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Speaker 1: hot takes, break free for something special. The Fifth Hour

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Speaker 1: with Ben Maller starts right now. Morning madness in the

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Speaker 1: air everywhere. Well go man, the beginning of another edition

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Speaker 1: of The Fifth Hour with Ben Mallard. That would be

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Speaker 1: me flying solo today, but not flying solo because this

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Speaker 1: your drinks, you get absolutely mangled in about an hour.

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00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,679
Speaker 1: I can I can remember. I can were walking through Charleston,

427
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,720
Speaker 1: hammered and trying not to trip over my feet on

428
00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,520
Speaker 1: the cobblestone walkways, and I'm thinking, man, this is like

429
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:13,120
Speaker 1: seventeen century stuff. This is like historic. You know, there's

430
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,679
Speaker 1: people that probably fought and died for these lands. And

431
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 1: here I am wreaking the booze and I just got

432
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:22,960
Speaker 1: here forty five minutes ago because I don't know what

433
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,000
Speaker 1: damn single person here, and I've only got about thirty

434
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,880
Speaker 1: dollars to spend, including the cab right to get back

435
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 1: to North Charleston because I make so little money in

436
00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:34,080
Speaker 1: my quote unquote dream job. But it was a great time,

437
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,600
Speaker 1: fun times all the way through. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know,

438
00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,800
Speaker 1: I hear. And when I when your name comes up, though, Jonas,

439
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:45,280
Speaker 1: the one thing that people often bring up is Chuck E. Cheese,

440
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:52,600
Speaker 1: the cartoon rodent that you famously wore the costume. Was

441
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,119
Speaker 1: this a right? And you've told me the story. I

442
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 1: was this a part time thing? Was this were you

443
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:03,880
Speaker 1: filling in you said the kids were terrible. Yeah, they're

444
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 1: they're awful. They're there, and let me tell you, Like, uh,

445
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:11,119
Speaker 1: so here's what happened. So I grew up poor, so

446
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,639
Speaker 1: we always had to have jobs. So there was you know,

447
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 1: we didn't I never got an allowance of my entire

448
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 1: life anything we wanted, Like we had to have jobs,

449
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,960
Speaker 1: like you were poor. And so from the earliest, like

450
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 1: I was a janitor at an elementary school when I

451
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,399
Speaker 1: probably wasn't old enough to be a janitor in an

452
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 1: elementary school. Like I was, like, I did anything I could.

453
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,560
Speaker 1: I was in high school and I needed a job,

454
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 1: and my buddy said, hey, Chuck E Cheese just opened

455
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 1: up and they were paying like more than minimum wage.

456
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 1: And minimum wage was like five seventy five or whatever

457
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,399
Speaker 1: it was back then. Chuck E Cheese was paying like

458
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,640
Speaker 1: six oh five. And if you could get twenty cents more,

459
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,640
Speaker 1: I mean, at the time, you're thinking, man, this is fantastic.

460
00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 1: So nobody nobody signs up to be the damn rat. Okay,

461
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 1: nobody signs up to dress like a giant stuffed animal

462
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 1: and get abused by a bunch of spore little brats.

463
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 1: Nobody wants that but you get there and everybody's got

464
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,440
Speaker 1: to take turns doing it, and so you know, you

465
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 1: gotta you gotta clean up birthday parties, and you gotta

466
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 1: throw stuff away and bus tables, and you know, to

467
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 1: work the game machine and sweep up and do all

468
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,920
Speaker 1: these things. And then every everybody, depending on the shift,

469
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 1: takes turns doing Chucky. And I think it was like

470
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,360
Speaker 1: twice an hour maybe or once an hour. It's it's

471
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 1: basically the you know, the national updates at Fox Sports Radio,

472
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 1: and that's that's when Chucky takes takes stage twice an hour.

473
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,639
Speaker 1: And so I remember the first time they had me

474
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:47,399
Speaker 1: do it. I wanted to make my buddy laugh. And

475
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 1: when you dance up on the stage, it goes up

476
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 1: on the blue screen on all the little TVs around

477
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 1: the restaurant, and so I knew that he was watching,

478
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,919
Speaker 1: and nobody knew that it was me. So I was

479
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,399
Speaker 1: doing remember the Jamal Anderson Dirty Birds? Oh yeah, that,

480
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I did. I did that. I would like

481
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 1: the the the Akey Shuffle, I did the shot. Did

482
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,680
Speaker 1: you do the river? Did you do the river danceco

483
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:18,400
Speaker 1: River Dance? Oh? Like anything I could come up. So

484
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 1: at one point I was doing ravishing rick rude. When

485
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,879
Speaker 1: I started getting really really caught, like cocky about it.

