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Speaker 2: at it again today. Well, we got a lot to

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Speaker 2: about twenty minutes. We'll have Mark Mendin our NBA Insider

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Speaker 2: We got to start with the Lakers situation right now.

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Speaker 2: There are different layers to this, Olden and one of

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Speaker 2: the things I've been talking about a lot is the

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Speaker 2: fact that and I've been saying this for about a

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Speaker 2: month or so, that this is Lebron James's last year

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Speaker 2: as a Laker. And if you've been listening to Lebron

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Speaker 2: since that final game, he's dropping hints all over the place.

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Speaker 2: So everyone says, well, he's not going to walk away

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Speaker 2: from fifty two million dollars, which is his player option

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Speaker 2: for next year. And I remind people, this guy's a billionaire. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he's a billionaire. The one thing Lebron knows you can't

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Speaker 2: buy is a championship.

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Speaker 3: So if you're Lebron James, please it Well.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we've had a revolving door of champions over

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Speaker 2: in recent years. Here olden, but here's the thing. I mean,

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Speaker 2: at this point of his career. In fact, right after

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Speaker 2: they lost that game five, and we'll get into that

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Speaker 2: whole series, why Minnesota moves on and the Lakers aren't.

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Speaker 2: Somebody asked him, was just like one of them out

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Speaker 2: of nowhere. Instead of talking about the game and what happened,

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Speaker 2: everything goes, hey, what the opportunity to play with Browny

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Speaker 2: this year? Where does that rate for you in your

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Speaker 2: basketball achievements? And he said it trumps anything I've done

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Speaker 2: in basketball, any championship and a record, anything I've done.

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Speaker 2: The number one thing I was able to do that's

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Speaker 2: tops my list is playing with Browny. So you would say, okay, well,

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Speaker 2: that means he wants to stay with Brouny. I'm like, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: you're not hearing him. He did that. Ye done, son,

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Speaker 2: You're on your own.

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Speaker 3: I gave you an opportunity, go with it, and that's

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Speaker 3: a good father.

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Speaker 2: I think I just honestly believe that Lebron is going

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Speaker 2: to opt out. He's going to be a free agent.

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Speaker 2: He's going to look at his opportunities. I don't know,

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Speaker 2: what do you think back to Cleveland's pretty good basketball team.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't have to be the guy, but he could

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Speaker 2: be a guy on a team that could well win

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Speaker 2: a championship. So what are your thoughts about where I

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Speaker 2: stand right now that Lebron James has played his last

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Speaker 2: game as a Los Angeles Laker.

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Speaker 4: Well, the best way for me to say say it

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Speaker 4: is this. We've seen this movie before. Whenever the Lakers

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Speaker 4: lose or whenever Lebron gets knocked out, there's always this

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Speaker 4: moment in this press conference where he has everybody guessing

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Speaker 4: on what he's gonna do, you know, instead of just

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Speaker 4: staying in the moment, you know, And I get it,

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Speaker 4: you know, because he has to stay in the news.

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Speaker 4: It's his thing. And so to me, that's how I'm

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Speaker 4: looking at until this man officially announces he's either retiring,

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Speaker 4: all he wants to trade all he's actually has signed

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Speaker 4: and been traded. I'm not believing anything he's saying. I'm

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Speaker 4: not even listening to anything he's saying at all. Like

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Speaker 4: you said, he did all the things he wanted to do.

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Speaker 4: He's won championships, he's got this scoring title from Koreem,

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Speaker 4: he's got most this most that, he's got every damn record.

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Speaker 4: Most likely right now he's probably he's on wilts but back.

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Speaker 4: But it doesn't mean anything because why is he My

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Speaker 4: question to you, Steve, is why is he still play well?

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Speaker 2: He has to have a reason. A year ago, the

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Speaker 2: reason was the opportunity to play with his son. I

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Speaker 2: mean that, and he just said it there. He just

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Speaker 2: said that was the highlight of his NBA career twenty

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, he checked that box. He got past

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Speaker 2: forty thousand career points. I mean he's checked every box.

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Speaker 2: You've won four NBA championships, you were an NBA Finals

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Speaker 2: MVP with three different franchises, so you've done everything so

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Speaker 2: what is going to motivate him to actually continue to play.

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Speaker 2: He may decide I did it, I'm done, I'm finished,

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Speaker 2: I'm over. All right, Let's go back from the Clippers.

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Speaker 2: Let's go back to the Lakers though. All right, So

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Speaker 2: you're sitting down with Rob Polenka and and you're trying

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Speaker 2: to map out a strategy to let's let's make this clear,

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Speaker 2: make Luca happy, because the one thing they don't have

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Speaker 2: yet is a long term commitment from Luka Doncic. So

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Speaker 2: you have to be full scale sit down with Luca.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you already had your coach make a crack

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Speaker 2: about his conditioning without mentioning by name, but it was

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Speaker 2: pretty clear who he was talking about. That was okay,

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Speaker 2: so you know, yeah, and you didn't mention him, but

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Speaker 2: we all know who's talking about. All right, So you

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Speaker 2: have to sit down with Luca because I'm sure Luca's

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Speaker 2: sitting in there saying, all right, I'm a Laker. Okay,

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Speaker 2: that's cool. The fans have been great to me. I

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Speaker 2: love all that, but I want to win a championship.

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Speaker 2: So what is your game plan? If Lebron returns at

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Speaker 2: fifty two million dollars next year? You are limited in

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Speaker 2: fun that you can use to get a big man

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Speaker 2: of substance that could be a change for this team.

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Speaker 2: And they need multiple bigs, which was in full evidence

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Speaker 2: as the Timberwelves just rained down on them of their

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Speaker 2: big guys. So what is best for the Lakers moving

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Speaker 2: forward with Luca when it comes to the decision that

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Speaker 4: Well, that's the best way to put this. I said

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Speaker 4: it when the trade happened. You can't have two ball

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Speaker 4: dominant guys that are damning identical. You just can't do it,

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Speaker 4: you know. And the funny thing about it, right now,

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Speaker 4: Luca's the only guy at the moment that could catch

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Speaker 4: Lebron's scoring title. Yeah, at the moment. So with that

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Speaker 4: being said, you're gonna have to address Luca because that's

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Speaker 4: the future you gave up Ad and some other pieces,

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Speaker 4: you know, Christy, and so you have to address that.

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Speaker 4: But at the same time, you had the opportunity to

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Speaker 2: The trade failed the physical.

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Speaker 4: I don't care if he fails a physical. You know

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Speaker 4: how mean people failed, but they get passed. So that

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Speaker 4: was a that was a bad decision, And so to me,

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Speaker 4: they're gonna have to go get a big guy that's

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Speaker 4: get Lively, somebody out of Dallas or somebody that's coming up.

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Speaker 4: But you need that type of player because that's what

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Speaker 4: and defending block shots. But at the end of the day,

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Speaker 4: that fifty two million is that thing, that's that elephant

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Speaker 4: in the room. And you still have to address Luca's contract. Yes,

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Speaker 4: so well, I get are you.

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Speaker 2: Here's something else Lebron said this week after the final

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Speaker 2: loss in the playoffs. He said, when asked about Luca's

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Speaker 2: future with the Lakers, Lebron's response is he's twenty six.

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Speaker 2: I'm forty. He can't be thinking about his future with

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Speaker 2: the Lakers when it comes to me because our careers

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Speaker 2: at a very different level right now. So he can't

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Speaker 2: be thinking about what is Lebron going to do in

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Speaker 2: terms of my future with the Lakers. He has to

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Speaker 2: make the best decision for himself. This is another way

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Speaker 2: for Lebron, saying look I did, Mike. You know, when

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Speaker 2: he came to LA. I remember doing a scathing commentary

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Speaker 2: on Lebron James and I said this, if you don't

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Speaker 3: F and I use this.

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Speaker 2: You know, there was an exaggerated grade scale that the

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Speaker 2: grading of Lakers seasons was very simple. Arf A wins

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Speaker 2: the championship if you don't, I mean, it was it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, what about if you get to the NBA Finals,

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Speaker 2: To the Lakers station in LA, and they were talking

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Speaker 2: well I would have given him an A.

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Speaker 2: Minus f F. I mean, he mangled the postseason like

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Speaker 2: few coaches I've ever seen. The only thing that matters

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Speaker 2: on a coach's resume is how you handle the money games,

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Speaker 2: the big games. That separates the Popoviches and the Rileys

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Speaker 2: and those guys that understand how to navigate the postseason

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Speaker 2: from the rest of the pack. Granted was his rookie

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Speaker 2: more miserably in terms of his impact on those games

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Speaker 4: Oh definitely. Now I'm going to tell you this, This

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Speaker 4: is why the great players are great and everybody else

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Speaker 4: the reason I'm bringing this up is to make a

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Speaker 4: the two grades that great players have? Then all of

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Speaker 4: it's a process and it's this and oh is it

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Speaker 4: a failure because we didn't win? No, dude, either when

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Speaker 4: or you don't. It's either an a or in f right,

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Speaker 4: that's it. Why else are you playing? And so to me,

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Speaker 4: that's what they got to understand. And you're right, front

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Speaker 4: office have their job cut out, you know, the coaches

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Speaker 4: have their jobs cut out. One reason why I like Tyler,

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Speaker 4: and I don't know if we're gonna talk about this late,

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Speaker 4: but the one reason I like him. He's four, I know,

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Speaker 4: in close games. Yeah, whereas his predecessor kind of what

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Speaker 4: Doc Rivers is the king of three and once three times,

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Speaker 2: You know, did you hear Doc Rivers? One time was

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Speaker 2: asked about the fact that he's blown three to one

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Speaker 2: serious leads, very rare that it ever happens as a coach.

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Speaker 2: He did it three times. His answer was what bothers

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Speaker 2: me is, I don't get credit for the three wins.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, what are you talking about?

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Speaker 2: How do you still have a job? What did he

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Speaker 2: do with miwak? I just don't beelieve about it, you

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Speaker 2: know how, because you like, if you've been around Doc Rivers,

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Speaker 2: he've been a memory of media. He sweethearts the media.

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Speaker 2: He is so adept at making you like him that

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Speaker 2: you will ignore him. The fact was when he went

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Speaker 2: to the Clippers, they were no better than they were

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Speaker 2: with Vinnie Del Negro as their coach. Fact, they were

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Speaker 2: a fifty five win team. Then all right, well, much

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Speaker 2: more in the NBA playoffs, including a whole breakdown of

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Speaker 2: the game coming up Game seven between the Nuggets and

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Speaker 2: the Clippers. But on the other side, we're gonna get

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Speaker 2: a week to digest what just happened in the NFL

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Speaker 2: draft and what's gonna happen to Aaron Rodgers. What's gonna

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Speaker 2: happen to the Steelers. Are they good with Will Howard

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Speaker 2: as their quarterback of the future. We're gonna break it

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Speaker 2: down with our insider Adam Kaplan. This is Fox Sports Saturday.

