1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace ditting done. 2 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 2: The star now slammed with brand new claims of sex 3 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 2: abuse and brutality. 4 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 1: This as the Feds are. 5 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:23,319 Speaker 2: Shredding a luxury hotel. Why I'm Nancy Grace, this is 6 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 2: Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us. 7 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:30,479 Speaker 3: Music mogul and rap star Sean Ditty Combs hit with 8 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 3: lawsuit after lawsuit after lawsuit, but attorneys claim no matter 9 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 3: how many suits are filed, Combs is innocent. 10 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 2: Really, After seeing that video of Seawan Comb's aka Ditty 11 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 2: aka Puffy aka puff Daddy, I don't know how many 12 00:00:53,880 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 2: there are. After seeing him dragging Cassie Ventura a hotel, 13 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 2: I think by her hair, I'd have to look at 14 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 2: it again to see if it was her collar or 15 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 2: her hair. 16 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: Innocent? What am I supposed to believe? 17 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 2: All of these people suing him are lying and he 18 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 2: Ditty is the only one telling the truth. I got 19 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 2: a hard time believing that it's coming at it from 20 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 2: all sides. He just lost a one hundred million dollar 21 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 2: default judgment. This as we learn he's selling his mansion. 22 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 2: I think I know why, but there's more. 23 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 4: Listen, Federal prosecutors issued a subpoena against a Miami hotel 24 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 4: as part of a secret grand jury investigation into Sean 25 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 4: Ditty Combs. The hotel in order to turn over all 26 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 4: records regarding Combs and known associate Daphne Joy from two 27 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 4: thousand and eight to present day. The subpoena includes check 28 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 4: in and check out dates, room numbers, guest requests, building 29 00:01:56,520 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 4: information including email addresses and phone numbers, room activity, hotel 30 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 4: surveillance footage, computer IP addresses and logins for guests and 31 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 4: customer identifications, and vehicle details. 32 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: What that was a mouthful? Wait a minute, let's break 33 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:11,679 Speaker 1: that down now. 34 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 2: This as the Danity Kane singer Don Richards is suing 35 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 2: Sean Diddy Combs for sex abuse and brutality, and in 36 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 2: her pleadings, she's also claiming that she saw him punching 37 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 2: and beating not only Cassie Ventura when we know that 38 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 2: because we saw that with our own eyes in the 39 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 2: hotel's surveillance video, but others as well, including the mother 40 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 2: of some of his children, Kim. 41 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 1: Porter and more. What's next? 42 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 2: First, let me address what I'm hearing about the Feds. 43 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: Can I tell you, as I fed for three years. 44 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 2: They didn't put one toe into the courtroom until they 45 00:02:55,360 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 2: had literally rooms full of boxes full of evidence. 46 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 1: I know that. 47 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 2: Let me go straight out to Nima Romani, former federal prosecutor, 48 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 2: turn trial attorney, president of the West Coast Trial Lawyers, 49 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 2: associate association, author of Harvard to hashtag, and also instructor 50 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 2: at Harvard. 51 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: Nima, thank you for being with us. Listen, the FEDS. 52 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 2: Are descending on one hotel in particular. 53 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 1: There may be others knowing the Feds. 54 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 2: There probably are others, but I know about this hotel, 55 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 2: so I can speak freely about it. A Miami hotel 56 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 2: part of a secret Grandeury investigation into Combs. 57 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: Listen to what they want. 58 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 2: Okay, this relates to not only Combs, but known associate 59 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 2: Daphne Joy. He goes all the way back to two 60 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 2: thousand and eight. That's a long way to dig back. 61 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 2: Listen to what they want. Check in, check out dates, 62 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 2: room numbers. I'm sure did He did not check in 63 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 2: under his own name, so he's got to have his 64 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 2: alias or his assistant. 65 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: We've got to get that information. 66 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 2: Guest requests, What did they want? Did they want a 67 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 2: lot of booze? Did they want personal favors from the concierge, 68 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 2: building information to. 69 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: Find out what all they were getting. 70 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 2: Maybe they're trying to corroborate a claim of sex abuse 71 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 2: or brutality, and they're actually getting the room service orders 72 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 2: for that night or day, IP addresses, guest requests, What 73 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:38,239 Speaker 2: guest requests Maybe what if they called for band aids 74 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 2: or bandages or medicine or painkillers. I don't know what 75 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 2: guest requests are they talking about. I'm very interested in 76 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 2: the room service activity, hotel surveillance footage, computer IP addresses 77 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 2: and log ins for guests, customer IDs, even down to 78 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 2: the vehicle information. Go to hotel A lot of times 79 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 2: I'll ask what are you driving with the tag number 80 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 2: and all that. That's a lot of information, Nima, what 81 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 2: is brewing? 82 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: It is, Nancy. 83 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 5: They're looking for really two categories of information. Obviously, you 84 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 5: want that direct evidence if you're a prosecutor. The video 85 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 5: of Ditty beating someone, whether it's Cassie venture, obviously we 86 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 5: all saw that from the Intercontinental here in Los Angeles 87 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 5: where I live. So there's any evidence of that that's 88 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 5: going to be gold. But even evidence that corroborates what 89 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 5: the victims are saying, right, that's what you want to 90 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 5: show that they were there with Diddy on the days 91 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 5: that they alleged that they were physically and sexually abused. 