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Speaker 1: The Charlie Kirk Show starts now.

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Speaker 2: February twenty second is going to be National Angel Family Day.

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Speaker 2: On February twenty second. Two years ago, a brilliant twenty

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Speaker 2: two year old nursing student named Lincoln Hope Rally went

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Speaker 2: out for a run on a college campus in Georgia.

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Speaker 2: Lincoln was viciously attacked, brutally beaten, and murdered by an

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Speaker 2: illegal alien gang member who the last administration heartlessly released

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Speaker 2: into our country no problems, let him in, letting everybody.

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Speaker 2: They didn't check anybody, they lit in everybody. Among the

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Speaker 2: first bills I signed into law after taking office last year.

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Speaker 1: Was the Lincoln Riley Actor.

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Speaker 3: I'm so proud of it, to.

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Speaker 2: Ensure illegal alien criminals are rapidly removed from the United

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Speaker 2: States of America. That's okay with the media. That bill

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Speaker 2: has already been really playing a big role in the

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Speaker 2: life of our country. Resulted in over twenty one thousand

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Speaker 2: illegal alien arrest twenty one.

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Speaker 4: Thousand, mister President, It's an honor to be here today.

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Speaker 4: It's an honor to be speaking with you guys. My

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Speaker 4: name is Ethon Carreri. I'm a police officer in Palm

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Speaker 4: Beach County, Florida, and a former New York City Police

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Speaker 4: officer well serving the New York City Police Department, I

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Speaker 4: personally arrested jose E Bara for in endangering the welfare

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Speaker 4: of a child.

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Speaker 5: A few months later.

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Speaker 4: I saw a space again in the news after he

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Speaker 4: viciously murdered Lake and Riley. I did my job. I

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Speaker 4: put him in custody. The system failed. No detainer, no accountability,

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Speaker 4: no deportation, and an innocent American life was taken. If

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Speaker 4: you enter our country illegally, there will be consequences under

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Speaker 4: this administration. The American citizens must always come first to

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Speaker 4: Lake and Riley's family. Your law should have never happened.

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Speaker 4: We owe it to you and every American family to

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Speaker 4: enforce our laws, secure our border, and protect innocent lives.

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Speaker 4: Mister President, thank you so much for having me here today,

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Speaker 4: and thank you for all you've done for our country.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: Stories like Lincoln's are one more reason why my administration

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Speaker 2: will do everything in our power to end the score

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Speaker 2: of saying to.

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Speaker 1: Our cities once in row, they protect criminals.

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Speaker 6: Why do why do people fight?

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Speaker 1: They protect criminals with a vengeance.

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Speaker 7: They fight for these.

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Speaker 2: Criminals like murderers, are protecting murders, fight for them so hard.

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Speaker 1: I can't there's something wrong with them.

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Speaker 8: Do I think the criminal cartels are going to go

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Speaker 8: away without our moment?

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Speaker 9: Absolutely don't.

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Speaker 8: That Mexico has failed in decades ago. And like I said,

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Speaker 8: a lot of Mexico's crop ex for military's crop, much

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Speaker 8: of the Mexican law enforcements crop, much of the Mexican

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Speaker 8: government's croup, and many of them the WHYB crup Will

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Speaker 8: you take the payoff? And we tell you that will

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Speaker 8: kill you and your family and they will, So you know,

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Speaker 8: I think if we're the white cartels out the face

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Speaker 8: the earth Mets will be such a better country. I

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Speaker 8: think President Trump did exactly the right thing designate in Paris.

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Speaker 8: I think he's doing the right thing, offer Mexico his

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Speaker 8: assistance and taking them ount.

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Speaker 7: We are going to start now hitting the land. With

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Speaker 7: regard to the cartels, the cartels are running Mexico. It's

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Speaker 7: very very sad to watch and see what's happened to

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Speaker 7: that country. But the cartels are running, and they're killing

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Speaker 7: two hundred and fifty three hundred thousand people in our

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Speaker 7: Family lose a child.

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Speaker 3: Or a parent.

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Speaker 10: Can you explain this alliance between the president, her party,

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Speaker 10: the Morena Party and the cartels.

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Speaker 11: Yes, the party has finance, has given the cartels have

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Speaker 11: given so much money to these politicians, Narco politicians of

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Speaker 11: Morena to get into office, to get powered, so they

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Speaker 11: protect the Mexican government, protects the cartails. That is why

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Speaker 11: President Shambla doesn't want the strong American leadership to help

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Speaker 12: Charlie Kirks, every day there's a battle for your mind,

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Speaker 12: raging information coming from every angle, but the will to

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Speaker 12: the sea, I fear not. You found the place for truth,

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Speaker 12: the voice of a generation that still has the will

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Speaker 12: to believe in the greatest country in the history of

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Speaker 12: the world. This is the Charlie Kirk Show. Suck a lot.

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Speaker 1: Here we go on.

