WEBVTT - Insider’s Insight #28: For Cop Suey

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Insider's Guide to the Other Side, a production

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<v Speaker 1>of iHeartRadio. Hi, y'all, I'm Julie.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi there, I'm Brenda. Welcome to Insider's Guide to the

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<v Speaker 2>Other Side.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, y'all need to know that we are obsessed with

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<v Speaker 1>everything on the other side.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes we are, because once you learn to navigate the energetic,

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<v Speaker 2>or to some the invisible world, life is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be more fun and much more serene.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh heck, yes it can, because let's be honest, br in,

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<v Speaker 1>earth school is hard. In fact, you taught me.

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<v Speaker 2>That, let's crush earth School together.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, my witchy. It is the best way to start.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm great, how are you?

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<v Speaker 1>Well? Everybody needs to know the snort and the giggling

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<v Speaker 1>starting out. The whole show is if you guys, remember

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how many shows ago, but Brenda did

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<v Speaker 1>our countdown and she did a slight like magic poof

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<v Speaker 1>kind of hand movement for like the countdown to one,

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<v Speaker 1>And so I just did that without either one of

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<v Speaker 1>us expecting it. My body was operating without me involved

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<v Speaker 1>body memory. So anyway, how are you, my witchy poo?

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<v Speaker 2>I am trying to keep warm, still and still chilly here.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, here's I have to tell you my dog, because

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<v Speaker 1>you know I love my dog and more than virtually anything.

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<v Speaker 1>And she's been doing some funny, crazy shit lately. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's been really cold here too, so we have We've

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<v Speaker 1>had a lot of snow, you know, freezing temperatures, and

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes you get snow that falls, but it's only like

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<v Speaker 1>thirty whatever degree, so it looks like it's this wet.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'll open the door to go take Suki out

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<v Speaker 1>for a walk, like to her potty walk, and she'll look,

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<v Speaker 1>she'll turn around and go upstairs. My dog has never

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<v Speaker 1>once anytime I've opened the door. She always goes. But

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<v Speaker 1>in the last week she has been retreating and yeah, mother,

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<v Speaker 1>can we go to Palm Springs? I think that's what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on in her head.

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<v Speaker 2>You let me know when March comes by.

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<v Speaker 1>But she's never done that. It's hilarious to watch her.

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<v Speaker 2>Sicky knife could be great roommates.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, you're going to clean each other's body up though,

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<v Speaker 1>so have fun, both of us. I'm at least trying

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<v Speaker 1>to keep it outside.

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<v Speaker 2>All right. So today we've had an all request insiders

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<v Speaker 2>insight from the one and only Cop Suey.

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<v Speaker 1>Cop Sewet, cop Sewet. So y'all know that cop Suey

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<v Speaker 1>is my niece, that is my age through marriage. And

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<v Speaker 1>she's also so a student slash fan of the WITCHI pooh.

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<v Speaker 1>And so she she lives the life though, and I

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<v Speaker 1>have to and I think I've probably said this many

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<v Speaker 1>times because we've talked about Cops Sue quite a bit

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<v Speaker 1>or Sue, and she really lives the life, like she's

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<v Speaker 1>really looking, she's.

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<v Speaker 2>Doing it, she's doing the work. Yeah she's Yeah, she's

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<v Speaker 2>and she's not afraid to ask questions. I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>No, So just y'all know, if we're not related to you,

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<v Speaker 1>that's okay. You can still ask as many questions as Sue.

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<v Speaker 1>He does, so just like you know, hit us up

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<v Speaker 1>on Instagram, but like we're all in for the questions. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So her first question, though, I have to say, and

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<v Speaker 1>even though we're not related by blood, I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>think we might be related by spirit because this is

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<v Speaker 1>a question I would ask.

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<v Speaker 2>You sell sisters.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we're soul sisters for sure. But so she was

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<v Speaker 1>she called me or I called her whereever it went,

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter, and she was Okay, I have a question.

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<v Speaker 1>I go, what's that? She goes, if we so call

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<v Speaker 1>live these many lives? She's like, what if there's no

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<v Speaker 1>planet for us to come back to? I said, let

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<v Speaker 1>me get back to you. I'm gonna ask Brinda.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice, nice, nice.

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<v Speaker 1>Another snort, two snorts.

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<v Speaker 2>Already, So such an honest question, right as we're facing

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<v Speaker 2>some pretty intense climate situations.

