WEBVTT - Crash-Out Chronicles with Marina Mabrey

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain.

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<v Speaker 2>Where we thought we belonged to the trash talk Hall

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<v Speaker 2>of Fame until we watch today's guest in action.

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<v Speaker 1>There are levels to this. It's Friday, May thirtieth, Happy

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<v Speaker 1>Friday Slices.

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<v Speaker 2>On today we're going to be bringing you my conversation

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<v Speaker 2>with Connecticut Sun guard Marina Maybray, recorded on Wednesday. We

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<v Speaker 2>talked about the Sun's tough start to the season, finding

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<v Speaker 2>her focus and purpose in Connecticut after being denied a

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<v Speaker 2>trade out, trash talking, self regulating, and more.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a good one, y'all.

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<v Speaker 2>Plus a look ahead at another weekend chock full of

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<v Speaker 2>WNBA hoops, soccer, friendlies, golf, and a lacrosse What the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that'll put toenails in your creamed corn? It's all

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<v Speaker 2>coming up right after this. Welcome back, y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's what you need to know today in hoops.

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<v Speaker 2>Big weekend for the WNBA, starting with five matchups tonight,

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<v Speaker 2>two contests at seven thirty pm Eastern. First, the Caitlin

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<v Speaker 2>Clarkless Indiana Fever hosts the Connecticut Sun, and then the

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<v Speaker 2>Washington Mystics play host to the New York Liberty defending Champs.

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<v Speaker 1>New York are on a roll to start this season.

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<v Speaker 2>They've got five players averaging double figures, Brianna Stewart, Johnqwell Jones,

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<v Speaker 2>Natasha cloud Sabrinia Escu and Kennedy Burke. Then at ten

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<v Speaker 2>pm Eastern, three more games the La Sparks at the

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<v Speaker 2>Las Vegas Aces, the Seattle Storm at home against the

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<v Speaker 2>Atlanta Dream, and the five and zero Minnesota Links visiting

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<v Speaker 2>the Phoenix Mercury Links. Undefeated NAFISA Colliers come out of

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<v Speaker 2>the gates with a point to prove Kaylea McBride's getting

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<v Speaker 2>back to full strength, and the entire team is looking

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<v Speaker 2>to avenge last year's finals loss. They have been fun

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<v Speaker 2>so far. You can catch all of tonight's games on

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<v Speaker 2>League Pass or on Ion. The lone game on Saturday

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<v Speaker 2>is at eight pm when the Chicago Sky heads south

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<v Speaker 2>to play the Dallas Wings. That'll be the second meeting

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<v Speaker 2>between those two teams in three days. Then on Sunday,

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<v Speaker 2>Commissioner's Cup play starts quick refresher for so a select

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<v Speaker 2>number of games count toward this Commissioner's Cup in season tournament.

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<v Speaker 2>This year, it's the thirty six games running from June

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<v Speaker 2>first to June seventeenth, Every team will play one game

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<v Speaker 2>against each of the other teams in its conference, and

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<v Speaker 2>the team from each conference with the best record in

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<v Speaker 2>those games will face off for the Commissioner's Cup Championship

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<v Speaker 2>on July First. Four games Sunday to kickoff Cup play

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<v Speaker 2>this year sun at Liberty, Mercury at Sparks, Aces at Storm,

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<v Speaker 2>and Links at Valkyrie's. We'll link to the full WNBA

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<v Speaker 2>schedule in our show notes.

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<v Speaker 1>More hoops news.

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<v Speaker 2>The Chicago Sky have announced that they'll hang Candae Parker's

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<v Speaker 2>number three jersey in the wind Trust Arena rafters on

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<v Speaker 2>August twenty fifth, when they host the Las Vegas Aces.

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<v Speaker 2>Parker only spent two seasons with the Sky, but the

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<v Speaker 2>beloved Illinois native helped the team to its first and

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<v Speaker 2>only WNBA title in twenty twenty one. The honor from

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<v Speaker 2>the Sky will come about a month after the Los

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<v Speaker 2>Angeles Sparks retire her jersey. The team Parker spent thirteen

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<v Speaker 2>seasons with and helped to a championship in twenty sixteen,

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<v Speaker 2>will honor her in their game against the Sky on

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<v Speaker 2>June twenty ninth. Golf Don't Forget The US Open continues

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<v Speaker 2>today and this weekend as one hundred and fifty six

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<v Speaker 2>players compete for a.

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<v Speaker 1>Share of the twelve million dollar perse.

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<v Speaker 2>You can watch today's action twelve to six Eastern on

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<v Speaker 2>USA Network and six to eight Eastern on Peacock. On Saturday,

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<v Speaker 2>it'll be one to six Eastern on Peacock and three

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<v Speaker 2>to six Eastern on NBC, and Sunday's final round can

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<v Speaker 2>be watched from two to seven pm Eastern live on

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<v Speaker 2>NBC and Peacock. Also in tennis, the French Open rolls

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<v Speaker 2>on at Roland Garros, with live coverage on TNT Sports.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone there vying to make it to the June seventh

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<v Speaker 2>championship match and earn the roughly two point nine million

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<v Speaker 2>dollar winners. Cut to softball, Remember Jessica Mendoza teasing some

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<v Speaker 2>big athletes unlimited softball news on yesterday's show. Well, it's

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<v Speaker 2>officially out and it's big big. Major League Baseball has

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<v Speaker 2>announced a strategic investment in the AUSL. Per an official release,

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<v Speaker 2>the partnership includes quote engagement with the AUSL across many

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<v Speaker 2>areas of MLB's business operation, including collaborative sales and marketing efforts,

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<v Speaker 2>while AUSL athletes and storylines will be featured across MLB's

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<v Speaker 2>digital platforms and incorporated into select MLB events, including the

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<v Speaker 2>All Star Game and throughout the MLB postseason end quote.

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<v Speaker 2>This is huge news and for the first time a

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<v Speaker 2>professional softball league having an affiliation with Major League Baseball

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<v Speaker 2>including resources and investment and time and energy and marketing

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<v Speaker 2>and all of that is fantastic. In footy news, no

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<v Speaker 2>NWSL soccer this weekend. The league is on an international

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<v Speaker 2>break so players can compete during the FIFA International Match

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<v Speaker 2>Window ending on June third. NWSL play starts back up

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<v Speaker 2>on June sixth. Speaking of the FIFA window, the US

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<v Speaker 2>women's national team is using it to play matches against

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<v Speaker 2>China on Saturday in Saint Paul, Minnesota, and Jamaica on

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<v Speaker 2>Tuesday in Saint Louis. And remember we told you last

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<v Speaker 2>week that the second match will also have a pregame

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<v Speaker 2>retirement celebration for US women's national team legend Becky Souerbrunn,

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<v Speaker 2>friend of the show, who had a legendary career and

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<v Speaker 2>recently announced that she's pregnant. So get your tissues ready.

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<v Speaker 2>That's going to be a lovely moment for one of

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<v Speaker 2>our best. You can catch both those national team games

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<v Speaker 2>on TBS Universo Max Peacock and Westwood One Sports.

