows about Joe biden involvement,

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Speaker 4: then there are other wickle blowers that are coming through,

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Speaker 4: who know that there's been a cover up. And that's

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Speaker 4: how we got this FD ten twenty three form because

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Speaker 4: And then finally when they were dragged, kicking and screaming

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Speaker 4: sort of secure room. They wouldn't hand it over. They

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Speaker 4: redacted so much out of it and just gratuitous things

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Speaker 4: FBI originally redacted the line where's Lazewski says how dumb

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Speaker 4: So why would you redact to that? The FBI saying, Oh,

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Speaker 4: it's to protect you know, sources and methods. That's got

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Speaker 4: nothing to do. They also redacted the the line where

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Speaker 4: it says that Lechevsky was recording Hunter and Joe Biden

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Speaker 4: seventeen recordings that he kept for insurance, and that was

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Speaker 4: taken out as well. Now, I don't know why you

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Speaker 4: would do that unless you're just protecting Joe Biden.

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Speaker 3: Last question for you, Miranda, and you've killed it reporting

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Speaker 3: this since October when this first went public, And we've

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Speaker 3: over fifty percent of Democrats still believe the Russian disinformation lie.

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Speaker 2: Associated with the laptop.

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Speaker 3: How frustrating is it to you that this probably is

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Speaker 3: the most successful disinformation campaign in American modern political history,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's really it's dispariting, but it's frightening, and it

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Speaker 2: Miranda Vine. Everybody check out laptop from how Miranda always

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Speaker 3: Well Man Hour number two Friday Edition, Clay Travis Buck

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Speaker 3: Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us.

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Speaker 3: It has been considering It's the middle of July and

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Speaker 3: And the latest bit of news that we started off

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Speaker 3: trial date being set in South Florida, and I want

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Speaker 3: to open up phone lines eight hundred and two eighty

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Speaker 3: two two eight eight two to allow you guys to

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Speaker 3: weigh in what next couple of hours as we roll

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Speaker 3: through the Friday edition of the program. But Buck in

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Speaker 3: the first hour I mentioned the only analogous situation that

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Speaker 3: I can think about in any similar way to having

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Speaker 3: a celebrity stand trial while also doing his other job.

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Speaker 3: Right in theory, Trump might well be the Republican nominee

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Speaker 3: for president standing trial for felony charges. There could legitimately

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Speaker 3: be a situation where he is in South Florida at

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Speaker 3: the trial in the day, then he hops on his

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Speaker 3: and he campaigns as president of the United States in

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Speaker 3: Wisconsin or Pennsylvania or Georgia or Arizona, all these places

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Speaker 3: that are going to be the quote unquote toss up states.

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Speaker 3: And so the only analogy I can think of, do

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Speaker 3: you remember this? Kobe Bryant was charged with rape in Eagle, Colorado,

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Speaker 3: and he would go to the criminal trial and he

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Speaker 3: would attend it, and then when the day at court ended,

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Speaker 3: he would get on a private plane fly to Los

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Speaker 3: Angeles and sometimes Times play for the LA Lakers that night.

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Speaker 3: A lot of people have forgotten that this occurred. This

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Speaker 3: would have been maybe like two thousand and four ish.

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Speaker 3: I need to look up the years. I don't remember,

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Speaker 3: but in the last twenty years, and people couldn't get

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Speaker 3: over First of all, you could never do that today.

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Speaker 3: You couldn't be an athlete standing trial for rape playing

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Speaker 3: basketball for your team in the evening. I think the

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Speaker 3: media would lose its mind. But think about the big

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Speaker 3: part of the discussion was the amount of mental toughness

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Speaker 3: and energy required to stand trial all day then get

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Speaker 3: on an airplane, fly somewhere and play a basketball game.

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Speaker 3: Is akin, to me buck to what Trump would be

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Speaker 3: required to do sit in that courtroom all day. The

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Speaker 3: difference is Kobe Bryant at the time was like twenty

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Speaker 3: seven or twenty eight years old, maybe younger, super highly

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Speaker 3: tuned athlete, probably has energy through the roof.

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Speaker 2: Trump would be seventy seven.