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Speaker 2: the NFL Draft is now long in our rear view mirror,

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Speaker 2: insider Adam Kaplan is joining us right now. Adam, I

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Speaker 5: God, it's good to be with you. So really, what

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Speaker 6: Is what happens when we talk about your door standers

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Speaker 6: He never got in trouble off the field, nothing like that.

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Speaker 6: It's what who are they getting? What happened leading up

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Speaker 6: this was an issue where as I understand it, it's

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Speaker 6: Well, here's really what it was is he just came

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Speaker 5: Man, I mean, this is the pre step draft stuff

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Speaker 2: He gives me this blank look and I'm like, so

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Speaker 2: Manual was the only quarterback taking in that first round.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's move on to the Steelers real quick.

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Speaker 5: One thing, just a bunch of gino.

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Speaker 6: And what's amazing is you want to talk about a

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Speaker 6: Greg doesn't do round grades, but he and I exchange

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Speaker 5: I said, so, what do you think?

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Speaker 5: Go ahead, all right.

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Speaker 2: So are we now set that Will Howard is the

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Speaker 2: Mason Rudolph the battle between the two right now?

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Speaker 4: All right?

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Speaker 2: So where are we with the Steelers in terms of

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Speaker 6: Yeah, they're they're they're their option, they're Plan B. They're

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Speaker 6: that's where this is going to go. Now, you mentioned

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Speaker 6: Will Howard, Okay, Will Howard was pretty much a third

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Speaker 5: Come Ohio state.

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Speaker 6: This again, Steve, You and I have talked about this

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Speaker 5: So yeah, right now, they just don't have this figured

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Speaker 6: They they have, they have a list, it's not a

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Speaker 6: to where he was. But it's just that they look

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Speaker 6: they got kind of taken to the Cleanerson situation. Even

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Speaker 6: if Rogers goes there. Folks, you're talking about a guy

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Speaker 6: turns forty two in December. Let's be honest here, and

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Speaker 6: when Steve, you and I talked about it for several

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Speaker 2: No, and he hasn't looked like himself since twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I mean went back to back

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and this is just the Steelers. You could blame them.

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Speaker 6: I mean, this is on them if it blows up

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Speaker 5: But it won't matter if you don't have a competent quarterback.

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Speaker 4: Hey, Adam, let's stay on there for a minute.

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 4: Now you know we watched Brady extend his career. We've

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Speaker 6: It's embarrassing in it shouldn't be happening old you as

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Speaker 6: Isn't there a time when your body tells you listen,

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Speaker 6: I can't do this anymore.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so there's a time warners talk about rich Gannon.

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Speaker 6: I remember asking rich Gannon rich if he did not

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Speaker 6: You talked about Olden Tom Brady. Your body tells you.

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Speaker 6: Players have always told me thisir body tells me when

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Speaker 6: I remember Mike Schmid the Hall of Fame third Basement

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Speaker 5: His niece told him he can't play anymore.

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Speaker 6: Now, if you want to just kind of look at

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Speaker 6: He just didn't play well, So you would think that.

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Speaker 6: that exactly. That's part of it that that's a major

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Speaker 6: I wish we had more time to talk about it,

434
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Speaker 6: but this is it's sad when the game retires the player,

435
00:22:58,080 --> 00:22:59,840
Speaker 6: and that's unfortunately what's going to happen with a lot

436
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Speaker 6: of it.

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00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:04,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, father time catches, but you know those peds they

438
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,120
Speaker 2: can extend the body does a little bit longer if

439
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Speaker 2: you want to go down that path. All right, great

440
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 2: stuff as always, Adam. A little rest bit right now,

441
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 2: you know, I.

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Speaker 5: Hope so soon.

443
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Speaker 6: But other than playing massive amount of tennis, guys, Yes,

444
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,440
Speaker 6: I'm watching our guy old and I have a friend

445
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 6: of mine, a front of ours who works for the

446
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 6: Nuggets who's doing pretty well. So in the front office

447
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 6: that we're we have been keeping a watch of eye

448
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:29,639
Speaker 6: in the nuts.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, we got a big game seven. We're

450
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Speaker 2: going to be getting into a little bit later on. Adam,

451
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 2: great stuff is always, Thanks so much. We'll talk to

452
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Speaker 2: you next week. That is Adam Kaplan, our NFL insider,

453
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Speaker 2: giving us the latest. Yeah, I just the whole Aaron

454
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Speaker 2: Rodgers thing to me is sad. I mean, come on,

455
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,159
Speaker 2: it's over. You've had a Hall of Fame career, you

456
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 2: won a super Bowl. It's a long time ago. And

457
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:53,479
Speaker 2: you know, he really wanted to go to the Vikings.

458
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 2: He was trying to convince the Vikings says that is

459
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Speaker 2: a super Bowl ready team, and the Vikings were like,

460
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Speaker 2: thank for the call, Air, but really we're okay, we're

461
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,199
Speaker 2: gonna go with the kid JJ McCarthy. We're gonna move

462
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,119
Speaker 2: forward on that. Oh all right, let's find out what

463
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 2: is trending right now. The man, of course, has been

464
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:12,400
Speaker 2: doing shows. He's been doing everything as he usually does.

465
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:15,439
Speaker 2: That's what he is, that's what he is.

466
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Speaker 4: Appreciate that, Steve.

467
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Speaker 3: How we're doing great.

468
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:20,920
Speaker 2: We're having a good time, but excited about this Game

469
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 2: seven coming up between the Nuggets and the Clippers.

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Speaker 8: Man, Steve, you don't have like a legendary Kentucky Derby story.

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Speaker 2: I wish I did. We had Ricky walk in saying

472
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Speaker 2: have you ever been to the Derby? And I said no.

473
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Speaker 2: I mean there's there's a very few like major sporting events.

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Speaker 2: I've not gone to. Number one for me still would

475
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Speaker 2: be the Masters. I think that's the national, but the

476
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Speaker 2: Derby's in the top three. That I've never actually covered.

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Speaker 8: Before, so that's fascinating.

478
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Speaker 2: What's amazing about this is they have like a seven

479
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 2: hour pre show for a two minute rates right. It's

480
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,919
Speaker 2: like like, you know, they're doing constant interviews showing all

481
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Speaker 2: the celebrities all dulled up, the big hats, everything else,

482
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Speaker 2: and it's like, when is this race actually going to start?

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Speaker 8: It looks like the post time six fifty seven eastern.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well that's coming up now it's raining still there?

485
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Speaker 2: Or what's going on with the weather.

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Speaker 8: It seems to be still a little drizzy. It is

487
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Speaker 8: a high fifty nine. It's been a really terrible weather

488
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Speaker 8: really all across America today. One norm road on the

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Speaker 8: Kentucky w though one hundred and fifty. First time it's happened.

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Speaker 8: All nineteen of the horses in this year's field are

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Speaker 8: descendants of Secretariat No.

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Speaker 2: All nineteen and apparently the two scratches were also descendants

493
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Speaker 2: of By the way, did you hear this number? Secretariat

494
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Speaker 2: in fifteen years as a stud sired six hundred and

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Speaker 2: sixty three folds in fifteen years. Wow, six sixty three?

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Speaker 4: Get it in?

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Speaker 2: I mean Secretariat? Can you imagine Father's Day?

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Speaker 4: I mean, wow?

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Speaker 2: I mean you are scoring big. But yeah, in fifteen

500
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Speaker 2: years as a stallion, he sired six hundred and sixty

501
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Speaker 2: three foals, of which three hundred and forty one ended

502
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Speaker 2: up winners. Uh so that's a fifty one percent rate.

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Speaker 2: So this guy, this guy Secretary, not only was the

504
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Speaker 2: super horse of all time on the track but off

505
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Speaker 2: the track. Pretty amazing.

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Speaker 8: There you have it, I said earlier today, bad weather.

507
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Speaker 8: It's impacted a few baseball games. Mets, Cardinals delay till tomorrow.

508
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,439
Speaker 8: Pirates and the Padres are right now in the bottom

509
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Speaker 8: of the third inning. They were in a lengthy rain

510
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Speaker 8: delay there. The Twins have a four to one lead

511
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Speaker 8: over the Red Sox in Boston on FS one, but

512
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Speaker 8: that's in the rain delay. On the top of the

513
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Speaker 8: seventh inning, Nationals and Reds also you guessed it not

514
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Speaker 8: playing their scoreless top of the first. Middle of the

515
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Speaker 8: second inning, the Diamondbacks and the Phillies scoreless. The A's

516
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Speaker 8: lead to marrowl in six to four in the top

517
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Speaker 8: of the ninth. Earlier today, we saw Jake Myers have

518
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Speaker 8: a day two home runs, four extra base hits, seven RBI.

519
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 8: It was four for four thirteen total bases Astros record

520
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Speaker 8: as the Astros make quick work with the White Sox

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00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,239
Speaker 8: eight to three, Guardians with they come from behind, went

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Speaker 8: over the Blue Jays five to three, and the Rays

523
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Speaker 8: also had to come from behind, went over the Yankees

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Speaker 8: three to two.

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Speaker 2: Back to you guys, all right, Thank you very much, Martin,

526
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,160
Speaker 2: appreciate it. As always, once again, we're coming alive from

527
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Speaker 2: the Fox Sports Radio studios. You can also stream this

528
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,240
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529
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530
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531
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536
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Speaker 3: So Secretariot arguably the greatest.

538
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 2: Thoroughbed racehorse of all time, I mean, still holds the

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00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 2: record at the Kentucky Derby, and don't get me started

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00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 2: on the Belmont that year when he won by thirty

541
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Speaker 2: thirty one lengths and set a record time wise that

542
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 2: will never be topped. I mean this was the super

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00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 2: horse of all time. But yeah, every single horse in

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00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:25,639
Speaker 2: this Kentucky Derby is a descendant of Secretariat. So so

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00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 2: fifteen years as a stallion, six hundred and sixty three folds.

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Speaker 2: That's getting to work.

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00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:33,159
Speaker 4: Now.

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00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 2: Secretary did not have a long life. Most of these

549
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 2: great horses can live into their thirties. Secretary pass away

550
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 2: at the age of nineteen. They found out upon his

551
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,719
Speaker 2: death that he had an enlarged heart, like a giant,

552
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 2: like he had a bigger engine.

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00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly.

554
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 2: So well, okay, well, you know, by.

555
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Speaker 9: The way, you would think that sixty three foles in

556
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 9: fifteen years is but they actually say that his breeding

557
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 9: record is not great.

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00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 2: By the way, at its peak his stud feet was

559
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 2: six million dollars and that was back in nineteen eighty.

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Speaker 4: Nine, so it's six million per right, Yeah wow, so

561
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:22,959
Speaker 4: six million.

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00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 2: So he's Big Red as he was known. Yeah, Big

563
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 2: Red had to get to work.

