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Speaker 2: Joseph Joseph, Oh sorry, I had to get my singing boat,

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Speaker 2: my incense mis VELAs and my friend photo of Kura.

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Speaker 1: Every day you read my mind? Should we virtually join hands?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 1: Should I put my palm up against the screen.

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Speaker 2: Like through the screen?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, obviously, Okay.

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Speaker 2: I'm putting my hand on the screen on the zoom window.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I am.

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Speaker 2: I see lights, camera action? Holi what no Mexico city

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Speaker 2: in the nineteen forties?

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Speaker 1: Are we in the city or on a set?

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Speaker 2: On a set?

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Speaker 1: And wait? Are you wearing chattle suit.

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Speaker 2: At almira como rio and bitch you and the black

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Speaker 2: chaffon prairie dressed girl? This time? I'm La Bigonia and

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Speaker 2: your las Somra. Wait? Were we Mexican movie stars?

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Speaker 1: Well, then those must be our trailers. That big one

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Speaker 2: Oh oh, bedient la Mala or is she not Gotti

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Speaker 2: hurado Liliana. We were a.

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Speaker 1: Brother and sister musical duo from Hali School with generations

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Speaker 1: of Mariacci in our blood. Recently it rod to Mexico

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Speaker 1: of rural laborers turned in national heroes and icons, a

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Speaker 2: Hello, we were extras.

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Speaker 1: Oh damn, let's just get on with the episode. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: probably we need to make some money, aha, listeners. Today's

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Speaker 1: icon is a big, one, huge, massive iconic, a vocalist

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Speaker 2: Not to mention a working class hero who personally knew

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Speaker 2: the real life that his songs described. Today's icon was

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Speaker 2: the kind of person men would actively model their lives

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Speaker 1: Almost like someone who plays a role that you want

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Speaker 2: Oh, a role model.

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Speaker 1: There it is. We're talking, of course about the sane

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Speaker 2: And history is as juicy as a TEAA drink.

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Speaker 1: Ooh, are we doing my ties instead of Margarita's today.

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Speaker 2: I'm not doing a zombie.

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Speaker 1: I want to get stupid for we Senta Now that

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Speaker 1: is a T shirt. Salute Joseph today on becoming an

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Speaker 1: Icon El Charro de guent Titan, we sent the Fefnandez

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Speaker 1: chases his dreams. I'm your host, Lilianavoscuez.

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Speaker 2: And I'm Joseph Carrio and this is Becoming an Icon.

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Speaker 1: A weekly podcast where we give you the rundown on

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Speaker 1: how today's most famous Latin v stars have shaped pop culture.

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Speaker 2: And given the world some extra tubble.

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Speaker 1: Sit back and get comfortable.

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Speaker 2: Because we are going in the only way we know how,

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Speaker 2: with buenas vias.

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Speaker 1: Buenasriesas, some cheese, and a lot of opinions as we

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Speaker 1: relive their greatest achievements on our journey to find out

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Speaker 1: what makes them so iconic. Before we get into the

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Speaker 1: let's talk a little bit about role models.

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Speaker 2: Well, Ursula from The Little Mermaid.

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Speaker 1: You're so random, No, not ursula. But let's get into it.

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Speaker 1: When you were began like a little baby Joseph, who

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Speaker 1: did you want to be like? Or who did you

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Speaker 2: Oh god, who did I see as a role model? Like?

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Speaker 1: Who did you dream of being like? Or similar to?

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Speaker 1: It's weird, y'all, y'all are not ready. Let's just prepare

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Speaker 1: Shusha ginn as Shusha.

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Speaker 2: She was this like nineties like pop star. She had

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Speaker 2: I don't know, it was like this TV show and

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to ask because I feel like that's

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Speaker 2: Like Okay, wait, hold on, who did you want to

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Speaker 1: Angela from Who's the Boss?

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Speaker 2: Wait? You did grow up to be here?

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Speaker 1: I know.

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Speaker 1: But nonetheless, we all have our role models, as random

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Speaker 1: none other than the one the only Pedro in Fane.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, co star, you said we were extras Aina anyway,

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Speaker 1: betherin fantas charisma as both a singer and an actor

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Speaker 2: V sent this mother would take him to the movies

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Speaker 1: Solas, and there in the theater, Vicente would tell his

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Speaker 2: Dude had some strong manifesting powers, but of course it

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Speaker 1: Bowl h I feel like I might know an Aquarius

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Speaker 2: Do they drink that fancy protein powder? Because Aquarius Sun,

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Speaker 1: A classic farm boy with a dream is what I'd

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Speaker 2: At the age of eleven, Vicynthe decided to cut school.

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Speaker 2: He'd been playing the guitar since the age of eight

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Speaker 2: That's scary what you just did there? Do you do

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Speaker 1: Milking cows at two am in a graveyard in the

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Speaker 2: is that a graveyard?