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Speaker 3: One thing that I don't think people are talking about

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Speaker 3: enough associated with this. I think seventy eight maybe at

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Speaker 3: the time that the trial would be going on. This

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Speaker 3: isn't just a direct attack on our elections by Democrats.

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Speaker 3: It also is a direct attack on Trump, because how

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Speaker 3: in the world can you campaign for the most important

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Speaker 3: job in the world when you are required to be

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Speaker 3: sitting at a defendant table for months at a time

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Speaker 3: during the election year.

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Speaker 2: It's a really ironic switch, isn't it. Because Joe Biden

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Speaker 2: was able to become president by choosing to not campaign,

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Speaker 2: and now the Democrats are hoping to keep Joe Biden

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Speaker 2: president by stopping Trump from campaigning. That's effectively what we

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Speaker 2: see going on here. And the question will be is

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Speaker 2: it The biggest question of all, of course, is will

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Speaker 2: it actually work? And I have to say if they're

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Speaker 2: not allowing if they're setting trial dates, this one set

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Speaker 2: for May, the one for the documents at mar a Lago,

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Speaker 2: and obstruction, it's actually really an obstruction case. And I

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Speaker 2: think that's where legal analysts, including conservative legal analysts, think

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Speaker 2: there's the greatest degree of legal jeopardy for Trump. Although

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Speaker 2: I'm with you. I think that in Florida, you get

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Speaker 2: one Trump voter on that jury and it's gonna say

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Speaker 2: it's just nullification. It's gonna be this trap. This never

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Speaker 2: should have happened. I mean, I'd say this if I

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Speaker 2: were on that jury. I wouldn't let them convict it,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I mean, I'm not a

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Speaker 2: surprise to anybody, but I'm saying I'd be like, no,

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Speaker 2: you could wait, you could be in the jury pool almost.

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Speaker 2: I mean theoretically, I guess I could actually yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: So obviously you can't force everybody else to change their minds.

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Speaker 2: But I'm saying, you know, all would take is one

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Speaker 2: guy and you can't get it or gal and you

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Speaker 2: can't get a conviction of Trump if they decide they're

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Speaker 2: dug in.

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Speaker 3: If I were in South Florida, Buck and I didn't

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Speaker 3: have you know, we didn't have our public jobs, right,

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Speaker 3: I don't think my opinions would be any different if

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Speaker 3: I I would love to.

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Speaker 2: Be on that I like, let's say I was in

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Speaker 2: the CIA. Still, I would love to get on that jury. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I would fight to get on that jury, and I

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Speaker 3: would stakes and say not guilty for everything and refuse

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Speaker 3: to change my opinion.

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Speaker 2: This is something that aw conservatives, because I know, we

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Speaker 2: don't like to be harassed by the government, and people

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Speaker 2: tend to think of jury duty almost with the same

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Speaker 2: abiding affection they do dealing with the irs. It's just

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Speaker 2: like h like just anything, but that like please leave

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Speaker 2: me alone. We actually need honest, ethical, constitution and America

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Speaker 2: loving people to serve on jurys. I know it's it's

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Speaker 2: easier said than done, but especially like if you think

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Speaker 2: about a Daniel Penny case up in New York, we

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Speaker 2: need somebody of common sense who's not going to be

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Speaker 2: brainwashed by that prosecution to thinking, yeah, you know what,

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Speaker 2: like let's just let's just create a situation where everyone

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Speaker 2: has to live in constant fear and terror and someone

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Speaker 2: so anyway, back back to the the realities here that

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Speaker 2: Trump faces in this in this election. I wonder also,

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Speaker 2: you know, how this will affect those people who remember

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Speaker 2: it's fifty percent of the GOP right now, that is

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Speaker 2: according to the national polls that are for Trump. Fifty

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Speaker 2: percent is for someone else, correct DeSantis, Vivek Hayley. But

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Speaker 2: there'll be some consolidation there over time. I think as

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Speaker 2: people realize that that that you know, one percent that

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Speaker 2: Asa Hutchinson's pulling, it's not going to two. So there's

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Speaker 2: going to be there's going to be some consolidation that occurs,

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Speaker 2: and as this gets closer, I think it becomes more

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Speaker 2: apparent to people that the single most important thing of

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Speaker 2: all here is going to be who can win this thing.