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Speaker 13: All right, Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. What a

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Speaker 13: weekend it is, Charlie twenty so hi, I know it

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Speaker 13: would be. It's February twenty third, twenty twenty six. Here

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Speaker 13: at the Bitcoin dot Com Studios in Phoenix, Arizona. Apparently

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Speaker 13: there's a blizzard going on on the East Coast, not

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Speaker 13: here in Phoenix, but we'll find out. State of Union

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Speaker 13: is tomorrow and I'm planning on traveling there if the

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Speaker 14: If not, you'll see me here tomorrow.

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Speaker 13: But what a weekend for American sports and Olympic We

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Speaker 13: weren't debating whether or not the men's team winning US

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Speaker 13: goal goal for the US against Canada was a top

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Speaker 13: ten American sports moment, and I think it is.

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Speaker 5: I kind of feel like it has to be.

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Speaker 10: It's it's not as big as the Miracle on Ice

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Speaker 10: for a few reasons, but it comes close and it.

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Speaker 5: It sort of captures the spirit of it.

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Speaker 10: You think I saw a good take that was in

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Speaker 10: nineteen eighty we defeated Soviet Communism, and this time we

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Speaker 10: defeated basically the twenty twenty sixth version of Soviet Communism,

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Speaker 10: which is basically hyper gay, hyper wokeism.

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Speaker 5: That's what Canada's gone all in on being.

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Speaker 13: I would venture to guess that Canadian wokeisms is as

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Speaker 13: large an existential threat, if not bigger, to our way

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Speaker 13: of life and to the survival of Western civilization as

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Speaker 13: Soviet Communism survival.

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Speaker 5: Quite literally, given their love of assistant suicide.

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Speaker 13: Yes, euthanasia, the euthanasia country. But it was a beautiful moment.

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Speaker 13: I would just let's just go through some of these

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Speaker 13: clips because we a new star has been born, Jack Hughes,

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Speaker 13: And this was the clip that when I I was

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Speaker 13: busy with family yesterday, so I was only like half

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Speaker 13: checked in and this clip came across the wire immediately,

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Speaker 13: and I was just filled with patriotism at Jack Hughes

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Speaker 13: and the way he handled this moment.

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Speaker 14: Two thirty five.

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Speaker 5: This is all about our country, right know.

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Speaker 15: I love the USA, I love my teammates.

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Speaker 13: It's unbelievable, the us R hockey brotherhood.

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Speaker 5: It's so strong, and we have so much support from

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Speaker 1: I'm so proud to be Americans.

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Speaker 14: So proud to be American today.

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Speaker 13: He said, you know, that's a great Canadian team over there,

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Speaker 13: but this is American hockey. We did this for the country.

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Speaker 13: And it was just like we've seen so many bad

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Speaker 13: skaters that can't win gold and that fall. Sorry rooting

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Speaker 13: But then we saw so many good stories, right like

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Speaker 13: Alyssa lou who made maybe a liberal, maybe woke, but

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Speaker 13: she didn't disrespect us on the national stage, and that

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Speaker 13: we salute her and she won gold and then you

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Speaker 13: get this moment. It was just and by the way,

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Speaker 13: we had more medals, more gold medals than we'd had

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Speaker 13: since two thousand and two. The Salt Lake City game,

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Speaker 13: we had the most medals we'd ever had.

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Speaker 10: I think before we move on to anything else, we

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Speaker 10: the golden goal, which is so just context For those

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Speaker 10: who didn't watch the game, it was very tight the

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Speaker 5: It was one to one.

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Speaker 10: I would say, actually, clearly Canada is the stronger teams,

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Speaker 5: Shots on goal. We had some really great ones.

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Speaker 10: There was a Canadian player misses a wide open shot

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Speaker 10: at I don't know, five feet away. If that, there

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Speaker 10: the goalie was amazing. And then I'm told this is

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Speaker 10: the clip. This is in overtime sudden death. That's one

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Speaker 10: it's only two forty four, and it's only the or

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Speaker 14: That's fine, throw it up, Yeah, throw it up.

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Speaker 5: We'll narrate, and he's taking it down. They have it

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Speaker 5: It's great. I really love the Canadian announcer. He's very crestfallen.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, of course.

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Speaker 13: Well you know it's great though, is that Jack Hughes

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Speaker 13: had actually got a high stick penalty against him, loses

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Speaker 13: the women's team that also won gold.

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Speaker 5: Oh, it's amazing.

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Speaker 13: So the Hughes family won three gold medals from this Olympics,

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Speaker 13: which is just phenomenal.

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Speaker 10: Several family affairs. Because I think we also had the

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Speaker 10: the team as well. Uh so we have some great clips.

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Speaker 10: In fact, speaking of the him getting his teeth mangled,

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Speaker 3: I'm lucky.

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Speaker 17: I'm from the best country in the world, and we

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Speaker 5: Lucky I'm American and they're going to fix you right up.