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<v Speaker 1>Well and human warlike, yeah, well there's that we have

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<v Speaker 1>nuclear weapons, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, misbehaving humans. Yes, so if there is no Earth,

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<v Speaker 2>well then that means that we get other possibilities presented

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<v Speaker 2>to us, right first of all, like.

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<v Speaker 1>Living in a black hole or neptune or as everybody

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<v Speaker 1>would expect me to say, right now, uranus exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>That would be disappointed if that doesn't come out of

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<v Speaker 2>your lab. Hope everyone's happy about that. So this is

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<v Speaker 2>the situation. There are the phrase from the Bible that

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<v Speaker 2>gets translated as my father's mansion has many rooms or

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<v Speaker 2>something like that. Right, it's so someone will correct it,

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<v Speaker 2>correct me in instagram. I WoT with the exact phrases,

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<v Speaker 2>but it translates basically as that it literally is the

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<v Speaker 2>many frequencies, the many availabilities in the spirit world. So

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<v Speaker 2>when we drop the body and in the vernacular of

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<v Speaker 2>the Bible, go to heaven. There are many many frequencies

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<v Speaker 2>that we where we reside, so it can be you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you'll have access to many of your loved ones by

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<v Speaker 2>a love connection, so you'll have access to visit them,

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<v Speaker 2>see them, interact with them. But that doesn't mean that's

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<v Speaker 2>where the frequency in which you will reside. Right, So

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<v Speaker 2>we will go to work on different things, to study

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<v Speaker 2>different things, to help cosmic efforts of something else. If

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<v Speaker 2>we're not working to assist people here on earth, right there,

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<v Speaker 2>there are other there's still an existence that is available

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<v Speaker 2>to us, and then there are other dimensions that we

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<v Speaker 2>can come back to in other places get to be

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<v Speaker 2>discovered by humans.

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<v Speaker 1>But can we put in requests?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, you can navigate which it is like the.

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<v Speaker 1>Old MTV show Total Requests Live, Like can we Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I know you don't know what it is, but there

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<v Speaker 1>are people out there, I promise know what t r

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<v Speaker 1>OL is. But I mean for real, like, is that

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<v Speaker 1>a thing? You know? Because I have a list of

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<v Speaker 1>things I'd like to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yes, you will. You will be negotiating that with

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<v Speaker 2>your with your you know, your counsel.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well I want to add on to her question.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course you do you do? You know?

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<v Speaker 1>And it's actually not funny, it's actually it's actually serious

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<v Speaker 1>because my request is I would actually love to be

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<v Speaker 1>a spirit guide.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's that.

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<v Speaker 1>Does it have ever been one?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>But like so if we're living you, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>I loved it. So just you all know my favorite thing.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a million things I love about Brenda's you guys

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<v Speaker 1>very well know, and my one of my favorite things

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<v Speaker 1>is when I asked the question, her eyes go up.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what just happened. When I ask you a

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<v Speaker 1>spirit guide?

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<v Speaker 2>It does not look like you have been a spirit

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<v Speaker 2>guide to date.

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<v Speaker 1>See, that's why I want to be one. Then that

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<v Speaker 1>makes sense. I haven't been a firefighter either, so I

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<v Speaker 1>mean there's a lot of things I haven't done. So

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<v Speaker 1>why can't I get I would really like to be

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<v Speaker 1>a spirit guide. Are they're afraid I'll like kind of

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<v Speaker 1>fuck with my person? Is that they're worried about?

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<v Speaker 2>I know they because they would not allow that to happen. Sure,

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<v Speaker 2>there are governing bodies around and trust me.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh right, it's like everybody's got a boss. Let's be

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<v Speaker 1>we all have a boss.

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<v Speaker 2>That's exactly that is exactly right. So yeah, we're not

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<v Speaker 2>worried about that. But put it in the put it

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<v Speaker 2>in the hopper, put it in the list, and things

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<v Speaker 2>will continue on this way, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, one more question about spirit GUIDs. Do you get

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<v Speaker 1>a pick who you guide or is it like a lottery?

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<v Speaker 2>It's well, there's I would say there's and we'll call

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<v Speaker 2>it an interview process, but it's not. It's more like

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<v Speaker 2>algorithms running who what kind of guide has this type

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<v Speaker 2>of experience things like that, and so when it has

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<v Speaker 2>when they have the right matchup, and it's the whole

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<v Speaker 2>team of spirit guides, right, it's not just one. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not right. It's not just one guide.

