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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, man is it's like you

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Speaker 2: see something from a distance and you're like, oh, man,

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Speaker 2: he's a unicorn. He's seventy five, he can do this.

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Speaker 2: He can shoot threes, he can dribble. But that's not

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Speaker 2: the most impressive part about him. Seeing him up close

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Speaker 2: and going to dinners with him and hear in his

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Speaker 2: like my man's conversations would would like you guys think

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Speaker 2: you were talking to like a fifty year old dude,

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Speaker 2: because he's so brilliant the way he prepares and the

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Speaker 2: game means everything to him, you know, And he's like

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Speaker 2: he's like a role player and like this unicorn all

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Speaker 2: in one. Like he's not He's not like, oh okay, man,

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Speaker 2: I'm an unicorn. I should have got the ball right there.

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Speaker 2: He's like, I ain't get it. I'll go chase the rebound. Here,

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Speaker 2: I'll spreading down court. He doesn't care about anything other

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Speaker 2: than like winning. That's all he cares about. Like he

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Speaker 2: knows he's different. He appreciates that. He respects it. With

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Speaker 2: his respect for the game. He wants to talk to

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Speaker 2: the greats. He wants to see what pushed them. He

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Speaker 2: wants to see how it can make him better. Almost

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Speaker 2: like how we hear the Kobe's, Lebron's George, how all

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Speaker 2: them dudes were getting information and he wants all that information,

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Speaker 2: but to see him up close. I say this humbly

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Speaker 2: is one of the best five basketball experiences I've ever had, period.

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Speaker 2: And that's a lie for me, Like winning state championship,

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Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like he's up there on that short list

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Speaker 2: of things in my life basketball wise, with just who

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Speaker 3: I was. I couldn't believe it. I couldnt believe it.

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Speaker 4: A you know, obviously Seattle, Big Pola came from there.

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Speaker 4: He saw Paula grow up and that whole story. So

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Speaker 4: and he was telling me, tell it's a funny story.

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Speaker 4: Paula just told it to me before we got out

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Speaker 3: Yeah so so so Kai comes out.

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Speaker 2: This was going into his last year in Boston ud

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Speaker 2: coming into that last year in Boston, uh, he was like, yo,

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Speaker 2: Let's get it in. So I set up like runs

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Speaker 2: and you know, he's like, yo, you know mattist Staible.

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Speaker 2: I had college guys and Kay's like, yo, what colleague

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Speaker 3: Who's who was? What? The guys he didn't know. He's like, yo,

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Speaker 3: who's that fifteen year old?

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Speaker 2: I said who him? I point to Polo. I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 2: not only because the superstar we knew he would be.

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Speaker 3: To each year he's grown so we have pro runs

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Speaker 2: So he started with just the rebounding dude to graduate

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Speaker 3: I'm the point now. You made me go to be

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Speaker 3: It's someding. I stopped to run and.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't even playing, but I was supposed to play

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Speaker 2: him he could play. I'm like, hold time out, everybody,

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Speaker 2: bring it in. We're here for him. We're not here

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Speaker 2: here for this dude. Jay McDaniels, Zach Lavine, these pros

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Speaker 2: because he's not gonna say it. So I said it

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Speaker 2: we got to assign it, and that's that's part of

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Speaker 3: Give you give your.

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Speaker 3: Because I'll tell you, man, I knew he was gonna

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Speaker 4: Saying, getting getting no pe the way I have and

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Speaker 4: then obviously knowing you like you don't realize who all

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Speaker 1: I don't think the world knows. I don't think the

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Speaker 1: world knows. Y'all got a hoop bed out there, bro,

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Speaker 2: No, No, we do. We really do. And it just

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Speaker 2: Deshonta Murray, Zach Lavine and.

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Speaker 1: You motherfuckers his buckets too. We talk, we talking about

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Speaker 1: you talk. Yeah, we talked about straight up. If yeah,

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Speaker 3: No, no, we come. We come to the arena with

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Speaker 2: Yeah, feel like we overlook we in the northwest part

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Speaker 3: They gonna give you game, they gonna talk to you.

