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Speaker 1: Welcome to Wired to Hunts rut Fresh Radio, bringing you

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Speaker 1: the latest reports from the white tailed woods and now

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Speaker 1: your host, Spencer new Hearth. This is Wired d Hunt's

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Speaker 1: rout Fresh Radio powered by First Light, and this week

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Speaker 1: we're covering the rutting move. This is Wired to Hunt's

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Speaker 1: rut Fresh Radio. And this is episode four hundred seventy

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Speaker 1: two and today I am joined by Mark Kenyon. And Mark,

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Speaker 1: you'll be happy to know that I had like my

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Speaker 1: first white tail action over the weekend. It's been a

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Speaker 1: long time coming for me this fall. Finally, yeah, finally,

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Speaker 1: I spent a couple of evenings glassing some pastures here

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Speaker 1: in Montana that will be deer hunting next week for

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Speaker 1: a thing that we're filled for Meat Eater and Wire

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Speaker 1: to Hunt. Um. And what I could say to summarize

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Speaker 1: the action was this, it was like textbook October twenty

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Speaker 1: the like last two hours of daylight, and at like sunset,

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Speaker 1: finally the bucks started coming into the food as well

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Speaker 1: and increasingly got bigger as shooting light disappeared. And and

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Speaker 1: to me, that's just like textbook late October with no

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Speaker 1: anything like that. It just felt very much like late

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Speaker 1: monotonous weather that we've been used to this fall as

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Speaker 1: white tail hunters. And I think you were also out

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Speaker 1: this weekend or probably for the whole week. Okay, whoa, whoa, whoa,

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Speaker 1: whoa whoa. Before before you go pushing to me, I

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Speaker 1: gotta find out, what did you see, Like, did you

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Speaker 1: see some shooters? I saw a buck that I would

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Speaker 1: But I think a week from now he'll he'll be

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Speaker 1: out sooner than that. Cool. Well, you know, speaking of

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Speaker 1: the fact that we've got a very cool project coming

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Speaker 1: up that we're gonna be filming and releasing as a

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Speaker 1: new show this fall, and it's gonna drop the first

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Speaker 1: episode in just a couple of weeks to maybe it's

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Speaker 1: maybe three weeks from now, give or take three weeks

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Speaker 1: from now. This new show is gonna drop. It is

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Speaker 1: going to be following you and me and Tony Peterson

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Speaker 1: and Clay Newcomb, and we're gonna be hunting white tails

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Speaker 1: four stories for this new series. Uh so, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: be in Montana, right, That's it's about your tomb. That's right.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna drop down to Wyoming and hunt there nice,

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Speaker 1: so I will be doing my hunt in Iowa. Folks

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Speaker 1: know I'm gonna hunting in Iowa. I'm gonna document that

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Speaker 1: It's It's one of the things that I love about

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Speaker 1: but this is the time of year that hey, bucks

430
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 1: are gonna start moving, and um, everybody's kind of getting

431
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 1: ansty in the deer woods. So um, I'm expecting it

432
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,400
Speaker 1: to be really good the next week. All right, Nay,

433
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,359
Speaker 1: good luck to you and your brother. Thanks for joining me.

434
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 1: Thanks senter alright and joining us on the line. Next

435
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,639
Speaker 1: is Greg Litzinger from the Bow Hunting fiend YouTube channel

436
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 1: in New Jersey. Now Greg in New Jersey, what would

437
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,200
Speaker 1: you say the bucket activity is ben lately? On a

438
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 1: scale of one to ten, I'll give it a six.

439
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:40,639
Speaker 1: I think the weather has had a lot to do

440
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:42,639
Speaker 1: with it. It's really here in Jersey. It's it's been

441
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:44,960
Speaker 1: warm and a lot of weird winds, a lot of

442
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 1: east wind, southeast wind. So there's definitely some changes to normal. UM.

443
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:55,359
Speaker 1: I guess normal patterns yearly patterns, So I will give

444
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 1: it a six. You know, especially public land. He has

445
00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:01,359
Speaker 1: strictly public land here. So what are you seeing for

446
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 1: signmaking right now in New Jersey? Um Robs, bigger rubs

447
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 1: are popping up, UM say, like the big boys have

448
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 1: come out a little bit and scrimping areas. UM are

449
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 1: They're staying active, but not like super active like they

450
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:23,640
Speaker 1: were around the twelfth of October. They were really jumping off.

