WEBVTT - Smut w/ Kelly Hu

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<v Speaker 1>Of the Law and Order franchises, SVU is considered especially watchable.

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<v Speaker 2>We are the amateur detectives who kind of investigate the

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<v Speaker 2>vicious felonies these episodes are based on. These are our

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<v Speaker 2>stories done done? Hello, Yay, that's messed up? An SVU podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>I am Lisa and I am Kara, and you guys

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<v Speaker 2>know what we do here.

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<v Speaker 1>Every week we recap a classic episode of Law and

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<v Speaker 1>Order SVU. We take a deep dive into the true

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<v Speaker 1>crime it's based on, and then we interview someone who

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<v Speaker 1>was on the episode, or in the case of last week,

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<v Speaker 1>we interviewed a very talented writer for the show.

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<v Speaker 2>But today we have a really hot guest and I'm excited.

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<v Speaker 1>But hot in all kinds of ways hot and personality,

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<v Speaker 1>hot physically, it's a very hot guest.

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<v Speaker 2>What's going on, Lisa? What's new with you?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I see you every day because now Rosie

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<v Speaker 1>demands it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I really love when Rosie runs into my arms

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<v Speaker 2>and her curls bounce as she says I'm her best friend.

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<v Speaker 2>It really pumps up my mood for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>She told my husband that Lisa was her best friend,

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<v Speaker 1>and I asked her. I said, guess who's coming this

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<v Speaker 1>weekend because my mom is coming to town. She has

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<v Speaker 1>not seen my mom in person since she was a

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<v Speaker 1>non talking baby. And she was like Lisa. I was like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>that wouldn't be a guess what. She comes over like

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<v Speaker 1>every other day. So she's going to be very disappointed

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<v Speaker 1>to meet her grandma if I'm when it's not Lisa.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, I'm sure your grandma will win her over. She's

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<v Speaker 2>bringing a present, That's what I'm sure. Yes, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>Rosie just wants to see my keys.

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<v Speaker 1>Mostly, it's like, and your phone loves your phone, loves

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<v Speaker 1>your phone.

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<v Speaker 2>Your phone's doing a lot of heavy lifting there. What's

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<v Speaker 2>happening over here is I did watch five seasons of

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<v Speaker 2>Top Model, moved right into Laguna Beach, and now I'm

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<v Speaker 2>watching The Hills. Is it two thousand and two? And

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<v Speaker 2>my house it is? I Also, I went to the

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<v Speaker 2>road with our friend Lauren, and she made fun of

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<v Speaker 2>me later, But I did wear a sea through pink

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<v Speaker 2>shirt front that I got from my parents' house from

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<v Speaker 2>my youth, and I busted out my coach fanny pack.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm truly just like I'm in denial delusion. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, but I'm living like I'm Paris Hilton in

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand and ten.

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<v Speaker 1>You're regressing and in a good way, though, is it good?

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<v Speaker 1>Sounds like it's a good way, sounds like a harmless way.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just jealous of these Laguna teens, like I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>live this life of theirs. They're going on dates to

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<v Speaker 2>sushi in junior year. They're just like, No, I went.

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<v Speaker 1>To sushich bonfires, like just casually on a Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 2>I going to Cabo.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, going too, going to Cabo. I went to Kankun

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<v Speaker 1>for my senior spring break and one of our friend's

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<v Speaker 1>moms came with us because like a bunch of people's

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<v Speaker 1>parents won't let us go alone, probably including my own,

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<v Speaker 1>and she got food poisoning like first day and was

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<v Speaker 1>just in bed the whole time. So Dan that stopped

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<v Speaker 1>me from making out at many foam parties and getting

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<v Speaker 1>hammered all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>It's also weird to watch because it's like they all

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<v Speaker 2>are underage and they're fully drinking. No one's stopping them.

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<v Speaker 2>They're all like, we got belligerent last night. I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I love that this had no rules back then. And

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<v Speaker 2>also it's like really fucked up because now we know

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<v Speaker 2>Jason had all these drug problems and you see him

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<v Speaker 2>like kissed chess in front of like LC and you're like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>he's so damn it. He's like my parents will let

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<v Speaker 2>me go to Cabbo and it's like, yeah, you clearly

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<v Speaker 2>have problems, and everyone was just like he's a dick.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, he is going through it. He is fully

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<v Speaker 2>addicted to drugs in high school.

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<v Speaker 1>I also like that they I like how they were

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<v Speaker 1>kind of realistically covered drinking with like the kids going

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<v Speaker 1>to like house parties and just drinking on the beach

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff. Because like then you watch it like Gossip

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<v Speaker 1>Girl where they're just fully going to like martini bars,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're like, you're sixteen, what's happening.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but if you're rich enough and famous enough, you

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<v Speaker 2>can drink in a club at sixteen, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>But they would just be at like hotel bars, like

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<v Speaker 1>they'd be like the Regency drinking a fucking champagne. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't like drinking a champagne cocktail and be like gotta

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<v Speaker 1>go finish my trig homework.

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's just so it was like Gossip Girl always

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<v Speaker 2>drove me nuts, but well, I thought maybe your parents

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<v Speaker 2>own the hotel. But have you seen or read Crazy

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<v Speaker 2>Rich Asians? Saw the movie with you? No? No, I

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<v Speaker 2>actually saw it with my family, and my sister and

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<v Speaker 2>I got into a huge screaming fight in the lobby

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<v Speaker 2>because my dad's phone kept going off and he refused

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<v Speaker 2>to turn it off, and it's like, who the fuck

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<v Speaker 2>is calling you? And then I guess I was too

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<v Speaker 2>mean to him, and my sister and I screamed at

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<v Speaker 2>each other and my whole family ditched me. And I

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<v Speaker 2>had taken Uber to meet my friend's baby and went

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<v Speaker 2>to build a bear and that was that. So I

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<v Speaker 2>remember Crazy Rich Asians very well, and you were out

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<v Speaker 2>there but out of the book. But I love in

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<v Speaker 2>the beginning when like, the London hotel is racist to

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<v Speaker 2>them and didn't want to give them a room, and

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<v Speaker 2>then she just called her husband and he bought the

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<v Speaker 2>hotel and then she was like, yeah, I'm the new

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<v Speaker 2>owner of the hotel. Bitch, what are you gonna do now?

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, how do you heighten the Julia Roberts moment

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<v Speaker 1>from Pretty Woman. That's how you do it, That's how

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<v Speaker 1>you do it. It's like, huge mistake, huge, I own

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<v Speaker 1>the hotel. Now yeah, and now.

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<v Speaker 2>You're fired, you racist pieces shit? Oh god? And what

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<v Speaker 2>else am I doing? I'm looking for gold hoops because

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<v Speaker 2>Emma Chamberlain wears gold hoops. And now I'm buying gold hoops.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's that. How old is she again? She just

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<v Speaker 2>set her twentieth birthday twentieth, Yes, but she's okay. Eveton's

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<v Speaker 2>like spokesperson, and you know, I love Louis Vaton. And

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<v Speaker 2>she also just sold her house in West Hollywood, staying

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<v Speaker 2>in a rental while her new house is getting remodeled.

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<v Speaker 2>So she is twenty. But let's be honest. She's gold

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<v Speaker 2>for twenty. Yeah, she's gold. And I learned from her.

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<v Speaker 2>She's I'm like, oh yeah, parchment paper on the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh now, nutritional yeast on the Brussels sprout's nice, So

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<v Speaker 2>I do learn from her, Like long, same plane, We're

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<v Speaker 2>on the same nutritional yeast. I feel like I've had before.

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<v Speaker 2>It kind of has like a cheesy taste to it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's for vegans. It's yeah, you get nutrition, but it

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<v Speaker 2>tastes cheesy. So I'm gonna try it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think I used it when I was on

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<v Speaker 1>a pre wedding diet at one point, and I went

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<v Speaker 1>vegan for a little while.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen going vegan. I can't. I can't do it. I

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<v Speaker 2>just love cheese too much. I can't. I can't go vegan.

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<v Speaker 2>My cool rich cousins they do vegan Monday through Friday.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh Lisa, speaking of I just am now. I know

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<v Speaker 1>this is like an embarrassing thing to admit. I am

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<v Speaker 1>just getting caught up on season two of Drag Race

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<v Speaker 1>UK and bim Andi does famously walk into the work

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<v Speaker 1>room in a vegan and goes, I'm vegan. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>her jagline when she walks in. I'm loving this cast.

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<v Speaker 1>They are so good. I just I love it. I

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<v Speaker 1>think there's so many. I mean, there's barely any queens

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm like, Okay, get rid of that. Like there's

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<v Speaker 1>a couple that I'm like, I like you, but I

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<v Speaker 1>know you're not moving on very far. But I am

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<v Speaker 1>loving it. If you are a Drag Race fan and

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<v Speaker 1>you haven't fucked with UK yet, get involved.

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<v Speaker 2>I like the first one, but I'm loving the second one.

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<v Speaker 2>Bing bang bong ding dang dong. I'm sorry, that's you mean.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not that far yet. I'm only on episode three.

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<v Speaker 2>But I did hear the cheek, the nerve of the

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<v Speaker 2>gall the gumption and whatever. I love taste so much.

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<v Speaker 2>I love all drag queens, and I love everyone that

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<v Speaker 2>I've gotten into drag race. It's just like it's a

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<v Speaker 2>blessing on us. All.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, we record our intros a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>earlier than our episodes come out. And today is the

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<v Speaker 1>day that California is reopening.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you feel? I have no thought, I have

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<v Speaker 2>no feelings. My husband worked out today at a gym

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<v Speaker 2>without a mask on. Yeah, I'm excited. I mean, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to soul cycle whatever. I don't know. Oh, I

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<v Speaker 2>just got a text from Governor Newsom. That asshole has

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<v Speaker 2>a text me back. Put up one hundred and forty

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<v Speaker 2>million into the probation budget instead of passing real bail reform. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>do I sign the petition? Who I mean? My information

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<v Speaker 2>is so sold all over the internet. I am getting

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<v Speaker 2>texts and messages from everyone and everything, and they don't

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<v Speaker 2>know what to do. I'm getting harassed, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what to say. I'm gonna probably wear my

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<v Speaker 2>mask if a store tells me to, Like, so we

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<v Speaker 2>could just go to target without masks, like I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>My husband said he walked into a coffee bean today

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<v Speaker 2>wearing a mask, and that this old guy goes, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't have to wear your mask anymore, and he

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<v Speaker 2>was like okay, and they were like, yeah, I'm not.

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<v Speaker 2>The guy goes, I'm not going into any businesses that

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<v Speaker 2>make me wear a mask, and Jared goes, I'm happy

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<v Speaker 2>to wear a mask if it makes other people more comfortable,

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<v Speaker 2>and the guy goes, well, that's where we're different. And

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<v Speaker 2>then he started talking about how Fauci's bull ofshit, and

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<v Speaker 2>Jared was like, goodbye, I just hate it because this

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<v Speaker 2>was like years and years, and this was twenty sixteen.

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<v Speaker 2>I was on a flight and a woman next to

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<v Speaker 2>me was like fully masked up everything and it's because

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<v Speaker 2>she had an organ transplant.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>People are just so stupid. And it's like, well I

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<v Speaker 2>and it's like, yeah, some people have immune disorders and

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<v Speaker 2>always have to wear a mask, or someone's going through chemo,

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<v Speaker 2>Like back the fuck off. These people that claim to

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<v Speaker 2>love freedom so much really love telling people what to do.

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<v Speaker 2>And still I'm fuck Texas, fuck everyone, no, except don't

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<v Speaker 2>get me.

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<v Speaker 1>What about the freedom to yeah, as I say, every

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<v Speaker 1>time I have a baby, I feel more and more

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<v Speaker 1>pro choice.

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<v Speaker 2>But oh, I also wanted to say I did some

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<v Speaker 2>shows in San Diego this weekend and there was a

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<v Speaker 2>that's messed up listener in the front row. Oh, shout

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<v Speaker 2>out to the comedy fans. I remember her name is

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<v Speaker 2>Grace and we chatted and this episode just a reminder,

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<v Speaker 2>is coming out on the twenty second, and a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of days later.

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<v Speaker 1>You can catch the one and Only Glitter Cheese in Philadelphia.

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<v Speaker 1>At the punchline, no helium, punchline, No in the punchline,

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<v Speaker 1>at the punchline, what's so funny?

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm already looking at the maps. Where's the hotel,

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<v Speaker 2>where's the club? Where's the soul cycle? And when I

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<v Speaker 2>pulled up the map, the Dave and Busters was already

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<v Speaker 2>glowing like I didn't have to look it up. It remembered,

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<v Speaker 2>It remembered, which is great.

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<v Speaker 1>It's also like, Lisa, did you mean to type Jimmy

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<v Speaker 1>John's that knows you so well?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I can't wait, I'm gonna oh god, I yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I love sandwiches.

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<v Speaker 4>Can I note I've never met anyone more who knows

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<v Speaker 4>who they are than you of like you have your

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<v Speaker 4>exact things that you love and it's amazing. Like if

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<v Speaker 4>you could say, like what Fleasa's favorite food, I would

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<v Speaker 4>know the answer.

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<v Speaker 2>So you said, what's your favorite person? You know? I

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<v Speaker 2>just think it's great. Maybe I talk too much. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>that's the thing. Maybe people should.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're just loud and proud and loyal to

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<v Speaker 1>the things that you like.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we also have to give a shout out. Hannah

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<v Speaker 2>did show up to our garage sale.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I bought four things from one from each person selling.

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<v Speaker 2>I just would like to make clear.

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<v Speaker 1>Which we basically told you you didn't have to pay anything,

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<v Speaker 1>but you still did.

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<v Speaker 2>So thank you for your Venmo. Thank you for that.

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<v Speaker 2>But uh, the garage sale was it a bust? I

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<v Speaker 2>think it was a bust.

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<v Speaker 1>No. I I made I made some money and I

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<v Speaker 1>got you know what for me was like I also

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<v Speaker 1>organized everything so much that I think that the garage

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<v Speaker 1>show was great and I got to spend time with

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<v Speaker 1>you and my friend Lauren.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a good time. But I definitely anytime someone arrived,

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<v Speaker 2>I felt like I'm someone at the Hallmark store, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like staring at them like will you get something right? No,

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<v Speaker 2>one's been in here for a day, is like That's

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<v Speaker 2>how I felt. Where like people would people would be

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<v Speaker 2>like how much for this?

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<v Speaker 1>And I'd be like, uh, four dollars, like everything I

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<v Speaker 1>made so low, and then they when they would not

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<v Speaker 1>buy it, I'd be like, wow, what did you want

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<v Speaker 1>for that? Like a doll Like I don't understand, Like

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<v Speaker 1>every my prices were bargain basement and they were again, yeah, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I sold a basketball and for two dollars and he

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<v Speaker 1>was like okay, like he was blown away.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>At Lisa sold like you sold some spanks and the woman.

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<v Speaker 1>Was like you were like, that's a good deal and

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<v Speaker 1>she was like yeah, like you sold them for way

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<v Speaker 1>too little. I sold new packaged in the box forty

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<v Speaker 1>fifty dollars spanks for three dollars, Like I.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't I don't understand. It's like I have the prices

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<v Speaker 2>of the garage sales I went to as a child,

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<v Speaker 2>like I haven't updated my prices. I'm like a diner

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<v Speaker 2>in a sleepy beach town, Like I just don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what's happening in the outside world. I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 2>also do need to give a shout out to my

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<v Speaker 2>our favorite new show called Hacks because they sent me

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<v Speaker 2>a press box and wow, it was so good. I

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<v Speaker 2>can't wait to wear out my Hack's silk robe. Watch

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<v Speaker 2>out World.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, written and directed by a friends of mine that

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<v Speaker 1>I love, and I love the show and I cannot

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<v Speaker 1>speak more highly about Hacks. I toldal these I was

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<v Speaker 1>like putting off watching the finale for like days because

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't want it to be over. Yeah, Hbo, Max Baby,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody watch it. I need a press box next year.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're not following me, please follow me on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>I need more followers so I can get press boxes.

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<v Speaker 1>I need to hit ten k by this summer. This

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<v Speaker 1>is an important deadline.

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<v Speaker 2>Why should we jump into the to the episode we should?

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<v Speaker 2>We should also say that Oscar is wearing a special

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<v Speaker 2>shirt today. Yes, if you maybe, I'll post it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll post it in the stories when this episode comes out.

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<v Speaker 1>He is wearing a very special Bravo themed thing. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, I'm not even gonna tell you. Go

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<v Speaker 1>to That's messed Up. You have to follow us on

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<v Speaker 1>That's Messed Up on Instagram and then you get to

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<v Speaker 1>see actually you don't even have to follow us Republic,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, go follow and see Oscar's Bravo outfit.

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<v Speaker 2>Also a message to all of you from Oscar, Hulu

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<v Speaker 2>is wrong. We are right.

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<v Speaker 1>We are always double checking what the episode number is.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for those of you that write us and say, actually,

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<v Speaker 1>you have the episode number wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't. Hulu has them wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>Hulu will put like a double episode, they'll put it

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<v Speaker 1>in as one as one numbered episode. And that's not

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<v Speaker 1>the way that, like the fandom works, that's not really

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<v Speaker 1>the way that IMDb works, like, so that is what

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<v Speaker 1>we go with. So if you're watching on Hulu, just

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<v Speaker 1>check the name of the episode so you're not watching

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<v Speaker 1>the wrong episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, choose who you're going to be loyal to us

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<v Speaker 2>or Hulu. It can't be both. The hell has whoo

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<v Speaker 2>ever done for you? Okay, but we love you guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for you know, trying to inform us all the time. Also, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>and listen, I know everyone wants to chat about the

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<v Speaker 2>releasey Kiss. I haven't seen it yet. I told you

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<v Speaker 2>I'm deep into Laguna Beach. I'm living my fantasies. And

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<v Speaker 2>so we'll talk about the Kiss in either two weeks,

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<v Speaker 2>eight weeks next year. I don't know. You have to

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<v Speaker 2>just keep listening to see when Lisa is going to

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<v Speaker 2>drop her opinion about the releasey kiss, I've seen it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm happy. Yeah, I'm going how do you feel? And

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<v Speaker 2>how do you feel?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it was like I don't care about releasi,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was like a little bit of like a

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<v Speaker 1>thrill when you.

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<v Speaker 2>Saw it happen.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you're like, wow, Yeah, now I'm excited. Now

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<v Speaker 1>I'm more interested to see what they where they go

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<v Speaker 1>next season.

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<v Speaker 2>Because to me, it makes me feel like Amanda's worked

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<v Speaker 2>on her issues, realized she deserves a great partner like Carees.

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<v Speaker 2>Carrees put in the work, made his dreams happen, and

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<v Speaker 2>I just can't wait to see what's up.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and his last girlfriend seemed like she was just

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<v Speaker 1>canceling all the time because she was busy being an advocate.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, listen, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, can anyone hit me up on how to make

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<v Speaker 2>sure your period doesn't make you a fucking lunatic every month?

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<v Speaker 2>That would be amazing. Is there any root I can

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<v Speaker 2>chew on? Like? What do I do? Every I just

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<v Speaker 2>I it's like, I know it's my period, but I

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<v Speaker 2>cannot do anything about it. So if you have a potion,

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<v Speaker 2>let me know. All right, I'm just bloated and sad

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<v Speaker 2>over here and would love something that actually.

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<v Speaker 1>Does kind of tie into this episode, because we do

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<v Speaker 1>talk about menstrual sex in this episode. So let's go,

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<v Speaker 1>let's dive right into this week's episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, here we go. I'm so excited. Smut Season ten,

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<v Speaker 2>episode ten. I love this episode. Good, Yeah, it is

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<v Speaker 2>a good one. There's a lot of twists and turns,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, it's a the Neil Barriers. So I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sold to be here. The episode opens up on the

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<v Speaker 2>Horrors of Motherhood Jake, but it's like a woman in

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<v Speaker 2>overhead pushing a stroller. Her son's, you know, walking a

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<v Speaker 2>dog that's giant, and he's not going to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to control the dog, and so the dog starts pulling

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<v Speaker 2>the boy and she's like, ah, So she the stroller

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<v Speaker 2>at the top of a rocky hill. We're at a

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<v Speaker 2>park in New York, and she runs down to go

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<v Speaker 2>chase after her son and the giant dog, and they

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<v Speaker 2>zoom in on the baby with haunting music, and so

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<v Speaker 2>obviously we're like, okay, the baby's about to be kidnapped.

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<v Speaker 2>This sucks. Being a mom is hard. But and so

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<v Speaker 2>the baby starts shrieking and the mom was like, oh no,

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<v Speaker 2>and so she turns around and then the mom sees

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<v Speaker 2>that someone is approaching the baby, and we see like

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<v Speaker 2>a woman in the back and there's like a trench coat,

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<v Speaker 2>and so the mom leaves the other kid and the

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<v Speaker 2>dog and runs up to go to the baby, and

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<v Speaker 2>we see that the woman in the trench coat does

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<v Speaker 2>not want to snatch the baby, hurt the baby. She's

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<v Speaker 2>moving kind of slow, we don't know what's happening. And

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<v Speaker 2>then we see she's an only lingerie underneath. We're like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>that's strange, but you look fucking incredible. Do you have

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<v Speaker 2>the best body I've ever seen in my life? Maybe?

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<v Speaker 2>And then there's blood running down her thighs and she

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<v Speaker 2>falls over against a fence, breathing hard. So that sucks. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I did feel for that mom.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like taking a toddler and a new baby

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<v Speaker 1>and a big ass dog on a walk in New York.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think so. My favorite is when Karen I

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<v Speaker 2>went to Chicago for a friend's bachelorette party, her friend

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<v Speaker 2>who has how many kids? My friend has four kids,

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<v Speaker 2>and took Rosie and took all of them to the aquarium. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>she took them all to the shad Aquarium.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like such a super mom that she was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like, I just want to see if I can

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<v Speaker 1>do it, And she had like coupons and she's like,

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<v Speaker 1>the shed is so expensive. I want to like, but

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<v Speaker 1>I figured out a way that I can get all

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<v Speaker 1>these kids in for like nothing, and I want to

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<v Speaker 1>see if I can do it like and so she

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<v Speaker 1>fucking did it. But I would I would die. And

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<v Speaker 1>they don't have a dog. My friend has a dog

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<v Speaker 1>with like three kids, and the dog's always jumping out

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<v Speaker 1>the window. It's just I could not add a dog

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<v Speaker 1>to my life. But I respect dog. I mean a

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<v Speaker 1>massive dog. I could add a small dog to my life.