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Speaker 2: And that also means that when you're when you're looking

650
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Speaker 2: at these Republican candidates, I think they should all come

651
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Speaker 2: out and say that they would pardon that they would

652
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 2: we've asked them, but that they would pardon Trump. Because

653
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 2: this is going to get very real here with the

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Speaker 2: j six charges coming down as well, you may have

655
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Speaker 2: President Trump. It is possible, based on the timelines we

656
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 2: are seeing, they're going to try to lock him up

657
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Speaker 2: in prison. Yeah. I'm not saying it will happen. I'm

658
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 2: not saying he'll be convicted. I am saying, though, this

659
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,839
Speaker 2: is not a crazy thing to consider. And I do

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00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 2: believe overwhelmingly that Democrats, I mean the Democrat approval of

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Speaker 2: locking Trump up in a cell in the election year,

662
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Speaker 2: I would wager his ninety five percent, ninety nine percent something,

663
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 2: you know, basically all of them, And that just shows

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Speaker 2: you what the mentality really is. Now. Trump has said

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Speaker 2: that he would still run even if he was in prison,

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Speaker 2: and this is going to be the biggest political story

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00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 2: in some ways, maybe of our lifetimes. If this all

668
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 2: goes down the way that we're expecting it to. I

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00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 2: don't think anything else could really compare with this. But

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Speaker 2: I wonder to your point, to your first point here

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00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 2: about what this will do to the president. It's hard

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00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 2: for us all because I think we've realized, no matter

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Speaker 2: what the the election interference now has been turned on

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00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 2: up to a point where you know, what are we

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00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 2: supposed to do? There is no such thing as it

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00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 2: being fair to Trump at this point, right There's no

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00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 2: fair when when you've got prosecutions, including prosecutions that even

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00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 2: honest Democrats will say are just total crap. They're they're

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00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 2: they're rigging the game right now. And one of the

680
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 2: frustrations I think for a lot of people is we

681
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 2: can vote, we can rally, you can you know, you

682
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:28,919
Speaker 2: can donate to your candidate, you can donate to Trump,

683
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,359
Speaker 2: you can rally behind him. None of that is going

684
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 2: to change any of what we're talking about. On the

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00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 2: legal side. This is the machine operating without a care

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00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 2: about whether people think it's fair or not, and he's

687
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,280
Speaker 2: their candidate or not. On the outside. In fact, if anything,

688
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 2: it's happening because of the people that would vote for

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Speaker 2: Trump and they want to take that option away from them.

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Speaker 2: And I just think that there's a little feeling of

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00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 2: both a lot of anger and then there's a little

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00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 2: bit of a feeling of helplessness too. It's like, how

693
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 2: can this be happening in the country right now? Like

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00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 2: how can you have the leading Republican presidential contender and

695
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 2: a former president And there is something you know, I mean,

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you. I would say a former Democrat presidents.

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00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 2: Like if someone said, oh, I saw Bill Clinton and

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00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 2: I was shouting at him and telling him how awfully,

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00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 2: they'd be like, hey, like the former president, he's not

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00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 2: in power anymore. Like we should as a society want

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00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,800
Speaker 2: to have respect for people that have held that office,

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00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 2: even after they've left the office's at some level. I'm

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00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 2: not saying you can't criticize them, obviously, we criticize them

704
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 2: all the time, but we don't want to lock them

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00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 2: in cells, you know, we don't want them to have

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00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 2: to be doing public showers, yeah, or you know, But

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Speaker 2: that's what I mean that there's a breakdown in the

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Speaker 2: most basic respect and decorum that these prosecutions represent. As well,

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Speaker 2: it's debasing us as a country that they're doing this to.

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Speaker 2: You know, we're looking at this from the he's running

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Speaker 2: for president's side, but there's also the this is a

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Speaker 2: former president. They're doing this too. And we used to

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00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 2: all understand, like, guys, unless someone murders somebody or something,

714
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Speaker 2: they're former president. For the benefit of the country, we're

715
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:07,240
Speaker 2: going to let some things go Nixon, Clinton, And now

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00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 2: they're doing the exact opposite, and there's something really yeah, nefarious,

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00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 2: but you know, there's something profoundly disturbing about that for

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Speaker 2: the country.