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<v Speaker 1>More footy.

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<v Speaker 2>Our show side, Minnesota Aurora FC plays this weekend as well.

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<v Speaker 2>They're two to zero to start the season, continuing their

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<v Speaker 2>unbeaten streak. Our girls have been undefeated in the regular

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<v Speaker 2>season for three consecutive seasons in the USLW League, and

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<v Speaker 2>the streak rolls on. Squad's got a road game against

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<v Speaker 2>river Light FC tonight at six pm Eastern and another

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<v Speaker 2>road game Sunday at five pm against the Chicago City

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<v Speaker 2>Dutch Lions. All right, y'all, we got to take a

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<v Speaker 2>quick break when we come back. We aren't cooking with

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<v Speaker 2>Marina Maybriy, but things might still get spicy stick around

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<v Speaker 2>joining us now. She's a guard for the Connecticut side

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<v Speaker 2>of the WNBA. Drafted by the LA Sparks and the

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<v Speaker 2>second round of the twenty nineteen WNBA draft, she spent

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<v Speaker 2>two seasons in LA before being traded to the Dallas Wings,

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<v Speaker 2>a couple seasons there before being sent to the Chicago

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<v Speaker 2>Sky and just a season and a half here in Chicago,

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<v Speaker 2>where we all loved her, before being traded to the

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<v Speaker 2>Sun in the middle of last season, she left Notre

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<v Speaker 2>Dame of the program's all time leader in made three pointers.

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<v Speaker 2>She's famously the only one of the Maybury sisters to

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<v Speaker 2>win a title with the Irish. You could check TikTok

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<v Speaker 2>to see if her sisters are salty about that. And

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<v Speaker 2>she was a member of Phantom BC and unrivaled this season,

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<v Speaker 2>but a calf injury limited her play, so she focused

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<v Speaker 2>mostly on learning how to use spices. It's Marina Maybury

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<v Speaker 2>him Marina.

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<v Speaker 3>Hi, thank you. That's a great intro.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I want to hear about the most important thing first,

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<v Speaker 2>cooking with Maybury. So have you mastered any new recipes

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<v Speaker 2>that the Sun teammates have given the seal of approval?

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<v Speaker 3>No, not yet, but I was thinking that since today

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<v Speaker 3>with our off day, I was going to make something

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<v Speaker 3>with the kitchen aid, maybe like some chocolate chip cookie

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<v Speaker 3>so nice. I'm kind of nervous. This is going to

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<v Speaker 3>be the first time. I don't know how they're going

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<v Speaker 3>to feel about it, but.

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<v Speaker 1>I have faith.

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<v Speaker 2>Just read all the ingredients before you start, and all

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<v Speaker 2>the instructions. I have problems sometimes where I don't do that,

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<v Speaker 2>and then it's like immediately put in that and I'm like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't measure that yet, or then it's like make

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<v Speaker 2>sure you don't and I've already done that because I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't read down further. So yeah, yeah, especially with baking,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it gets really difficult, especially like the temperatures and stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>like I didn't realize how important that was. Extremely That's

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<v Speaker 2>why I prefer cooking to baking, because cooking you're like, oops,

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<v Speaker 2>I screwed that up, Like I had some more of

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<v Speaker 2>this and put a little of this, and at baking

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<v Speaker 2>it's like that's it, one and done. Speaking of your

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<v Speaker 2>son teammates, one of them is one of the all

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<v Speaker 2>time greats in Tina Charles, and I'm wondering if she

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<v Speaker 2>has practice habits or tendencies that like feel like keys

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<v Speaker 2>to her years of success. Because when I see someone

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<v Speaker 2>in any professional sport that was born in the nineteen eighties,

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<v Speaker 2>first of all, I feel validated, and also I wonder, like,

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<v Speaker 2>what are they doing to stick around this long and

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<v Speaker 2>be successful?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, Teena just knows her spots, Like she gets

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<v Speaker 3>out there and she's going to go to her she's

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<v Speaker 3>going to go to her jump shot, and she reads

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<v Speaker 3>her defender pretty well when she's in one on one

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<v Speaker 3>situations and stuff, so it's just like hard to stop.

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<v Speaker 3>And she's powerful and she's been doing it for years,

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<v Speaker 3>so like she's not going to get sped up or

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<v Speaker 3>like into anything you're trying to stop her from doing.

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<v Speaker 3>She's just going to keep doing what she does no

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<v Speaker 3>matter what. So that's definitely probably brought her her success

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<v Speaker 3>throughout the years in the w just being able to

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<v Speaker 3>get to your spots no matter what the scheme is.

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<v Speaker 2>A whole lot of new teammates for you this year,

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<v Speaker 2>How has it been trying to like just get started

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<v Speaker 2>and get going with such a short offseason. Once the

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<v Speaker 2>draft happens and everybody's in one place.

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<v Speaker 3>I just think it happens a lot faster than everybody thinks.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, oh, we have time, we have time, we

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<v Speaker 3>have time, and all of a sudden, we're playing the

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<v Speaker 3>Mystics on our first game, and you know, you're trying

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<v Speaker 3>to work through things, shoot in practice and shoot around

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<v Speaker 3>in training camp, and everybody's young and inexperienced, and you

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<v Speaker 3>have to have grace and leadership at the same time, accountability,

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<v Speaker 3>but also some type of sympathy in a way, like

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<v Speaker 3>I know that this is really hard, this is tough.

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<v Speaker 3>You just got from college, and now all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 3>people are screaming, let's go move faster, sense of urgency

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<v Speaker 3>this and that, you know. So I try to like

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<v Speaker 3>put myself in their shoes and remember what I felt

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<v Speaker 3>like as a rookie and like I wanted some comfort.

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<v Speaker 3>I wanted somebody to tell me, like, you are doing good,

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<v Speaker 3>even though maybe I probably wasn't doing that good. But

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<v Speaker 3>so I've been trying to take that and give that

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<v Speaker 3>to the rookies and the younger players that we have.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about that, you're one of the more experienced

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<v Speaker 2>players on this team. What are you telling the rookies

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<v Speaker 2>and the youngsters about, like getting off to a tough

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<v Speaker 2>start or just being patient through the first couple of games.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been trying not to address like little situations rather

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<v Speaker 3>than kind of helping them figure out what gives them

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<v Speaker 3>the most energy to be able to come out here

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<v Speaker 3>for forty four games, Like where can you go to

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<v Speaker 3>fill your cup up? Like what do you need to do?