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00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,719
Speaker 4: I forgot the movie that they made. I forgot the

565
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 4: title of that movie. But it was a great movie,

566
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Speaker 4: you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, yeah, I tell you what I mean that

568
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 2: is that is that is incredible, right, every single horse

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Speaker 2: it comes from his.

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Speaker 4: Uh nineteen of them and here come to jockeys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the problem with the Derby in trying

572
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 2: to pick a winner, because you always, I mean normally

573
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 2: we will have a full twenty horses. I guess we're

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Speaker 2: down to nineteen this year. Well, when you have this

575
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 2: crowd of field, this is why so few favorites win

576
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 2: the Derby over the years, because you got to break

577
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 2: out of the gate fast. You know, it's not a

578
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 2: long race and two minutes and that's why we see

579
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 2: so many upsets. So usually if you're betting on the Derby,

580
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 2: the best play is that second tier of horses. That's

581
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 2: what you're looking at if you want a decent payday

582
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Speaker 2: and win on the Derby.

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Speaker 3: So is this something that you've had an interest in

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Speaker 3: at all?

585
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 2: The Derby?

586
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Speaker 4: I love watching it. I watch them all, you know,

587
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 4: you know, it's always interested to see the chase for

588
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 4: the triple Crown. But at the same time, I'm not

589
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Speaker 4: a betting person on horses. I've made one bet in

590
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Speaker 4: my life and I won that and I never bet

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Speaker 4: it again. I just and the funny thing about it,

592
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 4: I only bet the horse because I liked the name.

593
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 4: That's it. That was the only reason I put the

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Speaker 4: money down on this horse. But at the same time,

595
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Speaker 4: you know, it's amazing because I believe, like horses are

596
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 4: incredible creatures and so to me seeing that you mentioned

597
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 4: about the hut. Now we've had horses whose hearts blow

598
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 4: up doing races, and so they're in amazing animals and

599
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 4: it's great to see. But at the same time, I'm

600
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 4: not big on horse racing because in some ways I

601
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 4: still believe it's a little bit cruel. But it is

602
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 4: what it is, and that's what we are. But I'll

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Speaker 4: tell you this. The Kentucky Derby, like you mentioned two minutes,

604
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 4: but it's people go to bet and to party. Yeah,

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00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 4: that's it. There's nothing else. We don't care about anything else.

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00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 2: They have the red carpet. I mean, it's just like

607
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 2: a who's who of the entertainment world, whether you're an

608
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 2: athlete or a movie star or whatever. It is absolutely

609
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 2: one more to be seen. Yeah, here's a couple of

610
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 2: notes about the Kentucky Derby that you may not know. Now,

611
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Speaker 2: we all know all the horses are three years old.

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00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 2: We know that the race is a mile and a quarter.

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Speaker 2: But here's an interesting note. You may not know every

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Speaker 2: not a single horse in the field has ever raced

615
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 2: that distance in their careers. So for all nineteen of

616
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 2: these horses, this is the first time they ever have

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00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 2: raced a mile and a quarter.

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00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So that along with the huge field that you always

620
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 2: have at the Derby up to twenty horses again just

621
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Speaker 2: nineteen this year. With lake scratches, it makes it very unpredictable.

622
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 2: And now you've got the weather situation and it's a

623
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 2: wet track, so it only makes it even more.

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00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 4: The mutters they got the shot right now, whoever's a mutter?

625
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 2: I mean just remember what was it just a couple

626
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 2: of years ago, Rich Strike was a last minute addition,

627
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 2: went off at eighty to one, paid one hundred and

628
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 2: sixty three dollars and sixty cents on a two dollars bet.

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Speaker 4: I love it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's where I'm going right now.

631
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Speaker 4: But you know what the thing, I don't know if

632
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 4: you've talked about anyone's talked about it. You know there

633
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 4: was some breaking news right within the Derby.

634
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 2: Bob Baffer's back, yes he is.

635
00:32:56,520 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 4: He served that three year suspension and by the way,

636
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 4: everything under the sun.

637
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:07,719
Speaker 2: So if I'm looking right now, Bafford's horse is so

638
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 2: he has won six derbies, and so I'm picking his horse,

639
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 2: Citizen Bull right now. I think the odds are at

640
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 2: twelve to one right now in Citizen Bull, but I'm

641
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 2: going with Citizen Bull, trained by the Great Bob Afford.

642
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 4: I don't think he gets a win out of suspension.

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00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 2: Why do you say, I don't.

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00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 4: Think so, because he's he had to be on the

645
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 4: up and up on everything. So it's kind of good

646
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 4: to see him though back I love that white hair,

647
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 4: so it's good to see him back over there. I'm cheating.

648
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 2: I mean when when you're on top and you're expected

649
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Speaker 2: to stay on top. Especially we just talked about how

650
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 2: much you talk about the sport of kings, which they

651
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 2: talk about horse racing. I known very people that have

652
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Speaker 2: money but adventures into horse racing. Think I have enough

653
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Speaker 2: money to be in this business.

654
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Speaker 4: You don't.

655
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Speaker 2: I'm telling you right now you have to have, I

656
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:13,320
Speaker 2: mean serious money, because you could have You could invest

657
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 2: in a great horse and then the horse breaks down.

658
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's not like you could trade them.

659
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:19,280
Speaker 2: It's gone.

660
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Speaker 5: Well.

661
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 4: I saw Jason Worth is an owner. Yeah, so that's

662
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 4: kind of cool. Yeah, you know, the bills come in

663
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Speaker 4: isn't that Phillies money.

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Speaker 2: It is staggering how much it costs to be in

665
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Speaker 2: this industry. All right, coming up on the other side,

666
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,320
Speaker 2: we're gonna get back into the NBA. We got a

667
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 2: Game seven coming up between the Clippers and the Nuggets.

668
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 2: How do we get here? And will home court be

669
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Speaker 2: the difference in this Game seven? We're gonna break it down.

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Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Saturday.

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Speaker 10: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio Steve Hartman and

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Speaker 10: Olden Polonies f Sports Saturday.

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Speaker 2: We're coming in live from the During the break, we

674
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Speaker 2: were just talking about the jockeys and you remember the

675
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,399
Speaker 2: movie Seabiscuit. It was a huge hit back in two

676
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Speaker 2: thousand and four, and I was at the Super Bowl

677
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Speaker 2: in Houston and Gary Stevens, the Hall of Fame jockey

678
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Speaker 2: who was part of the movie, was coming around radio

679
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Speaker 2: road to do.

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00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 3: Interviews about the movie.

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Speaker 2: It was a huge Sea Biscuit and Michael Thompson, my partner,

682
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 2: yes the NBA.

683
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 3: Michael Thompson was not in Houston. He was on the

684
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Speaker 3: road with the Lakers.

685
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 2: So he's on the show, but he's not physically sitting

686
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Speaker 2: next to me and Gary Stevens. So I come on

687
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Speaker 2: with Gary Stevens and I said, you know, pound for pound,

688
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 2: jockeys are some of the greatest athletes on the planet.

689
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Speaker 2: I mean, you were having to control this giant animal

690
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 2: and you have to maintain weight. I mean, you are

691
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 2: an incredible athlete. And I'm sitting there with Gary Stevens

692
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 2: and Michael Thompson says, athlete, You're not an athlete. You're

693
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Speaker 2: riding a horse. And the look on Gary Stevens's face

694
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Speaker 2: like who is this on the other end? And I'm like, gee, thanks, Michael.

695
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 2: I was so livid at Michael Thompson to this days,

696
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 2: like I have. I was right, They're not They're not athletes,

697
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 2: They're just riding a horse.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, come on, man, wow.

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Speaker 2: That would be like saying race car drivers there's no athleticism,

700
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 2: and being a race car driver there is. You have

701
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 2: to have reaction time. And by the way, jockeys have

702
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 2: had serious injuries. There have been even deaths from jockeys

703
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 2: on these horses. So I I you know, the horse

704
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 2: ultimately is doing the majority of the work, but to

705
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Speaker 2: downplay the role of the jockey is idiotic.

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Speaker 4: That was so disrespectful. I mean, Michael should have known better,

707
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 4: because that's like saying, Oh, all you're doing is don't

708
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 4: a ball into a hoop? Come on, now, that's whack

709
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 4: as hell, because the thing about it is you have

710
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 4: to be some of the strongest people. There's two jobs

711
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 4: right now, or two professions, jockeys and race car drivers

712
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 4: where your hands and arms forearms and hand eye coordinations.

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00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 4: Come on, man, that's that's ridiculous. That's so disrespectful.

714
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,320
Speaker 3: Well, and you have to control the horse.

715
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 4: You have to control when do I hold back?

716
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 2: When do I, you know, turn on the after burners.

717
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 2: I have to control this horse to get it to

718
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Speaker 2: do what we need to do to win this race.

719
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Speaker 4: That's whack.

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Speaker 2: So right now, the horses are on the track here

721
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Speaker 2: as is a wet track. It is a muddy track

722
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 2: there at Churchill Downs, no doubt about that. And it

723
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 2: is a crowded field in nineteen so we are not

724
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 2: far away from them getting into the gates and off

725
00:37:55,680 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 2: and running for three stuff limb Air five Entuck Derby.

726
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Speaker 2: All right, we're gonna be talking plenty about this game

727
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 2: that's gonna be tipping off here in a little more

728
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 2: than half an hour between the Clippers and the Nuggets.

729
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 2: I just I'm gonna give a little overview because we

730
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 2: have a couple of minutes here before the top of

731
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Speaker 2: the hour. Uh do you are you surprised at all

732
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Speaker 2: that this series has gone a full seven?

733
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Speaker 4: No, not even close. I'm not surprised at all because

734
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,760
Speaker 4: they two are the better teams. You know, with Kawhi

735
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 4: Leonard is a top five guy when he's healthy, come

736
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Speaker 4: on nine. Then you have James Harden and Zubat and

737
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Speaker 4: Norm Powell. Between all these guys, the Clippers are solid.

738
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Speaker 4: Their problem is, like I've been saying, I believe the

739
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 4: Clippers are cursed. So they gonna give you excitement here

740
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 4: and there, a little bit of this, a little bit

741
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 4: of that. I just don't think they're gonna be able

742
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Speaker 4: to get through the finish line because of karma. But

743
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 4: at the same time, they fun to watch. I believe

744
00:38:56,520 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 4: the Nuggets will win this game because home court. You

745
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 4: play for home court advantage, and this is an example

746
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Speaker 4: of you gotta come ready now. I will say this.

747
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 3: You do remember Denver losing Game seven.

748
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:11,839
Speaker 4: At home to Minnesota.

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Speaker 3: I mean a meltdown in the second half of that.

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Speaker 4: I don't think they're going to do that today.

751
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 2: What happened in that game.

752
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 3: They were seemingly in control, like a walkover.

753
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 2: Against a young Minnesota team, and the second half happened

754
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 2: and bye bye, back to back championships.

755
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,479
Speaker 4: Everybody wants to relax and chill and think. You got

756
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 4: to get through the finish line, and that's the thing.

