1 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 1: If it doesn't work, you're just not using enough. You're 2 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: listening to Software Radio Special Operations, Military news on straight 3 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: talk with the guys in the community and the long 4 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: and everyone. Welcome back to softwarep Radio on time on 5 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 1: target Software Radio. We're trying to bring you the very 6 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 1: best in military and breaking news what's going on around 7 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: the world. I'm your host today, Steve Balistreri, stepping in 8 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: for Brandon Webu. Unfortunately at the last minute couldn't be here, 9 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: but we have a great podcast lined up for you guys. Today. 10 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: We're gonna be talking with Will Chesney. He was already 11 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: on the line with us. Will was a Navy seal. 12 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: He just the book and we're gonna be talking to 13 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: him about that. But first we want to welcome him 14 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 1: to the podcast. Will, thank you for taking the time 15 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: to join us today. We really appreciate it. And Brandon 16 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: really wanted to be here and do this, and something 17 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: came up, and you know it had to be important 18 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 1: because they asked the s F guy to step in, right, Yeah, no, 19 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: I appreciate you having me on, no worries, We'll make 20 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 1: it work. So you knew it had to be important 21 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: for him to ask as Special Forces gain. So May 22 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: is the National Military Appreciation Month, and you know, we'll 23 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: be doing a bunch of stuff that recognizes an honors 24 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: military servicemen and women. But today we're gonna be talking 25 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 1: about a four legged member of the military when we 26 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: get into this. So this is really going to be 27 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: interesting and I'm looking forward to talking to you about that. 28 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: But first let's get a little bit of your background. 29 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: When did you join the Navy and how did you 30 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: come about becoming a Navy Seal. Join the Navy right 31 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: after high school as a kid, always wanted to serve 32 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: my country, probably around middle school, and decided I wanted 33 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: to be a seal. I love the water. My grandpa 34 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 1: was in the Navy. I heard buds was pretty hard, 35 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: you know, basically worthy, much like everybody don't here knows 36 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 1: that everybody should know what that is. But so I 37 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 1: wanted to test myself. I love the water, so the Navy. 38 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 1: It was actually signed up when I was seventeen, so 39 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: I had to do the delayed entry program and parents 40 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 1: had to sign the waiver. My dad was all about it. 41 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 1: My mom she took a second when she came along. 42 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: They knew once I was once I was eighteen, it 43 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 1: was gonna happen. So I know that feeling because I 44 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: enlisted to being SF and my father knew what that was. 45 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 1: My mother did not, And when she found out that, 46 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 1: you know, what I was joining to do, she wasn't 47 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 1: very happy with the number three sons. So yeah, because 48 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: she didn't like the idea that you'll be jumping out 49 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 1: of airplanes and doing kind of crazy stuff. So how 50 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: long were you a Navy seal before you got into 51 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: the dog handling program? Did a couple of deployments at 52 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: stilled Team four, you know, three or four years when 53 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 1: I got selected for Development Group. On my first deployment 54 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,359 Speaker 1: to Afghanistan with my squadron, I just saw how valuable 55 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: the dogs were. One of the things in the book 56 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: is I remember walking into the team room once and 57 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: somebody going to raise your hands. Somebody, ever dog has 58 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: ever saved your life? I thank everybody in the team 59 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: room raised your hand, like that's one of the stories. 60 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 1: You said everybody had at least one dog story. It's 61 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: like they're not joking, like dogs actually saying their pass. 62 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: It's like, okay. And then I got to see that 63 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: first handle on that deployment and I love dogs. I 64 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: always have as a kid. You know, I needed a 65 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: job the community. You gotta have another collateral duty. I 66 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: was like, that's if I handle a dog, which is 67 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: a huge responsibilito, and you're like asking a dog to 68 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: do what like babysitting a kid on target? But if 69 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: you're able to be used and you can save one 70 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: of your guys from getting injured or killed, plus you're 71 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: more of an asset, it's gonna get you out there 72 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: more like, Yeah, that's awesome. I've always wondered. You know, 73 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: we didn't use I'm dating myself every little older than you. 74 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: Dogs weren't used very much in my time. They came 75 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: about right after I left and we saw more and 76 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: more of those. And I was always intrigued by that 77 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: because we know how how intelligent these working dogs can 78 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: be and everything that they're capable of doing. So I 79 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 1: was curious how you came about that. So you volunteered 80 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: to be a dog handler? I did. There wasn't a 81 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 1: whole lot of guys that I wanted to and everybody 82 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: wants to U be a dog handler. I was one 83 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 1: of those guys, and so as soon as I brought 84 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: up interest to my You know, I made myself more 85 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 1: available to the handler and I would spend more time 86 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:45,239 Speaker 1: with dogs and him, and eventually, you know, my team leaders. 