92 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: That's all helpful. 93 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 5: If you're a prosecutor and you know how the FEDS work, Nancy, 94 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 5: you and I work there. They want to make sure 95 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 5: that all their eyes are dotted teaser crossed before they 96 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 5: go to that grandeury, get that indictment, because you know, 97 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 5: in a case like this there's no deal to be 98 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 5: had it He's going to push the case to trial. 99 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 5: So you want to make sure when you arrest him 100 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 5: when he's a rain, that you're ready to go and 101 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 5: you have all the evidence you need to put him 102 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 5: away for life. 103 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 2: Everything you just said is correct, Nima, but I want 104 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 2: to talk about why they want this particular information. 105 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: Everything you said is correct, but you kind of. 106 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 2: Danced around why do they want room service orders? 107 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: Hold on, I'm going to let you percolate on that. 108 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 2: Joining me is Tom Smith, former NYPD detective, and I 109 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 2: love nothing more than going well a few things more. 110 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 2: I would love to go through on the days of 111 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 2: these alleged sex attacks and brutality claims. I want to 112 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 2: find out who's up in that Penthal sweet with Diddy? 113 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 2: What are they smoking, what are they eating? How many 114 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 2: people are there? That's why I want to see the 115 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 2: room service. I want to find out if they ordered 116 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 2: anything from the concierge, if they needed the house doctor. 117 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: I remember when I was on top, I had. 118 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 2: Took a swim in a pool and got a horrible 119 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 2: ear infection, and I had to be in court every day, 120 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 2: and I had the twins with me. 121 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: We had to finally. 122 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 2: Get the house doctor, who showed up three am so 123 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 2: I could go to work at five am. 124 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: It hurts so much. 125 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 2: Long story short, I would love to find out if 126 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 2: the house doctor was called up there and why. There's 127 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 2: just so much I can learn from what the guest 128 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 2: requests were. 129 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: What about it? Help me out, Tom? 130 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a Trevor treasure trove because you're corroborating witness 131 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 6: statements maybe source reporting of what was going on up there. 132 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 6: And like both of you said in the US Attorney's office, 133 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 6: you want a slam dunk. You want every possible piece 134 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 6: of evidence you could get to make sure it's in 135 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 6: front of him. It scares the hell out of him 136 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 6: and they don't go to trial. Now, Well, did he 137 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 6: probably do that, yes, But the way the US Attorney's 138 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 6: Office works, you get every conceivable piece of evidence you 139 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 6: can on every level to make sure these charges stick. 140 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 2: Guys with me and All Star Pound to make sense 141 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 2: of what we are learning right now, let me go 142 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 2: straight out to Crime online dot Com investigative reporter with 143 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 2: the latest on Ditty aka Shawn Combs aka Shawn Puffy 144 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 2: Combs Akapuff Daddy. 145 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: It goes on Sydney Summer. The reason I keep saying 146 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: that is another thing. 147 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 2: I really love is when you are standing before the 148 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 2: jury pool which means sixty to eighty to one hundred 149 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 2: potential grrs, and you read the indictment and you spend 150 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 2: the whole page going through they're aliases before you can 151 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 2: even get to the charges, because most people are thinking, I. 152 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 1: Only have one name, why does he have aliases? 153 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 2: Of course, in the music industry, in the TV industry. 154 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:00,479 Speaker 1: There are a lot of monikers. 155 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 2: That stage names and so forth that said, what's happening 156 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 2: Sidney Sumner. Why do the FEDS want the guest requests, 157 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 2: surveillance footage, vehicle information, check in check out room numbers. 158 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 2: Why do they want all that information for this lox hotel. 159 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 2: Don't you know that hotel is standing on their ear 160 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 2: right now? 161 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:28,079 Speaker 7: Absolutely, Nancy, that hotel is probably panicking, wondering if they 162 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 7: are going to have any culpability themselves. And I just 163 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,439 Speaker 7: wanted to add to your list. One of these new 164 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 7: lawsuits had a new one that I had never heard before. 165 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 7: Did he runs the City? That was a new alias 166 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 7: I had not heard before. 167 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 8: But in terms of. 168 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 7: The evidence that they are looking for from this hotel, 169 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 7: a lot of it makes sense to me. So think 170 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 7: about when you're staying in a hotel. To use the 171 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 7: Wi Fi, you have to log in, you have to 172 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 7: provide some kind. 173 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 8: Of login information to attach to that Wi Fi. 174 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 9: So if any kind of videotaping was going on in 175 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 9: those rooms rooms, I'm thinking that the FEDS are trying 176 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 9: to figure out if that video was uploaded somewhere, if 177 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 9: there's some kind of treasure trove. 178 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 10: Of online storage space that is being used to hide 179 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 10: incriminating materials, That's what I think they're looking for with 180 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 10: those computer, IP addresses, email addresses, all of that digital information. 181 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: Okay, hold on this a moment, Sidney, I hear what 182 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 1: you're saying. 