486
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:28,160
Speaker 1: I started doing ravishing rick rude, which is the hip gyration,

487
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,200
Speaker 1: and then I would I would rub my hands against

488
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 1: my chest and act like I was throwing sweat at

489
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,639
Speaker 1: people's face like it was so I was. I started

490
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 1: going over there because I just thought, all this is temporary,

491
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,439
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden they just kept me

492
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 1: doing it, and it would be like a month, and

493
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 1: then a month and a half and then two and

494
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,359
Speaker 1: finally I'm like, man, like, I'm getting tired of this

495
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:52,680
Speaker 1: because you're walking around it's hot as balls inside the costume.

496
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 1: You get you get these little spoiled brats whose parents

497
00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,240
Speaker 1: only are having a birthday party there because they don't

498
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 1: want to have to clean up the mess and chuck

499
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 1: e cheese serves beer. So you got Dad's walking around.

500
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 1: They at one point, Dad's just decide, are we we're

501
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,439
Speaker 1: no longer gonna you know, walk around with the picture

502
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 1: of beer and poured into a glass. They're just drinking

503
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 1: straight from the picture at this point. So they're they're

504
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 1: they're getting annihilated, and you're and I can remember multiple

505
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 1: times I remember a kid, and you can't talk. So

506
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,400
Speaker 1: the whole time this is happening, you can't talk through

507
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 1: the mask. You're not allowed to see them, you know,

508
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 1: show you just gotta be goofy and you gotta do

509
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 1: all this. I remember this kid, and I didn't see

510
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 1: him until the last second, but I remember seeing out

511
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,639
Speaker 1: at the corner of my mask, this giant mask. This

512
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 1: kid runs up and he hits me as hard as

513
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 1: he can in the balls, I mean direct shot one. Yeah,

514
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,439
Speaker 1: he didn't get one, he got both and and And

515
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 1: I got to give him credit for the accuracy because

516
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 1: he was able to do that through the suit, through

517
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 1: the fake stomach, lining, through all of it. And I

518
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,239
Speaker 1: remember I bent down. I was down, like I had

519
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 1: literally hand on my knees and my buddies acting like

520
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,439
Speaker 1: he's not talking to me. So he comes over and

521
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,399
Speaker 1: pretends like he's sweeping the floor and he's got like

522
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 1: the little dust pan out and he's swooping in and

523
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 1: he's like, hey man, you're all right, And I just

524
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 1: started cursing as loud as like, and I'm like, I'm

525
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 1: all this Sam effort and him, I'm all, I'm all,

526
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 1: I'm literally gonna go drag his dad outside and beat

527
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: his and and at the top of my leves and

528
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,360
Speaker 1: I'm literally looking for the kid's dad. I was pissed

529
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 1: and so and so all this is happening. This kid,

530
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,959
Speaker 1: like you know, he's like run around. He thinks it's funny. Um.

531
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 1: And then we end up taking a picture. And while

532
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 1: we're taking the picture together, right as they go right

533
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 1: on the count of three, one, two, three, and right

534
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 1: as they go on the count of three, I like

535
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 1: squeeze the kid's neck real quick. And as they as

536
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 1: they snapped the picture, the kid goes and he like

537
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,439
Speaker 1: opens his mouth and he's and he's and I go,

538
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 1: oh know, I'm sorry about like like I'm apologized. I

539
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 1: didn't okay, So all of this is happening. Heather Locklear

540
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 1: walks in. All right, so this is the Absolutely it's

541
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 1: a Saturday. It was pure chaos. So Heather Locklear walks

542
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 1: in and somewhere on her mantle there's a picture of

543
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 1: her kid having their birthday party. Um with and I'm

544
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 1: like a teenager at this time. It's her her kid's

545
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 1: birthday party and all this stuff. And you see Heather

546
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 1: Locklear and her family and there's a there's a chucky

547
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 1: he was like about five eleven, because I think I

548
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: think it was like this time, maybe there's a checking

549
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 1: who's like five eleven and it's me and Heather Lockler's

550
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 1: photo dressed up as a giant rat, probably on a

551
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 1: mantle somewhere in her house. So it was you know,

552
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 1: but at a certain point, I just couldn't do it anymore.

