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Speaker 1: In Lakekick is Live. It is Tuesday night, September fifteenth,

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Speaker 1: much for being tuned in. We were looking in the

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Speaker 1: You know the Drill, the Late Kick Extra podcast. We

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Speaker 1: We had some good questions about head coaches, some cool

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Speaker 1: good questions about hurricanes and storm chasing, so everything in between.

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Speaker 1: We have got our first game breakdown tonight. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: the Mood Tracker, which will be a weekly feature here,

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Speaker 1: plays on the Rama Noodle Express to deliver all that

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Speaker 1: I don't know the exact quote. He said, I was

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Speaker 1: kind of pumped because we only have thirty four players

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Speaker 1: out tonight, not three point four ladies and gentlemen. Thirty

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Speaker 1: four missed practice Saturday and that was a good occurrence

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Speaker 1: for Tennessee. And he talked about having to go two

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Speaker 1: weeks into the season in camp mode. Now, I want

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Speaker 1: to reiterate that for those in the back of the

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Speaker 1: room who may not have heard it the first time.

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Speaker 1: Jeremy Pruitt, head coach Tennessee, is openly telling the media.

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Speaker 1: This is not even some internal thought. He's just openly

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Speaker 1: telling the media. We've had to adjust our structure and

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Speaker 1: our scheduling so much that we're just going to have

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Speaker 1: to be in camp mode for like the.

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Speaker 2: First two weeks of the season. There's still two weeks

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Speaker 2: away from starting their season.

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Speaker 1: By the way, that shows you how far behind developmentally

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Speaker 1: in a lot of ways they feel they are. And

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Speaker 1: let me ask you this question rhetorically as we move

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Speaker 1: on from Tennessee. The reason it's so concerning, aside from

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Speaker 1: the obvious, is one of the same things Origeron's dealing

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Speaker 1: with at LSU. We're going to talk about the Tiger's

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Speaker 1: in just a second. This sounds kind of simple, but

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Speaker 1: it's not. It's anything but simple. If you've ever coached,

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Speaker 1: I would assume you know what I'm about to say.

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Speaker 1: It's not simple. When do you know you have a

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Speaker 1: football team? When do you have the team? I'm not

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Speaker 1: asking you when are all the players in the locker room?

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Speaker 2: When do you have a team? A collection of dudes

461
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Speaker 2: is not a team.

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Speaker 1: A team is kind of a living, breathing organism that

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Speaker 1: the sum hopefully is more than the collection of the parts.

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Speaker 1: In some cases, you have a glue and intangible and

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Speaker 1: that's what a team is. There's an identity, there's a chemistry,

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Speaker 1: there's a cohesion, there's a synergy. How do you have that?

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Speaker 2: How could you possibly expect Tennessee to have that?

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Speaker 1: Right now? For that matter, how could you possibly expect

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Speaker 1: LSU to have it? When will they have it? That's

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Speaker 1: the question, because it says all the right things about

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Speaker 1: being excited about the personnel, and I'm sure he is.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's bluffing there. He doesn't seem like

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Speaker 1: the kind of guy who would bluff. He's been tracking

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Speaker 1: his defensive line publicly, so if he hands out accolades,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure he means them. But I don't know as

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Speaker 1: does Tennessee have their football team yet? I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: the kind of question we're sitting here asking. In mid

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Speaker 1: September at South Carolina, Missouri at Georgia, that's the first

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Speaker 1: three for Tennessee at Auburn. We have called them and

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Speaker 1: still refer to them as the biggest mystery team in

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Speaker 1: the SEC, maybe the country. Out of all the Power

482
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Speaker 1: five teams in the country this year, they are the

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Speaker 1: most high profile team that we know the least about

484
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Speaker 1: a lot of people are excited about year two of

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Speaker 1: Bo Nick's at quarterback. A lot of people understandably so

486
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Speaker 1: excited about Chad Morris coming in as their offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 1: You've got Seth Williams and hopefully some other guys that

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Speaker 1: emerge at wide receiver. You've upgraded again, hopefully the passing game.