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<v Speaker 1>That's fair. Okay, all right, Yeah, I just want to

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<v Speaker 1>see I just want to think about I want to

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<v Speaker 1>get that like all set up in this live so

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<v Speaker 1>I can boom go.

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<v Speaker 2>So get you understand it when you when you're applying

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<v Speaker 2>is what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently, when I have to apply, I mean, is there

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<v Speaker 1>a LinkedIn or something like that for your guide's Like

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<v Speaker 1>you have to put in your you know, your resumes, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Have to work with your team so they know. If

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<v Speaker 2>you inform your team, they'll know. They'll set you up.

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<v Speaker 2>It'll take you a couple of cycles.

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<v Speaker 1>But have you ever been on?

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<v Speaker 2>Have I been? Sir?

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<v Speaker 1>Good?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't think so interesting. I don't know. I've

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<v Speaker 2>never asked. Really, Oh, isn't that interesting?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Because you're only qualified before you, I can't qualify for

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<v Speaker 1>the same spirit eye job as you, I'd lose, so

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<v Speaker 1>I need to like be you know, I need to

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<v Speaker 1>pick an inmate somewhere probably and a state penitentiary that

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<v Speaker 1>they'll probably give me.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's work, they can. They need good guidance, right,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a hard one. Yeah, yeah, that's true. You need

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of and I watched too many prison shows,

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<v Speaker 2>so clearly clearly, no, I for sure, I'm rewatching Orange

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<v Speaker 2>is the New Black?

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<v Speaker 1>Right now? I know it weirdly comforts me. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>understand it.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very strange. Anyway, moving on, I don't probably take

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<v Speaker 1>a quick break or do you have other things you

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<v Speaker 1>want to add?

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<v Speaker 2>No, that's good, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>The next questions are far deeper than this. We promise.

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<v Speaker 2>I do it from you. I'll just do it this way.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't do that shit and welcome back, poof, We're back,

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<v Speaker 1>just like that. Oh my god, hilarious. Okay, so I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still laughing in my head about Poof, We're back.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's actually my job bring down second question.

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<v Speaker 2>I do not have access to the questions, no, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, it's on my notepad. Okay. So I love this

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<v Speaker 1>question so much because it's totally one of my favorite

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<v Speaker 1>cards in the road deck. And I just want to

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<v Speaker 1>say before I actually tell you what the question is

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<v Speaker 1>or share with you what the question is, that I

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<v Speaker 1>love the fact that, again we talked about Sue being

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<v Speaker 1>like she's really doing the work, she's engaging in the spiritual,

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<v Speaker 1>her spiritual practice, spiritual world. She gets guidance from you,

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<v Speaker 1>she's taught by you, and the fact that she's doing

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<v Speaker 1>this and having these questions is it just like it

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<v Speaker 1>makes my heart beam, I know, because I know how

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<v Speaker 1>it can change your life, you know. And so she

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<v Speaker 1>had a really great question because she's been doing readings

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<v Speaker 1>for herself and readings for other people, and she goes,

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<v Speaker 1>she goes, Okay, the damn death card keeps coming up,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course cards, No, I'm like, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>love the death card. She says, I know, I know

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<v Speaker 1>you love the death card, but it keeps coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>But it keeps coming up in this context of grief.

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<v Speaker 1>And she goes, because my interpretation of the death card

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<v Speaker 1>are these are things that we need to face and

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<v Speaker 1>let go. And I think that I think the question is,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, can we should we so called let go

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<v Speaker 1>of grief? And if we should or could by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>have my own answer to this, you know, should we

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<v Speaker 1>let go? And I think that was her question. It

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<v Speaker 1>keeps coming up. There's in this I think people are

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<v Speaker 1>grieving lots of things, loss of level, there was loss, loss, lossless,

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<v Speaker 1>lots of different things, and but grief specifically is you

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<v Speaker 1>know what she asked.

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<v Speaker 2>About, so so many things about this. So the death

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<v Speaker 2>card in to row means endings means completions means releasing

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<v Speaker 2>means you know, awareness of It's also an invitation what

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<v Speaker 2>are you ready to release? Like you know and identify it,

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<v Speaker 2>and then while you're focused on that, something else might

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<v Speaker 2>be might exit left as well, right, So like, like,

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<v Speaker 2>how do I embrace the whole frequency of being complete?

