WEBVTT - I made him be honest 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:03.840 What's up, guys. Welcome to the Granger Smith Podcast. Thank 0:00:03.840 --> 0:00:05.840 you for listening, Thank you for watching. I'm grateful for 0:00:05.880 --> 0:00:08.080 this platform. This is a good one. Today I got 0:00:08.119 --> 0:00:12.000 one of my good buddies, Robert Turkula Fromlunkers TV. He's 0:00:12.240 --> 0:00:15.280 back and I got him to finally be honest with me. 0:00:15.520 --> 0:00:18.759 This is this is gonna be This is gonna be fun. 0:00:18.840 --> 0:00:20.439 And those are those of you that are fans of 0:00:20.480 --> 0:00:22.880 Lunkers TV are gonna like it. Those of you that 0:00:23.000 --> 0:00:24.960 don't know who he is. He's a very interesting guy, 0:00:25.000 --> 0:00:27.640 so you'll like it as well. This podcast is brought 0:00:27.680 --> 0:00:31.200 to you by Racon and I got some of these 0:00:31.800 --> 0:00:37.520 Racon earbuds today, literally today, unboxed them. 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A 0:03:49.400 --> 0:03:51.080 lot of this stuff was recorded right here at the 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:54.760 Eyege Farm, right where I'm sitting, and I'm just so 0:03:54.880 --> 0:03:58.240 proud of it. It's got a really diverse group of songs. 0:03:58.840 --> 0:04:01.880 So we've got some Earth songs, We've got some good 0:04:01.920 --> 0:04:06.560 old roller windows down country music. We have some songs 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:08.880 that are going to make you think, I hope, a 0:04:08.960 --> 0:04:11.680 couple of songs that are gonna make you cry. At 0:04:11.760 --> 0:04:15.200 least they make my wife Amber cry. So I'm just gosh, 0:04:15.600 --> 0:04:17.640 I'm so excited. And I'll be telling you guys more 0:04:17.640 --> 0:04:20.440 and more about this new album, and i'll be revealing 0:04:20.480 --> 0:04:23.120 the title of it. I also already took the pictures 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:26.080 for the cover, so I'll be approving all that this week. 0:04:26.440 --> 0:04:28.960 I have to have everything turned in so that it 0:04:28.960 --> 0:04:31.159 gets to you guys on time. I have to have 0:04:31.240 --> 0:04:33.719 it all turned in, like by the end of next week, 0:04:33.920 --> 0:04:38.280 so the race is on. It's always a little bit 0:04:38.279 --> 0:04:39.720 of a hustle at the end of an album, and 0:04:39.760 --> 0:04:42.039 I'm always a little bit worn out because it takes 0:04:42.400 --> 0:04:44.440 a lot of brain power and a lot of thinking 0:04:45.600 --> 0:04:51.200 to kind of just weed my way through a lot 0:04:51.200 --> 0:04:55.160 of the decisions that have to be made musically, and 0:04:55.400 --> 0:04:57.880 I've just but I like that I've always produced my 0:04:57.960 --> 0:05:01.400 records and I like to have that kind of controlled 0:05:01.480 --> 0:05:03.640 creative control for better or for worse. If it comes 0:05:03.680 --> 0:05:06.040 out and it's bad, I like to know that I'm 0:05:06.080 --> 0:05:08.960 the one that made it bad, and that's my fault. 0:05:09.560 --> 0:05:12.480 I hate the thought that, well, I had these songs 0:05:12.480 --> 0:05:15.360 and someone else produced them and recorded them and I 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:17.479 have no control over that, And if you don't like them, 0:05:18.200 --> 0:05:21.800 that's a terrible thought that I handed off what you're 0:05:21.800 --> 0:05:24.560 going to be listening to to someone else. So all 0:05:24.560 --> 0:05:27.159 that being said, I love it. I hope you do 0:05:27.240 --> 0:05:30.440 to be watching my socials for as we start revealing 0:05:30.480 --> 0:05:33.360 and releasing a few of these songs early, which we 0:05:33.400 --> 0:05:36.400 will be doing, and it's going to be a fun 0:05:36.400 --> 0:05:43.400 fall this podcast. Robert Turkla, the man behind Lunkers TV, 0:05:43.600 --> 0:05:47.640 one of the most popular, most viewed, most subscribed to 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:52.920 phishing channels, freshwater fishing channels on all of YouTube. He's 0:05:52.960 --> 0:05:56.200 built an empire with what he's done. He's also a 0:05:56.279 --> 0:05:59.120 vet and he's also seen a lot. He has a 0:05:59.160 --> 0:06:01.640 lot of stories, and I've never really asked him about it. 0:06:01.720 --> 0:06:03.000 So I wanted to go a little bit deep and 0:06:03.000 --> 0:06:04.919 wanted him to get honest with me on this podcast. 