553
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 1: And then a bachelorette party came in. Uh and uh,

554
00:28:55,960 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 1: you know, cheese, a bachelorette party cheese. So this is, yeah,

555
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 1: this is I couldn't even blue it. So my boss

556
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 1: while all this is happening, my boss told me at

557
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 1: one point, hey, you need to you need to slow

558
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: it down with the dancing. I was like why, I'm

559
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 1: all like, at least you do let me have some fun.

560
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 1: I'm getting abused by these kids, like they're assaulting me.

561
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 1: At least at least let me have some funny because

562
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 1: none of But the problem is you're doing too many

563
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 1: hip gyrations. He's all that stuff's going his true story.

564
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 1: He's all that stuff's going over the screens everywhere. He's

565
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 1: also you know, we just you know, parents are kind

566
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 1: of wondering what's going on. With this. Okay, well, you

567
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 1: know I'm not trying to piss him off, so all right, yeah,

568
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll slow it down. So a couple of

569
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 1: weeks later, there's a He comes up to me on

570
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 1: a Friday night and he goes, hey, Chucky. I was like,

571
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 1: what's up. He goes, all right, I'm gonna need you

572
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 1: special request. Well, what's that? There's a bachelorrette party out

573
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 1: there on the side of booth and I'm all and

574
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 1: others not. He goes, yeah, And I said, what loser

575
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 1: comes here for a bachelor up? I know, he goes.

576
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 1: He goes. He goes, I know, but hey, he's all

577
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 1: there here, He's other four of them. They're over there

578
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 1: in the corner. I was like, so, what do you

579
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 1: want me to do? He goes, well, you know, do

580
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 1: what you do. I'm okay, well, if I do what

581
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 1: I do, do I have your permission that I can

582
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 1: really do what I do. He goes, just this once,

583
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 1: while you promise I'm not going to get in trouble.

584
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 1: He goes, yeah, just this once. So I get into costume.

585
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 1: I walk over there. I'm not even kidding you. I

586
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 1: propped my foot up on the table. All right, and

587
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 1: start grinding the air as if like like I'm doing

588
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 1: hip thrust and I and I put this on everything out.

589
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: This is absolutely true grinding twerking back. Before me, it

590
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 1: was twerking um like you know, uh, like dipping her

591
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 1: back like like holding her and then like dipping like

592
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 1: it was like you doing like like a chipping Dale's

593
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 1: dancer with Chuck. It was it was you know, Magic

594
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 1: Mike way before Magic in a giant, disgusting costume that's

595
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 1: never been sanitized or clean or anything like that. So

596
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: the best the best part is so they're like trying

597
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 1: to give me dollar bills or whatever, and I think

598
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 1: I gave him to like the cooks or one of

599
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: the dishwasher because they give me a couple of bucks

600
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: and other. Okay, so I leave and when you go

601
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 1: back and you change, nobody knows it's you. So you

602
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 1: go back to the game room, you change. I made

603
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 1: it a point to change, get back into my regular

604
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 1: you know, chucky out for like I was working, and

605
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 1: then come by there and bust their table afterwards, just

606
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: so they had no idea that the person that is

607
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: now cleaning up their crumby pizza trays is the same

608
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: guy that just made her basically have an affair on

609
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 1: her future husband with a giant rat that you pull

610
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 1: out of a craw machine at some at some crumby

611
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 1: carnival somewhere. Well, I bet you, Jonas, I bet those

612
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 1: those uh you know, years ago but probably stay probably

613
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 1: still tell that story. Do you remember when Chuck e Cheese?

614
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, yeah, you'll never believe that. And by the way,

615
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: little little they know, they're probably like, whatever happened to

616
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 1: the guy who played Chucky and you could just go, oh,

617
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: it's easy. He made it to mad Clowns, Mallard Militia.