87 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: Something was just the decision was made pretty quick. As 88 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 1: soon as I get back in my deployment, I'll be 89 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 1: going handler school. I can't have a dog. How long 90 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: is that course for the human handler? Around nine weeks 91 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: is what we did. That was great. I was like, awesome, 92 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: awesome course, man, I learned so much. I was a 93 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: seal that wasn't the dog handler. I had no dogs 94 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:09,359 Speaker 1: growing up. I love dogs, but and no, what I 95 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 1: was talking about, man, just using my voice inflection, was 96 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 1: let me think about it. You're surrounded by a bunch 97 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: of team guys. That's all we do is grab bass jokes. 98 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: So for me to go all this craziness just to 99 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:27,679 Speaker 1: make a dog happy, like now I'm good, like good boy, 100 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,919 Speaker 1: who you know kind of thing. But after a while, 101 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 1: I don't care anymore. Like once you see just like 102 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: that's how you communicate with the dog. You see it, 103 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 1: you see it in their eyes and they pick it 104 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: up and they're doing a great job, like you're having 105 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: a conversation. But you have to do it a certain way. 106 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: But yeah, that was one of the hardest things for me. 107 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: And how long is the training for the dog? We 108 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: know we're picking up trained somewhat, and then we just 109 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: add in our own training and we take out what 110 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:56,919 Speaker 1: we don't need and we put in what we need. 111 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: Thinks a minute. We have great people, great trainers. They're 112 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: to do that for us. Because not only do they 113 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: do that for us get us ready for the deployment, 114 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: they pair used together because you know, every person is 115 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: different and every dog is different. You need to make 116 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: that You got to make that right connection or be 117 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: a good team. And those guys really knew they'd been 118 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: around a minute and they all came together. I was 119 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: actually supposed to get a dog named Falco from my 120 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: first deployment. He sacrificed his life one night saving ours. 121 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: When I got back, it was all new dogs and 122 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: it was new handlers as well. We had in a 123 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 1: mix of m a so mastered arms would be in 124 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: there with us. Those guys definitely earned their keep and 125 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: some seals, so we had both. The Amaze were more 126 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 1: comfortable on the dogs side obviously, so they would teach 127 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 1: us dog stuff and we would teach the Amaze seal 128 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: stuff and h It was a great relationship, some of 129 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: the best times I've had. But we all had new dogs, 130 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:49,559 Speaker 1: so it was really we had to make those trains 131 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: because there was two dogs in the beginning that I 132 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: really really stuck out in my mind when one was 133 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: Cairo and one was Bronco. Just having those trainers to 134 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: make that to watch you handle the dog and we 135 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: all rotate it through. Every handler had handled every new dog, 136 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: and they just watched us and then they made those 137 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: the right fits. And you know, I didn't really know 138 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: what I was talking about. I saw both dogs. I'm like, 139 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: I like both these dogs. I liked all the dogs. 140 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: All the dogs are awesome. I don't know what I'm 141 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: talking about. I'm see this is the all need to be. 142 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: I walked into the office. One of the guys is like, hey, 143 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: you're getting Cairo. I'm like, cool, let's do this, all right? 144 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: And it was great. Obviously it worked out well. Obviously, yes, 145 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: And how long did it take YouTube guys to bond? 146 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: It was pretty quick. Was Chill was obviously stand office 147 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: at first. He was an attack dog. He's a working dog. Like, 148 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: all right, you don't mean they're not a toy. They're 149 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: working dog. We consider I'm a weapon all those things, 150 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: you know, So at first it is what it is. 151 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: It looks like a seventy pound wolf. I don't really know. 152 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: But after a couple of weeks he was in bed 153 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: with me, you know, he'd be I'd have to kick 154 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: him out of bed. You know. We also wanted to 155 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: make sure that wasn't gonna be an issue with him 156 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: being too much, too much personal time, if you would, 157 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: impete and his working ability, I guess, but he was 158 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: always a really hard worker. I was able to towards 159 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: the beginning. You know, it didn't take him long to 160 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: warm up to me, and like, all right, I saw 161 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: his personality. We messed really quick. I had him in 162 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: bed with me and he would like, he would roll 163 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: over and he would hit me in the face with 164 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: his paws all the time. And I'm like, dude, it 165 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: sounds like my English bulldog. Now. But she's not a 166 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:28,679 Speaker 1: working dog. She's just a big old lap dog. Again. 