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<v Speaker 2>Also shout out to the Shedd aquariumm one of the

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<v Speaker 2>best places on the planet. And so we're now at

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<v Speaker 2>the hospital and we find out that the victim is

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<v Speaker 2>Kelly's son. She was raped and beaten and was found

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<v Speaker 2>walking in Riverside Park. She was wandering around for hours,

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<v Speaker 2>according to the damage on her feet. And this is

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<v Speaker 2>all told to us by a doctor that looks like

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<v Speaker 2>he should be on Baywatch, just like very blonde surfer

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<v Speaker 2>baby Vibes. So Kelly's son is played by Kelly, who

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<v Speaker 2>which must have been nice. You know, Kelly, Kelly, you

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<v Speaker 2>don't have to learn a new name. A beautiful actress.

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<v Speaker 2>And so she wakes up and she starts screaming and

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<v Speaker 2>thrashing about missing a plane. She has to be in

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<v Speaker 2>Korea on Friday, and Benson and Stabler tell her like, hey, baby, girl,

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<v Speaker 2>today is Friday. You were attacked, you were raped, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on? And she says, I don't remember anything,

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<v Speaker 2>so she remembers nothing. Benson and Stabler are trying to

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<v Speaker 2>figure it out, so they're having chats in the hallway.

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<v Speaker 2>They're like, well, what's worse not remembering your attack or

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<v Speaker 2>not being able to forget the attack? Great question, Benson,

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<v Speaker 2>real party starter. Yeah, this should be the new get

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<v Speaker 2>to know you game? Would you rather well? I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know what it is. I think if it's better to

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<v Speaker 2>not remember your attack than to not be able to

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<v Speaker 2>forget it, But that's just my opinion. She says that

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<v Speaker 2>she's a travel writer, and she's like, so tough. How

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<v Speaker 2>did she let this happen. Benson goes, it's not your

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<v Speaker 2>fault and you were drugged. You were probably drugged, that's

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<v Speaker 2>why you don't remember. And Kelly just keeps blaming herself.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm so stupid. I'm so stupid, and Benson,

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<v Speaker 2>you know the classic, it's not your fault, girl, You're

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<v Speaker 2>not stupid for being attacked. So Benson is so good

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<v Speaker 2>at her job. She says, Kelly, stop focusing on what

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<v Speaker 2>you don't remember, and let's get to what you do

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<v Speaker 2>remember and so we can like figure out what happened

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<v Speaker 2>to you. So Kelly remembers packing for her trip to Korea.

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<v Speaker 2>She remembers running errands. She went to Chinatown around noon,

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<v Speaker 2>she ran into a guy named Riley Slate coming out

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<v Speaker 2>of the subway and their friendemies. They both work with

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<v Speaker 2>the same publisher, and Kelly turned him in for lying

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<v Speaker 2>about a book saying he was an Indome when he

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<v Speaker 2>was never in Indonesia. So could the rapist be Riley?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, obviously not. We watch the show enough we

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<v Speaker 2>know that this is not going to be the guy.

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<v Speaker 2>But we go to see Riley slay and it's Ryan

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<v Speaker 2>Dunn from Jackass Bam Margera days. I used to have

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest crush on him. He was my number one

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<v Speaker 2>of the Bam Margera crew. He is sadly not alive

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<v Speaker 2>anymore because of a car crash, and it's really sad,

0:21:28.200 --> 0:21:31.320
<v Speaker 2>but he's amazing. And for those who don't know, he

0:21:31.480 --> 0:21:33.359
<v Speaker 2>was in the first Jackass movie. He's the one that

0:21:33.359 --> 0:21:34.879
<v Speaker 2>put the car up his ass and then went to

0:21:34.920 --> 0:21:37.199
<v Speaker 2>the doctor to get an X ray and was like,

0:21:37.240 --> 0:21:40.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. So that's Ryan Dunne a true hero

0:21:40.720 --> 0:21:44.680
<v Speaker 2>and I loved seeing him, and so Stabler and him

0:21:44.720 --> 0:21:47.800
<v Speaker 2>chit chat. Stabler says, t VO. So that's you know

0:21:48.160 --> 0:21:49.280
<v Speaker 2>very much that place is you?

0:21:49.520 --> 0:21:53.520
<v Speaker 1>If that places you in the very Miranda Hobbs, Yeah,

0:21:53.800 --> 0:21:55.400
<v Speaker 1>very Miranda Hobbs.

0:21:55.440 --> 0:22:00.240
<v Speaker 2>This is season ten, baby TVO is huge. Ryan On

0:22:00.840 --> 0:22:04.480
<v Speaker 2>reveals that Kelly's works as a courier to get free

0:22:04.560 --> 0:22:07.480
<v Speaker 2>round trip tickets to the places she wrote about. So

0:22:07.600 --> 0:22:10.560
<v Speaker 2>the detectives had to a courier agency that Kelly worked at.

0:22:11.080 --> 0:22:16.000
<v Speaker 2>So thank you, Ryan Dunn for some evidence. And you

0:22:16.040 --> 0:22:19.880
<v Speaker 2>know our time stamps happen. And it's Halloween. It's Friday,

0:22:19.880 --> 0:22:23.320
<v Speaker 2>October thirty. First Halloween on a Friday is fun too,

0:22:23.640 --> 0:22:26.440
<v Speaker 2>It's so fun. But like, why isn't there any spiderwebs

0:22:26.520 --> 0:22:28.760
<v Speaker 2>on the set? Why are there no pumpkins? Like there

0:22:28.840 --> 0:22:31.760
<v Speaker 2>was no evidence that it's a holiday at Like, no

0:22:31.800 --> 0:22:33.719
<v Speaker 2>one in a costume, no one with a little pin

0:22:33.840 --> 0:22:37.800
<v Speaker 2>or a sweater. I don't understand, because they're like revealing

0:22:37.920 --> 0:22:40.879
<v Speaker 2>this that it's I just I'm never going to not

0:22:40.920 --> 0:22:45.399
<v Speaker 2>pay attention to this time those things anymore. So the

0:22:45.400 --> 0:22:48.399
<v Speaker 2>boss is more concerned about the package than Kelly. So

0:22:48.440 --> 0:22:50.960
<v Speaker 2>you're like, what an asshole? But then the package is

0:22:51.040 --> 0:22:55.560
<v Speaker 2>seven hundred thousand dollars worth of diamonds. What that's so

0:22:56.160 --> 0:22:58.399
<v Speaker 2>the Chipmunk movie. Remember the Chipmunk movie?

0:22:58.880 --> 0:23:00.440
<v Speaker 1>Now, did you ever watch a Chipmunk movie where the

0:23:00.520 --> 0:23:02.560
<v Speaker 1>Chipmunks and versus the chip beets and they go around

0:23:02.560 --> 0:23:04.439
<v Speaker 1>the world in hot air balloons and they've got these

0:23:04.480 --> 0:23:06.720
<v Speaker 1>they've got to collect these little beanie dolls of themselves.

0:23:06.760 --> 0:23:08.800
<v Speaker 2>But it turns out that the dolls are stuffed with diamonds.

0:23:09.119 --> 0:23:11.520
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, please, if you're a fan of the

0:23:11.600 --> 0:23:13.320
<v Speaker 1>Chipmunk movie, right to me and the DMS.

0:23:13.359 --> 0:23:16.120
<v Speaker 2>I love the Chipmunk movie so much. I like the Chipmunks.

0:23:16.160 --> 0:23:17.800
<v Speaker 1>They're gonna put a story up of it. No, the

0:23:17.840 --> 0:23:20.200
<v Speaker 1>Chipmunk Movie was one of my favorite things ever.

0:23:20.640 --> 0:23:22.399
<v Speaker 2>And this is not the live action. This is a

0:23:22.440 --> 0:23:23.280
<v Speaker 2>car no, no, no no.

0:23:23.400 --> 0:23:25.800
<v Speaker 1>It's a cartoon with the original character and they just

0:23:25.840 --> 0:23:27.159
<v Speaker 1>go all around the world. It was like, how I

0:23:27.240 --> 0:23:30.119
<v Speaker 1>learned about so many places they go to, all these countries, Like,

0:23:30.200 --> 0:23:31.520
<v Speaker 1>I loved it so much.

0:23:31.800 --> 0:23:34.040
<v Speaker 2>That's so cute. Maybe when you show Rosie I'll come over.

0:23:34.200 --> 0:23:37.919
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, okay, So that's a twist, right. The

0:23:37.960 --> 0:23:41.160
<v Speaker 2>diamonds are a twist. Did someone fuck with Kelly to

0:23:41.200 --> 0:23:43.240
<v Speaker 2>like rob her of these diamonds? Who knew that she

0:23:43.320 --> 0:23:47.800
<v Speaker 2>had these diamonds? Benson is with Kelly, come on, he

0:23:47.960 --> 0:23:51.920
<v Speaker 2>should have told me this information. And Kelly really can't

0:23:51.960 --> 0:23:54.120
<v Speaker 2>believe she doesn't have the diamonds, and she's really scared

0:23:54.119 --> 0:23:55.560
<v Speaker 2>and she's like, how am I going to replace it?

0:23:55.760 --> 0:23:58.840
<v Speaker 2>Benson says it's okay, insurance will cover it, but like,

0:23:58.920 --> 0:24:01.600
<v Speaker 2>let's start over and tell me everything so we can

0:24:01.600 --> 0:24:04.879
<v Speaker 2>find out what happened to you. So Kelly now remembers

0:24:05.119 --> 0:24:07.479
<v Speaker 2>going into a car going to the airport. She had

0:24:07.520 --> 0:24:10.080
<v Speaker 2>a boarding pass, but doesn't remember if she made it

0:24:10.080 --> 0:24:13.359
<v Speaker 2>past security or not. So we're with Taru. We're with

0:24:13.440 --> 0:24:16.520
<v Speaker 2>Reuben Morales and he's back at the precinct going through

0:24:16.600 --> 0:24:21.199
<v Speaker 2>video footage from the airport. So they see her go

0:24:21.280 --> 0:24:22.959
<v Speaker 2>to the gate and then she goes to the layover

0:24:23.080 --> 0:24:25.800
<v Speaker 2>lounge and she's in the bar and she's getting cozy

0:24:25.800 --> 0:24:28.440
<v Speaker 2>with the dude at the bar. They're chit chatting and

0:24:28.520 --> 0:24:31.840
<v Speaker 2>you can tell he's making some moves and so her

0:24:31.920 --> 0:24:34.280
<v Speaker 2>purse falls and she bends down to grab it, and

0:24:34.359 --> 0:24:36.439
<v Speaker 2>in that moment they can see that he's going to

0:24:36.480 --> 0:24:39.399
<v Speaker 2>go drug her drink, but like a server with a

0:24:39.440 --> 0:24:42.840
<v Speaker 2>tray walks past and blocks the camera angle, so we

0:24:42.920 --> 0:24:44.280
<v Speaker 2>can't see drugged.

0:24:44.320 --> 0:24:47.080
<v Speaker 1>There are barely servers at the airport anyway, go on.

0:24:47.520 --> 0:24:50.800
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, it was like a giant tray. Yeah, it

0:24:50.840 --> 0:24:54.800
<v Speaker 2>was a really big tray. So she finishes her drink

0:24:54.880 --> 0:24:58.760
<v Speaker 2>and she's not stumbling, so it's not GHB or anything,

0:24:59.119 --> 0:25:01.600
<v Speaker 2>and it doesn't look like he's forcing the situation. But

0:25:01.680 --> 0:25:04.240
<v Speaker 2>she leaves with him, gets in a cab after checking

0:25:04.280 --> 0:25:07.600
<v Speaker 2>a bag, and so what is going on? And she

0:25:07.960 --> 0:25:11.439
<v Speaker 2>just leaves with him. So they're going to use the

0:25:11.440 --> 0:25:13.919
<v Speaker 2>trip records from the cab company to see where he

0:25:14.000 --> 0:25:16.280
<v Speaker 2>took her. And they end up at the residence of

0:25:16.320 --> 0:25:19.440
<v Speaker 2>a man named Eric Lutz. And it is still Halloween.

0:25:22.200 --> 0:25:25.199
<v Speaker 1>Still no one is respecting the holiday of Halloween and

0:25:25.240 --> 0:25:26.520
<v Speaker 1>no one is celebrating it.

0:25:27.960 --> 0:25:30.760
<v Speaker 2>A massus is leaving the house of a nice ass

0:25:30.800 --> 0:25:33.760
<v Speaker 2>brown stone on the Upper West Side and the guy,

0:25:34.160 --> 0:25:37.720
<v Speaker 2>Eric has an unbuttoned purple dress shirt and his hair

0:25:37.880 --> 0:25:42.199
<v Speaker 2>is like douche. She but it's like, I don't know

0:25:42.240 --> 0:25:44.520
<v Speaker 2>how to describe it, but you could tell it's a douche.

0:25:45.520 --> 0:25:47.960
<v Speaker 2>So they go in and they try to figure out

0:25:48.000 --> 0:25:51.480
<v Speaker 2>what happened, and he's really kind of playing it. He's

0:25:51.520 --> 0:25:54.360
<v Speaker 2>playing it cool. He's like, yeah, I mean I met

0:25:54.359 --> 0:25:56.719
<v Speaker 2>a hot girl. Why would I say no, we had

0:25:56.760 --> 0:25:59.200
<v Speaker 2>a great time. Nothing's happening. They're having a back and

0:25:59.240 --> 0:26:02.439
<v Speaker 2>forth until he finally feels threatened enough to say, you know,

0:26:02.480 --> 0:26:05.000
<v Speaker 2>I can call a lawyer. And Stabler's really funny here

0:26:05.040 --> 0:26:09.280
<v Speaker 2>and he's like, nah, don't do it. And then they

0:26:09.320 --> 0:26:12.240
<v Speaker 2>find Kelly's bag in the house and they look through

0:26:12.240 --> 0:26:14.280
<v Speaker 2>it and they find all of these diamonds, and so

0:26:14.320 --> 0:26:16.920
<v Speaker 2>they let him know, like, hey, bro, you shouldn't just

0:26:17.000 --> 0:26:20.520
<v Speaker 2>leave all these diamonds lying around. And so I thought

0:26:20.520 --> 0:26:22.400
<v Speaker 2>that was cool, But would you have stolen the diamonds?

0:26:22.400 --> 0:26:25.440
<v Speaker 2>Probably I would have stolen the diamonds. So we're at

0:26:25.440 --> 0:26:29.120
<v Speaker 2>the precinct and it's Kara's favorite Da Graylick and she's

0:26:31.160 --> 0:26:33.840
<v Speaker 2>and she's with Stabler and Benson and they're looking at

0:26:33.880 --> 0:26:37.360
<v Speaker 2>the diamonds and Kim is doing like the bad guy

0:26:37.400 --> 0:26:39.600
<v Speaker 2>at it of like maybe she's in on the robbery,

0:26:39.720 --> 0:26:42.480
<v Speaker 2>maybe she left them on purpose. There's no evidence of

0:26:42.520 --> 0:26:45.200
<v Speaker 2>the rape, and Benson is just like, you're a dumb bitch,

0:26:45.200 --> 0:26:50.760
<v Speaker 2>shut up, like stop thinking like a lawyer. Elliott gets

0:26:50.800 --> 0:26:53.280
<v Speaker 2>a phone call that there's no evidence of drugs in

0:26:53.320 --> 0:26:56.440
<v Speaker 2>her system and it's a clear talk screen and Benson

0:26:56.560 --> 0:26:58.480
<v Speaker 2>just knows that this guy raped her. She is a

0:26:58.480 --> 0:27:01.600
<v Speaker 2>professional and she knows something is up. And Kim says,

0:27:01.600 --> 0:27:04.440
<v Speaker 2>but why doesn't she remember if something happens. So they

0:27:04.480 --> 0:27:07.159
<v Speaker 2>really have to like figure out what is happening. So

0:27:07.200 --> 0:27:09.320
<v Speaker 2>they go back to the hospital to show Kelly the

0:27:09.320 --> 0:27:11.360
<v Speaker 2>footage from the airport to see if that would jog

0:27:11.400 --> 0:27:14.440
<v Speaker 2>her memory. And as they arrive, the fucking guy, Eric

0:27:14.520 --> 0:27:17.679
<v Speaker 2>Lutz is they're visiting her. Holy shit. So Benson and

0:27:17.680 --> 0:27:19.560
<v Speaker 2>Stable are pissed and they say get out of here.

0:27:19.640 --> 0:27:23.359
<v Speaker 2>Kelly says, wait, who are you? And Eric said that

0:27:24.119 --> 0:27:27.719
<v Speaker 2>Eric told security that it's her boyfriend. Kelly goes, I

0:27:27.760 --> 0:27:31.240
<v Speaker 2>don't know you. And then finally like she figures out

0:27:31.840 --> 0:27:34.480
<v Speaker 2>who this man is. He's like, well, you don't remember me, baby,

0:27:34.520 --> 0:27:37.679
<v Speaker 2>and it clicks and Kelly's like, holy shit, you raped me.

0:27:37.800 --> 0:27:40.200
<v Speaker 2>She starts screaming and she throws a vase of flowers

0:27:40.240 --> 0:27:44.240
<v Speaker 2>at him and they like crash everywhere. So Stable is

0:27:44.240 --> 0:27:46.919
<v Speaker 2>now in the interrogation room with Eric and Benson is

0:27:46.960 --> 0:27:49.679
<v Speaker 2>still at the hospital with Kelly. So it's like, I

0:27:49.720 --> 0:27:52.280
<v Speaker 2>love when they do these orthodox jew gender role splits,

0:27:52.359 --> 0:27:54.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, the boys go chat and the girls go chat.

0:27:55.800 --> 0:28:01.280
<v Speaker 2>Feels like Russiashana at North. So she says she would

0:28:01.280 --> 0:28:05.160
<v Speaker 2>never leave with a strange man, and he says, yeah,

0:28:05.200 --> 0:28:07.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I was surprised too, but I'm not going

0:28:07.800 --> 0:28:10.640
<v Speaker 2>to turn down to bang a hottie. Ice t comes

0:28:10.640 --> 0:28:13.479
<v Speaker 2>in with some scoop and says that there's blood that

0:28:13.520 --> 0:28:17.679
<v Speaker 2>matches Kelly's on the bed sheets. He says it's it

0:28:17.800 --> 0:28:19.640
<v Speaker 2>was her time of the month. I'm not a deal

0:28:19.680 --> 0:28:21.320
<v Speaker 2>breaker for him, so he is a little bit of

0:28:21.320 --> 0:28:26.200
<v Speaker 2>a feminist. Then Melinda does confirm that it was menstruation blood,

0:28:26.400 --> 0:28:27.480
<v Speaker 2>so that kind of sucks.

0:28:27.600 --> 0:28:30.520
<v Speaker 1>Can I just like interrupt for one second, Like somebody

0:28:30.560 --> 0:28:33.679
<v Speaker 1>has to be so fucking hot and you have to

0:28:33.720 --> 0:28:36.680
<v Speaker 1>be so excited to hook up with them to leave

0:28:36.760 --> 0:28:37.800
<v Speaker 1>an airport and.

0:28:37.840 --> 0:28:38.600
<v Speaker 2>Miss your flight.

0:28:38.760 --> 0:28:42.440
<v Speaker 1>They're through security, their bags are checked, and they're leaving

0:28:42.480 --> 0:28:43.560
<v Speaker 1>the airport.

0:28:43.320 --> 0:28:44.160
<v Speaker 2>To go have sex.

0:28:45.000 --> 0:28:47.680
<v Speaker 1>You can't find a bathroom or I don't know, like

0:28:47.720 --> 0:28:53.240
<v Speaker 1>it just seems kind of don't you miss have places

0:28:53.240 --> 0:28:54.520
<v Speaker 1>to be I'm so confused.

0:28:54.640 --> 0:28:57.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't care. That's why this is evidence in Benson

0:28:57.200 --> 0:29:00.360
<v Speaker 2>knows right, of course, it is really crazy you would

0:29:00.360 --> 0:29:01.360
<v Speaker 2>exchange numbers.

0:29:01.560 --> 0:29:04.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, him acting like, oh, we just met each other.

0:29:04.560 --> 0:29:07.040
<v Speaker 1>It's like you're not in the East Village, You're at JFK.

0:29:07.360 --> 0:29:09.520
<v Speaker 1>Like you're not going to leave and go like it's

0:29:09.520 --> 0:29:11.120
<v Speaker 1>just not happening. It's not plausible.

0:29:11.520 --> 0:29:13.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you can meet up after your flights, because I

0:29:13.480 --> 0:29:15.800
<v Speaker 2>wonder where his flight was too. Yeah, it's like, give

0:29:15.800 --> 0:29:18.360
<v Speaker 2>me your number, let's bang when we're back in New York. Yeah.

0:29:19.000 --> 0:29:21.200
<v Speaker 2>I thought you were going to go into a period rampage.

0:29:21.200 --> 0:29:23.120
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, well I no, no, no, definitely bled

0:29:23.120 --> 0:29:27.960
<v Speaker 2>on strangers. I have had period times. Yeah, okay. So

0:29:28.080 --> 0:29:31.640
<v Speaker 2>then Melinda saw a lead in the Clues and she

0:29:32.400 --> 0:29:35.400
<v Speaker 2>basically like looks at his flight schedules and he was

0:29:35.440 --> 0:29:38.959
<v Speaker 2>going down to Columbia a bunch, and so she tests

0:29:39.040 --> 0:29:44.040
<v Speaker 2>Kelly's blood for scopolamine and hit the jackpot, and Finn

0:29:44.080 --> 0:29:47.360
<v Speaker 2>knows all about it. He calls it the Colombian Devil's breath.

0:29:47.720 --> 0:29:52.920
<v Speaker 2>It makes people controllable, so you like you're lucid and

0:29:52.960 --> 0:29:55.600
<v Speaker 2>you're doing stuff, but you're very controllable and you can't

0:29:55.640 --> 0:29:58.960
<v Speaker 2>say no, and it blocks memory formation. So it's not

0:29:59.040 --> 0:30:02.640
<v Speaker 2>like she can't recall, but the memory just doesn't exist.

0:30:02.680 --> 0:30:05.600
<v Speaker 2>It was never made. So we jump back to Benson

0:30:05.640 --> 0:30:08.040
<v Speaker 2>and Stable in a team of people searching Eric's house

0:30:08.040 --> 0:30:10.959
<v Speaker 2>trying to find evidence of him purchasing the drug, and

0:30:11.000 --> 0:30:12.920
<v Speaker 2>they have to find something quickly because he's trying to

0:30:12.920 --> 0:30:14.600
<v Speaker 2>get on a flight right now, and Benson's like, we

0:30:14.640 --> 0:30:16.840
<v Speaker 2>cannot let him leave the country. If he leaves the country,

0:30:16.880 --> 0:30:19.720
<v Speaker 2>he will get away with us. And Stabler's going through

0:30:19.720 --> 0:30:23.520
<v Speaker 2>the credit card report and sounds like a good time.