0:06:07.320 --> 0:06:09.839 That's a good one. So here you go. Thank you 0:06:09.880 --> 0:06:45.479 for watching episode forty. Welcome to the Grangersmith podcast. Did 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:53.159 chid and much times and so long line of my 0:06:53.440 --> 0:07:09.159 fool of humping down the back rangy cool watch jeation. 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:18.040 So by now, by now you would have been to 0:07:18.440 --> 0:07:21.360 how many of my concerts on a normal twenty twenty 0:07:21.360 --> 0:07:24.200 if this has been a normal year, your yours, you 0:07:24.240 --> 0:07:26.040 would have been to You have been on the bus 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:31.200 with us at least a handful, at least three. I'm 0:07:31.200 --> 0:07:33.880 going like weekends up front at least at least a handful. Yeah, 0:07:33.960 --> 0:07:38.600 for sure. That's kind of a kind of sucks. Actually, 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:39.760 as a matter of fact, I think we're supposed to 0:07:39.800 --> 0:07:43.280 be have north we I swear you're supposed to pick 0:07:43.320 --> 0:07:45.720 me up on the way up north. We were Yeah, 0:07:46.440 --> 0:07:47.880 I don't know, I don't know what it was though, 0:07:48.360 --> 0:07:51.920 every reason June. It was in June. I'm sure everything, 0:07:52.640 --> 0:07:56.800 everything is gone. So how has this you're by the way, 0:07:56.840 --> 0:07:59.960 you're my only repeat guest on this podcast. That's good, 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:04.160 so far good. And so the first one we did 0:08:05.320 --> 0:08:07.360 you know virtually? No, Yes, that was that was at 0:08:07.360 --> 0:08:09.840 the very beginning of all this. Yeah, the very beginning. 0:08:09.960 --> 0:08:13.800 So now since then, how has how has your work 0:08:14.120 --> 0:08:18.080 been altered? Uh? Not much? Really, I guess I kind 0:08:18.080 --> 0:08:19.720 of stayed home for like a week and a half 0:08:20.040 --> 0:08:22.640 and then I was like, nah, we got I gotta work. 0:08:23.200 --> 0:08:25.280 So I'm never really like in the only time I'm 0:08:25.320 --> 0:08:28.240 actually with people is like maybe now. But I don't 0:08:28.240 --> 0:08:30.080 go into the store very often. I get Chick fil 0:08:30.120 --> 0:08:32.520 every morning, and I go to my land and then 0:08:32.520 --> 0:08:37.199 I come back home. I'm not around anybody. How far 0:08:37.280 --> 0:08:38.839 is your land from where you live? Not an hour? 0:08:40.120 --> 0:08:42.640 Drop up there, do whatever I need to do, fish, 0:08:43.000 --> 0:08:45.360 shoot some guns, do something stupid, and then come back home. 0:08:45.440 --> 0:08:47.880 And so I was never really affected. Really, that's your work, 0:08:48.240 --> 0:08:51.480 that's it. That is literally it. I've told you. I 0:08:51.520 --> 0:08:53.280 tell you this all the time. But as a country 0:08:53.280 --> 0:08:56.840 singer who has a job that I always hear people 0:08:57.840 --> 0:09:00.600 that say, man, that must be awesome. One that tells 0:09:00.640 --> 0:09:04.440 you that you go out and you fish and you 0:09:04.480 --> 0:09:07.439 shoot some stuff. That's a natural job. Yeah, it's got 0:09:07.480 --> 0:09:10.480 to be entertaining for fifteen minutes of someone's life a day. 0:09:10.640 --> 0:09:13.600 But do you wake up every morning and go, man, 0:09:13.640 --> 0:09:15.760 I love this job? Nah, you don't. I like it. 0:09:15.880 --> 0:09:17.199 Not that kind of guy. No, I like, I'm like, 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:18.839 I'm gotta get the work done, and then I come 0:09:18.840 --> 0:09:20.480 home like all right, let's have a glass of whiskey. 