1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: Spoke of feeling resentment as they watched the government ease 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: the transition of large numbers of asylum seekers into the 3 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:11,159 Speaker 1: US by giving them access to work permits, IDs, and 4 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: in some cities, spending millions of dollars to provide them 5 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: with food and shelter. Melisa, you and your colleagues spoke 6 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: with dozens of long time immigrants, undocumented immigrants, and legal 7 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: immigrants in the Midwest and along. 8 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 2: The Texas border. 9 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 1: How deep is that frustration? 10 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 3: You know, Almost everybody that I spoke with in my 11 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:33,239 Speaker 3: reporting and then in my personal life I live here 12 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 3: in Chicago, who is Latino, whose parents are immigrant, who 13 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 3: are immigrants themselves, either expressed this resentment or have relatives 14 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 3: who feel this way. 15 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 2: So I think it's pretty overwhelming. 16 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 3: It's not the driving force for every single person I 17 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 3: talked to in terms of who they ultimately decided to 18 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 3: vote for, but I think it's something that everybody is 19 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 3: very intimately familiar with, This feeling of this new group 20 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 3: of people got something that we didn't get when we 21 00:00:59,240 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 3: got here. 22 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: Are you surprised at the fact that your article, which 23 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 1: highlights something so obvious for many for others, seems like 24 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: such a surprise. 25 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 2: You know, I'm really glad you asked that. 26 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 3: I think about that a lot, because when I talk 27 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:16,759 Speaker 3: to people who look like me, who look like us, 28 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 3: then it's not a surprise. But you talk to white 29 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 3: folks and they are really surprised. A lot of Democrats, 30 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 3: a lot of liberals feel this way. I think you 31 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 3: just have to go outside and talk to an immigrant, 32 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 3: though it's I think it does speak to like a 33 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 3: bit of a disconnect between kind of like what the 34 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:36,839 Speaker 3: party rhetoric is and what people on the ground are saying. 35 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 3: And I'm talking to people who are immigrants almost every day, 36 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 3: so it's not a surprise, but I think a lot 37 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 3: of people are just completely out of touch with what 38 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:46,839 Speaker 3: regular folks are saying. 39 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: How do immigrants see Trump's promise of the largest deportation 40 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: operation in US history, regardless of where they stand on 41 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: the differences between immigration and migrants. 42 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 4: Well, I think for a long time there was a 43 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 4: general tolerance for irregular immigration in the country, and obviously 44 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 4: Latino communities. 45 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 5: Perhaps had an even greater tolerance than more mainstream communities. However, 46 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 5: I think what was different this time is number one, 47 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 5: the volume, and we've seen those images of so many 48 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:28,959 Speaker 5: people crossing the border. People really felt overwhelmed by those 49 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 5: images and the number two. 50 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:35,519 Speaker 4: You all just discussed this issue of the benefits programs. 51 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 4: I really do get a sense that those who came 52 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 4: perhaps decades ago, even if they came through an irregular process, 53 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 4: felt that these days the benefits. 54 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 2: Are just too many. I even hear this. 55 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 4: In asylum and exile communities like the Cuban American community, 56 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 4: where people say, well, you know, the benefits are just 57 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 4: too generous. 58 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 2: Now people are coming to the country and they want 59 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 2: to work hard and struggle like we did. You know, 60 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 2: we can understand that. 61 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 4: But the generous benefits programs, the accommodations, I think at 62 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 4: a time of high inflation, that really cause a lot 63 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 4: of tension and opposition to illegal immigration to emerge and 64 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 4: to grow. 65 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 6: This is the primal screen of a dying regime. Pray 66 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 6: for our enemies, because we're going to medieval on these people. 67 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 6: You've not got a free shot. All these networks lying 68 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 6: about the people, the people have had a belly full 69 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 6: of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I 70 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 6: know you try to do everything in the world to 71 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 6: stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's 72 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 6: going to happen. And where do people like that go 73 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 6: to share the big. 74 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 7: Line mega media. 75 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 8: I wish in my soul, I wish that any of 76 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 8: these people had a conscience. 77 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 6: Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? 78 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 2: If that answer is to save. 79 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 6: My country, this country will be safe. 80 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 7: War Room. 81 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 6: Here's your host, Stephen k Ban. It's Wednesday, twenty seven November, 82 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,239 Speaker 6: in the Year of Our Lord, twenty twenty four. Welcome 83 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 6: to the late afternoon, early evening edition of the War Room. 84 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 6: So right there you have Melissa Sanchez and Micah Rosenberg 85 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 6: from Pro Publica. And pro Publica is not it's not 86 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 6: a pro Trump, it's not a pro Trump publication. It's sponsored. 87 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 6: I think sours a bunch of nefarious bionaires. They used 88 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 6: to be just a research industry. I think the actually 89 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 6: kind of a little media company. Now. The headline of 90 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 6: this piece, this report is immigrants resentment over new arrivals 91 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 6: helped boost Trump's popularity with Latino voters. I kid you not. 92 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 6: This is from a left wing organization. Melissa Sanchez and 93 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 6: Micah Rosenberg. Let me repeat the headline in if Grayce 94 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 6: and Moe, because this is one of the signals, not 95 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 6: the noise immigrants resentment over new arrivals helped boost Trump's 96 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 6: popularity with Latino voters. We said this over and over again, 97 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 6: and I think the damning thing right there on the 98 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 6: MSNBC piece. And think about it, folks, they've buried this 99 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 6: a on early in the afternoon on the Wednesday before Thanksgiving. Yeah, 100 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 6: you know, not many people in the airport are in cars. 101 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 6: So the viewership across the board except for the war 102 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 6: room is down dramatically, and obviously in the MSNBC it's 103 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 6: getting close to zero. You won't see this in primetime 104 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 6: like on Rachel Mattow. Will not have these people on 105 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 6: next week in primetime, highly unlikely. And what they say 106 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:02,799 Speaker 6: just makes sense that the Hispanic, the Latino and Hispanic community, 107 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 6: they're American citizens and they feel put upon when you 108 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 6: have all these illegal aliens showing up as crime written 109 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 6: and they're they're they're messing up to schools, in the 110 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 6: hospitals and healthcare service. Of course they're American citizens, and 111 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 6: Trump knew this. This is why we're winning South Texas, 112 