757
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 4: You can't afford to do that.

758
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 2: So did you not tell me that TYLERU has never

759
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 2: lost one of these games?

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00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's four and zero four.

761
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 2: And oh and you're betting against Tyler in this one.

762
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,439
Speaker 2: I'm not so sure here, Holden. I just believe that

763
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:48,919
Speaker 2: I think the Clippers going in were the better team.

764
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Speaker 2: I don't know what happened in Game four. I mean,

765
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 2: you're at home, You're coming off a thirty four point

766
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 2: blowout in Game three, and you're sort of doing whatever

767
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 2: to put yourself in a twenty two point point hole

768
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Speaker 2: in the beginning of the fourth court.

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Speaker 3: He came back a little too little, too late.

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Speaker 2: All right, we'll have much more on that and the

771
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Speaker 2: rest of what's going on in the NBA playoffs.

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Speaker 3: This is Fox Sports Saturday.

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Speaker 10: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio, rolling along here

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Speaker 10: on a huge sports Saturday.

775
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Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Saturday, We're broadcasting live from the

776
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio studios. Mark Medena, our NBA Insider, is

777
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:27,720
Speaker 2: going to be coming on with us in about twenty

778
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 2: minutes as we get ready for the derby, as we

779
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 2: get ready for a Game seven between the Clippers and

780
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 2: the Nuggets tomorrow. Another Game seven coming up between the

781
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,399
Speaker 2: Warriors and the Rockets. Not too many people a lot

782
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 2: that was going to happen with the Warriors three up

783
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 2: three to one in that series and all of a

784
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 2: sudden losing it home last night for us in Game

785
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 2: seven tomorrow. In fact, it's weird because that series will

786
00:40:56,280 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 2: start actually and tomorrow, and I believe we have the

787
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:04,439
Speaker 2: Cavs Pacers tomorrow Game one. Yeah, they have a Game

788
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 2: one on the same day you have a Game seven.

789
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Speaker 4: No, they do that all the time. Yeah, because they

790
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,800
Speaker 4: can't technically determine.

791
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 2: Who's I want to ask you that I want to

792
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 2: ask you something old and it gets it gets gets

793
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Speaker 2: back to JJ Reddick's failure in its first attempt at

794
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 2: navigating a playoff series as a head coach in the

795
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 2: NBA and absolute failure when you're in a playoff series.

796
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 2: Old and obviously it's completely different than the regular season. A.

797
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 2: Of course, it's a playoff game, so there's a lot

798
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 2: more at stake. But you're playing the same team yes,

799
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 2: night after night after night, so you play with a

800
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Speaker 2: number of teams, you play for a number of coaches.

801
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:50,839
Speaker 2: How is it different in navigating a playoff series than

802
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 2: anything you've done during the regular season.

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Speaker 4: Well, the difference is this, It's plain and simple. It's

804
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 4: regular season. You'll meet in different teams, so it's like,

805
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 4: you know, you you can like you have your core

806
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 4: things that you want to do and then you make

807
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,359
Speaker 4: an adjustment to the next team. But you pretty much

808
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 4: stay within your core stuff. But when it's in a series,

809
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 4: it's like, Okay, I have to make in game adjustments

810
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 4: and after game adjustments day in and there are based

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Speaker 4: on what happened. Even if you win the first game,

812
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 4: you have to make adjustments. And if you lose, that

813
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 4: team's gonna make adjustments. So now you got to make

814
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,879
Speaker 4: an adjustment to the adjustment. So that's all that goes

815
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 4: on within the playoffs in the series, like adjustments being made.

816
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:37,320
Speaker 4: Perfect example of that was Tylo subbing Batune for Chris

817
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:42,919
Speaker 4: Dunn to start the second half, threw the Nuggets out

818
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 4: of whack because they walked out there thinking done was

819
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 4: gonna come out, and it was Batoon and all of

820
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 4: a sudden because they sent out their five and he

821
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 4: waited until and then he sent out his five and

822
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 4: that threw them for a loop and Batuma hit a

823
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 4: couple of big shots and everything just went the Clippers way.

824
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 4: So yeah, it's all about adjustments. In the playoffs, well.

825
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,800
Speaker 2: He engineered the greatest playoff series win of all time

826
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Speaker 2: with Cleveland. You're down three to one. Golden State has

827
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Speaker 2: a seventy three win team, meaning they have two of

828
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Speaker 2: the last three games at home, and Cleveland sweeps three

829
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 2: straight games, including two on the road, to knock out

830
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Speaker 2: the team with the greatest regular season record in the

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Speaker 2: history of the NBA. So it's obvious that ty Lou

832
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 2: has been there, done that understands the dynamic. But it

833
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,800
Speaker 2: is a different game and this is again what happened

834
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 2: to JJ Reddick. Hopefully he'll learn from this. I mean

835
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 2: he did admit, you know, it's a learning process.

836
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Speaker 4: But the Lakers don't have enough Steve Well.

837
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 2: I understand that they have to add to it. But

838
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 2: the way he coached that team, again, you've overcome you

839
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 2: need a game four. Right, you're down two games to one.

840
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 2: You're down two games to one, you're on the road. Yeah,

841
00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:00,760
Speaker 2: and so you have a ten point lead going into

842
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 2: the fourth quarter. Your five starters have played the entire

843
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 2: third quarter. I don't know, maybe it would be wise

844
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,320
Speaker 2: to to sit them, you know, for a couple of minutes,

845
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 2: let them catch their breath, and he decides to grind

846
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Speaker 2: it out. By the way, the last time a team

847
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,240
Speaker 2: had an entire five guys had played the entire second

848
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,399
Speaker 2: half of a playoff game was nineteen ninety eight. That's

849
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 2: the last time that had happened where five guys had

850
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 2: played the entire second half of a playoff game, nineteen

851
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Speaker 2: ninety eight.

852
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Speaker 4: And the fact that one of them is forty years

853
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 4: old was amazing to watch.

854
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 2: And they started missing layups at the end. They were insisting, well,

855
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 2: I had nothing to do with fatigue.

856
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 4: And he Wolves just ran down their throats and they

857
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,839
Speaker 4: used that today advantage. So to me, that was an

858
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:50,240
Speaker 4: epic failure. But I'll tell you this, and I hope

859
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 4: you know you mentioned Tyleru and the Cavaliers the three

860
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 4: to one comeback except three win season. I hope they

861
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 4: gave keky vandaway a ring. Okay, that decision to suspend

862
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 4: Raymond Green was critical to that series.

863
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 3: You don't think he should have been suspended for kicking

864
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Speaker 3: Lebron in.

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Speaker 4: The U Okay, so not even anyway, it's neither no there,

866
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 4: but not even close. That was whack.

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Speaker 2: Wait, say well literally it was whack. So you don't

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Speaker 2: believe that he should have been suspended. You don't think

869
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 2: that was flagrant not even closed? Where is where do

870
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 2: you draw the line in terms of where you Finally,

871
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:37,359
Speaker 2: even if it's a playoff game, you have to say no, no,

872
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 2: you've crossed the line too much. It's playoffs, so anything

873
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 2: goes pretty much. Well, if you go back to the

874
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:49,359
Speaker 2: days when Kurt Ramis gets close lined in a place,

875
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:50,320
Speaker 2: they didn't call a.

876
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 4: Foul, thank you. That's what I'm saying. It's playoffs because

877
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 4: the man walks over you. Okay, he kicks his legout, that's.

878
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 2: Not no, But he he didn't say you didn't think

879
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 2: it was with intent?

880
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 4: After the fact, you can say anything, but for it

881
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 4: to want a suspension in the finals. And that's the

882
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 4: problem that I have with NBA basketball more NBA basketball

883
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 4: more than any other sport. It's the only sport where

884
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 4: your stars can get thrown out, can get fiule out.

885
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:26,240
Speaker 4: I don't pay money to watch you, referee. I don't

886
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,840
Speaker 4: pay money to watch Steph Curry pick up three fouls

887
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 4: in the first quarter to where he has to sit,

888
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 4: And I damn shouldn't pay money, you know, to see

889
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 4: the crap that they're doing. Right now, I know change

890
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 4: that rule. Stars should not be filing out of games

891
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 4: and being come on, it's the playoffs. I'm not suspending right.

892
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 2: Let's say you get a six foul of seventh foul

893
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 2: and eighth foul and ninth fouls still in the game.

894
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 4: What is the penalty? Two shots in the ball? Two

895
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 4: shots like a technical two shots. Anybody can shoot the

896
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 4: two free throws and the ball. Now you really got

897
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 4: a coach. Do I keep him in? Do I take

898
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 4: him out? You still got to manage your files because

899
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,839
Speaker 4: that's potentially four to five six points that you're gonna

900
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 4: cost your team. That would be the best thing for

901
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 4: them to do. Now, no matter what, my star players

902
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 4: will always be a part of the game.

903
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 2: How did Will Chamberlain never fall out of a game,

904
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 2: matter regular season or postseason? Playing an average of forty

905
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 2: six minutes per game for his entire career.

906
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,959
Speaker 3: How did he never fall out of a game?

907
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 2: Was it that the officials didn't want to be the

908
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 2: first to foul him out they were afraid of him?

909
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 2: Or how is that possible that a guy could go

910
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 2: an entire career playing in the position he was blocking

911
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 2: shots all over the place, never fell out of a.

912
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 4: Game because Will wasn't real.

913
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 2: Well, when you look at his statue, you're like, this

914
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,360
Speaker 2: guy did not. By the way, we have a winner

915
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 2: in the Kentucky Derby. Sovereignty edged out the favorite journalism

916
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 2: in this muddy track race at Kentucky Derby. So sovereignty

917
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 2: edging out journalism to win this year's Derby. Course it's unofficial.

918
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 2: They got to post the official but there it is

919
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:21,800
Speaker 2: sovereignty as the winner.

920
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 4: I like it.

921
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,879
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know sovereignty. No, Jonal Baffort's course

922
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 2: did not. So it was citizen So citizen Bowl was

923
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,320
Speaker 2: waiting leading for a second that I was about to

924
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 2: jump all over.

925
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,359
Speaker 4: And then wasn't that that was twelve to one right, yeah,

926
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 4: oh Baffitt, I tell you, Baffort's not winning coming back.

927
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 2: So yeah, it was you know, I don't. I'm sure

928
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 2: the time wasn't great.

929
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 4: But look what sovereignty was though. Look where he was

930
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:52,439
Speaker 4: and he just took off.

931
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:56,319
Speaker 2: Well again, what's interesting, and I did not know this

932
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 2: until I read this, is that again, all these are

933
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 2: three year old horses. I get all that, but none

934
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 2: of them have raced this distance before, so you really

935
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 2: have nothing to go on about a mile and a

936
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 2: quarter and now they're going to react racing the mile

937
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:12,919
Speaker 2: in a court. Oh he stayed on the outside too.