0:09:21.120 --> 0:09:23.240 Or now I'm mountain on the workout phase for like 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:25.319 the last six months, I'll literally work all day and 0:09:25.360 --> 0:09:27.000 then I come home and I work out in my 0:09:27.080 --> 0:09:29.800 garage because it's hot as hell. You got your bench 0:09:29.840 --> 0:09:32.120 press back up to where it was I am sitting 0:09:32.120 --> 0:09:34.760 at probably around two twenty five, And no, I'll probably 0:09:34.760 --> 0:09:37.600 never get back over three hundred. Ever you were three? 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:39.960 Was that three fifteen? Tem Yeah? Three? Shoot, I'll probably 0:09:40.000 --> 0:09:42.120 never get back up there. Maybe I will, I don't know, 0:09:42.240 --> 0:09:43.959 probably not, because I have no one to spot me. 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:46.360 So I'm literally just doing like a lot of reps. 0:09:46.400 --> 0:09:50.280 I always do eight to ten. So what I'm interested like, 0:09:50.440 --> 0:09:53.720 I want to get off anything we talked about last time. Yeah, 0:09:53.920 --> 0:09:57.560 you have Lunkers TV, one of the most successful fishing 0:09:57.600 --> 0:10:05.040 shows on YouTube, wildly successful with googin and all of 0:10:05.080 --> 0:10:10.520 your branding, wildly successful. You're a one percenter. You say that, 0:10:10.559 --> 0:10:12.800 but then I look at yours and this guy's this 0:10:12.840 --> 0:10:16.600 guy's killing. It doesn't matter for the guy, for everyone 0:10:16.640 --> 0:10:20.680 out there that says I want to fish on YouTube, 0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:24.559 you are a not even a one percenter. You're You're 0:10:24.640 --> 0:10:28.800 like a point zero zero zero one percenter. This is 0:10:28.880 --> 0:10:31.800 luck of anyone. I don't it is. I don't believe 0:10:31.840 --> 0:10:34.520 there's a lot of legos timing. It's the same thing huge, 0:10:34.520 --> 0:10:36.480 which timing is huge, but there's there's a difference in 0:10:36.520 --> 0:10:39.680 timing and luck. Yeah, I timed it well, you timed 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:43.520 it very well, worked hard for well a few years. 0:10:43.679 --> 0:10:46.240 So I guess we talked about that a lot last podcast. 0:10:46.280 --> 0:10:48.920 But what I want to talk about now is I 0:10:48.960 --> 0:10:51.560 want to kind of get deeper. And you know me, 0:10:51.640 --> 0:10:54.280 I don't prepare for these I don't take notes. That's 0:10:54.320 --> 0:10:56.000 my entire life. I actually tried to come down to 0:10:56.040 --> 0:10:58.000 your house on Tuesday while you're in Nashville. So that's 0:10:58.040 --> 0:11:01.280 how prepared I was. That's true. Yeah, I was like, hey, 0:11:01.320 --> 0:11:03.719 you want to come do this podcast? And You're like, yeah, man, 0:11:04.040 --> 0:11:06.360 I'm going down south anyway to be with Demo and 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:09.520 Matt Best. And I said, cool, I'm available any day 0:11:09.559 --> 0:11:13.200 but Wednesday because the day I show Wednesday. See how 0:11:13.240 --> 0:11:15.160 you have the days wrong here? I just don't. I 0:11:15.160 --> 0:11:17.640 don't plan for anything either. So we're good. So what 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:19.120 I want to I want to talk about, though, is 0:11:19.200 --> 0:11:24.400 like who who were you before the military, and then 0:11:24.400 --> 0:11:26.280 who are you now? And what what has that done 0:11:26.280 --> 0:11:31.040 to your personality? I was lost before the military, Okay, God, 0:11:31.040 --> 0:11:32.120 I had no idea what I want to do with 0:11:32.160 --> 0:11:35.679 my life. I mean I