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 6: this is why we're winning the Rio Grand Valley. This 113 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 6: is why we some so much time focus on the 114 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 6: Rio Grand Valley as kind of like a canary in 115 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 6: the mine shaft. This is a hugely important story. But 116 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 6: this is why I also go back and I say, hey, 117 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 6: I think we just should focus at least initially and 118 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 6: with I don't know, eight or ten million illegal aliens here, 119 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 6: just on the time period I'm gonna give you, and 120 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 6: that would be starting in the afternoon of the twentieth 121 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 6: of January of twenty twenty one, the moment Biden took 122 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 6: over to the moment Biden Lee's which is high noon 123 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 6: on the twentieth of twenty twenty five. In those four years, 124 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,359 Speaker 6: let's figure ure out how many came across illegally on 125 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 6: his watch who are essentially invited over and they're the 126 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 6: ones that have to go obviously the criminals first, but 127 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 6: that would reinforce also with the Hispanical Latino community. We're 128 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 6: not going to go back into the early points of time. 129 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 6: And I'm not advocating for amnesty, far be it. But 130 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 6: I'm saying, Leo, we've got so many problems right now. 131 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 6: Let's let's tre oe some problems. Let's take the ten 132 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 6: million here on Biden's watch. It just came here that 133 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 6: the Hispanic and Latino community and the Black community are 134 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 6: supporting us, and they wanted to go home to do 135 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 6: that makes sense. They're very cool with that. Do we 136 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 6: got that right there? They're telling you, and this is 137 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 6: how we do you know, Rachel Matta is all about 138 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 6: the autocratic breakthrough. Well, this is how this is how 139 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 6: we have a democratic breakthrough, because they can't get over 140 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 6: the fact they can't get over the fact that we've 141 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 6: built a coil that has African American men and. 142 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 2: It has. 143 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 6: Hispanic families and Hispanic men, and Pro Publica once again 144 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 6: has just told you. It was a fascinating segment on MSNBC. 145 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 6: What I think it was. Melissa Sanchez said, Hey, because 146 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 6: the host is and there going, well, we've heard all 147 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 6: the time that they were against Trump, that the Hispanic 148 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 6: voters against Trump, they didn't like Trump, and that this 149 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 6: huge thing about the mass deportation was going to flip it. 150 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 6: And her answer was pretty blunt. She says, Hey, I'm 151 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 6: not so sure any of these credential class progressive Democrats 152 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 6: have ever gone out and talked to Hispanic citizen. They 153 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 6: haven't gone in the community, they haven't gone the neighborhoods, 154 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 6: that's one hundred percent right. This was President Trump knew. 155 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 6: This is one of the most significant events that have 156 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 6: driven this new coalition. This is monumental. This is how 157 00:08:56,320 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 6: you build a winning coalition, like in nineteen thirty two, 158 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 6: like FDRs in the in the beginning phase of the 159 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 6: stock of the stock market crash, the great depression that 160 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 6: they formed and essentially governed for I don't know fifty 161 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 6: or sixty years or longer. President Trump listened to these people, 162 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 6: the war room listened to these people. We would say 163 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 6: over and over and over again that this was all doable. 164 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 6: Now here's how you have to deliver. And I'm not 165 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 6: saying I'm not getting soft. I'm trying to say, hey, 166 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 6: let's try to think this droom be humane. This is 167 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 6: all this loose talk about the military. We just had 168 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 6: Sheriff mac On here yesterday. They said there's more than 169 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 6: enough constitutional sheriffs, and there's more enough jail space to 170 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,319 Speaker 6: kind of help hold people temporarily. You don't need to 171 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 6: build FEMA camps, and you don't need the military. Military 172 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 6: should be sent to the border to seal the border. 173 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 6: We don't need the military from Unfortument. We might need 174 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 6: the military I'm not saying it's one hundred percent out. 175 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 6: We might need the military, but I don't think we 176 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 6: need it first. And this is where I'm an advocate 177 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 6: of the president to go to and I'm picking up 178 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 6: a random place. McAllen, Texas, the capital of the Rio 179 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 6: Grande Valley. Go down there and let's let's have a 180 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 6: mini summit. Let's have a summit, Let's have a working 181 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 6: group meeting, whatever you want to call it. Let's get 182 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 6: the frontline nations around the table, including Panama. And I 183 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 6: think Panama. We had assist Panama in building a wall 184 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:40,439 Speaker 6: that blocks off the Dairying Gap. How many times of 185 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 6: berkwam in Oscar Blue Ramirez and Michael Jahn and a 186 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 6: dozens and Dug Laura Lumer gone to the Dairying Gap. 187 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 6: Going through the Darying Gap, you see how dangerous the 188 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 6: Darying Gap is. That that connective tissue from Columbia to 189 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 6: Panama that really connects Latin America to Central America. Then 190 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 6: the Cartel Highway all the way up. The caravans always 191 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 6: start down near there. We've covered this for years. People 192 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 6: have put themselves in harm's way for years. We have 193 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 6: documented this for years Real America's voice and the investigative 194 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:21,439 Speaker 6: apparatus in Berkwam and Oscar Blue and Yon and many many, 195 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 6: many many more. Bensman, So we know kind of what 196 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 6: went on. And that's why I say, let's get very tight. 197 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 6: We don't need it. And so because MSM and say, hey, 198 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 6: you're gonna go get grandma, You're gonna get this, we could. 199 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 6: We'll figure that out later. It shouldn't be lost anybody. 200 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 6: They're voting for you now and their grandchildren are definitely 201 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,839 Speaker 6: voting for you. Let's get what the problem is the problem. 202 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 6: The immediate problem we have is that I'm picking a 203 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:54,079 Speaker 6: number ten million illegal alien evators that were invited here. 204 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 6: It's not these people's fault. They did what you and 205 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 6: I would do if we're living in poverty. And we 206 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 6: hear that Biden is Trump has gone. Biden's inviting everybody 207 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 6: into the country and you can stay in the United 208 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:09,559 Speaker 6: States of America. Hell, I'm getting El Norte and I'm 209 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 6: bringing I'm bringing people a ready and you're all going 210 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 6: to go. They have to go home. We have to 211 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 6: deport all of them, all of them. And the arguments 212 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 6: they make now, the arguments they make now are now, oh, 213 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 6: the tariffs are going to be inflationary. But also also 214 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 6: they take the exact Wall Street pitch right out of 215 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 6: the book and say, well, if you send the illegal 216 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 6: aliens home, is going to cost more to pick your fruit, 217 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 6: more to clean your house, more to build a home. Well, hey, 218 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 6: I'm not so sure about that. But maybe I'm not 219 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 6: so sure, but at least the other work is done 220 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 6: by American citizens, not by people here illegally. You can't 221 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 6: incentivize this. And now we know from Pro Publica, and 222 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 6: they go out of the way to say we're definitive 223 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 6: when we do something. They're not really a news publication media, 224 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 6: although they do do a lot of media. What they 225 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 6: are is really a research a left wing research group. 