WEBVTT - OG Parker 0:00:01.920 --> 0:00:04.960 R and B Money. 0:00:05.519 --> 0:00:06.120 We are. 0:00:07.640 --> 0:00:15.600 Thanks take We are the authority on all things R 0:00:15.680 --> 0:00:20.919 and B. Ladies and gentlemen. My name is Tank and 0:00:21.079 --> 0:00:22.920 this is the Army Money Podcast. 0:00:23.040 --> 0:00:27.520 Come on, the authority on all things R and B. Yeah, 0:00:27.560 --> 0:00:28.480 you better produce you right? 0:00:28.840 --> 0:00:29.360 Are you? 0:00:29.360 --> 0:00:29.600 Can? 0:00:29.680 --> 0:00:31.280 You can? 0:00:31.360 --> 0:00:31.600 You? 0:00:31.560 --> 0:00:32.760 You're walking like you talking? 0:00:33.560 --> 0:00:37.200 That's here, No, a whole lot of them record. 0:00:37.479 --> 0:00:42.040 Yeah, I've been blessed to to to work this young man. 0:00:42.320 --> 0:00:42.520 Yeah. 0:00:42.640 --> 0:00:46.599 Uh now I'm finally seeing his face right here, sit 0:00:46.760 --> 0:00:49.360 ten ft away in the building. 0:00:49.520 --> 0:00:54.480 Yes, now, I appreciate that. I appreciate that. 0:00:54.600 --> 0:00:55.400 Come on ahead of. 0:00:55.400 --> 0:00:58.080 The flesh deck. 0:00:58.480 --> 0:01:00.720 Come on, he must to talk to ship at the time. 0:01:00.800 --> 0:01:09.280 Up on tequila, Come on, it get different. Heymen, told 0:01:09.319 --> 0:01:10.000 you where you're from? 0:01:10.720 --> 0:01:13.760 Born and raised in Atlanta, Georgia, born and raised. Yes, sir, 0:01:14.000 --> 0:01:14.959 how old are you man? 0:01:15.120 --> 0:01:15.840 I'm thirty one. 0:01:16.040 --> 0:01:16.840 You're thirty one. 0:01:17.000 --> 0:01:18.560 I just turned thirty one last week. 0:01:18.640 --> 0:01:22.920 You look sixteen? He was sixteen practically. 0:01:23.360 --> 0:01:26.520 Yeah, you young fellas you boy? 0:01:26.600 --> 0:01:30.959 You on my young talent the big. 0:01:32.319 --> 0:01:38.440 And first of all, thank you, because I had big 0:01:38.560 --> 0:01:43.160 dreams for that remix. Oh, I had the biggest dreams. 0:01:43.520 --> 0:01:44.319 I needed that too. 0:01:44.400 --> 0:01:48.240 Hey, I had the video laid out at the casino. 0:01:48.520 --> 0:01:53.360 Roy yall, I had all that ran out of budget, man, 0:01:58.720 --> 0:02:00.560 after I paid for the song man. 0:02:02.440 --> 0:02:08.040 A budget, Yeah, I know how to ship go. 0:02:08.280 --> 0:02:09.120 Budget was gone. 0:02:09.160 --> 0:02:09.320 Man. 0:02:09.440 --> 0:02:13.360 So so thank you, uh dirty remix, Thank you for 0:02:13.440 --> 0:02:16.600 the for the Dirty Remix, and and and and next. 0:02:16.680 --> 0:02:20.960 The next record you give me it will have to 0:02:21.000 --> 0:02:23.320 fix it, will have a movement, have fixing fix. 0:02:27.440 --> 0:02:28.880 We need the video. I needed to be in the video. 0:02:29.560 --> 0:02:30.560 I got you, I got you. 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:33.880 Every time one of your songs has the fixings on it. 0:02:34.280 --> 0:02:35.560 Ship go it's here. 0:02:36.040 --> 0:02:36.720 I appreciate that. 0:02:37.080 --> 0:02:39.959 So I have to I gotta, I gotta be part 0:02:40.000 --> 0:02:41.280 of that. Thank you, brother. 0:02:41.600 --> 0:02:42.200 I appreciate you. 0:02:42.760 --> 0:02:42.959 Man. 0:02:43.000 --> 0:02:44.360 You know, I know we all the way out here 0:02:44.400 --> 0:02:47.160 in l A. And I know that trip for you 0:02:47.280 --> 0:02:50.320 is not an easy one. And we appreciate you giving 0:02:50.400 --> 0:02:54.160 us your time so that we can talk through, talk 0:02:54.240 --> 0:02:54.760 through a lot of. 0:02:54.720 --> 0:02:55.519 This work that you've done. 0:02:55.560 --> 0:02:58.399 My brother, I appreciate it. Yeah, let's be here. Let's 0:02:58.440 --> 0:03:03.960 start at the beginning. Man, growing up in atl where 0:03:03.960 --> 0:03:07.040 does your journey, where does your musical journey begin? 0:03:09.120 --> 0:03:13.840 So my grandfather, he taught piano in music at Morehouse College. 0:03:14.200 --> 0:03:16.400 Wow. Yeah, and he played in the church. 0:03:17.240 --> 0:03:21.280 So when I was like eight, he was like he 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:23.480 really made like all of us learn the basics of piano, 0:03:23.760 --> 0:03:25.639 and then he made us all pick an instrument. 0:03:26.200 --> 0:03:27.400 So I picked the saxophone. 0:03:27.440 --> 0:03:29.799 So I was in the band, marching band all that, 0:03:30.440 --> 0:03:33.000 and then I changed to the Uh. Then I always 0:03:33.000 --> 0:03:35.240 tell Nick when drum line came out, I was like, 0:03:35.280 --> 0:03:36.200 oh no, no more. 0:03:37.320 --> 0:03:40.200 He was yeah. So then I joined. You know what 0:03:40.200 --> 0:03:45.200 I'm saying, I played sna get the girls. I was like, yeah, 0:03:45.360 --> 0:03:46.080 I'm going that way. 0:03:47.040 --> 0:03:48.880 Yeah, So I did all throughout high school I did 0:03:49.280 --> 0:03:52.280 snare and then one year I played drum set and 0:03:52.320 --> 0:03:54.720 then you know, just was always in love with music 0:03:55.480 --> 0:03:57.480 and it was just always making beats. I probably start 0:03:57.480 --> 0:04:00.920 making beats about tenth grade, so about two thousand him. 0:04:00.760 --> 0:04:03.000 What were you making? Your what were you making? What 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:04.880 made you want to make beats? 0:04:06.080 --> 0:04:08.320 I just knew I wanted to be in music, and like, 0:04:08.960 --> 0:04:11.720 you know, they make you go to them job fairs 0:04:11.720 --> 0:04:13.440 and stuff, and like I was just looking around and 0:04:13.480 --> 0:04:16.120 I was just like, I don't want to go to 0:04:16.120 --> 0:04:18.120 the Army of the Navy, don't want to do this 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:19.720 that want to be a chef, Like I don't want 0:04:19.720 --> 0:04:20.240 to do none of this. 0:04:20.320 --> 0:04:21.920 And I was just like, I just want to make music. 0:04:22.400 --> 0:04:25.120 So I was just like, it's really either be a 0:04:25.120 --> 0:04:28.200 band director or a music teacher, or be a music producer. 0:04:28.240 --> 0:04:29.960 I feel like those are really like the only avenues. 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:32.039 So I was like, I'm going to be a music producer. 0:04:32.080 --> 0:04:34.479 So my homie gave me f L Studio on the 0:04:34.480 --> 0:04:37.080 flash drive, and I don't think I ever stopped. 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:38.760 I probably made beats every day since. 0:04:38.800 --> 0:04:39.040 Now. 0:04:39.320 --> 0:04:44.599 See that's like I'm just comparing it to to you know, 0:04:45.160 --> 0:04:48.520 an analog you know, new digital guys, would you go 0:04:48.600 --> 0:04:53.680 to hand you a production interface on you know, with. 0:04:53.720 --> 0:04:55.600 Everything you need you need right? 0:04:56.080 --> 0:05:01.039 And I remember dreaming as a child, a kid, young kid, 0:05:02.000 --> 0:05:05.200 like looking at the NPC sixty like, man, I want 0:05:05.240 --> 0:05:08.000 one of those. My guys had an SP twelve. I 0:05:08.040 --> 0:05:10.560 was like, are you doing that? How are you making 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:12.279 the I want one of those? 0:05:12.720 --> 0:05:13.839 They were expensive making. 0:05:14.160 --> 0:05:16.640 Yeah, expensively yeah for what you gotta. 0:05:16.440 --> 0:05:20.480 Think one thousand absolutely, So imagine seeing that at fifteen, 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:22.360 sixteen years old, You're like, man, I don't what the 0:05:22.400 --> 0:05:23.800 fuck am I get impossible? 0:05:23.880 --> 0:05:26.840 Yeah, I'm making twenty five dollars a Sunday at church 0:05:27.480 --> 0:05:30.040 playing for the choir I have. I don't see two 0:05:30.120 --> 0:05:33.360 thousand dollars nowhere. 0:05:34.040 --> 0:05:35.640 That's how much they pay. I thought they paid more 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:35.880 than that. 0:05:36.040 --> 0:05:38.680 Now they do, But that back then, they was getting 0:05:38.720 --> 0:05:40.520 me with the Jesus thing. You know what I'm saying. 0:05:41.720 --> 0:05:43.400 You know, you're doing this for the Lord. You know, 0:05:43.960 --> 0:05:46.640 the Lord ain't got no money? Like what Lord are 0:05:46.680 --> 0:05:48.719 we serving? I heard they got streets of gold up there, 0:05:48.760 --> 0:05:50.640 like give me a brick, magg Like. 0:05:53.520 --> 0:05:54.440 This is crazy. 0:05:54.720 --> 0:05:57.840 So looking at that equipment back then, and looking at 0:05:57.880 --> 0:06:03.880 the keyboards that was thirteen fifteen hundred, I'll never get there. 0:06:04.160 --> 0:06:07.159 And you know it worked out to where, you know, 0:06:07.160 --> 0:06:09.120 I finally get a little deal. And the first thing 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:12.880 I went to do is buy my equipment. I'm talking 0:06:12.880 --> 0:06:17.440 about a mac a thirty two channel Mackie board, NPC 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:21.520 three thousand, XP eighty and I had my TV on 0:06:21.600 --> 0:06:23.680 top and I got it all plugged in and my 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:27.800 Mama's unfinished basement and I'm making beats down. 0:06:27.600 --> 0:06:28.400 There, you know what I'm saying. 0:06:28.600 --> 0:06:32.480 And you just told me a guy handed you fl 0:06:32.720 --> 0:06:33.720 on a flash. 0:06:33.440 --> 0:06:37.000 Drive, right, And then I begged my parents to buy 0:06:37.000 --> 0:06:38.960 me some speakers, and then a little you know, a 0:06:39.040 --> 0:06:40.880 little forty nine key. 0:06:41.560 --> 0:06:44.360 Little forty nine y and you were in business. 0:06:44.520 --> 0:06:48.520 That's all I need my laptop half a school and 0:06:48.560 --> 0:06:50.840 I just used to be making beats as soon as 0:06:50.839 --> 0:06:53.000 I got home, just making beats all night. 