938
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 2: Oh that was nice. Are you telling me that jockey

939
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:18,320
Speaker 2: is not an athlete?

940
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 8: Man?

941
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:24,320
Speaker 4: Come on, we always spoke on it. Michael Thompson, Now disrespectful, Michael, Yeah,

942
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 4: I did well.

943
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 2: I used to kid him. I said, I saw you

944
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 2: shoot free throws. Are you sure you were an athlete?

945
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.

946
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 2: He had that push shot, you know, like Sean Marion.

947
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean, you know, like the two hand

948
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 2: push shot.

949
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 4: Yeah.

950
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 5: I don't, I don't.

951
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 4: I don't ever minimize somebody's profession. They have profo a

952
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,280
Speaker 4: reason right to get.

953
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 8: To that level.

954
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 2: You're the best of the best.

955
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:52,879
Speaker 4: We know that Junior Alvarado is a jockey, and.

956
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 2: He is covered in my covered in I mean he

957
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 2: is absolutely covered in mud. The only not is his

958
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 2: eyes because he had the goggles on. So there it is.

959
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:06,399
Speaker 2: Sovereignty is the winner of this year's Kentucky Derby unofficially.

960
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 2: All right, coming up on the other side, we're gonna

961
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 2: catch up with our NBA insider Mark Medina get his

962
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 2: thoughts on these Game sevens today and tomorrow and what

963
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 2: to look for in the second round of these NBA playoffs.

964
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:23,440
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965
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:26,839
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966
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:30,000
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967
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968
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969
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970
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971
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:48,280
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972
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:51,960
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973
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:55,879
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974
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,320
Speaker 2: All right, we got Game seven coming up tween the

975
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:02,359
Speaker 2: Clips and Nuggets today. Tomorrow Game seven Warriors Rockets here

976
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 2: to break it all down. Is Well, the man that

977
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:08,800
Speaker 2: we were just watching on TV guys everywhere these days.

978
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 2: He always is our great NBA insider here at Fox

979
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 2: Sports Radio, Mark Medina, all right, Mark, before we get

980
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 2: to these game sevens, I do want to get your

981
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 2: thoughts on the complete playoff collapse of the Lakers, the

982
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:26,359
Speaker 2: dismal performance in his rookie voyage as a head coach

983
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 2: in the postseason by JJ Reddick. And what do you

984
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:31,720
Speaker 2: deem as the future for Lebron James as a Laker?

985
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:33,839
Speaker 2: Because I'm on record, I said this a month ago,

986
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,280
Speaker 2: and my thought has not changed that he has indeed

987
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:39,280
Speaker 2: played his last game as a Los Angeles Lakers.

988
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 3: So oh wow, oh yeah, I said that a month ago. Well,

989
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 3: I mean, what take?

990
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 2: Have you been listening to everything he's been saying since

991
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 2: the season ended. He basically he said that, you know,

992
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 2: Luca's future with the Lakers should not have my bearriers

993
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,280
Speaker 2: should have no bearing on his future with the Lakers.

994
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 2: He talked about the greatest highlight of his entire NBA

995
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 2: career was playing with his son or he checked that box,

996
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 2: you know, fifty two million. While he's not going to

997
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 2: turn down fifty two million. The guy's a billionaire. That's

998
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 2: not about that. It's about going to a place where

999
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 2: we can win a championship next year if he wants

1000
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:16,359
Speaker 2: to continue his NBA career, which I think is very

1001
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 2: questionable at this point. So I do not see any

1002
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 2: way that Lebron.

1003
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 3: James is going to be in a Laker uniform next year.

1004
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 7: But your thoughts, well, you know it's very well reasoned,

1005
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 7: but agree to this. Agree. I think that you know once,

1006
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 7: I think he's planning these seeds because he wants to

1007
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 7: have leverage. It keeps them in the conversation. But you

1008
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 7: may recall two years ago he's floating retirement or maybe

1009
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 7: leaving the Lakers in twenty twenty three, and then lum behold,

1010
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:43,919
Speaker 7: he just signs another deal with them. I think what's

1011
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:46,800
Speaker 7: going to happen is this, he stays with the Lakers

1012
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 7: for practical purposes, he can still play with Brownie and

1013
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 7: for all the question marks about the Lakers, realistically, his

1014
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 7: best chance to win a championship is staying put because

1015
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 7: Luca Dodgers is on the team and they'll expect to

1016
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 7: make some roster upgrades. But if you hit the nail

1017
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,879
Speaker 7: on the head Steve about the Lakers season. They may

1018
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 7: not have been considered the championship favorites after the Luka

1019
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 7: Doncic trade because they had defensive flaws, but the fact

1020
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 7: that they lost the first round that was unacceptable. I mean,

1021
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,320
Speaker 7: they had the same outcome that they had last season

1022
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 7: that led to Darvin Ham's firing. And you know, context

1023
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 7: is a little bit different because Denver Nuggets were a

1024
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 7: better team coming off to the defending champions. But you know,

1025
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 7: to losing the first round, the expectation was you got

1026
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 7: at least get to the second round, and if you

1027
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 7: lose to the Oklahoma City th Under the Western Conference,

1028
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:42,320
Speaker 7: it makes sense. But to lose to a Minnesota Timberwolves

1029
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:45,240
Speaker 7: team that's very good. Don't get me wrong, Anthony Edwards

1030
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 7: a great player. They have a good team, but the

1031
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:50,799
Speaker 7: Lakers should have been better. And there's just a lot

1032
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 7: to unpack when it comes to their defensive flaws. There

1033
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:57,360
Speaker 7: need to get a center. Lebron James's father time showing

1034
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:00,879
Speaker 7: up and Luka Doncic, you know, we've seen versions of

1035
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 7: the worst habits of him of porting on to the

1036
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 7: ball too long, not being the best shape. So they

1037
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:08,479
Speaker 7: got a lot of things to fix us off soon.

1038
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 4: Hey, Mark, I wanted to ask let's stay on that

1039
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 4: for a minute. And it was funny, you know you

1040
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 4: just said about Luca being in shape because JJ threw

1041
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 4: that out there. You know, yeah, same championship shape. And

1042
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 4: to me that was a dig. You know, But and

1043
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:28,319
Speaker 4: I said this when the trade happened. You cannot have

1044
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 4: two ball dominant guys on the same team, especially the Lakers.

1045
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:37,839
Speaker 4: So with that being said, and I'm not buying what

1046
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 4: Steve's talking about about he playing his last game because Lebron.

1047
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 3: I will have the last laugh on this one.

1048
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:49,360
Speaker 4: Lebron still has another son, so he might hang around

1049
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 4: for that one too. But my question to you is this,

1050
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:57,399
Speaker 4: do you think Luca heard that? And do you think

1051
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 4: he's gonna make it a personal thing because that'schampionship thing?

1052
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 4: Was that was? That was a direct. I don't care

1053
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 4: how you want to play it. It wasn't for him,

1054
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:09,439
Speaker 4: but I think it was for him. Do you think

1055
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 4: that's still on his mind or not?

1056
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:13,839
Speaker 2: Oh?

1057
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 7: I think Luca heard it, and I think that you know,

1058
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 7: if you talk to Luca and he gives you cruse

1059
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 7: serum Hill, acknowledge that, Yeah, he needs to be in

1060
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:25,240
Speaker 7: better shit. Uh he eve instead of his introductory press

1061
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 7: commerce that he was using it as a source of motivation.

1062
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 4: Uh.

1063
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 7: And you know he acknowledged that part. He acknowledged his

1064
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 7: defensive weaknesses. I think, you know, when it comes to Dallas,

1065
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 7: where it took umbrage with it was isn't enough to

1066
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 7: raid a generational talent that really played the major factor

1067
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:46,879
Speaker 7: why they got the finals begin with. So I think

1068
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:50,800
Speaker 7: under the under this context because they lost, because he

1069
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,360
Speaker 7: knew these are weaknesses, I think they'll go embrace it.

1070
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 7: But the problem is it's got to be consistent the ball.

1071
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:02,319
Speaker 7: The ball dominance. I thought and still think that it

1072
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 7: can't work with Lebron because Luca is such a great talent.

1073
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 7: But what you saw in the playoffs is that it

1074
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 7: was the worst version of him where it wasn't just

1075
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 7: about him being aggressive and looking for a shot because

1076
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 7: he's so talented. He was doing that until the end

1077
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 7: of the shot block. He was doing that at the

1078
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:25,440
Speaker 7: detriment of great bald movement. And so Lebron's credit, you know,

1079
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:28,400
Speaker 7: he was playing off the ball like he is a

1080
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 7: player that's you know, there's always going to be the

1081
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 7: debate Okay, he's not better than Michael, but like it's

1082
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 7: no debate, he's one of the best players of all

1083
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 7: time and he's playing off the ball and willing to

1084
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:39,840
Speaker 7: do it. But he's only going to be willing to

1085
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 7: do it to a certain extent. And where that line

1086
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 7: is is if he feels that that player is playing

1087
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 7: the right way. And so we saw Lebron brow line

1088
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 7: in the sand when he felt that Russell Westbrook wasn't

1089
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 7: doing that or D'Angel Russell wasn't doing that. And he's

1090
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 7: given Lucas some grace because he's a better player. But

1091
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 7: if it continues like that, I can see Lebron eventually saying,

1092
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:03,439
Speaker 7: you know what, let me run the offense because it'll

1093
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:04,720
Speaker 7: lead to much better results.

1094
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I'll have.

1095
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:07,400
Speaker 3: Better results if they have better coaching.

1096
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 2: But I'll save that for another day. Let's talk about

1097
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 2: the Clippers Nuggets Game seven. What do you see tonight?

1098
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 7: Mark loop the coin? I mean, I would give the

1099
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 7: edge to Denver because their home court, they got nikolejokicch

1100
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 7: and the Clippers have a very extensive history and falling

1101
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 7: short in the playoffs. But when you look at the

1102
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:32,959
Speaker 7: identity of this series, it's the anything goes series. Both

1103
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 7: teams have won high stakes, close games, both teams have

1104
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 7: won road games. Both teams have suffered collapses of double

1105
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 7: digit defeat. So what I'm getting at is, you can

1106
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 7: spin the rolette wheel in any scenario can happen. But

1107
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 7: if I had a guess, I think it's to the

1108
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 7: Nuggets because they have home court. The officials will probably

1109
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 7: go their way because of that, and they got a

1110
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 7: little bit of momentum on their sides because of the

1111
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 7: fact that Murray has all of a sudden appeared again

1112
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 7: into the better version of himself. But look the Clippers.

1113
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 7: They got Game six, They went all out with playing

1114
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 7: heavy mess for James Harden Kawhi Leonard to beat the

1115
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 7: zoo box Norman Powell. They can still win this, but

1116
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 7: I would give the ash of the Nuggets.