451
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,120
Speaker 1: I've perceived in the next couple of days it should

452
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 1: you have pick back up your regarding your regardless of

453
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 1: the weather. If you're doing some in season scouting this

454
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 1: time of year on public land in the northeast, what

455
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 1: are some things that you're looking for this year? I've

456
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:44,959
Speaker 1: located foods. Of contrary on foods, UM, there's a lot

457
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:48,640
Speaker 1: there's a bump or acorn crop UM in the woods hunting,

458
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:52,159
Speaker 1: so there's food everywhere, So trying to find the right

459
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,679
Speaker 1: food which is going to be key. I think, Um,

460
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 1: we have corn and beans, but they've been known that

461
00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 1: stuff down because it's been dried out, so the the

462
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,440
Speaker 1: crops have been slowly disappearing as force some monest deer

463
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 1: in the woodlots a little sooner than normal. So UM

464
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 1: food has been become a highlight on I think for

465
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 1: a lot of this deer because there's just you know,

466
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 1: it's it's everywhere and they just want to disgorge. If

467
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 1: you're running trail cameras right now on public land, where

468
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 1: do you want to have them this time of year?

469
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:25,680
Speaker 1: In New Jersey? Um, I'm a scrape guy. UM so

470
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 1: I'm I'm near scrapes on a scrape line. Um anything

471
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:34,879
Speaker 1: scrape baste, I guess good option. Historically, when do you

472
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 1: usually start seeing some rotting activity like chasing and sparring

473
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 1: in that part of the country. October seems to be

474
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 1: the first couple of those around here, kind of popping

475
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,160
Speaker 1: the heat. Get a few, so get the bus under

476
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 1: feet in late October? How does the morning set up

477
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:59,399
Speaker 1: differ for you than in the evening set up for me? Personally?

478
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 1: They are to say a UM sitting over a scrape.

479
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 1: UM usually morning and evening unless I feel running some

480
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,159
Speaker 1: crazy hot like food sign or something on the way in.

481
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 1: But basically I'm focusing on big scraping areas or scraping

482
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 1: line feeding like a uh, your known food source. Are

483
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 1: you able to use aerial imagery at all to identify

484
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 1: places that are likely to have useful scrapes to hunt?

485
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 1: He depends on where I'm hunting. Um. Where I'm hunting

486
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 1: this year, it's kind of just it's a lot of

487
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 1: Laurel big woods kind of setting. So aerial photos and

488
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 1: datum you can see some of the oa trees, little

489
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 1: patches of oaks and yes, So when you're identifying a

490
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 1: good scrape to be haunting in late October, what are

491
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:51,159
Speaker 1: some key features that you're looking for? Numerous scrapes on

492
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 1: one tree with all broken overhead, you know, licking branches

493
00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,680
Speaker 1: or a like a scraping you know area. I guess

494
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:04,439
Speaker 1: there's numerous scrapes on numerous trees. Just the most scrapes

495
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:09,679
Speaker 1: the better and a small small area going forward. Then

496
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 1: in this next week or so, what do you think

497
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 1: that bucket activity is going to be on a scale

498
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 1: of one to ten in New Jersey. Um, I'm gonna

499
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 1: give it an eight. I just think, you know, historically speaking,

500
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 1: you know, it's been you know, a weird strange wind

501
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 1: and weather here, and they're just gonna They're gonna have

502
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 1: the the arts breath and move, So these scraping areas

503
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 1: are gonna, you know, just really ramp up, and the

504
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 1: box as definitely going to be under feet just because, um,

505
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 1: if you're not for your last basically this time of

506
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:44,160
Speaker 1: year for breeding. Alright, Greg, good luck with the rest

507
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 1: of your falling. Thanks for joining me, Thanks for having

508
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 1: me all right and joining us online. Next is Lake

509
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 1: Pickle from Primost In Mississippi. Now Lake in Mississippi. What

510
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 1: would you say the buck activity has been lately on

511
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:59,159
Speaker 1: a scale of one to ten. I'm gonna give it

512
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 1: a two. I'm gonna go I know that sounds like

513
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 1: a low score, but I think a lot of folks

514
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,679
Speaker 1: from down there. Of course you'll have your your outliers,

515
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 1: but a lot of folks from that area would probably agree. Uh,

516
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 1: this time of year, the weather, I mean it's still hot.