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<v Speaker 2>Is the invitation or knowing that it doesn't mean necessarily

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<v Speaker 2>that someone's going to die, and it can be death.

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<v Speaker 2>So we grieve all kinds of things that aren't actual death,

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<v Speaker 2>but they're just completions. And as many students tell me,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's just so much better to know, and

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm so grateful to have to row to guide me.

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<v Speaker 2>The other thing I just about the death card is

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<v Speaker 2>when you're reading for someone and the death card comes

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<v Speaker 2>up as a reader, especially as a new reader, and

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<v Speaker 2>I consider anyone under three years a new reader, right

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<v Speaker 2>that you'll want to dance around it. You'll want to

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<v Speaker 2>almost try and go, well, something's closing, but that doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>mean it's going to be bad, and dance around it.

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<v Speaker 2>And don't do that, right, that's such a disservice to

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<v Speaker 2>the person who drew the death card that said, hey, look,

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<v Speaker 2>you have this frequency that's coming in that says things

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<v Speaker 2>will be closing or ending. You may know exactly what

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<v Speaker 2>this is about. It may catch you by surprise, but

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<v Speaker 2>know that everything has its natural cycle, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>be present, be present to the things in the people,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know whatever is going on in your world,

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<v Speaker 2>because that will diminish your regret. You know, when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes up, like whatever, whether it's Hey, I was in

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<v Speaker 2>this class and it came to a close, or hey,

0:14:29.920 --> 0:14:33.880
<v Speaker 2>you know whatever it was like, just be present because

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<v Speaker 2>that's the best way you'll have all these experiences and

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<v Speaker 2>memories that you were there for, not distracted by your

0:14:38.440 --> 0:14:41.200
<v Speaker 2>phone or whatever whatever distracts you. So that's the first

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<v Speaker 2>thing I would say. But the other thing about the

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<v Speaker 2>death card is that, as we've talked about grieving and

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<v Speaker 2>death so many times and you know you can't in

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<v Speaker 2>this pod, is that the the grieving part, people get fit,

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<v Speaker 2>fatigued to buy, and society gets impatient with right. Sometimes

0:15:05.800 --> 0:15:09.160
<v Speaker 2>our external tribes get man, are you still there? How

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<v Speaker 2>long are you going to be there? You know? I

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<v Speaker 2>want to go to a concert, you know, I want

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<v Speaker 2>to have fun, you know, or whatever it is, Snap

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<v Speaker 2>out of it and snap out of it, right they

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<v Speaker 2>So there can be an impatience and even a fatigue

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<v Speaker 2>like am I doing this wrong because I'm still so

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<v Speaker 2>sad or I still I can't. I just can't embrace

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<v Speaker 2>the new I can't. It's not like I'm in denial

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<v Speaker 2>that that person's gone or even that opportunity is gone,

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<v Speaker 2>because it can show up that way sometimes. But it's

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<v Speaker 2>not that I'm in denial. But I'm just so sad.

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<v Speaker 2>And the truth is, the more you embrace that sadness

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<v Speaker 2>and honor it and find, you know, a therapy, a

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<v Speaker 2>grief group, something that helps you embrace and express, the

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<v Speaker 2>more quickly, more efficiently you'll be able to move through it.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is really hard for people because it's counterintuitive.

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<v Speaker 2>This is uncomfortable. I'm uncomfortable. I don't like this, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to embrace it. Why would I double down

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<v Speaker 2>on it? Why would I pay someone to talk about it?

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<v Speaker 2>That just is added to insult to injury, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and we avoid that discomfort and when you can share

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<v Speaker 2>it and be held and honored in that sacred space

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<v Speaker 2>of grieving and understanding. As you know we've talked before,

0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:24.600
<v Speaker 2>grieving and that discomfort and that heavy heart is the

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<v Speaker 2>badge of loving something fully right. It's literally something you've

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<v Speaker 2>earned the right to experience to embrace. And so discreating

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<v Speaker 2>space and telling people what you need is really important

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<v Speaker 2>and giving yourself the grace to actually ask what you

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<v Speaker 2>need and get what you need and it will take

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<v Speaker 2>care of itself. There's no timeline for grief. There's still

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<v Speaker 2>you know, people who've been gone and double digits that

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<v Speaker 2>when I talk about I still tear up and never

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<v Speaker 2>apologize for that. I'm sorry if you're uncomfortable, but I.