226 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 6: And the headline says it all. The headline is. The 227 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 6: headline is all about how Hispanics here, immigrants resentment over 228 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 6: new arrivals help boost Trump's popularity with Latino voters. It 229 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 6: answers itself. Okay, we're here on a Wednesday, it's the 230 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 6: EVA Thanksgiving. There's a lot going on. Everything's taking it 231 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 6: down one notch. But there's so much going on behind 232 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:38,199 Speaker 6: the scenes. We're gonna try and get you up to 233 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:43,079 Speaker 6: their over I want to thank Birch Gold, Birch Goldgroup. 234 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 6: Go to birch Gold dot com. Slash span at the 235 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 6: end of the Dollar Empire, do some weekend reading a 236 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 6: homework assignment. Okay, end of the Dollar Empire. Get up 237 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:56,959 Speaker 6: to speed on what we're talking about. Particularly understand that 238 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,599 Speaker 6: racial matter and producer a clueless would not try to 239 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 6: destroy the dollar, ma'am. We're trying to save the dollar 240 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:05,839 Speaker 6: because it is the prime reserve currency. Maybe we should 241 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 6: have a debate about that. I'm open for that. Don't 242 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 6: know if we should be, but I'd like to kind 243 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 6: of decide not to. We've got to kind of ease 244 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 6: out of it. Just can't drop it right away. We'll 245 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 6: turn up. We'll turn up like Gargentina before Mille. Okay, 246 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 6: short commercial break, Nicole Newgrady, Modern day holy Wood takes. 247 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 7: Its own talks one. 248 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 9: I'm wrestling with a theory right now that this may 249 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 9: have been an unwinnable race for Democrats period. Vice President 250 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 9: Harris was a fantastic candidate. May not have mattered who 251 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 9: the candidate was because if you look at a post 252 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 9: pandemic world economy seventy to eighty percent of leading countries 253 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 9: around the world, whether they're measured by being a leading 254 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 9: economy or developed democracy, in the last two years have 255 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 9: thrown out their incumbents. And it may just be that 256 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 9: season where Biden, a Harris, a Shapiro or anybody could 257 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 9: not have toppled at Donald Trump simply because we're in 258 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 9: a post pandemic world economy. But the other theory that 259 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 9: I wrestle with as well is the paradox at democrats 260 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 9: space is they are often, if not always, burdened with 261 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 9: having to be the responsible party when Republicans refuse to 262 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 9: be so. On the trans issue, It's not that Democrats 263 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 9: are racing to embrace the trans lifestyle. 264 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 2: It's just that they. 265 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 9: Respect it and they understand that trans people deserve the 266 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 9: same defensive liberty and personal freedom that every other American does, 267 00:15:57,720 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 9: when Republicans aren't willing to give it to them. 268 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 2: On the economy and. 269 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 9: On taxes, consider the message of Biden and Harris, if 270 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 9: a family makes less than four hundred thousand dollars, your 271 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 9: taxes will not go up because they're being responsible about 272 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 9: the debt and the deficit. 273 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 2: Republicans are walking around. 274 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 9: Saying we're going to give you a tax cut anywhere 275 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 9: you want it, from corporate taxes to no tax on tips, 276 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 9: to no tax on overtime, you name it, We're cutting 277 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 9: your taxes. Biden and Harris were saying, they'll stay the same. 278 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 9: You don't have to worry. They won't go up on regulations. 279 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 9: Republicans are saying, we're not going to have regulations. We're 280 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 9: not going to have lockdowns for healthcare. We're not going 281 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 9: to have regulations on labor or healthcare, or energy or 282 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 9: the environment, because you. 283 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 2: Deserve the personal freedom. 284 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 9: Democrats are saying government has a responsibility to provide for 285 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 9: the collective for all people by putting responsible regulations in 286 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 9: place that then holds a mirror up to us as 287 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 9: a culture. 288 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 2: Are we willing to recognize that we actually have to 289 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 2: be responsible as well? 290 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 9: Because the paradox that Democrats face, they're bearing the burden 291 00:16:56,400 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 9: right now of being the responsible political party at a 292 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 9: time when so many Americans are embracing irresponsibility, and Donald 293 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 9: Trump is feeding the affirmation to those Americans right now. 294 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 9: We were saying, I don't care about the country, I 295 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 9: don't care about my neighbor. I just care about me 296 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 9: and what you're going to do for me, and they're 297 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 9: hearing it. 298 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 2: From Donald Trump, and I think. 299 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 8: They're missing it from Democrats, and I'd be the devil 300 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 8: on everybody's shoulder the day before Thanksgiving. Maybe the Democrats 301 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 8: shouldn't be the responsible grown ups for a year or so. 302 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 2: I just think it. 303 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:29,400 Speaker 8: It's something to think about, because to me, it gets 304 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 8: back in twenty twelve. It's part of that RNC autopsy. 305 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 8: We suggested how the Republicans should be more compassionate again 306 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 8: and expand we talk to immigrants and minorities and gay 307 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:42,120 Speaker 8: people and women, and then Donald Trump did the opposite 308 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 8: of that in one So a lot of times all 309 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 8: the geniuses on these shows don't really exactly know what 310 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 8: the right thing to do is in the future. But 311 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 8: here's one thing we do know that we've went through 312 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 8: about five, six, seven, eight straight change elections in a row. 313 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 8: And if the country and the people that aren't as 314 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,439 Speaker 8: engaged in aren't following politics every day, are unhappy with 315 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 8: how they're being governed, they're happy to throw the bums out. 316 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 8: And Donald Trump has planned a lot of things that 317 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 8: I think would be disastrous for this country. And I 318 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 8: think that there's this big swath of voters out there 319 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 8: that might decide to just throw that bum out one 320 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 8: more time if they're given the opportunity to do so. 321 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 2: And to me, I think there's a lot of the reflection. 322 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:25,640 Speaker 8: The Democrats could do, and there's a big conversation about 323 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 8: the right way forward. 324 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 2: But Donald Trump failing is really probably the easiest path 325 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 2: back to success for the Democrats. 