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<v Speaker 3>Because those things you have to do to be consistent

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<v Speaker 3>in this league to them out and keep playing whether

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<v Speaker 3>things are going great or they're not going great. And

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<v Speaker 3>then also just like preaching about boundaries, like no matter

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<v Speaker 3>how old you are, no matter how long you've been

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<v Speaker 3>in this league, you have to have boundaries. You have

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<v Speaker 3>to set an intention of not allowing other people's energy

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<v Speaker 3>to affect yours. And when you're in a work environment,

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<v Speaker 3>there are always there's always going to be somebody that

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<v Speaker 3>maybe isn't great energy, or the person the people that

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<v Speaker 3>you're playing against next to you, there's not maybe they're

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<v Speaker 3>out to make you mad, or they're whatever they're doing,

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<v Speaker 3>or the rest are not calling, which you want. Like

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<v Speaker 3>you have to have boundaries set in the sense of

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not giving my energy to this, I'm not giving

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<v Speaker 3>my energy to this, but I am giving my energy

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<v Speaker 3>to this, or you know, just like that as an athlete,

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<v Speaker 3>even like brand deals and stuff like you're in the

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<v Speaker 3>middle of the season, like you have to be able

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<v Speaker 3>to say no, sometimes no, I can't do that, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>too tired. I need to do this and to do that,

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<v Speaker 3>Like those all go in that boundary category. And then

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<v Speaker 3>just confidence, like I think that most things come from confidence,

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<v Speaker 3>and so you to go out there and perform in

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<v Speaker 3>forty four games in a WNBA season, against the best

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<v Speaker 3>players in the world. If you're lacking any type of confidence,

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<v Speaker 3>it's going to be really hard. So those, like the

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<v Speaker 3>three things that I've been talking to them a lot about.

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<v Speaker 2>Those are all really smart, And you know, the first

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<v Speaker 2>one you talked about sort of like where do you

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<v Speaker 2>give your energy and how do you react to your

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<v Speaker 2>teammates and your opponents and everything else. It seems like

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<v Speaker 2>that's something you're sort of working on this year. Fans

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<v Speaker 2>are loving watching clips of you in games, sort of

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<v Speaker 2>reacting to hard fouls or calls you don't like. Someone

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<v Speaker 2>said Marina Mabria's first team all reactions, which I loved,

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<v Speaker 2>But they also love watching you sort of practice self regulation.

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<v Speaker 2>This year, you got caught doing the deep breathing, the

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<v Speaker 2>send hands sort of talking to yourself. Is that something

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<v Speaker 2>that you've been working on with coaches or just in

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<v Speaker 2>the off season being more intentional.

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<v Speaker 3>About Yeah, I mean, I think I'll honestly give credit

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<v Speaker 3>to like last year's team, like AT and dB and them,

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<v Speaker 3>they were big on me about like keeping my complete,

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<v Speaker 3>with keeping my control because they're saying, like you're getting

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<v Speaker 3>out of you, no one can stop you when you're

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<v Speaker 3>in the zone and no one, and you're not upset

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<v Speaker 3>and you're not like losing your focus. So been trying

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<v Speaker 3>to have my moment and then get back to it

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<v Speaker 3>and go on a run or do something that's going

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<v Speaker 3>to help the team win, because you know, when I

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<v Speaker 3>get too far one way and I'm too mad, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>crashing out, like I can't come back. I'm not good

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<v Speaker 3>when I am all the way down, when I go

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<v Speaker 3>all the way down there. So I feel like the

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<v Speaker 3>first week of the season, I actually did go down

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<v Speaker 3>that way a little bit, and I was like, I

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<v Speaker 3>got to catch myself. So I feel like this week

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<v Speaker 3>I was a lot better with like keeping my controlsure

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<v Speaker 3>and keeping my head. And then the numbers said, so.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the crash out seems to be the term of

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<v Speaker 2>choice specifically to you. Is that something that you came

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<v Speaker 2>up with or it is something that like the folks

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<v Speaker 2>on TikTok and social unsigned to you and you're like,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, that's right, that is what it feels like.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, my TikTok friends gave me that one. I learned

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<v Speaker 3>it from them. Yeah, they're always like hung crash on stuff. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes I get mad at those videos though, because it's

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<v Speaker 3>like sometimes they create a narrative that's like, yeah, that's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm crazy and stuff, and it's like I hear you,

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<v Speaker 3>but like if I need to know that if you

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<v Speaker 3>got tackled from behind in the back court right and

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<v Speaker 3>no one's saying anything in their talking about our marine

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<v Speaker 3>or flopping, like and you know you didn't flop, it's

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<v Speaker 3>like okay, like at some point you really might crash

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<v Speaker 3>out too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, No, I want you to know that.

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<v Speaker 2>I would be absolutely mortified to play basketball on television.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a terrible temper. I'm a horrible loser. I

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<v Speaker 2>would get so.

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<v Speaker 1>Angry during games. I would throw my hands in the air, my.

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<v Speaker 2>Face would get beat red, like I just was like

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted it so bad, but I couldn't really control

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<v Speaker 2>it sometimes when I was indeed crashing out or when

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't think like.

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<v Speaker 1>The call went the right way.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think people watching, especially people who never played,

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<v Speaker 2>just don't get it, Like they just don't understand and

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<v Speaker 2>they think you're somehow supposed to like have the best

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<v Speaker 2>energy in the world toward the thing that you want

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<v Speaker 2>to accomplish, and then be able to have no energy

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<v Speaker 2>in the moments.

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<v Speaker 1>When you're angry or frustrated or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>So I feel, yeah, and I enjoy it, and I

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<v Speaker 2>also get that sometimes the.

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<v Speaker 1>Narrative is that what you were hoping for?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Like, sometimes I'm just like whatever, Yeah, you mentioned Alyssa

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<v Speaker 2>Thomas and do Wanna Bonnard. Those are two of your

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<v Speaker 2>previous teammates that sort of helped talk you through it.

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<v Speaker 2>But you're you've been able to figure out how to

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<v Speaker 2>better control yourself. But you're also like you're willing to

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<v Speaker 2>let opposing players know what's on your mind. You're willing

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<v Speaker 2>to talk, You're willing to like try to get in

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<v Speaker 2>their heads and do exactly what you're warning those rooks against,

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<v Speaker 2>Like how do you not let the energy of the

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<v Speaker 2>opposing players get you? And if you could take advantage

0:14:32.920 --> 0:14:34.800
<v Speaker 2>of doing that to someone else, it can really help

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<v Speaker 2>your game. Do you remember, Like ever, it's just like

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<v Speaker 2>the wildest thing you ever said to someone.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I've said some wild shit.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I've like told someone their dog is ugly before. No, No,

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<v Speaker 3>I've never seen their dogs too far it's too far, right,

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<v Speaker 3>that's wild. And someoney told me that Charlie was ugly.

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<v Speaker 3>You might have to scrap right, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, that was kind of wild to me.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not gonna lie.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you run into like an even strength trash talk

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<v Speaker 2>or is there anyone who can match your energy?

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<v Speaker 3>Nay's pretty good. I think Nay's not bad. Djn A Carrington, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>AT's not bad either, Melyssa Thomas. Yeah, yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 3>there's other people that will like talk and stuff like,

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<v Speaker 3>but honestly, I don't really say that much unless you

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<v Speaker 3>say something wild. Like usually I hear them say something first,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm like what, Like, like even last night, I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, oh, so you wanted me to hear that,

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<v Speaker 3>like you know, so like if you wanted me to

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<v Speaker 3>hear it, then I'm definitely gonna right right, and then

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna have something great to say back. And also

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<v Speaker 3>I get that from like my I grew up in

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<v Speaker 3>a family that was like I mean, it's an aggressive family.