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Speaker 3: I think that is one hundred percent correct, and I

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Speaker 3: just look at the practical requirements. It is grueling for

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Speaker 3: anyone to be standing trial. That's the reality, and I

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Speaker 3: hope I would imagine the vast majority of our audience

723
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Speaker 3: has never been in a courtroom, never been facing criminal charges.

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Speaker 3: But the amount of energy and effort and intensity that

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Speaker 3: you have, I mean, buck, the jury draws much of

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Speaker 3: its opinion based on how sometimes the defendant behaves throughout

727
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 3: the course of this trial. And so Trump is going

728
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 3: to be being stared at by jurors who hold his

729
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 3: potential future freedom in their hands all day and then

730
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Speaker 3: is he going to get on I don't know what

731
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 3: the plan is going to be. Is he going to

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Speaker 3: get on his plane and fly and do rallies? Because

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Speaker 3: the big success I would say of the Trump twenty

734
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Speaker 3: sixteen and twenty twenty campaign was these big, huge rallies

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Speaker 3: where they found tons of new voters and were able

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Speaker 3: to mobilize them. How do you do that if you're

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Speaker 3: on trial in South Florida.

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Speaker 2: I will say this because I saw it up close

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Speaker 2: and personal as a much maligned and ambushed conservative at

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Speaker 2: CNN in the election year. One re one thing that

741
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Speaker 2: I don't think was taken into account was Trump was.

742
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Speaker 5: Able to jiu jitsu the Democrat corporate media in twenty

743
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Speaker 5: six team into endless coverage of him because they thought

744
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 5: it was a joke.

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00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 2: You know, they thought it was there's that Selena Zito

746
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 2: line that they took him, you know, literally but not seriously.

747
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,280
Speaker 2: And they should have taken him seriously, but not literally.

748
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,720
Speaker 2: They figured, oh, we'll just put this up on the air.

749
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:25,359
Speaker 2: CNN was running Trump rallies and because they got great

750
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 2: ratings and they thought, look at our audience they love

751
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,800
Speaker 2: is this clown this joke?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

753
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 2: You mean the one who's going to actually crush Hillary

754
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 2: the most heralded handed to candidate and history. That didn't happen.

755
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 2: In twenty twenty. They learned a lesson. Now, I know

756
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 2: it was COVID as well, but they weren't going to

757
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 2: do the same thing. They realized amplifying the Trump message

758
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 2: on their air waves played to Trump's strengths. So how

759
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 2: does this play now? I would have said, oh, well,

760
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 2: at least he's on he'd be able to be on

761
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 2: Twitter and be totally free on Twitter. He's not on Twitter.

762
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,879
Speaker 2: So even the media game for Trump here is he's

763
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 2: not doing a lot of Fox either. I mean, he

764
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 2: did Shawn Show recently, but he's not on Fox the

765
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,919
Speaker 2: same way he was before. So his message getting out

766
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 2: there again. This is all evolving in its early but

767
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 2: it's different than it was in twenty sixteen. CN is

768
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 2: not going to be running Trump rally night after night.

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Speaker 2: I can't assure you of that.

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Speaker 3: Will they have cameras in the courtroom. The general rule

771
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Speaker 3: is no. There are certain exceptions, I would argue, I

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Speaker 3: bet you would agree that given the consequential nature of

773
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:38,760
Speaker 3: who is on trial, I would argue that one hundred

774
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 3: percent there should be cameras in this courtroom. If so,

775
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,919
Speaker 3: the Trump trial, I mean, what would we do, even

776
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,760
Speaker 3: Buck on this show. I feel like we would cover

777
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 3: a lot of that live right and analyze it in

778
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 3: real time. I guarantee you Fox News is going to

779
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 3: put it on. I bet CNN and MSNBC.

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00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,879
Speaker 2: Would even cover that trial. Trump, do you think he'll

781
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 2: Clay Clay? Do you think he'll take the stand in

782
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 2: his own defense? That's what I'm That's where I'm kind

783
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 2: of going here. But I think he could. I think

784
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 2: he's Trump and he will talk.