167 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: She's actually upset with me right now because I have 168 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: the door clothes. Otherwise she'd be a pain in the butt. 169 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: But speaking of Cairo, I read somewhere where unlike a 170 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: lot of working dogs. He could turn it off when 171 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: you weren't working. He could be like just a regular 172 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: role pet. It's just semi pet. I guess you could 173 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: say when you guys weren't in a combat environment. Definitely. 174 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,199 Speaker 1: You know you always treat the dogs with respect. They 175 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:56,439 Speaker 1: are working animals. But some dogs have that switch. You know, 176 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: you throw the vest time to go to work, and 177 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 1: they turn it on when to get back it's time 178 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: to hang around the boys. Sorry for they can turn 179 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: off that switch. You know, what you're asking the animals 180 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: is you're asking to go into dark rooms, get in 181 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,319 Speaker 1: a flight with somebody twice their size of bad guy 182 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: twice their size. And not only do that, they got 183 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 1: to be able to skydive fest everywhere that we go, 184 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: they go. So just think of that. You know, those 185 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: dogs are not easily selected. It's like, you know, the 186 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 1: top five of one percent of the one per centers. 187 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: And then you're asking and then not only can he 188 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: do that tearing that switch off, not all the dogs 189 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: are able to do that. You're asking a lot of 190 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: that dog. A lot of those dogs just have work modive. 191 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 1: You just know what they are. They're working animals. They're 192 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: handlers can usually, you know, play with them a little bit, 193 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: but nobody else because you never know what's gonna happen. 194 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 1: With Cairo. I could take him around the whole command. 195 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: He would lean up against you and he'd cover your 196 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: pants and hair like they take him into the offices. 197 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 1: He love the women, all the ladies loving. He'd rub 198 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: up against him and he'd cover their dresses and they're like, yeah, 199 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: you're wearing black or whatever shows up. He had a 200 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: pair of doll disease, so he had yuck mouth, like 201 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 1: terrible yuck mouth. He just put his face, he leaned 202 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: up against your covery with hair and he would just 203 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 1: blow that hot trash breath. Everybody loved him, like, you know, 204 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: even the guys I say they were, even the guys 205 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,719 Speaker 1: that were allergic to him, they like it was it 206 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: was a good dog. So I don't know what what 207 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: you can tell us about. I mean, we've all read 208 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 1: the stories about the ub outraged and you were there 209 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: obviously with the dog, and you know he was one 210 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 1: of the first ones on the ground, was he not? 211 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: You've seen zero dark dirty right, same thing. I'm just kidding. 212 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. Well, I don't know I mean, you know, 213 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:45,439 Speaker 1: we always assumed they when Hollywood makes an they take liberties. 214 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 1: You know. Our job that night was too was on 215 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: the ground with him. I was to put the dog 216 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: in the position the best to utilize his nose. He 217 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: was there to detect explosive odor man odor. We did 218 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 1: a couple of sweeps of the parameter or he was 219 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: looking for any kind of I D s or tunnel systems, 220 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: anything excusing the nose. And once we felt comfortable around 221 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: the perimeter, we moved to the inside where I did 222 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 1: a sweep of the first floor and then second four. 223 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: We were looking for explosives in there as well or 224 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: any any hidden rooms. There's any booby traps, so you know, 225 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: just using them, putting them in the positions where you 226 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: need to be used. And then once we were done, 227 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,559 Speaker 1: we ex filled them. I remember landing when we got 228 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: back walking into the hangar. We accomplished the mission, like 229 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: everybody was alive. Okay, the most rule one of my life, 230 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: and I got to do it with my dog. It's cool, 231 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: you know, like I'll never forget that moment. It was 232 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 1: like everybody made it. Everybody's okay, we did it. Everybody's 233 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: cool and I can do with my dog. How long 234 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 1: do the the handlers and the dog stay in service. 