326 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 10: I mean, Tim just quickly the idea of this earnest 327 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,719 Speaker 10: and I totally respected. It's what you and I used 328 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 10: to do when we were on campaigns that lost. The 329 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 10: last time the Republicans lost, they could they had a coup. 330 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 10: Like the asymmetry is as stark now as it has 331 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 10: been in nine years. 332 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:54,159 Speaker 8: Yeah, they're putting on this hairshirt. I feel this way 333 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 8: as an never Trumper. I mean, how many times I 334 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 8: di I had to go around and I'm happy to 335 00:18:57,600 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 8: do it, but I feel it. I'm honest about it. 336 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 8: I feel shame. But it's been a decade, you know, 337 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 8: everybody can the Democrats do this and they whipped themselves 338 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 8: and they're like, oh, you know, if we would have 339 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 8: done this better, That's not what the Republicans are doing. 340 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 8: They're unapologetic about it, and they woke up the night 341 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 8: they tried to coup, and then when that didn't work 342 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 8: the next day, they went back and tried to do 343 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 8: everything possible to make Joe Biden a failed president. And 344 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,679 Speaker 8: unfortunately that nihilism worked. And I'm not saying that the 345 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 8: Democrats should be nihilist, but I am saying that maybe 346 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 8: you should learn that there's something to be learned from that. 347 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 6: Can I want to take a second. I want to 348 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 6: play Tams back in one minute. Just get Tim's ready 349 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 6: to go. You're talking about resilience, so right there, Blame 350 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 6: it on the voters. David Jolly a failed Republican. Were 351 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 6: all those are failed Republicans? David Jolly's a failed Republican congressman. 352 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 6: Nicole Wallace is a was a comms person in a 353 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 6: White House PreK sarity for a war criminals, the Cheney 354 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 6: Bush junta that lied to the American people got us 355 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 6: into a rack in Afghanistan so deep we couldn't get out. 356 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 6: And Tim Miller was the Tim Miller, he was the 357 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 6: pearls or Poucahs. He's the Tim was the comms director 358 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 6: for the RNC when I first started getting involved with 359 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:16,880 Speaker 6: Andrew in politics. But there's a lot of deep truth 360 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:21,400 Speaker 6: there after President Trump left on the twentieth. We didn't 361 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 6: curl up in a ball. This audience didn't curl up 362 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 6: in the fetal position, start sucking their thumb to want 363 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 6: a binkie. No, we went to work. We're resilient. We 364 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,400 Speaker 6: went to work. We knew the election had been stolen. 365 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 6: We went to work. And if you hadn't had the 366 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 6: folks at the Capitol, we would have had gone through 367 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 6: all the states and guess what, it would have gotten 368 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 6: kicked back into the House of Representatives as a contingent 369 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 6: election eventually, and we would have won, because President Trump 370 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 6: did win. But that didn't happen. But we were resilient, 371 00:20:55,240 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 6: tim We're not like Alec Baldwin and Sharon Stone went over. 372 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 6: We didn't run over to foreign countries to hide out 373 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,679 Speaker 6: and say we can't live in America anymore and criticize 374 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 6: American citizens. We're not like, uh, what George Clooney that 375 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 6: you know a coward hiding over in uh with the 376 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 6: other billionaires in northern had hiding up in northern Italy 377 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 6: near the tax haven or Switzerland to avoid American taxes. 378 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 6: Now we're resilience. We stood and fought and guess what 379 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:31,199 Speaker 6: we just won? I want to go back. Can I 380 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 6: play timoth Is this quite? This is a very important 381 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 6: part of history that I think it's important for you 382 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 6: to understand to see what the place is. Let's go 383 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 6: to play Tim at the beginning and tell Denver I'm 384 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:43,439 Speaker 6: going to jump in here. When I start talking, they 385 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 6: go ahead and stop. Let's go and play Tim Miller 386 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 6: from the beginning. 387 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 8: Can I be the devil on everybody's shoulder the day 388 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 8: before Thanksgiving? Maybe the Democrats shouldn't be the responsible grown 389 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 8: ups for a year or so. I just think it's 390 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 8: something to think about, because to me, I get some 391 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 8: back in one twelfth it's part of that RNC autopsy. 392 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 8: We suggested how the Republicans should be more compassionate again 393 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 8: and expand how we talked to immigrants and minorities and 394 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 8: gay people and women, and then Donald Trump did the 395 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 8: opposite of. 396 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 2: That in one. 397 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,239 Speaker 8: So a lot of times, all the geniuses on these 398 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 8: shows don't really exactly know what the right thing to 399 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 8: do is in the future. But here's one thing we 400 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 8: do now right that. 401 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 6: We went through a full stop. Okay, he talks about 402 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 6: and this is the beginning of the MAGA movement, Ladies 403 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:34,160 Speaker 6: and Gentlemen, begins right where Tim Miller says. He says 404 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:39,719 Speaker 6: the twenty twelve RNC autopsy. So let's go back to them, 405 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 6: because you're going to see the beginning of the MAGA 406 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 6: movement and beginning of President Trump. You had the Tea 407 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:47,400 Speaker 6: Party movement that came as very powerful, the twenty ten 408 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 6: mid This came after the two thousand and eight financial 409 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:54,640 Speaker 6: collapse and the defeat of McCain, but Sarah Palin was there. 410 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 6: McCain was terrible. But until the financial collapse that we're 411 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 6: kind of dead even with Obama because somebody knew who 412 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 6: Obama was. But people were voting for change because they 413 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,679 Speaker 6: knew something was wrong with the country, the direction of 414 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 6: the country, given the wars and the economics weren't working. 415 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:15,199 Speaker 6: He had the financial collapse. That's when Obama really spurted 416 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 6: ahead of McCain and one handling. Then because Obama hadn't 417 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 6: brought about change, he turned out to be not a populace, 418 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 6: not an anti war populatist. That was all phony. He 419 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,120 Speaker 6: got in there and on the surface was super progressive, 420 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 6: but he was just a neoliberal New yorkon and in fact, 421 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 6: his bailouts of Wall Street and his bailouts of corporate 422 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 6: America was sickening. In two thousand, everybody thought, oh gosh, 423 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 6: we can beat Obama, We can beat Obama. I actually 424 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 6: went around the country and made a film called The 425 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 6: Hope and the Change, and I just took independence and 426 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 6: Republicans that had voted for Obama that weren't going to 427 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,159 Speaker 6: vote for him again because he hadn't Brotney change in 428 00:23:56,200 --> 00:24:02,439 Speaker 6: four years, so they had they nominated Mitt Romney. What 429 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 6: a perfect change agent, Mitt Romney, and Mitt Romney got smoked, 430 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 6: didn't come close, got smoked. Paul Ryan was his VP. 431 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 6: And these guys were so cocky and so arrogant. All 432 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 6: the big donors, Paul Allen, all of them. They're all up, 433 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,360 Speaker 6: the Ricketts, the Mercers, they're all up at the Ritz 434 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 6: Carlton in Boston. They're all sitting there ready to think. 