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Speaker 1: You got several options you think at running back, DJ

490
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Speaker 1: Williams and Shivers, Tank Bigsby, kid from Callaway High School.

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Speaker 2: I covered a lot when he was in high school.

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Speaker 1: Well, this is great, but it's also irrelevant if you

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Speaker 1: don't have the offensive line figured out. And I'm telling you,

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Speaker 1: even the people that I've always been able to lean

495
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Speaker 1: on to glean some inside intel away from Auburn, they

496
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Speaker 1: are total shruggy emoji right now, their hands up in

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Speaker 1: the air when you ask them about the offensive line.

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Speaker 2: We don't know, we don't know, We have no clue.

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Speaker 1: Like we hear some things, but you know, it's kind

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Speaker 1: of one rumor forward, two rumors back. We have no

501
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Speaker 1: clue what to expect. Now I can tell you being

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Speaker 1: close to Auburn, the twenty twenty offensive line.

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Speaker 2: Has been a fear of theirs for two years. I'm kidding,

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Speaker 2: I'm not kidding you.

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Speaker 1: Twenty eighteen season, knowing what they didn't have taken care

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Speaker 1: of in that year's recruiting class and knowing how senior

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Speaker 1: laden they were going to be in twenty nineteen, people

508
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Speaker 1: were already looking at twenty twenty and saying, we need

509
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Speaker 1: to get it done in twenty nineteen because that twenty

510
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Speaker 1: twenty years is going to be It's going to be

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Speaker 1: a kind of a rebuilding year unless we have just

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Speaker 1: these massive amounts of transfers come in. And they've had

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Speaker 1: one or two, but it hasn't been the likes of

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Speaker 1: which you do to completely retool your offensive line. So again, quarterback,

515
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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, running back depth, a couple of emerging names

516
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Speaker 1: at receiver, upgraded passing concepts. All that's great if you've

517
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Speaker 1: got time to operate. If you don't, you got the

518
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Speaker 1: same frustration and you got the same concerns that you

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Speaker 1: have found yourself having in several years under Gus Malson.

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Speaker 1: So that for is one of a number of reasons

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Speaker 1: to be honest with you. We call them our mystery

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Speaker 1: team of twenty twenty. Could go eight and two, could

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Speaker 1: go five and five. Neither would shock me. LSU has

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Speaker 1: now entered They are past the opt out phase. LSU

525
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Speaker 1: is now so deep into the drama down there, they

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Speaker 1: have now entered opt in phase. Kay, I'm old enough

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Speaker 1: to remember when the biggest concern at LSU was players

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Speaker 1: opting out. Now we have players opting in. The same

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Speaker 1: guys that you dag cussed up and down.

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Speaker 2: Off the record anonymously. I saw you guys when they

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Speaker 2: were opting out.

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Speaker 1: Well, now it's you know what, Maybe I was wrong

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Speaker 1: about him in retress. He is much more of a

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Speaker 1: high character guy than I thought. I kid, only if

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Speaker 1: I'm actually describing you, in which case, shameful. What are

536
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Speaker 1: we talking about here? If you haven't been paying attention.

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Speaker 1: Neil Ferrell, who opted out a few weeks ago, is back.

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Speaker 1: He's opted back in. I don't know what changed in

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Speaker 1: the life of Neil Ferrell, but he's opted back in,

540
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Speaker 1: So I don't care what changed. I'm glad he's back now,

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Speaker 1: whether he starts or whether he's a rotational guy that

542
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Speaker 1: remains to be seen, probably has a lot to do

543
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Speaker 1: with his weight, because I can tell you right now

544
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Speaker 1: both Poline, He's not starting three hundred and twenty pounds

545
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Speaker 1: defensive ends. That's not happening. So if he's you know,

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Speaker 1: a little heavier, if Pu'm gonna slide him inside, put

547
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Speaker 1: him on the edge, if he can get conditioned and

548
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Speaker 1: down to where he needs to be, point being at

549
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Speaker 1: ads critically needed depth. I think he was the leader

550
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Speaker 1: for them in total stops last year, So at the

551
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Speaker 1: very least, this is a very good sign.