0:30:23.800 --> 0:30:27.400
<v Speaker 2>I am loving his purchases. He's a no boot delicious,

0:30:27.440 --> 0:30:31.240
<v Speaker 2>give me that blackma, so cad He's going to Tiffany's. Okay, yes,

0:30:31.400 --> 0:30:35.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm wearing a Tiffany's bracelet right now. Barney's never been,

0:30:35.200 --> 0:30:38.520
<v Speaker 2>never shopped there, but I would like to. So I

0:30:38.640 --> 0:30:43.040
<v Speaker 2>like this guy. Just off his credit card report. There's

0:30:43.080 --> 0:30:45.040
<v Speaker 2>literally no other reason to like him. He looks like

0:30:45.160 --> 0:30:48.320
<v Speaker 2>such a fucking douche. No, he's the worst person ever,

0:30:48.480 --> 0:30:52.240
<v Speaker 2>But I mean I was like, yeah, okay, shot baby.

0:30:53.880 --> 0:30:58.360
<v Speaker 2>So Ruben Morales is going through his computer hard drive

0:30:58.440 --> 0:31:01.040
<v Speaker 2>and finds a bunch of like rape porn and he

0:31:01.120 --> 0:31:05.160
<v Speaker 2>has over two hundred thousand picks in videos and then

0:31:05.360 --> 0:31:10.040
<v Speaker 2>in an encrypted partition on his hard drive there, which

0:31:10.080 --> 0:31:12.440
<v Speaker 2>is something I say often. This wasn't what they said

0:31:12.440 --> 0:31:15.320
<v Speaker 2>on the show. I actually just use encrypted partition on

0:31:15.360 --> 0:31:19.400
<v Speaker 2>a regular basis. I actually didn't know what partition meant

0:31:19.440 --> 0:31:22.520
<v Speaker 2>until the Beyonce song. Did you You didn't know what

0:31:22.520 --> 0:31:25.400
<v Speaker 2>the word partition meant? No, I had, like after the

0:31:25.440 --> 0:31:27.160
<v Speaker 2>song came out, I go, what is that? And then

0:31:27.200 --> 0:31:33.440
<v Speaker 2>I learned, So Beyonce is great an educator, an educator.

0:31:34.480 --> 0:31:37.360
<v Speaker 2>Oh god, I want to just be I don't even

0:31:37.400 --> 0:31:39.280
<v Speaker 2>need to meet her. I just want to look at

0:31:39.280 --> 0:31:41.800
<v Speaker 2>her what it could be. Second, I just want to

0:31:41.840 --> 0:31:45.560
<v Speaker 2>like have a whiff of perfume go past me or something.

0:31:45.640 --> 0:31:45.840
<v Speaker 5>You know.

0:31:48.280 --> 0:31:50.560
<v Speaker 1>So you were saying on the encrypted partition on his

0:31:50.600 --> 0:31:51.440
<v Speaker 1>hard drive.

0:31:51.600 --> 0:31:54.840
<v Speaker 2>There, Yeah, I just got I got transfixed into thinking

0:31:54.840 --> 0:31:57.680
<v Speaker 2>about Beyonce and I can't get back to the episode.

0:31:58.400 --> 0:32:01.080
<v Speaker 2>So he has a video of him raping and five

0:32:01.280 --> 0:32:03.720
<v Speaker 2>videos total of him attacking other women. So there's four

0:32:03.760 --> 0:32:06.640
<v Speaker 2>other attacks and the videos are really fucked up, and

0:32:06.680 --> 0:32:10.000
<v Speaker 2>they're in a bed and the videos happening from above.

0:32:10.040 --> 0:32:11.920
<v Speaker 2>So I'm assuming like the women didn't know that they

0:32:11.920 --> 0:32:14.640
<v Speaker 2>were being taped, but the attacks are on camera. He

0:32:14.720 --> 0:32:17.719
<v Speaker 2>is a serial rapist. Kelly watches the video of her

0:32:17.800 --> 0:32:19.800
<v Speaker 2>rape and it's really fucked up, and I feel really

0:32:19.800 --> 0:32:23.800
<v Speaker 2>bad for her. So they're back in the interrogation room

0:32:23.800 --> 0:32:26.880
<v Speaker 2>and Stabler is showing the photos two of the rape

0:32:26.960 --> 0:32:30.040
<v Speaker 2>videos to Eric and he's saying that all the women

0:32:30.080 --> 0:32:33.720
<v Speaker 2>consented and wanted it, and then bust down the door.

0:32:34.280 --> 0:32:37.120
<v Speaker 2>Defense attorney at time. We have a blonde bombshell. She

0:32:37.160 --> 0:32:39.160
<v Speaker 2>has like a giant pearl necklace, so we know that

0:32:39.200 --> 0:32:43.280
<v Speaker 2>she's rich. And it's the attorney's name is Hillary Renier.

0:32:43.760 --> 0:32:46.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that is Christine Ebersol, who is kind of

0:32:47.200 --> 0:32:49.480
<v Speaker 1>just like a I think she's a Broadway legend.

0:32:49.480 --> 0:32:52.760
<v Speaker 2>Also, I feel like as well, and I assume she

0:32:52.800 --> 0:32:54.840
<v Speaker 2>was in like eight hundred episodes, but this is the

0:32:54.880 --> 0:32:55.800
<v Speaker 2>only one and only.

0:32:56.040 --> 0:32:58.560
<v Speaker 1>Yes, she's like a Bernadette where it's like, I feel

0:32:58.560 --> 0:33:00.959
<v Speaker 1>like you've been on many views, but you've only been

0:33:01.000 --> 0:33:01.360
<v Speaker 1>on one.

0:33:01.840 --> 0:33:05.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Oh, but she was in Search Party. Yeah, she's

0:33:05.520 --> 0:33:09.000
<v Speaker 2>Porscha's mom. Yeah, so that's exciting because I did just

0:33:09.040 --> 0:33:11.800
<v Speaker 2>watch that and you know, you know the drill, she's

0:33:11.840 --> 0:33:14.000
<v Speaker 2>like stopped talking to my client. Oh yeah, she's won

0:33:14.040 --> 0:33:17.520
<v Speaker 2>too tonys. Sorry, I mean she's won two tonys. Yeah yeah,

0:33:17.640 --> 0:33:20.200
<v Speaker 2>let me Yeah, that's something to interrupt for. Are you

0:33:20.280 --> 0:33:20.680
<v Speaker 2>kidding me?

0:33:20.760 --> 0:33:22.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she's won two Tonys, So she is. I knew

0:33:22.640 --> 0:33:25.400
<v Speaker 1>she was like a Broadway baby. Yeah wow.

0:33:26.400 --> 0:33:30.320
<v Speaker 2>So Hillary Ranier and Kim Gray like run into each

0:33:30.360 --> 0:33:32.120
<v Speaker 2>other in the hallway and they know each other and

0:33:32.160 --> 0:33:35.400
<v Speaker 2>they have kind of like a back and forth, which

0:33:35.560 --> 0:33:39.240
<v Speaker 2>I appreciate. So it's gonna be a real blonde bombshell

0:33:39.480 --> 0:33:43.760
<v Speaker 2>showdown in the courtroom. Kelly is also at the precinct.

0:33:43.840 --> 0:33:46.320
<v Speaker 2>They always love to do it, like they love to

0:33:46.360 --> 0:33:49.920
<v Speaker 2>just put victims and suspects, just running them up. And

0:33:53.480 --> 0:33:55.440
<v Speaker 2>Kelly of course, is like, how are you letting him leave?

0:33:56.040 --> 0:33:58.680
<v Speaker 2>He raped me? And Benson goes, I know, we need

0:33:58.680 --> 0:34:02.480
<v Speaker 2>to build a case, girl. So Kim Grayleck says, we

0:34:02.560 --> 0:34:04.680
<v Speaker 2>need to id the other women off those tapes and

0:34:04.720 --> 0:34:06.880
<v Speaker 2>have them cooperate to take this fucker down, Like one

0:34:06.920 --> 0:34:09.720
<v Speaker 2>of them has to have remembered. So we're watching another

0:34:09.800 --> 0:34:12.120
<v Speaker 2>video of the rape on camera. It's really tough to watch.

0:34:12.160 --> 0:34:14.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm not loving this. The women are screaming. He's making

0:34:14.680 --> 0:34:17.160
<v Speaker 2>them say things like I fucking hate it. And then

0:34:17.239 --> 0:34:20.040
<v Speaker 2>so thank god, Beadwong is there, doctor George Wang, and

0:34:20.120 --> 0:34:22.560
<v Speaker 2>he has some scoop for us, and he gives his thoughts.

0:34:22.600 --> 0:34:25.640
<v Speaker 2>He says, this is a classic serial rapist, deeply insecure

0:34:25.920 --> 0:34:29.560
<v Speaker 2>and rapes women to feel powerful. He depersonalizes them and

0:34:29.640 --> 0:34:32.600
<v Speaker 2>turns them into passive sex objects and then takes control

0:34:32.640 --> 0:34:36.359
<v Speaker 2>in the moment and for the future. So then Kim

0:34:36.400 --> 0:34:38.480
<v Speaker 2>graylic has one of the worst ideas ever uttered on

0:34:38.520 --> 0:34:41.239
<v Speaker 2>this show. She goes, Okay, clean up the footage and

0:34:41.320 --> 0:34:43.480
<v Speaker 2>release the faces to the media, and then we'll get

0:34:43.480 --> 0:34:46.400
<v Speaker 2>IDs for the women. And it's like, are you fucking nuts?

0:34:46.920 --> 0:34:51.719
<v Speaker 2>That's a yeah, that's truly twisted. You're gonna take stills

0:34:51.760 --> 0:34:54.560
<v Speaker 2>of a rape of women and just go, hey, these

0:34:54.600 --> 0:34:56.799
<v Speaker 2>women were rape. Let us know if you know them.

0:34:56.840 --> 0:35:01.880
<v Speaker 2>Are you lose your job? Bitch, lose your job. I

0:35:01.920 --> 0:35:04.319
<v Speaker 2>don't know how Benson Din slapper across the face with

0:35:04.360 --> 0:35:07.520
<v Speaker 2>that idea, honestly, but I see comes in with some

0:35:07.600 --> 0:35:12.440
<v Speaker 2>good news and Morales found embedded time and date stamps,

0:35:12.440 --> 0:35:15.080
<v Speaker 2>So this is really helpful. So they're going to run

0:35:15.120 --> 0:35:18.080
<v Speaker 2>those time and date stamps against his financials to find

0:35:18.080 --> 0:35:23.560
<v Speaker 2>some patterns before. So then before he attacks victim number two,

0:35:23.600 --> 0:35:27.960
<v Speaker 2>he spent eight hundred dollars at a Exquisite Express, which

0:35:28.680 --> 0:35:31.920
<v Speaker 2>is an escort service, and the website is terrible. He's like,

0:35:32.719 --> 0:35:36.200
<v Speaker 2>such a bad looking website. There's like it's gray with

0:35:36.280 --> 0:35:39.279
<v Speaker 2>pink cursive and hearts and you can build your own

0:35:39.360 --> 0:35:41.839
<v Speaker 2>dream girl on the site. So they start putting in

0:35:42.239 --> 0:35:46.680
<v Speaker 2>the information of the victim into the site, and Stabler

0:35:46.840 --> 0:35:49.240
<v Speaker 2>says the cup size was a sea of this woman

0:35:49.320 --> 0:35:52.600
<v Speaker 2>to like plug into this ideal woman maker. And Finn

0:35:52.680 --> 0:35:55.640
<v Speaker 2>moves so fast, like I've never seen him move that fast,

0:35:55.680 --> 0:35:57.760
<v Speaker 2>and he's like it's a d I've got a good eye.

0:35:58.120 --> 0:36:05.960
<v Speaker 2>So and yeah, he knows about titties. So they find

0:36:06.000 --> 0:36:08.600
<v Speaker 2>Denise on the website and it does look like they're victims.

0:36:08.640 --> 0:36:10.880
<v Speaker 2>So they cut to Denise in a red dress waiting

0:36:10.960 --> 0:36:13.879
<v Speaker 2>and a white linen table type restaurant and Stabler comes

0:36:13.880 --> 0:36:16.520
<v Speaker 2>in to get information. The only thing I'm mad at

0:36:16.560 --> 0:36:19.359
<v Speaker 2>is that Stabler is like not undercover sugar Daddy style.

0:36:19.440 --> 0:36:22.359
<v Speaker 1>No, it's very reminiscent of sugar and it's like he's

0:36:22.360 --> 0:36:25.160
<v Speaker 1>not like it's yeah, he's not undercover, but he's it

0:36:25.280 --> 0:36:27.680
<v Speaker 1>feels similar, like the vibe of this combo.

0:36:28.480 --> 0:36:31.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and Denise just says, listen, it's your average siko.

0:36:31.920 --> 0:36:34.280
<v Speaker 2>He's really into the act, you know. No means yes,

0:36:34.480 --> 0:36:36.840
<v Speaker 2>like he liked the forcing stuff. He paid me, but

0:36:36.920 --> 0:36:40.560
<v Speaker 2>he had trouble keeping it up. So the obvious conclusion

0:36:40.640 --> 0:36:43.480
<v Speaker 2>is he needs real rape victims to like get his

0:36:43.520 --> 0:36:46.080
<v Speaker 2>dick hard, because he doesn't. He needs it to be

0:36:46.120 --> 0:36:50.680
<v Speaker 2>more real because he's watched too much porn. So it's

0:36:50.680 --> 0:36:54.759
<v Speaker 2>a real taru heavy episode. Morales is in and out constantly,

0:36:55.320 --> 0:36:58.520
<v Speaker 2>so Eric they can tell through his phone tracing stuff

0:36:58.560 --> 0:37:02.080
<v Speaker 2>that he was in Grand Central with victim one. The

0:37:02.160 --> 0:37:05.279
<v Speaker 2>next victim, he was at the gym a bunch. There's

0:37:05.320 --> 0:37:08.520
<v Speaker 2>a gymid photo that matches the victim's photo and it's

0:37:08.600 --> 0:37:12.080
<v Speaker 2>Laurel Andrews. So they head over to Forest Hills Queen's

0:37:12.239 --> 0:37:14.520
<v Speaker 2>to talk to Laurel. And I just have to.

0:37:14.480 --> 0:37:16.200
<v Speaker 1>Interject here and tell you that I am friends with

0:37:16.239 --> 0:37:17.240
<v Speaker 1>this girl in real life.

0:37:17.440 --> 0:37:19.120
<v Speaker 2>No way, Yeah, we were.

0:37:19.280 --> 0:37:21.479
<v Speaker 1>We took improv together in New York and we are.

0:37:21.840 --> 0:37:24.080
<v Speaker 1>She doesn't live in like New York or la anymore,

0:37:24.080 --> 0:37:26.040
<v Speaker 1>but like we are Facebook friends.

0:37:26.640 --> 0:37:29.560
<v Speaker 2>That's amazing news. She does a great job in this

0:37:29.840 --> 0:37:33.040
<v Speaker 2>she is great. She has no memory of anything and

0:37:33.120 --> 0:37:36.120
<v Speaker 2>says it's impossible and just it's like it didn't happen,

0:37:36.200 --> 0:37:38.040
<v Speaker 2>go fuck yourself. And they're like, we have it on video,

0:37:38.120 --> 0:37:41.040
<v Speaker 2>and she's like a And then the husband comes in,

0:37:41.080 --> 0:37:42.920
<v Speaker 2>and you know, the wives always want to hide shit

0:37:42.920 --> 0:37:46.040
<v Speaker 2>from their husbands, and the kid is there, so the

0:37:46.239 --> 0:37:49.680
<v Speaker 2>husband asks what's up and Stabler I was about to

0:37:49.719 --> 0:37:52.240
<v Speaker 2>try to explain it, and Benson goes we are leaving

0:37:52.360 --> 0:37:55.480
<v Speaker 2>and they both leave and Stabler's like, what the fuck?

0:37:55.480 --> 0:37:57.800
<v Speaker 2>Why did you do that? And Benson, I'm on Benson's

0:37:57.800 --> 0:38:00.880
<v Speaker 2>side this whole time, says this woman has no idea

0:38:01.040 --> 0:38:03.359
<v Speaker 2>she was attacked, Like if we do this to her,

0:38:03.440 --> 0:38:05.759
<v Speaker 2>we are giving all these memories. Like as of now,

0:38:05.800 --> 0:38:07.879
<v Speaker 2>she is not a victim. I know if we play

0:38:07.880 --> 0:38:09.759
<v Speaker 2>her the video, she will be a victim, like why

0:38:09.800 --> 0:38:12.799
<v Speaker 2>were you so fast and loose? Stabler? So there are

0:38:13.000 --> 0:38:15.560
<v Speaker 2>just like lying and Stabler's like yeah, but if we

0:38:15.600 --> 0:38:17.880
<v Speaker 2>don't figure this out, like he will get away with

0:38:17.880 --> 0:38:20.480
<v Speaker 2>it and rape again. So they have to now try

0:38:20.520 --> 0:38:24.000
<v Speaker 2>to find victim number four. And according to the phone,

0:38:24.200 --> 0:38:27.320
<v Speaker 2>it's something like something to do with the Norman Dy hotel.

0:38:28.160 --> 0:38:32.240
<v Speaker 2>Grayle and Stabler want to ruin Laurel's life, and Benson

0:38:32.280 --> 0:38:34.680
<v Speaker 2>wants to protect Laurel and then just get a detail

0:38:34.680 --> 0:38:36.520
<v Speaker 2>on Eric to make sure he doesn't hurt anyone and

0:38:36.560 --> 0:38:40.480
<v Speaker 2>like follow him. Stabler behind Benson in everyone's back, goes

0:38:40.520 --> 0:38:43.360
<v Speaker 2>to Laurel's house. Her husband answers the door and he

0:38:43.520 --> 0:38:46.719
<v Speaker 2>legit is like, your wife's attacked, and I'm going to

0:38:46.760 --> 0:38:48.840
<v Speaker 2>show you the video, and just shows the husband the video.

0:38:49.719 --> 0:38:54.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm like livid, Ugh, it's really bad Elliot moves. It's

0:38:54.760 --> 0:38:55.319
<v Speaker 2>really bad.

0:38:55.719 --> 0:38:58.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm in the top ten list of fucked up Elliott Moves.

0:38:58.680 --> 0:39:01.279
<v Speaker 2>I feel like this is up there. Yeah, because now

0:39:01.360 --> 0:39:03.560
<v Speaker 2>it's not even like you're even dealing with Laurel. You're

0:39:03.600 --> 0:39:07.560
<v Speaker 2>like straight up breaking all the rules and just going

0:39:07.600 --> 0:39:10.400
<v Speaker 2>and showing a video of this man's wife being raped

0:39:10.440 --> 0:39:12.240
<v Speaker 2>to him, and to show.

0:39:12.040 --> 0:39:14.480
<v Speaker 1>It to him and not her, like I you know,

0:39:14.680 --> 0:39:18.400
<v Speaker 1>like that just he's like, I'll go through the husband's

0:39:18.400 --> 0:39:21.920
<v Speaker 1>because husbands control wives. Like that's basically what his mindset is.

0:39:22.160 --> 0:39:23.840
<v Speaker 1>If I show the husband, he'll help me get to

0:39:23.840 --> 0:39:26.280
<v Speaker 1>the woman. Yeah, his Catholicism is showing.

0:39:26.400 --> 0:39:32.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So Laurel's husband starts to cry, which is understandable,

0:39:33.440 --> 0:39:35.239
<v Speaker 2>and also he's like, why did she lie it to me?

0:39:35.480 --> 0:39:39.680
<v Speaker 2>And it's not about you get over yourself, okay. So

0:39:39.760 --> 0:39:42.920
<v Speaker 2>Laura walks in, sees the video on the laptop screen says, oh, no,

0:39:43.000 --> 0:39:46.360
<v Speaker 2>it's me, and it's just I'm pissed. So then we

0:39:46.400 --> 0:39:49.239
<v Speaker 2>cut to Benson walking into the precinct and she's so

0:39:49.360 --> 0:39:51.279
<v Speaker 2>mad you could tell her hair is swinging back and

0:39:51.320 --> 0:39:54.920
<v Speaker 2>forth as she walks, and she lets Elliott fucking have it.

0:39:56.200 --> 0:39:59.160
<v Speaker 2>So Benson goes to Queens to talk to Laurel, and

0:39:59.239 --> 0:40:02.080
<v Speaker 2>Laurel is what really teary eyed, looking into the distance

0:40:02.120 --> 0:40:05.160
<v Speaker 2>and holding her sweater clothes, and Benson let her know

0:40:05.280 --> 0:40:07.279
<v Speaker 2>that she was assaulted a few months ago while she

0:40:07.360 --> 0:40:10.000
<v Speaker 2>was undercover and is being very vulnerable with Laurel and

0:40:10.040 --> 0:40:14.279
<v Speaker 2>trying to connect to her, and she just says, like

0:40:14.360 --> 0:40:17.000
<v Speaker 2>admitting it happen helps, Like we can get him behind bar,

0:40:17.160 --> 0:40:20.000
<v Speaker 2>you'll go to counseling. And Laurel says like, oh, are

0:40:20.040 --> 0:40:21.880
<v Speaker 2>you over it now? And she says I'll never be

0:40:22.000 --> 0:40:23.799
<v Speaker 2>over it, but I can live with it now and

0:40:23.840 --> 0:40:26.719
<v Speaker 2>I can have my life back. It's just sad. It's

0:40:26.760 --> 0:40:29.440
<v Speaker 2>like this woman didn't know anything, and I don't.

0:40:29.200 --> 0:40:31.160
<v Speaker 1>Know, but as we learn, as we get a little farther,

0:40:31.280 --> 0:40:33.600
<v Speaker 1>she sort of had hints like it was sort of

0:40:33.600 --> 0:40:35.360
<v Speaker 1>like almost like a dream in her mind.

0:40:36.120 --> 0:40:38.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know. Yeah, so it's probably is good to

0:40:38.920 --> 0:40:42.200
<v Speaker 2>get some closure on that. I don't know. Laurel says

0:40:42.239 --> 0:40:44.760
<v Speaker 2>she met Eric once at a juice bar at the gym,

0:40:44.840 --> 0:40:47.000
<v Speaker 2>and the next thing she remembers is waking up at

0:40:47.000 --> 0:40:51.520
<v Speaker 2>home with sore legs and like bruises. So Benson says Laurel, like,

0:40:51.560 --> 0:40:54.000
<v Speaker 2>you're going to need to testify girl, and then he'll

0:40:54.040 --> 0:40:55.640
<v Speaker 2>go to prison, and this is the only way to

0:40:55.640 --> 0:40:58.800
<v Speaker 2>stop him. And she does agree to that. But of course,

0:40:58.920 --> 0:41:02.040
<v Speaker 2>as avid SV watchers, we know something will be fucked up.