618
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 1: He's the guy getting run over by the Corvett by

619
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 1: the Cadillac that is they still have that, by the way. Yeah,

620
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 1: now I have a somewhere I don't it's in storage,

621
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 1: but I have a drawing. I I printed the thing

622
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 1: up like in a poster. And you you will be

623
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 1: when I when I get that out of storage, You'll

624
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 1: be hanging in the in the Mallard mansion. But I

625
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: gotta tell you, Jones, when you mentioned the smell of

626
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 1: the Chucky Cheese outfit. When I was in Milwaukee years ago,

627
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 1: I was doing some stuff with the Dodgers and we're

628
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: County Stadium. And I walked through the bowels of County Stadium,

629
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: which no longer exists, and we went to one of

630
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: the rooms on the side there and they had the

631
00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 1: racing sausages, the costumes. Right, we're we're out in this

632
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: in this room and the smell, the stench of these things.

633
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: Jonas I was like all excited. I was like, you know,

634
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 1: I was a naive. I didn't realize that these things

635
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: never get cleaned. And I remember I was walking over.

636
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, I can kind of you know,

637
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 1: I can hold the sausages, you know, the outfit. And

638
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: I went over and the stench and it was just horrific,

639
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 1: and uh, it's it's so gross man like because there's

640
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 1: no there's nowhere for the sweat to go. Like when

641
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 1: when they when they design those things, we're not we're

642
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 1: not talking about like, you know, high profile athletes to

643
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 1: where you've got like these they're they're not golfers who

644
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: have these sweat resistance hats and shirts and they're just

645
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 1: trying to make it. They're trying to make something that

646
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 1: looks like a kill bossa there what you're thinking about,

647
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: you know, like, I mean, what are we talking about here?

648
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 1: It's like it does it look like does it look

649
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: like a brought worse or not? All right? Cool? Then

650
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: then get in it and let's run like it smells man,

651
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: And it's hard to clean. And back then, like people

652
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 1: weren't worrying about sanitizing and keeping things cleanly and clean

653
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,760
Speaker 1: and cleanliness wasn't a priority. So yeah, getting in that

654
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 1: that costume, it's it's awful and you're running in the

655
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 1: sun in the hot summer months. The humidity in the

656
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 1: Midwest is just disgusting. It is terrible. And I gotta

657
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 1: tell you, Josh, you were ahead of your time. You know,

658
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 1: everyone with COVID you gotta you know, clean everything and

659
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 1: all you were when I first met you, Jonas, you

660
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 1: have always been Mr Clean, you really have. I give

661
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,240
Speaker 1: you credit. There's so many pigs that work in radio,

662
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: so many disheveled animals that work in our business. And

663
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 1: you you're like the anti that guy. You really are.

664
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 1: I mean you come in there and you and and

665
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: way before it was cool to do what you do.

666
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,240
Speaker 1: You know, you're you're cleaning everything, You're wiping stuff down.

667
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: I give you credit. I don't I don't do that.

668
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 1: You do you do, it's good job by you. So

669
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 1: so here's here's the story behind that, um my first

670
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 1: radio job. I end somebody was somebody showed up to

671
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 1: work and they were sick, and of course they got

672
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: the entire studio sick, and and I just remember being

673
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 1: so piste off and thinking, man, you gotta be kidding me,

674
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 1: like literally you should. And I just remember thinking I'm

675
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 1: never gonna have that happen again. And so for the

676
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 1: rest of my time. And everyone when I first started there,

677
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 1: everyone thought I have O c D. What do you

678
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 1: Howie Mandel? Because Howie Mandel is just you know, like

679
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 1: the guy's a giant germ flo I guess so people

680
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 1: people are making fun of me, and I did for

681
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 1: a couple of reasons. Number one, I don't want to

682
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 1: get sick, because if we're sick on the air, like

683
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 1: we're done, Like we can't just show up and hide

684
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 1: behind the scenes. It doesn't work that way. So I

685
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 1: can't get sick. I needed to work, um And also

686
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: because you know, I mean, I've been you know, taking

687
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 1: care of my mom and taking care of sick people

688
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: for a long long time. I can't get them sick,

689
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 1: so I would always make sure I got sanitizer, I

690
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: got everything else. And then the more that I thought

691
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 1: about it, while I was doing in radio, I was like, well,

692
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 1: I should be doing this everywhere, So I would have

693
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 1: sanitizer on me in my blood box to where if

694
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 1: I go pump gas, I would use sanitizer. And it

695
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: would blow my mind to see these slobs that would

696
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 1: get in their car pump gas and then get back

697
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 1: in their car and dig into a bag of funyans

698
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 1: and start eating from the bag, and and and the

699
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 1: whole time, I'm thinking to myself when they're taking a

700
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: bite out of those funyans, and they're probably, man, I

701
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: earned this, this is my reward. I really hustled today,

702
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: and now I'm gonna go have a couple of drinks.