235 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: I mean, like you mentioned a couple of times already, 236 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: you're putting a lot on an animal that's working with us. 237 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:57,959 Speaker 1: How long a career did those dogs at It just depends, 238 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: you know, maybe the dog gets injured, which Cairo had 239 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:04,319 Speaker 1: been injured, but he got shot in the previous But 240 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: it's all the situation will depending, just like any person 241 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: is different. The trainers always kept an eye on them, 242 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 1: the people that were in charge of doing that. Just 243 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 1: when he was showing signs of his age, they made 244 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: the call to retirement. And he was such a good 245 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:16,959 Speaker 1: working dog that I know he keeps saying it, but 246 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: he really was. He was a plug and play kind 247 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:20,959 Speaker 1: of dog. He was a spare dog and dog it hurt, 248 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: that got hurt, He's okay, go grab Cairo. He was 249 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: a really good worker. It just made sense to keep him. 250 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: They kept him for a long time. Then you know, 251 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:32,319 Speaker 1: eventually he showed signs of his old age and Paul 252 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: was made. It ended up being perfect timing because I 253 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: was coming to the end of my career t V. 254 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: I that kind of kind of covers in the book 255 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: kind of my story. But it was really good timing 256 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: because he would have gotten retired and I was still working. 257 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,199 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have been able to take him. I was 258 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: a steal. I was a single seal. Like he would 259 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 1: have went to another home they didn't have. I had 260 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,439 Speaker 1: to put in paperwork and they evaluate where he's going. 261 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: These are working animals. You're not just like, oh yeah, 262 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 1: take him so right. I had my issues. So since 263 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: I was able to be there for him and I 264 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: was just going to a lot of medical appointments, put 265 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: in the paper work. They saw that the timing was okay. 266 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: I was there for him to take care of him, 267 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:10,199 Speaker 1: and he was. He had a pretty rough time towards 268 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: the end, in a really rough time, and he kind 269 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: of took care of me too. It was great having 270 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: him home. I saw a picture of you two guys 271 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:19,599 Speaker 1: on your motorcycle. Dude, I thought that people love it. 272 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: I thought that that was awesome. I didn't love the 273 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 1: pictures thing. I didn't nervous people taking pictures. I thought like, 274 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 1: you don't run into me, or I didn't love tak 275 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: getting you know, but it was so much fun. I 276 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:30,959 Speaker 1: think he loved it too. Put the doggles on him 277 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: and we'll just go ride around the beach. And who 278 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: had a boat. He liked going on the boat. I 279 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 1: don't think you love the water, you know sometimes, but 280 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 1: I don't think he loved the water, But he loved 281 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: being on the boat, just riding. He loved the side 282 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 1: car too. We had some really good times. Well he 283 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 1: turned He was really the only guy that turned into 284 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:52,199 Speaker 1: a celebrity. I mean, everybody knew who Cairo was after 285 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:55,959 Speaker 1: the mission because that was it was pretty quick, and 286 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 1: you know, that's kind of one of the reasons they're 287 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: doing the book Piece of History. Cairo's name was in 288 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 1: the media, and then after that happened, there was some 289 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 1: articles out there that weren't completely factual. And I even 290 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: saw people claiming to have him, Like, wow, that's not true. 291 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: I read books growing up before go into this seal program. 292 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: I'm sure you read books before joining the military. This 293 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: can I not only make people want to join the 294 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: Navy or the military or be a dog handler or 295 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: a seal. I think it's just it's a piece of history. 296 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: Gets to tell his story. It gets a brain attention, 297 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: Like how many we know a lot of guys just 298 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: aren't in the talk, there's a lot more people that 299 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 1: did a lot more stuff than I ever did. Let's 300 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: just go ahead and throw that out there. I was 301 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: very lucky to be you get to do what I did. 302 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: I get to tell Cairo story, bring attention to just 303 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: the amazing things these dogs can do. All service dogs 304 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: is to tell that story. And then it also brings 305 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: attention to kind of my personal issues as well, and 306 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: a lot of people are have in trouble right now. 307 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: My whole transition was rough. I'm still still dealing with 308 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: a bunch of issues. But one of my main messag 309 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: just like if you're having problems is to reach out 310 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: to people. We'll reach out to your buddies, like if 311 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: you know somebody that might be have an issue. I 312 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: didn't reach out. It took my best friend kind of 313 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: kicking me in the ass. He was going to a 314 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: brain treatment place. I wasn't going anywhere. I was kind 315 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: of just self secluding, drinking myself to death, which I'm 316 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: sure a lot of people can relate, and I just 317 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: thought it was doing fine. I don't know what I 318 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: was thinking. My mind was kind of messed up, so 319 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: it's hard to put your finger on it. When it's 320 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: your own brain kind of thing, I guess. And the 321 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: self medicating with alcohol definitely wasn't helping anything. Not trying 322 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: to blame at all on the TV eyes or whatever. 