0:41:02.200 --> 0:41:04.200
<v Speaker 2>There's no way there's not going to be a fuck up.

0:41:05.200 --> 0:41:07.719
<v Speaker 2>So Benson and Stabler go to arrest Eric and they

0:41:07.719 --> 0:41:10.840
<v Speaker 2>read him iss, Miranda writes, and we're now in court

0:41:10.880 --> 0:41:15.520
<v Speaker 2>and he pleads non guilty, and now he he pleads

0:41:15.640 --> 0:41:19.200
<v Speaker 2>not gainst. He pleads not guilty for mental disease or

0:41:19.239 --> 0:41:22.840
<v Speaker 2>insanity as his defense as because of his porn addiction

0:41:23.320 --> 0:41:26.120
<v Speaker 2>and thousands of hours of rape, porn fucked up his

0:41:26.239 --> 0:41:32.600
<v Speaker 2>mind and it's judge Mornoch baby canon. So we're back

0:41:32.600 --> 0:41:36.799
<v Speaker 2>at the precinct and we're discussing porn and Benson is like,

0:41:36.960 --> 0:41:39.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, so many perps love porn and porn is terrible,

0:41:39.640 --> 0:41:42.880
<v Speaker 2>and Finn's like, I love porn, and Benson's like, after

0:41:43.080 --> 0:41:47.680
<v Speaker 2>everything you see, you go and watch women get degraded,

0:41:47.800 --> 0:41:50.239
<v Speaker 2>and Finn's like, not all women feel the way you do.

0:41:50.640 --> 0:41:56.160
<v Speaker 2>My girl loves watching porn with me. And then Benson says,

0:41:56.200 --> 0:41:58.759
<v Speaker 2>like all this stuff can make Jenna Jamison gag and

0:41:58.760 --> 0:42:01.879
<v Speaker 2>Finn goes, that's hard to do. I love that Finn

0:42:01.960 --> 0:42:03.880
<v Speaker 2>is ahead of his time. I mean, he really is.

0:42:04.400 --> 0:42:08.400
<v Speaker 2>I love Finn more and more every time I do

0:42:08.480 --> 0:42:13.280
<v Speaker 2>a recap and like investigate him. He is so awesome.

0:42:13.640 --> 0:42:20.200
<v Speaker 2>I I'm just happy. Okay. So Finn also starts talking

0:42:20.200 --> 0:42:23.320
<v Speaker 2>about female porn producers and Stabler says, no, that's wrong,

0:42:23.440 --> 0:42:26.320
<v Speaker 2>that's just like women trying to become pimps, and Finn

0:42:26.400 --> 0:42:30.239
<v Speaker 2>again stealing my heart, goes lighten up, choir boy like

0:42:31.480 --> 0:42:35.640
<v Speaker 2>so funny. So we're at trial part sixty seven. It's

0:42:35.719 --> 0:42:39.080
<v Speaker 2>December fifth, and they always say how like all of

0:42:39.080 --> 0:42:41.840
<v Speaker 2>this move's kind of fast. But from Halloween to December.

0:42:41.880 --> 0:42:44.400
<v Speaker 2>That's a couple months that seems realistic. Maybe yes, no

0:42:44.600 --> 0:42:49.799
<v Speaker 2>lawyers dm us. There's a pro on the stand and

0:42:49.880 --> 0:42:52.680
<v Speaker 2>it's like a doctor who researches how porn like fucks

0:42:52.680 --> 0:42:55.400
<v Speaker 2>with your body chemicals. And then of course Graylic is

0:42:55.440 --> 0:42:57.640
<v Speaker 2>going to do her job and discredit this professional and

0:42:57.680 --> 0:42:59.680
<v Speaker 2>cut her off and just be like, you're an idiot.

0:43:00.200 --> 0:43:02.759
<v Speaker 2>But the porn pro says, like, it's like alcoholics. Some

0:43:02.800 --> 0:43:05.840
<v Speaker 2>people can consume alcohol and some people are alcoholics, and

0:43:06.000 --> 0:43:09.080
<v Speaker 2>that's just what it is. Eric takes the stand and

0:43:09.280 --> 0:43:11.520
<v Speaker 2>is telling a sob story about how porn took over

0:43:11.560 --> 0:43:14.759
<v Speaker 2>his life. Kelly, Laurel, and Benson are like sitting in

0:43:14.800 --> 0:43:18.000
<v Speaker 2>the seats, what is it the audience, They're in the

0:43:18.040 --> 0:43:21.040
<v Speaker 2>galley or whatever, the galley the galley, okay, so they're

0:43:21.080 --> 0:43:23.719
<v Speaker 2>like watching it and they look pissed as hell. And

0:43:23.840 --> 0:43:26.520
<v Speaker 2>Grayleck is about to have probably our most famous moment

0:43:26.600 --> 0:43:29.560
<v Speaker 2>during the run of her show. She plays one of

0:43:29.600 --> 0:43:34.120
<v Speaker 2>the videos of the rape of Laurel, and Laurel runs

0:43:34.120 --> 0:43:36.880
<v Speaker 2>out of the courtroom and Benson follows her out and

0:43:37.040 --> 0:43:39.160
<v Speaker 2>Eric keeps asking for it to be turned off, and

0:43:39.200 --> 0:43:42.040
<v Speaker 2>gray Like says, why don't you love it. You love

0:43:42.120 --> 0:43:44.520
<v Speaker 2>the feeling of a woman fighting and trying to get

0:43:44.560 --> 0:43:47.319
<v Speaker 2>away from you, don't you. And Eric screams at her

0:43:47.760 --> 0:43:51.399
<v Speaker 2>and stands up as he screams and he has a boner,

0:43:52.360 --> 0:43:56.840
<v Speaker 2>and Kim says, because that's not an objection you're raising

0:43:57.800 --> 0:44:02.320
<v Speaker 2>he got got. Yeah. Now, this next part, I'm gonna

0:44:02.360 --> 0:44:07.799
<v Speaker 2>say is confusing, unrealistic. I don't understand it. I don't

0:44:07.840 --> 0:44:11.120
<v Speaker 2>get it at all. But I guess they somehow find

0:44:11.280 --> 0:44:15.640
<v Speaker 2>out that Judge Mordock has videos on his computer that

0:44:15.680 --> 0:44:19.240
<v Speaker 2>are just like suggestive, and one is a dolphin humping

0:44:19.280 --> 0:44:22.359
<v Speaker 2>a man on a dock, so his objectivity goes out

0:44:22.400 --> 0:44:27.760
<v Speaker 2>the window because he loves lude jokes. And Graylick is like, fuck,

0:44:28.360 --> 0:44:32.000
<v Speaker 2>we have to like end the trial because if we

0:44:32.080 --> 0:44:34.160
<v Speaker 2>get a verdict and then this comes out and there

0:44:34.160 --> 0:44:36.799
<v Speaker 2>could be a mistrial. Like I don't understand this at all.

0:44:37.000 --> 0:44:39.280
<v Speaker 1>It seems really weird because it's not like they found

0:44:40.239 --> 0:44:43.200
<v Speaker 1>rape porn on his you know computer that would not

0:44:43.280 --> 0:44:46.399
<v Speaker 1>become sympathetic to this person on trial, Like yeah, it's

0:44:46.400 --> 0:44:49.960
<v Speaker 1>like a silly dolphin video like where he said he

0:44:50.000 --> 0:44:52.200
<v Speaker 1>didn't even like somebody sent him and he just opened

0:44:52.239 --> 0:44:54.560
<v Speaker 1>it up. I mean, in this case, I always, nine

0:44:54.560 --> 0:44:56.600
<v Speaker 1>times out of ten I don't believe somebody sent me

0:44:56.640 --> 0:44:57.840
<v Speaker 1>something and I just opened it.

0:44:57.880 --> 0:45:00.520
<v Speaker 2>But in this case with Judge Murdock, I kind of believe. Yeah,

0:45:00.520 --> 0:45:03.120
<v Speaker 2>he's old as shit. Barry Rothbart used to have a

0:45:03.120 --> 0:45:05.520
<v Speaker 2>really funny joke about like if you go to the

0:45:05.560 --> 0:45:09.080
<v Speaker 2>police to be like this dolphin raped me, and it's like, okay,

0:45:09.680 --> 0:45:11.480
<v Speaker 2>you want to put him on the stand, take the

0:45:11.480 --> 0:45:13.040
<v Speaker 2>dolphin to jail. What are we gonna do?

0:45:13.480 --> 0:45:17.960
<v Speaker 1>Like we're because dolphins do dolphins are known to rape people.

0:45:18.000 --> 0:45:22.080
<v Speaker 1>But Barry Rothbart has the definitive joke on dolphin rape.

0:45:22.120 --> 0:45:24.799
<v Speaker 2>If you're interested in his stand up. Yeah, and it's

0:45:24.840 --> 0:45:28.319
<v Speaker 2>really really fun. We actually taped our Comedy Central half

0:45:28.320 --> 0:45:35.480
<v Speaker 2>hours together, so yeah, this feels like shoehorned in. I

0:45:35.560 --> 0:45:39.000
<v Speaker 2>just don't care. So basically, like they go to tell

0:45:39.080 --> 0:45:42.240
<v Speaker 2>Mordock this and a law clerk that he fired last

0:45:42.320 --> 0:45:46.040
<v Speaker 2>year is fucking with him and like snuck into his

0:45:46.200 --> 0:45:49.799
<v Speaker 2>server and found it. It wasn't like I don't I

0:45:49.840 --> 0:45:53.359
<v Speaker 2>don't love this part, but basically like he has to

0:45:53.400 --> 0:45:57.600
<v Speaker 2>accuse himself because if the defense gets a hold of this,

0:45:57.719 --> 0:46:00.600
<v Speaker 2>it's grounds for an appeal and so they have to

0:46:00.640 --> 0:46:04.719
<v Speaker 2>do this. So then Laurel barges into the precinct matt

0:46:04.760 --> 0:46:08.520
<v Speaker 2>as Hell, yelling at Benson. Benson turns around and she

0:46:08.680 --> 0:46:15.920
<v Speaker 2>gets slapped in the face. Yeah, Laurel slaps Benson. Probably

0:46:15.960 --> 0:46:17.920
<v Speaker 2>one of the few people that's had the opportunity. I

0:46:17.920 --> 0:46:20.960
<v Speaker 2>should reach out to her and ask her how that was. Yeah,

0:46:21.080 --> 0:46:23.880
<v Speaker 2>so it was amazing. And Benson goes, it was my

0:46:24.040 --> 0:46:27.600
<v Speaker 2>duty to turn in those images, and Laurel says, I'm

0:46:27.600 --> 0:46:31.160
<v Speaker 2>not testifying again. That's not gonna happen. So Benson's in

0:46:31.160 --> 0:46:33.840
<v Speaker 2>a messy ponytail working late, trying to find evidence on

0:46:33.840 --> 0:46:36.640
<v Speaker 2>how to nail this bastard because Laurel doesn't want to

0:46:36.920 --> 0:46:39.160
<v Speaker 2>work again. There's no more trial, like what is going

0:46:39.200 --> 0:46:41.839
<v Speaker 2>to happen? So, you know, I love when they kind

0:46:41.880 --> 0:46:43.640
<v Speaker 2>of look at the same evidence over and over and

0:46:43.640 --> 0:46:46.440
<v Speaker 2>then something clicks. So there's a charge of Tiffany's for

0:46:46.520 --> 0:46:49.359
<v Speaker 2>eighteen thousand dollars a month before the first attack. What

0:46:49.360 --> 0:46:51.479
<v Speaker 2>does this mean? What does this mean? What does this mean?

0:46:51.800 --> 0:46:54.399
<v Speaker 2>And then in the photo from the first victim, they

0:46:54.480 --> 0:46:57.520
<v Speaker 2>see that she has an engagement ring on, so basically

0:46:57.960 --> 0:47:01.480
<v Speaker 2>that's his fiance. That's who you this ring for and

0:47:01.520 --> 0:47:05.520
<v Speaker 2>he his first victim is his fiance. So Benson goes

0:47:05.560 --> 0:47:07.719
<v Speaker 2>and harasses Eric on the street and messes with his

0:47:07.800 --> 0:47:10.239
<v Speaker 2>head and gets him all paranoid and riled up with

0:47:10.280 --> 0:47:12.960
<v Speaker 2>this new evidence of the engagement ring, and he's just

0:47:13.040 --> 0:47:15.120
<v Speaker 2>eating out of the palm of her hand. So then

0:47:15.160 --> 0:47:18.439
<v Speaker 2>Benson climbs into an arm unmarked van and he took

0:47:18.480 --> 0:47:21.360
<v Speaker 2>the bait. Morales is now tracking the phone call he

0:47:21.520 --> 0:47:24.680
<v Speaker 2>is making. And now we cut to Grayleck and Renier

0:47:24.800 --> 0:47:27.279
<v Speaker 2>and Eric in an office fighting about Benson and how

0:47:27.280 --> 0:47:31.800
<v Speaker 2>she's like taunting Eric and how it's not okay, YadA, YadA, YadA.

0:47:31.960 --> 0:47:36.840
<v Speaker 2>Grayleck says, the sidewalk is public and anyone can go there,

0:47:37.239 --> 0:47:41.759
<v Speaker 2>and then these like French glass double doors open and

0:47:41.880 --> 0:47:46.960
<v Speaker 2>in walks his former fiance, Shana Browning. Damn, she is

0:47:47.040 --> 0:47:49.560
<v Speaker 2>dressed like a homeschooled religious kid. Like. She's wearing a

0:47:49.680 --> 0:47:52.440
<v Speaker 2>very long jean skirt, and that is confusing to me.

0:47:53.840 --> 0:47:55.879
<v Speaker 1>I guess you don't want to dress too sexy around

0:47:55.920 --> 0:47:58.719
<v Speaker 1>your ex fiance who sexually assaulted you.

0:47:59.320 --> 0:48:02.920
<v Speaker 2>I just unless unless God's telling you, there's no way

0:48:02.960 --> 0:48:07.160
<v Speaker 2>you're wearing a floor length denim skirt. It's just not.

0:48:08.120 --> 0:48:11.800
<v Speaker 2>It's just not what happens. So the way they found

0:48:11.800 --> 0:48:14.640
<v Speaker 2>her is because Eric called her last night after you know,

0:48:14.680 --> 0:48:17.040
<v Speaker 2>Benson played a little mind game with him, and he

0:48:17.120 --> 0:48:19.120
<v Speaker 2>threatened to kill her if she told police what he

0:48:19.160 --> 0:48:23.239
<v Speaker 2>did to her two years ago. She remembers everything he

0:48:23.320 --> 0:48:26.040
<v Speaker 2>picked here up from Grand's Central station. He proposed on

0:48:26.080 --> 0:48:28.480
<v Speaker 2>the way home, which I think is weird you're proposing

0:48:28.480 --> 0:48:31.239
<v Speaker 2>in a cab okay, but then at his place he

0:48:31.360 --> 0:48:34.240
<v Speaker 2>raped her over and over again. And then Eric loses

0:48:34.280 --> 0:48:37.799
<v Speaker 2>it. It calls her an ungrateful bitch, and then Laurel and

0:48:37.880 --> 0:48:41.000
<v Speaker 2>Kelly walk up behind Shana and it's like this girl

0:48:41.080 --> 0:48:45.719
<v Speaker 2>pop group formation Powerpuff Girls pose and then he says,

0:48:45.760 --> 0:48:49.799
<v Speaker 2>you sluts loved it. So he's caught. Kim says, you're

0:48:49.800 --> 0:48:52.600
<v Speaker 2>getting at least twenty five years in jail, motherfucker, and

0:48:52.640 --> 0:48:54.839
<v Speaker 2>he yells, you'll always remember me. I'm the best thing

0:48:54.840 --> 0:48:57.960
<v Speaker 2>you've ever had. You'll never forget me. As like the

0:48:58.040 --> 0:49:01.680
<v Speaker 2>three women power Water move in the hallway. It's just

0:49:01.760 --> 0:49:05.960
<v Speaker 2>like a sexy strong walk and then it's Dick Wolf.

0:49:06.640 --> 0:49:09.120
<v Speaker 2>So I think that was like a really good episode,

0:49:09.719 --> 0:49:12.880
<v Speaker 2>and I'm scared to know what the crime is gonna

0:49:12.880 --> 0:49:16.360
<v Speaker 2>be well, it's not great, but we're gonna do it.

0:49:16.360 --> 0:49:18.480
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna have some fun. We'll be right back.

0:49:30.800 --> 0:49:35.920
<v Speaker 1>All right, let's jump into this crime. Now, this crime.

0:49:36.040 --> 0:49:39.200
<v Speaker 1>When you look up general lists of like what SVU

0:49:39.239 --> 0:49:41.560
<v Speaker 1>episodes are based on, this one has like a couple

0:49:41.560 --> 0:49:43.480
<v Speaker 1>of different episodes say they're based on this case. But

0:49:43.520 --> 0:49:46.719
<v Speaker 1>I think it's the most strongly tied to this episode,

0:49:46.760 --> 0:49:50.960
<v Speaker 1>So that's what I'm choosing to have it based on.

0:49:51.040 --> 0:49:51.239
<v Speaker 2>Here.

0:49:51.800 --> 0:49:54.960
<v Speaker 1>So this is the case of Andrew Luster, who is

0:49:55.000 --> 0:49:57.400
<v Speaker 1>the son of Henry Luster and Elizabeth Luster and the

0:49:57.440 --> 0:50:02.360
<v Speaker 1>great grandson of Max Factor Senior, who is a cosmetics giant.

0:50:02.680 --> 0:50:05.719
<v Speaker 1>Like if you haven't heard of Max Factor makeup, it's like,

0:50:06.160 --> 0:50:11.560
<v Speaker 1>here's nobody. Yeah, yeah, it's a huge, huge makeup company.

0:50:11.960 --> 0:50:14.719
<v Speaker 1>This guy, Andrew Lester, grew up in Malibu. He was

0:50:14.760 --> 0:50:17.840
<v Speaker 1>the heir to the Max Factor of Fortune. But because

0:50:17.880 --> 0:50:20.080
<v Speaker 1>he was kind of like a beach bomb, he partied,

0:50:20.120 --> 0:50:22.480
<v Speaker 1>He didn't really have ambition. He lived off his trust fund.

0:50:22.760 --> 0:50:26.239
<v Speaker 1>Because of that, his connection with the family wasn't the strongest.

0:50:26.320 --> 0:50:29.040
<v Speaker 1>And I'm sure that the words black sheep were used

0:50:29.080 --> 0:50:30.480
<v Speaker 1>multiple times to describe him.

0:50:30.560 --> 0:50:33.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry if I had a trust fund and didn't

0:50:33.120 --> 0:50:34.480
<v Speaker 2>have to work. I wouldn't be.

0:50:34.440 --> 0:50:39.000
<v Speaker 1>Working, sure, but you would p if you were from

0:50:39.000 --> 0:50:41.400
<v Speaker 1>a huge fan like a Hue, if you stood to

0:50:41.440 --> 0:50:43.759
<v Speaker 1>inherit a huge family fortune.

0:50:43.880 --> 0:50:46.279
<v Speaker 2>You need to at least do quote unquote charity work.

0:50:46.320 --> 0:50:48.640
<v Speaker 1>You need to at least do philanthropy so that they

0:50:48.719 --> 0:50:51.719
<v Speaker 1>feel okay leaving you with like their billions of dollars.

0:50:52.040 --> 0:50:53.600
<v Speaker 2>You know what, I didn't need even need the billions.

0:50:53.600 --> 0:50:55.480
<v Speaker 2>Give it to my sibling. I'll take my trust right

0:50:55.600 --> 0:50:56.200
<v Speaker 2>I am the beach.

0:50:56.360 --> 0:50:58.200
<v Speaker 1>They're not going to let you just like use it

0:50:58.239 --> 0:51:00.759
<v Speaker 1>on Jaegermeister. You know, like I want to know like

0:51:00.800 --> 0:51:03.480
<v Speaker 1>that you're doing. They want to know that you're going

0:51:03.520 --> 0:51:05.120
<v Speaker 1>to be responsible with the money. And I think this

0:51:05.160 --> 0:51:07.160
<v Speaker 1>family knew this guy was not going to, so he

0:51:07.239 --> 0:51:08.920
<v Speaker 1>kind of just does his own thing. He lives like

0:51:09.200 --> 0:51:12.000
<v Speaker 1>in Ventura, which is like an hour or so north

0:51:12.040 --> 0:51:14.040
<v Speaker 1>of LA and kind of just like a beachy town.

0:51:14.640 --> 0:51:18.520
<v Speaker 1>And in two thousand, he is arrested after a college

0:51:18.560 --> 0:51:20.800
<v Speaker 1>student reported that she had been raped at his home.

0:51:21.480 --> 0:51:24.400
<v Speaker 1>Police searched his home and found videotapes of him assaulting

0:51:24.520 --> 0:51:27.319
<v Speaker 1>three women aged sixteen to twenty one who he had

0:51:27.400 --> 0:51:30.719
<v Speaker 1>drugged with GHB, So it's not scapolamine, but I will

0:51:30.719 --> 0:51:31.959
<v Speaker 1>get into scapalamine later.

0:51:32.320 --> 0:51:36.080
<v Speaker 2>It is GHB. Again, these men like.

0:51:36.160 --> 0:51:38.920
<v Speaker 1>Committing these crimes and feeling like they have to tape it,

0:51:39.080 --> 0:51:42.960
<v Speaker 1>like it's so debraved like and it's so arrogant, like

0:51:43.239 --> 0:51:44.640
<v Speaker 1>you're just you.

0:51:44.560 --> 0:51:46.440
<v Speaker 2>Just have to have the tape.

0:51:46.560 --> 0:51:48.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't think he would have gotten caught if he

0:51:48.880 --> 0:51:50.560
<v Speaker 1>didn't have the tapes, because it was it was a

0:51:50.600 --> 0:51:53.719
<v Speaker 1>lot of you know, probably statutal limitations and he said,

0:51:53.719 --> 0:51:56.279
<v Speaker 1>she said lack of evidence, but he just had the

0:51:56.320 --> 0:52:00.440
<v Speaker 1>evidence right there in his home. So the women testify

0:52:00.520 --> 0:52:02.560
<v Speaker 1>that they were unaware of that they were being taped.

0:52:03.000 --> 0:52:06.080
<v Speaker 1>On one tape, Lester says to the camera, that's exactly

0:52:06.080 --> 0:52:08.120
<v Speaker 1>what I like in my room, a passed.

0:52:07.800 --> 0:52:10.760
<v Speaker 2>Out, beautiful girl. So he's a monster.