183 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 2: Okay, Nima Romani let's talk about what we know that's 184 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 2: on the subpoena to this lux hotel. Does what Sidney 185 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 2: Sumner just said, does that somehow affect your opinion as 186 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 2: to what the feds are seeking? 187 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 1: We know he took videos. We know he took. 188 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:49,199 Speaker 2: Videos, and we know we had them in his home 189 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 2: and he had them on his yacht. 190 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: I wonder what the video caught. 191 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 2: So why you know when you don't know a horse NeiMa, 192 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,719 Speaker 2: I don't know if you teach at Harvard, look at 193 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 2: the track record. If he videos at home, and he 194 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 2: videos in his yacht, and he videos in all of 195 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 2: his homes, we know the surveillance video. Why would he 196 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 2: do anything differently in this Looks hotel. I wonder if 197 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 2: he was videoing the alleged sex assaults. 198 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 5: Well, we know you videotaped the sex acts because that's 199 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 5: what Cassie Venture said in our first lawsuit in November. 200 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 5: I mean he would videotaper being raped by prostitutes. So 201 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 5: this was Ditty's m O. And in addition everything that 202 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,839 Speaker 5: we talked about, Right, obviously we know Diddy is a 203 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 5: target of the investigation, but you want to identify other perpetrators. 204 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 5: If you're a prosecutor, you're going to wrap them up 205 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 5: into that indictment. Maybe you flip them, maybe you cooperate them. 206 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 5: But whether they're perpetrators or witnesses, you want to identify 207 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 5: everyone who was there because they may be co defendants 208 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 5: or they may be people that are going to testify 209 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 5: in the case against Diddy as well. So we know 210 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 5: that he has a pattern of committing physical and sexual 211 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 5: crimes in these hotels. So I wouldn't be surprised whether 212 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 5: it's La or Miami or anywhere in the world, they 213 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 5: did the same thing at that hotel. 214 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: Don't you know he's got that video recorder. 215 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 2: Go in some of these lux hotel penhouse suites three 216 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 2: to five thousand dollars a night, and you know another 217 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 2: thing I. 218 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: Would be looking at. 219 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,559 Speaker 2: Let's think it through Lynn Shaw joining me a founder 220 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 2: executive director Lynn's Warriors, committed to ending sexual exploitation. Lynn, 221 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 2: another thing, I bet the fans want employee records. You 222 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 2: want to tell me the room service guy didn't look 223 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 2: in the door and keep looking as they shut the door, 224 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 2: What is Diddy doing in there? And what about when 225 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 2: they roll the table in and they set everything up, 226 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 2: they get an eye in in earful. I want to 227 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,439 Speaker 2: know who brought him room service, What if anything did 228 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 2: you see? 229 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 1: Was everybody stone? Did you see drugs? I want to 230 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:07,199 Speaker 1: hear it all. 231 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 2: Plus, as Nima Remini just stated, potential witnesses. There's nothing 232 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 2: the Feds like more than to turn a codefendant against 233 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 2: the defendant. 234 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:20,479 Speaker 1: They're looking for witnesses. 235 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 11: Lamb buckle up, everyone, because here's what I have to 236 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 11: say about this. Sean Comb's puff daddy. P Diddy told 237 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 11: us exactly who he is when he named his company 238 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 11: bad Boy Entertainment. Now, I know we always talk about 239 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 11: you know, we need the proof, but I am here 240 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 11: to say this what makes the most money. I'm going 241 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:42,839 Speaker 11: to blow this up a little bit. It is sex 242 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 11: trafficking and drug trafficking. I'm also throwing into that labor trafficking. 243 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 11: We at the Warriors work with a lot of victims, 244 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 11: survivors that have come up through the rap world, through 245 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 11: the hip hop world. These are women who have don't 246 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 11: even know each other, and they have repeatedly over the 247 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 11: years told us this was part of the culture of 248 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:04,719 Speaker 11: that world. And I want to get back to this. 249 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 11: P Diddy runs the city Because I'm sitting here in 250 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 11: the middle of New York City and for many decades 251 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 11: down the street for me, he had to pass this 252 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 11: big office building, big skyscraper, bad Boy Entertainment, that was 253 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 11: the world headquarters. 254 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: They had one floor in. 255 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 11: The building, and you know what, the building was named 256 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 11: bad Boy Entertainment. So I always wondered, why is there 257 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 11: name splashed all over this. I've always heard whisperings and 258 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 11: rumors being in the entertainment business and media, but again 259 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 11: not having the proof, but so many different people tell 260 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 11: you the same story over and over again. Does P 261 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 11: Diddy run the city? Because we have to remember there 262 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 11: was that case with j Lo where they left his 263 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 11: nightclub and they were throwing guns out of windows or 264 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 11: something like that, and the driver took the fall, so 265 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 11: to speak. 266 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: For all of this. 267 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 11: So he's been around a long time. So I have 268 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 11: to ask everybody what has taken so long? So what 269 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 11: we have to have now is this video evidence. It's 270 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 11: been around, these whispers a long time. I say sex trafficking. 