323 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 1: It was a lot of my own faults. There's great 324 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: people out there, and I've met so many people that 325 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: want to help, have been through multiple treatment facilities on 326 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: brain health, and there's hormone health, there's breathing, there's meditating, 327 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: float tanks, there's yo, there's just community community, there's all 328 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: kinds of these different I mean, I can literally probably 329 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: stay here for ten minutes off the top of my head, 330 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: and I say, just reach out, reach out to a friend, 331 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: try these different modality because there's a lot of them, 332 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: and there's a lot of good people that are willing 333 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: to help you try them out. And just because one 334 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: doesn't work doesn't mean you know, give it a good 335 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: shot and try a couple of different ones. I heard 336 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: about intermittent fasting from one of my best friends, Like 337 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: I can remember the conversation of him looking me in 338 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: the face, and he wasn't exactly he didn't call it that, 339 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: but he was said basically what intermitute fasting was. And 340 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: I love that guy and I didn't listen to him. 341 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: Sure yeah, blew right past me. And during my some 342 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: of my rough times, I had learned about intermi fasting, 343 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: and somehow that story came across and I tried it 344 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: and it was a huge That was one of the 345 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: huge benefits. You know. I lost seventy pounds and I 346 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: was just like, hey, I heard that a long time 347 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: ago from one of my best friends. I didn't listen. 348 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: I heard it again and I tried it and it 349 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: was awesome. So, you know, me telling my story kind 350 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: of helps people out and they can relate. I'm like, 351 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: all right, there's all these resources out there. If I 352 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: can kind of point people in the right direction. Perfect 353 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: If people want me to shut up, I'll shut up, 354 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 1: you know. But at the end of the day, Cairo 355 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: story is is told. We did a really great job. 356 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: Joe Laden helped me tell his story. We did a 357 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 1: really good job. I hope I did him right, and 358 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: I hope you know we did we did a good job. 359 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,439 Speaker 1: I've got did nothing but good feedback so far. So 360 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 1: it's really good to see that. That's great. I mean, yeah, 361 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: it's it's it's gotta be a difficult cult proposition to 362 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 1: sit down and think about writing a book about this, 363 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:23,880 Speaker 1: because you know you you delph into not only your 364 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 1: time with the dog, but your own personal stuff. And 365 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 1: putting your own personal issues out there for the whole 366 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: world to see has to be difficult. It's terrible. This 367 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: is a completely one a d out from what I'm 368 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 1: used to doing. I mean, I did my Brutlins podcast 369 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: was my first one, and I was like, it's still 370 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: not easy for me to do. It's being more and 371 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: more comfortable. You go looking back at that one and 372 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: it's like, man, is it's completely not normal for you 373 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:51,679 Speaker 1: know the deal we just don't talk about If I 374 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: get to talk about my dog, I'll talk about Cairo 375 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: all day long. You know what I'm saying. I want 376 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: to talk about me. I don't who cares what I 377 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: did Like those guys, I did way more stuff I 378 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 1: I earned. I worked my ass off to be there 379 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 1: and it was great, it was. But I know I 380 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 1: want to talk about me, like I'll talk about Cairo 381 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 1: and awesome things those dogs do and people that still 382 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,679 Speaker 1: support the foundation that support those working dogs, and what 383 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 1: support animals can do, and yeah, the whole personal story. Man, 384 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: that gets hard. Too, but it is what it is. 385 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 1: If it helps people, well fu Yeah, like I'll suck 386 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 1: it up. Yeah, Hey, I mean I think it's great 387 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 1: that you're doing that. I mean, I know a lot 388 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 1: of guys from my era that are having issues, myself included, 389 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 1: and it's tough. It's it's tough for me to talk 390 