wasn't totally expecting that. Yeah, 0:11:35.679 --> 0:11:37.920 I was super lost. I mean, hell, I was working 0:11:37.920 --> 0:11:40.439 at a What was I doing? I was pushing carts 0:11:40.440 --> 0:11:43.600 at Walmart. That's literally what I did. I pushed cards 0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:46.600 at Walmart. I had no not high school diplomat. I 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:50.640 was seventeen at the time, eighteen right there. I didn't 0:11:50.640 --> 0:11:53.160 have anything. My dad had just died that same year prior, 0:11:53.679 --> 0:11:55.520 and I didn't live with my mom, and I didn't 0:11:55.520 --> 0:11:56.840 have really anywhere to go. So I was like, in 0:11:56.840 --> 0:11:59.720 this weird transient phase. So I just worked at Walmart 0:11:59.760 --> 0:12:03.080 push carts and I gambled every day on's a casino 0:12:03.080 --> 0:12:06.080 every day play black jack, so I did, So what 0:12:06.080 --> 0:12:09.959 what made you sign up? I saw guys walk out 0:12:10.000 --> 0:12:12.199 of the when I was pushing carts, I mean a 0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:15.440 gentleman and uh we saw army guys walk out. I 0:12:15.480 --> 0:12:17.000 was like, that looks really cool. I want to go 0:12:17.040 --> 0:12:20.439 do that, and that's literally I walked over to him 0:12:20.559 --> 0:12:22.880 and they asked me what I want to do, So 0:12:22.880 --> 0:12:24.400 I wanted the office. I took some tests and I 0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:26.839 wasn't really the brightest guy in the world. Clearly I 0:12:26.880 --> 0:12:32.000 had a debatable well it depends on what you when 0:12:32.040 --> 0:12:35.959 we're talking about like booksmarts, not a chance, and that's 0:12:36.000 --> 0:12:37.600 what I took the test and they're like, so what 0:12:37.600 --> 0:12:38.520 do you want to do and I was like, I 0:12:38.559 --> 0:12:40.520 don't know. I want to go kick indoors. And that's 0:12:40.559 --> 0:12:42.960 how I got my job. What you said I want 0:12:42.960 --> 0:12:44.960 to kick I want to be the guy that kicking doors. 0:12:46.120 --> 0:12:47.400 He's like, okay, so you want to be an infantryman. 0:12:47.440 --> 0:12:50.360 I'm like, yeah, sure do that. I don't know. Okay, 0:12:50.480 --> 0:12:53.200 then then I watched videos on YouTube on what an 0:12:53.240 --> 0:12:55.760 infantry guy was and what they did. I had no idea. 0:12:56.960 --> 0:13:01.080 So then did you shoot before? No? No, really had 0:13:01.080 --> 0:13:04.960 you had you shot before? Maybe a shotgun or a 0:13:04.960 --> 0:13:08.000 pistol or something, but nothing like no, no, because I 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:10.000 want when I when I had, I actually hadn't even told. 0:13:10.000 --> 0:13:11.560 I didn't tell my girlfriend at the time. I didn't 0:13:11.559 --> 0:13:14.920 tell my mom, didn't tell my grandparents. I literally went joined. 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:18.560 I didn't even tell anybody until after I went to 0:13:18.600 --> 0:13:20.440 MEPs and signed all my paperwork and have a physical. 0:13:20.480 --> 0:13:22.679 So I was like, oh, yeah, I joined the army now, 0:13:22.760 --> 0:13:26.079 like I think, I shipped out like July, I think, 0:13:26.640 --> 0:13:29.000 and I joined in June, shipped out two weeks later, 0:13:29.840 --> 0:13:32.880 and that's still your personality. Yeah, I do everything, by 0:13:32.920 --> 0:13:35.680 the way, I joined the army. What I did? Oh yeah, 0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:39.920 I bought I bought a sports car, I bought a ranch. 