0:06:53.760 --> 0:06:59.920 And when you first started making beats, who were you 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:01.359 trying to be as a producer? 0:07:02.520 --> 0:07:02.760 For real? 0:07:04.440 --> 0:07:08.000 Everybody have the everybody got their person, got their person. 0:07:08.120 --> 0:07:09.440 Yeah, mom was timbling. 0:07:10.120 --> 0:07:12.000 It was really both. I ain't gonna care it was both, 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:12.560 you know what I'm saying. 0:07:12.560 --> 0:07:16.880 It's so different, it's different, but like those were definitely 0:07:16.920 --> 0:07:19.320 like two of my favorite for reals. 0:07:19.720 --> 0:07:22.720 He just had a you shooting for the star, right, 0:07:23.920 --> 0:07:32.480 And so did you know anybody? No, not really, even 0:07:32.560 --> 0:07:35.120 being from Atlanta, you had never come across nobody that 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:38.200 you know, like, Okay, the homie brother is such and such. 0:07:38.120 --> 0:07:41.400 Producer, you know what I mean? Yeah, so, my it's crazy. 0:07:41.480 --> 0:07:44.960 Like one of my producers that I signed, now, he 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:47.520 was my best friend in high school and his dad's 0:07:47.560 --> 0:07:48.120 mister DJ. 0:07:48.640 --> 0:07:50.640 You know he did like bombs over that back. 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:51.440 Yeah. 0:07:52.320 --> 0:07:53.840 Yeah, so we used to go over to his house. 0:07:54.320 --> 0:07:55.320 But you can ask him now. 0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:57.080 He never took a serious like he used to let 0:07:57.120 --> 0:07:59.160 us see the studio and like show us his Grammys 0:07:59.200 --> 0:07:59.760 and ship. 0:08:01.120 --> 0:08:02.480 Paying that ship in no mind, we used to be 0:08:02.520 --> 0:08:03.080 in that motherfucker. 0:08:03.080 --> 0:08:07.520 He used to be like, don't break my fucking computer. Right, yeah, 0:08:07.560 --> 0:08:09.280 we just in there. We're making noise to him, like 0:08:09.320 --> 0:08:11.600 he like, man, you know what I'm saying. Like now 0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:14.160 he takes a serious now, but like you know, back then, 0:08:14.200 --> 0:08:16.160 he was just like, look, y'all can work in here, 0:08:16.200 --> 0:08:17.560 but like, don't fuck my ship up. 0:08:18.480 --> 0:08:22.760 But he gave y'all a really cool space. 0:08:22.800 --> 0:08:26.360 Because I can imagine if he him, he's got a 0:08:26.440 --> 0:08:27.239 proper setup. 0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:32.200 Man, he just has every record on Earth just in 0:08:32.320 --> 0:08:36.080 bookshelves and just you know, he'd be sampling and doing 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:37.520 all you know what I'm saying. He did all them 0:08:37.559 --> 0:08:39.800 crazy outcast songs, and he just used to tell us 0:08:39.840 --> 0:08:42.560 a lot of stories. And then just seeing the Grammy, 0:08:42.920 --> 0:08:45.920 like I was like, oh, yeah, this is what I'm doing. 0:08:46.480 --> 0:08:50.240 So it felt real to you, It felt it felt attainable, Yeah, 0:08:50.280 --> 0:08:52.640 for sure, Because you know that's why that's why I asked, 0:08:52.640 --> 0:08:54.080 you know, I mean, because some people come from places 0:08:54.080 --> 0:08:57.120 where they don't know anybody, or they come from a 0:08:57.120 --> 0:09:00.280 city where nobody from their city ever cracked off like that, right, 0:09:00.280 --> 0:09:02.959 But being from a place like Atlanta, obviously that's why 0:09:02.960 --> 0:09:05.440 I'm like, was there somebody, you know what I mean? 0:09:05.480 --> 0:09:08.120 So that now that it makes perfect sense because for 0:09:08.320 --> 0:09:12.760 that it just it's something that frees the mind, you 0:09:12.800 --> 0:09:15.199 know what I mean. You don't have that blockage that 0:09:15.280 --> 0:09:17.920 some people have from certain different places in the world 0:09:18.000 --> 0:09:20.400 where they're like, bro, nobody's ever made it from such 0:09:20.400 --> 0:09:21.120 and such, such. 0:09:20.920 --> 0:09:23.520 And such, so how. 0:09:22.679 --> 0:09:26.439 Do I even And then just seeing my grandfather because 0:09:26.440 --> 0:09:28.520 he played the organ in church, you know, he played 0:09:29.160 --> 0:09:31.400 funerals and like, you know, just you know what I'm saying, 0:09:31.440 --> 0:09:32.920 all types of stuff. So I used to always see 0:09:32.960 --> 0:09:36.400 him and I just was like, I'm seeing all these 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:37.160 producers that. 0:09:37.120 --> 0:09:38.760 Are millions, all this making all this money. 0:09:38.880 --> 0:09:41.320 I'm just like, okay, so the gig stuff, it's a 0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:42.880 little slower money, you know. 0:09:43.160 --> 0:09:45.480 I know, you know, you probably did a lot of gigs. 0:09:45.880 --> 0:09:46.800 You know, they call it gigging. 0:09:52.400 --> 0:09:54.680 Yeah, So it's like I was like, you know, like 0:09:55.360 --> 0:09:57.679 that's cool too, Like I would love to do that, 0:09:57.800 --> 0:09:59.640 but I wanted I knew I wanted to. 0:10:00.880 --> 0:10:04.960 And another part that's crazy is like even as a 0:10:04.960 --> 0:10:06.800 as I'm a kid, and I got my keyboard, and 0:10:06.800 --> 0:10:10.480 I'm making beats and all of these things. You know, 0:10:10.760 --> 0:10:13.680 in the times that you come up in, you guys 0:10:13.720 --> 0:10:17.560 are doing the math rather quickly like we weren't. I 0:10:17.600 --> 0:10:20.320 wasn't doing them. I wasn't processing the math that fast. 0:10:20.559 --> 0:10:22.640 I wasn't saying. I mean, of course, I'm in d C. 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:26.920 And it wasn't in Maryland. The market wasn't like robust 0:10:27.000 --> 0:10:30.480 in terms of you know, the artist and entertainments and 0:10:30.760 --> 0:10:34.440 people teaching it or giving the information. But I hadn't 0:10:34.480 --> 0:10:38.360 done the math on Okay, the musician thing is cool, 0:10:38.400 --> 0:10:40.839 but if I be a producer. 0:10:40.400 --> 0:10:42.520 Then I can really get to the back. I didn't. 0:10:42.559 --> 0:10:45.760 I didn't even I hadn't even processed that, you know 0:10:45.800 --> 0:10:48.880 what I mean. And you calculating that at a very 0:10:48.960 --> 0:10:54.520 young age was very wise of you, because, like you said, 0:10:54.640 --> 0:10:58.359 as a musician, I've run myself into the ground. 0:10:59.559 --> 0:11:02.000 You gotta practice everything. You got to learn, all the songs. 0:11:02.000 --> 0:11:04.600 You got Wednesday Bible study, you got Sunday service. 0:11:05.160 --> 0:11:06.719 Come on, I'm saying. You gotta know. You know what 0:11:06.760 --> 0:11:07.160 I'm saying. 0:11:07.200 --> 0:11:09.160 Like I mean, I guess you could transpose if you want, 0:11:09.200 --> 0:11:10.400 but if you want to just be able to just 0:11:10.559 --> 0:11:11.640 I wasn't transposed. 0:11:11.640 --> 0:11:12.520 I was in every key. 0:11:13.040 --> 0:11:15.800 And then I'm carrying a double tears stand, two keyboards, 0:11:15.840 --> 0:11:20.760 and a pv amp in one trip. I'm carrying it 0:11:20.880 --> 0:11:23.240 up the stairs or whatever church we're going to. Let's 0:11:23.240 --> 0:11:34.160 get it. Yeah, if I'd have known earlier, I could 0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:35.000 just produce. 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:40.400 Get this monkey off my back. I mean, we're where 0:11:40.440 --> 0:11:41.080 we are for a reason. 0:11:41.120 --> 0:11:43.599 But yeah, that's why you're so talented. You know what 0:11:43.640 --> 0:11:45.559 I'm saying. You can play in every key. You know 0:11:45.600 --> 0:11:47.560 what I'm saying. That's what that's something that you use 0:11:47.600 --> 0:11:49.920 to your advantage. You probably don't even realize how hard 0:11:49.960 --> 0:11:51.440 it is for some people to even learn how to 0:11:51.440 --> 0:11:53.800 do that, because you were already just doing it without 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:54.679 even thinking. 0:11:54.840 --> 0:11:58.520 I had we I played on the piano so in devotion. 0:11:59.600 --> 0:12:02.680 When when you know a mother from the Mother's Boys 0:12:02.720 --> 0:12:05.719 starts singing her song, you gotta meet her where she 0:12:05.880 --> 0:12:06.320 at right? 0:12:06.559 --> 0:12:06.760 One? 0:12:06.920 --> 0:12:13.120 Three, Yeah, if that's an E or B or strange keys, 0:12:13.880 --> 0:12:14.679 you gotta make it right. 0:12:14.720 --> 0:12:19.360 You gotta meet her. Let's go, and you ain't want 0:12:19.360 --> 0:12:21.280 to be embarrassed, because if you got embarrassed and there 0:12:21.360 --> 0:12:25.040 was another more capable musician behind you, he will scoot, 0:12:25.120 --> 0:12:29.640 you scoot, you off that bench. 0:12:29.920 --> 0:12:30.840 You go to tambourine and. 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:34.679 You don't. 0:12:41.920 --> 0:12:44.120 It's like the same in like band, in marching band, 0:12:44.160 --> 0:12:45.760 like you mess up. Like they were like, oh yeah, 0:12:45.800 --> 0:12:48.920 we're gonna let him play today. Like you go to 0:12:48.960 --> 0:12:52.319 bass anybody, yeah, and he's gonna place there. 0:12:52.400 --> 0:12:55.320 So I went from trumpet, Well, I could always play drums. 0:12:55.320 --> 0:12:57.160 I start playing drums at five, but I was like, 0:12:57.160 --> 0:12:58.640 I don't want to play drums in the band. It's 0:12:58.640 --> 0:13:02.360 just one drum. Like, but I'm went from trumpet then too. 0:13:02.480 --> 0:13:03.680 I was like, you know, let me just do what 0:13:03.720 --> 0:13:05.640 I do. So I went from trumpet to snare then 0:13:05.679 --> 0:13:07.560 the set in band. 0:13:07.720 --> 0:13:08.480 Yeah, but I. 0:13:08.400 --> 0:13:12.120 Feel like, you know, I feel like drummers and DJs 0:13:12.640 --> 0:13:13.559 are the best beat. 0:13:13.400 --> 0:13:17.360 Makers really yeah, because of tempo. 0:13:18.960 --> 0:13:23.160 They just understand rhythm differently. Yeah right, Like like take 0:13:23.160 --> 0:13:26.480 a guy like Timberland who was the DJ doctor dre 0:13:27.040 --> 0:13:33.800 Doctor dre Y. Yeah. When when I saw Beacos going 0:13:33.840 --> 0:13:37.480 over to work with Jermaine in the beginning, he was like, 0:13:37.880 --> 0:13:38.720 you need to learn how to DJ. 0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:40.520 Jamaine. 0:13:40.720 --> 0:13:42.880 I used to go watch be Cox sit on the 0:13:42.880 --> 0:13:48.600 turntables for like three hours just trying to I was like, 0:13:48.640 --> 0:13:52.160 what are you doing? I gotta just learning rhythms and DJ. 0:13:54.679 --> 0:13:57.480 Right, see what he is is an art of DJ. 0:13:58.559 --> 0:14:04.079 People don't understand, but no understanding those bp ms, understanding 0:14:04.200 --> 0:14:07.720 how to move the crowd, understand like all that plays 0:14:07.720 --> 0:14:10.400 a part in the beat making process. Now you know, 0:14:10.400 --> 0:14:12.679 I have guys that can be lush on top of it. 0:14:13.160 --> 0:14:18.160 But that beat, Yeah, d DJs? 0:14:18.320 --> 0:14:24.880 What's the mo? Other guy? Uh? Is it bongo? But bongo? Yeah? 0:14:24.880 --> 0:14:36.480 Producer drummer is bango drummer? Drums who makes sense for 0:14:36.520 --> 0:14:36.920 his navy? 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:39.520 You know what I'm saying. 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:42.560 But I feel like that perspective, like you coming from 0:14:42.880 --> 0:14:47.320 from band and being a drummer has that gives you 0:14:47.680 --> 0:14:51.200 an insight that that a lot of producers don't have. 0:14:51.400 --> 0:14:56.360 And it's it's about space along with time signature, like 0:14:57.000 --> 0:14:58.840 being able to live in this space where since you 0:14:58.920 --> 0:15:01.320 started with the fruity loops, how you understand the digital 0:15:01.360 --> 0:15:03.600 space of it. But if you feel like getting natural 0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:06.440 on these niggas, then you know where that where that 0:15:06.560 --> 0:15:07.160 dance is too. 0:15:07.680 --> 0:15:10.240 Yeah, and I'll work with some outburg here too. 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:10.920 You know what I'm saying. 0:15:10.960 --> 0:15:12.600 You got a Jupiter, I got a melotron. 0:15:12.640 --> 0:15:15.880 I got all types of stuff, you know what I'm saying, Like, 0:15:15.480 --> 0:15:17.240 I'll get I. 0:15:17.200 --> 0:15:19.720 Get busy with it too, That's what I'm saying. 0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:21.560 Like I like to really just like to delve in 0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:24.600 like and just like be able to create freely, so 0:15:24.680 --> 0:15:26.200 I don't ever want to feel like I'm held in 0:15:26.200 --> 0:15:26.520 the box. 0:15:26.520 --> 0:15:28.120 That's why I like to make all genres. 0:15:28.160 --> 0:15:29.600 Like you know what I'm saying, I'll do some medium 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:32.680 pop stuff like I just like to just feel free 0:15:32.840 --> 0:15:33.520 as a creative. 0:15:33.800 --> 0:15:36.200 Yeah, what were your first beats? Where they were they 0:15:36.240 --> 0:15:42.800 hip hop beats or what they like? Listen, listen to 0:15:42.840 --> 0:15:45.040 the young to the young kids that's out there just 0:15:45.080 --> 0:15:45.960 starting right now. 0:15:46.040 --> 0:15:48.520 Let them know like this is it starts somewhere. 0:15:48.760 --> 0:15:50.320 Yeah, yeah they're trash. 0:15:50.480 --> 0:15:50.680 Yeah. 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:51.800 I was just making whatever. 0:15:52.000 --> 0:15:55.600 Like to be honest, I just another motherfucker just playing 0:15:55.720 --> 0:15:57.960 chords and just trying to throw drums on it. I 0:15:57.960 --> 0:15:59.880 didn't know how to mix. I wasn't even throwing stuff 0:15:59.880 --> 0:16:03.720 in the mixer. No panemeric EQ, no reverb, no nothing, 0:16:03.760 --> 0:16:05.640 and just and then I you know, you gotta do 0:16:05.680 --> 0:16:08.360 the car test, so I play it in the car. 0:16:09.200 --> 0:16:10.800 I'd be like, this just sounds terrible. 0:16:11.560 --> 0:16:14.520 And you didn't know why it wasn't translating. 0:16:14.640 --> 0:16:19.440 But luckily, the advantage that we have, thank god, is YouTube. 0:16:19.720 --> 0:16:20.840 I was just about to say that. 0:16:20.800 --> 0:16:24.560 So I started taking advantage of YouTube and like how 0:16:24.600 --> 0:16:28.400 to mix beats on fl studio. And then that's when 0:16:28.440 --> 0:16:32.520 I really like started learning, like, oh, you gotta eq 0:16:32.720 --> 0:16:34.480 this out, you gotta do this, you gotta do that, 0:16:34.600 --> 0:16:38.080 And that's when my production started elevating. 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:40.440 Y'all have so many advantages. 0:16:40.520 --> 0:16:44.840 Like I'm watching like our good friend Jason Joshua, I'm 0:16:44.920 --> 0:16:51.680 watching him do YouTube tutorials, him and him and Pensada 0:16:51.960 --> 0:16:56.760 of how to get that track from here to Heaven? 0:16:57.120 --> 0:16:59.000 Yeah, and you guys. 0:16:58.760 --> 0:17:00.200 Are got it. 0:17:00.920 --> 0:17:03.000 What's that? What's it called? What's his BST called? 0:17:04.440 --> 0:17:05.160 Charicle? Yeah? 0:17:05.280 --> 0:17:13.000 Yeah, It's like, I get a beat now, and I'm like, 0:17:14.000 --> 0:17:14.680 don't touch. 0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:18.119 It, right, he's ready, Yeah, don't touch it. 0:17:18.119 --> 0:17:22.480 Sounds mixing messive, So let me sing mixed my vocals. 0:17:23.480 --> 0:17:25.920 We're done. Mhm. 0:17:25.960 --> 0:17:27.480 I got a lot of two track mixes out. 0:17:27.400 --> 0:17:30.840 Here, listen a lot of them. Did you said cardiac 0:17:30.920 --> 0:17:34.359 earlier when we two track? 0:17:34.960 --> 0:17:37.440 Yeah, but I'm not gonna lie. I don't know what 0:17:37.480 --> 0:17:43.240 that nigga cardiac? Does that sound like it sounds like 0:17:43.280 --> 0:17:45.639 that ship is a fucking movie theater and you're like, 0:17:46.800 --> 0:17:49.120 you got the speaking right next to you or some ship. 0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:50.600 I don't know what he do. He better keep that 0:17:50.600 --> 0:17:51.200 ship to him. 0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:57.320 On YouTube. Down with you, yeah, because looking. 0:17:57.080 --> 0:18:01.960 For Yeah, that ship sounded made and every song he produced. 0:18:01.520 --> 0:18:05.840 Like it's two tracks get on my nerves. Yeah, I 0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:07.960 should come through. And I got to a point to 0:18:08.000 --> 0:18:12.720 where I just said, I don't care. I'm not going 0:18:12.840 --> 0:18:16.080 to try to make my beat sound like that. I 0:18:16.119 --> 0:18:20.520 don't care. Jason Joshua was gonna mix it anyway. I 0:18:20.640 --> 0:18:24.040 don't care, because I was. I was losing my mind 0:18:25.720 --> 0:18:30.840 trying to get my beat there. There's too many You 0:18:30.880 --> 0:18:33.680 guys are too well versed in the out out for gear, 0:18:34.320 --> 0:18:37.400 you know, into the presets and all these things. I don't. 0:18:37.440 --> 0:18:39.960 I don't have that, and honestly, I don't have time 0:18:39.960 --> 0:18:40.280 for it. 0:18:41.520 --> 0:18:42.800 I don't get too much money. 0:18:42.840 --> 0:18:44.160 I gotta go to the gym. 0:18:44.640 --> 0:18:46.439 Fact, I can't work on my pictorials. 0:18:46.480 --> 0:18:49.800 Okay, that's where I need to go. 0:18:54.119 --> 0:19:00.240 So when do you When do you go from as 0:19:00.480 --> 0:19:07.160 man to beats that are like Nigga, that's hot? 0:19:07.880 --> 0:19:08.800 What's that? Who that for? 0:19:10.600 --> 0:19:10.800 Man? 0:19:11.200 --> 0:19:14.200 So I was working for a minute. I was just uh, 0:19:14.440 --> 0:19:17.399 making beats, making beats. And then my senior year, my 0:19:17.480 --> 0:19:20.080 parents were like, either get a job or go to school. 0:19:20.800 --> 0:19:23.159 So I'm like, damn sure, I ain't trying to get 0:19:23.200 --> 0:19:25.480 no job. So I was like, I'll go to school. 0:19:25.520 --> 0:19:28.399 So I went to Georgia State for a year. So 0:19:28.480 --> 0:19:31.120 I started meeting a lot of people there and then 0:19:31.320 --> 0:19:35.280 ironically I ran into one of Ogi Maco's homies and 0:19:35.320 --> 0:19:36.760 he was like, Yo, come to the house. 0:19:36.840 --> 0:19:37.680 We're about to work. 0:19:38.520 --> 0:19:40.640 So we pull up to the house, I meet Ogi 0:19:40.760 --> 0:19:44.000 Maco and Key and then Ogi Maco drops that song 0:19:44.200 --> 0:19:45.560 y'all remember bitch you guessed. 0:19:45.240 --> 0:19:47.040 It Nigga smash. 0:19:52.080 --> 0:19:55.600 Yeah right classic, I'm telling you. 0:19:55.119 --> 0:19:56.919 So he drops that ship. 0:19:57.440 --> 0:19:59.520 So then he called me one day He's like, yo, 0:19:59.760 --> 0:20:01.359 coach KG just hit me up like they're trying to 0:20:01.359 --> 0:20:03.720 sign me the QC. This is when the migos going 0:20:03.800 --> 0:20:07.600 crazy hen and wealthy and all that ship. So I'm like, Nigga, 0:20:07.640 --> 0:20:10.119 you better pull up right now. So he go up 0:20:10.160 --> 0:20:12.960 there that Nigga signed the deal right then. 0:20:13.520 --> 0:20:14.119 On the spot. 0:20:15.119 --> 0:20:17.359 Of course, he signed on the spot. 0:20:18.160 --> 0:20:23.360 So he called me, he like I signed. I'm like, oh, 0:20:23.480 --> 0:20:26.520 ship bet. So I'm in Georgia State, I'm walking into class. 0:20:26.520 --> 0:20:29.719 I'm thinking, I'm I think I'm walking into like fucking 0:20:29.720 --> 0:20:33.679 calculus or some ship that nigga's like, yeah, I signed. 0:20:35.320 --> 0:20:38.840 I turned my eyes right back around. I said you 0:20:38.920 --> 0:20:41.080 at the studio. I said, mat, I'm about to uber 0:20:42.080 --> 0:20:43.119 uber right to the studio. 0:20:43.640 --> 0:20:44.520 Left school. 0:20:44.840 --> 0:20:48.040 Never went back. What I never went back. 0:20:49.359 --> 0:20:51.400 Not not to say by anything. 0:20:53.920 --> 0:20:56.399 I got a picture all my classes say in like 0:20:56.600 --> 0:20:58.440 in incomplete inter ship. 0:20:59.119 --> 0:21:00.840 I didn't even talk your freshman year. 0:21:01.600 --> 0:21:04.480 This is my uh you already finished the freshman Yeah. 0:21:04.760 --> 0:21:07.320 It's like fake halfway sophomore year and ship. 0:21:08.119 --> 0:21:08.359 Yeah. 0:21:08.400 --> 0:21:10.960 So then I just start going to QC every day, 0:21:10.960 --> 0:21:12.679 and I was working with like Rich the Kid and 0:21:12.760 --> 0:21:14.840 Johnny Cinco and you know. 0:21:14.760 --> 0:21:17.159 Where you go or where they Yeah. 0:21:17.040 --> 0:21:17.880 Yeah they were way better. 0:21:17.920 --> 0:21:20.120 Now I was working with like my boy Dico, and 0:21:20.160 --> 0:21:22.960 like I had learned way more about production and then 0:21:23.000 --> 0:21:25.040 like I was starting to get placements with them and everything, 0:21:25.080 --> 0:21:26.560 and then p and Coach K came to me and 0:21:26.560 --> 0:21:29.359 they were like, shit, you here every day, we might 0:21:29.400 --> 0:21:32.880 as well sign you. So I was like, I damn 0:21:33.000 --> 0:21:36.600 did the same thing, sign and just signed. The ship 0:21:37.000 --> 0:21:37.960 been history ever since. 0:21:40.200 --> 0:21:48.359 And that's like, like you gotta fucking believe bro. Like 0:21:49.160 --> 0:21:54.080 that moment was so defining where it's like you can 0:21:54.160 --> 0:21:58.000 just keep with this program or you can do something 0:21:58.080 --> 0:22:04.240 absolutely crazy and walk out a calculus. So now I'm 0:22:04.240 --> 0:22:08.000 going to the studio and whatever it is is what 0:22:08.040 --> 0:22:08.679 it's going to be. 0:22:09.800 --> 0:22:12.600 But there was a time in between that too where 0:22:12.760 --> 0:22:15.359 my parents made me have a job. So I worked 0:22:15.400 --> 0:22:17.840 like random odd jobs like I worked at like Abricomy 0:22:17.880 --> 0:22:21.359 and Fitch. I worked at Macy's, I worked at Forever 0:22:21.440 --> 0:22:21.960 twenty one. 0:22:22.520 --> 0:22:25.560 So what the clothes was though, and where the girls 0:22:25.560 --> 0:22:34.040 were yeah, yeah for sure retail, yes, yes, yes, yes. 0:22:34.080 --> 0:22:36.240 Yeah, Like I was the nigga at Africomy and Fitch 0:22:36.280 --> 0:22:38.520 on Christmas ad to stand outside with the shutof. 0:22:39.600 --> 0:22:41.480 Give him some of that, yeah, give him some. Yeah 0:22:41.640 --> 0:22:43.200 he was on that. I love that. 0:22:43.520 --> 0:22:44.400 Yeah, that was divided. 0:22:44.480 --> 0:22:47.639 So, like you know, I was like, it's just like 0:22:47.760 --> 0:22:49.359 dumb shit. But like then I was like, man, I 0:22:49.400 --> 0:22:50.840 don't want to be in the workforce no more. Like 0:22:50.840 --> 0:22:52.840 I was like, I want to just make music. So 0:22:52.920 --> 0:22:54.760 I was just like I was, but I was going 0:22:54.800 --> 0:22:56.399 home and I didn't have a car, so I was 0:22:56.480 --> 0:23:00.439 riding the train. I was riding the train to the 0:23:00.440 --> 0:23:03.120 bus to the train station near my house and then 0:23:03.280 --> 0:23:06.919 taking the bus to my house every day, every day 0:23:07.000 --> 0:23:08.960 with your Okay, that was my routine. And I go 0:23:09.000 --> 0:23:10.120 home and I make bets all. 0:23:10.080 --> 0:23:12.160 Night and then how far was the QC studio? 0:23:13.880 --> 0:23:15.399 I used to have to borrow my mom's car to 0:23:15.440 --> 0:23:18.399 go there. That was on North Side Drive. Okay, so 0:23:18.560 --> 0:23:19.440 like midtown. 0:23:20.440 --> 0:23:22.240 My mom was letting you, she was letting you rock. 0:23:23.560 --> 0:23:26.960 Mm hm, you stole the car. 0:23:28.680 --> 0:23:33.080 They I just think that, like I always tell people that, Like, 0:23:33.160 --> 0:23:35.560 I think it's hard for like people to comprehend what 0:23:35.640 --> 0:23:36.359 making the beat is. 0:23:36.960 --> 0:23:37.440 Mm hmmm. 0:23:37.600 --> 0:23:39.000 So like my parents weren't. 0:23:38.800 --> 0:23:42.000 Really comprehending the noise they were hearing in my bedroom. 0:23:42.680 --> 0:23:43.720 They just hurt me just. 0:23:46.800 --> 0:23:47.320 It sounds like. 0:23:48.640 --> 0:23:53.560 Yeah, one time my dad was like, he texted me, 0:23:53.600 --> 0:23:55.120 he said, son, turned that down. 0:23:55.119 --> 0:23:56.280 Some of us had real jobs. 0:24:08.880 --> 0:24:12.040 I would sign back up, probably signed I probably I 0:24:12.119 --> 0:24:15.840 dropped out maybe like a year or two for. 0:24:15.840 --> 0:24:17.600 A year a year year. 0:24:17.960 --> 0:24:21.800 You just on your own time, on your own time. 0:24:21.880 --> 0:24:25.120 Ain't making no money with none of it yet, hell no, 0:24:25.240 --> 0:24:29.119 just putting in your work, putting in your man hours. 0:24:28.000 --> 0:24:30.800 Nothing, just pulling up just every night. 0:24:30.880 --> 0:24:32.640 I was sleeping there two three days at a time, 0:24:33.080 --> 0:24:34.880 not taking a shower and not brushing my teeth. 0:24:34.840 --> 0:24:36.919 Because like you said, you're not signed to them anything. 0:24:36.920 --> 0:24:38.440 They just allowing you to be there. 0:24:38.800 --> 0:24:38.960 Yeah. 0:24:38.960 --> 0:24:40.160 I was like, ma free studio. 0:24:40.320 --> 0:24:42.560 Yeah, so it's like I should just stay there and 0:24:42.560 --> 0:24:44.760 I just wake up and I just see Quavo on 0:24:44.800 --> 0:24:46.639 their recording. I see Pee Wee long Way or I 0:24:46.680 --> 0:24:50.480 see you know ran just random people just every day and. 0:24:50.480 --> 0:24:56.400 Would casts fuck with you or wayd They be like, ah. 0:24:54.520 --> 0:24:58.360 You know you know how that is. Yeah, that's that's 0:24:58.359 --> 0:25:00.280 that's that's his long that's the home. Yeah. 0:25:00.640 --> 0:25:04.600 I would say like maybe like maybe if like Xethoven 0:25:04.680 --> 0:25:06.760 was there some ship, they probably be like, uh, ship, 0:25:06.880 --> 0:25:07.440 we ain't here with. 0:25:07.400 --> 0:25:10.280 Tig like you know what I'm saying, go in the 0:25:10.320 --> 0:25:11.480 other room and cook up type shit. 0:25:11.680 --> 0:25:14.800 But like if it was just me and my boy Ico, nah, 0:25:14.800 --> 0:25:16.120 they wanted some beats. 0:25:15.840 --> 0:25:16.760 Because they ain't have none. 0:25:16.880 --> 0:25:18.280 They wasn't tripping shit. 0:25:18.359 --> 0:25:23.399 It was really just me Dico, honorable Sino Zetoven. Metro 0:25:23.480 --> 0:25:25.080 used to pull up some times like you know what 0:25:25.080 --> 0:25:28.080 I'm saying, the young Atlantas, Yeah, yeah, just to you know, 0:25:28.119 --> 0:25:29.360 what I'm saying the same niggas. 0:25:29.400 --> 0:25:33.160 So they was welcoming the cook up. Yeah, shit free beats? 0:25:33.400 --> 0:25:37.160 Who saying no the free beats? They fuck with it? Wow? 0:25:37.400 --> 0:25:40.199 So did anything land before you signed, like as far 0:25:40.240 --> 0:25:43.000 as you're on some mixtape shit anything or so within 0:25:43.040 --> 0:25:45.960 that time, No, you had you landed some placements. 0:25:46.040 --> 0:25:46.639 Yeah. 0:25:47.080 --> 0:25:50.680 I was on Migo's first album, Wire in m H, 0:25:52.320 --> 0:25:54.040 a lot of stuff with Johnny Sinko. I did like 0:25:54.080 --> 0:25:57.320 three on Rich the Kid first album, just like everybody 0:25:57.320 --> 0:25:59.160 in QC to be honest, like what you need for. 0:25:59.119 --> 0:26:01.879 Your first beat? Would you charge? Did you even know 0:26:01.880 --> 0:26:02.560 what to charge? 0:26:02.760 --> 0:26:04.639 I ain't charge. No, I ain't never charged me. I 0:26:04.640 --> 0:26:05.080 ain't charged. 0:26:06.280 --> 0:26:09.440 It was like I'm here, y'all, let me use the studio, 0:26:10.080 --> 0:26:10.720 y'all put me. 0:26:10.680 --> 0:26:13.359 On Nah, but I will say pee a real nigga. 0:26:13.359 --> 0:26:15.920 He used to just like give me five thousand. He 0:26:16.000 --> 0:26:18.359 used to be like, just here, five thousand. 0:26:19.920 --> 0:26:21.879 Just just on some random are just for when. 0:26:21.720 --> 0:26:23.600 You like keep pulling up and keep doing your thing. 0:26:24.040 --> 0:26:27.720 That's dope. Wow, that's dope. I love that. I love that. 0:26:28.440 --> 0:26:33.440 And it's before signing, before anything, before signing, that's dope. 0:26:33.520 --> 0:26:37.920 He gave me five thousand one day and I gave 0:26:37.960 --> 0:26:38.480 like four of it. 0:26:38.440 --> 0:26:38.960 To my mama. 0:26:39.800 --> 0:26:45.600 You're older, bro, ship, you're older, so y'all stopped telling 0:26:45.600 --> 0:26:46.160 me turn it down. 0:26:48.840 --> 0:26:51.000 I wonder I wonder how that felt for her, man, 0:26:51.720 --> 0:26:53.960 for you to handle some bread like that, you know 0:26:54.000 --> 0:26:54.280 what I mean? 0:26:54.320 --> 0:26:57.960 I think it made her realize, like, Okay, this could 0:26:58.040 --> 0:27:01.679 be something. Okay, you know what I'm saying, Jack's opposed to, Like, 0:27:02.640 --> 0:27:06.560 is my son just wasting his life? Yeah, because I know, 0:27:06.600 --> 0:27:09.240 like I don't have kids, but I can see as 0:27:09.280 --> 0:27:12.439 like as a parent, like how you can feel like 0:27:12.600 --> 0:27:15.720 you want your son to be successful, and it's harder 0:27:15.760 --> 0:27:20.320 when like the talent isn't like like, for instance, like 0:27:20.520 --> 0:27:23.399 when your son is Lebron, it's easier to like see it. 0:27:23.880 --> 0:27:24.120 Yeah. 0:27:24.760 --> 0:27:28.640 Yeah, Jack's supposed to being a musician that's making beats 0:27:29.280 --> 0:27:30.440 and you don't even know what it is. 0:27:30.760 --> 0:27:34.720 Right, what I'm saying, No, listen on the AA you circuit. 0:27:34.720 --> 0:27:36.080 Everybody think they sound is Lebron. 0:27:38.040 --> 0:27:43.040 I thought I was Lebron. But it's so funny. 0:27:43.480 --> 0:27:46.040 It's it's a really interesting thing that now we're about 0:27:46.040 --> 0:27:48.359 to have a conversation on because I'm an au father. 0:27:48.480 --> 0:27:50.040 You know what I'm saying, like, and I get to 0:27:50.080 --> 0:27:50.359 see it. 0:27:50.400 --> 0:27:55.040 But I'm also a music executive, so I've seen like 0:27:55.119 --> 0:27:57.920 the kid artists, I've seen the kid basketball players. 0:27:58.359 --> 0:28:02.040 And I'm the father that listen. 0:28:02.440 --> 0:28:04.240 If you don't want to hear what I got to say, 0:28:04.240 --> 0:28:05.719 don't even start the conversation with me. 0:28:05.800 --> 0:28:06.440 Are you the coach? 0:28:06.840 --> 0:28:09.240 No, I'm not, but I'm the you know what I mean. 0:28:09.280 --> 0:28:10.320 I'm at every game. 0:28:10.359 --> 0:28:13.119 And if we start talking and you start talking about 0:28:13.160 --> 0:28:14.840 these dreams of grandeur. 0:28:15.320 --> 0:28:17.200 I'm like, you know that nigga can't shoot? 0:28:17.280 --> 0:28:20.880 Right, I'm that father you say that to your son? 0:28:21.359 --> 0:28:23.080 No, no, my son should shut out the ball. But 0:28:23.840 --> 0:28:25.600 are you talking about to the other kids? No, not 0:28:25.600 --> 0:28:28.439 to the kid, but to the other fathers. Are the 0:28:28.480 --> 0:28:30.520 mama that's like, oh, well, you know, I was like, 0:28:31.200 --> 0:28:32.760 my son needs more shots. I'm like, you know, he 0:28:32.880 --> 0:28:35.480 just missed five in a row. Right, I'm that father. 0:28:35.520 --> 0:28:37.800 I'm not think, yeah, the coach be tripping. Hey man, 0:28:38.280 --> 0:28:41.280 y'all probably find a shoot coach. You know what I'm 0:28:41.320 --> 0:28:45.120 saying or whatever it is, it's it's constructive, but it's 0:28:45.240 --> 0:28:48.480 very real. I'm not that nigga, but I'm like that 0:28:48.560 --> 0:28:50.640 in music, and I see. But I feel like in 0:28:50.800 --> 0:28:55.520 music we can identify a little different from younger, like 0:28:55.560 --> 0:28:57.440 the younger artists to me, I mean, I don't know 0:28:57.480 --> 0:28:59.320 if you agree with this, but like if I see 0:28:59.320 --> 0:29:02.520 a certain artist, I know there's certain things that maybe 0:29:02.600 --> 0:29:05.160 might might need some tweaking and can fix he or 0:29:05.160 --> 0:29:08.920 fix or fix that. But like with sports, it's like, 0:29:09.040 --> 0:29:13.280 man that na get hurt next week, maybe if he 0:29:13.360 --> 0:29:17.680 was six five instead of five ten, maybe, if you 0:29:17.760 --> 0:29:20.560 know what I'm saying, there's so many other little things 0:29:21.280 --> 0:29:22.880 that make it unsure. 0:29:23.640 --> 0:29:25.920 I think it might all be unsure because look, you 0:29:25.960 --> 0:29:30.480 could have you could have the look, but you might 0:29:30.480 --> 0:29:32.320 not be able to sing all the way, or you 0:29:32.400 --> 0:29:37.600 might not take like constructive constructive criticism, and like you 0:29:37.600 --> 0:29:39.000 know what I'm saying, people can't work with you in 0:29:39.000 --> 0:29:39.480 the studio. 0:29:40.120 --> 0:29:40.760 It's kind of the. 0:29:40.680 --> 0:29:43.160 Same with a basketball player because like let's say you 0:29:43.280 --> 0:29:46.160 six two, you can shoot. You know what I'm saying, 0:29:46.400 --> 0:29:50.480 You got good defense, but you got an attitude, right, 0:29:50.560 --> 0:29:52.600 I know you've seen that shit on Netflix. What's that 0:29:52.600 --> 0:29:56.360 shit called last? You know what I'm saying, dude, is 0:29:56.400 --> 0:29:59.840 talented attitude. Like there's a lot of things that I 0:29:59.840 --> 0:30:01.360 think and goes into everything. 0:30:01.000 --> 0:30:02.480 To everything for sure, for sure. 0:30:02.480 --> 0:30:06.400 But we're also in a space where with basketball, as 0:30:06.440 --> 0:30:11.680 we're talking about the sport, with basketball, you need the 0:30:11.720 --> 0:30:17.440 infrastructure of basketball. With music, now, wild West, you don't 0:30:17.480 --> 0:30:22.560 need the infrastructure of music. Yes, Random, it's a hundred percent. 0:30:23.280 --> 0:30:26.960 Right you And you've seen it up close to where 0:30:27.040 --> 0:30:32.479 someone literally gets something going and it's it's and it's cracking. 0:30:32.680 --> 0:30:38.560 Like you said, Maco getting on changed your life. Yeah, 0:30:38.720 --> 0:30:39.480 think about that. 0:30:39.560 --> 0:30:40.560 The only reason I'm here. 0:30:40.920 --> 0:30:44.360 Yeah, I didn't even put together the whole Ogi Maco 0:30:44.480 --> 0:30:47.280 O G. I hadn't even connected that until you just 0:30:47.760 --> 0:30:51.320 talked about it. But that instance just right there where 0:30:51.440 --> 0:30:54.360 music like nigga, I know niggas that was the number 0:30:54.400 --> 0:30:58.000 one tenth grader in basketball, the number one twelfth grader 0:30:58.880 --> 0:30:59.960 still didn't make the league. 0:31:00.320 --> 0:31:02.160 I literally is about to say this exactly, and this 0:31:02.240 --> 0:31:07.720 the polar opposite. I know niggas, that colde on the keys, guitar, bass, 0:31:07.880 --> 0:31:10.520 can sing, make samples, do drums. 0:31:10.920 --> 0:31:14.960 They made a hit song. It's the same. 0:31:14.760 --> 0:31:18.360 Shit, but they got action at it though. Because there 0:31:18.360 --> 0:31:22.560 are hit songs available. You gotta be you gotta tell yourself, 0:31:23.040 --> 0:31:25.400 I'll go get me one and this is the thing, 0:31:25.560 --> 0:31:28.120 this is the thing that separates the music and the sports. 0:31:29.280 --> 0:31:32.760 In music, if you hear that motherfucker, you bet if 0:31:32.800 --> 0:31:34.960 you got a chance to get it, you better rap 0:31:34.960 --> 0:31:35.480 it or sing it. 0:31:35.880 --> 0:31:39.760 Yeah, I'm all fuck. If you hear it and you 0:31:39.800 --> 0:31:41.400 see some ship moment, you say. 0:31:41.360 --> 0:31:45.920 Oh, maybe if I did a verse, Maybe if I 0:31:45.960 --> 0:31:47.680 asked him, can I feature on this motherfucker? 0:31:48.040 --> 0:31:49.840 Listen? Because hit records are out here. 0:31:50.360 --> 0:31:53.120 Hit records are out here, right, you get what I'm saying, Like, 0:31:53.600 --> 0:31:55.080 you can go get that hit record. 0:31:56.320 --> 0:32:00.800 You can't just enter the NBA draft. You can't enter 0:32:00.880 --> 0:32:03.680 the NBA drap. You can bet it fresh out of 0:32:03.720 --> 0:32:04.360 the penitentiary. 0:32:04.400 --> 0:32:06.640 That was the Michael Jordan of such and such but 0:32:06.720 --> 0:32:08.720 had to go through two years and now into the 0:32:08.800 --> 0:32:10.920 NBA drap. No, my brother, it's not going to happen 0:32:10.960 --> 0:32:15.760 as as good as you are. But in music, bro, 0:32:15.960 --> 0:32:19.160 and listen, I just look at it like I don't 0:32:19.240 --> 0:32:22.120 I'm not their manager, I'm not that executive. But I 0:32:22.160 --> 0:32:24.360 see artists and I'm like, oh, if they just wouldn't 0:32:24.400 --> 0:32:27.760 got that song, they straight. 0:32:28.200 --> 0:32:31.000 And it's really because this ship is based around what 0:32:31.240 --> 0:32:36.840 you do make music. This ship is not listen artists. 0:32:36.880 --> 0:32:39.360 I love y'all. I am an artist, but it's not 0:32:39.480 --> 0:32:42.320 based around artists. It's based around songs. 0:32:43.160 --> 0:32:44.000 A hit song change. 0:32:44.280 --> 0:32:48.480 Hit songs change everything. You don't have to be the 0:32:48.520 --> 0:32:50.320 best singer. You don't have to be the best dancer, 0:32:50.560 --> 0:32:53.440 you don't have to be the best rapper. You might 0:32:53.480 --> 0:32:56.320 not even have to be able to keep the beat. 0:32:56.600 --> 0:33:01.280 But if that song is jamming you and the people 0:33:01.480 --> 0:33:04.600 around you, lives change immediately. 0:33:05.160 --> 0:33:06.880 I sing with my own eyes. 0:33:07.440 --> 0:33:11.080 City girls make act up, blow up, yachty mate co 0:33:11.280 --> 0:33:15.520 like Minnesota, blow up, little Baby, make my dog blow 0:33:15.600 --> 0:33:17.880 up like I'm talking about. I've seen them in the studio, 0:33:18.520 --> 0:33:21.440 just chilling every day, just making songs, making songs. Make 0:33:21.520 --> 0:33:24.440 one song. I come back to the studio. Nigga and 0:33:24.480 --> 0:33:25.640 the Lamborghini. 0:33:26.280 --> 0:33:29.280 They got eight chains on. I'm like, Nigga, what the fuck. 0:33:29.360 --> 0:33:33.560 It's not possible for anything else. We see it all 0:33:33.600 --> 0:33:35.880 the time. This is the closest thing to the lottery, 0:33:35.920 --> 0:33:39.280 the lottery. This is the closest thing we'll ever get 0:33:39.320 --> 0:33:41.520 to the lottery. 0:33:41.920 --> 0:33:43.640 Me meeting og Maco on. 0:33:43.720 --> 0:33:46.240 The side of the road changed my whole life, and 0:33:46.280 --> 0:33:48.200 my whole I pay my families for it. 0:33:48.600 --> 0:33:50.400 Said, y'all to even go to Georgia State together. 0:33:50.600 --> 0:33:52.120 Though I met his homie. 0:33:52.120 --> 0:33:55.400 His homie was like, come to the crib Ogi Maco 0:33:55.480 --> 0:33:57.240 there because he knew like niggas at Gegia State, no 0:33:57.320 --> 0:33:59.120 I make beats. He's like, oh shit, I'm going to 0:33:59.120 --> 0:34:01.000 the studio. Oji Maco and Key they were doing that. 0:34:01.000 --> 0:34:05.040 Give him help the EP his name THEO and he 0:34:05.160 --> 0:34:07.360 was like, shit, come to the studio tonight. And I 0:34:07.400 --> 0:34:09.680 went to the studio and I met Oji Maco and 0:34:09.719 --> 0:34:14.840 we locked in and that changed my whole family's life. 0:34:15.080 --> 0:34:18.480 Well that's part of it. 0:34:19.120 --> 0:34:21.719 Yeah, I will say hard work too, and also you 0:34:21.800 --> 0:34:24.439 always got to say even if that didn't happen, maybe 0:34:24.480 --> 0:34:25.120 it could have happened too. 0:34:25.320 --> 0:34:27.560 It's a couple of things, you number one being ready 0:34:28.480 --> 0:34:33.799 hm and you saying yeah. 0:34:35.600 --> 0:34:37.279 Every day, let's do it. 0:34:38.800 --> 0:34:43.000 That's it again. That's a different level of belief and commitment. 0:34:43.960 --> 0:34:47.719 That a different level of sacrifice that you have to 0:34:47.960 --> 0:34:50.440 have in order to do this ship. 0:34:50.880 --> 0:34:52.239 I would have put up to anything. I would have 0:34:52.280 --> 0:34:54.120 pulled up if a if Taco Bell called. 0:34:53.920 --> 0:34:56.640 Me, come on. 0:34:58.800 --> 0:35:01.520 Your camera's right there, cameras right in front of you, 0:35:01.600 --> 0:35:09.920 right because I am sometimes I am considered the hard ass, 0:35:10.640 --> 0:35:13.200 the guy who, oh, you don't give no grace to this, 0:35:13.239 --> 0:35:15.520 that and the other, because there is no grace in 0:35:15.560 --> 0:35:16.960 this if. 0:35:16.800 --> 0:35:17.960 You really want it. 0:35:18.480 --> 0:35:21.640 In anything you want to be successful at, you have 0:35:21.760 --> 0:35:28.560 to be willing to show up, do your job until 0:35:29.840 --> 0:35:30.600 you reach your. 0:35:30.480 --> 0:35:32.880 Goals, until you are valuable. 0:35:32.480 --> 0:35:36.160 Until it And as my brother Jasper said on here, 0:35:36.719 --> 0:35:41.200 be of service service, like you said, when other producers 0:35:41.239 --> 0:35:44.960 wasn't there, the bigger producers, they was like, what you got, 0:35:45.239 --> 0:35:48.279 and be prepared to give them that beat, to give 0:35:48.320 --> 0:35:50.400 them that beat because you're just like listen, I just 0:35:50.400 --> 0:35:53.440 got to get on or a lot of people and 0:35:53.520 --> 0:35:55.600 let's you know, because we really highlighted. 0:35:55.640 --> 0:36:00.920 Bro, I'll say it. You doing that deal, just just 0:36:01.000 --> 0:36:01.640 doing the deal. 0:36:01.840 --> 0:36:06.920 It's probably not the smartest thing, right, but it was 0:36:06.960 --> 0:36:08.320 probably the best thing. 0:36:10.040 --> 0:36:10.520 Happen. 0:36:10.880 --> 0:36:15.479 It had to happen because sometimes you gotta go clean 0:36:15.560 --> 0:36:20.520 up the house later. Yeah, Niggas be thinking like oh 0:36:20.680 --> 0:36:23.960 nig yeah, bro. By the time you by time the 0:36:24.040 --> 0:36:24.920 lawyers start. 0:36:24.800 --> 0:36:27.359 Lawyering, they're just gonna cut you off. 0:36:27.520 --> 0:36:31.360 Niggas like, hey man, who up next? Who up next? 0:36:31.440 --> 0:36:36.239 All you say to yourself, you know what my gift 0:36:36.280 --> 0:36:39.600 gonna get me through it. My hard work gonna get 0:36:39.600 --> 0:36:42.879 me through it. Okay, listen, you know what the deal 0:36:42.960 --> 0:36:44.920 is gonna probably be lopsided in the beginning because I 0:36:44.960 --> 0:36:46.160 don't really have nothing to offer. 0:36:47.280 --> 0:36:49.440 There's no value, not like I have a huge hit 0:36:49.520 --> 0:36:52.120 song or nothing. It's not like it's a crazy deal. 0:36:52.520 --> 0:36:54.239 And if I say no, the niggas gonna be like, 0:36:54.280 --> 0:36:55.120 forget that gate code. 0:36:55.200 --> 0:37:00.279 Let you know, if I hear I got a pet pee, Bro, 0:37:01.920 --> 0:37:04.200 if I hear one more nigga mentioned a three sixty 0:37:04.239 --> 0:37:05.320 that they know nothing about. 0:37:05.320 --> 0:37:06.239 They don't even know that means. 0:37:07.080 --> 0:37:08.799 You don't even know what it means. You just heard 0:37:08.800 --> 0:37:10.080 about it. 0:37:10.360 --> 0:37:13.040 You you don't come take a shot on that. 0:37:13.400 --> 0:37:16.240 You don't hate that ship, Bro, They don't even. 0:37:16.080 --> 0:37:22.120 Know what it means. Listen, three sixty the master's do you. 0:37:22.080 --> 0:37:28.200 Even know how to license your masters? Masters? They don't know. 0:37:30.080 --> 0:37:33.000 Talking to talk because they heard somebody said in an 0:37:33.040 --> 0:37:38.080 interview or rap about it in a song. And the 0:37:38.160 --> 0:37:40.200 nigga that you probably heard rap about it in the 0:37:40.200 --> 0:37:43.520 song probably doesn't own his masters because he doesn't know 0:37:43.520 --> 0:37:46.560 how to license them at all. If we gonna really 0:37:46.560 --> 0:37:50.440 have a real conversation, Oh. 0:37:49.680 --> 0:37:52.839 Like, Bro, there's a means to an end. 0:37:53.880 --> 0:37:56.520 When you're trying to get somewhere and you're trying to 0:37:56.840 --> 0:37:59.759 change your life, and there are people in front of 0:37:59.760 --> 0:38:03.200 you that are life changers, you just have to make 0:38:03.239 --> 0:38:05.440 the decision for yourself. 0:38:06.760 --> 0:38:07.719 If it's worth it or not. 0:38:08.840 --> 0:38:13.680 I've never judged the next person's deal, because we all here, we. 0:38:13.640 --> 0:38:14.239 All be into music. 0:38:14.280 --> 0:38:17.680 But oh, you know they got five million? Okay, well, 0:38:18.160 --> 0:38:20.520 what are the terms? Do you know the terms? Do 0:38:20.560 --> 0:38:23.520 you know what they signed four to get the five million? 0:38:24.040 --> 0:38:26.200 Do you know if that deal was in perpetuity? Do 0:38:26.239 --> 0:38:28.920 you know if they're ever getting anything back? Or did 0:38:28.960 --> 0:38:31.680 they sign their life away for five minutes? Did I 0:38:31.719 --> 0:38:33.640 just jump in a deal that maybe I didn't get 0:38:33.640 --> 0:38:36.080 a whole bunch of money, but I got the opportunity 0:38:36.360 --> 0:38:37.960 and I can work my way out of it. 0:38:39.320 --> 0:38:41.640 I'm gonna sign for thirty five albums. 0:38:41.560 --> 0:38:45.360 Nigga like, then he'll know what the buddies are for. 0:38:46.000 --> 0:38:48.160 Hey, my first deal could have been that. I was 0:38:48.200 --> 0:38:51.959 just like you white guys. Showed me that paperwork. I said, this, 0:38:51.960 --> 0:38:53.400 this is good. He said, yeah, that's good. 0:38:53.440 --> 0:38:54.280 That's cool. 0:38:57.960 --> 0:39:02.920 With y'll. I'm telling you that just wasn't even optional. 0:39:03.560 --> 0:39:05.120 My parents were like, you don't want to get a lawyer. 0:39:05.160 --> 0:39:08.880 I was like, yep, I'm the lawyer. 0:39:08.960 --> 0:39:16.240 Had nothing resembling a lawyer, were. 0:39:17.920 --> 0:39:23.480 You know, good lord, the good lord lawyer. 0:39:23.520 --> 0:39:24.360 Don't get a lawyer. 0:39:25.239 --> 0:39:25.880 Get a lawyer. 0:39:26.040 --> 0:39:31.359 We have good lawyers, don't. Yeah, but I'm just sharing that. 0:39:31.719 --> 0:39:35.239 I'm just sharing that. We share that. Like, I just 0:39:35.280 --> 0:39:38.520 felt like I gotta get to it. 0:39:39.000 --> 0:39:43.000 Yeah, yeah, forward progress. I gotta get to it. 0:39:43.160 --> 0:39:46.799 And and if if this contract is going to help 0:39:46.880 --> 0:39:51.120 me get to it, whatever is in it, I'll whatever 0:39:51.239 --> 0:39:53.839 is in it that needs to be cleaned up, I'll 0:39:53.880 --> 0:39:54.319 get to that. 0:39:54.640 --> 0:39:55.560 Yeah, we'll figure out. 0:39:55.800 --> 0:39:57.600 But right now I need to get cracked and I 0:39:57.640 --> 0:39:58.880 need to get off this bench. 0:39:58.920 --> 0:40:00.960 And in the game I make enough money to get 0:40:01.000 --> 0:40:01.920 somebody else to clean it. 0:40:02.000 --> 0:40:08.040 Come on, come on now, somebody thought me out of 0:40:08.080 --> 0:40:08.359 this thing. 0:40:09.920 --> 0:40:14.440 Somebody give me out the facts and it worked out. 0:40:14.680 --> 0:40:14.919 Bro. 0:40:15.520 --> 0:40:19.680 I'm looking at this list here, brow, it's it's too many. 0:40:20.480 --> 0:40:25.200 You've been going crazy. You have been going crazy. Bro, Okay, 0:40:26.239 --> 0:40:26.560 you have. 0:40:26.600 --> 0:40:29.000 You have a few songs listed here, but I kind 0:40:29.000 --> 0:40:31.600 of want to go in order. What's your first hit record? 0:40:33.680 --> 0:40:35.600 The first song I ever heard in the car on 0:40:35.640 --> 0:40:38.360 the radio was uh one hundred by K Camp and 0:40:38.400 --> 0:40:41.560 Fetty Walk. That's the first one I cracked for you. 0:40:43.080 --> 0:40:45.000 That's like the first year I signed the QC. 0:40:45.560 --> 0:40:48.440 And that and they're not even through QC, neither K 0:40:48.560 --> 0:40:52.040 Camp or wasn't. So how did you I think? 0:40:52.040 --> 0:40:53.800 He pulled up to work with Cebo and I was 0:40:53.840 --> 0:40:55.600 just like, let me see some beats. He got his 0:40:55.680 --> 0:40:56.520 number and sent him to his. 0:40:56.440 --> 0:41:00.640 Phone, still hustling. M hmm, just hustle. I love that. 0:41:01.200 --> 0:41:02.520 I just to be chilling, you know what I'm saying. 0:41:03.040 --> 0:41:05.720 I know a lot of you look like you be chilling, 0:41:05.920 --> 0:41:07.000 but you be plotting. 0:41:08.560 --> 0:41:11.000 Okay, so you okay back to the night talk though. 0:41:11.080 --> 0:41:12.719 So now this is your first, you know, one of 0:41:12.760 --> 0:41:15.719 your first runs that crack off. At this point, what 0:41:15.880 --> 0:41:18.200 are you charging anybody outside of QC because you're signing 0:41:18.280 --> 0:41:20.200 QC and you got your deal with them, but like, 0:41:20.200 --> 0:41:23.600 what is your like was you doing the three hundred 0:41:23.719 --> 0:41:25.719 for the beat? Was you doing the five hundred? Did 0:41:25.719 --> 0:41:27.720 you jump fifteen off the off the porch? 0:41:27.880 --> 0:41:27.960 Like? 0:41:28.320 --> 0:41:28.560 Hell? 0:41:28.719 --> 0:41:31.280 No, I was doing one hundred and fifty dollars leases 0:41:31.320 --> 0:41:33.560 and then three hundred dollars exclusive leases. 0:41:34.800 --> 0:41:36.680 Nigga do you remember the first time you heard about that. 0:41:36.680 --> 0:41:39.759 That shit blew my mind. Yes, it blew my mind. 0:41:40.000 --> 0:41:41.280 I was like, wait, wait, wait, wait wait. 0:41:41.600 --> 0:41:43.080 So they could sell it a couple of times to 0:41:43.080 --> 0:41:44.400 a couple of different artis, but if they want the 0:41:44.440 --> 0:41:46.040 exclusive one, yes, a little more. 0:41:46.280 --> 0:41:47.480 Yes, that's how I got to. 0:41:50.120 --> 0:41:50.920 Nigga. Listen. 0:41:50.920 --> 0:41:57.520 Shit, they dove deeper into music business than we've ever. 0:41:57.440 --> 0:41:58.040 Thought to go. 0:41:58.160 --> 0:42:00.000 Early, early, early. 0:42:00.200 --> 0:42:05.040 You're leasing a beat and you're gonna possibly use it 0:42:05.160 --> 0:42:07.200 multiple times on multiple artists. 0:42:07.239 --> 0:42:10.880 It's contracted, but if you want the exclusive. 0:42:10.520 --> 0:42:13.200 It's Did any of those ever catch heat like the 0:42:13.200 --> 0:42:13.960 ones you were leasing? 0:42:14.760 --> 0:42:16.960 Hell no, No. 0:42:16.560 --> 0:42:18.000 It was just random hood niggas. 0:42:18.000 --> 0:42:20.080 I would come across or like somebody would be like, 0:42:20.120 --> 0:42:22.400 my boy make beats and like or like niggas at 0:42:22.400 --> 0:42:23.920 Georgia State. I used to still like pull up to 0:42:23.960 --> 0:42:27.720 Georgia State and hoop and shit like and like niggas 0:42:27.719 --> 0:42:29.400 in gym, you know, saying direct. They're still trying to 0:42:29.480 --> 0:42:31.160 rap and ship. I'll be like, shit, I got some 0:42:31.200 --> 0:42:34.720 beats for you and fifty. 0:42:34.040 --> 0:42:37.279 But they were smart too with the economics. If I 0:42:37.280 --> 0:42:41.120 can move one hundred these one fifties, yeah, fifteen thousands. 0:42:42.520 --> 0:42:44.160 I never made nothing like that though, But. 0:42:46.719 --> 0:42:54.440 Fifteen thousand, hell no, I have like six sh. 0:42:53.760 --> 0:42:56.800 See that sings had to be cracking nigga crystals for everybody. 0:42:56.960 --> 0:42:58.319 Nigga. I thought I was rich. 0:42:58.440 --> 0:43:03.000 We ure what hey in Atlanta? Six hundred used to 0:43:03.040 --> 0:43:04.920 go a long way. I'll tell you what I was. 0:43:05.280 --> 0:43:06.080 You still stand at. 0:43:05.960 --> 0:43:08.120 The crib right, Oh? Yeah, was in my mom's crib. 0:43:08.239 --> 0:43:12.200 So then after kkm one hundred, I had like some 0:43:12.280 --> 0:43:15.239 Johnny Sinco ships, some richer kids ship and then I 0:43:15.239 --> 0:43:18.480 remember I got my first ASKAP check for seven thousand. 0:43:19.120 --> 0:43:24.680 That ship came to the house. I fucking saw that check. Nigga. 0:43:24.680 --> 0:43:27.719 I went directly to the bank and I told my mom. 0:43:27.719 --> 0:43:28.600 I was like, let me use your car. 0:43:28.600 --> 0:43:31.800 Requick went to the bank, I drove to the first 0:43:31.840 --> 0:43:34.320 apartment complex I saw and got an apartment. 0:43:34.520 --> 0:43:38.040 He's like, I'm gone, first one you saw? What? Not 0:43:38.080 --> 0:43:39.560 even something you knew about it at all? 0:43:39.880 --> 0:43:42.120 No, it's the first nice like the first like not 0:43:42.160 --> 0:43:44.520 like just no hooshier, but like the first like nice 0:43:44.520 --> 0:43:45.000 one I saw. 0:43:45.040 --> 0:43:47.600 It is like winning that motherfucker. I called my homie. 0:43:47.600 --> 0:43:50.319 I was like, bro, you're trying to be roommates. The dude. 0:43:50.320 --> 0:43:51.600 I was making like a lot of my beats with 0:43:51.640 --> 0:43:53.880 my boy and he was like, hell yeah, cause he 0:43:53.880 --> 0:43:55.800 got the same check because we made one hunded together, 0:43:56.200 --> 0:43:58.640 so he had got like the same day type shit too. 0:43:59.040 --> 0:44:01.080 And we was like, he was like, hell yeah, we 0:44:01.200 --> 0:44:02.960 met up there, grab that ship. 0:44:06.320 --> 0:44:06.719 What you did? 0:44:08.440 --> 0:44:08.680 Yeah? 0:44:09.680 --> 0:44:12.480 My mom was like you moving up? I was like, yep, and. 0:44:12.480 --> 0:44:17.760 How at this point like twenty twenty one, say twenty one? 0:44:18.360 --> 0:44:21.600 Yeah, yeah, I know, I know y'all went up. 0:44:23.560 --> 0:44:25.840 That's when I started getting introduced to the I was 0:44:25.920 --> 0:44:27.319 drinking Jack Dames back then. 0:44:27.440 --> 0:44:28.080 Hallelujah. 0:44:30.080 --> 0:44:33.880 I got a bottle and I was like, oh yeah, lit, 0:44:34.200 --> 0:44:35.880 I love those people too. 0:44:38.719 --> 0:44:40.680 Making beats happy as hell. 0:44:41.120 --> 0:44:43.000 Okay, so you got your first one on the radio. 0:44:43.200 --> 0:44:47.200 You make it? You gotta check mm hmm. When does 0:44:47.280 --> 0:44:50.200 the smash slippery? 0:44:50.200 --> 0:44:57.920 My migos, that's when. 0:44:59.440 --> 0:45:02.200 So what was the feeling when you walked into the 0:45:02.200 --> 0:45:04.840 club and hurt slippery that? 0:45:05.000 --> 0:45:05.720 It was crazy. 0:45:07.120 --> 0:45:10.160 I had to be like, because at this point you've 0:45:10.160 --> 0:45:13.360 been making bets, what five six years at this point 0:45:14.480 --> 0:45:15.000 and now. 0:45:15.120 --> 0:45:17.279 Twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen, but. 0:45:17.280 --> 0:45:19.240 What is what is? What is? Uh? 0:45:19.320 --> 0:45:21.879 What is p and Coach saying that, like, like, what 0:45:22.080 --> 0:45:23.279 energy you're getting from them? 0:45:23.440 --> 0:45:25.680 Now you got one, you got one on one on 0:45:25.719 --> 0:45:29.120 the staple ark. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. 0:45:29.320 --> 0:45:31.080 We went to the bt A Wars together and all that. 0:45:31.719 --> 0:45:32.879 Oh you oh you rode the car. 0:45:33.200 --> 0:45:35.719 Yeah, took it. Took you on the trip about the 0:45:35.719 --> 0:45:36.479 hotel and the flight. 0:45:38.040 --> 0:45:39.239 They were like, okay, yeah, we. 0:45:39.200 --> 0:45:39.800 Did it, we did it. 0:45:40.560 --> 0:45:44.560 You were up. Come on, yeah guys. 0:45:44.640 --> 0:45:50.719 Yeah, we were like, we're outside. 0:45:56.120 --> 0:45:58.399 I've been in the music business longer than thirty about 0:45:58.400 --> 0:46:00.120 to say this is crazy. 0:46:02.239 --> 0:46:02.520 Ship. 0:46:04.239 --> 0:46:06.719 Hey, listen sometimes listen, you gotta pop that back bottle 0:46:06.760 --> 0:46:07.000 of sham. 0:46:07.200 --> 0:46:10.560 Yeah, man, it's not for real, bro, Celebrate, celebrate what 0:46:10.640 --> 0:46:11.080 you've done. 0:46:11.120 --> 0:46:12.960 Man, don't let nobody tell you that. 0:46:13.600 --> 0:46:13.680 Na. 0:46:13.840 --> 0:46:15.640 Man, you don't. You don't rest on your lords, you 0:46:15.640 --> 0:46:18.799 don't wrest listen. It ain't about that. But I don't 0:46:18.800 --> 0:46:21.160 want to look up at seventy or eighty and be like, yeah, nigga, 0:46:21.160 --> 0:46:21.760 I did something. 0:46:22.560 --> 0:46:22.840 Nigga. 0:46:22.960 --> 0:46:26.120 You look up every day like I'm doing Ship, I'm cracking. 0:46:26.400 --> 0:46:26.839 You're young. 0:46:26.880 --> 0:46:28.920 You're hanging that plaque on the wall that six times 0:46:28.920 --> 0:46:31.480 plack yes sir, and get. 0:46:31.320 --> 0:46:35.200 The five, get the foe, get the three. Because everyone. 0:46:35.400 --> 0:46:38.120 Everyone counts, everyone counts, and it's all accomplishments. 0:46:38.160 --> 0:46:40.120 Bro, I wish you nigga will walk in my house 0:46:40.120 --> 0:46:41.600 and be like, you know you got too of the 0:46:41.600 --> 0:46:44.399 same two plaques for the same record, right, so well 0:46:44.880 --> 0:46:46.960 where your where yours? 0:46:47.000 --> 0:46:47.400 Shut up? 0:46:47.480 --> 0:46:50.680 Big Yeah, I got the gold and in the double. 0:46:50.719 --> 0:46:53.920 That's what they say online. Shut up, nigga. 0:46:54.520 --> 0:46:56.920 It don't matter what you're saying. It's always somebody that's 0:46:56.920 --> 0:46:58.520 gonna be in the comedy. Shut up, nigga. 0:46:59.040 --> 0:47:02.239 Hey, nigga, get all motherfuckers, brom get all over them. 0:47:02.280 --> 0:47:02.400 Now. 0:47:02.440 --> 0:47:03.560 I'm going to for Shure. 0:47:04.600 --> 0:47:06.440 And get more and get more houses and studios to 0:47:06.440 --> 0:47:06.880 put him in. 0:47:07.760 --> 0:47:09.200 Yeah, I need to get some real estate. 0:47:09.320 --> 0:47:16.879 Man, what you got for chief? Oh cheap Parker. 0:47:18.960 --> 0:47:22.800 Beat you guess man, that's where your career started. 0:47:22.800 --> 0:47:30.520 Bro, got what the odds of that? Ship Man's brother 0:47:30.600 --> 0:47:33.160 O G Brother G. 0:47:35.760 --> 0:47:39.239 A lot of songs have come in the history of 0:47:39.360 --> 0:47:46.360 song making, as you've seen in the crates. 0:47:49.360 --> 0:47:52.320 Down in Atlanta. We like Atlanta. 0:47:52.840 --> 0:47:56.600 We like Atlanta, especially on Monday night, especially on my day. 0:47:58.760 --> 0:48:01.120 Yeah, shout out, imagine. 0:48:00.760 --> 0:48:06.680 The culture is rich and we know that your musical wealth. 0:48:09.360 --> 0:48:11.520 It's an all time high. The people want to know, 0:48:11.760 --> 0:48:19.520 but they want to know yet, brother o jeez, m. 0:48:19.640 --> 0:48:22.440 H top fun. 0:48:24.000 --> 0:48:31.080 Yeah, your top five, top five. 0:48:34.000 --> 0:48:35.239 Your top five. 0:48:36.480 --> 0:48:40.759 Easing are the so. 0:48:43.400 --> 0:48:44.520 We got to know. 0:48:45.400 --> 0:48:48.160 They know you go you're on the. 0:48:49.520 --> 0:49:06.360 Don't know you gotta come on. Yeah, your. 0:49:07.840 --> 0:49:24.560 Top five, Yeah. 0:49:23.120 --> 0:49:27.640 It's beautiful play so fine on shoot Grid Brollo, g 0:49:29.600 --> 0:49:36.400 your top five R and B singers. 0:49:37.800 --> 0:49:47.319 C B Party Bryson Yea's all right, I'm just doing 0:49:47.400 --> 0:49:47.960 young niggers. 0:49:48.360 --> 0:49:50.959 He's doing. 0:49:51.440 --> 0:49:57.040 C B Party Okay, okay, cooking uh. 0:50:00.520 --> 0:50:03.080 Eric Bellinger Mmmm. 0:50:04.239 --> 0:50:06.600 Like that exquisite votes like that? 0:50:06.760 --> 0:50:10.319 Yeah, yeah, singing like that you said. 0:50:10.360 --> 0:50:13.840 Jeremiah, Yeah, I'm going like yeah, like. 0:50:15.680 --> 0:50:17.799 Thirty five under you. 0:50:18.719 --> 0:50:21.880 I just had a uh, I had a little way moment. 0:50:23.040 --> 0:50:32.480 He's a they Gucci number five. Shout out to my nigga, 0:50:34.360 --> 0:50:38.239 Shout out to my nigga, Jerema. Hey, you're talking about 0:50:38.239 --> 0:50:44.239 a song writing motherfucking fool. I wanted to fight that nigga. 0:50:44.520 --> 0:50:47.880 Fight that nigga, Jeremiah, that nigga cold. 0:50:48.440 --> 0:50:50.799 He's a cold one. 0:50:51.400 --> 0:50:53.000 You don't write me a song too. I'm not gonna 0:50:53.040 --> 0:50:55.440 let him off the hook until he writes me one. Okay. 0:50:56.160 --> 0:50:59.960 Top five R and B songs. 0:51:00.120 --> 0:51:01.920 That's hard. Yeah, I know, I know. 0:51:03.239 --> 0:51:07.960 Going to your phone, He's like me, see what songs 0:51:07.960 --> 0:51:09.080 I produced. 0:51:12.480 --> 0:51:14.920 Because like favorite is so relative, because like. 0:51:15.280 --> 0:51:18.440 Just say that for today it's yours. 0:51:18.560 --> 0:51:21.439 Well, I'm listening to my favorite songs right now. Yeah, today, 0:51:21.800 --> 0:51:22.520 missing you queen. 0:51:23.760 --> 0:51:24.680 Come on. I love that. 0:51:26.960 --> 0:51:33.400 Uh? I like uh. 0:51:36.200 --> 0:51:39.080 Mm hmmmmm. 0:51:41.280 --> 0:51:42.440 Made for me money long. 0:51:42.800 --> 0:51:45.839 M Yes, you can do that, yes sir, Yes, sir, 0:51:45.920 --> 0:51:47.200 I'm with that. 0:51:48.680 --> 0:51:50.120 Uh huh, I ain't gonna lie. 0:51:50.640 --> 0:51:58.200 Tims gets to Bernie Joint Love Love Burning and Me 0:51:58.239 --> 0:51:58.600 and you. 0:51:58.920 --> 0:51:59.200 Yeah. 0:51:59.719 --> 0:52:10.319 Yeah, the fifth one going chill by Party mm hmm. 0:52:11.440 --> 0:52:14.279 Yeah, that's my favorite right now. 0:52:14.440 --> 0:52:16.279 We had a real young nigga here for real. 0:52:16.360 --> 0:52:22.359 For that's an ideal, my young niggah. 0:52:22.400 --> 0:52:26.320 Yeah, I mean you're on You're like a shouted down hoodio. 0:52:26.440 --> 0:52:27.800 You're on your young. 0:52:28.400 --> 0:52:29.920 Am about to go to the tower right now and 0:52:29.920 --> 0:52:30.399 get drunk. 0:52:30.560 --> 0:52:36.640 Hey, celebrating these head someone celebrating their life. 0:52:36.960 --> 0:52:38.879 Yeah, as you should. 0:52:38.960 --> 0:52:41.719 Know, we eighty times platting around his motherfucker. 0:52:41.800 --> 0:52:44.240 Man. Everybody, take a shop. Let's kill a bottle. 0:52:47.960 --> 0:52:50.760 I ain't saying no names, hey, I ain't saying no names. 0:52:50.800 --> 0:52:54.600 I ain't saying no names. Ain't saying no names. He was. 0:52:56.880 --> 0:52:59.400 What you did. Don't see ship. 0:53:02.440 --> 0:53:12.560 You know, a't say yeah yeah. 0:53:12.600 --> 0:53:14.439 We had a very very special part of the show. 0:53:14.520 --> 0:53:18.120 Right now, Will you tell us a story funny or 0:53:18.160 --> 0:53:22.200 fucked up? Are funny and fucked up? The only rulee 0:53:22.239 --> 0:53:24.920 to the game. You can't say no names. 0:53:25.400 --> 0:53:25.879 Only room? 0:53:26.600 --> 0:53:35.040 Uh huh, it's only room. Uh sure. One time I 0:53:35.080 --> 0:53:36.160 went to the studio. 0:53:35.960 --> 0:53:37.800 And I was, we'll get the mic, make sure the 0:53:37.840 --> 0:53:38.319 mike give me. 0:53:40.239 --> 0:53:43.160 One time I was in the studio and uh it 0:53:43.239 --> 0:53:47.480 was that QC and I was playing some beats for 0:53:47.600 --> 0:53:52.000 some people and I just did wilding Out, So I 0:53:52.040 --> 0:53:54.080 had on the wilding Out shirt. 0:53:55.000 --> 0:53:55.680 I got your name. 0:53:57.360 --> 0:54:00.000 I just came from there, came straight. 0:54:00.239 --> 0:54:02.120 I had left my book back there on purpose that 0:54:02.120 --> 0:54:04.000 I had beat because I knew niggas was gonna be 0:54:04.000 --> 0:54:10.320 there night that night, and it was like hell of 0:54:10.400 --> 0:54:13.520 people in there. And when I tell you, I played 0:54:13.640 --> 0:54:17.000 every beat on my fucking computer. I'm talking about I'm going. 0:54:16.840 --> 0:54:19.760 From folder to folder that goddamn I'm going to my email. 0:54:19.800 --> 0:54:21.719 I'm like, wait, I sent this to this person, Wait 0:54:21.719 --> 0:54:24.759 wait they might fuck with this, this and this. I 0:54:24.800 --> 0:54:30.160 got to like that thirtieth beat. They were like, hey, bro, 0:54:31.239 --> 0:54:38.680 just let that shit go. Then my homie came shout 0:54:38.680 --> 0:54:41.759 out my boy quake global, he came, Oh damn my. 0:54:41.719 --> 0:54:43.400 Path he came. 0:54:43.640 --> 0:54:48.960 He came through this. Nigga played one beat hits on. 0:54:50.360 --> 0:54:52.480 I won't say this all just lean on name. 0:54:53.080 --> 0:54:58.760 You played one beat after you played thirty thirty clip sweating. 0:54:58.800 --> 0:55:00.799 You didn't hit nobody. Sweat you didn't hit nobody, but 0:55:00.880 --> 0:55:08.279 none of the thirty. Oh, Nigga, that's Gashit hilarious, a 0:55:08.400 --> 0:55:10.920 third piece. That's how the ship goes sometimes. 0:55:12.440 --> 0:55:15.319 And you said the beat that that he played ended 0:55:15.360 --> 0:55:16.200 up being a hit too. 0:55:16.920 --> 0:55:19.120 HiT's on Top twenty five Urban radio. 0:55:19.120 --> 0:55:19.600 Off the shows. 0:55:23.920 --> 0:55:25.880 I'm talking, I'm playing my best ship. I was excited 0:55:25.880 --> 0:55:27.160 to apply just say wilding out. 0:55:27.200 --> 0:55:28.239 I'm like, oh yeah, I'm lit. 0:55:29.840 --> 0:55:31.440 No, they told you to let that ship go. 0:55:33.400 --> 0:55:36.279 One of the artists said, oh no, you wading out 0:55:36.320 --> 0:55:41.680 for real. Oh I'm gonna tell you off camera. 0:55:41.840 --> 0:55:44.200 People don't know that. People don't know that this is 0:55:44.280 --> 0:55:46.480 how the ship goes though. I mean, like, Nigga, no 0:55:46.520 --> 0:55:46.880 matter what. 0:55:46.960 --> 0:55:51.000 The first time, it's time, right, it's a tough audition. 0:55:50.920 --> 0:55:52.919 Right, and you just came off of a TV show. 0:55:52.960 --> 0:55:55.520 That means you're already cracking. You already got hit record. 0:55:56.040 --> 0:55:57.319 And the nigga still like this. 0:55:57.360 --> 0:55:59.280 Is like way letter recently. 0:55:59.320 --> 0:56:01.760 Yeah, niggah, nigga, Wi. 0:56:02.200 --> 0:56:05.160 Nigga used your shirt against you. 0:56:06.800 --> 0:56:08.960 I thought you my brother, you have to do that. 0:56:09.040 --> 0:56:10.160 Nigga got damn. 0:56:11.239 --> 0:56:14.160 That's crazy. I get it crazy, but I get. 0:56:14.000 --> 0:56:19.360 It's a real, real studio story. This is how this 0:56:19.440 --> 0:56:22.799 ship goes. I want this ship, man. Yeah, And it 0:56:22.840 --> 0:56:23.319 was just thirty. 0:56:23.400 --> 0:56:25.239 They needed to hear thirty one and you you just 0:56:25.280 --> 0:56:26.799 play thirty and he played the one and you know. 0:56:26.800 --> 0:56:29.160 I mean at it like that. You broke them down. 0:56:29.239 --> 0:56:32.360 You broke him down. Yeah, broke them down. It's like 0:56:32.480 --> 0:56:35.879 it's like the number machine. This machine was hot. 0:56:36.239 --> 0:56:36.839 She was hot. 0:56:37.440 --> 0:56:40.439 You better when you get curved, my girl. 0:56:40.920 --> 0:56:45.320 Hey, that's what is it? Anyway? Like I saw that 0:56:45.560 --> 0:56:49.240 cute man. It's gonna make you spend so much money, man, niggas. 0:56:49.280 --> 0:56:54.040 She ain't a real one dog last week with two niggas, 0:56:54.320 --> 0:56:55.400 ain't that nigga? 0:56:55.440 --> 0:56:57.440 And then you fucking around and have a here record. 0:57:00.960 --> 0:57:04.799 That's the word. God does everything for a reason. That's 0:57:04.960 --> 0:57:07.440 that's what you get that let the God does everything for. 0:57:09.800 --> 0:57:09.920 Bro. 0:57:10.080 --> 0:57:14.160 You're killing man. Yeah, man, congratulations man. 0:57:15.320 --> 0:57:21.000 And and and keep that same hunger, bro, keep that 0:57:21.080 --> 0:57:23.800 same hunger, keep that same you. 0:57:23.760 --> 0:57:26.880 Know, as they would say, keep that same energy, Keep 0:57:26.880 --> 0:57:31.800 that same energy. Bro. Yeah, have that thirty, Have that thirty. 0:57:31.520 --> 0:57:36.920 Ready every time. He always sometimes. 0:57:36.680 --> 0:57:38.360 Work because it only takes one. 0:57:39.400 --> 0:57:42.600 I mean you saw that with the hommy. You take one. 0:57:44.640 --> 0:57:53.880 It's crazy so soon. It only takes one. Cardis cardiac 0:57:53.920 --> 0:57:57.200 and send me you know Cardiac's in the pack. 0:57:58.560 --> 0:58:04.240 No, but this that one, you know, news we brother, 0:58:05.160 --> 0:58:08.800 that one. I appreciate. That's what we pray for. Continued 0:58:10.000 --> 0:58:10.800 even more. 0:58:13.240 --> 0:58:16.680 More. Why not trying to keep it going? 0:58:16.800 --> 0:58:21.080 Why not ships? Keep us partying, brother, keep us partying, 0:58:21.200 --> 0:58:25.520 you know, and keep and keep keep the women. Keep 0:58:25.520 --> 0:58:31.640 the ladies slippy, keep the ladies on it. Yeah, on 0:58:31.800 --> 0:58:35.240 a slip, Yeah, the ladies. 0:58:35.880 --> 0:58:40.880 We do all this, Thanks gentle. 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