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: to my therapists. So I know what you're going through, man, 391 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:43,919 Speaker 1: I mean, not to the extent you are, but you 392 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I know what you're saying. It's 393 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 1: tough to talk about yourself that I'm I kind of 394 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 1: feel the same way. You know, it's easy to talk 395 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 1: about your friends, talk about your dog, but when it's 396 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: time to talk about personal stuff, it's it's difficult. And 397 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: I hats off to you, man, I think this is 398 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: a great thing. Plus the fact people are I mean 399 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 1: they're genuinely entuced about reading about the dog. I think, 400 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 1: you know, like we said, he's kind of a celebrity, 401 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,439 Speaker 1: and uh, I think that's awesome. You know, was it 402 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:16,919 Speaker 1: was It definitely called for you to to actually go 403 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:20,640 Speaker 1: through the process of writing the book. Definitely. It's still 404 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 1: hard for me to read it, you know, I've read 405 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:25,360 Speaker 1: it in multiple times, don't do it. And working with 406 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: the with Joe Layden, who helped me write it is 407 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: was just a really good We messed really well. So 408 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: it wasn't easy telling it, but he made it a 409 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 1: little easier and a great guy and you put helped 410 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: me put together a great store. I think we did 411 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: a good job, did a great job. It's like a 412 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: Navy seal Marley and me. People who it is. People 413 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: really like it. It's an honorable to tell a story. 414 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: I said, I said here talking about Cairo all day long, 415 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: and it makes like I don't I don't have any 416 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: issues with it, you know, talking somewhat to the extent 417 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: to be still being respectful of what my teammates have done, 418 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 1: of course, and talk about me like yeah, we'll talk 419 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:04,400 Speaker 1: about my brain health because it's not easy, like you said, 420 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: but you know, if it helps, it helps, it helps. 421 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: So there's all these modalities. Man, there's so much out 422 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: there that a lot of people don't realize them. You know, 423 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:14,919 Speaker 1: if they hear my story and they just pay attention 424 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 1: to a couple of them and it helps out well perfect. 425 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:19,400 Speaker 1: I think I'm glad, as you know, it's not easy, 426 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 1: but glad it was able to help. Is there any 427 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: certain stories like after your service and you and the 428 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: and Cairo were out in the civilian world where people 429 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 1: recognize him, something sticks out on your mind, some funny 430 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 1: story or you know, how he interacted. I heard somewhere 431 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: that he interacted well with children, which a lot of 432 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 1: working dogs don't. A lot of working dogs don't say. 433 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: He was real lucky to have him. He um. Nobody 434 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:48,880 Speaker 1: knew because I never really told anybody. We just didn't 435 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:50,439 Speaker 1: talk about, Like I said, this is a complete one 436 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: any of what we're used to, you know the deal. 437 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: Nobody knew who he was because I just never talked 438 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 1: about it. You know, the certain people teammates knew obviously, 439 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: but whody knew who he was. Even people by my 440 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: girlfriend that I had at the time, she didn't know 441 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:05,959 Speaker 1: for I don't even know how. One of my other 442 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 1: teammates was talking about it and she's like, you did 443 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: what And I was like, yeah, it was I just 444 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:12,919 Speaker 1: do it. We'll talk about just because we changed his 445 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: name to Carlos for a second, you know, a couple 446 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,479 Speaker 1: of names with thrown out there Kai and I was like, 447 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: you know, well, let's just do Carlos, Like Carlos. It's 448 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: not even close to kind of. He was great with kids. 449 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 1: I got pictures of him only kids with my buddy 450 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 1: or my only couch and my buddy's kids. He was back, 451 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,479 Speaker 1: you know, belly up in the airlane and both her 452 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: lap and just stuffs get around women children. He got 453 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 1: attacked by my girlfriend's bulldog at her house. He was 454 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 1: he was going after a toy. I was in the 455 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: shower when it happened, but I guess the bulldog got 456 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 1: a little toy aggressive, got him in the arm and 457 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: laid his arm just a little bit. He didn't even 458 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 1: show any signs. He didn't fight back. He didn't show 459 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: any signs that he was hurt. When when I got out, 460 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 1: I was in the shower, I went outside and I 461 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:54,679 Speaker 1: heard I was like, what happened. They told me what 462 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,719 Speaker 1: happened and looking at him, checked him out and they 463 00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: just noticed a little cut in his arm. So he 464 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: had to go get him a couple of stables. But 465 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: he didn't do anything. He was ruled. Laid back till 466 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 1: even on target during his working days. I remember once 467 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 1: there was on target during the daytime for some reason, 468 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: and it was a huge Afghan dog it's being weird 469 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: covers in the book. I think that I think this 470 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 1: is in the book in more details, being really weird. 