271 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 11: I'm throwing in labor trafficking because the definition is forced 272 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 11: fraud coercion for trafficking. 273 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 3: A twenty twenty three lawsuit from an ex girlfriend opens 274 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 3: a can of worms for disgraced rapper and producer Sean P. 275 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 3: Diddy Combs. Investigators raid combs properties in a shocking sex 276 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 3: trafficking probe. 277 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: And Sean Diddy Combs defaults. 278 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 2: You know how when you're playing softball er baseball in 279 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 2: grammar school and the other team doesn't show up, it's 280 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 2: a default you win same thing. In court, Combs has 281 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 2: a one hundred million dollar judgment leveled against him by default. 282 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: This has many many other claims of sex attacks and 283 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: brutality emerge. Who who and remember? 284 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 2: Regarding all the information they want from that hotel, There 285 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 2: is a known associate named Daphney Joy that is also targeted. 286 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: Why but listen to this? 287 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 12: New lawsuits alleging sexual assault pushed the number of Sean 288 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 12: Diddy Combe's legal battles into double digits. Making the band 289 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 12: contestant Don Richard, the former Danity Kane singer, allegis the 290 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:30,479 Speaker 12: Bad Boys CEO manipulated her to comply with his depraved demands, 291 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 12: promising to advance her career. 292 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 4: Don Richard alleges that, in addition to calling female, making 293 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 4: the band contestants ugly and fat, Combs forced her to 294 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 4: rehearse for forty eight hours straight with no sleep. In 295 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 4: another incident, Comb's scheduled a rehearsal at his home and 296 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 4: refused to put on clothes. Richard says Combs entered her 297 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 4: dressing room while she was naked and touched her inappropriately. 298 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 4: Richard also details a terrifying incident when Comb's locked her 299 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 4: in a car for hours. Richard says she saw kim 300 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 4: porter her face as of Pire Deef Fresh Injuries. Richard 301 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 4: says she saw Combs throw Cassie against a wall choker 302 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 4: several times, throw a hot pan at her, and even 303 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 4: drag Ventua by her hair. When Richard and another bandmate 304 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 4: tell Ventura to leave Combs, Combs threatens to kill them 305 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 4: good gravy. 306 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: I hardly know how to digest all of that. I've 307 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: got to tear it apart. 308 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 2: Joining me renowned analyst Karen Stark, psychologist, renowned on TV 309 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 2: and radio as trauma expert at Karenstark dot com Karen 310 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 2: with a CEA, Karen. 311 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: That's a lot to take in. 312 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 2: It's amazing how people with power, money and prestige believe 313 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 2: they can get away with treating their underlings like crap 314 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 2: technical legal term. Listen to this calling female contestants ugly 315 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 2: and fat, forcing them to rehearse forty eight hours straight. 316 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 2: Locking this one person in a car. I'm talking about 317 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:05,159 Speaker 2: Dawn Richard Star Danny Kane. She was on making the 318 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 2: band if you'll recall, And it goes on and on 319 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 2: and on, and it brings in this woman. Richard brings 320 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 2: in eyewitness testimony regarding seeing one of Sean Combs's. 321 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 1: I guess you'd say wife. 322 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:27,439 Speaker 2: Lovers kim porter with her face having been beaten. Saw 323 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 2: him throw cass e Ventura against a wall choker and 324 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 2: throw a hot pan at her. Then threatens to destroy 325 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 2: these ladies' careers if they sever tize, okay, you take over, Nancy. 326 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:45,640 Speaker 13: He's a narcissistic abuser. This has been going on for years. 327 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:49,120 Speaker 13: It's so good that it's finally coming to light because 328 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 13: he's taking advantage, no doubt about it, of the power. 329 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 13: We have seen this before. This is Harvey Weinstein, this 330 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 13: is Bill Cosby. These are guys who take that path, 331 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 13: abuse the women, do whatever they want and threaten their careers, 332 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 13: and that keeps these women under their thumb because they 333 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 13: need their careers, they need to advance, they want to 334 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 13: and they have no choice but to be under the 335 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 13: domination of these men. 336 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:18,640 Speaker 8: They don't see it any other way. 337 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,919 Speaker 2: Sidney Summer joining me Crime online dot Com investigative reporter. 338 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 2: Exactly who is the quote known associate Daphney Joy and 339 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 2: who is the making the band contestant Dawn Richard. She's 340 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 2: from Danny Kaine, right, Yes. 341 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 8: That's correct. So Daphney Joy is a model an actress. 342 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 7: She has an OnlyFans account that you can subscribe to 343 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 7: for twenty five dollars. 344 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 2: A money a minute. Hold off, when you say a 345 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 2: model slash actress, you mean modeling on only fans? What 346 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 2: kind of model are we talking about? Are we talking 347 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 2: about New York Fashion Week model? Are we talking about 348 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 2: Paris the runways? Are we talking about stripping on OnlyFans model? 349 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 7: I do believe currently it's more stripping on OnlyFans. 350 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 8: I believe she may have been. 351 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 7: Popular on social media for most of this time. I 352 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 7: do not believe she's a runway model. But yeah, and 353 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 7: she has some minor credits and some popular movies. Step 354 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 7: Up in twenty eleven, I had never heard of before 355 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 7: Pirates of the Caribbean on Stranger Tide. She was one 356 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 7: of the Mermaids in that movie. And what we know 357 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 7: of her relationship with Ditty is that they are close. 