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Speaker 2: I gotta put Doug Christie on their shout out to him,

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Speaker 2: coach and I hate to see Mike Brown get Doug

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Speaker 2: Christie is doing an amazing job.

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Speaker 3: That's my og.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, so it's like it's so accessible and it's

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Speaker 2: the impact in the community the Pros have had because

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Speaker 2: we never left that eighth grader context me, that tenth

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Speaker 2: greater context, Polo, that eleven greater contexts dejonte and get information.

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Speaker 2: Can you break down the steel for me? What you see?

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Speaker 2: I get a gym with you all those things. So

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Speaker 2: now that next generation is already rolling, and that's how

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Speaker 2: we do it up here. I think that's what makes

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Speaker 4: I'll be honest, I'm not. I obviously not from there,

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Speaker 4: the what you're saying is exactly right. I think it's

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Speaker 4: but where because you start seeing it when you're right, Like, damn,

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Speaker 4: these dudes are completely different right here, like they want

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Speaker 3: That doesn't happen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, there's enough for everybody. And I saw Doug

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Speaker 2: Chrissy did it for me. And when I went to

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Speaker 3: If he has a camp, follow us better go.

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Speaker 2: If I'm doing a pro am, ten are coming, If

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Speaker 3: Like That's how it should be.

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Speaker 2: And that's what is special because we all pushed each other,

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Speaker 2: but we're gonna all root for each other as well,

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Speaker 1: Now that's real ship. That's how that ship should be.

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Speaker 1: I love him. I love to hear that.

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Speaker 1: I want to ask you this just recently, James Well,

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Speaker 1: I don't know four point plays like that ship is

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Speaker 1: crazy to even have that kind of record, James Harden

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Speaker 3: Like what the fuck? Damn? This is where it comes from,

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Speaker 2: Sometimes I get them fouls against Miami and you look

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Speaker 3: He had to straight back.

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Speaker 2: But my my ninth grade coach shout to Dom Wavefo

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Speaker 2: I get it from here here and you don't contest,

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Speaker 2: and I'm gonna use that against the Dallas. I'm a gazemanship.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna bring it to the forefront that it's some contact.

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Speaker 2: And at that point that part's easy. I already see

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Speaker 2: the who bro. The hardest part of the four point

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Speaker 1: That ship is in it, that that ship is in this?

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Speaker 1: Do you know that ship was in the scout root

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Speaker 1: was a free throw. It was in the Scouley Report

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Speaker 1: not file him on three?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Four point plays? Like do not file him on threes

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Speaker 1: four point plays? You? You know what, if I'm not

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Speaker 1: mistaken you the reason we probably start side contesting, we

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Speaker 1: do the side the side contest.

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Speaker 5: Now it's this contest from the side killer.

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Speaker 3: You died that.

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Speaker 2: Think about that, right, So if the Scout report is

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Speaker 2: saying don't foil him, mentally, you are give me a

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Speaker 3: You'll be there a little bit. But I already got

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Speaker 3: a free one. I mean.

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Speaker 3: Everybody know that Darius Garland is a sneaky one.

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Speaker 5: Put Chris get to any spot on the court, he won.

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Speaker 2: Oh it's Steph. Steph Curry got one too. I'm sorry, Steph.

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Speaker 5: You see that ship he did last night on the heat.

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Speaker 2: And La mellow Damna put mellow on that.

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Speaker 5: Talk to me about that.

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Speaker 2: Us, but what were doing? I'm gonna be honest. I

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Speaker 3: The guys who are creative and Jah.

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Speaker 2: Polo, Sga, LaMelo, them dudes all stand out, Chef Kyrie

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Speaker 2: three of the layport a free throw. Yes, that's crazy

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Speaker 2: So for me, I think I want to see defense

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Speaker 2: want to see if even my ship works. Shit, I've

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Speaker 3: I want I want guys to stop missing games.

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Speaker 2: If we're gonna gain, if we're gonna low management's low

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Speaker 3: But do y'all remember, do y'all remember when we were

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Speaker 3: I just I want to be out there so bad.

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