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<v Speaker 3>Like whenever we like could have argument or something like

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<v Speaker 3>we're arguing to win. We're not effing around with these arguments.

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<v Speaker 3>So like our siblings, we used to like unhinged things

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<v Speaker 3>to each other like crazy. So sometimes like I get

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<v Speaker 3>in that mode and I'm like, oh yeah, all right,

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<v Speaker 3>well say something back. Yeah, so it's really like that

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<v Speaker 3>that I get it from.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean you talk about how like when you're at home,

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<v Speaker 2>you're playing one on one with all your sisters who

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<v Speaker 2>played college ball at Notre Dame, and like you guys

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<v Speaker 2>get after it.

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<v Speaker 3>Like when I would lose, like to them, they would

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<v Speaker 3>like tell me I'm adopted.

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<v Speaker 2>And stuff, like the oldest trick in the book, the

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<v Speaker 2>oldest trick.

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<v Speaker 3>You're gonna get kicked off the family because you.

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<v Speaker 1>I Meanwhile, you guys look exactly the same. No one's mind.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you mentioned talking trash about a dog.

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<v Speaker 1>It's actually funny. So you are a certified dog.

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<v Speaker 2>We have had conversations on the show trying to talk

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<v Speaker 2>and like figure out exactly what constitutes a dog.

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<v Speaker 1>What makes a dog? Who's a dog?

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<v Speaker 2>Can you be a dog and a glue gal at

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<v Speaker 2>the same time. We've had all of those and one

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<v Speaker 2>of the things everyone agreed upon was that you are,

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<v Speaker 2>in fact a dog. How do you characterize a dog?

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like someone that has like toughness on the court,

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<v Speaker 3>like not like a punk, gonna get back up and

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<v Speaker 3>try again, like play with physicality, like have that mentality

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<v Speaker 3>of like we're down but like I'm still gonna come back.

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<v Speaker 3>We're still gonna come back. Like we're gonna make a play,

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<v Speaker 3>We're gonna get a stop, get a block, do make

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<v Speaker 3>do something, make something shake Like I always think about

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<v Speaker 3>like Candace Parker when I was on LA I was

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<v Speaker 3>only on there for a year, but it was almost

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<v Speaker 3>like she never thought she was gonna lose, like and

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<v Speaker 3>like as a rookie sometimes I'm like, oh gosh, we're

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<v Speaker 3>playing bad. I think we're gonna lose, you know, like

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<v Speaker 3>you don't know any better when you're not playing, like

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<v Speaker 3>and she's always saying like, okay, just do something for

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<v Speaker 3>somebody else. Then just do this. Oh, then just do this.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's like she always found a way to to

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<v Speaker 3>and we didn't always win every game, but we won

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of games. And Candace is always saying, do this,

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<v Speaker 3>we can just do this. Oh, I'm to take it

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<v Speaker 3>upon myself. I'm going to take the ball up the

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<v Speaker 3>court injurbble all the way up and score, like just

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<v Speaker 3>stuff like that, or time out, we need to reverse

0:18:07.440 --> 0:18:09.159
<v Speaker 3>the ball this way. You don't see how she's guarding you,

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<v Speaker 3>Just stuff where she's making everyone else around her better

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<v Speaker 3>and tougher and like challenging their ceiling. Yeah, and that's

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<v Speaker 3>kind of like how I see it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so dogs like what you do, but also how

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<v Speaker 2>you make other people do things. I'm putting you on

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<v Speaker 2>the spot here, but I'm gonna need your top five

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<v Speaker 2>dogs currently playing in the WNBA.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh damn, I only have top five. Yeah, this doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>mean best player? What does dog mean? Well?

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<v Speaker 2>You just now yeah, see you just defined it though,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I'll give you a couple of mine. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>gonna like be held to this because it's off the

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<v Speaker 2>top of my head.

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<v Speaker 1>But Skyler Diggins.

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<v Speaker 2>Kelsey Plum uh, Courtney Williams.

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<v Speaker 3>A shout out, Courtney Colia Copper ha yeah huh yeah, Like.

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<v Speaker 2>I think at Alissa Thomas is one. I mean, Angel

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<v Speaker 2>Reese is a dog in certain ways for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>All Right, so you wouldn't categorize like, so what do

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<v Speaker 3>you guys think about like Satu everyque and then like

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<v Speaker 3>what is that categorize as I.

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<v Speaker 1>Think Satu's a baby dog, She's a pup.

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<v Speaker 2>Satu's a puppy an angry pop, but pop I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>sure about ari K.

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<v Speaker 1>I think like ari Arik is a bucket more than

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<v Speaker 1>a dog to me.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I feel like she's like dog. You out,

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<v Speaker 3>like you really out there on the island with her, right, Like, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that's not fine.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like Chelsea Gray is a dog. Okay, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't agree.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I mean she's a four time champion dog. Like.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why it's complicated, is the way this conversation is horrid.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I got in a fight at the Final

0:19:55.359 --> 0:19:57.800
<v Speaker 2>four about whether Page Beckers is a dog. I say dog,

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<v Speaker 2>but she just looks like a little kid, Like she's

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<v Speaker 2>so cute that people mistake that she's a dog.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, who am I missing?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm with Ka for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm with Ka at Courtney Williams.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I definitely got Courtney in there. Asia like Asia.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just it's just a dog.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just hard because she's also like the best, So

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<v Speaker 2>it's like you don't first think dog, you think MVP

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<v Speaker 2>and then later dogs.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah facts, I hear that, But yeah, I mean, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>we got a lot of there's there's a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell me about coach Mezzanine does see how does he

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<v Speaker 2>handle your temperament?

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<v Speaker 1>How does he get the best at you?

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<v Speaker 3>I think right now he's still trying to figure out

0:20:41.840 --> 0:20:43.840
<v Speaker 3>what to say to me, which rightfully so I understand

0:20:43.880 --> 0:20:45.520
<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't know what to say to me either. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>I sometimes you just be looking at me like I

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<v Speaker 3>need you to calm down together, Are you okay? But

0:20:55.160 --> 0:20:57.200
<v Speaker 3>sometimes you just like grab my hand on the way

0:20:57.200 --> 0:21:01.439
<v Speaker 3>out the game and be like, you know, like come

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<v Speaker 3>right here, right here, you know, little little little, just

0:21:05.400 --> 0:21:07.840
<v Speaker 3>little subtle things like not to try to embarrass me

0:21:07.920 --> 0:21:11.560
<v Speaker 3>or anything, you know, like just to reel me back in.