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<v Speaker 1>Might that's on you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mad say that, but you know, I'm like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I love this person so much. You know, there's no

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<v Speaker 2>way I'm not going to tear up that they are

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<v Speaker 2>not standing in front of me right now.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no way that happened to me just yesterday. Oh well,

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<v Speaker 1>of course it did, because you talked about it, so

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<v Speaker 1>of course it did, and because Cop Suey asked about it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>i'd actually have met this guy who I just adore,

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<v Speaker 1>like I feel like we are past life kind of

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<v Speaker 1>good to see again kind of folks.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's a writer, and he was sharing with me

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<v Speaker 1>one of the stories he's like, he's written plays and

0:17:41.080 --> 0:17:45.040
<v Speaker 1>scripts for films and things like that, and so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>part of how I communicate, as we all know, is

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<v Speaker 1>by stories. And so we were talking about a different

0:17:49.840 --> 0:17:52.280
<v Speaker 1>aspect of one of the stories that he wrote, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was telling him a story about my mother as

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<v Speaker 1>by way of example of this one particular screenplay he

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<v Speaker 1>was writing. And as I was talking, I was in tears,

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<v Speaker 1>talking about my mother.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course you are.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course I was right. I mean, in two weeks

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be thirteen years and as society would

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<v Speaker 1>have it, I should be done. I am I'm never

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<v Speaker 1>going to be done. And it's and I'm so okay

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<v Speaker 1>with it because that you know, you taught me early

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<v Speaker 1>on and I just so have carried this around with me,

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<v Speaker 1>is that grief is a badge for love. And the

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<v Speaker 1>second that I don't feel that I would be grieving,

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<v Speaker 1>what's wrong with me? Yeah, it's like if I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>grieving that if I and I don't mean it's not

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<v Speaker 1>every day, I don't carry around the same sadness that

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<v Speaker 1>I did, you know, thirteen years ago when things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm still moved by the depth of love that

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<v Speaker 1>I have for her she had for me, the wonderfulness

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<v Speaker 1>of everything that she was that's still there. And if

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<v Speaker 1>I did and like I actually hindsight, if I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have have the waterworks didn't start, I would actually be concerned.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well then we'll know that you definitely have a

0:19:06.600 --> 0:19:07.400
<v Speaker 2>walk in going on.

0:19:07.520 --> 0:19:11.080
<v Speaker 1>So yes, I'm definitely wrong exactly, But I also we

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<v Speaker 1>all know I I I love big and I grieve hard. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm it's like I agrieve hard and I am

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<v Speaker 1>not ashame of it, shamed at all of it. And

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<v Speaker 1>uh and I think so, I think it was just

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<v Speaker 1>interesting that she asked that question. I think it's interesting

0:19:27.880 --> 0:19:33.359
<v Speaker 1>that you know, there is a delineation of you know

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<v Speaker 1>that the death card and and how how we read

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<v Speaker 1>it and how we also perceive like something may be

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<v Speaker 1>coming to a close and it doesn't have to be

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<v Speaker 1>a person. If it is a person, that's a different

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<v Speaker 1>conversation about you know, the end of something, so to speak.

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<v Speaker 1>And I.

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<v Speaker 2>Think also just acknowledging like it's okay to take time

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<v Speaker 2>to grief and and you know, even there's a great

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<v Speaker 2>book out there, this's going to be a total tangent

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<v Speaker 2>but called Burnout, called the Ghost Photographer that well, that too,

0:20:11.200 --> 0:20:14.720
<v Speaker 2>but but it's a book. It's a book on body

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<v Speaker 2>cycles and how how your body handles stress, right, and

0:20:17.440 --> 0:20:21.120
<v Speaker 2>so it's a very it seems tangential by that. It's

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<v Speaker 2>Burnt Out by the Nagowski Twins. I can't Emily and

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<v Speaker 2>something else I can't remember what the names are, but

0:20:27.440 --> 0:20:31.760
<v Speaker 2>the Nagowski twins wrote this book and it's great. But

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<v Speaker 2>one of the things they talk about to recover from

0:20:34.640 --> 0:20:40.320
<v Speaker 2>stress is purposeful crying. Like this, set aside time to

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<v Speaker 2>play the sad songs, go through the photo book, you know,

0:20:45.560 --> 0:20:49.320
<v Speaker 2>smell the person's clothing whatever, like whatever it is, put

0:20:49.400 --> 0:20:52.400
<v Speaker 2>aside that time, and you know it. And you think

0:20:52.440 --> 0:20:54.720
<v Speaker 2>you're never going to stop crying, and you will when

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<v Speaker 2>you give it all this space instead of trying to

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<v Speaker 2>control it, you will actually stop crying after I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>like twenty minutes or something. It's like twenty to thirty minutes.