358 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 7: They have never publicly said we're dating, we're in a relationship, 359 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 7: but they have known each other for several years and 360 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 7: she is frequently on Ditty's Instagram. 361 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 8: They know each other very well. 362 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 1: Don't care, don't care. 363 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 2: You can model on OnlyFans, you can model it New 364 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:48,880 Speaker 2: York Fashion Week. 365 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: I don't care. But what I do care is when 366 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 1: I hear the words known. 367 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:59,719 Speaker 2: Associate, okay, name Romani, former federal prosecutor. 368 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: All the arbor to hashtag. 369 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,880 Speaker 2: When I heard that, here the two words known associate, okay, 370 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 2: my ears, Pricka explain what does it mean to be 371 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 2: a known associate? 372 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: Nothing good? 373 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 8: Well, definitely not good. 374 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 5: And we know that there are allegations that did he 375 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 5: use other women to lure the victims of sex trafficking. 376 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 5: And I'm not saying that Daphkin did that, but she's 377 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 5: allegedly been a victim herself. She's made allegations that she 378 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 5: was raped not by Diddy but by fifty Cent. Obviously, 379 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:33,679 Speaker 5: fifty Cent is doing a documentary about Diddy's alleged abuse 380 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 5: that's going to come out, so There's a lot of 381 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 5: people involved, Nancy. It's not just Diddy. We know that 382 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 5: there were other individuals at his infamous parties, as white parties. 383 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 5: They are going to be wrapped up in this, But 384 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 5: I wouldn't be surprised if there was women involved as 385 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 5: well who lured these victims of the sex trafic. 386 00:21:58,640 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 1: Did he Do It? 387 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 3: Stars and others speak out about their experiences with Combs. 388 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 3: Beloved wrapper Fitty sent claims He's always said something's not right. 389 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 2: Okay, something's not right. That's not helping me. I mean names, addresses, 390 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 2: witness accounts. That's what the feds are doing right now. 391 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 2: You don't hear what they do because they keep it 392 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 2: under wraps until they've got basically a warehouse full of 393 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 2: boxes full of documents that will corroborate eyewitness statements, receipts. 394 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 2: They have a group of snoops, federal snoops, and they 395 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 2: are really good. They will go through every grocery store receipt, 396 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 2: every room service receipt, who carried your room service, every 397 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 2: phone call you may to, whose cell phone, every vehicle 398 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 2: tag number that was at that hotel and probably other 399 00:22:56,280 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 2: hotels that Sean Combs frequented. But we just has heard 400 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 2: Nima Romani speak with some degree of familiarity with Sean 401 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 2: Puffy Combe's white parties, So everybody has to wear white. 402 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 2: Hold on, it's not a party for everybody. 403 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 14: Listen Adria English to dance her at Shawn Combe's annual 404 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 14: white party. She accuses Combs of grooming her for sex trafficking, 405 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 14: forced her to have sex with guests. In her lawsuit, 406 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 14: English says during one party, she was told to wear 407 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 14: a black dress was a signal to others she was 408 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 14: a sex worker. English says she went along with Ditty's 409 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:37,360 Speaker 14: demands out of fear for her safety and future job perspectives. 410 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 14: English says when she broke ties with Combs, he ruined 411 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 14: her career. 412 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 12: English also filed a police report with Miami Beach PD, 413 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,880 Speaker 12: alleging Shawn Combs coerdd her into having sex with three 414 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 12: guests in attendance at his white party. Miami Beach PD 415 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 12: says the investigators will turn the evidence over to federal investigators, 416 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 12: who will decide whether to pursue charges. 417 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 2: You really got to pick this apart and Tom Smith 418 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:08,159 Speaker 2: joining me, former NYPD detective co host gold Shields Podcasts. 419 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 1: Tom asking a woman. 420 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,679 Speaker 2: To wear a little black dress as they are called 421 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 2: to a cocktail party doesn't sound odd, doesn't until you 422 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 2: realize is Sean Puffy Comes's white party he throws. 423 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: Every year is renowned. Not in a good way. Let 424 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: me just say it's. 425 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 2: Infamous, not famous, but infamous, and everyone is instructed to 426 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,120 Speaker 2: I don't think they can even get in if they're 427 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 2: not wearing all white. So by telling this woman to 428 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 2: wear black, that seemingly goes hand in hand, tongue and 429 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 2: groove with her statement that she was told to wear 430 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 2: a black dress to signal others she was a sex worker, 431 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:59,120 Speaker 2: and then goes on to describe being coerced into having 432 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 2: sex with multiple people at the white party. 433 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 1: What about it? You know, Nancy, this is a criminal enterprise. 434 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:06,879 Speaker 8: That's what this is. 435 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 6: It's an organization, and everyone attending that party is in 436 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 6: on it because everyone there is aware of why she's 437 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 6: wearing a black dress. This is known, this is calculated, 438 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 6: and this is a bad, bad guy who has a 439 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,439 Speaker 6: history and all over the place. And this is a 440 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 6: large investigation. You're talking about multiple agencies and multiple states 441 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 6: coming together and doing exactly what you said. The DA, 442 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 6: the US attorneys and investigators going to sit down and 443 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:38,360 Speaker 6: go through what they need to prosecute them. The US 444 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 6: attorneys will say I need this. The investigators will going 445 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,199 Speaker 6: to do it. There's a litany of information that's going 446 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 6: to come out of this through source information, witness statements, 447 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 6: electronic surveillances that have been done. Diddy's in a lot 448 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,199 Speaker 6: of trouble with this, especially that the FEDS are involved. 