435 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,160 Speaker 6: And you know, as soon as the exit pose came out, 436 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 6: they realized, oh my god. Franklinz came in and gave 437 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 6: him a lecture, you should have treated Hispanic people better. 438 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,199 Speaker 6: And I once you remember and refer back to the 439 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 6: opening segment about what the Hispanic voters told you about 440 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 6: what really bothered them and why they're voting for Trump 441 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:52,199 Speaker 6: more than ever. So Mitt Romney got smoked, and of 442 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 6: course it had to be the voter's fault. Could have 443 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 6: been it could not have been the message. It could 444 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:01,479 Speaker 6: have so Riin's previous and I didn't really know right 445 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 6: stand he was the head of the RNC and uh 446 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 6: and okay, this is the let me jump here for 447 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 6: a second. I want to I want to take time 448 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,400 Speaker 6: to walk through this because it's quite important because it 449 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 6: gets to the beginning stages that the tea party kind 450 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 6: of fritted out MAGA. That guy named Donald Trump came 451 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 6: on the scene. It came around the scene called the 452 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:33,640 Speaker 6: twenty twelve RNC autopsy for why Romney lost, and God 453 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 6: bless Rince and God blessed Tim Miller. Tim Miller said, Oh, 454 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 6: they didn't treat people, and I something to say. It 455 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 6: was principally about amnesty in the Hispanic vote and it 456 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 6: was just one thousand percent dead wrong. A guy named 457 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 6: Sean Trendy, a lawyer I think at Hunting Williams and Richmond, 458 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 6: who's a poll analyst. I think he does a full 459 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 6: time now for real Cleare Politics wrote a series of 460 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 6: articles going through the analysis, and he came to a 461 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:12,199 Speaker 6: very radical, radically different conclusion than the RNC autopsy. And 462 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 6: I sat there, new to politics. I see the autopsy here, 463 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 6: I see Sean Trendy. Sean Trendy's right. I did some 464 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 6: back of the envelope math and just kind of get 465 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 6: the sense of the country. I said, it's populous nationalism, 466 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:29,479 Speaker 6: and a leader will arise, a leader will come on. 467 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 6: I had tried to talk Sarah Palin and running in 468 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 6: twenty eleven. She didn't hit the bid, and God blessed 469 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 6: Sarah Palin, but she has faded from the scene. And 470 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 6: she was a five tool player at the time and 471 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:47,880 Speaker 6: could have won the Republican nomination of that. I'm absolutely certain. Okay, 472 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 6: let's take a short break back in a moment. 473 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 11: It's hard for the trick. 474 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 2: Here's your host, Stephen. 475 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,679 Speaker 6: So to finish the story, Sean Trending, and I said no, 476 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 6: Sean Trender's right. And he was talking about policies that 477 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:15,159 Speaker 6: speak to the working class, and Rians and the RNC 478 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 6: and Tim Miller were saying no. We talked, we were 479 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 6: too harsh to people and there should be amnesty and 480 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,199 Speaker 6: immediately Marco Rubio, the Gang of Eight. Remember they had 481 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 6: that whole thing and Sean Hannity was part of it. 482 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 6: Rupert Murdoch, they had the big dinner with Murdoch and 483 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 6: they were going to roll starting in twenty thirteen, they 484 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 6: rolled it out. They rolled out the Amnesty plan on 485 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 6: Handity's show with Rubio. This is what killed Rubio became 486 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:42,679 Speaker 6: like the sock puppet for amnesty. We killed that in 487 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,919 Speaker 6: the House, and we killed it in the Senate. We 488 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 6: killed it in the summer of thirteen in the house. 489 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 6: Remember up all night if you guys were at the 490 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 6: time right by recovery. And there was Stephen Miller working 491 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 6: for Sessions, who was a hero in that time. But 492 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 6: what it laid out is you needed the people were 493 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,159 Speaker 6: looking for change. There were looking for populis change. And 494 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 6: that's not the Republican Party. I don't need to name 495 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 6: the commentators that you guys know very well. It's not popularism. 496 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 6: They would go nuts. You mentioned populism, they go nuts. 497 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 6: You mentioned nationalism, they go nuts. As I'm a constitutional conservatives, 498 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 6: it's about limited government, yo, bro, Where's your limited government 499 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 6: under Bush? Where's your limited government under Bush? 500 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:26,360 Speaker 1: One? 501 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 6: Where's your limited government? Under even President Reagan, God blessing, 502 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 6: you never delivered any limited government because it's not just 503 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 6: about taking a couple of regulations off. That's just you 504 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 6: guys being todies for your donors. If you're going to 505 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 6: do it, you got to take the state apart, deconstruction 506 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 6: of the administrative state. It's quite obvious what has grown 507 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 6: and metastasized, and there's tons of smart people that know that. 508 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 6: But you need somebody to deliver the sledgehammer. That individual 509 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 6: would be Donald J. Trump. I remember all this time 510 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 6: that never trumpers. They had the thing of National Review 511 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 6: and they had all the big names in media up there, 512 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 6: and they had pieces, they had written essays. Go back 513 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 6: and read those essays at the time, I go, what 514 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 6: are these people missing? What don't they understand? No conventional 515 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 6: Republican will ever be elected to president United States? Right? 516 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 6: That That's why I saw Ronda Santis and Nikki Hilly 517 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 6: or are you kidding me? Forget to forget bird brains, 518 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 6: possitive bird brains, personality and lack of smarts, and forget 519 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 6: the Santas the issues he has which are manifold, forget 520 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 6: those personality issues. It's just that is not going to 521 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 6: win national elections. That's you think that's going to turn 522 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 6: out eighty million votes. You think that's going to turn 523 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 6: it out in Pennsylvania, Michigan, in Wisconsin where you need 524 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 6: to win. No, are you kidding me? Not going to happen. 525 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 6: It's changed. It's left and behind. They started to get 526 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 6: left behind because in twenty twelve they couldn't even understand 527 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 6: what was in front of them. And you compare what 528 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 6: that autopsy said with what trendy said and how we 529 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 6: made that actionable and waited not too long because Trump's 530 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,239 Speaker 6: spoke at Seapack and then in fourteen Seapack and then 531 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 6: in fourteen the moment of clarification was in Hanover, New Hampshire. 532 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 6: It was Hanover Dave Bossy and says Citizens United had 533 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 6: the first kind of cattle call of that year. And 534 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 6: this is these cattle call calls are to get in 535 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 6: front of the activists people just like this audience that 536 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 6: turned out that if you want to run a successful 537 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 6: campaign in New Hampshire, you have to have these people 538 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 6: sign up. They have to be part of your team, 539 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 6: just like in Iowa, just like in South Carolina, those 540 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 6: early states and You had Rand Paul and I think 541 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 6: Rand Paul just been on the cover of Time magazine. 