1117
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 4: Oh, Mark, I know it's early, but we've been hearing rumblings,

1118
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 4: you know, in regards to Yannis Attenta Compo, you know,

1119
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 4: possibly playing his last game in walking Now that one

1120
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 4: I would go and say, more than the lebron one.

1121
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 4: Have you been hearing anything in regards to Yannis, Because

1122
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 4: I see there's a bunch of trade options already being

1123
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 4: put out there.

1124
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think really anything could happen now if I

1125
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 7: had to make a prediction, I don't think Jannis gets

1126
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 7: traded only because Milwaukee's not going to trade him unless

1127
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 7: he directly says, you know what, I want out. And

1128
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Speaker 7: it's been very disappointing for the Bucks, you know, losing

1129
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 7: the first round for the third consecutive year. But when

1130
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 7: it comes to the front office, good or bad, and

1131
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 7: coaching good or bad, the Bucks have done Yannis right

1132
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 7: with being aggressive making moves, so they've you know, accommodated

1133
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 7: everything that they've wanted, whether it's you know, going to

1134
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 7: get Damian lowered in a trade, even at the expense

1135
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 7: of giving up Drew Holliday. They accommodated making coaching changes.

1136
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 7: So I think with the Bucks they can tell you're honest, like, look,

1137
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 7: we've done everything that you've wanted us. So clearly you

1138
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 7: understand Gianni's frustration with the losing, but I don't think

1139
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 7: that he could ever stay with the ray face. You

1140
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 7: know what, I'm unhappy with the front office. They're not asked,

1141
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 7: you know, they're they're not following my lead and wanting

1142
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 7: to go all in, and I don't think it's in

1143
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 7: the Honest's nature to ever directly say he wants out.

1144
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 7: So I think with that the Bucks are just going

1145
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 7: to leave every scenario open as far as roster changes,

1146
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 7: even head coaching changes with Doc Rivers. But I don't

1147
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 7: think they're ever going to get to the point of

1148
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 7: trading honest. But that being said to the larger point

1149
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 7: that you're making, and it's going to be a very

1150
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:10,600
Speaker 7: busy offseason because Kevin Durant expect to be traded. You

1151
01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 7: look at teams like the Houston Rockets and the Santonias Furs.

1152
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:17,000
Speaker 7: They have good young talent and a lot of assets

1153
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 7: to work with to make major moves. So there's going

1154
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 7: to be a lot of activity and a lot of

1155
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 7: you know, domino effects as far as maybe teams like

1156
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:26,880
Speaker 7: the Lakers that get involved with getting some of the

1157
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:29,920
Speaker 7: complimentary players, the role players that can make a difference

1158
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 7: between being a playoff contender or a championship contender. So Buckwulp, guys,

1159
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:36,360
Speaker 7: there's gonna be a lot of transactions for us to

1160
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 7: unfold this upcoming off season.

1161
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:40,520
Speaker 2: Well, Lakers can get a lot more if they can

1162
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 2: take that fifty two million off the books of Lebron,

1163
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 2: I'm saying, I'm just saying. All right, we all agree

1164
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 2: that it was embarrassing the way that the Lakers season ended,

1165
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 2: losing in five games, including two home game losses in

1166
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:56,520
Speaker 2: that series against the Timberwolves. But how devastating would it

1167
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 2: be for the Golden State Warriors to blow a three

1168
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 2: to one series lead against the Houston Rockets.

1169
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, it would be very devastating, Steve, because the Warriors

1170
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:08,800
Speaker 7: have so much more experience, They got step Curry, Jimmy

1171
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 7: Butler's back and healthy. It was one thing if Jimmy

1172
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 7: Butler missed the rest of the series because of that

1173
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 7: back injury, but he came back and he's been Jimmy

1174
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:19,280
Speaker 7: Butler and the Rockets. Don't get me wrong, guys. They're

1175
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:22,280
Speaker 7: a legitimate team. They got good young talent. They also

1176
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 7: have good veteran leadership with Fred van Vliet. But the

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01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 7: Warriors should have been closing this series down five or

1178
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 7: six games. Match shouldn't even go to a seventh game.

1179
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 7: But they've messed around with the series and the Rockets

1180
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:36,680
Speaker 7: are the real deals. So if they don't close this

1181
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 7: out game seven, it's going to be a huge disappointment

1182
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 7: because they made the trade deadline move of the season

1183
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 7: getting Jimmy Butler. They've been a dramatically different team since then.

1184
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 7: If they don't win here, I would think it's even

1185
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:52,800
Speaker 7: more disappointed than the Clippers or the Lakers losing the

1186
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 7: first round. That's been disappointing. But the Warriors post trade

1187
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 7: deadline have been a better team than the Lakers post

1188
01:01:58,880 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 7: trade deadline.

1189
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:05,160
Speaker 4: Mark real quick, you covered the Warriors. What is it

1190
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 4: about him that they're so careless with the ball, because

1191
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:11,480
Speaker 4: that's why they've lost the last two games. It's just

1192
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 4: being careless with the What is it about him? What

1193
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:14,960
Speaker 4: did you see when you were covering them?

1194
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 7: Well, I saw that they were careless with the ball,

1195
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:20,560
Speaker 7: but all know, it was a different context. They were a

1196
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:23,760
Speaker 7: championship team. They had so many All Stars they could

1197
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:26,160
Speaker 7: play with their food a little bit. You have Steph Curry,

1198
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:29,440
Speaker 7: he likes to be creative. Sometimes it's too much, it

1199
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 7: wrote Steve Kerr nuts it was one of those things

1200
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 7: that you know, it makes him seem like he's pedantic

1201
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 7: a little bit, complain about turnovers when he's having an

1202
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:41,760
Speaker 7: all star caliber players coast through double digit wins here.

1203
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 7: I think Steph Curry still has a little bit of

1204
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 7: that second nature to him, but he can't because he

1205
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 7: doesn't have the same kind of margin for error because

1206
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:54,680
Speaker 7: it's a much different context. But yeah, it's wild.

1207
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, nothing pleases me more than seeing Steve Kerr lose.

1208
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 2: I just his smugness just overwhelms me. Like I said,

1209
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 2: you look up the definition of smug and I see

1210
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 2: the face of Steve Kerr.

1211
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:13,840
Speaker 3: I just I'm sorry. It's a personal thing with me.

1212
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:17,520
Speaker 2: I will readily admit the guys went for a championship,

1213
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:19,600
Speaker 2: he's got a ticket for the Hall of Fame. But

1214
01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 2: every time I see Kerr, I just I just can't.

1215
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 4: Stand. Yeah.

1216
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 7: I mean there's a lot of people that like him

1217
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 7: for a competitive fire and a lot of people that don't.

1218
01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:32,720
Speaker 7: I mean, Steve orre Wie. Next segment going into yeah

1219
01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:35,000
Speaker 7: good ridden scrag Popovich, what did you do as a

1220
01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:35,480
Speaker 7: head coach?

1221
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:39,120
Speaker 2: I mean, well, no, no, no, no, I thought again.

1222
01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:41,360
Speaker 2: You know, I'm going to get into that with this

1223
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 2: man right next to me about the whole Popovich situation.

1224
01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 2: But for now, we will allow you to go on

1225
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 2: whatever it's next for you, Mark, I mean, you go

1226
01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:51,800
Speaker 2: from one show to another. We always appreciate your time

1227
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:53,080
Speaker 2: and we'll check in with you next week.

1228
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 7: Thanks so much, Mark, We'll stave all and I'm always

1229
01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:57,720
Speaker 7: honored to be on your show. It's always a pleasure

1230
01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 7: talking MBA and hear in your tasks because always a lot.

1231
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:07,040
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, as I said, everything was rigged for the

1232
01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:08,960
Speaker 2: Lakers to win the championship this year.

1233
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:10,040
Speaker 3: How did that work out?

1234
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:13,640
Speaker 7: Adam got the memos? But I don't Steve.

1235
01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:20,040
Speaker 2: All right, Mark, great stuff is always man. Thanks so much.

1236
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 2: That's Mark Mendina, our NBA insider. Now let's find out

1237
01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:28,320
Speaker 2: what is trending. So aren't you have a feeling about

1238
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 2: tonight's game between the Clips and the Nuggets.

1239
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:35,840
Speaker 8: I think the Los Angeles Clippers will be victorious tonight.

1240
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:37,240
Speaker 4: Really I do too.

1241
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:41,960
Speaker 2: I'm I'm leaning Clippers. Uh well, I mean the man

1242
01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:44,560
Speaker 2: right here, Olden Polonies said the Tyler's never lost one

1243
01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:47,160
Speaker 2: of these games, so that's something again.

1244
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:49,760
Speaker 8: Also seems surprised that we both said the Clippers are going.

1245
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:53,480
Speaker 4: To win today. Yeah, because all good things come to

1246
01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:55,640
Speaker 4: an end, not necessarily.

1247
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:57,480
Speaker 8: I think the good thing that came to the end

1248
01:04:57,600 --> 01:05:00,600
Speaker 8: was that a Denver Nuggets championship contains should run.

1249
01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:03,160
Speaker 2: It would be tough for the Nuggets to have their

1250
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:07,560
Speaker 2: season and with a game seven home loss in consecutive.

1251
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:09,480
Speaker 4: Years, consecutive years, that would be insane.

1252
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:12,080
Speaker 8: Do you see Steve Balmer bought out a whole bunch

1253
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:15,480
Speaker 8: of tickets for fans to go. He flew apparently you know,

1254
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:18,800
Speaker 8: the wall into a dome, right, Yeah, so he bought

1255
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:22,640
Speaker 8: out you know, hundreds of thousands of dollars worth. I

1256
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:23,800
Speaker 8: didn't do the math on a ball.

1257
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:26,040
Speaker 3: He's worth hundreds of billions of dollars.

1258
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:27,560
Speaker 8: So they see I mean still, I mean I get

1259
01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:29,560
Speaker 8: it's a parking ticket to him, but you know, us

1260
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:33,200
Speaker 8: regular folks are still defensive. He's a fans owner, and

1261
01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 8: he bought out a ton of seats under this the

1262
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:38,720
Speaker 8: basket the Nuggets will likely be shooting at in the

1263
01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:41,080
Speaker 8: second half right behind the Clippers bench.

1264
01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:44,200
Speaker 2: Well, when you have the money, do with it. I mean,

1265
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:47,560
Speaker 2: this is his passion. Bomber is just a fan. I mean,

1266
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:48,640
Speaker 2: you give it to the guy.

1267
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 9: Uh.

1268
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:52,280
Speaker 2: He built the arena again two billion out of his pocket,

1269
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:55,440
Speaker 2: but he didn't even blink on that. That place is ridiculous,

1270
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:58,480
Speaker 2: the Intuit Dome. So yeah, flying in fans to give

1271
01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:01,520
Speaker 2: you some kind of edge, any kind of edge. I

1272
01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 2: think it's gonna work, and so do you.

1273
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:04,360
Speaker 4: I do, Yeah, I do.

1274
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:07,400
Speaker 8: Kawhi Leonard in the second round, and my I think so.