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Speaker 2: However, is that all? Is this all that's gonna happen

553
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Speaker 2: down there?

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Speaker 1: Because now I'm looking over at GO twenty four to

555
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Speaker 1: seven and Shade Dixon and Sonny and the guy's over

556
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Speaker 1: There also rumors circulating that maybe Tyler Sheldon wants to

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Speaker 1: come back Edward's he ran at his presser. I think

558
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Speaker 1: today shared with the media that I have talked with

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Speaker 1: Tyler Shelvin's parents. I haven't really heard from Tyler Shelvin though.

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Speaker 2: It's so weird. It's like if if you were going.

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Speaker 1: To transfer from one school to another in fifth grade,

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Speaker 1: and you know your parents are kind of doing the

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Speaker 1: groundwork for you. You're only in fifth grade, so I mean,

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Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? Call the principle up. That's

565
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Speaker 1: kind of the way this feels. Only Tyler Shelvin's full

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Speaker 1: grown man now. And I don't know. Ozroon said he's

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Speaker 1: reached out to some of his teammates. Who knows what's

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Speaker 1: happening there. But here's what I do know. I do

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Speaker 1: know ed Orzroan has continued on this quasi crusade against

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Speaker 1: Dave Randa. I don't know what kind of lunch money

571
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Speaker 1: that Randa took from Oorzeron, but he needs to return

572
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Speaker 1: it because we had again today. Ed ors Ron quote

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Speaker 1: on Dave Arranda. Our defense is so much better now

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Speaker 1: than any part of last season. You know, I like

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Speaker 1: Dave Randa and all. He gave the classic caveat and

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Speaker 1: the follow up there. But basically this has been a theme.

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Speaker 1: If you followed ls you even semi followed them. This

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Speaker 1: is not new, like Orizron has consistently said and maintained,

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Speaker 1: even though we're losing all these players and we're bringing

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Speaker 1: in a new defensive coordinator and we're switching to an

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Speaker 1: even man front, and we didn't have spring. He has

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Speaker 1: been adamant, and he knows this program better than I,

583
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Speaker 1: so far be it from me to question him. He's

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Speaker 1: been adamant. We are way better defensively now than we

585
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Speaker 1: were last year. Like I have a hard time believing

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Speaker 1: that I'm just gonna be brutally honest with you, I

587
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Speaker 1: have a hard time believing that Colin, one of our stars,

588
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Speaker 1: just fell. I need to not be so animated out here.

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Speaker 1: I hope that's not an omen anyway. I have a

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Speaker 1: hard time believing that. But then again, having watched Alabama

591
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Speaker 1: shut out Joe Burrow in company two seasons ago, I

592
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Speaker 1: had a hard time believing they were gonna nearly hang

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Speaker 1: half a hundred on Alabama the following year. And they

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Speaker 1: didn't have much problem doing that, did they. So I've

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Speaker 1: learned not to question ed orsarn but fascinating times in

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Speaker 1: Baton Rouge and they feel, and maybe this is not

597
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Speaker 1: breaking news, they feel a whole lot more confident in

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Speaker 1: themselves than anyone outside of LSU. And that's a theme

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Speaker 1: from this time last year too. Again, maybe I didn't

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Speaker 1: learn this lesson last year because I would really have

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Speaker 1: to see LSU contend in the West this year. I've

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Speaker 1: told you, as much as I believed in him last year,

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Speaker 1: AD is a tough row to hoe this particular year.

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Speaker 1: As much as I may believe in them in the future,

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Speaker 1: I'm the same way with Oklahoma this year, the team

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Speaker 1: that they eviscerated in the semi final game, love their future.

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Speaker 1: Just specific dynamics have come into play where this year

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Speaker 1: may be questionable a little bit. But I fell us.