449 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,880 Speaker 1: Now, well, I say a big red flag. Listen if 450 00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,640 Speaker 1: you listen to inside sources. 451 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 12: Ditty Combs always intended to sell his seventeen thousand square 452 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:07,919 Speaker 12: foot home in La once his three daughters moved out. Some, however, 453 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 12: question the timing of that plan. The current listing for 454 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,919 Speaker 12: the mansion is sixty one point five million dollars, twenty 455 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 12: million more than he purchased it for in twenty fourteen. 456 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 12: The home features ten bedrooms thirteen bathrooms. There is a 457 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 12: wine cellar, a separate catering kitchen, and a theater. The 458 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:30,360 Speaker 12: two story guesthouse has a gym, recording studio and multiple suites. 459 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,959 Speaker 12: Let's not forget the basketball court, spa, and in ground 460 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 12: pool with a waterfall. 461 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 2: Wait a minute, an in ground pool with a waterfall Okay, 462 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 2: as interesting as that might be, I'm actually more concerned 463 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 2: and more interested in any type of room that would 464 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 2: have been used to house video and electronic surveillance equipment. 465 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 2: Sidney Summer joining the investigator reporter. Is this the same 466 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,400 Speaker 2: home that was rated good Gravy? It looks like a hotel, 467 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 2: tell me about it, Sydney. 468 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 7: Absolutely, this is that same home that was rated just 469 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 7: a few months ago. 470 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 8: And remember we saw video from that. 471 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 7: Read and you can see investigators carrying out bags and 472 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 7: boxes and inside rooms that look like they have all 473 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:26,679 Speaker 7: kinds of servers and his Internet capabilities. So absolutely, surveillance 474 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 7: footage was removed from this home. 475 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 8: And that's what a lot of celebrities are saying. 476 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 7: Are keeping other people quiet, possible witnesses, people who are 477 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 7: associated with Diddy, They say, the fear of what's on 478 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 7: that surveillance footage is what's keeping anybody from speaking. 479 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,360 Speaker 8: Out against him or speaking on behalf of him. 480 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 2: So are you telling me, Sydney Summer, that a lot 481 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 2: of his so called friends are keeping their distance because 482 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 2: they're afraid they might pop up on a video with 483 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 2: their pants down. 484 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 8: Absolutely, Nancy, that is what the word is right now. 485 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 7: People are afraid of what behavior was caught on that 486 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:05,400 Speaker 7: surveillance footage. 487 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:10,640 Speaker 3: A troubling trail of lawsuits and sex trafficking allegations left 488 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 3: to the wake of Sean Puffy Comb's federal sex trafficking 489 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:19,439 Speaker 3: pro Diddy now sells his multi million dollar rated home. 490 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 2: And what does Cuba Gooding Junior have to do with 491 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,719 Speaker 2: Sean Puffy Combs and everything that's happening now with the 492 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:35,360 Speaker 2: federal investigation where they're tearing down, shredding the information connected 493 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 2: to a luxury resort hotel well Listen. 494 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 14: Rodney Jones's lawsuit has stalled as attorney Tyrone Blackburn has 495 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 14: not been able to serve Justin Comb's or newly named defendant, 496 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 14: Cuba Gooding Junior. Blackburn has accused Combs's legal team of 497 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 14: trying to run the clock with deceptive behavior to prevent 498 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 14: Justin Combs from being served before the one hundred and 499 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 14: twenty day deadline at which he would be dismissed. As 500 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 14: a defense Cuba Gooding Junior has reportedly been dodging service 501 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 14: attempts as well, refusing to answer the door at his 502 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 14: address on record from his previous criminal sexual assault cases. 503 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 2: Sidey Senator what does Cuba Gooding Junior have to do 504 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 2: with Combs. 505 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:16,719 Speaker 8: So, Nancy. 506 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 7: In an amended version of Rodney Jones' lawsuit, he now 507 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 7: names Cuba Gooding. 508 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 8: Junior as a defendant. 509 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 11: And I believe Jones. 510 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 7: Alleges that at some point Combs put him and Gooding 511 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 7: into a room together and wanted Gooding to get to 512 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 7: know Jones better, and there was some inappropriate touching that happened, 513 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 7: and Jones had to shove Cuba Gooding Junior off of him. 514 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 7: So that is the newest named defendant in Rodney Jones' lawsuit. 515 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 7: So he's having trouble getting Gooding to respond to accept 516 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 7: service of this lawsuit. 517 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 8: He's also having the same problem with Justin Combs. 518 00:29:55,680 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 7: Remember Jones accuses Justin Combs being involved in a shooting 519 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 7: at one of Diddy's recording studios and then says. 520 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 2: Oh wait, this is a mini tentacle creature. Let me 521 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 2: first address Cuba Gooding Junior, who of course maintains his innocence. 522 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 2: Nima Ramani. When I say mini tentacle, think about not 523 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 2: just an octopus with the octo eight legs. Think about 524 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 2: a sea serpent with a myriad of legs, stretch out 525 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 2: to get all of its victims. That's what this criminal 526 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 2: enterprise allegedly is. Now we reportedly have Cuba Gooding Junior 527 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 2: dodging court service. 