0:21:11.680 --> 0:21:15.800
<v Speaker 3>But like Ron really like Ron and Chavante have been

0:21:15.880 --> 0:21:20.399
<v Speaker 3>like hands on about it. Like Ron like the other

0:21:20.480 --> 0:21:22.359
<v Speaker 3>day we were playing Atlanta and she just got up

0:21:22.720 --> 0:21:24.360
<v Speaker 3>and we were like they were shooting a free throw

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<v Speaker 3>and she just gave me a hugs.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's good.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me calm down, yeaheah.

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<v Speaker 2>They're like they're figuring out how to regulate you different tactics,

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<v Speaker 2>like yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Z sometimes will be like so are you going to

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<v Speaker 3>bitch or are you going to play? Are you going

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<v Speaker 3>to bitch? Or are you going to have thirty points?

0:21:43.760 --> 0:21:46.959
<v Speaker 3>Because you can't wait who says this? And I'm just like, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>Chavante is amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that.

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<v Speaker 3>And like even sometimes like the rookies like they've been

0:21:54.280 --> 0:21:57.280
<v Speaker 3>like like I know she just flipped you over, but

0:21:57.359 --> 0:22:00.080
<v Speaker 3>like what are we running? And you know, like what

0:21:59.840 --> 0:22:02.720
<v Speaker 3>are we doing? I need you to like or just

0:22:02.760 --> 0:22:05.080
<v Speaker 3>like it's okay, like they called the foul. They called it,

0:22:05.160 --> 0:22:07.600
<v Speaker 3>you know, so like they see it, like they see

0:22:07.640 --> 0:22:10.200
<v Speaker 3>like why they don't they see, like why I get

0:22:10.240 --> 0:22:13.639
<v Speaker 3>paid sometimes like this is crazy. She just hate me.

0:22:13.880 --> 0:22:15.520
<v Speaker 3>Like yesterday I was driving up the court and she

0:22:15.600 --> 0:22:17.600
<v Speaker 3>literally like someone that literally is like this in the

0:22:17.640 --> 0:22:19.040
<v Speaker 3>back of my head and straight in the back of

0:22:19.080 --> 0:22:21.320
<v Speaker 3>the head. And I'm literally just like I don't know,

0:22:21.640 --> 0:22:25.080
<v Speaker 3>I didn't see right, but like I'm standing right in

0:22:25.080 --> 0:22:26.119
<v Speaker 3>front of you and I have the ball, so like

0:22:26.119 --> 0:22:27.080
<v Speaker 3>I don't know what else you're watching.

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<v Speaker 2>To be honest, if I were a therapist, I would

0:22:29.600 --> 0:22:32.000
<v Speaker 2>tell you to control what you can control and understand

0:22:32.040 --> 0:22:33.840
<v Speaker 2>that they're always going to miss things and that it

0:22:33.880 --> 0:22:35.600
<v Speaker 2>takes you out of your game when you get mad.

0:22:35.880 --> 0:22:37.960
<v Speaker 1>But like, how do you miss that right?

0:22:38.080 --> 0:22:40.840
<v Speaker 3>Like right the head the head knock in the back

0:22:40.840 --> 0:22:42.200
<v Speaker 3>of the head, you missed right?

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<v Speaker 1>Tell yourself a story in your head.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I can't believe a fly flew directly

0:22:46.320 --> 0:22:49.040
<v Speaker 2>into the ref's eye right when that happened and they

0:22:49.040 --> 0:22:51.760
<v Speaker 2>were incapable of literally couldn't see it.

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<v Speaker 3>Ah, I will not be lying to myself.

0:22:55.480 --> 0:22:58.200
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes those stories help us get through those moments, even

0:22:58.200 --> 0:23:02.359
<v Speaker 2>if they're blatant lies. You know, you had to adjust

0:23:02.359 --> 0:23:04.240
<v Speaker 2>to this new coach and they had to adjust to you.

0:23:04.280 --> 0:23:06.160
<v Speaker 2>And this isn't the first time that's happened in your career.

0:23:06.160 --> 0:23:09.439
<v Speaker 2>You've been in a bunch of different spots. So I wonder, like,

0:23:09.520 --> 0:23:12.400
<v Speaker 2>when you find out you're being traded, do you remember

0:23:12.480 --> 0:23:16.400
<v Speaker 2>the moment of each of those teams, like actually hearing

0:23:16.440 --> 0:23:18.600
<v Speaker 2>the news and what your immediate reaction was.

0:23:19.680 --> 0:23:21.479
<v Speaker 3>I mean, my rookie year, I got traded because they

0:23:21.480 --> 0:23:25.200
<v Speaker 3>were trying to win a championship right away. They traded

0:23:25.200 --> 0:23:28.880
<v Speaker 3>me for like Simone Augustus and Christy Tolliver decent like that.

0:23:29.600 --> 0:23:31.200
<v Speaker 3>So they were trying to they were trying to win

0:23:31.280 --> 0:23:34.320
<v Speaker 3>right away, and Dallas was the sign was like I

0:23:34.359 --> 0:23:36.439
<v Speaker 3>was restricted for agent, so I could leave anyway. It

0:23:36.480 --> 0:23:38.320
<v Speaker 3>wasn't really like, oh we're getting rid of you or

0:23:38.359 --> 0:23:43.960
<v Speaker 3>anything that's part of the deal. I think the first

0:23:44.040 --> 0:23:47.760
<v Speaker 3>real trade honestly was Chicago. I mean it was what

0:23:47.800 --> 0:23:50.359
<v Speaker 3>it was. I knew it was coming like, you know,

0:23:50.800 --> 0:23:53.840
<v Speaker 3>things weren't working out. It wasn't I came to play

0:23:53.840 --> 0:23:58.119
<v Speaker 3>for James Wade. When he left, it just wasn't the

0:23:58.119 --> 0:24:00.879
<v Speaker 3>same for me. I wasn't playing the same POSI I

0:24:01.040 --> 0:24:03.240
<v Speaker 3>signed in Chicago for three years to be a point

0:24:03.240 --> 0:24:09.520
<v Speaker 3>guard and that just wasn't it. And then we weren't

0:24:09.520 --> 0:24:12.240
<v Speaker 3>winning either, and it just wasn't really going that well.

0:24:12.359 --> 0:24:17.439
<v Speaker 3>So it was better off to go and try to

0:24:17.440 --> 0:24:21.439
<v Speaker 3>win a championship with Connecticut, and obviously, although we fell short,

0:24:21.520 --> 0:24:24.880
<v Speaker 3>Like I'm really grateful for my time in both places, honestly,

0:24:26.800 --> 0:24:32.760
<v Speaker 3>because like Connecticut showed me how to win, even though

0:24:33.240 --> 0:24:35.919
<v Speaker 3>it's not happening right now, Like it showed me what

0:24:35.960 --> 0:24:38.440
<v Speaker 3>you have to do to win, and how at had

0:24:38.480 --> 0:24:43.520
<v Speaker 3>that team winning for so long at a consistent, really

0:24:43.600 --> 0:24:46.200
<v Speaker 3>high level, Like there were so many things that stood

0:24:46.200 --> 0:24:48.439
<v Speaker 3>out to me that I was like, oh, Okay, you

0:24:48.560 --> 0:24:50.239
<v Speaker 3>have to have that to win. You have to have that.