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Speaker 1: You go seven and three this year. To me, that

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Speaker 1: is a heck of a season. That's a heck of

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Speaker 1: a job. So we'll see. We had a question that

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Speaker 1: I wanted to get to. I was recording this morning

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Speaker 1: the Late Kick Extra podcast, which is available now for

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Speaker 1: download anywhere.

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Speaker 1: We don't put that on the YouTube channel, so if

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Speaker 1: so much for those. I want to ask you something

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Speaker 1: that Cliff asked me was simply this. I was looking

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Speaker 1: at it and I said, you know, Colin, should I

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Speaker 1: put this in or should I push it to the

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Speaker 1: show tonight, and Colin didn't respond because he was probably asleep.

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Speaker 1: It was like four o'clock in the morning. But had

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Speaker 1: he been awake, he would have said push it to

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Speaker 1: the show tonight, so I did. Cliff asked this question,

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Speaker 1: this has become a very popular question in Columbia South Carolina.

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Speaker 1: Cliff said, is there a better than fifty percent chance

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Speaker 1: that Billy Napier is the head coach at South Carolina

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Speaker 1: next year? Basically the thinking is, will mush Champ is

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Speaker 1: a dead man walking? Billy Napier just went and upseid

633
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Speaker 1: Iowa State. He was one of already the hottest G

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Speaker 1: five future Power five head coaching names on the market,

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Speaker 1: and now his stock is soaring and we're going to

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Speaker 1: have an opening here. My answer is no, I don't

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Speaker 1: think the odds are above fifty percent. I think that'd

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Speaker 1: be pretty foolish to say this time in the season.

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Speaker 1: Even if you were to guarantee me mush Champs not

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Speaker 1: gonna make it to the end of the year, I

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Speaker 1: don't know that I would say the odds are above

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Speaker 1: fifty percent. And I'm gonna tell you why. And this

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Speaker 1: one's not gonna be an easy segment because I think

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Speaker 1: there are some difficult truths that we have to face,

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Speaker 1: not just at South Carolina, a few different programs. So

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Speaker 1: I want to give you the backstory. Yesterday, I want

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Speaker 1: to say it was yesterday, and I want to say

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Speaker 1: it was the Paul Finebaumb Show. Napier goes on The

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Speaker 1: Fine Bomb Show and he was asked about this, and

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Speaker 1: I didn't listen to the interview live. I've seen the quotes, though,

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Speaker 1: I retweeted one of them with a comment and I said,

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Speaker 1: or he said rather he being Billy, Napier said, you know,

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Speaker 1: he was asked about taking a bigger job and this

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Speaker 1: last year. You know, folks in the industry, it's pretty

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Speaker 1: widely known now he had an opportunity with the Vanderbilt job,

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Speaker 1: with the Old Miss job, and he turned him down.

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Speaker 1: That's right, not the head coach at Louisiana State University.

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Speaker 1: The head coach at Louisiana turned those jobs down, and

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Speaker 1: he said, it just wasn't quite time for my next job.

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Speaker 2: That's what he said. So the backstory was as follows.

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Speaker 1: Vandy Ole mess and who knows who else gave overtures

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Speaker 1: behind the scenes. But guys, those are two sec jobs

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Speaker 1: that he had a shot at and kind of declined

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Speaker 1: and said, no, I'm good, I'll stay here in Lafayette,

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Speaker 1: all right? He said, no, how crazy does that sound

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Speaker 1: to you? Ten years ago it would have been insane,

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Speaker 1: borderline unheard of. What changed. I'm going to tell you

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Speaker 1: what changed. The names are Kirby Smart and Lincoln Riley

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Speaker 1: and Ryan Day. When those guys as their first shot

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Speaker 1: at a head coaching job got Georgia and Oklahoma and

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Speaker 1: Ohio State, respectively. I can't stress in strong enough terms

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Speaker 1: behind the scenes how much that changed this industry, changed

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Speaker 1: it forever. So now I want you to put yourself

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Speaker 1: in the shoes of a billion Napier or a Mike

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Speaker 1: Norvel this time last year had been at Memphis for

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Speaker 1: a little while. Here is what people talk about behind

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Speaker 1: the scenes, people in the agent world and the coaching

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Speaker 1: representation world and the assistant coach coordinator and head coaching world.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you the example they use is

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Speaker 1: Chad Morris. Rewind to twenty fourteen. Chad Morris is at Clemson.