528 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 8: Well, Nancy said it. 529 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 5: It's a criminal enterprise and when that indictment comes down, 530 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 5: it's going to be a Rico indictment. So there's allegations 531 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 5: of sex trafficking, drug trafficking, guns, and Cuba Gooding engineer 532 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 5: was allegedly at these parties. If you look at the 533 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 5: allegations in these civil laws, its allegedly participated in these 534 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 5: sex acts. That's why he's being sued. 535 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 8: So question is it, Hey. 536 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 2: Being at a party and making out with one of 537 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 2: the other guests does not land you in federal hot 538 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 2: water where you're hiding behind a locked door so you 539 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 2: don't have to accept service. 540 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 1: It's not just going to a party, Nama Romani. 541 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 5: Well, no, it's not just being at the party. The 542 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 5: allegations were that he participated in these acts. That's what 543 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 5: these civil Lawsits just illegal acts. 544 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 2: Not just making out or having sex in the closet 545 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 2: at a party at the White Party, but performing illegal 546 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:50,479 Speaker 2: sex acts, which typically means against someone's consent where they 547 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 2: are forced or coerced to perform a sex act. That's 548 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 2: what we're talking about. And let me reiterate Cuba Gooding 549 00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 2: Junior and sis he's innocent. 550 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 1: H Okay. I'm trying to make sense of this. 551 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 2: Linn Shaw joining me from Linn's Warriors Finding Sexploitation. 552 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 1: Linna Shaw, I want to hear. 553 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 2: Your analysis of parties that are now under the federal microscope. 554 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 11: My analysis, my opinion is this is a sex and 555 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 11: drug trafficking operation. That is what I am calling it. 556 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 11: All of the evidence we know about the reported stories, 557 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 11: the reported you know, the victims survivors that are coming forth, 558 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,959 Speaker 11: and I want to be very careful here. We can 559 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 11: never forget about all of these victims of this big 560 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 11: bully that's been running around terrorizing people, because you know what, 561 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 11: it's mostly vulnerable girls and also some boys, young men 562 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 11: and young women. So we got to keep an eye 563 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 11: on them as well because they come from very vulnerable backgrounds. 564 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 11: And sure, who doesn't want to hang around with you know, 565 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 11: mansions and parties and all that. But let's also say 566 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 11: the white parties, they were also called freak outs, and 567 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 11: we heard there were almost casting calls. We heard, we 568 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 11: heard there were casting calls for anybody who wanted to attend, 569 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 11: will fly you to Miami, will fly you into New York. 570 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 11: We should be looking at all of that. So if 571 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 11: the FEDS have done all of this so far, I 572 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 11: am telling you they are looking at a sex and 573 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 11: drug and weapons investigation. That is my opinion, and that 574 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 11: is where all the money comes from, because, let's face it, 575 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 11: everybody the music business, how do you afford these seventy 576 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 11: dollars seventy million dollar mansions in multiple. 577 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 1: States and all that. 578 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 11: You can't make that kind of money in the music 579 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 11: business anymore. Where does it come from? Again, I repeat 580 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 11: the number one crimes that are making money today, sex trafficking, 581 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 11: human trafficking, the labor trafficking, the drug trafficking, and dealing 582 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 11: in weapons. That's my opinion. That's where they're going. 583 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 2: And the so called White Parties have been going on 584 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 2: for twenty five years now, speaking not only of the 585 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 2: White Party and alleged sex attacks during the White Party. 586 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 1: Also this guy with the one hundred million. 587 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 2: Dollar default judgment against SEMPA, he comes listen, well. 588 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:14,839 Speaker 15: I have a proof of service showing that mister Colmes 589 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 15: was served on July sixth. 590 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 8: Two thousand, and I see is that twenty four? 591 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 6: Yes? 592 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 9: Yeah, looks like at tw twenty. 593 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 15: Four return receipt requested was provided, so there is propper service. 594 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:38,360 Speaker 8: Mister Colmebs has neither appeared nor responded. 595 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 15: To this request, so I'm going to grant your motion. 596 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 16: We did a live one on one visit in our 597 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:51,399 Speaker 16: prison visiting room. There's two meetings within the past two 598 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 16: weeks with mister Colmes on one meeting and then a 599 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 16: financial advisor on the other meeting. 600 00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:58,840 Speaker 8: On mister Colmes behalf. 601 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 16: He made me a financial offer of two point three 602 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 16: million dollars to allow what happened to me to go away, 603 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:05,839 Speaker 16: and he pretty much said yeah. 604 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 6: He says, you know how we get down? 605 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 16: And I said, okay, well I disagree with how you 606 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 16: get down. 607 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 1: You know how we get down? Okay. 608 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 2: Now, according to this guy who just won one hundred 609 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 2: million dollars default judgment, Sean Combs, was just on a 610 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,240 Speaker 2: video conference with him behind bars. 611 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 1: But listen, his lawyers. Combs his lawyers say, hey, I've 612 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 1: never even heard of this guy. Listen. 613 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 4: Comb's attorney denied Cardella Smith's allegations, claiming Comb's never even 614 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 4: heard of Cardella Smith much Less received a lawsuit from him. 615 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 4: The judgment orders Combs to pay Cardella Smith ten million 616 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 4: dollars on a monthly basis beginning October first. The Comb's 617 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 4: attorney accuses Cardella Smith of court fraud. Cardela Smith reportedly 618 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 4: filed a prison visitation record with Combe's name on it 619 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 4: to support his claims. 