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Speaker 1: No? Mystery's ear just the life in the boonies. Visenta's

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Speaker 1: father punished him for dropping out of school by making

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Speaker 1: And yet these scooby Doo goth cows were wandering around

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Speaker 2: Knees, and after all that, he had to milk the cows. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: But after literally wading through the shit, our boy got

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Speaker 1: From there he started to sing at restaurants and in weddings.

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Speaker 2: You know, the usual track, until the cows came home

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Speaker 2: Well, his dad's milk business went under, is like what

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Speaker 2: So often on this show. Should we be looking at property?

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Speaker 2: Ke and his family went there to do manual labor,

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Speaker 1: We sent the washed cars, shine shoes, and at night

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Speaker 1: After getting hernia as a teenager, visent them would move

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Speaker 2: Which let's talk about it. There is a bit of

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Speaker 2: Tenta knew two things, and knew them well. That he

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Speaker 1: Fichando is basically when an employee gets the patrons to

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Speaker 1: El Mariachi Amanser, El mariachijsel Ula. Tenta's big Fish Seeks

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Speaker 2: Tenta was coming up and turning heads with his voice

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Speaker 1: As fate would have it, on April nineteenth, nineteen sixty six,

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Speaker 2: And the guy's body wasn't even cold before CBS, along

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Speaker 1: And Vicente would give them the voice that they'd been

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Speaker 2: It's nineteen seven and Mexican Ryan Seacrest. Excuse me introduces

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Speaker 2: Vicente Fernandez on stage to a massive television audience.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you are warmer than last time, but still sacrilege anyway.

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Speaker 1: By nineteen seventy, the Vicenta Fernandez train had picked up

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Speaker 1: In introducing Fernandez Simprendomingo, host Raoul Velascom christened him the

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Speaker 1: quote sexy cowboy now, in reference to the cover of

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Speaker 2: Now listeners here, I'm becoming an icon. You know. We

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Speaker 2: So ken Vi Sente Fernandez getty.

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Speaker 1: Short answer, yes, okay, okay, yes, a long answer only

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Speaker 2: Five per say less, say less.

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Speaker 1: Since we don't have video on this podcast, send us

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Speaker 1: and maybe iHeart will give it to us. Let me

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Speaker 1: describe the album cover. So it's Vicente in front of

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Speaker 1: It was good.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. You know, he wouldn't be able to

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Speaker 1: You mean this meaning your current state like this look.

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Speaker 2: I think if it was buttoned up, I would have

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Speaker 1: I think the whole reason people wanted to give it

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Speaker 2: Hello, yeah, I guess, I guess I get it. I

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Speaker 1: This was scandalous in Mexico in nineteen seventy, like fucking scandalous.

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Speaker 2: I believe it. But I'll say this. You know, he's

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Speaker 1: Know, but just the way he's standing and like the

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Speaker 2: Six dude, Stop it's getting hot over here. All I

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Speaker 1: I mean, what about for you? Are we smashing our

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Speaker 2: Till nineteen ninety bitch, I'm just kidding. Probably the same.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I also don't necessarily like Daddy's Like I

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Speaker 2: He's like that mat Yeah, like that man's man's man.

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Speaker 1: He definitely has daddy energy. But you're right, even when

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was like a signor like it felt like it. Well,

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Speaker 2: I blamed a zombie cows too, honest.

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Speaker 1: Visend Fernandez had taken the romantic machismo of the Mariacci

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Speaker 2: It's true and that right there is a four quadrant star,

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Speaker 2: so naturally. Two years later, Vicente Fernandez made the jump

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Speaker 1: In dacosad Gobin, Fernandez plays a humble street taco vendor

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Speaker 2: New car, and the shiny new whip attracts new lady

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Speaker 1: This first movie set the template for several of his

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Speaker 2: More money, more problems, honey. It was the same blueprint

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Speaker 2: as his idol veterin Fante, the classic Mexican cowboy.

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Speaker 1: This was an archetype whose roots reached back to the

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Speaker 2: And more importantly, Tenta had sex appeal. When you paid

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Speaker 2: for a ticket to see the sexy cowboy on screen,

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Speaker 2: you were paying to hear a swoon worthy musical number

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Speaker 2: and picture yourself at the center of a steamy love

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Speaker 1: Frednanguz was star in sixteen movies in the nineteen seventies

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Speaker 1: classics La Le del Monte, El Albanin and Piccaria Mexicani.

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Speaker 2: Is Shado that went was on the big screen, the

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Speaker 2: Mexican Ryan Seacres brought him on the stage, he became

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Speaker 1: With nineteen seventy two album Ariba Juan Fernandez found his

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Speaker 1: signature song Volver, one of the all time classics of

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Speaker 2: Vicente promised himself and then his mother that he become

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Speaker 2: a star again. The man is all about setting and

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Speaker 2: crushing his goals, But there.

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Speaker 1: Were other promises that be sent. There was struggling to

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