1275
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:08,120
Speaker 2: Uh.

1276
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:12,040
Speaker 8: It's been a terrible weather all over America, at least

1277
01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:15,640
Speaker 8: in Baseball plan America. The Philadelphia Phillies have a seven

1278
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:18,080
Speaker 8: and nothing lead over the Diamondbacks, but that looks like

1279
01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:20,680
Speaker 8: it was in the rain delay. Kansas City and Baltimore

1280
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:24,240
Speaker 8: rain delay in the second inning, scoreless Washington, Cincinnati, when

1281
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:26,600
Speaker 8: a long rain delay finally got started at two to

1282
01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:29,960
Speaker 8: two in the second inning. Minnesota and Boston, you geffed it.

1283
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:32,200
Speaker 8: The seventh inning was broken up, but now they're back

1284
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 8: in the eighth Minnesota with a four to three lead.

1285
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:38,120
Speaker 8: Boston scored two runs since coming back from play being

1286
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:41,320
Speaker 8: postponed San Diego and Pittsburgh's in the seventh inning. That

1287
01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:45,160
Speaker 8: game took forever to get started to won one score there,

1288
01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:50,200
Speaker 8: and the Mariners have a one nothing lead over the Rangers, Dodgers,

1289
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:53,320
Speaker 8: all Stodgers and Braves also in our rain delay. So

1290
01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:55,760
Speaker 8: make sure you pack your umbrella, Steck.

1291
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:58,120
Speaker 2: Yes, thank you very much for that, all right, Martin,

1292
01:06:58,120 --> 01:07:01,080
Speaker 2: great stuff. As always again, we're coming live from the

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Speaker 2: I want to talk about Greg Popovich, obviously one of

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Speaker 2: the most celebrated coaches in NBA history, more wins than

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Speaker 2: any coach in NBA history, five championships, never go back

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Speaker 2: to back, interesting in his run with the San Antonio Spurs.

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Speaker 2: But one of the things, and.

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Speaker 3: This is not to diminish his role as a coach.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I know when people try to be critical

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Speaker 2: of Phil Jackson, where they said, wow, that of course

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Speaker 2: he won. I mean he had Michael Jordan, then he

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Speaker 2: had Shaq and Kobe, and then he had Kobe and

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Speaker 2: Pauga Saul and I'm like, okay, this is and the

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Speaker 2: same thing with pat Riley in the showtime. Here's the

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Speaker 2: thing about coaching superstar players. Your ego as a coach

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Speaker 2: has to be on the same level, if not more.

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Speaker 2: If you're coaching a superstar in order for you to

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Speaker 2: be an effective coach with superstars. And this is definitely

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Speaker 2: true of Phil Jackson, definitely true of Pat Riley, and

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Speaker 2: I think definitely true about Greg Popovich.

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Speaker 3: The difference with Popovich I saw was this he had

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Speaker 3: the most.

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Speaker 2: Anonymous superstar player in the city of the NBA and

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Speaker 2: Tim Duncan, I mean, Tim Duncan's career is off the charts,

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Speaker 2: five championships, I mean every box, and no one talks

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Speaker 2: about Tim Duncan when we talk about the all time greats,

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Speaker 2: we never tell you about this guy. But Duncan allowed

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Speaker 2: Popovich to be hard on him in front of everybody else.

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Speaker 2: He took it from Popovich. And so when you bring

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Speaker 2: it in at Jenobili or Tony Parker, Young Kawhi Leonard,

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Speaker 2: when you bring it in other players and they can

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Speaker 2: see how he is treating his biggest star in Tim Duncan,

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Speaker 2: it gives you a lot of power as a coach.

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Speaker 2: There had to be a huge trust between Greg Popovich

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Speaker 2: and Tim Duncan. But when we talk about coaching in

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Speaker 2: the NBA, we know some guys are just sitting there,

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Speaker 2: other guys are coaching. What are what are your thoughts

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Speaker 2: on the coaching career of Greg Popovich and where does

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Speaker 2: he rank in your lexicon of the great coaches in

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Speaker 2: the NBA, certainly in your time following this league.

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Speaker 4: One of the legends in coaching, one of the best

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Speaker 4: he and why is that he empowered his players. You know,

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Speaker 4: he was jovial. You know, he gave everybody a hard time,

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Speaker 4: like especially sideline reporters and everything else. But he was

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Speaker 4: a fun loving guy. He was jovial, you know, like

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Speaker 4: voting to see if Patty Mills will go back in

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Speaker 4: a game, you know, talking to Tony Parker about back

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Speaker 4: then load management and I'm going to get to that

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Speaker 4: in a minute. But he was just a guy that

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Speaker 4: knew the game x'es and o's, but at the same time,

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Speaker 4: he knew egos, he knew people. Yes, you're right. He

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Speaker 4: talked to Tim, Hey, I'm gonna go hard at you,

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Speaker 4: and Tim was like, go hard at me. But it

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Speaker 4: made it better for them, you know, them winning. They

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Speaker 4: were winning championships every other year. And so to me,

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Speaker 4: he's a legend in the game, on and off the court.

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Speaker 4: You know, he did a lot of stuff off the

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Speaker 4: court that I I gotta tip my hat to him.

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Speaker 4: But at the same time, there's some things he did

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Speaker 4: that I don't agree with. That low management thing, Steve, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: was crap.

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Speaker 2: Well it was crap, and of course he got called

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Speaker 2: on it late one year when he benched his entire team,

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Speaker 2: and you know, his idea was, I'll take the heat

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Speaker 2: for it. The fact that he was so vocal on

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Speaker 2: social issues that were important to players in the NBA,

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Speaker 2: how much was that a factor for him to get

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Speaker 2: the endorsement from players to you know, be outspoken because

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Speaker 2: it didn't sit well with everyone obviously, but he didn't

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Speaker 2: seem to care about that. He seemed to side with

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Speaker 2: the players if it was important to them, even if

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Speaker 2: it was an off court issue. He was very vocal

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Speaker 2: in support of their stance. How important is that to

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Speaker 2: gain a trust from a basketball team.

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Speaker 4: Well, he had to trust and that was earned because

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Speaker 4: I remember when he got the job, he wasn't even

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Speaker 4: supposed to be to even get the job. I thought

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Speaker 4: they were gonna fire Pop early on in his career.

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Speaker 3: Well, remember he basically hired himself.

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Speaker 4: And the team got together and they're like, yo, we

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Speaker 4: want him as our coach. So with that being said,

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Speaker 4: Pop has always been about player empowerment players period, you know,

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Speaker 4: just being on their side. But yet he still had

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Speaker 4: his way of doing things. He wasn't tyrannical with it.

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Speaker 4: It was just that, hey, okay, this is how we

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Speaker 4: do it the Spurs way. This is you know, we're

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Speaker 4: gonna do it A, B and C. Certain players came in,

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Speaker 4: they didn't follow suit, you know, Stephen Jackson for example,

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Speaker 4: but he loved Steven Jackson. But at the same time

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Speaker 4: they were rules.

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Speaker 2: Well what happened to Kawhi Kawhi was.

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Speaker 4: Just Kawhi just didn't want to be there anymore. That's

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Speaker 4: about them.

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Speaker 2: Line why I mean it just I mean he had

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Speaker 2: his new superstar player. They finally won another championship after

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Speaker 2: all those years. Kawhi is the NBA Finals MVP. He's

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Speaker 2: the best player in the league arguably over about a

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Speaker 2: three year span there with San Antonio, and then he

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Speaker 2: just decided, I don't want to be here anymore.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, some guys are like that because I think the

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Speaker 4: injury when everything started happening, I think Kawhi was really hurt,

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Speaker 4: but yet the Spurs medical staff was telling him he's

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Speaker 4: not hurt or he can play through it, and I

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Speaker 4: think that rubbed Kawhi the wrong way a little bit.

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Speaker 4: And so to me because if you talk to DeMar DeRozan,

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01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:43,400
Speaker 4: pop was at his side when his father died, you know,

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Speaker 4: stuff like that. So he's done that, and so again

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Speaker 4: you can't he's proven more than that Kawhi was a

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Speaker 4: one off. Like I said, I think the way his

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Speaker 4: medical stuff was handled, that's what rubbed Kawhi the wrong way.

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Speaker 2: Well, to me, there's a way one way to judge

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Speaker 2: coaches or managers. How many championships do you win? And

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Speaker 2: when you're one of the old timers like Popovich, that

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Speaker 2: means you're on that. Matt Rushmore won the all time

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Speaker 2: great coaches in NBA history. All right, coming up on

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Speaker 2: the other, so we're gonna have some predictions from olden polonies.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna go on the record, who's gonna win this

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Speaker 2: game between the Nuggets and the Clippers that is underway

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01:13:23,120 --> 01:13:23,599
Speaker 2: right now.

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Speaker 3: Who is gonna win that game tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Between the Warriors and the Rockets. We'll break it down here.

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Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Saturday, Steve Hartman, olden polonies here

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Saturday were coming live from the Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Radio studios. By the way, coming up damn by Ryan

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Speaker 2: Hollins here on Fox Sports Radio. Another big there, Ryan Hollins,

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Speaker 2: my fellow UCLA bruin, the great Dan Byer. Hey. I

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Speaker 2: want to thank Martin today just again just doing shows

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01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:59,679
Speaker 2: up to he does everything, phenomenal talent, Mary Mack, great

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01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:05,599
Speaker 2: music today, Mary Mac. Diversity in music is always amazing

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Speaker 2: to me. And then of course Ian is our producer.

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Speaker 4: Ian.

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01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:11,679
Speaker 2: Did you win money on the Derby tail?

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Speaker 7: I did not, but I did consider betting on journalism,

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01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:17,040
Speaker 7: which I didn't.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad I didn't. Yeah, journalism was the favorite, right, Well, no,

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Speaker 2: there was second and second horse. I believe three to one, yeah,

1434
01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:26,720
Speaker 2: second place. Yeah, people are off close to me. You know,

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01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:29,360
Speaker 2: why aren't you your journalists? I go, I'm not a journalist.

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01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:32,240
Speaker 2: I'm a sports sports soccer radio guy. Well, Martin on

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01:14:32,280 --> 01:14:35,240
Speaker 2: his way out made a joke sovereignty beat journalism.

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Speaker 3: That's not a good day for America.

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01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:40,120
Speaker 2: Not a good day for America on that. All right,

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01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:43,439
Speaker 2: Right now we are looking at this Clippers Nuggets game.

1441
01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:46,200
Speaker 2: It's early six minutes to go on the first court.

1442
01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:50,439
Speaker 2: That Clippers have an eleven to nine lead. All right,

1443
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:56,040
Speaker 2: So you said earlier that you like the Nuggets here olden,

1444
01:14:56,160 --> 01:14:58,840
Speaker 2: but now that the Clippers are dominating this game by

1445
01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:00,960
Speaker 2: two points with six minutes to go on the first quarter.