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Speaker 3: To tens of millions of people from the witness stand,

786
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 3: and arguably MSNBC and CNN would have to cover that.

787
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 3: So again, the general rule is in federal trials. This

788
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 3: is a great question for somebody who is at Court

789
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,720
Speaker 3: TV if we have anybody in the audience who knows

790
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 3: the rules apply here. But I think this could be

791
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 3: oj Simpson. Like you know, we had the Murdoch trial

792
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 3: that was on. There's been a lot of different than

793
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 3: Johnny depp Amber Heard trial. There's been a lot of

794
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 3: these things that were wildly popular because of the compelling

795
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 3: drama to put it on. I think Buck, that this

796
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 3: could be an unprecedented opportunity in some ways, just saying

797
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 3: for Trump to get his message out there to your

798
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 3: point by taking the stand. But also, is he going

799
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,240
Speaker 3: to do a press conference every day after the trial

800
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:02,240
Speaker 3: and the courthouse steps?

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Speaker 2: I think, I think he will do something. I mean,

802
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 2: he's going to but this is kind of what I mean.

803
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 2: There's going to be a reshaping of the media platform here,

804
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 2: the fire hose of information in a way that maybe

805
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 2: we haven't seen it yet, but Trump will figure something out.

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00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 4: I think.

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Speaker 2: Here, all right, let's we'll get some calls here eight

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Speaker 2: hundred two two eighty two through waiting, stay with us

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Speaker 2: Alternative Investment Association. He's also now the author of a

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Speaker 2: new book, Money Shackles. What are the money shackles? Well,

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Speaker 2: these shackles represent financial hamstrings that Americans have to deal

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Speaker 2: with over and over again. Let me give you an example.

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Speaker 2: Go to school, get in debt, buy a car, get

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Speaker 1: The Torch of Truth past and still lit every day.

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Speaker 1: The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 2: Third hour Clay and Buck kicks off right now. Everybody,

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Speaker 2: thanks for being with us here on this Friday. And

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Speaker 2: I had mentioned this, I think actually even yesterday on

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Speaker 2: the show, but the situation not just at the border,

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Speaker 2: but for a lot of cities across the country because

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Speaker 2: of the wide open border, continues to be well, let's

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Speaker 2: just say, very challenging for some of these democrat alities

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Speaker 2: out there, people who in other times, at other places

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Speaker 2: would indicate no doubt that they would want as many

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Speaker 2: illegal immigrants as possible because what is central to the

839
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Speaker 2: Democrat narrative is that illegal immigrants are just as beneficial

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Speaker 2: to the economy and just as legally deserving of everything, healthcare,

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00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 2: and school as legal immigrants. This is what Democrats now believe.

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Speaker 2: This essential to the Democrat Party view of day to

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Speaker 2: day life in America. One of the challenges that you

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Speaker 2: come across when you're trying to have a conversation about

845
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 2: illegal immigration in America today is that the Democrat Party,

846
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 2: the left wing media that supports and amplifies all their messages,

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00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 2: they will constantly talk about this but never never admit

848
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Speaker 2: that there's any downside whatsoever to unrestricted illegal immigration in

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00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 2: the United States, which is what we have right now.

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00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:02,760
Speaker 2: And so one of the realities that has now unfolded

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00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 2: is that some of these cities that have taken these

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00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 2: individuals in from the border who have entered illegally and

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Speaker 2: are now on some sort of internal parole, effectively before

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00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,720
Speaker 2: they're supposed to show up in court, it will be years.

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00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 2: The whole thing is just is really a scam. The

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00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 2: idea of being that they're supposed to get status through asylum,

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Speaker 2: but they're not going to get asylum status because they're

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00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,760
Speaker 2: not asylum seekers. They're people who've skipped the legal immigration

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00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 2: process entirely and just want to stay in America. And

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Speaker 2: we should always remember and Clay, I'm sure you remember

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Speaker 2: this in the last Democrat debate in twenty twenty, I

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00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 2: should say the last election in the first Democrat debate,

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Speaker 2: when they said, on a stage full of Democrats that

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Speaker 2: included I believe Kamala Harris and Joe Biden, should illegal

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Speaker 2: immigrants get taxpayer funded healthcare? They all raise their hands.