0:13:40.640 --> 0:13:45.000 Yeah that's what happens. Okay, So you go in infantry 0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:47.959 and they go here you go and you here's a rifle, 0:13:48.000 --> 0:13:50.920 and you said, oh that's cool. Yeah, oh yeah, that's 0:13:50.920 --> 0:13:52.920 pretty much it. I remember I was sitting at my grandparents' 0:13:52.960 --> 0:13:55.640 house and they was looking at h the US Army's website, 0:13:55.760 --> 0:13:57.280 Go army dot com, I think is what it was. 0:13:57.920 --> 0:14:00.439 And they had a guy who was a infantry and 0:14:00.440 --> 0:14:01.640 then you click on it and then it would show 0:14:01.640 --> 0:14:03.200 you all the jobs you could do in the infantry 0:14:03.240 --> 0:14:05.000 and then one of them was sniper and I was like, 0:14:05.120 --> 0:14:07.960 I want to do that. I literally saw it on 0:14:07.960 --> 0:14:09.640 the computer, was like, I want to do that. That 0:14:09.679 --> 0:14:12.000 looks cool. The reason I even ask is because a 0:14:12.000 --> 0:14:15.960 lot of snipers will say my first baby gun. I 0:14:16.000 --> 0:14:18.920 was seven years old with my dad shoot squirrels. Yeah, 0:14:18.960 --> 0:14:21.480 I shot up. I did shoot BB guns. I shot 0:14:21.520 --> 0:14:24.800 birds all the time out of the barn. But I 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:26.640 do remember when I was a kid, I shot a bird, 0:14:26.680 --> 0:14:28.440 a barn swallow out of the sky with a BB gun. 0:14:28.480 --> 0:14:30.760 I was like, holy shit, that was you were good. 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:33.040 You knew that you had a good Yeah. I could shoot, yeah, 0:14:33.200 --> 0:14:34.920 but I just didn't. I never was taught how to 0:14:34.920 --> 0:14:37.160 shoot far. I mean I just shot baby guns or 0:14:37.760 --> 0:14:40.240 little lover actions or something. Nothing but nothing that you 0:14:40.360 --> 0:14:42.800 consider yourself different than any of your other friends at 0:14:42.800 --> 0:14:45.720 your shooting. No scare it off, like different than like 0:14:45.800 --> 0:14:48.200 Nick Irving, Who's like, yeah, I knew it seven years old. 0:14:48.200 --> 0:14:50.120 I had a really good Yeah. I knew when I 0:14:50.120 --> 0:14:53.120 got in the army that shooting was really easy. And 0:14:53.160 --> 0:14:55.360 then once I came back from my rack, I was like, 0:14:55.360 --> 0:14:56.840 I want to try. I want to I kept I 0:14:56.840 --> 0:14:58.480 have that even to this day. I still had that 0:14:58.480 --> 0:15:00.680 same issue where I always want to do something more 0:15:00.720 --> 0:15:03.840 than what I probably should do. And when I came back, 0:15:03.880 --> 0:15:05.240 I was like, well, I want to try out and 0:15:05.280 --> 0:15:07.200 be a sniper. And then when I came back from 0:15:07.200 --> 0:15:09.240 that and I got kind of plateaued where they're I 0:15:09.240 --> 0:15:10.600 could go only as far as I could. I came 0:15:10.640 --> 0:15:12.000 back from Afghanistan, I was like, well, now I want 0:15:12.000 --> 0:15:14.560 to try for Special Forces, and now I want to 0:15:14.560 --> 0:15:16.760 do this. And that's kind of what I kept even 0:15:16.760 --> 0:15:19.320 in life. It's you came back from your first hour, Yeah, 0:15:19.360 --> 0:15:21.880 it's like we're not you were just infantry. Then you 0:15:21.880 --> 0:15:23.360 said I want to be a sniper. Yeah. Then went 0:15:23.400 --> 0:15:25.680 the sniper trials and then I got selected for that, 0:15:25.720 --> 0:15:27.200 and then they have a six month waiting period for 0:15:27.240 --> 0:15:28.600 you to test and see if you're actually gonna be 0:15:28.640 --> 0:15:31.680 good enough. Because it's so expensive to send one person 0:15:31.760 --> 0:15:35.680 to school, like it's exceptionally expensive, like really expensive for 0:15:35.720 --> 0:15:38.000 the to train one person to be a snipers so 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:40.840 expensive for the army. They literally send you when you 0:15:40.880 --> 0:15:45.400 get selected for sniper section, you have like a six 0:15:45.440 --> 0:15:48.720 month trial period where they test, they test you and 0:15:48.760 --> 0:15:51.920 they literally put you through school multiple times just to 0:15:51.920 --> 0:15:55.040 see if you can pass at this level, and then 0:15:55.040 --> 0:15:57.560 