542 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 6: You had Ted Cruz, you had new Gindridge. You had 543 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 6: them all, like Lee everybody. Everybody was going to run 544 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 6: in sixteen to the other. They didn't have Jeb and 545 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 6: they didn't have a couple of moderates. They've kind of 546 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 6: tended towards more of the conservatives. But they must have 547 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 6: had twenty people. And they had Donald Trump. And I'm 548 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 6: sitting there with Breitbart Radio and we're kind of off 549 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 6: to the side. Oh, and guess who was there. Jeremy Peters, 550 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 6: who had followed Andrew Breitbart and had written an amazing 551 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 6: piece and The New York Times about Andrew Breitbart. And 552 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 6: then Andrew had passed away, and Jeremy wrote the incredible 553 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 6: piece about his life. Because Jeremy was the New York 554 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 6: Times guy kind of assigned to the fringes of the 555 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 6: conservative movement. And Cassie Hunt was up there. She was 556 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 6: a young reporter for MSNBC. She had drawn the Saturday 557 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 6: duty and Trump spoke and I stat in the back 558 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 6: and people leaned into it. They didn't fully understand it 559 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 6: was talking about because he was talking in a nomenclature 560 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 6: that was totally different than Republicans had heard before. But 561 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 6: the one thing I observed and started observing i went around, 562 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 6: is that political speak, the talking when's the Republicans didn't resonate. 563 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 6: Political speak does not resonate. Is does not touch your spirit, 564 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:12,479 Speaker 6: doesn't touch your soul. It's very superficial. It's also not 565 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 6: doesn't comport with what's going on in modern life as 566 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 6: far as the economic realities of how one lives. It 567 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 6: just quite frankly misses the point. It misses the point 568 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 6: you saw this last time with everything going to the world. 569 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 6: Go back to the debates and listen to Christie. He's 570 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 6: a good example because he's about a standard stock a 571 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 6: Republican and not particularly bright. That you're gonna get because 572 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 6: he's just repeating stuff. But here what bird brain repeats, 573 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 6: and here what Chris Christy repeats doesn't really tie in 574 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 6: with modern economic reality, doesn't tie in with the geostrategic 575 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 6: reality of the world. It's all this having you know, 576 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 6: we're fighting for freedom in Ukraine, we're fighting for liberty 577 00:32:54,120 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 6: in Ukraine, just all this mindless chatter. Trump was different. 578 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 6: When Trump talked, people leaned into it. It was powerful. 579 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 6: You could tell Trump was touching something. He was touching 580 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 6: a nerve. And no, he wasn't a politician. He was 581 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 6: anything but a politician. He didn't have any of the 582 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 6: moves of a politician, didn't think like a politician, didn't 583 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 6: want to test. Let's go test market Let's let's do 584 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 6: a focus group. Can you get some overnight polling for me. 585 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 6: Remember Trump thinks all the polling numbers are made up anyway, 586 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 6: the polsters don't really do it, They just make it up. 587 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 6: So he's not going to test like Clinton. Clinton would 588 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 6: test everything, focus group test. It just the kind of 589 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 6: the superficial marketing apparatus has taken over modern politics. Trump 590 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 6: was none of that. But you could see in that 591 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 6: very early time that there was something that people had 592 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 6: wanted change. But they're not taught how the system works. 593 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 6: Not only do we don't teach, so you don't teach 594 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 6: the classical Declaration of Independence, particularly the Constitution, how that 595 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 6: ties in with the corporate world, how it ties in 596 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 6: to the United States economy, and how that economy ties 597 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:17,280 Speaker 6: in to the global economy, and how the United States 598 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 6: really ties in or connects into the G seven or 599 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:24,799 Speaker 6: the G twenty from national security basis, and from a 600 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 6: geopolitical basis, and from a global capital markets and trade patterns. 601 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,319 Speaker 6: They're not taught. Why is it not taught? Why have 602 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 6: people come to the war room to hear what we 603 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,840 Speaker 6: have to say here? Why at Danbury did the young prisoners, 604 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:42,360 Speaker 6: the black and Hispanic prisoners lean forward and want to 605 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 6: and thirst it, thirst it for more of this. They 606 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,239 Speaker 6: don't teach it because they don't want you to know it. 607 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 6: They don't teach it because they don't want you to 608 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:57,479 Speaker 6: know it. They're not interested in you understanding it, because 609 00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 6: if you understand it, you may have a couple of questions. 610 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,919 Speaker 6: If you have a couple of questions and they don't 611 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 6: get answered, then all of a sudden, maybe you draw 612 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 6: an opinion, and maybe that opinion goes against what they 613 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 6: how they want things run, and so they want the 614 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 6: politicians to stand up there and just talk about nonsense. 615 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:17,840 Speaker 6: Go back you ever get a chance, it's not a 616 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 6: waste of time. YouTube, or go back and look at 617 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:24,880 Speaker 6: the debates on like early Republican debates in some of 618 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 6: the years, and like in two thousand and twelve or 619 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 6: in two thousand and eight, go back and look at 620 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 6: some of the questions and how the answers were. You'll 621 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:39,959 Speaker 6: see how meaningless it is, how irrelevant it is. It's 622 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 6: structured to be irrelevant, to be meaningless because the Murdochs 623 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 6: who control Fox, they don't want change. They like the 624 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:55,880 Speaker 6: way things are. They're kind of in control. The system 625 00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:00,720 Speaker 6: doesn't want change. You have forced you are the anti 626 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:04,720 Speaker 6: system players there. They are the system. You know. Alex 627 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 6: Wagner and and and uh and Chris hay So, two 628 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 6: of the smartest guys over there. They talk about this 629 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 6: all the time, that they are now boxed into and 630 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 6: box into unenviable position of defending a corrupt and incompetent 631 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 6: and destructive system. And they said, of course the system, 632 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 6: you know, needs change, but you know, you have to 633 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,359 Speaker 6: have institutionalists, and we're institution that you have to you 634 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:30,799 Speaker 6: have to have these institutions. Is that some part of 635 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,880 Speaker 6: is that like the second law thermodynamic ynamics. This is 636 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 6: like when Paul Ryne and them used to talk about 637 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:40,840 Speaker 6: Austrian economics and handout big copies of a RAN's Atlas Shrugged. 