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Speaker 2: So you come to the country illegally, you're entitled the

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Speaker 2: free health care. And that's just the way it is

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Speaker 2: with the Democrats. There are costs that are associated with this.

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Speaker 2: There are downsides, There are realities, economic realities first and

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Speaker 2: foremost that people are starting to have to understand. They're

871
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Speaker 2: seeing it play out. Eric Adams, the mayor of New

872
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Speaker 2: York City, has recently said this about the illegals in

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Speaker 2: his city.

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Speaker 6: Play two do we stay this several months ago that

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Speaker 6: we have reached full capacity, and that full capacity was verbalized,

876
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Speaker 6: and now New York is just going to be visually actualized.

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Speaker 6: We're going to see how much of our cup has

878
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Speaker 6: basically run over. We have no more room in the city,

879
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Speaker 6: and we need help.

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Speaker 2: They've taken in I don't know at this point, let's

881
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,359
Speaker 2: say between sixty and one hundred thousand illegals in New

882
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Speaker 2: York City something like that, newly arrived and clay. The

883
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Speaker 2: New York City has eight point five million people roughly

884
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Speaker 2: now it's probably eight point six million. But beyond that,

885
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Speaker 2: they're spending more money on these illegal immigrants. I think

886
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Speaker 2: it's one point eight billion that they're expected to spend

887
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Speaker 2: on their care, you know, housing, food, everything else, healthcare.

888
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Speaker 2: They're spending more money on illegal immigrants in New York

889
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Speaker 2: City than they are on the FDNY, on the fire department.

890
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Speaker 2: That's wild already in one year. That's where we are.

891
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Speaker 3: And I just keep to me the southern border situation

892
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Speaker 3: is a function of the incentives.

893
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Speaker 2: And if you are.

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Speaker 3: Poor in Latin America, or if you're poor anywhere else

895
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Speaker 3: around the world, and you think you can get to

896
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Speaker 3: Latin America to try to walk across our southern border,

897
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Speaker 3: imagine what those phone calls are like back home. Because

898
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Speaker 3: it really is the land of milk and honey. Most

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Speaker 3: people who are coming into the United States rapidly have

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Speaker 3: a better quality of life here than they do where

901
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Speaker 3: they can't from even before they get in any way

902
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Speaker 3: kind of stabilized.

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Speaker 2: Just think about this.

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Speaker 3: If I told you right now, everybody out there listening,

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Speaker 3: if I told you you could make ten times the

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Speaker 3: money that you make now, and all you had to

907
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Speaker 3: do was go get into Canada, what percentage of our

908
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Speaker 3: audience do you think would be willing to try to

909
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Speaker 3: go to Canada? Pretty substantial. I mean if you told

910
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Speaker 3: most people you can make ten x what you make

911
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Speaker 3: now and all you have to do is go to

912
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Speaker 3: go to Canada, I think a huge percentage people would go.

913
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Speaker 3: That's the incentive structure that we are creating. And so

914
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Speaker 3: what's happening is the incentives are so incredible that you

915
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Speaker 3: had the mayor Eric Adams of the world Glory Lightfoot

916
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Speaker 3: before she got fired. Muriel Bowser, I believe, is still

917
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Speaker 3: the mayor in Washington, DC. They're all waving their arms

918
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Speaker 3: saying we welcome you. Because it's democratic orthodoxy that you

919
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 3: have to say. Basically, immigrants are the greatest people who

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Speaker 3: have ever existed in the history of the world.

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Speaker 2: And actually specifically illegal immigrants. To be clear, illegal immigrants

922
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Speaker 2: are the best of all the possible and actually better

923
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Speaker 2: than Americans. They're harder working and better than Americans are.

924
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Speaker 2: That is what Democrats believe.

925
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Speaker 3: And now they finally are recognizing that they don't have

926
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Speaker 3: the resources to be the so called sanctuary cities, and

927
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Speaker 3: that there are consequences associated with you and me and

928
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Speaker 3: every single taxpayer out there. This is why Buck, I

929
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Speaker 3: know you left New York City, but this is why.