517
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 1: I mean it's deer season. So some people folks have

518
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 1: that mindset that you know, seasons open, you gotta go,

519
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: you gotta try, which I completely understand. But um, last

520
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,679
Speaker 1: week we had a full moon, hot weather, it's humid.

521
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 1: It's just not not a lot of things motivating a deer,

522
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 1: a buck move and daylight hours. So that's where the

523
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 1: where the low score came from. Historically in late October

524
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 1: and Mississippi is the buck movement of two out of ten. Yeah,

525
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: I mean I wouldn't say it not anything above a

526
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: five by any by any means, Are you seeing any

527
00:28:55,400 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 1: signmaking right now in Mississippi? You'll see, you know, some

528
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 1: scrapes and stuff, but nothing, nothing, anything too intense. We're

529
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 1: still a month it'll be late November early December before

530
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 1: you start seeing anything really like that breaking loose. What

531
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 1: food sources are relevant right now for deer hunters in

532
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 1: that part of the country. Um, a lot of your masteries?

533
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 1: What did that be? You know, soft masks like for

534
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 1: symmetries and stuff like that. Have you stuff some acron

535
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 1: trees that are very much in play? Um? And then

536
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 1: you'll have a few guys that do early season food flights.

537
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: If you can have a food flight that early and

538
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 1: it be up and and going, that can be a

539
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 1: good food source for you. But I'd say mostly a

540
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 1: lot of natural stuff is still your key. Where do

541
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 1: you like to run your trail cameras this time of year? Um,

542
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: food flots if you got them, and and any kind

543
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 1: of food sources, because that's where most of us gonna

544
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: be for sure in late October and Mississippi, are you

545
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 1: doing much for morning hunts? And if so, what do

546
00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: those setups look like? We don't man um And I

547
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 1: tell you the reason behind that. Uh, it's come like

548
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 1: a not a point of not really a point to

549
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 1: argue on, but it just a lot of different opinions. Uh,

550
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 1: where we hunt at there's a lot of other pressure around,

551
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 1: you know, whether that be from neighboring landowners or whatever.

552
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 1: But the deer just tend to get pressured a lot.

553
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: And this time of year were key and heavy on

554
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 1: food sources and a lot of times that we figured

555
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 1: out through a lot of trial and error. If we're

556
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 1: trying to just you know, sneak into food sources before daylight,

557
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 1: A lot of times you end up bumping the deer

558
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: off and the deer down here, especially where we hunt,

559
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 1: they do not. They respond to pressure drastically. So uh,

560
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: if we get you know, like pull a trail camera

561
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 1: and see something that you know, maybe shows a morning hunt,

562
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 1: maybe worth sneaking in there and trying it, will do it.

563
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 1: But most of the time we just leave it sit

564
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 1: in the morning and go in the afternoon strictly for

565
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: no other reason and just had to take pressure off

566
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 1: those year because they're so they response drastically to it.

567
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 1: Usually historically, Then when do you like to start doing

568
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 1: some morning haunts in Mississippi when you start seeing some

569
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: pre rud activity. Um, when you start seeing bucks do

570
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 1: more than just get up and go the bare minimum

571
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 1: distance to get a bit of food and go back. Uh,

572
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 1: you see them start getting on their feet and moving

573
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 1: and that and that then and then born and hunts

574
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: definitely become worth it up and when the rud starts,

575
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 1: you know, kicking morning hunts can be fantastic. That's when

576
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 1: we had some of our best hunts last year. But

577
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 1: this time of year, I think in our situation we're

578
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 1: doing more harm than we than we are good. Typically,

579
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,479
Speaker 1: when the temps are high this time of year. Does

580
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 1: water factor into your setups at all? Not really where

581
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: we are, just because there's there's not like there's a

582
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: a low availability of it. I mean, we've got creeks

583
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: and lakes and ponds. There's just so many places they

584
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 1: can go to get water. Granted they are using it,

585
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: it's just you're not gonna find some places heavily concentrated

586
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 1: for them to do that. They just have too much

587
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: access to water. Going forward. Then this next week or so,

588
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: what do you think that Bucket TV is going to

589
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: be on a scale of one to ten in Mississippi Una.