0:24:50.280 --> 0:24:54.720
<v Speaker 3>You can't have this. And then also in Chicago when

0:24:54.760 --> 0:24:56.960
<v Speaker 3>we weren't winning, it was like, Okay, I'm the leader

0:24:57.000 --> 0:24:59.360
<v Speaker 3>of his team and I'm not doing a good job

0:24:59.359 --> 0:25:01.520
<v Speaker 3>and I don't know, w what is it that I'm

0:25:01.560 --> 0:25:04.879
<v Speaker 3>not doing? So once I got to see what I

0:25:04.960 --> 0:25:07.720
<v Speaker 3>wasn't doing in Connecticut. Now I feel like I've become

0:25:07.760 --> 0:25:09.080
<v Speaker 3>a such a better leader.

0:25:10.040 --> 0:25:11.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's really interesting.

0:25:11.359 --> 0:25:14.000
<v Speaker 2>It does make such a difference too, like the expectations,

0:25:14.040 --> 0:25:15.439
<v Speaker 2>Like the same thing with the Sun though, Like you

0:25:15.520 --> 0:25:19.399
<v Speaker 2>signed a two year deal after being traded there, but

0:25:19.560 --> 0:25:22.679
<v Speaker 2>then they basically traded away all the players and the

0:25:22.720 --> 0:25:25.080
<v Speaker 2>coach left. So now you're in a completely different position

0:25:25.119 --> 0:25:27.840
<v Speaker 2>on a team that's starting more fresh than the one

0:25:27.840 --> 0:25:29.320
<v Speaker 2>that you got there, which was like on the verge

0:25:29.359 --> 0:25:32.280
<v Speaker 2>of a championship multiple years in a row. When you

0:25:32.400 --> 0:25:34.960
<v Speaker 2>asked them out and you said you wanted out, Like

0:25:35.000 --> 0:25:36.040
<v Speaker 2>what was the conversation?

0:25:36.200 --> 0:25:36.800
<v Speaker 1>Like how did that go?

0:25:37.600 --> 0:25:41.320
<v Speaker 3>You know, I built relationships in Chicago where, you know,

0:25:41.480 --> 0:25:43.520
<v Speaker 3>they understood that I wasn't in a good place there,

0:25:43.720 --> 0:25:47.560
<v Speaker 3>Like my mind wasn't good. Things were really tough there

0:25:47.600 --> 0:25:52.240
<v Speaker 3>for a little while. We weren't winning. You couldn't figure

0:25:52.280 --> 0:25:56.119
<v Speaker 3>it out, And they knew I came to play for

0:25:56.200 --> 0:25:58.920
<v Speaker 3>James Wade. So when they figured out that they could

0:25:58.920 --> 0:26:00.760
<v Speaker 3>get a couple pieces back, that they'd be able to

0:26:00.760 --> 0:26:04.080
<v Speaker 3>get a couple of their picks back, we came to

0:26:04.119 --> 0:26:07.639
<v Speaker 3>an understanding of you know, we want her to be happy.

0:26:07.680 --> 0:26:09.840
<v Speaker 3>We've built a really good relationship with her. We don't

0:26:09.840 --> 0:26:12.679
<v Speaker 3>want to keep someone here that maybe doesn't belong here

0:26:12.760 --> 0:26:15.640
<v Speaker 3>right now, doesn't fit on this team anymore. Where Whereas

0:26:16.400 --> 0:26:18.480
<v Speaker 3>when we had me Courtney and Ka I did fit.

0:26:18.520 --> 0:26:21.480
<v Speaker 3>I fit perfectly, Like I had my best year in numbers.

0:26:22.440 --> 0:26:25.880
<v Speaker 3>So it was really mutual and like I still talk

0:26:26.040 --> 0:26:29.320
<v Speaker 3>with them like all the people there all the time.

0:26:30.640 --> 0:26:33.320
<v Speaker 3>So I'm grateful that they did let me go because

0:26:33.359 --> 0:26:36.040
<v Speaker 3>it was just a mutual agreement of like, you know,

0:26:36.080 --> 0:26:38.040
<v Speaker 3>we get it. Obviously, we love you and we want

0:26:38.080 --> 0:26:41.160
<v Speaker 3>you to be here, but we do get it. So

0:26:41.280 --> 0:26:44.080
<v Speaker 3>I appreciate them a lot for that, for understanding that

0:26:44.520 --> 0:26:46.560
<v Speaker 3>when there's a player that doesn't want to be somewhere,

0:26:46.640 --> 0:26:49.919
<v Speaker 3>really isn't happy anymore, you know, you want them to

0:26:49.960 --> 0:26:52.000
<v Speaker 3>go and be be themselves somewhere else.

0:26:52.320 --> 0:26:55.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So if that doesn't happen and you end up

0:26:55.760 --> 0:26:58.400
<v Speaker 2>somewhere that maybe the situation is different than what you'd hope.

0:26:58.400 --> 0:26:59.120
<v Speaker 1>What's your approach?

0:26:59.240 --> 0:27:02.159
<v Speaker 2>How do you get your self back focused on the

0:27:02.240 --> 0:27:04.640
<v Speaker 2>job at hand, getting the most out of your year

0:27:05.160 --> 0:27:07.560
<v Speaker 2>or making it work well.

0:27:07.600 --> 0:27:11.000
<v Speaker 3>Obviously you know this wasn't exactly in our plans, Like

0:27:12.000 --> 0:27:13.680
<v Speaker 3>you know, I would have thought in twenty six, if

0:27:13.720 --> 0:27:17.119
<v Speaker 3>Connecticut didn't win the finals that maybe then at the

0:27:17.160 --> 0:27:20.280
<v Speaker 3>new CBA reset, maybe it would you know, the pieces

0:27:20.320 --> 0:27:23.399
<v Speaker 3>would change. I didn't know that it was going to

0:27:23.440 --> 0:27:28.240
<v Speaker 3>happen in twenty five right before it. I think I

0:27:28.359 --> 0:27:30.560
<v Speaker 3>just had to come to a realization that Like I

0:27:30.600 --> 0:27:33.199
<v Speaker 3>feel like, I know it's cliche, but I feel like

0:27:33.640 --> 0:27:36.280
<v Speaker 3>for some reason, I keep getting put in the same position.

0:27:36.600 --> 0:27:40.800
<v Speaker 3>And is it because God has a plan for me

0:27:40.960 --> 0:27:44.000
<v Speaker 3>to grow into something way bigger than I even thought

0:27:44.040 --> 0:27:46.679
<v Speaker 3>I could be. Can I carry a team somewhere that

0:27:46.760 --> 0:27:49.800
<v Speaker 3>nobody thinks can go anywhere? Like I feel like the

0:27:49.840 --> 0:27:52.359
<v Speaker 3>answer is yes, because why else I keep getting put

0:27:52.400 --> 0:27:55.400
<v Speaker 3>in this position? Like what's the odds that everybody's gone?