638 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,400 Speaker 6: We're all going to be libertarian objectivists now, But I 639 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,959 Speaker 6: don't believe that I'm not one, never will be one. 640 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 6: Not that I say that she's not a great novelist 641 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 6: and that people get a lot of enjoyment in reading that. 642 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 6: But the political philosophy of it is the political philosophy 643 00:36:56,640 --> 00:37:00,399 Speaker 6: of a nine year old girl. It's it's not only 644 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:06,239 Speaker 6: not serious, it's dangerous. Atlas Shrugged and the thoughts of 645 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:10,440 Speaker 6: Leshau and the ubermenschh and Nietzsche's will to power and 646 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 6: all the Nietzschean philosophy that in corporates that leads to Auschwitz. Yep, 647 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:22,239 Speaker 6: right there, crooked path, but you'll get there. It's like 648 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,759 Speaker 6: the autopsy with all the data and all the information. 649 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 6: And Tim Miller just said it. Oh, you know, we 650 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,400 Speaker 6: said we'd said mean things about gays and mean things 651 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 6: about blacks and mean things about Hispanics. We had to 652 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 6: give an anaesty. We had to be nicer. I remember Rance, 653 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:35,719 Speaker 6: I didn't know me. 654 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 7: We going. 655 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 6: Tom says, we need to tell better stories. I'm sitting there, going, 656 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,840 Speaker 6: we need to do what you can tell better stories? 657 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,239 Speaker 6: Is that what we need to do now? And Right's 658 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 6: is a good man. I got to know him a 659 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 6: lot on the sixteen campaign and then in the in 660 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 6: the White House and Ryns previous is a good guy. 661 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 6: I know a lot of people take shots him and 662 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:56,960 Speaker 6: always this war between Rights and Bannon. That's that's far 663 00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,120 Speaker 6: from the truth. We don't agree on a lot. But 664 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,920 Speaker 6: he's a good man. But he's also dead. He was 665 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:06,799 Speaker 6: dead wrong. I remember Miller. Tim Miller just said, well, 666 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 6: then Trump comes along and he says everything bad about everybody, 667 00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 6: and they went because Trump talks about the real issues 668 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:18,800 Speaker 6: in the country, and it connects when they when they 669 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,719 Speaker 6: stole the election and ran him out of town. When 670 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 6: he got to Marlago, he had every opportunity in the 671 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,240 Speaker 6: world just to say I'm not going to do this anymore. 672 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,720 Speaker 6: I'm already worth seven billion dollars, I got a great family. 673 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,839 Speaker 6: I'd go buy more golf clubs and you know they'll 674 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 6: be in the British Rhoda, or I'll get to the 675 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 6: you know, Bedminster being the PGA, and I'll eventually get 676 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 6: the host Us Open somewhere. He could have done that 677 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,600 Speaker 6: and been revered by the by the twenty five or 678 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,799 Speaker 6: the one third of the of the the MAGA movement 679 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 6: that would have hung around and always supported him, but 680 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:55,239 Speaker 6: he didn't. He had the moral courage to say no, 681 00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:01,600 Speaker 6: I must return. I want it, they dole it. I 682 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 6: will only sleep when we run again. And I went again, 683 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 6: and people ask, how did you know so early it 684 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,920 Speaker 6: was going to happen? Because it's inevitable, it had to happen. 685 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:17,320 Speaker 6: We're a providential country, and divine providence works through human 686 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 6: agency in the United States of America, because we are 687 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,560 Speaker 6: the new Jerusalem. If you don't understand that, you don't 688 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:28,759 Speaker 6: understand anything. You're not going to understand anything that you hear. 689 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:33,399 Speaker 6: This audience, in this point in time, this place are 690 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 6: making history like no other common citizens have made history 691 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:42,319 Speaker 6: since the Revolution. You this audience the tip of the 692 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 6: tip of the spear. Because of your agency. You had 693 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:51,640 Speaker 6: Trump's back. Trump had the courage to step forward and say, 694 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 6: I'll do it again. Trump took on all comers in 695 00:39:56,080 --> 00:40:00,160 Speaker 6: the entire apparatus, the financial apparatus, the technology apparatus, the 696 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 6: Hollywood apparatus, the political apparatus, the legal apparatus, ninety two families, 697 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:09,720 Speaker 6: what four hundred years in prison, never before in any 698 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:16,600 Speaker 6: and even a Banana republic. And he won. He won, 699 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,080 Speaker 6: And that's just one step in this journey. We have 700 00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 6: to secure that victory. We have to secure that victory. 701 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,360 Speaker 6: We have to fight. We have to take control of 702 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:32,960 Speaker 6: the institutions. This moment in history demands it. It demands it. 703 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,720 Speaker 6: It demands it of you, not of Trump, of youth, 704 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:42,879 Speaker 6: of youth. If you meet this moment, we will save 705 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:48,960 Speaker 6: this republic trupper for the world of the Hong Kong. 706 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:55,480 Speaker 6: We will pay to the God. We rejoice most down. 707 00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:58,200 Speaker 7: Room. 708 00:40:58,520 --> 00:40:59,640 Speaker 6: Refuse your hosts. 709 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:00,879 Speaker 2: He even came back. 710 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,560 Speaker 6: So the tie back to that autopsy. Here we are 711 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:14,040 Speaker 6: in twenty twenty four, which is twelve years after the autopsy, 712 00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:19,240 Speaker 6: twelve years, a decade plus in Pro Publica. Right there, 713 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:24,000 Speaker 6: two reporters, two investigators from Pro Publica, a left wing operation, 714 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 6: go down to the field and come back and say 715 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:32,760 Speaker 6: the choir part outloud that Hispanic and Latinos were attracted 716 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:37,719 Speaker 6: to Trump because Trump protected their citizenship about the invasion 717 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 6: of the new arrivals. They hated this, and only Trump 718 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:45,040 Speaker 6: had the courage to step up. One thing that MSNBC 719 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:51,360 Speaker 6: should understand, this is just not your Your problem is 720 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,799 Speaker 6: deeper than just the fatigue of people to lose, even 721 00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:58,000 Speaker 6: on the right. After Trump lost in twenty you see 722 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,880 Speaker 6: all the networks and websites, everything dropped off. If Werward didn't, 723 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,799 Speaker 6: we didn't. We added why because we led the fight. 724 00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:08,480 Speaker 6: So they're not giving up. This lesson was stolen. I 725 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,720 Speaker 6: don't care if we got to. Remember, we're permanently between 726 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 6: that and the pandemic, and we're the first ones to 727 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:17,400 Speaker 6: go to the pandemic in January twenty twenty. Between that 728 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:21,839 Speaker 6: and the pandemic, we're permanently burned in perpetuity. Band on Facebook, 729 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:27,080 Speaker 6: on YouTube, on Spotify, and on Twitter. Up until a 730 00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:31,160 Speaker 6: week ago, a week ago, we haven't rejoined Twitter, but 731 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:32,960 Speaker 6: a week ago were banned. Up until a week ago, 732 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,319 Speaker 6: I think they came back and said you can get 733 00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,759 Speaker 6: your you can get your handleback, which I never had 734 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,359 Speaker 6: because it was never on Twitter. We had something up 735 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:45,000 Speaker 6: there that was banned. And twelve plus years later, Trump 736 00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,600 Speaker 6: is right. It's one of the reasons he won. This 737 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:51,839 Speaker 6: is the reason of this new coalition coming together. As 738 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,319 Speaker 6: I keep saying, is like what FDR did to end 739 00:42:55,360 --> 00:43:00,520 Speaker 6: the Republican reign essentially from the Civil War, and I 740 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:03,719 Speaker 6: realized you had Woodrow Wilson some other guys there, but 741 00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:08,440 Speaker 6: essentially from the Civil War, from the ascension of Abraham 742 00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:17,400 Speaker 6: Lincoln in eighteen sixty all the way through basically basically FDR, 743 00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:22,440 Speaker 6: it was all Republican