620 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 1: What row if Combs his name is. 621 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 2: On a prison visitation list and he had a conference 622 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 2: call in one of the visitors rooms about his settlement. 623 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 1: Sidney Sumner, this guy that just got. 624 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 2: One hundred million dollars default claim against Combs, didn't he 625 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:14,279 Speaker 2: say he met Combs as part of hospitality and restaurant viz. 626 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:15,359 Speaker 8: Yes, So it's a. 627 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 7: Very big way of putting that, and we're not entirely 628 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:19,720 Speaker 7: sure what that means. 629 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 8: But Cardello Smith claims he met Combs in the late 630 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:25,400 Speaker 8: nineties in Detroit. 631 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,880 Speaker 7: They attended several parties together, and in nineteen ninety seven 632 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 7: Combs invited multiple beautiful women to a hotel room with 633 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 7: Cardello Smith. They were both having sex performing sex acts 634 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:43,440 Speaker 7: with these women. At one point, Combs offers Cardello Smith 635 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 7: a drink. 636 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,879 Speaker 1: Hours later, Cardello Smith wakes. 637 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 7: Up Combs is having sex with one of the beautiful 638 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:51,959 Speaker 7: women that is in. 639 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 8: This hotel room, and he looks at Cardillo Smith and says, 640 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,920 Speaker 8: I did this to you too. That is what Cardillo. 641 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 7: Smith claims in this lawsuit that he just won this 642 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:06,280 Speaker 7: one hundred million default judgment on Now Combs is denying 643 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,279 Speaker 7: all of this, of course, but that is the. 644 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 8: Claim and as of right now that judgment stands. I 645 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 8: make no excuses. 646 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 1: My behavior on that video is inexcusable. 647 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,280 Speaker 5: I'd take full responsibility from my ashes in that video. 648 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 1: And then there's the murder of Tupac. 649 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 17: Listen, as they were driving west on Flamingo Road near Covalt, 650 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 17: they located the black BMW which was driven by Suge Knight, 651 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 17: and then the passion sheet was Tupac Shakur. And as 652 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,919 Speaker 17: they turned around, they pulled up near the pasture's side 653 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 17: of that vehicle and immediately began shooting at mister Knight 654 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 17: and mister Shakour. 655 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,359 Speaker 4: Shakur has hit four times in the chest. Suge Knight 656 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 4: is grazed in the head by a bullet fragment. Tupac 657 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,960 Speaker 4: Shakur dies six days later. Dwayne Keethy D. Davis claims 658 00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 4: credit for Tupac's murder on bet and in his memory, 659 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,839 Speaker 4: he says Puffy Combs wanted Night and TUPACX heads after 660 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,719 Speaker 4: their disc track hit them up. When Davis offers to 661 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 4: carry out the hits, Combs agrees to pay him one 662 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:10,720 Speaker 4: million dollars. 663 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:16,279 Speaker 2: It's amazing how in all of the money claims that 664 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 2: are floating around one hundred million dollar default judgment this lawsuit, 665 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:25,280 Speaker 2: that's that lawsuit? What about the murder of Tupac Shakur 666 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:32,520 Speaker 2: with me? Renowned trauma experts psychologist Karen Start, Karen, I 667 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 2: want you to watch comes on video. It's so difficult 668 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 2: to reflect on the darkest times in your life. 669 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 11: Sometimes you got to do that. 670 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:51,400 Speaker 6: I was, I mean, I hit rock bottom, but I 671 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:52,480 Speaker 6: made no excuses. 672 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,880 Speaker 8: My behavior on that video is inexcusable. 673 00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 1: I take full responsibility for my ash that video. 674 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,279 Speaker 2: Then you can just march yourself straight to jail if 675 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:09,719 Speaker 2: you take full responsibility. And that video, Combs is responding 676 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:15,240 Speaker 2: to another video where he is saying dragging Cassieve Inurior, 677 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:20,400 Speaker 2: kicking her, kicking her horribly while she's down, dragging her 678 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:25,239 Speaker 2: by her hair through the open hallways the corridors of 679 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 2: a luxury hotel. 680 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,400 Speaker 1: Now if he will do that, and a hallway. 681 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,920 Speaker 2: With Surveille's video staring down at him, what will he 682 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,360 Speaker 2: do behind closed doors? 683 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:39,719 Speaker 1: He's sorry, He's not sorry. He's not sorry he did it. 684 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:43,160 Speaker 1: He's sorry he got caught. 685 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:48,440 Speaker 13: Karen's tarn Absolutely, that's it, Nancy, because there is no way. 686 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 13: First of all, that is so inauthentic to me. I 687 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,800 Speaker 13: don't buy it for a moment. But the only reason 688 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 13: that he is forced to do that is because it 689 00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 13: was a recording. He could not deny it. It was 690 00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:03,960 Speaker 13: very clear that he is a violent man. So I 691 00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 13: really do believe he has no conscience, he's able to 692 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 13: do it all. I don't buy that sad story, do you? 693 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:13,279 Speaker 13: It doesn't look authentic. 694 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:15,479 Speaker 8: He just has to. 695 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 13: Come forward, poor thing, because he got caught. 696 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:25,360 Speaker 2: If you have information on this or any other sex 697 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:31,279 Speaker 2: assault or sex trafficking, please call the National Hotline eight 698 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:37,400 Speaker 2: eight eight three seven three seven eight eight eight repeat 699 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:39,120 Speaker 2: eight eight eight. 700 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 1: Three seven three seven eight eight eight. 701 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,279 Speaker 2: Thank you to all of our guests for being with us, 702 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:49,320 Speaker 2: but especially to you, Nancy Gray, signing off, Goodbye friend,