471 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 1: So keep my on and keep my own. Carro didn't care. 472 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 1: He's working, working on, keep my on him being really weird. 473 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: And all of a sudden I see him towards Cairo 474 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 1: and I had just had to drop the dog. I 475 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: hated it. It was terrible. I don't I don't want 476 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: shoot dogs. But he didn't care. Like dog was coming 477 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: right at Cairo Carolin's he was actually injuring another room. 478 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 1: Didn't even look over at him. He didn't carry what 479 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 1: right the room and kept on working. He's just really cool, 480 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: laid back. My bulldog is a rescue because it was 481 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: in a place where they were training dogs to fight. 482 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,120 Speaker 1: When we got her, she was all tore up, and 483 00:22:55,280 --> 00:23:00,160 Speaker 1: surprisingly she loves people, absolutely adores people, which keep will 484 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 1: put her through that. But she doesn't like other dogs, 485 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 1: so I have to be careful when I take her 486 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 1: out around because when she sees another dog, she automatically 487 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 1: thinks threat, and you knows, right she turns into a bulldog. 488 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 1: But surprisingly around kids and people, you know, she's a sweetheart, 489 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 1: So it's good that he was all chilled, even you know, 490 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 1: as a working dog. But you know, I think it's great. 491 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,360 Speaker 1: You're you're bringing attention to the dogs that are so 492 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:31,120 Speaker 1: valuable to our military effort these days. And they're they're 493 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 1: growing in uh in value every day, it seems. Yeah. 494 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 1: And there's a lot of organizations that are doing great things. 495 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: And Britlan's and John Devine and Jimmy Hatch still all 496 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 1: I know because there's just three. There's so many out there, 497 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 1: but they're all doing great things. If I can bring 498 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 1: attention to that, just hear the cool stories. Go read 499 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 1: that book, and I dare you like trying to get 500 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,360 Speaker 1: through the book without crying. It's a definitely a tough one. 501 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: It's a good it's a good story to good Bond 502 00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 1: brings attention to those dogs. There's lots of good people 503 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 1: out there. Man. Well, we we appreciate you not only 504 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 1: writing the book and what you accomplished in your military career, 505 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 1: but thanks for coming on with us today. We really 506 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: appreciate that, folks. Steve Well straight here, Soft Rep. We're 507 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: on the Will Chesney No Ordinary Dog, The Story of 508 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 1: Will and Cairo, and we encourage everyone to check it out. 509 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: This year, do it real soon. This is Military Appreciation 510 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,880 Speaker 1: Month and we're on here and we're doing the best 511 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,880 Speaker 1: we can with what we got, and uh, we'll try 512 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: to make it through these days. That it's crazy here. 513 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: I live up in the northeast. Everything's locked down. You 514 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 1: live in Texas, and I right, I lived in Texas. 515 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: I'm actually if you hear a live kind of on 516 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 1: the water people in the background round enjoying the day, 517 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 1: it's lockdown in Texas as it is up here, and 518 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,159 Speaker 1: I don't believe we're on that. I'm pretty good. I 519 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: got it. I can't complain, man im. I got my 520 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 1: puffs here and I'm back of access to the water, 521 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,160 Speaker 1: so I go, I run into town. It didn't seem 522 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: he doesn't seem too much. He knows the one person 523 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 1: at a time. A lot of people were masked. But 524 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: I haven't been out too much. Just gonna do with 525 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 1: my thing. Same here. I mean, we have pretty steep 526 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,640 Speaker 1: caseload around here. Are people who got that that virus. 527 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 1: So our family would just kind of hunker down and 528 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 1: only go out when we have to. It was waiting 529 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:22,919 Speaker 1: for all this to pass. Yeah, you'll stay safe too, 530 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,880 Speaker 1: I hope everybody joys the story. Appreciate the support. Thanks 531 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 1: for having me on. It was a great talk. It 532 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:30,880 Speaker 1: was great. It was great talking to you, Will and 533 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: all the best and and good luck with the book. 534 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 1: I hope it sells real well. I think it's gonna 535 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,439 Speaker 1: be a best seller. I really do, and I'm definitely 536 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,360 Speaker 1: gonna check it out. So thanks again for joining us. 537 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 1: Thank you, You'll have a great day. Steve Balstoria here 538 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: for Software Radio. We were doing an interview Will trust 539 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 1: Me about his new book, The Ordinary Dog. Thanks for listening, folks, 540 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 1: will be back with another podcast here real soon. You've 541 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: been listening to self Red Radio. 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