rule. And from FDR essentially, I 744 00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,279 Speaker 6: know you had Eisenhower, but he was kind of a 745 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:31,960 Speaker 6: corporatus the President Reagan, he had New Gingrich Revolution, right, 746 00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:35,520 Speaker 6: so until then, but really the big move I think 747 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,480 Speaker 6: was taken the House in twenty ten with the Tea 748 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:41,160 Speaker 6: Party movee. We won sixty three seats. That's been set 749 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,239 Speaker 6: the point. And then a couple of years later Trump 750 00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,279 Speaker 6: won the presidency. Then Trump went again in twenty twenty, 751 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,560 Speaker 6: had his stolen came back in one in twenty twenty four, 752 00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:53,960 Speaker 6: and here we are, and Bob's your uncle, and now 753 00:43:55,960 --> 00:44:00,360 Speaker 6: we have to secure that victory. You have this secure 754 00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:04,360 Speaker 6: the victory, just like after the Civil War? Was the 755 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,879 Speaker 6: victory secured with all the bloodshed of what was fought 756 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:09,960 Speaker 6: for the Civil War? Was that victory secured? Was World 757 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:14,160 Speaker 6: War Two? Of all the bloodshed in the American participation, 758 00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:20,800 Speaker 6: did we really win in World War Two? When Stalin 759 00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,520 Speaker 6: took over all Eastern Europe, we gave up Berlin, We 760 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,240 Speaker 6: didn't even try for Berlin. All those questions that Senator 761 00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:29,480 Speaker 6: McCarthy asked, how did that happen? And then a couple 762 00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,880 Speaker 6: of years later, we gave over China to the Chinese 763 00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:36,799 Speaker 6: Commist Party. You see all that bloodshed, all that sacrifice 764 00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:40,359 Speaker 6: by the Russian people and the Chinese people, and they're 765 00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:45,080 Speaker 6: enslaved by communist dictators every bit as bad as Hiller. 766 00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:52,160 Speaker 6: Hitler's a monster, Stalin was a monster, and mal say 767 00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:58,520 Speaker 6: Tongue maybe even the greatest monster. That's why this moment 768 00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,120 Speaker 6: on the eve of Thanksgiving about what to give thanks for. 769 00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:05,080 Speaker 6: Give thanks not simply we have Donald Trump, but give 770 00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:08,400 Speaker 6: thanks that you're here in this moment of history, and 771 00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:14,359 Speaker 6: that divine Providence, in its wisdom, has said that you're here, 772 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,400 Speaker 6: and you're in this movement, and that your agency means something. 773 00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,520 Speaker 6: That you've had, you this audience have had a direct 774 00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:25,320 Speaker 6: impact in changing and bending the arc of history, bending 775 00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,360 Speaker 6: the arc of history. Here people talk about it. You 776 00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,400 Speaker 6: have bent the arc of history. I was there. I 777 00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:33,839 Speaker 6: saw you do it. I saw you do it from 778 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:38,600 Speaker 6: January of twenty twenty one until November fifth of twenty 779 00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:43,600 Speaker 6: twenty four. I saw you bend the arc of history. 780 00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:48,360 Speaker 6: Michae Lindelle joins us Mike. Some people are saying Mike's 781 00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,480 Speaker 6: not shown as good enough. Deals talk to us brother. 782 00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:53,320 Speaker 11: Well, by the way, Steve, you see you couldn't have 783 00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:56,040 Speaker 11: said it better what you just said. Those are words 784 00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,239 Speaker 11: to give thanks for God gave us graze for such 785 00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,520 Speaker 11: a time as this, and I'm saying in it for the. 786 00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:02,600 Speaker 2: Last three four years. Enjoy where we're at. 787 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,719 Speaker 11: We're at a defining moment in history and in the 788 00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:09,520 Speaker 11: biggest revival ever for Jesus Christ, and I want to 789 00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,120 Speaker 11: give thanks to the warm Room Posse. 790 00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:13,879 Speaker 2: This is the last day. 791 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,759 Speaker 11: It'll be till midnight for the free shipping on your 792 00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:17,520 Speaker 11: entire order. 793 00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:18,480 Speaker 2: Now we're going to have a. 794 00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:22,359 Speaker 11: Lot of new specials for Black Friday, but this one 795 00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:24,319 Speaker 11: is really special. We did it this week for the 796 00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:28,479 Speaker 11: warm Room Posse. All of our pillows there fourteen eighty eight, 797 00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:31,239 Speaker 11: eighteen eighty eight for the Queens, nineteen eighty eight for 798 00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:35,120 Speaker 11: the Kings, the body pillows twenty ninety eighty eight. Get 799 00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,319 Speaker 11: the free shipping. There's what top six seven hours left 800 00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:39,640 Speaker 11: of the free shipping. 801 00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,239 Speaker 2: Promo code Warroom. This is a warm Room exclusive. 802 00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:45,279 Speaker 11: And go to the website, you guys, go down to 803 00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:48,160 Speaker 11: you see our great leader there, Steve Space. Click on 804 00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,840 Speaker 11: it and there do all your shopping today. Take advantage 805 00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:53,880 Speaker 11: of the last few hours of the free shipping on 806 00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:57,160 Speaker 11: your entire order, plus the savings you're not going to see. 807 00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:01,120 Speaker 11: There's the toppers, the Black Friday special on the mattress stoppers, 808 00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,680 Speaker 11: get yourself something. There's a lot of early specials there too, 809 00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:10,000 Speaker 11: the slippers on sale. There's some more Black Fridays that. 810 00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:13,080 Speaker 11: All the clothing came in, the bed sheets, the towels, 811 00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:17,200 Speaker 11: the kitchen towels came in. Everybody, all the new kitchen towels. 812 00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:20,120 Speaker 11: Great gifts, remember everybody too. I want to say this. 813 00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:24,120 Speaker 11: We have extended our sixty day money back guarantee until 814 00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:27,879 Speaker 11: March first of twenty twenty five, so you can buy 815 00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:31,480 Speaker 11: everything for Christmas and they still get that guarantee and 816 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,000 Speaker 11: the ten year warranty on all the products, so you 817 00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:37,040 Speaker 11: can get all your shipping early. Steve, I can't thank 818 00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,520 Speaker 11: you enough for helping save this country. 819 00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:41,160 Speaker 2: And we got a lot of work to. 820 00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,239 Speaker 11: Do, but we got a lot of things to give tomorrow. 821 00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:46,440 Speaker 6: I had the easiest job in the world. I had 822 00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,400 Speaker 6: to sit in front of a microphone and talk to 823 00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:51,920 Speaker 6: the greatest people in the history of this nation. This 824 00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:56,239 Speaker 6: audience as great as the revolutionary generation, as great as 825 00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,319 Speaker 6: the generation of the Civil War, as great as the 826 00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:01,920 Speaker 6: generation that won World War Two. With this audience, against 827 00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:06,359 Speaker 6: all odds, you save this Republic. Donald Trump is providential. 828 00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:10,000 Speaker 6: He's an armor piercing shell. He's a blunt force instrument, 829 00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,759 Speaker 6: and he's given blunt force trauma to a corrupt and 830 00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,759 Speaker 6: destructive system. And we've only yet begun to fight. 831 00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:16,000 Speaker 2: Now. 832 00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:23,480 Speaker 6: Mike Lindelle, thank you very much. Great Johnny Kahn, thank you, brother. 833 00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,600 Speaker 6: The Great Johnny Kahn takes us out with the anthem 834 00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:31,560 Speaker 6: of the tea Party, American Heart. We're gonna return in 835 00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:36,080 Speaker 6: a moment. We're gonna light up the second hour, finish stronger, 836 00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:41,319 Speaker 6: run through the tape on a Thanksgiving holiday weekend short 837 00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:42,520 Speaker 6: break back in a moment. 838 00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:46,160 Speaker 2: Thank you, shame already. 839 00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:48,959 Speaker 6: You will lost show. 840 00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:56,040 Speaker 2: American