0:27:55.840 --> 0:28:00.639
<v Speaker 3>That's insane, Like no one would have guessed that. So

0:28:00.680 --> 0:28:03.160
<v Speaker 3>now I'm just trying to figure out a way to

0:28:03.240 --> 0:28:05.760
<v Speaker 3>be that leader that I obviously can be, or else

0:28:05.800 --> 0:28:11.320
<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't keep put in this position, and I just

0:28:11.359 --> 0:28:13.359
<v Speaker 3>have to work through it instead of trying to trying

0:28:13.400 --> 0:28:16.480
<v Speaker 3>to go somewhere where I think where I think it's

0:28:16.480 --> 0:28:18.439
<v Speaker 3>going to be perfect, where I think I can do

0:28:18.520 --> 0:28:21.680
<v Speaker 3>what I want to do, and maybe I need to

0:28:21.720 --> 0:28:25.920
<v Speaker 3>just make it work, and that's where and that's where

0:28:25.960 --> 0:28:31.680
<v Speaker 3>everything that I think I can become comes. Yeah, because

0:28:31.680 --> 0:28:34.840
<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure anymore. Like it's obviously everybody has a

0:28:34.840 --> 0:28:41.080
<v Speaker 3>different journey, but my journey has been insane, So i

0:28:41.080 --> 0:28:43.000
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't trade it for the world because I'm grateful to

0:28:43.040 --> 0:28:44.720
<v Speaker 3>be here. I was the nineteenth pick and now I'm

0:28:44.760 --> 0:28:47.120
<v Speaker 3>considered one of the best players in the world, so

0:28:47.280 --> 0:28:51.440
<v Speaker 3>I never saw that coming. But I still think I

0:28:51.440 --> 0:28:53.320
<v Speaker 3>have so much more to offer. And if I can

0:28:53.520 --> 0:28:56.080
<v Speaker 3>kind of be where my feet are and not always

0:28:56.120 --> 0:28:59.040
<v Speaker 3>think that maybe there's something better, I will get everything

0:28:59.040 --> 0:29:00.920
<v Speaker 3>that I think that I can be.

0:29:02.120 --> 0:29:03.400
<v Speaker 1>That's such a good perspective.

0:29:03.560 --> 0:29:06.200
<v Speaker 2>It really is like, if I keep getting the same

0:29:06.240 --> 0:29:08.400
<v Speaker 2>result when I ask out, maybe I have to go

0:29:08.480 --> 0:29:11.440
<v Speaker 2>through exactly and figure out what it means to go

0:29:11.480 --> 0:29:13.320
<v Speaker 2>through this thing that I don't know that I want

0:29:13.400 --> 0:29:14.680
<v Speaker 2>or I don't know if it's the right fit, and

0:29:14.720 --> 0:29:16.680
<v Speaker 2>then make it work well enough to know that anywhere

0:29:16.680 --> 0:29:18.640
<v Speaker 2>you go you can make it work. And I love

0:29:18.680 --> 0:29:21.160
<v Speaker 2>the perspective of putting that weight on your shoulders because

0:29:21.160 --> 0:29:23.920
<v Speaker 2>you are this incredible story of a second round pick

0:29:23.960 --> 0:29:26.320
<v Speaker 2>that's made it great and becomes the centerpiece of a team,

0:29:26.320 --> 0:29:28.600
<v Speaker 2>and you have a real opportunity. It's been a tough start,

0:29:28.640 --> 0:29:31.200
<v Speaker 2>but you get to help this next generation of players,

0:29:31.200 --> 0:29:34.120
<v Speaker 2>and you already are bringing them such good perspective. And

0:29:34.120 --> 0:29:36.280
<v Speaker 2>there's so many I mean, next year's the league's in

0:29:36.320 --> 0:29:38.400
<v Speaker 2>a blow up, the Sun might get sold to a

0:29:38.440 --> 0:29:40.680
<v Speaker 2>different owner. I mean, there is just so much that

0:29:40.720 --> 0:29:43.080
<v Speaker 2>we don't know and can't control that. All you have

0:29:43.240 --> 0:29:44.760
<v Speaker 2>is like, what can I do for this team right

0:29:44.800 --> 0:29:47.640
<v Speaker 2>now in this moment, which is awesome.

0:29:47.680 --> 0:29:48.440
<v Speaker 1>I love to hear that.

0:29:49.040 --> 0:29:51.800
<v Speaker 2>Well, hopefully we'll have you back down later in the season.

0:29:52.360 --> 0:29:55.120
<v Speaker 2>We'll ask you how that's going. It sounds like you've

0:29:55.120 --> 0:29:56.280
<v Speaker 2>got a great perspective on it.

0:29:56.280 --> 0:29:57.480
<v Speaker 3>It's going to be going better.

0:29:57.640 --> 0:30:00.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's got to be right. I mean, listen, sky fans.

0:30:00.680 --> 0:30:03.760
<v Speaker 2>So I'm like, okay, progress. We had a sixteen point lead.

0:30:03.800 --> 0:30:06.240
<v Speaker 2>We blew it and we lost, but at one point

0:30:06.320 --> 0:30:09.800
<v Speaker 2>we were leading a game by a significant number of points.

0:30:09.880 --> 0:30:11.280
<v Speaker 1>Maybe next time they'll keep it.

0:30:11.360 --> 0:30:13.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we were beating Minnesota the other day.

0:30:13.400 --> 0:30:16.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, that was baby steps, baby steps.

0:30:16.720 --> 0:30:18.680
<v Speaker 2>Well, thanks so much for hopping on with us. Get

0:30:18.680 --> 0:30:20.520
<v Speaker 2>some cooking with Maybury going. We want to see those

0:30:20.560 --> 0:30:23.640
<v Speaker 2>cookies and some more. We need more proof that you've

0:30:23.640 --> 0:30:25.920
<v Speaker 2>figured out the spices, if not just for us, but

0:30:25.920 --> 0:30:29.000
<v Speaker 2>for DJA. I know that's important to her. So thanks

0:30:29.040 --> 0:30:29.840
<v Speaker 2>so much for the time.

0:30:31.120 --> 0:30:31.560
<v Speaker 1>Thank you.