they send you off to school. Yeah. So, but then 0:15:57.560 --> 0:15:59.440 if you can't even pass it on on the first try, 0:15:59.440 --> 0:16:00.960 then they kick you back down to the line unit 0:16:00.960 --> 0:16:03.520 and they'd find somebody else. You're metal bracelets that are 0:16:03.520 --> 0:16:07.400 clinking around. Yeah all this When did that start? Was 0:16:07.400 --> 0:16:11.200 that both one's Iraq and one Afghanistan? Where was that 0:16:11.240 --> 0:16:13.520 in relation to your story of when you came back? 0:16:14.640 --> 0:16:16.920 These ones are both these both these guys are from Afghanistan. 0:16:17.040 --> 0:16:19.640 This guy ended up dying in Iraq fighting Isis four 0:16:19.680 --> 0:16:21.560 years later. This guy was killed when I was there. 0:16:22.080 --> 0:16:26.360 So that's when you were a sniper Afghanistan. Yeah, So 0:16:26.560 --> 0:16:28.880 did you see much action the first tour? Not really, 0:16:28.920 --> 0:16:30.920 I mean we saw it was totally different kind of war. 0:16:31.000 --> 0:16:35.760 It was so like they just fought differently. They didn't 0:16:35.760 --> 0:16:38.560 fight the same Afghanistan they fought and they would stay 0:16:38.560 --> 0:16:40.200 at the stand in the ground Iraq. They would like 0:16:40.640 --> 0:16:42.400 come out of a side street or some shit and 0:16:42.440 --> 0:16:44.240 throw something at you and shoot at you real quick 0:16:44.240 --> 0:16:47.280 and then run away. It was too many different So 0:16:47.360 --> 0:16:50.200 you came home and you're like, I want more action. Yes, 0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:53.240 basically I want to what's the next level up? How 0:16:53.240 --> 0:16:55.400 could I level up? Because I don't want to go 0:16:55.440 --> 0:16:58.120 back and be bored? Essentially, why didn't even think that. 0:16:58.600 --> 0:17:00.920 I wasn't even expecting to go to Afghanistan in the 0:17:00.960 --> 0:17:03.280 first place. I was on my way out. I came 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:05.200 and I tried out for snipers. I was a sniper 0:17:05.200 --> 0:17:08.760 for about a yearish and I was on my way out, 0:17:09.760 --> 0:17:11.640 and I was actually going to go try out for 0:17:11.960 --> 0:17:14.879 the Chicago Cubs farm team because I had a connection 0:17:14.960 --> 0:17:15.919 up there. I was going to go try out for 0:17:15.920 --> 0:17:18.920 the Triple A team, and I had a week later, 0:17:18.920 --> 0:17:21.479 I had got orders too for Afghanistan, and I had 0:17:21.480 --> 0:17:23.520 to make a choice. Do I want to go to 0:17:23.560 --> 0:17:25.359 Afghanistan with the guys I've been training with over the 0:17:25.440 --> 0:17:27.719 last year as a sniper, or do I just want 0:17:27.760 --> 0:17:29.440 to get out of the Army cause and be done. 0:17:29.520 --> 0:17:31.719 I literally would have just been done. I didn't wouldn't 0:17:31.720 --> 0:17:34.080 have even won on the deployment. So I decided well, 0:17:34.080 --> 0:17:35.480 screw it, I'll go ahead and sign up. And that's 0:17:35.480 --> 0:17:38.400 what I did. I re upped to go to Afghanistan, 0:17:39.840 --> 0:17:42.640 and all read yeah, yeah, yeah, oh yeah, my life 0:17:42.640 --> 0:17:44.920 would become way different if I didn't. But now I 0:17:45.160 --> 0:17:47.879 literally signed up just for one tour. I signed up 0:17:47.920 --> 0:17:51.680 for an additional eighteen months just to make the contracts. 0:17:51.680 --> 0:17:54.080 So basically I would have got out in Afghanistan, so 0:17:54.080 --> 0:17:55.919 I extended I think it was twelve months actually, so 0:17:55.960 --> 0:17:57.439 I would have enough time when I got back to 0:17:57.520 --> 0:18:00.679 get out. But then when I was over there, I 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:03.159 loved it so much. I re upped again because I 0:18:03.160 --> 0:18:04.439 was like, I'm gonna go back and I'm gonna make 0:18:04.480 --> 0:18:06.760 Special Forces and then we're gonna make it a career. 