590
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say I could say we could see like

591
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: a four or five. We starts handing some cooler temperatures, um,

592
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: but but still I wouldn't grade at anything too high. Alright, Lake,

593
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: good luck to you and the boys from Premos. Thanks

594
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 1: for joining me. Thanks man alright and joining us on

595
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 1: the line. Last, it's t J Unger in Indiana from

596
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: the Virtue TV. Now t J in Indiana, what would

597
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 1: you say the buck activity is bent Leley on a

598
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 1: skill of one to ten, Ah Spencer, we are looking

599
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: at lately probably about a six. We're sitting here around

600
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: a six to a seven in northeast Indiana. Um buck

601
00:32:56,120 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 1: activity is definitely increasing. We're seeing more two three year

602
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 1: olds all through the daylight hours. Does are getting dogged

603
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: and they know it. I mean they're they're getting very

604
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 1: familiar with what the next step is. UM. So things

605
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 1: are things are ramping up pretty quick. I've got us

606
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: probably at a six or seven right now. That part

607
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 1: of the country has been getting a lot of precipitation

608
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 1: this month. How has that change things for deer and

609
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 1: deer hunters we have as of late especially, we've been

610
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: getting several inches of of rain. So one of the

611
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 1: biggest factors are variables. There's a lot of standing crops,

612
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 1: so we've got a bonch of corn that's still standing around,

613
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: which obviously you guys know. Um it just increases habitat

614
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 1: for these da They can spend more time out in

615
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 1: the corn and less time in the in the field

616
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 1: edges and in the woods where us hunters are. UM.

617
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 1: So deer still hanging pretty tight to that habitat um,

618
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: and it makes it a little bit more difficult to

619
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 1: have daylight, you know, daylight uh encounters and and uh

620
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: really seeing your your number ones and two's hitting your

621
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: hitting ear scrapes and whatever else. So crops standing crops,

622
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: I think is has affected, at least on the farms

623
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,879
Speaker 1: that I'm on. UM. They started getting indros out last week,

624
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 1: but we just got hit with another few inches last night. UM.

625
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 1: I'm expecting probably crops to still stand another two or

626
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 1: so weeks. UM going into the route heavy, which is

627
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: going to change things quite a bit. Besides standing corn

628
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 1: and beans, what other food sources are relevant right now

629
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: for hunters in that part of the country. So I've

630
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 1: seen a pretty recent transition to greens. So we've got

631
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: colder TIMPs finally, UM, and obviously they need those the

632
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 1: greens to help digest the greens. But UM, as of

633
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: late seeing a nice transition onto those green food plots.

634
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: So we have a lot of clover plots, we've got brassicas, UM,

635
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 1: we ran a lot of winter peas this year. UM,

636
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 1: and the deer finally figuring it out and they're hitting

637
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: those greens more frequently and more frequent daylight hours for us.

638
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 1: So I'm running all cell cameras across all of my

639
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 1: farms UM, and it's been really neat to watch as

640
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 1: the farmers have pulled like indros out. Um, those deger

641
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 1: transitioned obviously to the fresh corn. UM, but they've popped

642
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 1: right back over to the greens as of here the

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Speaker 1: last week. UM. So I think we get these north

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Speaker 1: winds that are in the forecast, UM, I'll start hunting

645
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Speaker 1: those green plots pretty pretty heavily. What do you see

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Speaker 1: for signmaking right now? In Indiana? Scrapes are hot scrapes.

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Speaker 1: They're absolutely on fire right now. I had a little

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Speaker 1: bit of a downtime UM maybe a week ago, UM,

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00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 1: which was maybe kind of a soft wall um. But

650
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 1: to this last weekend, those scrapes absolutely turned up again.

651
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 1: I mentioned we've got we've had a lot of precipitation. Um,

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00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 1: those bucks are are freshening those scrapes. You know, once

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00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 1: that that front moves out, they're hitting those main community

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00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: scrapes really hard. So I'm getting a lot of really

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Speaker 1: exciting videos coming in, UM of the number ones and

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00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: twos that they're freshening them up. They're figuring out who's

657
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 1: two and communicating of course, but UM, it's active. They're

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00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 1: hitting those scrapes every two to three days. UM. Obviously

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00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 1: precipitation plays factor there but um sign is high. A

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00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:10,839
Speaker 1: lot of buck rubs, a lot of scrapes right now

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00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 1: across all my farms. I assume by now you're doing

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00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 1: some morning haunts. So how do your morning setups differ

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00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 1: from your evening setups in late October? Yeah? So, Um,

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Speaker 1: obviously with day betting changing around a little bit with crops,

665
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,359
Speaker 1: you know, even though they're pulling indros out, Um, those

666
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: deer are transitioning from betting to those grain fields. Um,

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00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:34,280
Speaker 1: even just on those edges and indros. So I'm focusing

668
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 1: a little bit more on transition routes. Um, those betting areas.