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Speaker 3: If I made my salary right now, and I've lived

931
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Speaker 3: in California, or I lived in Illinois, or I lived

932
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Speaker 3: in New York every day that I woke up, I

933
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Speaker 3: would be furious that I am paying fifteen percent basically

934
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Speaker 3: of what I make for the privilege to live in

935
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Speaker 3: that state. Or I could be in Texas, Florida, Tennessee,

936
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Speaker 3: states that I know, I think I agree with their

937
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 3: leadership more on a political basis, and make fifteen percent more.

938
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Speaker 2: Buck.

939
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Speaker 3: This is I don't think we talk enough about the

940
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Speaker 3: degree to which New York, California, and Illinois, in particular

941
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Speaker 3: basically Chicago, New York City, La San Francisco, they have

942
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Speaker 3: so many high earning people that are paying the taxes

943
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Speaker 3: that allow those cities to function in any kind of way.

944
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Speaker 3: And the more money you make, those guys and girls

945
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Speaker 3: the angrier. I think they're getting at the dysfunction that

946
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Speaker 3: they see around them.

947
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Speaker 2: Why would you.

948
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Speaker 3: Stay I mean, I mean unless you have like some

949
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Speaker 3: physical connection that does not allow you to do your

950
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Speaker 3: job in those states, It boggles my mind that anyone

951
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Speaker 3: would be willing, in particular California, which has every advantage

952
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 3: in the most beautiful place almost in the world, Southern California.

953
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:05,320
Speaker 3: But people are finally just saying, I can't do it anymore.

954
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Speaker 2: And you know, Clay, it's we didn't get to this yesterday.

955
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Speaker 2: I meant to mention it. I'll mention it today. You're

956
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 2: talking about the taxes in New York City, and this

957
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Speaker 2: is this is meant to be a stand in the

958
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 2: same things, the same kind of expenses, the same decisions

959
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:23,439
Speaker 2: by the political class are being made in DC, Chicago, La,

960
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:29,240
Speaker 2: San France, Seattle, you know, Houston, Atlanta, go down the list.

961
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Speaker 2: All the same kinds of calculations being made in these

962
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 2: places all the time. Democrats are in charge. Their ideology

963
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,799
Speaker 2: is what is pushing all of this. But in New

964
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Speaker 2: York they are paying thirteen million dollars about ten grand

965
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 2: each to protesters who were arrested in twenty twenty during

966
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Speaker 2: Black Lives Matter riots, protests, whatever depends on which one

967
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 2: we're talking about. So now they're just handing out ten

968
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 2: thousand dollars to people because in some cases they were kettled,

969
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 2: which is when police say you gotta clear the area,

970
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:03,919
Speaker 2: you gotta clear the area, and if you don't, they

971
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 2: effectively swooping around and kind of trying to describe it

972
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 2: like like lasso in or you know, use They it's

973
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 2: like a kettle, you know, they say it because like

974
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 2: a kettle of fish, they kind of wrap around everybody

975
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 2: and then they start making arrests and people are getting

976
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Speaker 2: arrested for People are getting arrested for all kinds of things,

977
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Speaker 2: including throwing rocks at cops and getting all crazy on

978
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 2: the streets. Now they're just handing out I mean, ten

979
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:33,919
Speaker 2: thousand dollars to yeah, hundreds of them they were held

980
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 2: too long or whatever. What message does that send to people?

981
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:40,360
Speaker 2: I mean, these PLM riots were nothing but destructive. It

982
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 2: was idiotic. What was going on in the streets of

983
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 2: New York City. I was there. They helped no one.

984
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 2: They made everything worse. They ruined businesses, they broke in

985
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:52,760
Speaker 2: and looted things, and we're now not now tax dollars

986
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:55,359
Speaker 2: at New Yorkers is going to pay them off because

987
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 2: they were in custody for an hour too long or something.

988
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:02,800
Speaker 2: They all should have been prosecuted for every single infraction committed. Instead,

989
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 2: all the infractions are let go and now they're getting checks.