0:18:06.840 --> 0:18:10.320 Because you were borderline board again, I was bored again. Yeah, 0:18:10.320 --> 0:18:12.240 because there's only so high you can get in the 0:18:12.240 --> 0:18:14.480 regular army, Like you can only do so much stuff, 0:18:14.920 --> 0:18:16.800 Like I had all the schooling I could possibly get. 0:18:16.840 --> 0:18:19.360 I had airborne, air assault and sniper school and all 0:18:19.359 --> 0:18:21.679 my infantry shit. There was literally nowhere else for me 0:18:21.720 --> 0:18:25.000 to go. I'd already maxed out, so I had to 0:18:25.240 --> 0:18:27.760 do something else. And so when's the first time you 0:18:27.840 --> 0:18:31.919 killed somebody there's time which tour was that it was 0:18:32.080 --> 0:18:34.560 afghan I said, I didn't kill anybody in Iraq? Did 0:18:34.560 --> 0:18:37.920 that change you? Uh? Not really not? Then it was 0:18:38.000 --> 0:18:42.600 kind of enjoyable. It might sound. You have videos on YouTube. 0:18:42.680 --> 0:18:45.560 I used to have over that day. I had all 0:18:45.600 --> 0:18:47.639 the videos because it was all filmed that that entire 0:18:47.720 --> 0:18:49.920 day was actually filmed on a helmet camp. And I 0:18:49.920 --> 0:18:52.640 got drunk one night and deleted all everything. I had 0:18:52.680 --> 0:18:56.600 the video of me killing somebody. Well, actually, sometimes being 0:18:56.640 --> 0:19:01.040 drunk brings out the truth. I didn't want those So 0:19:01.520 --> 0:19:06.120 so something in your conscience knew that this is gonna 0:19:06.160 --> 0:19:07.680 this is gonna hurt you. I could actually go back 0:19:07.720 --> 0:19:10.159 and physically relive that day. You don't need a video, No, 0:19:10.240 --> 0:19:12.560 I didn't. Don't mean like I literally could watch it. 0:19:12.680 --> 0:19:14.120 I can see it to my head. But I'm saying 0:19:14.119 --> 0:19:15.240 if I could go out there and watch it on 0:19:15.280 --> 0:19:17.560 TV screen, then I can really literally I didn't want 0:19:17.560 --> 0:19:19.440 to have to continue to relive that over and over. 0:19:20.520 --> 0:19:22.159 So what did that do to the dude that was 0:19:22.200 --> 0:19:28.840 pushing cards at Walmart? What did that kind of power change? 0:19:29.160 --> 0:19:33.879 That's a good question to make you you are today? Damn, 0:19:33.920 --> 0:19:36.119 that is a good question. What did it do to me? 0:19:37.200 --> 0:19:39.520 And I don't know. I can tell you this. I 0:19:39.560 --> 0:19:42.159 don't know. That's a good question. You stopped, you stopped 0:19:42.200 --> 0:19:44.879 doing those kind of videos on YouTube, which one reason 0:19:44.920 --> 0:19:47.439 military ones talking about. Yeah, I don't talk about on 0:19:47.520 --> 0:19:51.399 YouTube like that, but you used to. Yeah, and you 0:19:51.440 --> 0:19:55.119 get a lot of views, so you would if it 0:19:55.200 --> 0:19:58.480 was about the views, you would continue to There's only 0:19:58.520 --> 0:20:00.480 and there's only so many things I would like to 0:20:00.640 --> 0:20:04.960 tell as well, because there's there's also my audience. I understand, 0:20:05.320 --> 0:20:07.840 there's a lot of kids, and there's like certain stories 0:20:07.840 --> 0:20:09.919 that you just never want to say out loud because 0:20:10.080 --> 0:20:16.520 some people they can't. There's some shit should probably never 0:20:16.600 --> 0:20:19.920 be said. I guess I like that, like seeing like 0:20:20.200 --> 0:20:22.160 women having to pull glass out of their face because 0:20:22.160 --> 0:20:23.960 the bomb dropped too close on their stuff and blew 0:20:24.000 --> 0:20:25.800 all the windows out and now their face is covered. 0:20:25.800 --> 0:20:28.639 That wasn't our fault. Yeah, that kind of like I 0:20:28.600 --> 0:20:32.320 don't tell those kind of stories. You're not haunted by it? No, Well, 0:20:32.400 --> 0:20:36.159 sometimes and I have I think when you answer really fast, 0:20:36.440 --> 0:20:38.720 I feel like you're like I might be, but I 0:20:38.760 --> 0:20:41.800