0:52:11.520 --> 0:52:13.640
<v Speaker 1>So you were talking about how this goes fast, how

0:52:13.680 --> 0:52:15.480
<v Speaker 1>it goes fast in SVU, like it went from like

0:52:15.520 --> 0:52:18.279
<v Speaker 1>Halloween to December. This trial seemed to go a lot

0:52:18.320 --> 0:52:20.520
<v Speaker 1>longer because this happened in two thousand. When he was

0:52:20.600 --> 0:52:23.400
<v Speaker 1>arrested in two thousand and three, after having paid a

0:52:23.400 --> 0:52:25.919
<v Speaker 1>million dollars in bail, he failed to appear in court

0:52:25.960 --> 0:52:29.640
<v Speaker 1>to defend himself. His lawyer Roger, I thought you would

0:52:29.640 --> 0:52:32.400
<v Speaker 1>like this, Lisa. His lawyer's name is Roger John Diamond,

0:52:32.680 --> 0:52:35.160
<v Speaker 1>just like money in the last episode that one of

0:52:35.160 --> 0:52:38.040
<v Speaker 1>our former episodes. These guys just out here with these

0:52:38.120 --> 0:52:42.719
<v Speaker 1>ridiculous names. Diamond said Luster might have been kidnapped or

0:52:42.760 --> 0:52:45.359
<v Speaker 1>seriously injured in an accident, and asked that the trial

0:52:45.440 --> 0:52:48.680
<v Speaker 1>be postponed. It's like, dog, that's not what happened. His

0:52:48.880 --> 0:52:51.799
<v Speaker 1>suv is gone, his dog is gone. Like that's a

0:52:51.800 --> 0:52:53.799
<v Speaker 1>lot to commit to in a kidnapping to like take

0:52:53.840 --> 0:52:56.320
<v Speaker 1>your dog along with you, like as you're getting kidnapped.

0:52:56.360 --> 0:52:58.880
<v Speaker 2>So that's clearly like not what's happening. Okay.

0:52:58.920 --> 0:53:01.520
<v Speaker 1>So at the time, he was on house arrested waiting

0:53:01.520 --> 0:53:04.600
<v Speaker 1>to stand trial on eighty seven criminal counts, and he'd

0:53:04.920 --> 0:53:09.680
<v Speaker 1>including rape, sodomy, and poisoning. And then Diamond tried to

0:53:09.840 --> 0:53:13.799
<v Speaker 1>claim later as part of Lester's defense, that he was

0:53:13.880 --> 0:53:16.760
<v Speaker 1>an aspiring pornography producer and that the women were only

0:53:16.800 --> 0:53:20.160
<v Speaker 1>acting as part of a script and had consented. Of course,

0:53:20.200 --> 0:53:22.160
<v Speaker 1>all the women were like, what are you talking about.

0:53:23.560 --> 0:53:26.640
<v Speaker 1>He was later convicted in absentia and sentenced to one

0:53:26.719 --> 0:53:28.880
<v Speaker 1>hundred and twenty four years in prison. So the trial

0:53:28.920 --> 0:53:32.160
<v Speaker 1>went on even without him did he had a jumped

0:53:32.160 --> 0:53:36.560
<v Speaker 1>bail and the trial continued. His legal case obviously earned

0:53:36.600 --> 0:53:38.880
<v Speaker 1>like huge media attention due to his family's wealth. I

0:53:38.880 --> 0:53:41.120
<v Speaker 1>remember reading about this a little bit, of.

0:53:41.120 --> 0:53:43.200
<v Speaker 2>Course, you do. I just remember this.

0:53:43.280 --> 0:53:46.800
<v Speaker 1>I remember being like wow, Max Factor, like the makeup,

0:53:46.840 --> 0:53:48.759
<v Speaker 1>and then this guy because I hate to say it,

0:53:48.760 --> 0:53:51.920
<v Speaker 1>the guy is kind of like conventionally handsome and like

0:53:51.960 --> 0:53:55.680
<v Speaker 1>looks like a rich boy or whatever, but obviously a monster.

0:53:56.960 --> 0:54:00.560
<v Speaker 1>And now the FBI, after he disappeared, issue to warrant

0:54:00.600 --> 0:54:04.879
<v Speaker 1>for unlawful flight to avoid prosecution. Cut to six months later,

0:54:04.960 --> 0:54:08.480
<v Speaker 1>in June two thousand and three, Luster is arrested in Portavarta,

0:54:09.600 --> 0:54:13.880
<v Speaker 1>as was bounty hunter Dwayne Lee Chapman, better known to

0:54:13.960 --> 0:54:16.320
<v Speaker 1>you and I as Dog of the Bounty Hunter.

0:54:17.000 --> 0:54:20.640
<v Speaker 2>Wow. Yes, this is the crazy twist in this case.

0:54:21.239 --> 0:54:24.600
<v Speaker 1>Dog the Bounty Hunter was after Luster, trying to get him,

0:54:25.000 --> 0:54:27.520
<v Speaker 1>and he was with him and two other guys as

0:54:27.560 --> 0:54:29.480
<v Speaker 1>well as two cameramen who were.

0:54:29.320 --> 0:54:30.480
<v Speaker 2>Filming the entire thing.

0:54:31.080 --> 0:54:33.399
<v Speaker 1>And this was I think before Doug the Bounty Hunter

0:54:33.480 --> 0:54:36.640
<v Speaker 1>had his show and all of his fame, so.

0:54:36.560 --> 0:54:38.600
<v Speaker 2>It was like, this is kind of what led to it.

0:54:40.000 --> 0:54:42.759
<v Speaker 1>Chapman is a bail bondsman who was pursuing Luster with

0:54:42.800 --> 0:54:45.359
<v Speaker 1>a television crew and was arrested for kidnapping. So when

0:54:45.400 --> 0:54:48.080
<v Speaker 1>they caught Luster, they arrested all of the men too.

0:54:48.120 --> 0:54:51.719
<v Speaker 1>They arrested Chapman, his two friends, and the two cameramans.

0:54:51.719 --> 0:54:52.919
<v Speaker 2>They arrested all six of them.

0:54:54.360 --> 0:54:56.640
<v Speaker 1>Dog thought he was doing everything by the book because

0:54:56.680 --> 0:54:59.120
<v Speaker 1>he was working with a Mexican police officer, so he

0:54:59.120 --> 0:55:00.000
<v Speaker 1>thought he wasn't like.

0:55:00.080 --> 0:55:00.840
<v Speaker 2>Doing anything wrong.

0:55:01.920 --> 0:55:05.200
<v Speaker 1>His felony kidnapping charge was eventually reduced to a misdemeanor,

0:55:05.560 --> 0:55:08.120
<v Speaker 1>and his lawyer advised him to flee to Mexico when

0:55:08.160 --> 0:55:12.520
<v Speaker 1>he was released on bail. And then Chapman said he

0:55:13.160 --> 0:55:16.000
<v Speaker 1>said he had consulted with a sex crimes forensic expert

0:55:16.239 --> 0:55:20.080
<v Speaker 1>who believed that Luster's preference for raping unconscious passive victims

0:55:21.160 --> 0:55:23.600
<v Speaker 1>was a possible sign that he might be a necrofile

0:55:24.000 --> 0:55:28.000
<v Speaker 1>and that that could lead to murder. So he was like,

0:55:28.120 --> 0:55:32.160
<v Speaker 1>I was just trying to stop this possible escalation of

0:55:32.200 --> 0:55:34.560
<v Speaker 1>this rapist to murderer, you know, So.

0:55:34.520 --> 0:55:38.520
<v Speaker 2>That's kind of where his head was. Also, question is

0:55:38.560 --> 0:55:40.960
<v Speaker 2>it bad that the lawyer told him to go to Mexico.

0:55:41.280 --> 0:55:44.440
<v Speaker 2>Like that's breaking some law rules, right, I know.

0:55:44.680 --> 0:55:47.560
<v Speaker 1>But also I mean also it's like, client, I don't

0:55:47.560 --> 0:55:49.319
<v Speaker 1>even know how this is in the article that I found.

0:55:49.360 --> 0:55:50.600
<v Speaker 2>It's like, how did you guys even find that out?

0:55:50.640 --> 0:55:51.680
<v Speaker 2>The lawyer offered that to you.

0:55:52.320 --> 0:55:54.840
<v Speaker 1>But eventually what happened was he made bail in Mexico,

0:55:54.920 --> 0:55:58.880
<v Speaker 1>he went home to Honolulu. He was arrested like again

0:55:58.960 --> 0:56:01.640
<v Speaker 1>in Honolulu because he was not supposed to leave Mexico,

0:56:01.680 --> 0:56:04.560
<v Speaker 1>but like no one told him that. And then basically

0:56:04.600 --> 0:56:07.400
<v Speaker 1>the case got dragged out so far that eventually the

0:56:07.440 --> 0:56:10.200
<v Speaker 1>statute of limitations ran out, and like they just dropped

0:56:10.239 --> 0:56:12.680
<v Speaker 1>the whole case. So Dog got off, no problem. I

0:56:12.719 --> 0:56:15.239
<v Speaker 1>don't really think Dog did anything wrong. He's a bounty hunter,

0:56:15.400 --> 0:56:18.440
<v Speaker 1>like he was looking for a rapist. Luster, on the

0:56:18.480 --> 0:56:21.360
<v Speaker 1>other hand, is given over to the American authorities. And

0:56:21.400 --> 0:56:25.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, he's been now already charged, already sentenced to one

0:56:25.480 --> 0:56:28.719
<v Speaker 1>hundred and twenty four years in prison. So the California

0:56:28.760 --> 0:56:32.120
<v Speaker 1>Court of Appeal refused an appeal from him, and they

0:56:32.200 --> 0:56:34.480
<v Speaker 1>cited that he was a fugitive and they're basically their

0:56:34.520 --> 0:56:37.000
<v Speaker 1>policy is like when you are a fugitive, when you

0:56:37.080 --> 0:56:40.560
<v Speaker 1>jump bail. You basically say fuck you to our court system,

0:56:40.600 --> 0:56:42.480
<v Speaker 1>and so you forfeit your right to an appeal, like

0:56:42.520 --> 0:56:44.600
<v Speaker 1>you were not going to listen to your appeals because

0:56:44.640 --> 0:56:49.560
<v Speaker 1>you ran the California Supreme Court and the United States

0:56:49.560 --> 0:56:52.600
<v Speaker 1>Supreme Court also later refused to overturn this ruling, so

0:56:52.640 --> 0:56:57.120
<v Speaker 1>this went up pretty high. Luster is currently at Valley

0:56:57.200 --> 0:57:02.120
<v Speaker 1>State Prison in Chowchilla, California, and under California law, since

0:57:02.160 --> 0:57:05.040
<v Speaker 1>his crimes harmed other people, he is required to serve

0:57:06.000 --> 0:57:08.920
<v Speaker 1>at least eighty five percent of his sentence before becoming

0:57:08.960 --> 0:57:13.520
<v Speaker 1>eligible for time off with good behavior, So that would

0:57:13.560 --> 0:57:15.520
<v Speaker 1>make it one hundred and five years, which is still

0:57:15.640 --> 0:57:19.800
<v Speaker 1>like a life sentence basically, but like Jurassic Park for assholes,

0:57:19.800 --> 0:57:22.800
<v Speaker 1>money finds a way, and in two thousand and nine

0:57:22.840 --> 0:57:26.280
<v Speaker 1>he filed a petition for habeas corpus as a final

0:57:26.320 --> 0:57:28.160
<v Speaker 1>possibility of having his case reviewed.

0:57:28.560 --> 0:57:31.440
<v Speaker 2>That was granted in twenty twelve.

0:57:32.320 --> 0:57:35.360
<v Speaker 1>And I looked up habeas corpus and I looked up

0:57:35.360 --> 0:57:37.840
<v Speaker 1>the dumbest definition of it, or like the definition for

0:57:37.840 --> 0:57:39.480
<v Speaker 1>the dumbest people, because I was like, I just want

0:57:39.480 --> 0:57:41.880
<v Speaker 1>to understand what it is, like tell it to me, like.

0:57:41.880 --> 0:57:42.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm in kindergarten.

0:57:43.120 --> 0:57:46.480
<v Speaker 1>And basically it is a legal rule that requires a

0:57:46.480 --> 0:57:50.440
<v Speaker 1>prisoner be presented in court and that the arrestor proved

0:57:50.520 --> 0:57:52.760
<v Speaker 1>that there is proper cause for detaining the prisoner.

0:57:53.120 --> 0:57:54.200
<v Speaker 2>So put simply, it means that.

0:57:54.200 --> 0:57:56.200
<v Speaker 1>If you are arrested, you have the right to make

0:57:56.240 --> 0:57:59.120
<v Speaker 1>the government prove to a judge that your arrests and

0:57:59.160 --> 0:58:03.720
<v Speaker 1>detainment are justice. I guess because he wasn't there for

0:58:03.800 --> 0:58:07.680
<v Speaker 1>his sentencing, he was denied his habeas corpus Again, can

0:58:07.720 --> 0:58:10.720
<v Speaker 1>our legal people write in and tell me why this

0:58:11.200 --> 0:58:12.080
<v Speaker 1>was allowed for him?

0:58:12.160 --> 0:58:14.440
<v Speaker 2>Do you think about legally blonde every time you hear

0:58:14.480 --> 0:58:18.160
<v Speaker 2>habeas corpus? Yes, but isn't that mens Rehya, that's her

0:58:18.320 --> 0:58:22.000
<v Speaker 2>earlier habeas corpus is in the classroom?

0:58:22.360 --> 0:58:22.560
<v Speaker 6>Wow?

0:58:22.720 --> 0:58:26.240
<v Speaker 2>Okay, the what's her name? Who's dating? Sarah Pauls Holland

0:58:26.520 --> 0:58:30.280
<v Speaker 2>Holland Taylor? Yeah, in her room is the habeas corpus? Okay?

0:58:30.480 --> 0:58:33.040
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I did definitely have a legally blonde thought

0:58:33.120 --> 0:58:33.520
<v Speaker 2>for sure.

0:58:34.080 --> 0:58:37.400
<v Speaker 1>So basically what happened after this whole habeas corpus thing

0:58:37.640 --> 0:58:41.080
<v Speaker 1>was that his sentence was vacated, but not the conviction

0:58:42.240 --> 0:58:45.720
<v Speaker 1>because the judge found that the original trial judge had

0:58:45.760 --> 0:58:50.920
<v Speaker 1>a failure to state specific reason for imposing consecutive sentences,

0:58:51.240 --> 0:58:53.800
<v Speaker 1>so he got a new sentencing hearing. Long story short,

0:58:53.800 --> 0:58:55.400
<v Speaker 1>he went from one hundred and twenty four years to

0:58:55.480 --> 0:58:58.200
<v Speaker 1>fifty years. He got forty eight years for the rapes

0:58:58.240 --> 0:59:01.080
<v Speaker 1>and two years for the drug related charge, and his

0:59:01.160 --> 0:59:03.640
<v Speaker 1>lawyers have indicated that there will be another appeal. So

0:59:03.680 --> 0:59:06.160
<v Speaker 1>it's like, I just feel like, when you're rich, you

0:59:06.160 --> 0:59:08.680
<v Speaker 1>could just keep appealing and appealing and appealing and eventually

0:59:08.720 --> 0:59:11.040
<v Speaker 1>your sentence will go down somehow, you.

0:59:11.000 --> 0:59:14.360
<v Speaker 2>Know, like for sure, But fifty years is still a lot.

0:59:14.400 --> 0:59:17.120
<v Speaker 2>And even if they cut that in half, twenty five

0:59:17.200 --> 0:59:18.720
<v Speaker 2>years is a long ass time too.

0:59:19.040 --> 0:59:21.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And he was I think thirty nine when he

0:59:21.560 --> 0:59:23.240
<v Speaker 1>went to jail, so if he went for fifty, he'd

0:59:23.240 --> 0:59:24.240
<v Speaker 1>get out at eighty nine.

0:59:24.320 --> 0:59:26.840
<v Speaker 2>Like it's it's still not like you know he's going

0:59:26.920 --> 0:59:29.560
<v Speaker 2>to be Yeah, So it's like, keep spending your max

0:59:29.640 --> 0:59:31.680
<v Speaker 2>factor money. You're going to be in jail till you're

0:59:31.720 --> 0:59:33.600
<v Speaker 2>fucking old, and you deserve well.

0:59:33.920 --> 0:59:36.600
<v Speaker 1>Speaking of so, two of the victims won civil suits

0:59:36.600 --> 0:59:37.240
<v Speaker 1>against him.

0:59:37.760 --> 0:59:40.080
<v Speaker 2>He was ordered to pay a total of forty million dollars.

0:59:40.120 --> 0:59:43.560
<v Speaker 1>He subsequently sold most of his property and declared bankruptcy

0:59:43.840 --> 0:59:44.720
<v Speaker 1>and he's still in jail.

0:59:45.280 --> 0:59:47.040
<v Speaker 2>So that is the Andrew Lester story.

0:59:47.360 --> 0:59:49.120
<v Speaker 1>I do want to take a second and just talk

0:59:49.120 --> 0:59:51.680
<v Speaker 1>about some research I did into scopolamine because I think

0:59:51.680 --> 0:59:57.320
<v Speaker 1>it's very interesting. Scopalamine, also known as devil's breath, also

0:59:57.400 --> 1:00:02.600
<v Speaker 1>known as brundunga, is a tropical alkaloid. Scopalamine was first

1:00:02.640 --> 1:00:04.520
<v Speaker 1>written about in eighteen eighty one, so that's like it

1:00:04.600 --> 1:00:06.760
<v Speaker 1>dates back to eighteen eighty one, and then it started

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<v Speaker 1>to be used as anesthesia and around nineteen hundred.

1:00:11.240 --> 1:00:13.480
<v Speaker 2>It can also be used as like a sedative.

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<v Speaker 1>Or to treat motion sickness or even Parkinson's disease, so

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<v Speaker 1>it has like legitimate uses. And then the criminal usage

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<v Speaker 1>of it dates back to the nineteen fifties because it

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<v Speaker 1>can cause in large quantities, it can cause intoxication that

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<v Speaker 1>causes submissive and obedient behavior in the victim, so criminals

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<v Speaker 1>will take will typically use borandoga or scopolamine to take

1:00:37.360 --> 1:00:40.040
<v Speaker 1>victims on what they call a million dollar ride, where

1:00:40.280 --> 1:00:43.280
<v Speaker 1>victims just basically empty out their bank accounts with no

1:00:43.360 --> 1:00:47.360
<v Speaker 1>clue of what's going on. There is not actually a

1:00:47.400 --> 1:00:50.720
<v Speaker 1>lot of reported cases of it being used for sexual assault,

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<v Speaker 1>but often it is for robberies and victims. Yeah, they

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<v Speaker 1>surrender their valuables to criminals with no resistance. Neither the

1:00:59.320 --> 1:01:02.160
<v Speaker 1>victim or people surrounding them know that a crime is

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<v Speaker 1>being committed, and so there's basically never any witnesses. And

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<v Speaker 1>it was it's really most commonly used in Columbia. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's why it tips off Melinda when she hears, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy goes to Columbia all the time scopolamine, because

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's just not typically used heavily in the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>It really hasn't been, and there's a lot a lot

1:01:22.560 --> 1:01:24.760
<v Speaker 1>of urban legends have been surrounding it. Like I remember

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<v Speaker 1>hearing this one one time, like, oh, if you go

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<v Speaker 1>to Columbia, someone will give you their business card and

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<v Speaker 1>the business card is laced with this stuff and just

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<v Speaker 1>touching it will make you into this zombie and blah

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<v Speaker 1>blah blah. You need to like ingest it or through

1:01:37.480 --> 1:01:40.800
<v Speaker 1>a transdermal patch in a large quantity to have the effect,

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<v Speaker 1>like what happens in the SBU episode, Like if somebody

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<v Speaker 1>just blows it in your face, like what they talk

1:01:45.720 --> 1:01:48.600
<v Speaker 1>about it, it's just not enough. You need to have

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<v Speaker 1>more of it to have the full zombie effect that

1:01:51.000 --> 1:01:52.880
<v Speaker 1>they're talking about, because there were.

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<v Speaker 2>All these like urban legends.

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<v Speaker 1>I was seeing them in my research, Like there was

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<v Speaker 1>a Facebook scam where people were like, look what happened.

1:02:00.400 --> 1:02:02.080
<v Speaker 1>We came out and we found this one hundred dollars

1:02:02.080 --> 1:02:06.360
<v Speaker 1>bill in the handlebar, the handle of our car, but

1:02:06.400 --> 1:02:08.720
<v Speaker 1>we didn't touch it because we'd heard about this thing

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<v Speaker 1>where people are covering it in scopolamine and basically they

1:02:13.000 --> 1:02:15.600
<v Speaker 1>follow you to rape you and kill you and rob

1:02:15.640 --> 1:02:18.720
<v Speaker 1>you and whatever. It was a complete hoax, like not true.

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<v Speaker 1>So a lot of the a lot of the reports

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<v Speaker 1>of any of scopolamine use in the US have been

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<v Speaker 1>greatly exaggerated or they're non existent, like they're parts of hoaxes.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was being used.

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<v Speaker 1>It has been used in Colombia for just basically robbing

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<v Speaker 1>people because allegedly it doesn't really fully brainwash people the

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<v Speaker 1>way that they talk about in this episode, like it's

1:02:41.880 --> 1:02:44.440
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more exaggerated, which it's fine they do

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<v Speaker 1>that for television. Like realistically, it looks like an overdose

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<v Speaker 1>of scopolamine just lowers your inhibitions and has like a

1:02:50.760 --> 1:02:53.600
<v Speaker 1>similar effect to taking benzos or getting really drunk, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like you do things that you're like I don't really remember,

1:02:56.400 --> 1:03:00.320
<v Speaker 1>I you know, like but it's not the full I'm

1:03:00.360 --> 1:03:02.480
<v Speaker 1>missing a day of my life, like what happened to

1:03:02.520 --> 1:03:06.400
<v Speaker 1>Kelly Hugh in the episode you know, so I thought

1:03:06.440 --> 1:03:08.920
<v Speaker 1>it was interesting. I mean, the US did, the US

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<v Speaker 1>Department of State in twenty twelve did issue a travel

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<v Speaker 1>advisory and tell people that unofficial estimates puts the number

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<v Speaker 1>of annual scopolamine incidences in Colombia at fifty thousands. So

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<v Speaker 1>they were they were really scared that it was very

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<v Speaker 1>widespread in Colombia at the time. In large doses, it

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<v Speaker 1>can cause respiratory failure and death. I mean, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>I think with anything, too much can cause really bad problems.