703
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking myself, do you know how much ball

704
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 1: sweat and get rock? Just you you just took in

705
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 1: because because you couldn't you you couldn't wash your damn hands.

706
00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:01,320
Speaker 1: It's it's just I gotta tell the best investment I

707
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: ever made is the mic condom. I guess we call

708
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: it like the phone because you know a lot of

709
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:11,399
Speaker 1: us are working from home these day and you're still

710
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 1: going in and I give your credit for that. Um,

711
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,760
Speaker 1: but when you go to the radio station when everyone's

712
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,280
Speaker 1: using the same microphones and a lot of people don't

713
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 1: have their own mic cover, and it's you're putting your

714
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 1: mouth as close as you possibly can to the microphone

715
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 1: to talk properly, and everyone twenty four hours a day

716
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 1: is using the same microphones. It's disgusting. And so it's

717
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: one way to come back. Jon's I've kept you for

718
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 1: way too long, my man. I'm I'm very happy for you.

719
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 1: I'm glad the company finally made a good move here

720
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 1: putting you on the morning show and uh continued successful. Man. Well,

721
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: now listen, and I mean this and all society and

722
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,879
Speaker 1: I've told anybody that would listen, and you are one

723
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: of the one of the all time grades. I'm not

724
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 1: saying that the ball wash you as somebody. You and

725
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: I have a certain affinity for radio that I think

726
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 1: a lot of people in our business maybe don't because

727
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 1: they were either doing TV or you know, they played

728
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 1: a sport or whatever. And you and I grew up

729
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 1: loving radio and having a true passion for it, and

730
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 1: so I have listened to you for a long time

731
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 1: and so to be able to get to meet guys

732
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 1: like you and Tony Bruno and and Mike North and

733
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 1: Andy Firman and Artie Spaniard and Steve Hartman and some

734
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 1: of these legends, and then to be able to get

735
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: to go call you guys friends. Um, it's it's been

736
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 1: pretty awesome, man, And to get to learn from you,

737
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: and you know, you're one of the best to do it.

738
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 1: And I think, uh, you know you you you've set

739
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 1: a mark and sort of set a standard there that

740
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 1: a lot of people it's really really hard to follow.

741
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: But man, it's awesome to to to get to know you.

742
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 1: And you're at my wedding whatever the hell you want

743
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 1: to call that and my listen, great food at the wedding, Joes,

744
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 1: You're very kind. I and everyone I've talked to when

745
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: the news came down. You know, the radio community is

746
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 1: a very tight community and people are like, good a

747
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,919
Speaker 1: radio guy. I mean, that's what you're radio guy Jones.

748
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: This is rare that you know, these these things, as

749
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 1: you said, you know, normally these these jobs go to

750
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:13,879
Speaker 1: big TV people, movie stars, things like that. So I'm

751
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 1: glad it's another radio guy and it and it was

752
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: cool to uh, you know, just like I said, to

753
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 1: be able to study and kind of learn under you

754
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: and everybody else there, and um, just it's it's been

755
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 1: awesome and a lot of people have reached out and

756
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 1: been very very kind. And uh, I know the Ballad militia,

757
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 1: you know, they're they're not. They don't like it. They

758
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 1: basically scared Artie span Your away. Artie Spanier filled in

759
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,760
Speaker 1: for you one time. Artie Spanner is a living legend

760
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 1: and radio. The guys worked at every network. He's been

761
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,760
Speaker 1: doing it for years and years and and they scared

762
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,280
Speaker 1: him away. But I refused to let them scare me away.

763
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 1: I got three Benny Awards, yes, and one of them

764
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,240
Speaker 1: that I one of them that I can't claim because

765
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 1: it may or may not have been me doing somebody's

766
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 1: doubtful gang around the air. But I'm not gonna I'm

767
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 1: going tonight. I've got I've got I've got four Benny Awards.

768
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 1: One of them's got an ast and I can never

769
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 1: tell about. But no, man, you love you. I appreciate

770
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 1: you having me and it's a it's an honor to

771
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 1: be on with you. Awesome thanks jowing us