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Speaker 1: He is dabos Whenney's head or he's kind of co

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Speaker 1: off it's coordinator there, but he is the hot name.

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Speaker 1: At that point, a guy by the name of Deshaun

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Speaker 1: Watson is in the process of coming into the program. Okay,

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Speaker 1: well Morris is in the process of exiting. He takes

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Speaker 1: the head coaching job at SMU, does a pretty good

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Speaker 1: job at SMU. Then Arkansas comes calling and he takes

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Speaker 1: the Arkansas job and now he's the offensive coordinator at

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Speaker 1: Auburn a couple of years later. And the reason is

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Speaker 1: because it was a no win situation at Arkansas. They

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Speaker 1: did not have any kind of infrastructure or proper resources

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Speaker 1: in place to compete with and fulfill expectations the lights

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Speaker 1: of which they have at Alabama and LSU. It was

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Speaker 1: not going to happen there with the current setup. It

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Speaker 1: was not going to happen there. Okay. So Chad Morris

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Speaker 1: took the shot, took the risk, and right now he

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Speaker 1: is at a job the equivalent to which he was

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Speaker 1: at six years ago. So now the representation for these

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Speaker 1: next up and coming hot shot coordinators and maybe G

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Speaker 1: five head coaches, they have looked at that and they

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Speaker 1: have given strong guidance to their head coaches and they're

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Speaker 1: represented their clients and they've said this is not nineteen

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Speaker 1: ninety three, you don't have to cut your teeth at

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Speaker 1: a lower tier job anymore. You can wait. You're getting

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Speaker 1: paid handsomely, much more handsomely at G five spots than

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Speaker 1: you used to get paid at mid tier P five spots.

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Speaker 1: Wait wait, wait, And so while it would have sounded

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Speaker 1: crazy a generation ago to be at Louisiana and turned

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Speaker 1: down Ole Miss, it's not crazy anymore because once Kirby

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Speaker 1: Smart did what he did first time head coach Georgia

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Speaker 1: Top five program in America. Once Lincoln Riley did what

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Speaker 1: he did first time head coach Oklahoma top five, top

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Speaker 1: ten program in America, Ryan Day, how about right out

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Speaker 1: of the gate, Ohio state top three program in America.

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Speaker 1: Once that happened, it hit the reset button on the

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Speaker 1: entire industry. And now guys look around and say, I'm

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Speaker 1: not going somewhere where I am not being given an

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Speaker 1: elite ceiling.

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Speaker 2: You go to Ole Mess, you go to Arkansas.

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Speaker 1: Right now, it is unrealistic to think that you're gonna

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Speaker 1: copete year in and you're out against Alabama and you're

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Speaker 1: not gonna be given Alabama resources. It'd be totally different

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Speaker 1: if you had all the tools at your disposal at

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Speaker 1: Old Miss or Arkansas, Alabama? Does you don't. So the

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Speaker 1: thinking is, I don't have to take a job to

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Speaker 1: work my way up to one of the premier spots.

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Speaker 1: I can just wait for one of the premier spots

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Speaker 1: to open up. And now we circle back around to

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Speaker 1: how this whole thing started. Cliff asked me about Billy

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Speaker 1: Napier potentially being the next South Carolina head coach. And

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Speaker 1: so I'm gonna hetorically ask you, Cliff, and I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: ask a lot of guys. I'll be on Mark Ryan's

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Speaker 1: show tomorrow up in South Carolina and we'll probably talk

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Speaker 1: about this, and he's gonna ask me about Billy Napier

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Speaker 1: and that name being floated around South Carolina. And I

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Speaker 1: will say tomorrow exactly what I'm saying right now. Do

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Speaker 1: you think that the South Carolina job as we sit

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Speaker 1: here tonight, present day, do you think it fits the

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Speaker 1: description that Billy Napier is looking for in order to

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Speaker 1: make that move. Ole Miss didn't, Okay, Vanderbilt certainly didn't.