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<v Speaker 1>It is most often administered in liquid or powder form

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<v Speaker 1>in your food or beverage. And like they're just they're

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<v Speaker 1>just wanting people that, like men are usually getting targeted

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<v Speaker 1>in nightclubs and bars by like young women giving them scopolamine.

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<v Speaker 1>And you should seek immediate attention if you've been dosed.

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<v Speaker 2>The hustlers is this to rob them? This is hustlers,

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<v Speaker 2>It's the hustler's drug.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So I mean Andrew lust was using GHB because

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<v Speaker 1>I think that they're taking this is basically two stories

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<v Speaker 1>being combined into one for us VU because really, scoopalamine

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<v Speaker 1>is not being used in the US very much, and

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<v Speaker 1>when it is, it's most or when it is being used,

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<v Speaker 1>even in Columbia, it's not.

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<v Speaker 2>For murder and sexual assault, it's mostly for robbery.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the that's the scoop on the Max Factor

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<v Speaker 1>air and scopolamine aka Devil's Breath, Baby, thank you. I

1:04:26.600 --> 1:04:30.959
<v Speaker 1>loved this episode. It's a tough crime. It's tough crime

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<v Speaker 1>and tough episode. I mean, those videos are really hard

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<v Speaker 1>to fucking watch.

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<v Speaker 2>The videos are rough, they're pretty graphic in terms of SVO.

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<v Speaker 2>But we have an amazing guest. Yes, we've a very

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<v Speaker 2>inspiring guest. I had a great I had a great time.

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<v Speaker 2>After we talk to this guest, we talked about it

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<v Speaker 2>like for the next couple of days us. We were

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<v Speaker 2>really excited.

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<v Speaker 1>So stick around and we will be right back with

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<v Speaker 1>our guest interview. Okay, I am so excited for our

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<v Speaker 1>interview today because she just is a very impressive person.

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<v Speaker 1>She is the first Asian American female to be crowned

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<v Speaker 1>Miss Teen USA, the first Asian American to be on

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<v Speaker 1>the cover of Maxim magazine. You know her from her

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<v Speaker 1>role in The Scorpion King, Vampire Diaries, Hawaii five Oh Ncies.

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<v Speaker 1>She's been on so many things. This bitch gets hired. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we are so excited to talk to you know her

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<v Speaker 1>as Kelly's son, but we spoke to Kelly who first.

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to say you you've been working for Like,

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<v Speaker 2>your resume is so impressive. It's just like you've been

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<v Speaker 2>bold and believe. I mean, looks so young.

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<v Speaker 1>You look so young, not that it matters, but like

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<v Speaker 1>you look it is the same as you did in

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<v Speaker 1>your and you're in this episode like thirteen years ago.

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<v Speaker 3>Lighting it's like I got like circle lighting. That's what

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<v Speaker 3>it is.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the key, good ring light, the dream. I just

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<v Speaker 2>feel like just working in this business so hard and

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<v Speaker 2>like to be able to do so many You've also

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<v Speaker 2>done so many different things. So when you got the

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<v Speaker 2>call for SVU, was this just another job or was

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<v Speaker 2>there a little excitement because it's such an iconic show.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you remember?

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<v Speaker 6>I have to admit I was not a huge fan

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<v Speaker 6>of the show. I didn't watch. You know, a lot

1:06:28.320 --> 1:06:31.560
<v Speaker 6>of these kinds of shows. And I have to admit

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<v Speaker 6>I was really upset when I got it because.

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<v Speaker 3>It shot over election night. So it was election night

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<v Speaker 3>two thousand.

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<v Speaker 6>And eight November, and I had been working on the

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<v Speaker 6>Obama campaign for over three years.

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<v Speaker 3>Like as soon as he announced, or before he even announced.

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<v Speaker 6>I was like, I'm in because I had heard from

1:06:56.000 --> 1:06:58.080
<v Speaker 6>friends of mine in Hawaii that he was going to

1:06:58.120 --> 1:07:01.040
<v Speaker 6>be announcing. So I had been working on the Obama

1:07:01.080 --> 1:07:03.200
<v Speaker 6>campaign for so long, and then when I heard that

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<v Speaker 6>I got this job, I was like, no.

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<v Speaker 3>I have to go to New York.

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<v Speaker 5>I wanted to be with all my friends that had

1:07:08.880 --> 1:07:13.080
<v Speaker 5>worked on the campaign, and I was really bummed because

1:07:13.080 --> 1:07:15.760
<v Speaker 5>I didn't I didn't think I would have any friends

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<v Speaker 5>to be like watching the elections with.

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<v Speaker 3>It was so huge.

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<v Speaker 6>It was such a momentous night for us, but it

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<v Speaker 6>was really it was just you know, something that I

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<v Speaker 6>had been working with my friends, you know, for so long,

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<v Speaker 6>and I just wanted to have this night to be

1:07:32.920 --> 1:07:35.560
<v Speaker 6>able to you know, be with them. But then I,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, I found some friends that were in New

1:07:38.360 --> 1:07:41.160
<v Speaker 6>York and I went to their apartment to watch and

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<v Speaker 6>I have to admit, New York was the absolute best

1:07:44.880 --> 1:07:46.320
<v Speaker 6>place to be for election night.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, because you.

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<v Speaker 3>Were there in New York.

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<v Speaker 6>So, like New York is not like La where where

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<v Speaker 6>you know, La, everybody just kind of sits in their

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<v Speaker 6>car and nobody really walks anywhere. But in New York

1:08:02.800 --> 1:08:05.840
<v Speaker 6>election night, as soon as it got announced, people came

1:08:06.480 --> 1:08:10.920
<v Speaker 6>rolling out into the streets and banging pots and pans,

1:08:11.040 --> 1:08:14.840
<v Speaker 6>and like I remember, people like actually shoved their sofa

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<v Speaker 6>into an intersection so that people could like like jump

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<v Speaker 6>on a sofa in the middle of the street.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it was really.

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<v Speaker 6>A different kind of atmosphere that would never have happened

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<v Speaker 6>in Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was a blessing in disguise.

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<v Speaker 3>So it was a blessing in disguise.

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<v Speaker 6>And so it was the night before I had to

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<v Speaker 6>shoot the opening shot where I'm in the park in

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<v Speaker 6>my lingerie, all lighted up and supposedly you know, like drugged,

1:08:42.240 --> 1:08:44.799
<v Speaker 6>right I had. I was supposed to be wondering the park,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, all night in my lingerie. And the night

1:08:51.920 --> 1:08:55.200
<v Speaker 6>before shooting that was election night, And so I had

1:08:55.200 --> 1:08:57.839
<v Speaker 6>been up to like three o'clock in the morning dancing

1:08:57.880 --> 1:09:00.080
<v Speaker 6>with strangers in Union Square.

1:09:00.080 --> 1:09:03.160
<v Speaker 3>And just like partying. And because I was like, well,

1:09:03.240 --> 1:09:05.400
<v Speaker 3>I have to look like crap the next morning anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I guess it's like added to your drugged up

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<v Speaker 1>look a little bit.

1:09:08.880 --> 1:09:09.920
<v Speaker 3>That you were just weird.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, do you wait.

1:09:12.479 --> 1:09:14.280
<v Speaker 1>We don't want to objectify you in any way, but

1:09:14.320 --> 1:09:16.720
<v Speaker 1>you did look amazing and your lingerie going up to

1:09:16.760 --> 1:09:20.280
<v Speaker 1>the baby, trying up and drinking all night.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. We didn't want to be rude because it is like,

1:09:23.560 --> 1:09:26.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, there's blood and something just happened to you.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was hard not to be like, she looks incredible.

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<v Speaker 6>It was a little it was a little bit nerve

1:09:34.680 --> 1:09:38.160
<v Speaker 6>wrecking to shoot that, only because you know, it was cold.

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<v Speaker 3>It's November in New York.

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<v Speaker 6>And I'm in you know, lingerie and this and and

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<v Speaker 6>and also the baby. You know, it was like a

1:09:47.439 --> 1:09:49.040
<v Speaker 6>I think it was like about one or two.

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<v Speaker 2>It was.

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<v Speaker 6>It was like talking stage and it actually pointed to

1:09:53.280 --> 1:09:56.120
<v Speaker 6>the blood coming down from my crouching on down my

1:09:56.240 --> 1:09:59.439
<v Speaker 6>leg and it pointed to the blood and looked at

1:09:59.520 --> 1:10:05.400
<v Speaker 6>his mom went blood, mommy blood. And I was like, oh, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know, I don't know how to talk to

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<v Speaker 6>two year old about that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was a little uncomfortable.

1:10:12.840 --> 1:10:16.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I bet that sounds like an added level.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, so, and how was it shooting that scene, because

1:10:19.360 --> 1:10:21.360
<v Speaker 1>you guys really are in Central Park and people are

1:10:21.439 --> 1:10:23.280
<v Speaker 1>kind of around and you're just in like a trench

1:10:23.280 --> 1:10:25.360
<v Speaker 1>coat and underwear, like were you Yeah?

1:10:25.400 --> 1:10:27.679
<v Speaker 2>Did you feel like people were like stopping and gawking?

1:10:27.800 --> 1:10:29.880
<v Speaker 3>And do you know it's New York, so I don't

1:10:29.880 --> 1:10:34.559
<v Speaker 3>think anybody cares. Yeah, you know, yeah, people in New

1:10:34.680 --> 1:10:38.280
<v Speaker 3>York are just like, you know, they keep to themselves.

1:10:38.560 --> 1:10:40.800
<v Speaker 6>You know, there are crazier things going on than women

1:10:40.840 --> 1:10:42.439
<v Speaker 6>walking around in their underwear at the park.

1:10:43.040 --> 1:10:44.040
<v Speaker 3>You know, they don't care.

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<v Speaker 2>But the scene in the hospital and you had a

1:10:47.840 --> 1:10:50.640
<v Speaker 2>tough scene, like the actual rape scene. You have like

1:10:50.720 --> 1:10:54.439
<v Speaker 2>really tough scenes in this episode. How do you prep

1:10:54.479 --> 1:10:57.400
<v Speaker 2>and how is it to shoot like crying and then

1:10:57.439 --> 1:10:59.000
<v Speaker 2>like being attacked by this guy?

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<v Speaker 6>You know, I think when you're actually going through the

1:11:03.479 --> 1:11:07.599
<v Speaker 6>motions of being attacked, you don't have to prep a lot.

1:11:07.800 --> 1:11:09.559
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I think it really is.

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<v Speaker 6>Kind of innate, right that the struggle is real, Like,

1:11:14.400 --> 1:11:16.600
<v Speaker 6>you don't even it's not something that you have to

1:11:17.400 --> 1:11:20.880
<v Speaker 6>like really put that much practice in. If you are

1:11:21.439 --> 1:11:23.400
<v Speaker 6>trying to get up and somebody is holding you down.

1:11:24.040 --> 1:11:26.760
<v Speaker 6>That in itself is enough to get you to where

1:11:26.760 --> 1:11:27.880
<v Speaker 6>you need to be as an actor.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was wondering how many takes did you guys?

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<v Speaker 2>Did you throw the flowers the vase? Was that a

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<v Speaker 2>one and done then you had to break the vase?

1:11:37.640 --> 1:11:41.080
<v Speaker 2>Or did you get to like scene.

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<v Speaker 3>In the hospital scene. I think we only had one.

1:11:42.640 --> 1:11:43.760
<v Speaker 3>I think we only did one.

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<v Speaker 2>Make it count.

1:11:45.040 --> 1:11:49.439
<v Speaker 3>Oh, we rehearsed with paper towel roles, That's what it was.

1:11:49.960 --> 1:11:52.679
<v Speaker 3>That's what it was. We rehearsed with the paper towel roles.

1:11:52.840 --> 1:11:55.240
<v Speaker 3>And then yeah, they were like, okay, like this is

1:11:55.240 --> 1:11:57.120
<v Speaker 3>the scene, this is where you get to throw the vase.

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<v Speaker 6>They probably they must have had more than one just

1:12:00.720 --> 1:12:03.040
<v Speaker 6>in case it went askew, because I'm not a very

1:12:03.080 --> 1:12:08.400
<v Speaker 6>good like thrower, like pitcher whatever you call it. See,

1:12:08.400 --> 1:12:09.560
<v Speaker 6>I don't even know the terminology.

1:12:09.560 --> 1:12:10.080
<v Speaker 3>I'm so bad.

1:12:10.560 --> 1:12:14.719
<v Speaker 6>But but yeah, I do remember like like just tossing

1:12:14.760 --> 1:12:17.400
<v Speaker 6>paper towels for for the rehearsal.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you've done a lot of different crime procedural shows,

1:12:22.200 --> 1:12:23.080
<v Speaker 2>so we were.

1:12:23.160 --> 1:12:25.439
<v Speaker 6>Think I've done them all. I don't think there's one

1:12:25.479 --> 1:12:26.920
<v Speaker 6>that I haven't done yet.

1:12:27.280 --> 1:12:29.040
<v Speaker 2>Well, we were going we like to play this game.

1:12:29.360 --> 1:12:32.200
<v Speaker 2>So if you needed a squad to show up and

1:12:32.200 --> 1:12:36.280
<v Speaker 2>you had an emergency, would you want that NCIS, SVU

1:12:36.560 --> 1:12:38.400
<v Speaker 2>or CSI team coming your way?

1:12:39.320 --> 1:12:41.519
<v Speaker 3>Oh you need help?

1:12:41.600 --> 1:12:43.200
<v Speaker 2>There are actually I.

1:12:43.240 --> 1:12:44.480
<v Speaker 3>Want one emergency.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, but like all these don't all these guys come

1:12:47.400 --> 1:12:51.040
<v Speaker 6>after the fact, like none of them. Actually, I guess

1:12:51.120 --> 1:12:53.160
<v Speaker 6>I would want Marishka on my side. She seems like

1:12:53.160 --> 1:12:56.679
<v Speaker 6>the biggest sadass. Yeah, I'm gonna say Marishka.

1:12:57.080 --> 1:13:00.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think that's probably a good answer, right, And

1:13:00.400 --> 1:13:03.840
<v Speaker 2>you did Hawaii? If i've oh and I.

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<v Speaker 3>Got blown up on that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's wow.

1:13:06.880 --> 1:13:07.840
<v Speaker 3>You guys haven't seen it?

1:13:08.080 --> 1:13:13.479
<v Speaker 2>Sorry, well then we just it popped out to us

1:13:13.520 --> 1:13:15.800
<v Speaker 2>because since you're from Hawaii, Like, was it cool to

1:13:15.840 --> 1:13:19.040
<v Speaker 2>shoot back in your home and like be back to

1:13:19.120 --> 1:13:19.599
<v Speaker 2>work there.

1:13:20.320 --> 1:13:23.200
<v Speaker 3>I always love going home to Hawaii to shoot.

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<v Speaker 6>There's just us a different maybe, And maybe it's just

1:13:27.520 --> 1:13:31.240
<v Speaker 6>me because I'm from Hawaii and like you know, I'm

1:13:32.360 --> 1:13:34.800
<v Speaker 6>I'm still very connected to Hawaii. I still go home,

1:13:34.840 --> 1:13:37.759
<v Speaker 6>and I still do a lot of like charity work,

1:13:37.920 --> 1:13:41.120
<v Speaker 6>and you know, I'm always visiting. Until recently, my mom

1:13:41.280 --> 1:13:43.680
<v Speaker 6>was living there. She actually just moved to Vegas. She

1:13:43.680 --> 1:13:47.479
<v Speaker 6>didn't die. She just moved to Vegas, and so I

1:13:47.520 --> 1:13:50.320
<v Speaker 6>was always, you know, still very connected to Hawaii. And

1:13:50.360 --> 1:13:53.040
<v Speaker 6>so when I get to work with a crew that

1:13:53.240 --> 1:13:57.600
<v Speaker 6>is local, that you know, that didn't even exist, like

1:13:57.680 --> 1:14:01.080
<v Speaker 6>filming didn't really even exist before I left the Islands,

1:14:01.320 --> 1:14:04.320
<v Speaker 6>that you know, these this whole industry has.

1:14:04.320 --> 1:14:08.120
<v Speaker 3>Come about, you know, since you know, since after.

1:14:08.000 --> 1:14:12.200
<v Speaker 6>I left in eighty six or seven, and so it's

1:14:12.280 --> 1:14:15.200
<v Speaker 6>just it's such a great feeling. I feel like I'm

1:14:15.320 --> 1:14:18.400
<v Speaker 6>really taken care of, you know, like more than any

1:14:18.400 --> 1:14:21.320
<v Speaker 6>other show. Like I just feel like they go above

1:14:21.360 --> 1:14:25.360
<v Speaker 6>and beyond because I'm a local girl. And yeah, I

1:14:25.400 --> 1:14:29.240
<v Speaker 6>get so much support from people in Hawaii. It's you know,

1:14:29.240 --> 1:14:31.439
<v Speaker 6>I've been doing this since I was a teenager now,

1:14:31.640 --> 1:14:35.960
<v Speaker 6>since I won the pageant back in eighty five, and

1:14:36.120 --> 1:14:39.120
<v Speaker 6>so I just people in Hawaii. It's like, if you

1:14:39.160 --> 1:14:44.000
<v Speaker 6>see somebody else that's from Hawaii, you automatically wish them well,

1:14:44.080 --> 1:14:47.679
<v Speaker 6>you automatically give them all your support. It's like it's

1:14:47.720 --> 1:14:50.240
<v Speaker 6>like this built in support system. And I think that

1:14:50.360 --> 1:14:54.760
<v Speaker 6>not a lot of people get to experience that, you know,

1:14:54.840 --> 1:14:57.800
<v Speaker 6>that have like a whole home state or a whole

1:14:57.840 --> 1:14:59.759
<v Speaker 6>hometown just rooting for them.

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<v Speaker 1>Well you were mentioning the beauty pageants and then like

1:15:03.560 --> 1:15:06.080
<v Speaker 1>leaving around eighty seven. That's so your big acting break

1:15:06.160 --> 1:15:07.400
<v Speaker 1>was Growing Pains.

1:15:07.080 --> 1:15:11.519
<v Speaker 2>Right, Yes, I'm like, I like die that you.

1:15:11.479 --> 1:15:13.719
<v Speaker 1>Were in Growing Pains. That was such a huge show,

1:15:14.240 --> 1:15:17.160
<v Speaker 1>like for me growing up. I feel like that's so crazy.

1:15:17.160 --> 1:15:19.479
<v Speaker 1>How was that with Like your first big role is

1:15:19.520 --> 1:15:22.280
<v Speaker 1>like on this massive sitcom that everybody watches.

1:15:22.479 --> 1:15:24.360
<v Speaker 3>Right, and I got to kiss Kirk Cameron.

1:15:24.720 --> 1:15:24.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

1:15:24.920 --> 1:15:27.920
<v Speaker 3>I got all kinds of death threats after that, like

1:15:27.960 --> 1:15:32.680
<v Speaker 3>from thet you did. Yes, Like, yes, they hated.

1:15:32.240 --> 1:15:34.200
<v Speaker 6>Me because I got to kiss Kirk Cameron because he

1:15:34.320 --> 1:15:36.480
<v Speaker 6>was like the biggest thing on television.

1:15:37.240 --> 1:15:39.439
<v Speaker 3>Isn't that so weird? Yeah?

1:15:39.479 --> 1:15:40.840
<v Speaker 2>He was a huge heart throb.

1:15:40.920 --> 1:15:47.960
<v Speaker 1>He's a little different now, I think, but yes, that's

1:15:48.120 --> 1:15:50.439
<v Speaker 1>so cool. But I love Oh my god, I love

1:15:50.439 --> 1:15:52.240
<v Speaker 1>the idea of getting death threats from like twelve year

1:15:52.240 --> 1:15:53.760
<v Speaker 1>old girls, like what are you gonna do?

1:15:54.360 --> 1:15:57.960
<v Speaker 2>What was your talent for the pageant?

1:15:58.720 --> 1:16:02.800
<v Speaker 6>I chose where I didn't have to do a stupid talent.

1:16:08.200 --> 1:16:09.320
<v Speaker 2>I didn't have.

1:16:09.280 --> 1:16:12.280
<v Speaker 6>Any kind of talent that I could do on stage.

1:16:12.400 --> 1:16:15.120
<v Speaker 6>You know, people could be talented in so many areas,

1:16:15.280 --> 1:16:18.680
<v Speaker 6>but you know, you can't necessarily perform it on stage,

1:16:19.000 --> 1:16:21.120
<v Speaker 6>and so you end up with these girls who like

1:16:21.320 --> 1:16:24.960
<v Speaker 6>make up all of these crazy talents like sign language

1:16:25.040 --> 1:16:28.519
<v Speaker 6>to music. And I never knew there were so many

1:16:28.600 --> 1:16:33.320
<v Speaker 6>like xylophone players, Like they're like like somehow everybody becomes

1:16:33.439 --> 1:16:38.439
<v Speaker 6>like sign language expert and xylophone player. But yeah, I

1:16:38.800 --> 1:16:41.600
<v Speaker 6>I I chose the one that where I didn't have

1:16:41.720 --> 1:16:45.680
<v Speaker 6>to do any kind of talent and that gave cash prizes.

1:16:46.080 --> 1:16:46.639
<v Speaker 3>Instead of.

1:16:48.600 --> 1:16:49.240
<v Speaker 2>Very smart.

1:16:50.360 --> 1:16:53.639
<v Speaker 6>But but yeah, so I entered the pageant though, because

1:16:53.920 --> 1:16:58.040
<v Speaker 6>I was scouted by a modeling scout from Japan who

1:16:58.080 --> 1:17:00.280
<v Speaker 6>told me that if I had entered a pageant and

1:17:00.320 --> 1:17:03.960
<v Speaker 6>got just the local title, that they could.

1:17:03.600 --> 1:17:05.599
<v Speaker 3>Use that to promote me as a model in Japan

1:17:05.640 --> 1:17:06.639
<v Speaker 3>and I could make more money.

1:17:07.120 --> 1:17:08.400
<v Speaker 2>And at that.

1:17:08.520 --> 1:17:12.880
<v Speaker 6>Time in the eighties, it was you know, my mom

1:17:13.040 --> 1:17:16.200
<v Speaker 6>was was a struggling single mom, you know, holding down

1:17:16.400 --> 1:17:18.880
<v Speaker 6>three jobs all the time just to you know, make

1:17:18.960 --> 1:17:22.759
<v Speaker 6>ends meet. And so I was hearing of these girls

1:17:22.800 --> 1:17:25.960
<v Speaker 6>that were going to Japan during the summer and making

1:17:26.080 --> 1:17:30.120
<v Speaker 6>like twenty thousand dollars like in the eighties, which was huge,

1:17:30.240 --> 1:17:31.720
<v Speaker 6>right for anybody.

1:17:31.640 --> 1:17:34.000
<v Speaker 3>And coming back home.