0:30:34.440 --> 0:30:36.440
<v Speaker 2>We got to take another quick break when we come

0:30:36.480 --> 0:30:39.160
<v Speaker 2>back a lacrosse What the fact that'll make you want

0:30:39.200 --> 0:30:53.760
<v Speaker 2>to get called for slashing welcome back slices. It's time

0:30:53.800 --> 0:30:57.760
<v Speaker 2>for another What the fact? You might remember earlier in

0:30:57.760 --> 0:31:00.280
<v Speaker 2>the week we told you about UNC winning Sun d's

0:31:00.320 --> 0:31:04.560
<v Speaker 2>Division One College Lacrosse National championship, completing their undefeated season

0:31:04.560 --> 0:31:07.520
<v Speaker 2>in front of a record fourteen thousand, four hundred twenty

0:31:07.520 --> 0:31:10.720
<v Speaker 2>three fans, and we mentioned that that tally knocked off

0:31:10.720 --> 0:31:13.880
<v Speaker 2>the previous record from twenty seventeen. Well, when you dig

0:31:13.920 --> 0:31:17.320
<v Speaker 2>into the history of NCUBLEA lacrosse championships, breaking a twenty

0:31:17.360 --> 0:31:20.840
<v Speaker 2>seventeen record makes sense. First, let's go back to twenty

0:31:20.840 --> 0:31:23.800
<v Speaker 2>twenty one. You may recall that the NCAA commissioned a

0:31:23.800 --> 0:31:28.080
<v Speaker 2>big investigation into gender equity following outrage over the disparities

0:31:28.080 --> 0:31:30.800
<v Speaker 2>between the men's and women's basketball tournaments. While the law

0:31:30.800 --> 0:31:34.360
<v Speaker 2>firm that conducted the investigation, Kaplan, Hecker and Fink, dug

0:31:34.360 --> 0:31:37.600
<v Speaker 2>into the NCAA's treatment of lots of other championships too,

0:31:38.000 --> 0:31:43.160
<v Speaker 2>including lacrosse, and the findings were very curious. So historically,

0:31:43.240 --> 0:31:46.360
<v Speaker 2>men's lacrosse has hosted its D one, D two, and

0:31:46.560 --> 0:31:50.360
<v Speaker 2>D three championships at the same venue, usually using NFL

0:31:50.440 --> 0:31:54.120
<v Speaker 2>facilities that can see tens of thousands of fans at

0:31:54.120 --> 0:31:56.320
<v Speaker 2>the same time, the D one, D two, and D

0:31:56.400 --> 0:31:59.800
<v Speaker 2>three women's events have been held separately in smaller venues

0:32:00.160 --> 0:32:04.040
<v Speaker 2>fewer resources. For example, the KHF report outlines how in

0:32:04.080 --> 0:32:08.240
<v Speaker 2>twenty nineteen, quote men's lacrosse sold twenty eighty, one hundred

0:32:08.240 --> 0:32:11.320
<v Speaker 2>and sixty tickets to the Division one men's final in

0:32:11.360 --> 0:32:13.920
<v Speaker 2>a stadium with a capacity for sixty seven thousand and

0:32:14.000 --> 0:32:18.400
<v Speaker 2>five ninety four, while women's lacrosse sold nine and seventeen

0:32:18.440 --> 0:32:20.840
<v Speaker 2>tickets to the Division one women's final in a stadium

0:32:20.880 --> 0:32:24.600
<v Speaker 2>with a capacity for eighty five hundred end Quote. Yeah,

0:32:24.760 --> 0:32:27.760
<v Speaker 2>you heard that right. They sold over nine thousand tickets

0:32:27.760 --> 0:32:30.080
<v Speaker 2>for a stadium with a capacity of eighty five hundred.

0:32:30.440 --> 0:32:32.920
<v Speaker 2>You got to assume that standing room only. Either way,

0:32:33.000 --> 0:32:37.040
<v Speaker 2>Clearly the venue not big enough. So where was that

0:32:37.200 --> 0:32:42.640
<v Speaker 2>twenty seventeen championship that had the previous record Gillette Stadium. Yeah,

0:32:42.720 --> 0:32:45.440
<v Speaker 2>so it's not like people suddenly became more interested in

0:32:45.480 --> 0:32:48.320
<v Speaker 2>women's across this year than last year or the year before.

0:32:48.720 --> 0:32:50.640
<v Speaker 2>It's just that more of them were able to fit

0:32:50.680 --> 0:32:53.400
<v Speaker 2>in the venue again. Now, it's worth noting that the

0:32:53.440 --> 0:32:56.280
<v Speaker 2>women's D one Championship was held at Gillette this year,

0:32:56.280 --> 0:32:59.080
<v Speaker 2>along with the men's D one, two, and three championships,

0:32:59.360 --> 0:33:01.840
<v Speaker 2>but the D two when D three women's Championships were

0:33:01.840 --> 0:33:06.040
<v Speaker 2>all still held elsewhere. Tous lacrosse coach courtney' shoot actually

0:33:06.040 --> 0:33:09.200
<v Speaker 2>called the NCAA out after this year's D three championship game,

0:33:09.360 --> 0:33:11.840
<v Speaker 2>which the Jumbos lost ten to nine to Middlebury.

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<v Speaker 1>Take a listen.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, Salem does a great job with this championship,

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<v Speaker 4>So I hope anything I'm going to say doesn't come

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<v Speaker 4>across offensive. But this is a hard place to get

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<v Speaker 4>to and the NCAA needs to do something about accessibility

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<v Speaker 4>of the championship. We had an incredible crowd, but our

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<v Speaker 4>men are playing for a national championship in front of

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<v Speaker 4>all there alarms tonight and that's an issue. And I

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<v Speaker 4>was hoping to say this when we won. I have

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<v Speaker 4>notes prepared because I think it's a real thing we

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<v Speaker 4>got to talk about. I promise these girls that if

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<v Speaker 4>we want a national championship, I was going to fight

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<v Speaker 4>for equity. I'm going to do it either way. It

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<v Speaker 4>deserves some attention and against Salem Rono College do a

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<v Speaker 4>fantastic job once we're here, but this is a hard

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<v Speaker 4>place to get to. We had four A launs here today.

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<v Speaker 4>I had one hundreds reach out that would have been

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<v Speaker 4>there in a major city. Our men get to do that.

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<v Speaker 4>And there's an accessibility issue for the Division III Lacrosse

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<v Speaker 4>Championships that is inequitable.

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<v Speaker 2>And get this so per the KHF report, multiple sources

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<v Speaker 2>said when planning ahead for the twenty twenty five championships,

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<v Speaker 2>Jillette Stadium was willing to host all three women's competitions,

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<v Speaker 2>but the D one Men's Lacrosse Committee was concerned about

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<v Speaker 2>hosting too many championships and teams at one venue.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's a snippet of the report quote.

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<v Speaker 2>The D one Men's Committee expressed concern about the significant

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<v Speaker 2>scale of hosting six championships with at least sixteen teams

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<v Speaker 2>over one weekend for an outdoor sport. There were also

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<v Speaker 2>concerns with, among other things, the scheduling of the championships,

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<v Speaker 2>including because the Division two and three women and their

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<v Speaker 2>season a week before the men, and the ability to

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<v Speaker 2>provide sufficient practice times for the teams competing in all

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<v Speaker 2>six championships.

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<v Speaker 1>End quote yeah totally so just.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, giving the women's D two and D three

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<v Speaker 2>champs their time to shine right, must be about logistics nonsense.

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<v Speaker 2>Kudos to Gillette Stadium's operation folks for caring more about

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<v Speaker 2>women's lacrosse than the NCAA Division one men's lacrosse committee does.

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