0:21:03.480 --> 0:21:07.919
<v Speaker 2>Give yourself a window. But like it's it. Ca'st really

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<v Speaker 2>helpful for the body to recover, to have these kind

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<v Speaker 2>of outlets.

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<v Speaker 1>So, yeah, it's called burnout.

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<v Speaker 2>It has a long subtitle. I can't remember what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's I think it's called burnout. How to

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<v Speaker 2>Recover by completing the stress cycle or something like that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so I.

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<v Speaker 1>Know where I'm going to head after our recording on

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<v Speaker 1>my audible and.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me just say this and do it on audible.

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<v Speaker 2>Because they read their own work. I always love it

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<v Speaker 2>when authors read their own work and they are hysterical.

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<v Speaker 2>They are hysterical. Yeah, oh that's for good funny, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's very funny.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well, I that is actually that's really great advice,

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<v Speaker 1>and I will take you up on it to read

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<v Speaker 1>it or listen to it.

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<v Speaker 2>You sound so surprised.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'm not surprised at all. It's just I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>expect you're going to give us a recommendation.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that.

0:22:02.320 --> 0:22:04.600
<v Speaker 1>And I think it was a great question. So thank

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<v Speaker 1>you quick, yeah, thank you, cop Sue, and we'll be

0:22:07.880 --> 0:22:08.879
<v Speaker 1>right back with a p s A.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, and we're back.

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<v Speaker 1>It's I feel like I'm five and laughing at the

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<v Speaker 1>same joke, but it's so good.

0:22:26.640 --> 0:22:28.320
<v Speaker 2>Okay, we're having fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Oof, we're back. Okay. So there is there was a

0:22:35.680 --> 0:22:44.480
<v Speaker 1>situation that somebody had to deal with where where uh uh,

0:22:44.800 --> 0:22:47.399
<v Speaker 1>somebody claimed because of their in this case, it was

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<v Speaker 1>a religion that just them being present would clear room.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think the p s A is give us

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<v Speaker 1>our PSA. So yeah, you got the good PSA.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is for someone who believes that their presence

0:23:04.800 --> 0:23:09.040
<v Speaker 2>will energetically clear room, and someone who has not been

0:23:09.920 --> 0:23:17.080
<v Speaker 2>trained or in energetic dynamics, but is very convicted in

0:23:17.160 --> 0:23:21.040
<v Speaker 2>his religious practice. Right, it was at a fair statement.

0:23:21.480 --> 0:23:26.080
<v Speaker 2>That's very fair, Okay, So this is my PSA is

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<v Speaker 2>just because you saw something on TikTok doesn't mean you

0:23:29.000 --> 0:23:32.400
<v Speaker 2>know how to do it. Okay, that's it. Just because

0:23:33.080 --> 0:23:35.359
<v Speaker 2>just because you saw it on TikTok doesn't mean the

0:23:35.400 --> 0:23:38.400
<v Speaker 2>person who who posted that knows how to do it either.

0:23:38.560 --> 0:23:41.879
<v Speaker 2>Like we have to be there. There are things we

0:23:41.920 --> 0:23:44.080
<v Speaker 2>can wing and you know it's fine, or you have

0:23:44.160 --> 0:23:46.439
<v Speaker 2>some experience. We don't know if it's effective, but there

0:23:46.480 --> 0:23:48.840
<v Speaker 2>are some other things that you don't want to wing

0:23:49.000 --> 0:23:51.280
<v Speaker 2>because it will boomerang back and explode in your face.

0:23:51.680 --> 0:23:55.280
<v Speaker 2>So so if this person wants to go ahead and

0:23:55.400 --> 0:24:01.760
<v Speaker 2>energetically clear room with prayer, that is a lovely offering

0:24:02.160 --> 0:24:05.840
<v Speaker 2>and we don't know that what Depending on what's going

0:24:05.880 --> 0:24:08.440
<v Speaker 2>on in that room, that prayer could end up being

0:24:08.480 --> 0:24:11.920
<v Speaker 2>fuel for the fire of destruction, right, So we have

0:24:12.080 --> 0:24:14.480
<v Speaker 2>to know what we're doing. Do not mess around. We've