990
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 3: This is why I think if we had an honest media,

991
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:16,320
Speaker 3: which we fundamentally do not, there would be a massive

992
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 3: examination of the money being spent on January sixth prosecutions,

993
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 3: in particular in Washington, d C. Buck and all of

994
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 3: the felonies being dropped in DC. The only people getting

995
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 3: prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law in all

996
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:34,760
Speaker 3: of the District of Columbia, our nation's capital, are people

997
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:36,800
Speaker 3: who walked into the capitol on January sixth.

998
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:38,439
Speaker 2: Everybody else.

999
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 3: The data reflects the district attorneys there are dropping almost

1000
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 3: all felony charges against people and reducing them to misdemeanors.

1001
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 3: And the crime rate, not surprisingly, is skyrocketed in Washington, DC.

1002
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:55,399
Speaker 3: Actual violent crime not January sixth, mostly mostly people who

1003
00:56:55,400 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 3: did not create massive violent acts. And that's what Kamala

1004
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:04,759
Speaker 3: Harris you're talking about. The BLM protest. She raised money

1005
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 3: to bail people out. Imagine if Trump had what the

1006
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 3: media would say. And frankly, I think this is one

1007
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 3: area where Trump has been weak. I wish that he

1008
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 3: had been more aggressive in trying to get the January

1009
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 3: sixth political prisoners adequate legal representation.

1010
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 2: He raised a lot of money for that issue, and

1011
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:25,919
Speaker 2: then until the twenty twenty two elections, did not give

1012
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 2: money to their defense. And that's from Julie Kelly. So

1013
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 2: I don't need anybody emailing me to say that that's

1014
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 2: not true. It is true.

1015
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 3: Nothing was done for their defense for the funds raised

1016
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 3: until the twenty twenty election, and people started saying, hey,

1017
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 3: what about the two hundred and fifty million dollars that

1018
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 3: was raised, Yeah, twenty twenty two. Yeah, I mean I

1019
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 3: donated money directly myself to those January sixth the political prisoners,

1020
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:48,920
Speaker 3: because I believe everybody deserves the best possible legal representation

1021
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 3: they can get. Those guys, some of them are still

1022
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 3: in prison since, I mean for years now, and they

1023
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 3: still haven't stood trial.

1024
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 2: What you've seen is that some how the Democrats, the

1025
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 2: same way that they have been able to corrode and

1026
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 2: overtake so many institutions because of their the Soros backed

1027
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 2: Prosecutor plan, for example, and really just all of its

1028
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 2: ideological offshoots. It's not all just the Soros prosecutors, but

1029
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 2: there's a lot of them, but similar minded left wing activists.

1030
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 2: What you've seen is that they punish lack of obedience

1031
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 2: to the state severely, and they punish people hurting their

1032
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 2: fellow human beings in these cities lightly, if at all.

1033
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 2: And that's how they use the power they are given

1034
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 2: as prosecutors and as authorities meant to enforce the law

1035
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 2: and to keep us safe. You're in much better shape

1036
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 2: going before a prosecutor saying you know that if you

1037
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:51,440
Speaker 2: stab somebody during a robbery, then you are if you

1038
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 2: know you are involved in January sixth, or the elector's

1039
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 2: scheme or anything else, the maximum for those people. But

1040
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 2: the person who stabs an innocent person on the street,

1041
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 2: you know, maybe they had a rough go social justice,

1042
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 2: maybe they didn't have a nice mom and dad growing up.

1043
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 2: We don't want to punish them too harshly. Maybe we

1044
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 2: give them another chance. Maybe it's a rest number one hundred,

1045
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:12,440
Speaker 2: and we're gonna wait till the rest number one oh

1046
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 2: one before we actually have any consequences for them. This

1047
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 2: is what you see in all these cities. Everybody's aware

1048
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 2: of it. And the fact that Democrats haven't paid a

1049
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 2: bigger price in elections local all the way up to

1050
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Speaker 2: the presidency is Honestly, it's just enraging. It's just mind

1051
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 2: blowing and upsetting. Yes, and oh man, we got so

1052
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Speaker 2: much still to talk about it. Even though it's Friday.

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Speaker 3: On nine to eleven, twenty nine hundred and seventy seven

1054
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Speaker 1: Keeping it real, keeping it honest. Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton