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Speaker 1: On today's episode of Ticket of the Draft podcast, we

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Speaker 1: are live from Indianapolis. We're doing the Combine and it's

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Speaker 1: defensive ends, defensive tackles today. The freakiest dudes you're ever

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Speaker 1: gonna see. Big movers, heavy guys, fast guys, guys that

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Speaker 1: can jump out the gym. They're all here. We talk

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Speaker 1: about who their dudes were, the guys that we expect

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Speaker 1: to go top twenty. Did they disappoint I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: And then guys that bade us raise an eyebrow. Hey,

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Speaker 1: we got to go back and watch them film in

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Speaker 1: a bad way and in a good way. It all

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Speaker 1: starts right now. We were committed to a good draft podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm Logan Paulson here with Justin Guy, Jason and Jason.

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Speaker 1: We are at the Combine Indianapolis. We just spent how

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Speaker 1: many hours we spent three four hours watching drills, kind

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Speaker 1: of getting the full combine experience, which is one of

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Speaker 1: the things that is crazy when I look back on

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Speaker 1: how much time we actually spent in the stadium watching drills.

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Speaker 1: But it's also one of the things. One of the

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Speaker 1: reasons we're here and one of the reasons we're psychopaths

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Speaker 1: about the draft.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, this is a thing that we keep

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Speaker 2: doing over and over again. So I guess it's the

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Speaker 2: definition of insanity for us. But you know what, we

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Speaker 2: just love football, and uh, I love this process. The

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Speaker 2: Combine's a lot of fun. The city is great and

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Speaker 2: the stadium's beautiful. Like, they do a really good job here,

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Speaker 2: so like I never feel like, oh my gosh, I

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Speaker 2: the way, we've been there for five hours.

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Speaker 1: Said you said two or three or three or five, it's.

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Speaker 2: Been five and so we watched a lot of defensive

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Speaker 2: line today and which is a really fun group. And uh, logan,

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Speaker 2: but tell me, like about the I don't want to

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Speaker 2: say the importance of the combine. A lot of people

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Speaker 2: know what the importance is. Tell me, like, what is

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Speaker 2: the purpose of the combine when you're scouting?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think when you're scouting obviously, Like we've

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Speaker 1: talked about this a bunch of times on the Command

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Speaker 1: But you know, the reason you come to the combine

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Speaker 1: is for the meetings. Obviously we are not privy to

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Speaker 1: those meetings. The next thing would be medical. We are

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Speaker 1: not privy to medical right, So those are the kind

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Speaker 1: of the two main ones that that I think teams

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Speaker 1: You know. Dan Quinn talked about finding commanders as opposed

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Speaker 2: Yeah, good players here, but there's not a lot of

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Speaker 2: commanders and that's who we're looking for.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So I think like that's that's where that that

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Speaker 1: interaction happens in those meetings. I will say, the reason

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Speaker 1: what ultimately the combine is. Right. It's basically like if

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Speaker 1: you see a guy who you think is explosive and fast,

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Speaker 1: film is what you saw in the field, and that's

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Speaker 1: exactly what you're hoping to do. Is racially say this

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Speaker 1: is what I think the guy is. Is there anything

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, like you said, some guys can surprise too.

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Speaker 2: It's like when you were talking about James Pearce, it's like,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, And so you know Jack saw didn't run,

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Speaker 2: Wouldn't be producer of me if I just said, man,

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Speaker 2: What we're going to do on the show is we're

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Speaker 2: going to talk about the defensive line that we watched

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Speaker 2: today immediately after the combine. We walked over from the stadium,

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Speaker 2: like some guys that like these are just they're the

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Speaker 2: cream of the crop. They're the dogs that are there.

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Speaker 2: They're the dudes like everything that happened here supports the film.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna be top picks. And we'll talk about one

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Speaker 2: That's why we got so much time between Senior Bowl

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Speaker 2: ten Defensive Edge podcast, he was your number one and

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Speaker 2: he's not here or he wanted to be here. He

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Speaker 2: We're all speculating here. But now he's not doing anything.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And so I think that that's where. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: But again this is it's important when you hear stuff

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Speaker 1: gonna be fine, it's not a detrimental injury. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: of your It's to accent things you already know or

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Speaker 1: make you question things already know. And so we knew

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Speaker 1: about the shoulder. The foot thing is a little bit

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Speaker 1: Abdual Carter. But to kind of piggyback off that point,

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Speaker 1: you know, Mason Graham doesn't really do anything today, no running,

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Speaker 1: than everybody thought. He's six', two he's two ninety. Five

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Speaker 1: So but that's a lot of weight to slim, down,

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Speaker 2: Right there's walking around weight and then there's fighting, weight

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Speaker 1: Different, yeah BUT i think when we saw him do

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Speaker 2: He doesn't stand out when you just look at him

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Speaker 1: AND i will say his, film he stands out on. Film, yeah,

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Speaker 1: the film when you see a guy who's got suboptimal arm,

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Speaker 1: he doesn't do any running or jumping. Events so it.

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Speaker 1: Does that does to me calling to a question a

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Speaker 1: Sense can he kind of play with that same strength

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Speaker 1: guys AND i think he. CAN i Love Mason. GRAHAM

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Speaker 2: Excellent gon do you don't think he's gonna drop or.

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Speaker 2: ANYTHING i think he. Might here may be a team

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Speaker 1: He goes from like a surefire top five to probably

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Speaker 2: The combine really do that doesn't have that much.

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Speaker 1: Weight it's more it just brings up a, question, Right

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Speaker 1: was LIKE i thought this guy was three hundred and twenty,

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Speaker 1: pounds he's. Not he's three ninety. Five he's got short,

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Speaker 1: is not, immediate, Right it's not the same impact. Stuff,

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Speaker 1: now he's a special football. Player came and started as

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Speaker 1: a freshman At, michigan like he started for the last three.

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Speaker 1: Years he's been physically dominant against the best, teams the

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Speaker 1: best best teams in college. Football, so, like his resume is,

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Speaker 1: awesome but it does just add a little bit of a.

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Speaker 1: QUESTION i do think there are teams that will take

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Speaker 1: right there's a reason teams have minimal, threshold minimum. Threshold

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Speaker 1: it's like there's a Reason jacksonville drafted A walker Over,

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Speaker 1: it didn't meet their minimum arm threshold for an edge

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Speaker 1: rusher in THE. Nfl so that is. Something, now that's

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Speaker 1: a silly, thing, RIGHT i think it's, silly like if

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Speaker 2: Reason, Yeah SO i wanted to ask you about. THAT

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Speaker 2: just this is not based on. Anything this is just

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Speaker 2: i feel like THE nfl right now is kind of

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Speaker 2: bucking trends in a way when it comes to example

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Speaker 2: Bryce young and look at Like Dylan gabriel who's in,

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Speaker 2: now like wide, receiver look At Tank dell and look

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Speaker 2: At Tes. Johnson that's going to be a team is

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Speaker 2: going to draft a guy who is in a very

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Speaker 2: low percentile. Height, wait and it used to be, well

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Speaker 2: you can't do, this he can't do, that he can't do,

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Speaker 2: this And Bryce young struggled to, start but he ended

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Speaker 2: the year pretty. Well and, like so my point is is,

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Speaker 2: where it's, Like, okay he's five, eleven but maybe you

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Speaker 2: can still play quarterback because he's so talented. Here and it's,

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Speaker 2: LIKE i guess there are exceptions to the. Rule i'm

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Speaker 2: not saying that rules are getting thrown out the, window

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Speaker 2: But i'm saying that more teams are willing to take

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Speaker 2: a chance on the.

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Speaker 1: EXCEPTION i think that's one hundred percent. Right BUT i

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Speaker 1: think it's important to remember we talked about this all the.

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Speaker 1: Time the draft is about mitigating, risk and so some

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Speaker 1: teams are not okay with the risk associated with, outliers

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Speaker 1: especially big. Outliers And i'm not saying, that you, Know

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Speaker 1: Mason graham's an, outlier but he's, shifted like the bucket

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Speaker 1: that he's in has. Shifted he was, this he was

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Speaker 1: six y, four he was three, twenty and everyone assumed

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Speaker 1: with that heighten that, weight he would have at least

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Speaker 1: thirty three inch. Arms now he's six two AND i

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Speaker 1: think six two and a, half he's two ninety. Five

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Speaker 1: he's shrunk significantly and he's got on the shortest side of.

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Speaker 1: Arms so, again he's a tremendous football. PLAYER i think

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Speaker 1: he's gonna be fine THE. NFL i don't have any

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Speaker 1: problems drafting, him BUT i would be willing to best Where,

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Speaker 1: yes now all of a, sudden now there's a little

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Speaker 1: bit more risk associated with the, pick and there's other

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Speaker 1: picks that are less risky because of because they fit

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Speaker 1: those traditional. Molds and, again this not an indictment of

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Speaker 1: him as a football. Player his film is, awesome but

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Speaker 1: remember there is a little bit of a projection to

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Speaker 1: these ideal, sizes especially on the offensive, line it really

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Speaker 1: shows up with offensive defensive. Lineman LIKE i think there

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Speaker 1: WAS i think The athletic did a study recently where they, said,

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Speaker 1: like who are the starting offensive tackles with arm length

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Speaker 1: shorter than thirty three? Inches AND i think they could

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Speaker 1: Years so, like there's a reason that that those are

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Speaker 2: Thing they're, okay, Sorry i'm just devil's avage.

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Speaker 1: Confirmation, YEAH i think.

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Speaker 2: That but also like if teams are like if they

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Speaker 2: have this set in their, mind like if it's universal

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Speaker 2: across THE nfl in a way where like our threshold

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Speaker 2: is thirty four, inches then we're just not drafting as

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Speaker 2: many thirty four guys with less than thirty four, Inches

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Speaker 2: so that aggregate is not even in. There but that's

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Speaker 2: not everybody, is, okay so tell me.

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Speaker 1: How but that's not true. THOUGH i think a good

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Speaker 1: example that's here In, washington, right we Draft Sam, cosby

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Speaker 1: WHO i thought was a very athletic offensive lineman in.

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Speaker 1: College he had the number ONE ris score for offensive

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Speaker 1: lineman his year coming out Raw athletics scorer AS ras

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Speaker 1: and they let him play. Tackle they played right tackle

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Speaker 1: for a couple like a year right When ron first

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Speaker 1: drafted him, here AND i think you could see his

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Speaker 1: limitations from a length standpoint very early. On obviously tremendous,

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Speaker 1: footwork tremendous, balance but the length kind of ate him

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Speaker 1: up and then he him in a guard and he's.

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Speaker 1: Fine so, people, yeah he's a.

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Speaker 2: Fantastic, yeah better than.

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Speaker 1: Fine people still draft offensive lineman with thirty two in.

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Speaker 1: Charms it's just it's like a natural selection process on

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Speaker 1: the offensive. Line there's other positions where this is not as, important,

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Speaker 1: right but it does tend to weed those guys out

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Speaker 1: of those. Positions Alex kappa is one of the best

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Speaker 1: guards in THE. Nfl he started his career at tackle

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Speaker 1: for The New England patriots and eventually he just weeds

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Speaker 1: down and becomes the guard because that's where the more

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Speaker 1: natural fit. Is he's still a good offensive, lineman he's

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Speaker 1: still valuable to your. Team it's just that length variable

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Speaker 1: for tackle is incredibly. Significant so that's why for, tackle

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Speaker 1: for defensive, linemen those length, measurements because you're dealing with

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Speaker 1: these big, bodies these big. Athletes it's. Significant so not always.

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Speaker 1: Right so like The Tes johnson, THING i think it's

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Speaker 1: a really interesting, conversation which we'll talk about probably more with.

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Speaker 1: RECEIVERS i think you can find a role for, Him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah thank. You we'll definitely talk about him On.

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Speaker 1: Saturday, yeah BUT i think you can find roles for

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Speaker 1: guys like. That, Yeah because it's becoming a space. Game

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Speaker 1: so the, length the, size the physicality is slightly less

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Speaker 1: of you can mitigate. It, yes you can mitigate it

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Speaker 1: with offensive, line especially with how much you're throwing the. Football,

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Speaker 1: now it's very hard to.

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Speaker 2: Mitigate so then we talked about offensive. Line but let's

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Speaker 2: move back to. Defense and like one of the reasons

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Speaker 2: that these guys are, dogs they're that dude's at the

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Speaker 2: top and the combine supports. That, here like one of

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Speaker 2: those guys With Shamar, stewart The edge From TEXAS a AND.

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Speaker 2: M because he looks fantastic on film and then he

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Speaker 2: measures well here he's. Explosive well here everything he didn't do,

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Speaker 2: drills but everything's lining up. Right so that's where it's, like,

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Speaker 2: okay so he's fitting into all these thresholds we have

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Speaker 2: and he looks.

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Speaker 1: Good, Yes so so the thing with him is THAT

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Speaker 1: i would say his film does not always support the

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Speaker 1: athlete that he measured.

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Speaker 1: RIGHT i think that's the thing With, Samar like you,

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Speaker 1: know you know, me like look at, Me, Jason LIKE

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Speaker 1: i Love Shamar, Stewart, Right I'm i'm his number one.

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Speaker 1: Fan but he only had one and a half sacks last, Year,

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Speaker 1: right he only had one and a half sacks the

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Speaker 1: year prior to. That in twenty twenty, Three so.

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Speaker 2: CAN i throw something out here if you're gonna watch him.

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Speaker 2: Again one of the REASONS i think he had only

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Speaker 2: one and a half sacks is because he looks like

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Speaker 2: He's i'm trying to think of like an analogy for.

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Speaker 2: It it's like my dog WHEN i have a treat

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Speaker 2: AND i throw it up in the air and she,

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Speaker 2: like there's you can see it in her. Mind she

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Speaker 2: loses her mind for a. Second it's, like oh my,

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Speaker 2: gosh there's a, truck and like her coordination just. Goes

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Speaker 2: AND i feel like that's kind of what he. Is

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Speaker 2: he is such a wild. Man he gets there so

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Speaker 2: fast and he gets so excited that like his technique

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Speaker 2: just somewhat. Goes he had so many near, sacks so,

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Speaker 2: many and it's one of those things where like if

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Speaker 2: he can just if a coach can just grab him

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Speaker 2: and be, like hey, man let this slow down for

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Speaker 2: you when you get. THERE i think it's that one

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Speaker 2: and a half could easily have been seven or eight

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Speaker 2: because he had a lot that were right. There.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, NO i totally, agree, Man AND i think that's

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Speaker 1: the thing about, im like twenty one years. Old it's

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Speaker 1: the thing he's. Young he's like he's the classic like defensive,

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Speaker 1: line what do we talk about defensive, lineman production and.

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Speaker 1: Athleticism if you're a freak, athlete we can make it,

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Speaker 1: work especially if you're a pretty good run defender in.

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Speaker 1: College and he's a great he's a monster and he

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Speaker 1: plays hard as all. Outdoors so, yeah when he, RUNS

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Speaker 1: i think it was a four, four five or six.

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Speaker 1: Something i've got it on my little handy dandy thing over.

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Speaker 1: Here i'll look it up in a. Second but the

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Speaker 1: thing is is, that like he's got the, Armlength he's

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Speaker 1: got thirty four and one eighth inch. Arms he weighed

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Speaker 1: in it to sixty, seven he's six.' five he's got

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Speaker 1: everything you. Possibly want. He had the broad jump was.

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Speaker 1: Tremendous today vertical jump was. Forty, inches, like.

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Speaker 2: Yeah his broad jump was the Same As exavior worthy.

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Speaker 2: Last year so a guy that's he was what one eighties?

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Speaker 1: Something, like no he was one.

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Speaker 2: Sixty seven, oh yeah, you're right, much smaller. Much smaller

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Speaker 2: he's at the. Inner act but if he's able to,

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Speaker 2: jump that And then schamar comes in here at the

430
00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:14,960
Speaker 2: size that he is, sixty six what did he.

431
00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,520
Speaker 1: Weigh in here to sixty seven to, sixty.

432
00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:19,679
Speaker 2: Seven like a little smaller than what he was listed,

433
00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,560
Speaker 2: in college but probably slimming down to run, this forty

434
00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,879
Speaker 2: but like to be able to jump That With xavier worthy, is,

435
00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:28,960
Speaker 2: explosive explosive.

436
00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:29,760
Speaker 1: And so he did everything you want him to. Do

437
00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:31,800
Speaker 1: today so he's he's, the, dude right he's a he's a.

438
00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,480
Speaker 1: Physical freak he does everything, you WANT and, i think

439
00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:37,000
Speaker 1: like that's why he'll probably go, TOP fifteen i, would.

440
00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:38,840
Speaker 1: ASSUME right i think someone sees that and says that's

441
00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,600
Speaker 1: too good to, pass up especially given his film is

442
00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:43,919
Speaker 1: not the production's, not there, but again the, work ethic

443
00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:47,080
Speaker 1: the dog mentality is. Totally THERE so i think like

444
00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:49,879
Speaker 1: HE'S he's i think there's a lot of people That

445
00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,320
Speaker 1: say Land and jackson won the, combine TODAY and I

446
00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:54,760
Speaker 1: think Land and jackson had a. Great Day But shamar stewart,

447
00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:56,120
Speaker 1: to me was the one that kind, of, said hey

448
00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:57,760
Speaker 1: because he didn't run.

449
00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:00,960
Speaker 2: The, Drills yees stewart didn't run, the drill So and. Jackson,

450
00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,479
Speaker 2: Did YEAH and i think that. That's why and by,

451
00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:05,359
Speaker 2: the way we're Talking about jackson Who's.

452
00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:07,920
Speaker 1: From, Arkansas yeah Land and Jackson, from arkansas and he

453
00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:09,480
Speaker 1: had a tremendous. Day too he came in a little

454
00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:10,879
Speaker 1: bit lighter than he was At The. Shrine bowl HE

455
00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:14,720
Speaker 1: was i think he was six five and three quarters

456
00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,280
Speaker 1: and he was two hundred and sixty seven, pounds also

457
00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:20,480
Speaker 1: but had a forty and a half, inch vertical had

458
00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:22,880
Speaker 1: a ten to nine, broad jump which is a little

459
00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:26,160
Speaker 1: shorter than some mars but and he ran a four six.

460
00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:29,520
Speaker 1: Eight forty so like for a guy that's kind of, this, big,

461
00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:33,280
Speaker 1: hulking bruising hard nose edge shetting, defensive end those are

462
00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:36,360
Speaker 1: tremendous explosive measurements AND so i think to see, him

463
00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:38,080
Speaker 1: again he's a little. BIT stiff i think that shows

464
00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:39,720
Speaker 1: up in the, drill work but he doesn't bother me

465
00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:41,600
Speaker 1: because THAT'S what i knew he was as, an, Athlete

466
00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:43,439
Speaker 1: right but to see him, move around to see, the

467
00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,680
Speaker 1: physicality see, the, leadership like he had a, tremendous day

468
00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:48,600
Speaker 1: and so, to Me he's Him and schamar are like

469
00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:50,720
Speaker 1: two of my favorite players in, this draft right because they,

470
00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:54,160
Speaker 1: play hard, they're big, physical guys and so like they

471
00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,280
Speaker 1: came OUT and I think shamar did EXACTLY what i

472
00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,600
Speaker 1: expect him to do And landed jackson kind of exceeded expectations,

473
00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,399
Speaker 1: quite honestly BECAUSE he i didn't think he was that,

474
00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,880
Speaker 1: explosive basically and so to see him have that level

475
00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:06,960
Speaker 1: of twitch and movement was.

476
00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:10,480
Speaker 2: Incredibly impressive he also Looks like James, BOND villain i

477
00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:12,520
Speaker 2: says it sometimes every time he, Pops up, i'm like

478
00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:17,200
Speaker 2: he looks like he just wants on. To die so

479
00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:21,119
Speaker 2: another guy that KIND of i want to bring Up Is.

480
00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:25,520
Speaker 2: Mike green because he didn't. PARTICIPATE here i think that's.

481
00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:28,040
Speaker 2: A choice i don't know that there's any injury or anything,

482
00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:30,720
Speaker 2: like THAT so i think it's a choice right as

483
00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:32,960
Speaker 2: Far AS i'm. I know so why do you think

484
00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:34,760
Speaker 2: he chose not to? Do it do you think that helps?

485
00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,919
Speaker 2: Or hurts because all the other top end Guys, except

486
00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,760
Speaker 2: carter who said he would have if it wasn't for.

487
00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,280
Speaker 2: His injuries do you think that's a wise choice to

488
00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:44,240
Speaker 2: just let's.

489
00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,679
Speaker 1: Just talk through it. Real Quick so carter didn't, Do It,

490
00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,680
Speaker 1: abdill carter the two guys from my house state didn't

491
00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,560
Speaker 1: run their forties or do any. Explosive, measurements obviously say

492
00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,679
Speaker 1: did The Field jack sawy did the field work for

493
00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,720
Speaker 1: my house date defensive end number. Thirty Three tom malau

494
00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,240
Speaker 1: did not, you know he didn't do, Anything here, so

495
00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,440
Speaker 1: again like there are guys that didn't do a whole lot.

496
00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:08,320
Speaker 1: Of Stuff, kenneth grant the defensive Tackle, for michigan also didn't.

497
00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,399
Speaker 1: Test here he measured and all that kind. Of Stuff

498
00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,560
Speaker 1: So mike green kind of followed that. Same MODEL and

499
00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,560
Speaker 1: i think now with the way the, combine's going if

500
00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,239
Speaker 1: you're not going to run, fast here don't run like

501
00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:21,280
Speaker 1: your agent's so locked in with, your trainer they know

502
00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,480
Speaker 1: exactly what you're. Gonna run if you're not going to run,

503
00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,679
Speaker 1: fast here and you have an opportunity to run at

504
00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:29,840
Speaker 1: your prode, save it run at YOUR prote i am a.

505
00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,840
Speaker 1: Little bit it's a little bit concerning. With, him again

506
00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,880
Speaker 1: his film, is awesome but it's against lower, level competition

507
00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,760
Speaker 1: so you're always kind, of like how does? This translate and, he,

508
00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:40,840
Speaker 1: says oh look at the dominant reps he had At The.

509
00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:42,960
Speaker 1: Senior bowl and we've talked about this before in, the

510
00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,879
Speaker 1: show like he had one dominant rep but a lot

511
00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:47,679
Speaker 1: of other reps that were just kind of if you

512
00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,240
Speaker 1: didn't know That Was, mike green you wouldn't be hyping, it,

513
00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,119
Speaker 1: up right AND so I think i need to see

514
00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:56,760
Speaker 1: a little bit more of that high athletic upside. From

515
00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:58,879
Speaker 1: him AND so i was really hoping he'd come, in

516
00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,520
Speaker 1: shouody run, four five seven and, take us take us,

517
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:06,760
Speaker 1: spikes off walk in the. Locker room all questions, are answered, jump.

518
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,040
Speaker 1: High whatever but he's not gonna, do that and so

519
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,120
Speaker 1: he might be not happy with. His training they're, gonna

520
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,000
Speaker 1: wait they'll do it At the. Marshall protate but it

521
00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,800
Speaker 1: does kind, of say like, for me And again i'm just,

522
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,919
Speaker 1: One person like That's something i'm gonna be watching very

523
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:21,840
Speaker 1: closely as we get closer to the draft because if

524
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,040
Speaker 1: you are not your build as a top flight, pass

525
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,359
Speaker 1: rusher if you're not a top flight, pass rusher like

526
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,960
Speaker 1: your explosive measurements are, not good your forty is. Not

527
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:30,960
Speaker 1: good and, BY forty i mean like your ten yards

528
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,560
Speaker 1: split is not is not a good ten. Yard split

529
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:34,400
Speaker 1: so it's not one five.

530
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,240
Speaker 2: To five why does ten yard split matter for?

531
00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,520
Speaker 1: An edgeraction it MATTERS because i think it shows kind

532
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:42,639
Speaker 1: of that horizontal propulsion that's required for, getting Sacks Like

533
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:44,479
Speaker 1: dan quinn talked about in this pressure the, other day

534
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,840
Speaker 1: the local scrum that he did With like Jpe And

535
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,280
Speaker 1: sam fortyer basically, SAYING like i want the guy that

536
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,280
Speaker 1: can beat you to. The spot those guys With Like

537
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,679
Speaker 1: chop robinson, Last, year, like yeah not the most refined,

538
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:54,760
Speaker 1: pass rusher but he's got this.

539
00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:56,200
Speaker 2: Trump crossis ten. Yards.

540
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 1: Split, yeah ever yeah for a guy over two hundred and, fifty,

541
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 1: Pounds right and so he can beat you to. The

542
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 1: spot and that's always going to stress the. Offensive, line

543
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 1: mean even if you're not that. Technically sound so, with him,

544
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 1: You Know, mike green he's very technically sound as a,

545
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 1: pass rusher but you still need that ability to stress

546
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 1: these guys that are these, left tackles these right tackles

547
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,160
Speaker 1: that are, six six they got thirty four inch arms

548
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,120
Speaker 1: and they move like. Basketball players like you just need.

549
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 1: That ability and so when You See shamar stewart, do

550
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:21,920
Speaker 1: it when You see Land and jackson, do it these

551
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 1: guys that were kind of lesser athletes, quote unquote like

552
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 1: their answering the bell from a physicality and. Mentality Standpoint

553
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 1: but i'm Not Saying mike. Green won't, but again you

554
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 1: know his arms are thirty two inches a little on the.

555
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 1: Short side that's, not fatal but these are all things where,

556
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 1: you're like show me that you belong here from an,

557
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 1: athletic standpoint, And again. I'm disappointed he's got to do

558
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 1: what's right, for HIM and i think. DEFINITELY does i

559
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,359
Speaker 1: think this is what's right. For Him but i'm Going

560
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,359
Speaker 1: to i'm paying attention and we're going to talk. About

561
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 1: it when he runs, A forty we're going to talk

562
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:50,440
Speaker 1: about it on.

563
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:54,159
Speaker 2: This, show yeah it's almost like the less he starts

564
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 2: to do because. He didn't he stopped After The. Senior

565
00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 2: bowl he's not doing much At, The kammain so it's

566
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:04,919
Speaker 2: it's almost like he and it's almost like he's he's kind, of, like,

567
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 2: OH okay i got this allure around me, right now

568
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 2: So like i'm not going to mess. With THAT like

569
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,200
Speaker 2: i have a positive vibe, going ON so i don't

570
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 2: want to do anything to screw. THAT up a part

571
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,920
Speaker 2: of me, is like that's. Really smart that's a really smart.

572
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:20,200
Speaker 2: Business decision your agent's telling you to. Write thing another part,

573
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,640
Speaker 2: of me and maybe this IS because i just want

574
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,879
Speaker 2: the content RIGHT and i want to. Watch it another

575
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:26,400
Speaker 2: part of me, is like, all right, what's, Wrong man

576
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 2: like where's your competitive drive and? Competitive needture but, THEN

577
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 2: again i don't want to mess with this, guy's.

578
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 1: MONEY right i think that's the other thing, is, Like

579
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 1: Uh malik williams did not run, a, forty right and

580
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 1: he's THE guy i want's talk. About him is the

581
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,160
Speaker 1: high freak upside that's going to break into the, top

582
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,120
Speaker 1: fifteen maybe top ten as. A player like those are.

583
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 1: Big decisions so it wasn't just him that wasn't, Doing

584
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 1: IT but i do think there's more questions about him

585
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,360
Speaker 1: because the level. Of competition so that's Something that i'm

586
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 1: just kind of trying to pay. Attention to, and again

587
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 1: where there's a lot of guys that didn't, do IT

588
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,200
Speaker 1: and i think that's totally fine coming off a long,

589
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,879
Speaker 1: football season it might not be. Totally healthy you just

590
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 1: Talked about I'd do carter with, The shoulder like it's

591
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 1: not a criticism, of him but it just does raise

592
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 1: a question because the level of competition that he played

593
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 1: Against at Marshall whe, YOU'RE like i want that data point, for,

594
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 1: Something right but, THEN again i go Back To. DRAKE

595
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 1: london i know we're talking about, Receivers Now drake lundon

596
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:17,639
Speaker 1: never ran a forty, coming OUT and i, WAS like

597
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 1: i need to see him run. A, forty yeah but

598
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 1: he's been FINE, the nfl like because he's just a good.

599
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,679
Speaker 1: Football player so this might be just, you KNOW my

600
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 1: nfl traditionalism TELLING me i need to see SOMETHING that

601
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 1: i don't need. To see the film's, good enough for sure.

602
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,159
Speaker 1: IT is i can't shake it from the back of.

603
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 1: My mind there is.

604
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:35,160
Speaker 2: Something about the keep, them guessing or like if you don't,

605
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 2: see it then you don't know that, It's bad like

606
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:39,680
Speaker 2: you can always just like you KNOW what, i mean

607
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 2: it's not confirming, something's bad Not That drake london would

608
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,920
Speaker 2: have had a. Bad forty people can sometimes say, oh

609
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,639
Speaker 2: well like a lot, of media a lot of PODCASTS

610
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 2: that i, listened to, they'll, say, oh well he needs

611
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,399
Speaker 2: to come out and he needs to run this. Time

612
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 2: right and then, it's, like Well if i'm not going to,

613
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,120
Speaker 2: do that and you've already set this arbitrary approach mark

614
00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 2: for no reason like that, YOU created i, Didn't create

615
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,919
Speaker 2: no one created you created it, The media, so like

616
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,159
Speaker 2: WHY would i do that? To myself? The issue AND

617
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 2: so I Get mike green. WITH that i think the

618
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,400
Speaker 2: Thing With mike green that's a little interesting is that

619
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 2: there's a lot. Of those, for me there's.

620
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 1: A lot of like, you're saying the level, of competition

621
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 1: It's The, senior blie.

622
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 2: It's just a bunch of yeah after only one, big

623
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,879
Speaker 2: play and like it's just it's just a lot of,

624
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 2: those boxes not. Just one it's not just, a forty

625
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 2: it's not, Just this it's not just that Like a

626
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 2: tovandre sweat, last year right At The, senior bowl he didn't,

627
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,120
Speaker 2: weigh in and it, was like how big is? This

628
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 2: dude and a part of it, Was, Like hey i'm going,

629
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 2: To play i'm, Gonna hustle I'm gonna i'm gonna do

630
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 2: everything but give you, my weight keep you guys, Guessing

631
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,120
Speaker 2: right and there was something about THAT that i kind

632
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 2: of liked because it's Like just i'm going to check off.

633
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 2: Every box so if this is the only box you,

634
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 2: care about.

635
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 1: Then fine and then he did win the combine gave.

636
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 2: Himself Time So mike green, has time he has. Pro

637
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 2: day there's a lot of time between now and. The

638
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,159
Speaker 2: DRAFT and I Like mike green. A LOT remember i

639
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 2: calmed Them The Bruce, LAE like i think this dude.

640
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 2: Is awesome i'm. Just curious i'm really curious. About HIM

641
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 2: and i really wanted to see him today go uh

642
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 2: not up against but, you know in the same line

643
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 2: and watch. Him go it is Too Especially James pierce

644
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 2: Junior the Edge, from tennessee because, to me they play

645
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 2: kind of the same in the same kind, of.

646
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 1: Bill they play kind of, The same they got the

647
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:31,640
Speaker 1: same kind, of, juice seemingly, YOU know I Think mike

648
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 1: green is a, much better more diverse, pass, rusher yes

649
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 1: if that. Makes sense And then pierce is kind of

650
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 1: the guy that again has this great vertical juice and

651
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 1: we saw, that, today right he had a really solid,

652
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 1: vertical jump great. Broad jump he ran the four four

653
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 1: Seven forty like that's exactly just, checking, boxes right just

654
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,919
Speaker 1: checking checking, the box checking. The boxes like everything that

655
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 1: he did today you saw, on film and so that

656
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 1: that's what you're. Expect him you see him do the

657
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 1: drops and you see him on, the hoop and it's

658
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 1: super smooth, and effortless and that's the kind of athlete

659
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 1: you Want to So when I'M a Gm and i'm

660
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,679
Speaker 1: trying to, Mitigate risk, i'm, Like okay like he is

661
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 1: the athlete that we saw, on FILM and i think

662
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 1: that that's kind of what we're asking for and then

663
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 1: another guy, you know talking about To Defend mike green

664
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 1: here that's not doing anything Today Is jalen Walker. From,

665
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 1: georgia yeah he's supposed to be a top five pick

666
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 1: on some. People's boards he measured at six, to one

667
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 1: he waited in it to forty three and his arms

668
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 1: were thirty. One inches and so for a guy that

669
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 1: is moonlighting again is an off ball linebacker and an, Edge,

670
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 1: rusher like does that change your perspective of him a?

671
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,199
Speaker 1: Little bit it does? For, me, Yeah absolutely so like

672
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 1: these are, the same it's the Same As.

673
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 2: Mike green it Feels like i'm Picking On.

674
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: Mike green, but yeah but you're you're calling out a,

675
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:39,479
Speaker 1: point HERE and i just think it's good to kind

676
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 1: of point out some of these other guys that didn't.

677
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 1: Do anything, and again like, for Me Like malik walker

678
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 1: WAS one i was really wanted to see RUN because

679
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 1: i wanted to see him go toe to Toe With

680
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 1: shamar stewart because they're they're kind of buildings, the same big.

681
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 1: Freaky guys but if you're not going to be big

682
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 1: and freaky with, low production then what are we actually?

683
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 1: Doing here so those are just some guys that these

684
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,719
Speaker 1: are always the kind of interesting storyline that. Come, out

685
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: again we always go back to. The film that's the.

686
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 1: Main thing but now there's just a little bit of

687
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 1: like a. Question mark, you know It doesn't we're not

688
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 1: moving guys drastically because, of THIS but i want to

689
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 1: go back and rewatch him stuff, and say maybe he's

690
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 1: not as ATHLETIC as, i thought or why you Know what.

691
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: I'm saying it just just forces. A reevaluation one of the.

692
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 2: Cool THINGS that i Liked About james pierce today and

693
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 2: you mentioned it, to me is that he was wearing

694
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 2: orange shoes and, you said, you know if an agent

695
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 2: smart and maybe his agent did this is says if

696
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 2: you have something that you excel at and you can

697
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 2: kind of like make yourself seen and, pinpoint that like

698
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 2: if your, footbook's great if you're a freaky athlete, or

699
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 2: something wear some bright shoes like, stand out have a

700
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 2: certain stype of type of, hair cut right.

701
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 1: Because they kind of give you. A uniform but if

702
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 1: you can kind of like it's funny, in line you'll

703
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 1: be watching kind of. Guy go, you know there's twenty

704
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 1: five guys that'll go guy, go guy and, you're, like

705
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 1: oh it's the dude with the. Blue, gloves oh it's

706
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 1: the guy with the. Pink shoes oh it's the guy

707
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: with the afro or the long hair or the ponytail

708
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 1: or whatever. It is and so you just kind of.

709
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 1: Recognize them and if you're doing, good stuff that recognition.

710
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 1: Is AMPLE and i think, that's like, for example, uh

711
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 1: OH the DJ from ucla wore blue, gloves, today right

712
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 1: he wore, blue gloves AND so i, was like there

713
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 1: he is, in LINE and i know it's.

714
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 2: You, know exactly and, he's like look. At me that's what.

715
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 1: It is it's a look.

716
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 2: At me i'm going to wear. The UNIFORM but i

717
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 2: have so much confidence HERE that i want everyone to

718
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 2: Know when i'm going and Watch what i'm.

719
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 1: About there and his energy, Is tremendous like he's getting

720
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 1: up there and he's talking smack to the defensive. Line

721
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 1: coach he's running the hoop drill and he's, Like saying,

722
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 1: i'm ready you're, not ready and, you know and it's

723
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 1: cool to see that kind. Of energy and again he's

724
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 1: and the thing about him is like we wanted to see.

725
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 1: That energy we wanted to see the kind of the

726
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 1: the physicality that he brought the emotion that. He brought

727
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 1: he brought it and then he didn't run a, Fordy,

728
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 1: either right he didn't. Do it he jumps like he

729
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 1: looked a little stiff in some of the, field work

730
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 1: but like that's how he looks. In college but this

731
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 1: is why he's not a top. Ten, pick yes that's a,

732
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 1: Great right like is some of it.

733
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 2: Not that he didn't, do them it's that some of,

734
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 2: these negatives but. The positives today he, Was like i'm

735
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 2: going to show, you here HERE'S what I can i have.

736
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 1: For YOU and i think that that is again LIKE

737
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: we i, like him he's one of my favorite players in,

738
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 1: the draft but understanding like where he's going to go

739
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: potentially and then his role on, your, Team RIGHT like

740
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: i think that's the other thing is like he's going

741
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 1: to be, to Me He's frankie luvu like almost one.

742
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 1: To one like he's, incredibly emotional he's. Incredibly passionate he's

743
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 1: reckless as a player a little, Bit right he's got,

744
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 1: tremendous physicality it's a tremendous confidence and he can rush for.

745
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 1: Multiple spots that doesn't change seeing him run a tight. Hoop,

746
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: drill chris he was tied At The. Senior bowl he's

747
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 1: tied on the FILM, at ucla so he's exactly who,

748
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 1: he was and it was great to see him bring

749
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 1: that leadership here. Today too SO.

750
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 2: And, i, HONESTLY logan i thought that here he moved

751
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 2: a little BETTER than i expected. Him, to honestly like,

752
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 2: you're right like when you look back. At him one

753
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 2: of the funniest things about him is that FOR at

754
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 2: ucla for a long time he was an inside linebacker

755
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 2: and then they, were, like oh we're going to make

756
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 2: you a pass rusher for last six games of this

757
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 2: season and he just. Soared off so like he's technically

758
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 2: a little raw and he moves a little bit like

759
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 2: that linebacker, and ASK but i thought he move moved

760
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 2: a little better compared to seeing all these guys GO

761
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,239
Speaker 2: than i expected. HIM to i expect him to be

762
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 2: really raw. AND stiff i thought. HE moved i thought he.

763
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 1: MOVED on, i, mean well he, played linebackers so like

764
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: some of like the drop drills. And stuff he's got background,

765
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 1: in that you KNOW what. I mean but he the tightness.

766
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 1: Is there and again that's not a knock. On him

767
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 1: that's just who he is as an athlete as long

768
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: as you understand that and you're okay, with It and

769
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 1: i'm perfectly fine. With it because the other stuff, he

770
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: does like let's let's knocket out of.

771
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 2: THE park i think that's Why he i'm gonna guess

772
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 2: that he's going to be a second, round guy, maybe

773
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 2: first depending on how. HE knows i think he's going

774
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 2: to be in about that area that the commanders are

775
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 2: going to. BE picked I think i.

776
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 1: Hope he gets he takes a little bit of a

777
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: slide and right there when the commanders have that PICK

778
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 1: from i forget who it is at the top of

779
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 1: THE third i hope he's sitting there and we just

780
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 1: take him in with open arms and say this is.

781
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 1: OUR guy i think that's. A, possibility yeah we're Gonna

782
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 1: do we're gonna do big.

783
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 2: Boards That maybe i'm wrong there and he starts DROPPING

784
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 2: when i put my big, board TOGETHER but i THINK

785
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 2: he i think HE'S gonna i. Don't know it's just

786
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 2: A feeling. I have, I, think o your team see what.

787
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 2: WE see i think that there are a lot of

788
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 2: teams IN the nfl that also love, the motor love

789
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 2: to drive like the person right Like How dan quinn, was,

790
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 2: saying like we're looking for commanders or a lot of

791
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 2: coaches that look for that type of attitude and. Play

792
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 2: style and when you say he's like a one to

793
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 2: One To, frankie luvu like that means a.

794
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 1: Lot to a lot of play it's a.

795
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 2: Good point so they're willing to like KIND of i

796
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 2: don't want to, say reach but they're willing to like

797
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 2: forget some things that they normally. Would get, that, guy

798
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 2: yea that type, of guy that type.

799
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: Of, dog also before we, MOVE on i just wanted

800
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 1: To mention donovan AS a Rocku From. Boston college and

801
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 1: then just because he's very Similar, to, oladejo right he's,

802
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 1: you know he's, six' two he's, two forty three he's

803
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: got forty thirty, four inch arms so really like just

804
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: measures well YOU know. What i mean but didn't run,

805
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: a forty today but in the drill work flashed, as

806
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: an athlete and so one of The things that i'm

807
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 1: concerned about with him is that he doesn't have this top,

808
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,479
Speaker 1: end closing speed but, the athletes, there So like, If

809
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: i'm him i'm gonna hold that card close. To my

810
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: chest but it's different to me because he's going to

811
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 1: be an end of the first kind of early. Second

812
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 1: round pick but it's Different than the. MI green thing

813
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 1: i just keep looking at these names of guys didn't

814
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: run because people go over picking. On my green but

815
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 1: like a lot of, guys didn't run but they are

816
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 1: not going to be a top, fifteen. PICK potentially right

817
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 1: i think. That's the thing they get you, a little

818
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,240
Speaker 1: bit a. Little, bit concerned.

819
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 2: Yeah and let's go into our, last piece here and

820
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 2: that's guys at like little eyebrow raise like it's. A

821
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 2: good thing i needed to rewatch the, swilm, or like

822
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:25,280
Speaker 2: well something here DOESN'T match WHAT i think i saw.

823
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 1: ON film, this i mean there was a bunch. Of

824
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: guys today i'll start with the defensive, tackles JUST because,

825
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 1: like i thought this group was. Just really impressive, and

826
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: the guy the number one guy for, me, THAT was,

827
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,359
Speaker 1: LIKE i mean i was just flat out Impressed With

828
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 1: was Jamiir. Caldwell from oregon he's sixty two, and three

829
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: quarters he's three hundred and thirty four pounds and he

830
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 1: just has these for a man that wide just incredibly

831
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 1: silky smooth hips man just hips you can rush the

832
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 1: past or he's bursty off. Line of scrimmage he ran

833
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 1: a four to, Nine eight today so just really just

834
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 1: a tremendous athlete, just Showed out really and It's Him

835
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: and Af, collins from texas another big body guy that showed.

836
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,919
Speaker 1: The athletic upside so when you're seeing these big dudes move,

837
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 1: so Incredibly well and i'm gonna throw more, guy in

838
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 1: There And it's Taike Williams. From ohio state we were

839
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 1: talking about. Him a ton he's just got this incredibly,

840
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 1: thick lower half, these thick calves he, can change direction he's.

841
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: Got great burst he didn't, run a forty but like in,

842
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: the drill work wow did he pop as a guy

843
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 1: that is that run stopping kind of body type but

844
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 1: is explosive and twitchy and like all of those guys

845
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 1: like really, Like You know Yaya black from iowa was

846
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,919
Speaker 1: another guy that really, Stood out too like just in terms,

847
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: of movement skills you don't see guys this big move

848
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 1: with this. Kind of dexterity and it was a different

849
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 1: kind of defensive TACKLE group than i was expecting because

850
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 1: usually you're looking for the guys that are a little

851
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 1: bit undersized that are crazy bursty the. Pass rush upside

852
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:48,879
Speaker 1: but here we got a bunch of guys, THAT were

853
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: like i, CAN play nosegard i can. Play three technique

854
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,959
Speaker 1: and so those guys in, THAT first, group i mean we're.

855
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 1: Just INCREDIBLY impressive and i got To talk about omar as,

856
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: An Undersized Guy omar Norman lot from tennessee and in

857
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 1: the movement drills. Just so dexterous you, see the explosion

858
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 1: you see the guy the arm, length was there and

859
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: for him to come out after Having A great senior

860
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: bowl and, doing it Here Especially, with walter nolan The

861
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: guy from missisippi is kind of the number one three

862
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 1: technique in this class not, doing anything today not measuring,

863
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 1: or he measured but, he didn't run jump or do

864
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 1: any of. The other testing for him to kind of

865
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,800
Speaker 1: Come In And omar norman lot and do the, testing

866
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 1: and look the movement skills were so. Great like that

867
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: you know everyone talks about defensive tackle. BEING very deep

868
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 1: i just was like my job was almost. On the

869
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: floor like with every guy that went just from a size,

870
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 1: movement skills standpoint like usually you watch, the wave drill

871
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 1: the first drill, of the day and like that. Guy's

872
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 1: too stiff that guy can't get. Out OF cuts and i,

873
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: JUST was like i DON'T know if i could say

874
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,919
Speaker 1: that about anybody. In that group and so to leave

875
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 1: that with that kind of understanding of and there's a,

876
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: couple guys obviously three, or four guys but the majority

877
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 1: of them just crushing the movement stuff today at the

878
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,320
Speaker 1: size and weights that they are. Was incredibly impressive.

879
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 2: Let me ask you about an edge that you pointed

880
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 2: out to me today that, you, were like whoa and

881
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:12,280
Speaker 2: that's the Other EDGE from TEXAS A and. M nick. Squirt.

882
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,879
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, man so again didn't, run a forty didn't

883
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 1: do any kind of explosive, measurement testing today but he

884
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 1: got on the field and so he was an interesting

885
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: guy because in twenty Twenty three at purdue he has

886
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: eleven sacks. Tons of PRESSURE LOOKS dominant TEXTA. A and

887
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 1: m looks a, little bit sluggish not. Quite as explosive

888
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: still an. Effective football player, love the motor, love the intensity.

889
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 1: Love the drive and he got out there and just had, incredibly,

890
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 1: sweet feet, man sweet feet and just hustle and. Drive

891
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 1: to finish he did weigh in at, two fifty seven

892
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 1: which is MUCH lighter than i. Would have. EXPECTED for

893
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 1: him i think he played it close to two eighty

894
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 1: or two Eighty THREE at TEXAS a and m so

895
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 1: obviously cut quite a, bit of weight, but looks great

896
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 1: looks more like He. Did AT perdue and i think

897
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 1: that whoever gave that, advice was, like hey man don't

898
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: need to. Be that big probably the right. Move FOR

899
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 1: him and i just it was one of those things, where,

900
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 1: it's like obviously this athlete from twenty twenty three, is

901
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 1: still there the competitor. Is STILL there and i really

902
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 1: enjoyed watching.

903
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,359
Speaker 2: Work out today who else stood out? To you today

904
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:13,839
Speaker 2: gave you? A, little eyebrows.

905
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 1: Yeah just so the defensive tackle group obviously did their

906
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 1: thing and. REALLY showed Out I, mentioned donovan azerak who

907
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:25,320
Speaker 1: already just really the movement skills were. Off the charts

908
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 1: i've always Been Impressed with Jared Ivy. From old, miss he's,

909
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 1: big he's long, he's you know he's like this kind

910
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: of three, four and, hybrid you KNOW like where i

911
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 1: can play IN a FOUR i or i can play in.

912
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 1: A wide nine probably gonna play more of a six TECHNIQUE.

913
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: In the nfl but he did DROPS today and i

914
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 1: was like to see him move around like. A basketball

915
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 1: player i knew he was, a good athlete but it's

916
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: nice to get a little bit of confirmation biased in some.

917
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,800
Speaker 1: Of those situations we Already Talked About, james PEARCE junior

918
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:56,879
Speaker 1: like i wanted him to come out. And run well

919
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: he came out and. Ran Incredibly well David Walker. From,

920
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 1: central arkansas like he's, six foot flat he's two hundred and,

921
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 1: sixty seven pounds he's, got short arms thirty one and three,

922
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 1: quarter inch arms but he's like considered, a power player

923
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 1: like a power edge that plays. With tremendous MOTOR and

924
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,839
Speaker 1: today i was impressed with his ability to drop and

925
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,320
Speaker 1: move and kind of get his feet and change direction

926
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 1: because at, that body weight, WITH that height i wasn't

927
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: sure how. That, would look. Again interesting prospect i'm not

928
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 1: saying he's going to be a first round, pick or

929
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: anything but a guy that coming from, a small school

930
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 1: playing with the motor and the physicality plays with IS

931
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 1: someone that i would keep, an eye, on you know maybe.

932
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,399
Speaker 1: In later rounds the guy that can do some, damage. For, sure,

933
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 1: excusually so yeah that guy really stuck. Out to, me

934
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 1: and yeah defensive ends a little bit less spicy in

935
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,919
Speaker 1: terms of movement Drills And stuff nick scourtney already talked,

936
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: about BECAUSE yeah he i mean he blew me out, of,

937
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 1: the water Really And then shamar stewart obviously the, testing

938
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: was great but tweaked his looked. Like he's groin he

939
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: had a bunch of ice on his leg after the.

940
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 1: First wave Drill so if I'm him and, I'm his,

941
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,800
Speaker 1: agent i'm like if, there's any question. Don't do anymore

942
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: but those are some guys that really stuck.

943
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 2: Out to, Me all right so who's the last person

944
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 2: that you want to like sign, off with here like

945
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 2: the last taste? In your mouth like maybe it's a

946
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 2: guy that like we haven't, talked about yet or, is

947
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 2: just like, you know what he had, a good day

948
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 2: he deserves a.

949
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 1: Call, OUT here yeah i mean we've kind of talked

950
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 1: about THE guys that i want to talk about from the,

951
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 1: defensive Line group but i'm going to go back to

952
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: the defensive tackle Group and just jamari CALLEDWELL man like

953
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 1: i think he's going to be a. First ROUND pick

954
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,839
Speaker 1: and i wasn't on that. TRAIN Until TODAY i mean

955
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 1: i saw Him At. THE senior bowl, i was like i'

956
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: he'll be a. Second round guy but he's a difference

957
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 1: maker on the, defensive line man a difference maker in,

958
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 1: a way, THAT quite frankly i. Was not expecting and

959
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 1: to see a guy with those that kind of body

960
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 1: composition move with the dexterity that he moved with. Was

961
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 1: INCREDIBLY impressive and i also got to call Out His

962
00:40:55,840 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 1: teammate Derek. Harmon from oregon, he measured well thirty, four

963
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,359
Speaker 1: inch arms thirty four and a, half in charms he's

964
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 1: three hundred, and fourteen pounds he's six four and a

965
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: half and to watch him, move and bend, and you

966
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 1: know they had a clip of him up there on

967
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 1: the jumbo tron today Comparing Him, To chris jones and

968
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 1: obviously that's a lofty, composition or comparison, but the, length

969
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,320
Speaker 1: the bend the kind of flexibility like he's three hundred

970
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 1: and fourteen pounds dropping into coverage looking like it's. Effortless

971
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 1: for him and. SO he, was i mean he's high.

972
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: On everyone's board i'm surprised people aren't talking. About him

973
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:37,439
Speaker 1: more but had a, really great, workout measured. Well ran

974
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 1: well both Those guys from morgan did. A great JOB and,

975
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 1: so I think if i'm going to, leave you know

976
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 1: leave the audience with a good taste. In their mouth

977
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:47,399
Speaker 1: it's Talking about those oregon defensive tackles and just those

978
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 1: guys needs to get, Some. MORE love loogan i had a.

979
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 2: Great time Today These are defensive line some of my favorite,

980
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,760
Speaker 2: guys to watch just because they're so big and freaky

981
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 2: and some OF it's the i, mentioned this before it's

982
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 2: kind of like The bast. And robin's group you have

983
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 2: guys that are big and huge that shouldn't move the way.

984
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:05,240
Speaker 2: They do that you have guys that are a little,

985
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 2: smaller than others but they're, so powerful still and like

986
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:13,399
Speaker 2: you get in anything from like A Absolute like king

987
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 2: kong esque monks are just big and strong, to bristle

988
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 2: like you get that wide variety of guys and watching

989
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 2: them all go together the combine was a. Ton, of

990
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 2: fun also the other thing is it's one thing to WATCH.

991
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 2: IT on tv i love being here and seeing it

992
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 2: because you really get an idea of how. Fast they

993
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 2: are you also get a really good ivy idea about

994
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 2: how big some of. These guys are like for me

995
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,800
Speaker 2: who's an, average sized person you're you're. A huge person

996
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 2: but for me who's an. Average SIZED person whenever, i

997
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 2: see Them even when i'm forty yards, Away from, them

998
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 2: i'm like, oh MY gosh and i can't.

999
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 1: Move like that and you see him walking in, the

1000
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 1: hallways too when you.

1001
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 2: Walk by him these.

1002
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: Guys, are massive yeah and. It's it's impressive it's a.

1003
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 1: Lot of fun it's a. Lot of fun and we

1004
00:42:56,680 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 1: mentioned only a handful of defensive lineman here, defensive tackles

1005
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 1: SPECIFICALLY but there's, i don't know probably five or six

1006
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 1: more guys we. Could, talk about like it's a really

1007
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,320
Speaker 1: DYNAMIC group and i can't wait to. Do defensive tackles

1008
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 1: we're doing that next week maybe. After, the combine yeah

1009
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: kind of breaking. Down some film, so.

1010
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 2: All right so what what? Group goes tomorrow do WE

1011
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 2: have the i.

1012
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 1: THINK we have i think you were telling, me.

1013
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 2: Tight ends receivers, it's, not receivers receivers go RUNNING.

1014
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,800
Speaker 1: Backs or tbs it's tomorrow.

1015
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 2: And tight, ends so yeah THE we'll do dbs on

1016
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 2: tight ends tomorrow will come live from THE. Combine. And

1017
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:35,359
Speaker 2: dbs man we, need bread SMOOTH at, least i do

1018
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 2: but it's going to. Be tight ends that's your. Bread

1019
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 2: and daughter that's.

1020
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 1: Why bread butter i'm excited to. Watch those guys and

1021
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 1: it's a really dynamic tight end. Class this year a lot,

1022
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,439
Speaker 1: of really special, really special athletes hopefully all we haven't

1023
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 1: got word on who's working out. And who's not but

1024
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:49,879
Speaker 1: and then the DB's is fun this year because, there's,

1025
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: some tall long fast kind of freaks that are going

1026
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 1: to put up some really. Awesome TIMES tomorrow but i

1027
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 1: think the more important variable is going to be watching

1028
00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 1: them in the in, the drill, work you know because,

1029
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 1: there's you know guys who've only been playing corner. For

1030
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 1: a year they're, converted wide, receivers you know. They're converted

1031
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 1: safeties so seeing that group is going to be a.

1032
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 2: Lot, of Fun yeah. Thanks wigan dude.

1033
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:09,839
Speaker 1: That's it man it's been a. Lot of fun can't wait.

1034
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 1: Do it tomorrow