1:17:33.880 --> 1:17:36.400
<v Speaker 6>And you know, like making a deposit on a house

1:17:36.520 --> 1:17:38.360
<v Speaker 6>and you know, so so.

1:17:38.479 --> 1:17:39.599
<v Speaker 3>I thought, you know, if I.

1:17:39.600 --> 1:17:43.040
<v Speaker 6>Could get in that and help my mom, it would

1:17:43.080 --> 1:17:45.840
<v Speaker 6>be huge for me. And then also I just loved

1:17:45.880 --> 1:17:48.479
<v Speaker 6>being in front of the camera anyway, So I mostly

1:17:48.640 --> 1:17:51.280
<v Speaker 6>entered so that I could, you know, I was under

1:17:51.280 --> 1:17:54.920
<v Speaker 6>contract already as a model and whatnot to go off

1:17:54.920 --> 1:17:58.519
<v Speaker 6>that summer. But then you know, I entered the local pageant,

1:17:58.600 --> 1:18:03.600
<v Speaker 6>I won that, and part of the uh, you know, obligation,

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<v Speaker 6>I guess, is that you have to run in the

1:18:06.000 --> 1:18:06.919
<v Speaker 6>national pageant.

1:18:07.360 --> 1:18:09.360
<v Speaker 3>And so I figured I'd just run in the national.

1:18:09.080 --> 1:18:11.519
<v Speaker 6>Pageant and then I'd go off and do my you know,

1:18:11.840 --> 1:18:15.479
<v Speaker 6>modeling contract over the summer. Not even thinking that I

1:18:15.520 --> 1:18:19.200
<v Speaker 6>would be in consideration for the national I was like, I'll.

1:18:19.080 --> 1:18:21.000
<v Speaker 3>Get to be on TV if I make the top ten.

1:18:22.840 --> 1:18:24.080
<v Speaker 3>That was my dream. I was like, I want to

1:18:24.080 --> 1:18:24.920
<v Speaker 3>be on national TV.

1:18:26.080 --> 1:18:29.799
<v Speaker 6>But yeah, so I ended up, I think a surprise

1:18:29.840 --> 1:18:32.680
<v Speaker 6>to everyone, I ended up winning the national pageant and

1:18:32.720 --> 1:18:35.960
<v Speaker 6>then was not able to do my you know, fulfill

1:18:36.000 --> 1:18:38.880
<v Speaker 6>my modeling contract because I had to represent just the

1:18:38.920 --> 1:18:42.320
<v Speaker 6>sponsors of the pageant and stuff I was under contract

1:18:42.320 --> 1:18:45.559
<v Speaker 6>with them. So yeah, it was it was a lot

1:18:45.600 --> 1:18:49.160
<v Speaker 6>to take in for a sixteen year old, you know, yeah.

1:18:48.920 --> 1:18:51.439
<v Speaker 2>I can't imagine. So did you go back to school

1:18:51.520 --> 1:18:53.439
<v Speaker 2>or did you just like travel at the Crown.

1:18:54.920 --> 1:18:58.560
<v Speaker 6>I wanted to not go back to school, but they

1:18:58.439 --> 1:19:00.559
<v Speaker 6>were like, that's not a good look for a Miss

1:19:00.600 --> 1:19:05.280
<v Speaker 6>ten Usa to drop out of school. So yeah, no,

1:19:05.360 --> 1:19:07.040
<v Speaker 6>I went back to school. But I was I was

1:19:07.120 --> 1:19:09.240
<v Speaker 6>just half heartedly there. I mean, I was just like

1:19:09.479 --> 1:19:12.200
<v Speaker 6>school was just like a.

1:19:12.160 --> 1:19:15.360
<v Speaker 3>Hurdle that I had to get over in order to

1:19:15.439 --> 1:19:18.000
<v Speaker 3>start the life that I was meant to live. You know,

1:19:18.040 --> 1:19:19.360
<v Speaker 3>I knew that I was going to be moving to

1:19:19.520 --> 1:19:22.640
<v Speaker 3>Los Angeles and becoming an actor and and doing all

1:19:22.720 --> 1:19:26.840
<v Speaker 3>of that, because it was the opportunities were already presenting themselves,

1:19:26.920 --> 1:19:30.559
<v Speaker 3>and and and I just I was just like, school

1:19:30.640 --> 1:19:33.280
<v Speaker 3>is just, uh, you know, something that I have to do.

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<v Speaker 3>And and shortly after, yeah, shortly after, I got growing pains,

1:19:39.680 --> 1:19:42.760
<v Speaker 3>and then I was able to move to Los Angeles

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<v Speaker 3>before the episode even aired.

1:19:44.200 --> 1:19:45.040
<v Speaker 2>I was that ready.

1:19:45.040 --> 1:19:47.080
<v Speaker 3>I was like so jonesy to go.

1:19:48.000 --> 1:19:50.560
<v Speaker 6>As soon as I finished filming, I packed up my

1:19:50.640 --> 1:19:52.920
<v Speaker 6>bags and I moved to Los Angeles before the show

1:19:52.960 --> 1:19:53.599
<v Speaker 6>even aired.

1:19:54.240 --> 1:19:56.800
<v Speaker 3>I and and I remember.

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<v Speaker 6>That day I found one of those books of agencies,

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<v Speaker 6>Samuel French. I think all the Samuel frenchips have closed

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<v Speaker 6>down now, right. So I did like a mass mailing,

1:20:08.080 --> 1:20:10.600
<v Speaker 6>and I took out a full page ad in Variety

1:20:10.800 --> 1:20:14.280
<v Speaker 6>announcing that that show was going to be premiering that night,

1:20:15.640 --> 1:20:19.080
<v Speaker 6>and I said that I.

1:20:19.000 --> 1:20:22.920
<v Speaker 3>Was now available for West Coast representation. Wow. I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>even have an agent or anything at that point.

1:20:25.240 --> 1:20:26.320
<v Speaker 2>Who told you to do that?

1:20:28.120 --> 1:20:31.080
<v Speaker 6>I had seen a bunch of ads and stuff that

1:20:31.120 --> 1:20:34.800
<v Speaker 6>people were doing in Variety, and they were taking out

1:20:34.800 --> 1:20:38.200
<v Speaker 6>mostly like you know, like small little ads, like you know,

1:20:38.439 --> 1:20:41.200
<v Speaker 6>business card size ads or little you know, eighth of

1:20:41.240 --> 1:20:43.759
<v Speaker 6>a page or something. But I had all this money

1:20:43.800 --> 1:20:45.840
<v Speaker 6>that I had won from the pageant, and I thought,

1:20:45.960 --> 1:20:50.320
<v Speaker 6>go big or go home, right, So I took out

1:20:50.360 --> 1:20:53.360
<v Speaker 6>this full page ad of like my headshot and then

1:20:53.400 --> 1:20:55.600
<v Speaker 6>a little corner picture of me in a bikini, like

1:20:56.000 --> 1:20:59.040
<v Speaker 6>you know, posing with my I don't know what that

1:20:59.240 --> 1:21:01.880
<v Speaker 6>was about, but I guess I thought it was like

1:21:03.080 --> 1:21:05.320
<v Speaker 6>I thought that, you know, like people would want to

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<v Speaker 6>see me in a swimsuit, and so I put that

1:21:08.840 --> 1:21:12.400
<v Speaker 6>on and I got like twenty calls from agents before

1:21:12.400 --> 1:21:16.240
<v Speaker 6>the show even aired. Because there were no Asian girls

1:21:16.400 --> 1:21:19.080
<v Speaker 6>in Los Angeles in Hollywood at the time, they were

1:21:19.160 --> 1:21:21.559
<v Speaker 6>just like three and that was it, you.

1:21:21.520 --> 1:21:25.960
<v Speaker 2>Know, so you got to pick your agent. That's cool, Like.

1:21:26.120 --> 1:21:28.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I didn't even I didn't even know who

1:21:29.640 --> 1:21:30.200
<v Speaker 3>to go to.

1:21:30.720 --> 1:21:34.400
<v Speaker 6>But one of the manager of my building was also

1:21:34.439 --> 1:21:37.080
<v Speaker 6>an actor, and I came back with this list and

1:21:37.120 --> 1:21:39.400
<v Speaker 6>I'm like, so these are the people who responded, and

1:21:39.439 --> 1:21:42.160
<v Speaker 6>he's like, you realize that I've been doing this for

1:21:42.200 --> 1:21:44.920
<v Speaker 6>fifteen years and I can't even get meetings or get

1:21:44.960 --> 1:21:46.600
<v Speaker 6>any of these people to call me back. And it

1:21:46.680 --> 1:21:52.080
<v Speaker 6>was like, yeah, oh sorry, Like I know, because I

1:21:52.160 --> 1:21:54.120
<v Speaker 6>was so young and so new and so gung ho,

1:21:54.240 --> 1:21:56.960
<v Speaker 6>I didn't know it was supposed to be hard. You know.

1:21:57.360 --> 1:21:59.400
<v Speaker 3>It was just like everything was.

1:21:59.360 --> 1:22:01.800
<v Speaker 6>Just falling in place for me, and it was like,

1:22:02.360 --> 1:22:05.400
<v Speaker 6>you know, it wasn't until I was older that I

1:22:05.479 --> 1:22:08.679
<v Speaker 6>really was able to appreciate, like, wow, this is this

1:22:08.720 --> 1:22:10.680
<v Speaker 6>is no joke, you know, this is this is a

1:22:10.720 --> 1:22:11.400
<v Speaker 6>tough business.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah for sure.

1:22:12.800 --> 1:22:15.519
<v Speaker 1>I mean and especially like as an Asian American, I

1:22:15.520 --> 1:22:18.719
<v Speaker 1>mean like you and you were the first they didn't

1:22:18.720 --> 1:22:21.559
<v Speaker 1>have any so you're like a transpasor of these of

1:22:21.600 --> 1:22:22.880
<v Speaker 1>Asian American women.

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<v Speaker 6>Which I didn't realize, right, because I you know, even

1:22:27.400 --> 1:22:32.080
<v Speaker 6>in the pageant, my whole attitude was you know, because

1:22:32.320 --> 1:22:33.520
<v Speaker 6>I remember leaving.

1:22:33.200 --> 1:22:34.560
<v Speaker 3>Before going to the pageant.

1:22:34.720 --> 1:22:38.320
<v Speaker 6>You know, my mom said, don't now, don't cry when

1:22:38.360 --> 1:22:40.439
<v Speaker 6>you don't win, because America is not ready for an

1:22:40.479 --> 1:22:43.480
<v Speaker 6>Asian Miss teen or she said Oriental Miss teen USA.

1:22:43.520 --> 1:22:45.759
<v Speaker 3>And I was like, oh, that's so old fashioned. Nobody

1:22:45.800 --> 1:22:46.919
<v Speaker 3>thinks like that anymore.

1:22:47.320 --> 1:22:49.840
<v Speaker 6>You know, this is nineteen eighty five, and it was like,

1:22:50.040 --> 1:22:55.080
<v Speaker 6>you know, I had no idea that mentality was still

1:22:55.120 --> 1:22:58.120
<v Speaker 6>out there on the mainland. Because I grew up in Hawaii,

1:22:58.240 --> 1:23:03.559
<v Speaker 6>where Asians are the majority. I never experienced racism or

1:23:03.600 --> 1:23:06.040
<v Speaker 6>prejudice or any of that kind of stuff. So my

1:23:06.160 --> 1:23:09.160
<v Speaker 6>whole attitude was, well, if I'm not going to win,

1:23:09.479 --> 1:23:12.519
<v Speaker 6>I'm going to stand out, and you know, I'm going

1:23:12.600 --> 1:23:16.559
<v Speaker 6>to my my my asianness is what makes me different

1:23:16.640 --> 1:23:20.120
<v Speaker 6>and what makes me unique. And so I came to

1:23:20.240 --> 1:23:24.160
<v Speaker 6>Hollywood with that same attitude, you know, Like to me,

1:23:24.320 --> 1:23:26.200
<v Speaker 6>I was like, well, I'm not going to be like

1:23:26.240 --> 1:23:29.759
<v Speaker 6>all those little, you know, blonde haired, blue eyed girls

1:23:29.840 --> 1:23:31.360
<v Speaker 6>that are trying to get work.

1:23:32.200 --> 1:23:37.720
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to use this to my advantage. You know.

1:23:37.920 --> 1:23:41.360
<v Speaker 3>So I think just coming in with a different attitude

1:23:41.400 --> 1:23:41.800
<v Speaker 3>that was.

1:23:42.840 --> 1:23:46.960
<v Speaker 6>Sort of unapologetic really helped to you know, to my

1:23:47.040 --> 1:23:50.920
<v Speaker 6>advantage as well. Yeah, and it's just also like not

1:23:51.120 --> 1:23:55.200
<v Speaker 6>knowing better, you know, not knowing better sometimes really works

1:23:55.280 --> 1:23:56.240
<v Speaker 6>to your advantage.

1:23:56.880 --> 1:23:59.880
<v Speaker 2>Now you're a badass, I'm very inspired like to have

1:24:00.439 --> 1:24:03.200
<v Speaker 2>to be like, oh, I'm going to get this pageant,

1:24:03.280 --> 1:24:05.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to go fucking model. I'm going to get

1:24:05.160 --> 1:24:08.200
<v Speaker 2>an ad out in variety. It's like so much, like

1:24:09.439 --> 1:24:11.680
<v Speaker 2>so much for so such a young age to do

1:24:11.760 --> 1:24:15.240
<v Speaker 2>all that and be so like, I just never heard

1:24:15.280 --> 1:24:16.880
<v Speaker 2>of anyone doing that, it's so cool.

1:24:17.080 --> 1:24:19.720
<v Speaker 6>Well I think it's because, like I said, I just

1:24:19.800 --> 1:24:22.400
<v Speaker 6>didn't know it was supposed to be hard. I didn't

1:24:22.439 --> 1:24:25.479
<v Speaker 6>know that people didn't do that, you know. And I

1:24:25.600 --> 1:24:27.920
<v Speaker 6>was always I was always the kid that was.

1:24:27.840 --> 1:24:31.200
<v Speaker 3>Really picked on. I was like severely severely bullied in

1:24:31.240 --> 1:24:34.920
<v Speaker 3>school to the point where I was like suicidal and stuff.

1:24:34.960 --> 1:24:37.120
<v Speaker 6>You know, like seventh and eighth grade years were the

1:24:37.160 --> 1:24:41.840
<v Speaker 6>worst for me. So I was always used to just

1:24:42.240 --> 1:24:47.320
<v Speaker 6>doing things differently, being different. I never worried, you know,

1:24:47.400 --> 1:24:50.320
<v Speaker 6>about what anybody else was going to think, because I

1:24:50.400 --> 1:24:51.839
<v Speaker 6>was just like everybody hates me anyway.

1:24:52.080 --> 1:24:54.920
<v Speaker 3>So it was like, I'll just do my own thing

1:24:55.439 --> 1:24:57.680
<v Speaker 3>and you know, see where it lands.

1:24:58.560 --> 1:25:01.439
<v Speaker 6>And so I never I think because of that, I

1:25:01.520 --> 1:25:06.640
<v Speaker 6>never worried about failure, because I never worried about what

1:25:06.680 --> 1:25:07.639
<v Speaker 6>other people were thinking.

1:25:08.280 --> 1:25:10.920
<v Speaker 2>You know, Yeah, that's kind of amazing.

1:25:11.920 --> 1:25:14.479
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I think I was able to sort of just

1:25:14.800 --> 1:25:17.840
<v Speaker 6>roll it into things that were more positive without even

1:25:17.920 --> 1:25:20.760
<v Speaker 6>realized that it was happening at the time. It wasn't

1:25:20.840 --> 1:25:23.400
<v Speaker 6>until much, many, many years later that I can look

1:25:23.439 --> 1:25:26.479
<v Speaker 6>back and analyze it and realize, oh, that's why I

1:25:26.560 --> 1:25:29.639
<v Speaker 6>did it because I just didn't know, you know, or

1:25:29.840 --> 1:25:31.920
<v Speaker 6>I just had a different attitude.

1:25:32.240 --> 1:25:34.320
<v Speaker 2>When you got that Maxim cover. Was it a big

1:25:34.439 --> 1:25:37.320
<v Speaker 2>like fuck you to everyone? Like was that cool?

1:25:38.800 --> 1:25:39.240
<v Speaker 3>Do you know?

1:25:39.640 --> 1:25:44.320
<v Speaker 6>It was kind of only because I got the Maxim cover,

1:25:44.360 --> 1:25:47.800
<v Speaker 6>because I was on Scorpion kick right well, when I

1:25:47.960 --> 1:25:52.320
<v Speaker 6>landed the cover, they did not want me to be

1:25:52.439 --> 1:25:56.679
<v Speaker 6>on the cover by myself. They had put two other

1:25:56.800 --> 1:26:00.960
<v Speaker 6>girls from the movie, a black girl and a blonde

1:26:00.960 --> 1:26:02.639
<v Speaker 6>girl on the cover.

1:26:02.520 --> 1:26:04.680
<v Speaker 3>With me, or they wanted to put them on the

1:26:04.720 --> 1:26:08.719
<v Speaker 3>cover with me, and I was like why, Like I'm

1:26:08.840 --> 1:26:10.839
<v Speaker 3>the only girl really in.

1:26:10.640 --> 1:26:12.519
<v Speaker 6>The movie, Like I didn't even know one of the

1:26:12.520 --> 1:26:14.960
<v Speaker 6>other girls I think didn't even have a speaking role,

1:26:16.200 --> 1:26:19.120
<v Speaker 6>but they wanted three of us on the cover as

1:26:19.120 --> 1:26:21.400
<v Speaker 6>sort of like a you know, like you know, there's

1:26:21.439 --> 1:26:23.880
<v Speaker 6>an Asian girl and a black girl and a blonde girl.

1:26:24.240 --> 1:26:26.720
<v Speaker 6>And I refused to share the cover with these other

1:26:26.760 --> 1:26:31.599
<v Speaker 6>two girls because their roles were so tiny, and I thought,

1:26:31.680 --> 1:26:38.320
<v Speaker 6>why wouldn't I not hold cover on my own? And they,

1:26:39.040 --> 1:26:43.240
<v Speaker 6>because Maxim was still sort of new ish, they were

1:26:43.280 --> 1:26:45.960
<v Speaker 6>afraid that if they put an Asian girl on the

1:26:46.000 --> 1:26:48.120
<v Speaker 6>cover by herself, that people would think it was an

1:26:48.160 --> 1:26:49.040
<v Speaker 6>Asian magazine.

1:26:49.120 --> 1:26:49.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

1:26:50.160 --> 1:26:54.880
<v Speaker 6>And so they were taking a chance by putting me

1:26:55.120 --> 1:26:58.840
<v Speaker 6>on the cover alone, and it ended up being there

1:27:00.200 --> 1:27:02.880
<v Speaker 6>highest selling magazine at that time.

1:27:03.479 --> 1:27:04.760
<v Speaker 2>So, you know, so crazy.

1:27:05.640 --> 1:27:07.920
<v Speaker 6>And it wasn't that I was like, you know, trying

1:27:07.960 --> 1:27:11.439
<v Speaker 6>to fight for you know, Asian women, or you know,

1:27:11.640 --> 1:27:13.760
<v Speaker 6>making any kind of point. I was just like, I

1:27:13.840 --> 1:27:18.040
<v Speaker 6>deserve this. This is not something that I should have

1:27:18.160 --> 1:27:20.559
<v Speaker 6>to share with anybody else otherwise I don't even want

1:27:20.560 --> 1:27:23.840
<v Speaker 6>to do it. And I think, you know, at that

1:27:23.920 --> 1:27:26.400
<v Speaker 6>point in my career, that's when I was trying. I

1:27:26.479 --> 1:27:30.679
<v Speaker 6>was understanding the power of no and being able.

1:27:30.479 --> 1:27:31.879
<v Speaker 3>To sort of stand up for yourself.

1:27:32.520 --> 1:27:35.320
<v Speaker 6>I think before that I was I always just felt

1:27:35.439 --> 1:27:39.080
<v Speaker 6>lucky for whatever I was handed. And I think it

1:27:39.160 --> 1:27:42.759
<v Speaker 6>was at that point in my career that I started

1:27:42.840 --> 1:27:45.439
<v Speaker 6>understanding that there was a power in saying, no.

1:27:46.960 --> 1:27:50.679
<v Speaker 2>Can we talk about viagra commercial? Are you down?

1:27:52.800 --> 1:27:55.240
<v Speaker 1>We obviously were doing research on you, and I was like, oh,

1:27:55.240 --> 1:27:56.479
<v Speaker 1>she was the face of Viagara.

1:27:56.479 --> 1:27:57.880
<v Speaker 2>And then we watched your spot and I was like,

1:27:58.160 --> 1:28:00.000
<v Speaker 2>I could see how this would work. I mean, you'll

1:28:00.000 --> 1:28:02.479
<v Speaker 2>look very good in the commercial. And it's just such

1:28:02.520 --> 1:28:04.839
<v Speaker 2>a compliment, right to be like, you are the human

1:28:04.960 --> 1:28:07.880
<v Speaker 2>version of Viagra. That's basically it.

1:28:09.160 --> 1:28:11.599
<v Speaker 6>Well, one of the reasons why I got the job

1:28:12.000 --> 1:28:13.120
<v Speaker 6>was because I.

1:28:13.120 --> 1:28:15.040
<v Speaker 3>Was over forty when they cast.

1:28:15.400 --> 1:28:18.280
<v Speaker 6>So all of the women in Viagra commercials have to

1:28:18.320 --> 1:28:21.799
<v Speaker 6>be over forty because they're marketing to men over forty.

1:28:21.880 --> 1:28:24.040
<v Speaker 6>So I guess, you know, it would just suck to

1:28:24.960 --> 1:28:29.120
<v Speaker 6>have them, you know, pick a twenty year old. Yeah, yeah,

1:28:29.560 --> 1:28:32.920
<v Speaker 6>But what they look for is they look for women

1:28:33.000 --> 1:28:37.599
<v Speaker 6>who are forty and over but look younger. So because

1:28:37.680 --> 1:28:41.200
<v Speaker 6>I look younger for my age, and it was just

1:28:41.280 --> 1:28:43.519
<v Speaker 6>out there all over the Internet that everybody could tell

1:28:43.560 --> 1:28:44.640
<v Speaker 6>that I was over forty.

1:28:44.400 --> 1:28:46.800
<v Speaker 3>At the time. I mean, That was basically why I

1:28:46.840 --> 1:28:47.439
<v Speaker 3>got hired.

1:28:48.200 --> 1:28:51.160
<v Speaker 2>I had a voice. You have a very sultry voice.

1:28:51.560 --> 1:28:55.240
<v Speaker 2>Oh I do, thank you well, not like talking to us,

1:28:55.280 --> 1:28:55.680
<v Speaker 2>but in the.