1446
01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:04,920
Speaker 2: All right, So have you seen anything early on to

1447
01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:07,840
Speaker 2: give you a little preview of how this game is

1448
01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:09,719
Speaker 2: going to play out? Or is it just too early?

1449
01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:12,840
Speaker 4: It's too early. I didn't like Christian Brown missing the

1450
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:15,720
Speaker 4: two free throws. You know that's a telltale. Also, that's

1451
01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:18,080
Speaker 4: how I know when the Warriors most likely going to

1452
01:15:18,160 --> 01:15:20,679
Speaker 4: lose a game when Steph Curry misses a free throw. Yeah,

1453
01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:23,200
Speaker 4: in the last two games he's missed a free throw

1454
01:15:23,439 --> 01:15:27,400
Speaker 4: and it's insane. But you know the Clipper is right

1455
01:15:27,439 --> 01:15:29,960
Speaker 4: now playing well and they're only up too and so

1456
01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:32,120
Speaker 4: it bolts well for the Nuggets.

1457
01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:35,400
Speaker 3: Is this a technical foul? What happened here?

1458
01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:36,879
Speaker 4: A defense?

1459
01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:41,120
Speaker 2: All illegal defense against the Clips? So free throw four

1460
01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:45,040
Speaker 2: and Norman Powell is not happy with that? Calls what

1461
01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:47,880
Speaker 2: an incredible story. When Norman Powell was a UCLA, he

1462
01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:50,880
Speaker 2: was a solid college play, wasn't an All American, he

1463
01:15:50,960 --> 01:15:53,720
Speaker 2: was nothing like that. And you're like, oh, he's going

1464
01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:56,120
Speaker 2: to get a chance maybe to you know, catch on

1465
01:15:56,240 --> 01:15:58,160
Speaker 2: sit on the bench in the NBA for a couple

1466
01:15:58,200 --> 01:16:02,320
Speaker 2: of years. I never that Norman Powell would be this

1467
01:16:02,439 --> 01:16:04,479
Speaker 2: kind of player, because I'll be honest, he was never

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01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:06,200
Speaker 2: that player at UCLA.

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Speaker 4: I did, I saw it.

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Speaker 2: What did you say he had?

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Speaker 4: We had him an IAU program.

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Speaker 2: Did UCLA not use him properly?

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01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:15,320
Speaker 4: They did not use him? Probably same thing with Russell Westbrook.

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Speaker 4: Russell Redbrook went four, Yeah, pick number four, and he

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01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:21,320
Speaker 4: turned out into a Hall of Fame player. Sometimes. You know,

1476
01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:25,679
Speaker 4: Michael Jordan was limited in college. You know, it happens.

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01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:28,200
Speaker 2: They always had the running gag about Dean Smith's the

1478
01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:29,519
Speaker 2: only guy that could hold him under.

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01:16:29,479 --> 01:16:30,400
Speaker 4: Under under twenty.

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Speaker 2: Under twenty is what he was in college.

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01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:35,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, and so to me, you know, and some people

1482
01:16:35,640 --> 01:16:38,479
Speaker 4: just developed later. And right now the Nuggets are up too.

1483
01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:42,080
Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean Norman Powell is a great player.

1484
01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:44,559
Speaker 4: He's worked hard to become this player.

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01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:45,120
Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, he reminds me of another guy that overachieved based

1487
01:16:48,280 --> 01:16:49,920
Speaker 2: on his UCLA career, Matt Barnes.

1488
01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:52,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Matt Barnes was a guy.

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01:16:52,439 --> 01:16:55,440
Speaker 2: He was, you know, like a football player playing basketball.

1490
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:58,400
Speaker 2: He saw some progress each year at UCLA, but it

1491
01:16:58,400 --> 01:17:01,360
Speaker 2: didn't translate into a a decade long career in They.

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01:17:01,439 --> 01:17:03,880
Speaker 4: Had to go watch him in high school, did you? Yeah,

1493
01:17:04,280 --> 01:17:06,080
Speaker 4: you know when I was playing for the Kings, you know,

1494
01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:08,439
Speaker 4: but he was a he was a way better football player.

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01:17:08,479 --> 01:17:11,160
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's what it was. Well, you could tell

1496
01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:13,280
Speaker 2: he had a football mentality on the corp. Would it

1497
01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:16,519
Speaker 2: translates to the NBA again? So much of success in

1498
01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:19,719
Speaker 2: the NBA right place, right time, right system, right coach,

1499
01:17:19,880 --> 01:17:23,080
Speaker 2: right everything for certain guys. I mean, the superstars are

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Speaker 2: going to succeed anywhere, all right. How about tomorrow? How

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01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:28,680
Speaker 2: worried are you about the Warriors? I mean, after they

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01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:32,559
Speaker 2: won Game four, they were celebrating like the series was over,

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01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:35,000
Speaker 2: and it's not over.

1504
01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:35,320
Speaker 5: Now.

1505
01:17:35,320 --> 01:17:37,760
Speaker 2: They have a road game tomorrow and they gotta beat

1506
01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:40,479
Speaker 2: the young Rockets team that you feel like even though

1507
01:17:40,520 --> 01:17:42,800
Speaker 2: they're the home team and as a two seed, I

1508
01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:46,559
Speaker 2: guess technically they should be favored, but no one is

1509
01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:50,840
Speaker 2: picking them to win, and so to me, they should

1510
01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:52,160
Speaker 2: be a relaxed team tomorrow.

1511
01:17:52,439 --> 01:17:55,960
Speaker 4: They went on a run in Game five and they

1512
01:17:56,080 --> 01:17:59,439
Speaker 4: was celebrating, and that shook me a little bit because

1513
01:17:59,479 --> 01:18:02,160
Speaker 4: I was like, waiting, this is the Warriors right now celebrating.

1514
01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:05,840
Speaker 4: It's still like a whole quarter left. You know, this

1515
01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:07,640
Speaker 4: was like in the third quarter and I was like,

1516
01:18:08,160 --> 01:18:10,439
Speaker 4: that's a little strange for the Warriors to be doing that.

1517
01:18:11,160 --> 01:18:14,680
Speaker 4: And but I still think I'm gonna go with the

1518
01:18:14,680 --> 01:18:19,439
Speaker 4: Warriors only because the full aspect of the experience of

1519
01:18:19,560 --> 01:18:24,439
Speaker 4: Game seven. Iman Thompson's never seen that, Jalen Green's never

1520
01:18:24,479 --> 01:18:28,080
Speaker 4: seen it. Sam Goon has never seen it. So that's

1521
01:18:28,120 --> 01:18:30,400
Speaker 4: what I'm going with right now. I'm gonna I'm sticking

1522
01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:34,040
Speaker 4: with my I don't like waffling. I picked the Warriors. Hey,

1523
01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:38,760
Speaker 4: they're seventh seed, so the Rockets are supposed to win.

1524
01:18:39,080 --> 01:18:41,280
Speaker 2: I want to ask you about one second round series.

1525
01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:45,040
Speaker 2: How about that crossover by Brunson for the three pointer?

1526
01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:50,600
Speaker 2: Oo oh my unbelievable forty points. He was voted the

1527
01:18:50,720 --> 01:18:53,879
Speaker 2: clutch player of the Year in the NBA.

1528
01:18:53,240 --> 01:18:55,880
Speaker 4: Against a great defender.

1529
01:18:55,160 --> 01:18:58,120
Speaker 2: Ah, he put him on the ground and then knocks

1530
01:18:58,160 --> 01:19:00,320
Speaker 2: down the three to give the Knicks to win. What

1531
01:19:00,400 --> 01:19:02,679
Speaker 2: do you think the knicks chances are, if any against

1532
01:19:02,720 --> 01:19:03,920
Speaker 2: the Celtics.

1533
01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:05,840
Speaker 4: They have a shot. I like the Knicks. I think

1534
01:19:05,880 --> 01:19:08,240
Speaker 4: I picked them on on the odd couple, and so

1535
01:19:08,479 --> 01:19:10,080
Speaker 4: I like them to win.

1536
01:19:10,400 --> 01:19:10,639
Speaker 5: Win.

1537
01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:13,839
Speaker 4: I have the Knicks winning against the Celtics.

1538
01:19:13,840 --> 01:19:17,280
Speaker 2: Well, I have felt all along. I don't understand why

1539
01:19:17,439 --> 01:19:20,200
Speaker 2: no one likes Cleveland. I mean, they have the defensive

1540
01:19:20,200 --> 01:19:22,639
Speaker 2: Player of the Year, two All Star guards, two guys

1541
01:19:22,680 --> 01:19:24,360
Speaker 2: off the bench that were in the top three or

1542
01:19:24,360 --> 01:19:26,680
Speaker 2: four voting for six Man of the Year. What there

1543
01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:29,160
Speaker 2: is they're not to like about Cleveland?

1544
01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:33,599
Speaker 4: I picked Cleveland also, well, they got two shot blockers.

1545
01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:35,320
Speaker 2: But I hear everybody else like, well, who are the

1546
01:19:35,320 --> 01:19:36,200
Speaker 2: Celtics gonna play?

1547
01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:39,439
Speaker 4: Everybody wants to pick the team of the day.

1548
01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:43,000
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, so you're so you're picking the Knicks

1549
01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:44,440
Speaker 2: to knock out the Celtics.

1550
01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:46,519
Speaker 4: I picked the Knicks to be the same They've always

1551
01:19:46,520 --> 01:19:50,479
Speaker 4: played against, played well against the Celtics. You know last year,

1552
01:19:51,160 --> 01:19:54,880
Speaker 4: the injuries, you know, somebody the Celtics had a road

1553
01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:58,639
Speaker 4: map okay to the finals last year, right, So I'm

1554
01:19:58,680 --> 01:20:00,679
Speaker 4: not I'm not tripping on them too much.

1555
01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:03,080
Speaker 2: Okay, and Cleveland, I'll have a nice easy walk over

1556
01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:05,559
Speaker 2: against the Pacers or cause the Pacers give them trouble.

1557
01:20:05,680 --> 01:20:10,439
Speaker 4: No, hey, Halliburton's dad's out. So what did you.

1558
01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:13,439
Speaker 2: Make of that? What was going on there? I felt

1559
01:20:13,479 --> 01:20:17,320
Speaker 2: it chow butt down. I felt bad for Tyres It's like, Dad,

1560
01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:18,479
Speaker 2: what are you doing?

1561
01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:21,400
Speaker 4: He's trying to give Tim Moran a run for his money.

1562
01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:25,320
Speaker 2: What are you doing? Dad? You're embarrassing me right now,

1563
01:20:25,720 --> 01:20:27,240
Speaker 2: sit down, let me play.

1564
01:20:27,439 --> 01:20:27,760
Speaker 4: All right?

1565
01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:30,120
Speaker 2: Coming up, we got Dad and Rio keep it right here.

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01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:32,280
Speaker 2: Much more coming up on Fox Sports Radio