0:24:14.480 --> 0:24:18.359
<v Speaker 2>covered all kinds of episodes of clearing. Please feel free

0:24:18.359 --> 0:24:22.000
<v Speaker 2>to scour back. Know what you're doing, Keep you and

0:24:22.040 --> 0:24:25.399
<v Speaker 2>your family safe, keep the spaces safe, because you could

0:24:25.680 --> 0:24:26.760
<v Speaker 2>be part of the problem.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, and for real, real, the if if anybody's

0:24:32.000 --> 0:24:35.920
<v Speaker 1>dealing with like a conjured energy, they laugh at that shit. Yeah,

0:24:36.040 --> 0:24:38.880
<v Speaker 1>because that is you can the plane that they operate on.

0:24:39.080 --> 0:24:43.919
<v Speaker 2>You can hear them. You can hear them cackling. So entertained.

0:24:44.480 --> 0:24:46.120
<v Speaker 2>Do not do it. Do not do it.

0:24:46.320 --> 0:24:47.960
<v Speaker 1>Do not do it exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>And so if this person right, because this came to

0:24:52.480 --> 0:24:56.080
<v Speaker 2>us third party, right this, if this person whose friend

0:24:56.200 --> 0:25:01.240
<v Speaker 2>believes like, let you let that friend go, had an attempt,

0:25:01.359 --> 0:25:03.760
<v Speaker 2>but you know, the person who's one degree from you

0:25:03.840 --> 0:25:06.840
<v Speaker 2>should not be in this space.

0:25:07.400 --> 0:25:09.120
<v Speaker 1>It's like, be far far away to get out.

0:25:09.440 --> 0:25:14.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, far far away. Do not engage. Do not engage. Yeah, fast,

0:25:14.880 --> 0:25:19.480
<v Speaker 2>and look like if you are talking about Catholic priests

0:25:19.720 --> 0:25:24.280
<v Speaker 2>or something like that, not Catholic practitioners, but Catholic priests,

0:25:24.280 --> 0:25:24.760
<v Speaker 2>they are.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually you mean parishioners. What did I say, practitioners?

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<v Speaker 2>Practitioners, I thinks.

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<v Speaker 1>And the fact that I had the fact that I

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<v Speaker 1>had to correct that is actually quite humorous.

0:25:36.400 --> 0:25:39.320
<v Speaker 2>But in my mind that's what I said. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't okay, thank you for the correction. That was helpful.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry, but if because actually it doesn't matter what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 3>but the Catholic priests are actually trained in this an exorcism,

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<v Speaker 3>not all of them, but they they have access to

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<v Speaker 3>people who are trained.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's a different deal. Like if you have a

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<v Speaker 2>Catholic priest to who is trained in exorcisms and clearing,

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<v Speaker 2>that's one thing that's that's real. Right, they've done the training.

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<v Speaker 1>Watch the the Exorcists.

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<v Speaker 2>You'll totally know. Do not watch the Exorcist.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not a comedy, and neither's Poultergeist. What you're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to say.

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<v Speaker 2>Poltergeist is a comedy.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's funny. I just brought that up the

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<v Speaker 1>other day. Uh, we have a friend here named is Sharon,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't know how oh I was talking about

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<v Speaker 1>when I taught at USC and Poultergeist was the assignment

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<v Speaker 1>I gave my class and how they went and how

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<v Speaker 1>you said Poultergeist is not a comedy, but how my

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<v Speaker 1>class one of the groups came back with an idea

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<v Speaker 1>to partner with Chipolte and they wanted to call it Chipultergeist,

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<v Speaker 1>and they thought they wanted to have ghost pepper like

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<v Speaker 1>hot sauce and stuff. That's funny, that is that's the

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<v Speaker 1>greatest class. Yeah, that I taught. But they literally came

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<v Speaker 1>back and said, when we were sitting we're all having

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<v Speaker 1>dinner at Chipolte and so I said, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>would it be cool if they had chipoltterr Geist here?

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<v Speaker 1>That was my kind of person.

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<v Speaker 2>People are very creative, So that's my answer to that situation. People,

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<v Speaker 2>do you know PSA, be careful, be smart, do your homework.

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<v Speaker 1>So stop, drop and roll.

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<v Speaker 2>That's fine. Nice.

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<v Speaker 1>I decided to give my dog a little kiss on

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<v Speaker 1>the nose because she's crowding me anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>On that note, so we hope we answered some of

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