1:28:55.720 --> 1:28:59.840
<v Speaker 1>Right commercials yes, yeah, yeah, you're not suggesting us right now.

1:29:00.360 --> 1:29:02.280
<v Speaker 2>When you're trying to it works.

1:29:02.320 --> 1:29:08.360
<v Speaker 6>But doing this commercial, it's they it was so challenging.

1:29:08.720 --> 1:29:10.800
<v Speaker 6>I only had like six lines of dialogue in the

1:29:10.920 --> 1:29:15.840
<v Speaker 6>entire commercial, right, but everything has to be so specific.

1:29:16.000 --> 1:29:18.640
<v Speaker 6>I must have read the first line one hundred and

1:29:18.680 --> 1:29:22.800
<v Speaker 6>fifty times in order to get the exact tone that

1:29:22.840 --> 1:29:26.120
<v Speaker 6>they wanted because they they don't want it to sound

1:29:26.160 --> 1:29:28.880
<v Speaker 6>too sexy. They don't want it to sound too clinical,

1:29:29.160 --> 1:29:31.920
<v Speaker 6>they don't want it to sound too friendly. They I mean,

1:29:32.080 --> 1:29:35.040
<v Speaker 6>you know, it's the tone has to be so like

1:29:35.680 --> 1:29:40.800
<v Speaker 6>razor sharp on point that it's really frustrating as an

1:29:40.840 --> 1:29:44.320
<v Speaker 6>actor when they're like, you know, trying to get you

1:29:44.400 --> 1:29:48.680
<v Speaker 6>to the right place because it's just like minuscule, you know,

1:29:48.800 --> 1:29:53.160
<v Speaker 6>little movements and things like you know, you're laying on

1:29:53.200 --> 1:29:56.400
<v Speaker 6>the bed, but you're not allowed to have your two

1:29:56.439 --> 1:29:57.200
<v Speaker 6>feet up.

1:29:57.160 --> 1:30:00.400
<v Speaker 3>You know, like like up in the air because that.

1:30:00.360 --> 1:30:04.000
<v Speaker 6>Could look like an erection, or you know, you could

1:30:04.000 --> 1:30:07.599
<v Speaker 6>have maybe one foot up in the air, or you know,

1:30:07.760 --> 1:30:10.839
<v Speaker 6>you're holding flowers and maybe one of the flowers is drooping.

1:30:10.880 --> 1:30:12.680
<v Speaker 3>They're like, nope, we can't have flowers.

1:30:12.800 --> 1:30:18.080
<v Speaker 6>You know, it's like everything is you know, a metaphor

1:30:18.320 --> 1:30:21.320
<v Speaker 6>for penis, you know, a rectile dysfunction.

1:30:21.960 --> 1:30:26.519
<v Speaker 3>So it's like like things like a piece of hair.

1:30:26.800 --> 1:30:28.360
<v Speaker 3>You know, it's it's ridiculous.

1:30:28.439 --> 1:30:33.200
<v Speaker 6>It's ridiculous, how like specific they have to get.

1:30:34.840 --> 1:30:37.720
<v Speaker 2>Kelly is my idol. I'm just love her.

1:30:37.800 --> 1:30:40.760
<v Speaker 1>I was very impressed by the things she did when

1:30:40.800 --> 1:30:43.360
<v Speaker 1>she didn't know how things.

1:30:43.160 --> 1:30:47.000
<v Speaker 2>Work in Hollywood. I mean, she fucking got it done. No,

1:30:47.120 --> 1:30:49.559
<v Speaker 2>it's awesome. And I always think about this when someone

1:30:49.640 --> 1:30:52.479
<v Speaker 2>tries to like dem your fire and they're like, well

1:30:52.520 --> 1:30:54.760
<v Speaker 2>this person did it this way, like you got to

1:30:54.800 --> 1:30:56.720
<v Speaker 2>do it this way, and it's like, no, everyone that

1:30:56.760 --> 1:30:59.519
<v Speaker 2>we respect and love did their own thing, like stop

1:30:59.600 --> 1:31:02.799
<v Speaker 2>trying to follow the rules step forth by other people,

1:31:02.840 --> 1:31:05.240
<v Speaker 2>like do whatever the fuck you want. Yeah, Because I

1:31:05.240 --> 1:31:07.360
<v Speaker 2>remember at one of my first open mics, this guy

1:31:07.439 --> 1:31:09.519
<v Speaker 2>I was telling this guy goes, yeah, so I do

1:31:09.600 --> 1:31:11.000
<v Speaker 2>my jokes and there's four minutes and I try to

1:31:11.000 --> 1:31:13.200
<v Speaker 2>put it and he goes, yeah, that's weird. No one

1:31:13.240 --> 1:31:15.000
<v Speaker 2>does it that way. And then I saw him on

1:31:15.040 --> 1:31:17.400
<v Speaker 2>stage and he bombed so bad and was terrible and

1:31:17.479 --> 1:31:20.280
<v Speaker 2>has never done comedy again. And I was like, someone

1:31:20.280 --> 1:31:22.840
<v Speaker 2>could have listened to this man's advice. Oh, I guess

1:31:22.880 --> 1:31:24.559
<v Speaker 2>no one does it this way. I have to do

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<v Speaker 2>it this way. And it's like, don't listen to anyone.

1:31:27.479 --> 1:31:29.920
<v Speaker 2>If be a Kelly Who in the world, you know, yes,

1:31:30.600 --> 1:31:34.920
<v Speaker 2>be a Who, and to fight for her that cover

1:31:35.040 --> 1:31:36.920
<v Speaker 2>and be like, you know what, go fuck yourself. I

1:31:36.960 --> 1:31:40.120
<v Speaker 2>want that cover. I want it. I know it's badass.

1:31:40.160 --> 1:31:45.160
<v Speaker 2>People sometimes get bullied by cool opportunities to succumb to shit,

1:31:45.280 --> 1:31:47.200
<v Speaker 2>but it's like, follow your gut, do it. Like I

1:31:47.200 --> 1:31:47.600
<v Speaker 2>don't want to.

1:31:47.600 --> 1:31:49.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to not get the cover at all,

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<v Speaker 1>so I might as well just like do what they

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<v Speaker 1>tell me.

1:31:51.120 --> 1:31:54.320
<v Speaker 2>It's like or tell them to do what you tell them,

1:31:54.600 --> 1:31:58.240
<v Speaker 2>you know absolutely. Also, if a man is where it

1:31:58.360 --> 1:32:01.679
<v Speaker 2>has gel in their hair, they're danger don't talk to them.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, wait anywhere, So now we're getting into the post mortem,

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<v Speaker 1>let's discuss what we learn. It's if a man dresses

1:32:08.320 --> 1:32:11.360
<v Speaker 1>like they're wearing Express for Men button downs and have

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<v Speaker 1>gel in their hair. Yeah, okay, question for you, Lisa,

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<v Speaker 1>You're at an airport bar, you are about to board

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<v Speaker 1>a flight to somewhere international. Okay, you're at a bar,

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<v Speaker 1>you meet somebody so hot and cool that you leave

1:32:25.280 --> 1:32:28.280
<v Speaker 1>the airport with them. And now we're assuming that scopolamine

1:32:28.320 --> 1:32:30.280
<v Speaker 1>has not been used. You're doing this of your own

1:32:30.280 --> 1:32:34.840
<v Speaker 1>free will, evolition. Who is this person? Like Miley? But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure if we fly private, right, So in this

1:32:40.920 --> 1:32:44.120
<v Speaker 1>hypothetical situation, the logistics are completely fucked because like, we

1:32:44.160 --> 1:32:46.200
<v Speaker 1>would never be at like Terminal one a JFK.

1:32:46.400 --> 1:32:49.400
<v Speaker 2>Okay, now, I like, who would be hot enough? No,

1:32:49.560 --> 1:32:51.439
<v Speaker 2>I would never not because I'm assuming them if I'm

1:32:51.479 --> 1:32:55.880
<v Speaker 2>flying internationalists for work or vacation or to see a friend,

1:32:55.960 --> 1:32:58.439
<v Speaker 2>there's no right, no way. Yeah, I would try to

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<v Speaker 2>make out there like change and there's no There's no

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<v Speaker 2>way in hell I would not get on that flight,

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<v Speaker 2>right unless I felt very final destination vibes where the

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<v Speaker 2>universe was like my gut was saying like, don't get

1:33:09.720 --> 1:33:13.160
<v Speaker 2>on that. Yeah, and then even that Also, I don't

1:33:13.200 --> 1:33:16.600
<v Speaker 2>mean to brag, but me and Devin Sala do interact

1:33:16.600 --> 1:33:22.120
<v Speaker 2>on Twitter kind of often, and it's really it's so cool.

1:33:24.160 --> 1:33:26.320
<v Speaker 2>Oh he's in Final Destination. I was like, where did

1:33:26.360 --> 1:33:32.080
<v Speaker 2>this come from? I'm just bragging for news. No, he

1:33:32.120 --> 1:33:35.280
<v Speaker 2>knows who I am, but I just started responding to

1:33:35.320 --> 1:33:38.120
<v Speaker 2>everything he does on Twitter. And then now he responds

1:33:38.120 --> 1:33:39.559
<v Speaker 2>and he's like, yeah, that was a good one. And

1:33:39.560 --> 1:33:42.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, what the fuck is the earth? What is

1:33:42.240 --> 1:33:44.759
<v Speaker 2>the Internet? What is the allure of Twitter?

1:33:44.840 --> 1:33:47.799
<v Speaker 1>Twitter is such a garbage like hellscape, But the allure

1:33:47.920 --> 1:33:49.439
<v Speaker 1>is that you might be able to just talk to

1:33:49.479 --> 1:33:50.080
<v Speaker 1>a guy you.

1:33:50.000 --> 1:33:52.160
<v Speaker 2>Had like a total crush on when you were twelve.

1:33:52.280 --> 1:33:54.800
<v Speaker 2>You know, wait, who are you leaving the airport with.

1:33:55.560 --> 1:33:56.839
<v Speaker 2>I'm with you, Like, there's.

1:33:56.680 --> 1:33:58.880
<v Speaker 1>Almost nobody that I would be like, you know what,

1:33:59.080 --> 1:34:03.360
<v Speaker 1>fuck it, let's go just to hook up instead of

1:34:03.360 --> 1:34:05.680
<v Speaker 1>me getting on my flight. I just like traveling too much,

1:34:05.720 --> 1:34:08.000
<v Speaker 1>and you know, I hate to rebook. I would never

1:34:08.120 --> 1:34:12.000
<v Speaker 1>do a two hundred dollars change fee for for I

1:34:12.000 --> 1:34:12.360
<v Speaker 1>don't know.

1:34:12.400 --> 1:34:14.360
<v Speaker 2>But who would it be? I don't know, I don't know.

1:34:14.680 --> 1:34:16.280
<v Speaker 2>Well I do want to say so one time I

1:34:16.360 --> 1:34:21.439
<v Speaker 2>was flying Southwest with my friend to LA and she

1:34:21.479 --> 1:34:23.720
<v Speaker 2>went to the bathroom and then this guy started talking

1:34:23.760 --> 1:34:25.240
<v Speaker 2>and then she's like, I came back and you were

1:34:25.240 --> 1:34:28.080
<v Speaker 2>friends with everybody how did this happen? I have no idea,

1:34:28.640 --> 1:34:31.000
<v Speaker 2>but there was a guy and he was a cello player,

1:34:31.240 --> 1:34:33.080
<v Speaker 2>and we hit it off and then we met at

1:34:33.080 --> 1:34:35.719
<v Speaker 2>the Saddle Ranch and then we did hook up that night. Yeah,

1:34:35.760 --> 1:34:36.880
<v Speaker 2>that's how you do it.

1:34:37.320 --> 1:34:39.240
<v Speaker 1>The Seven Ranch, Oh my god, I used to live

1:34:39.320 --> 1:34:40.719
<v Speaker 1>right around the corner from there.

1:34:41.680 --> 1:34:43.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he was like this cool ass cello player. But

1:34:43.800 --> 1:34:45.280
<v Speaker 2>now in hindsight, like I don't know if he lied

1:34:45.280 --> 1:34:47.120
<v Speaker 2>to me or not, but he made it seem that

1:34:47.160 --> 1:34:49.680
<v Speaker 2>he played the cello for jay Z and that he

1:34:49.760 --> 1:34:51.880
<v Speaker 2>had been to Prince's house. Did you hook up with

1:34:52.000 --> 1:34:53.599
<v Speaker 2>Yo Yoma? No?

1:34:53.680 --> 1:34:53.960
<v Speaker 3>He was.

1:34:55.479 --> 1:34:58.040
<v Speaker 2>Like a cool ass dude. If anyone has ever heard

1:34:58.040 --> 1:35:00.799
<v Speaker 2>the story in their lives and know this cello player,

1:35:00.960 --> 1:35:05.160
<v Speaker 2>please tell them what's up? Still thinking about you? When

1:35:05.200 --> 1:35:08.920
<v Speaker 2>I was in my airport outfit so like like I

1:35:09.080 --> 1:35:12.120
<v Speaker 2>was dressed like a lunatic and I couldn't believe my luck,

1:35:12.320 --> 1:35:14.720
<v Speaker 2>Like I just couldn't believe it. So and because my

1:35:14.720 --> 1:35:17.800
<v Speaker 2>friend had a really great blowout too, so I was like, okay, you,

1:35:17.880 --> 1:35:19.920
<v Speaker 2>oh you were ready. But yeah, no, I'm not leaving

1:35:19.960 --> 1:35:22.040
<v Speaker 2>with anyone, especially if I have all these diamonds. But

1:35:22.080 --> 1:35:26.160
<v Speaker 2>obviously Kelly was drugged. So it's fucking different, right of course,

1:35:26.240 --> 1:35:27.160
<v Speaker 2>And there's not that much.

1:35:27.200 --> 1:35:29.400
<v Speaker 1>I feel like this episode is a little bit more,

1:35:31.400 --> 1:35:35.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, not as commonplace in terms of like what

1:35:36.120 --> 1:35:39.120
<v Speaker 1>like what I'm learning, Like, obviously, watch your drink.

1:35:39.160 --> 1:35:41.559
<v Speaker 2>Everybody watches or drink. But I'm not trying to victim blame.

1:35:41.600 --> 1:35:43.240
<v Speaker 1>You know, she went to like pick something up off

1:35:43.280 --> 1:35:47.520
<v Speaker 1>the ground and this guy brazenly put a fucking Colombian

1:35:47.600 --> 1:35:51.160
<v Speaker 1>rape drug in her drink. So that's not you know,

1:35:51.320 --> 1:35:54.120
<v Speaker 1>nothing to blame her. But I guess, don't buy a

1:35:54.200 --> 1:35:57.559
<v Speaker 1>huge dog if you have a toddler and a new baby,

1:35:57.640 --> 1:35:59.320
<v Speaker 1>and don't take them out on walks together.

1:35:59.439 --> 1:36:01.880
<v Speaker 2>I hate that. I hated that whole part. You do

1:36:02.040 --> 1:36:05.960
<v Speaker 2>not give a kid a leash? Yeah, what is what

1:36:06.080 --> 1:36:07.160
<v Speaker 2>is going on? Yeah?

1:36:07.200 --> 1:36:09.080
<v Speaker 1>And like I get I guess if you are the

1:36:09.160 --> 1:36:12.759
<v Speaker 1>kind of person who gets a boner from sexually assaulting people,

1:36:12.800 --> 1:36:15.240
<v Speaker 1>don't stand up on the stand because everyone's going to

1:36:15.320 --> 1:36:19.240
<v Speaker 1>see your raging heart on for your own handiwork.

1:36:19.080 --> 1:36:21.400
<v Speaker 2>And we learned that Melinda knows everything. I mean, one

1:36:21.439 --> 1:36:23.679
<v Speaker 2>little clue she goes it's capolla. I mean, I mean,

1:36:23.920 --> 1:36:25.680
<v Speaker 2>she's like you mentioned Colombia.

1:36:25.720 --> 1:36:28.040
<v Speaker 1>I happen to know all the drugs specific to all

1:36:28.080 --> 1:36:29.479
<v Speaker 1>of the South American regions.

1:36:29.520 --> 1:36:32.280
<v Speaker 2>She is a wonder. I think the lesson there is

1:36:32.280 --> 1:36:35.719
<v Speaker 2>always pay attention. You know, there's clues everywhere. There's little

1:36:35.720 --> 1:36:36.719
<v Speaker 2>tweets everywhere.

1:36:36.840 --> 1:36:38.960
<v Speaker 1>She found glitter on somebody one time and she goes

1:36:39.000 --> 1:36:41.400
<v Speaker 1>booty dust. That's my favorite Melinda Warner moment.

1:36:41.560 --> 1:36:43.519
<v Speaker 2>We talked about it with Diane Neil a little bit,

1:36:44.280 --> 1:36:44.519
<v Speaker 2>we did.

1:36:44.600 --> 1:36:46.680
<v Speaker 1>We talked about booty dust, all right, Yeah, yeah, she

1:36:47.320 --> 1:36:47.880
<v Speaker 1>loved it too.

1:36:47.920 --> 1:36:50.519
<v Speaker 2>That's one of her favorite moments. Either. I actually I

1:36:50.600 --> 1:36:52.880
<v Speaker 2>brought glitter to the garage sale. No one bought any

1:36:52.920 --> 1:36:55.639
<v Speaker 2>glitter from me, but I did say to our friend Lauren,

1:36:55.720 --> 1:36:58.080
<v Speaker 2>I go, if you're ever mean to me, I will

1:36:58.080 --> 1:37:01.519
<v Speaker 2>give your daughter a glitter. I go. Now I have

1:37:01.600 --> 1:37:04.320
<v Speaker 2>this giant container, so you better watch your back. Or

1:37:04.360 --> 1:37:07.679
<v Speaker 2>Francis is getting this jug of glitter. Just to follow up.

1:37:07.560 --> 1:37:09.320
<v Speaker 1>To the bag of googly eyes you gave her a

1:37:09.320 --> 1:37:10.200
<v Speaker 1>couple of years ago.

1:37:13.479 --> 1:37:15.599
<v Speaker 2>Google eyes is a great gift if you know someone

1:37:15.600 --> 1:37:17.760
<v Speaker 2>that's a little silly, a bag of Google eyes goes

1:37:17.800 --> 1:37:19.240
<v Speaker 2>a long way. Yeah.

1:37:19.280 --> 1:37:21.880
<v Speaker 1>And also I would say, also, something I've learned from

1:37:21.920 --> 1:37:25.519
<v Speaker 1>this is like look, I don't think Benson ever deserves

1:37:25.560 --> 1:37:26.360
<v Speaker 1>to get slapped.

1:37:26.520 --> 1:37:33.360
<v Speaker 2>She had to report the dolphin rape video. I'll say,

1:37:33.400 --> 1:37:37.280
<v Speaker 2>oh yeah, fuck stabler. If someone doesn't remember their attack,

1:37:37.520 --> 1:37:41.519
<v Speaker 2>leave them alone, right, leave them alone. I do not

1:37:41.680 --> 1:37:44.800
<v Speaker 2>believe it. That was a really wrong moment. That was

1:37:44.920 --> 1:37:47.400
<v Speaker 2>like messed up. Oh do you know? You know what?

1:37:47.520 --> 1:37:51.280
<v Speaker 1>I was just listening to my favorite murderer, an old one,

1:37:51.560 --> 1:37:54.879
<v Speaker 1>and they were talking about how in the Carla Hamolka

1:37:54.960 --> 1:37:58.320
<v Speaker 1>Paul Bernardo thing, they were drugging girls too, and a

1:37:58.360 --> 1:38:00.360
<v Speaker 1>lot of the girls never knew that they were tacked

1:38:00.439 --> 1:38:04.679
<v Speaker 1>until they found the videos. It's very similar to this, Wow,

1:38:04.840 --> 1:38:07.519
<v Speaker 1>isn't that crazy? And like then they saw what happened

1:38:07.560 --> 1:38:08.799
<v Speaker 1>to them terrible.

1:38:09.000 --> 1:38:11.519
<v Speaker 2>I would say no thanks, I'd say I don't need

1:38:11.560 --> 1:38:13.599
<v Speaker 2>to see this and go fuck yourself. And what's your

1:38:13.600 --> 1:38:16.360
<v Speaker 2>badge number? That's what I would say. They say, we're

1:38:16.360 --> 1:38:19.639
<v Speaker 2>going to be doing something. And then from the real

1:38:19.680 --> 1:38:22.599
<v Speaker 2>life case, if you're really rich, you should raise your

1:38:22.680 --> 1:38:27.719
<v Speaker 2>kids like your poor so they develop better personalities. Yeah. Yeah,

1:38:27.880 --> 1:38:30.040
<v Speaker 2>Like if I even if I was like super super,

1:38:30.280 --> 1:38:32.799
<v Speaker 2>I would pretend that we didn't have money. I would

1:38:32.840 --> 1:38:35.360
<v Speaker 2>just be like, I don't know if we can afford it.

1:38:35.520 --> 1:38:38.719
<v Speaker 2>Just so these kids aren't like Max factoring, running around

1:38:38.760 --> 1:38:42.200
<v Speaker 2>like lunatics. Max factoring. That's the new verb for acting

1:38:42.240 --> 1:38:47.639
<v Speaker 2>like a spoiled asshole. Yeah, Max factoring about town all right?

1:38:47.920 --> 1:38:51.479
<v Speaker 1>Well, as usual, a seamless segue into our next segment,

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<v Speaker 1>What would Sister Peg Do WWSPD our weekly segment where

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<v Speaker 1>we direct you towards resources, articles, organizations that can help

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<v Speaker 1>flesh out the topic that we touched a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>on today's episode. This week, we are highlighting the organization

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<v Speaker 1>No More, which is dedicated to ending domestic violence and

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<v Speaker 1>sexual assault by increasing awareness, inspiring action, and fueling culture change.

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<v Speaker 1>You can find out more about them at www dot

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<v Speaker 2>And next week's episode will be Head Season five, episode

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five. Such a good one. Head is a classic. Honestly, Kara,

1:39:27.600 --> 1:39:29.559
<v Speaker 2>I would say, you've been trying to do heads since

1:39:29.640 --> 1:39:32.360
<v Speaker 2>day one. Yeah, you've been talking about this since the

1:39:32.600 --> 1:39:38.000
<v Speaker 2>start our first meetings together. And you know there you

1:39:38.040 --> 1:39:42.960
<v Speaker 2>can always watch SVU on our enemy Hulu or Peacock

1:39:43.560 --> 1:39:47.280
<v Speaker 2>or you know your local library do all the cool yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>all the cool things. And we're so lucky you're watching.

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<v Speaker 2>can meet all of you guys all over. So if

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