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna retorically ask you, guys. You can just

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Speaker 1: talk about it amongst yourselves. Does South Carolina fit that description?

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Speaker 1: Rhetorical means we move on without an answer. The Rama

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Speaker 1: Noodle Express is pulling into the station before Colin shows

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Speaker 1: you this quickly. What the Rama Noodle Express is is

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Speaker 1: our weekly five pack pack Colin pack of picks against

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Speaker 1: the number. I don't brag about this, I'm just telling

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Speaker 1: you we do really good at it. We have documented

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Speaker 1: own internal system that is completely divorced of having to

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Speaker 1: rely on anyone else to give us picks. And so

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Speaker 1: what I do at any point during the week that

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Speaker 1: I feel comfortable with the line is I hand them

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Speaker 1: out on Sunday night. We always give you our favorite

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Speaker 1: best bet for the upcoming week, and I hand it

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Speaker 1: out on the Sunday show. From there, the only thing

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Speaker 1: I can guarantee you is that by the time we

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Speaker 1: go off the air Thursday night, I will have given

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Speaker 1: you the other four. I could drop them all on

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Speaker 1: a Tuesday, I could drop them in one of the

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Speaker 1: podcasts I could do. I could do the rest of

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Speaker 1: them on Thursday. Well, it just so happens that as

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Speaker 1: we sit here tonight, we're ready for number two of

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Speaker 1: our weekly five pack in the Ram and Noudle Express.

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Speaker 1: So pull it on in here, Colin, and let's tell

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Speaker 1: the people where we are going. We're headed to South Bent.

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Speaker 1: Look at that fancy graphic Ted put together. That is

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Speaker 1: beyond sexy. Notre Dame is at home this weekend. They're

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Speaker 1: playing South Florida. They're laying twenty five and a half.

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Speaker 1: Get that number, y, You can probably gonna inflate twenty

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Speaker 1: seven to twenty eight. Maybe. I love Notre Dame this week.

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Speaker 1: I know our budd Elliott's on them too, already got

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Speaker 1: in on them. We're gonna get in them tonight. I

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Speaker 1: love the Irish this week. This is the week for

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Speaker 1: Ian book. Okay, not doing it against Clemson, didn't even

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Speaker 1: do it really against Duke last week. This is the

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Speaker 1: kind of game where they can stretch that passing game

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Speaker 1: a little bit, and they're halfway aggravated last week already

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Speaker 1: that they couldn't stretch Duke even more so than they did.

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Speaker 2: So I doubt South Florida scoring much in this game.

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Speaker 2: I love Notre Dame.

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Speaker 1: Don't think they're taking their foot off the accelerator as

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Speaker 1: much in the second half as you would maybe expect.

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Speaker 2: So the final one of those like.

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Speaker 1: Thirty eight to seven, you know, forty one to ten.

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Speaker 2: Type of games. That's where I like.

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Speaker 1: And we got Notre Dame as a thirty one point

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Speaker 1: favorite in our own internal numbers, by the way, so

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Speaker 1: across a couple of key numbers, and so we love

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame. Also, we had Duke, as you can see

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Speaker 1: two of the five in the ram Noodle Express already

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Speaker 1: exposed there. We had Duke minus six against Boston College.

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Speaker 1: Really really appreciate you guys watching I've also before we

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Speaker 1: go off tonight, I want to remind you I have

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Speaker 1: a ton of college folks, high school folks, and just

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Speaker 1: and I've told you you know, I kind of interact

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Speaker 1: with a lot of you during the week, and some

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Speaker 1: of you perform various roles behind the scenes, and it's

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Speaker 1: seventh Central. We will have the remaining three picks at

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Speaker 1: that point at the very latest in this week's rama

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