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Speaker 1: You know, they're going through the funnels to get to

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00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 1: that food. Um. I'm watching those doughs pretty heavily, especially

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00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 1: those mature doughs that are getting bumped around, um to

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00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 1: kind of decide where I'm wanting to set up. So

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00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: starting to focus on those dough betting areas. In past

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00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 1: years in Indiana, when there's been a laid harvest that

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00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 1: carries on into the rout how do you sort of

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00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 1: combat that by having some good encounters. Do you have

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00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: any hot tips for bow hunting white tails when they're

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00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 1: still standing crops into the rut Um, I don't you know,

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00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,320
Speaker 1: it's tough for me to speak to every for everyone

680
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 1: here because I'm hunting a lot of properties that have

681
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 1: postage stamp you know, parcels or wood lots. So we're

682
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: hunting on you know, thirty wood lots um that are

683
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: surrounded by corn. In some places, it is an advantage

684
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 1: because those deer are able to hold on those smaller

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00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 1: pieces or those smaller parcels UM. With that in mind,

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00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 1: I'm keeping pressure down as low as I possibly can

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00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 1: send control as humongous and access uh is critical for

688
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 1: these areas. So with the corns still standing, you know,

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00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,839
Speaker 1: deer are still hanging out in those fields all day long. Um.

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00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 1: So I'm just being extra mindful of obviously win direction

691
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 1: as I'm accessing. But um, you know, as I start

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00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 1: to push in a little bit closer on betting, is

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00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 1: being really really mindful of my ground scent and you

694
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: know how that scent is blown into those areas. So

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00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 1: it's tough hunting these small parcels um, but it can

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00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,800
Speaker 1: be an advantage if you play it right. So you know,

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00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: for an example, we've got these indros that are being

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00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 1: cut out, and typically I'd be hunting over that corn

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00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 1: you know, an entire cut corn field. But we've mixed

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00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: it up a little bit this year and made some

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00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,800
Speaker 1: natural blinds in standing corn um to give us a

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00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 1: little bit of leverage to get closer and and you know,

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00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 1: maintain that control of of the wind. But um, just

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00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: trying to be a little bit more creative, um, you know,

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00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: with with these obstacles, er challenges that we've been presented,

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00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: with super wet conditions and a lot of crops. Going forward,

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Speaker 1: Then in a six week or so, what do you

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00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 1: think that bucket TV is going to be on a

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00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:51,439
Speaker 1: scale of one to ten in Indiana. I'm gonna throw

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00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 1: it out there, I expect, I hope. I'm gonna see

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Speaker 1: about it eight to a nine here over the next

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00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 1: week week and a half. Um, we've got this big

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00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:04,839
Speaker 1: rain event that's moving out here Tuesday. So Tuesday night,

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00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 1: UM should be a pretty pretty exceptional little sit tim

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00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 1: ten degree temperature drop and it should remain consistent over

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Speaker 1: the next five to eight days. UM. So I'm looking

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00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 1: for that activity that we've seen ramp up just kind

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00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,320
Speaker 1: of explode for us here with us next couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: So I'm still gonna say conservatively in eight, because it's

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Speaker 1: just not very often we see a ten um, but

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Speaker 1: eight and a half, I'll be happy with it, all right,

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Speaker 1: t J like your optimism, Good luck with the rest

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Speaker 1: of your fall, and thanks for joining me likewise man,

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Speaker 1: thanks for having me on. And that concludes this week's

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Speaker 1: episode of rout Fresh Radio. Thanks to Nate, greg Lake,

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Speaker 1: and t J for joining me, and thank you guys

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Speaker 1: for listening. As a reminder, the reading materials for this

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Speaker 1: week can be found in the description of the episode.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna find articles like what you need to know

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Speaker 1: about the one running Moon, This strategy will help you

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Speaker 1: kill more running Bucks, pros and cons of rubber boots

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Speaker 1: for archery hunting, and three reasons hunters failed during the rut.

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Speaker 1: at at Wired Hunt. The next time I talk to you,

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Speaker 1: it will finally be November, and I'm sure that our

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Speaker 1: rout reports will finally include some rutting activity. GI am

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Speaker 1: stoked about Until then, stay Wired to Hunt,