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Speaker 13: It's just so good anyways, So this is just one

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Speaker 13: because it's just so annoying. Well, actually one other good

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Speaker 13: and they welcomed his kids out for the group picture.

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Speaker 13: And I'm just I'm gonna be really honest. I got

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Speaker 13: emotional watching this because they honored the widow, they honored

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Speaker 14: And it was a beauty.

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Speaker 13: I think we have an image of this if you

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Speaker 13: beautiful that happened. It actually kind of became a mainstream

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Speaker 13: news story. I think jd Vance said something about it

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Speaker 13: at the time. It was during the election season. Yeah,

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Speaker 13: super popular player. They called him mister Hockey.

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Speaker 14: I think they have hockey, Johnny Hockey.

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Speaker 10: Huge ambassador for the game, and then just he and

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Speaker 10: his brother killed by a drunk driver which never happened.

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Speaker 13: But they honored his kids. They brought him out for

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Speaker 13: the picture. It was actually his son, Johnny Junior's birthday.

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Speaker 13: It was the two hundred and ninety eighth birthday of

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Speaker 13: George Washington and it's obviously America two fifty.

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Speaker 14: So there was just I mean, we were.

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Speaker 13: Gonna win, guys, there was no chances. That's how I

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Speaker 13: look at it.

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Speaker 14: But honestly, just.

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Speaker 13: A beautiful, beautiful, touching moment. And then onto the annoying part.

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Speaker 13: So Cash Betel and I don't know, Blake might feel

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Speaker 13: differently than this.

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Speaker 14: I understand. I understand both sides here.

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Speaker 13: But Cash Battel is over there, apparently on another official

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Speaker 13: business doing OPSEC. He's got meetings, has planned well in advance,

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Speaker 13: according to his team. But he's a hockey player and

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Speaker 13: he's a huge hockey fan. They invite him down into

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Speaker 13: You want more. We all want more. But Cash in

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Speaker 14: Look at him, they're all.

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Speaker 13: But guess what. It's weird. You know that President Trump

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Speaker 5: All I would say is it's a lot of weird.

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Speaker 13: But basically, all hell broke loose in Mexico at least,

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Speaker 14: But here's the deal.

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Speaker 13: There are currently cartel members existing in all fifty states.

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Speaker 14: This isn't just like a.

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Speaker 14: I think they'd killed him in there, That's.

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Speaker 14: You have to put them on the defense.

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Speaker 13: So this is what's interesting. President Trump's policies are making

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Speaker 13: This was from September twenty twenty five. CNN interviewed one

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Speaker 10: I think what President Trump has been doing has been

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Speaker 19: Oh yes, but it's becoming more difficult, you think.

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Speaker 13: And President Trump is on record stating the case very plainly.

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Speaker 7: We are going to start now hitting land with regard

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Speaker 7: very sad to watch and see what's happened to that country.

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Speaker 7: But the cartels are running, and they're killing two hundred

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Speaker 13: So Cartel Jalisco New generation was famous for a couple

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Speaker 13: the country. They're famous for fentanyl, running cocaine. They're also

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Speaker 5: They lifted up.

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Speaker 13: This Elemento as their pre eminent leader.

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Speaker 14: Right.

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Speaker 5: It was a cult of personality.

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Speaker 13: So for them to lose this guy would be extraordinarily destabilizing.

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Speaker 13: them to act. They finally did it after a year

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Speaker 13: with our help and involvement. So we'll see how this develops. Again,

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Speaker 13: We're going to cover this more an hour or two,

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Speaker 13: so stay tuned. Steve Dace joins US next.

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Speaker 15: Welcome back to this Real America's Voice news break. I'm

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Speaker 15: Terrence Bates. The death of the leader of Mexico's Jalisco

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Speaker 15: has set off a deadly and brutal rampage from cartel members.

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Speaker 15: The group is said to be Mexico's most powerful drug cartel.

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Speaker 15: Cartel members are blamed for burning cars, blocking roads in

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Speaker 15: more than twenty Mexican states, even storming at least one airport,

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Speaker 15: setting a plane ablaze there. At last check, at least

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Speaker 15: twenty five Mexican National Guard members were killed in the operation.

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Speaker 15: Elmncho as the deceased cartel leader is known, was the

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Speaker 15: top target of the Mexican and US governments because he

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Speaker 15: was one of the top fentanyl traffickers into the United States.

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Speaker 15: Last year, President Trump made the Hallisco New Generation Cartel

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Speaker 15: a foreign terrorist organization. The White House says it provided

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Speaker 15: intelligence support to the Mexican government to help find El

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Speaker 15: Menshaw and as President Trump continues to secure the border

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Speaker 15: and crack down on illegal immigration. Earlier this morning, he

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Speaker 15: hosted Angel Families at the White House. Those are American

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Speaker 15: families who have lost loved ones to criminals who were

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Speaker 15: in the United States illegally.

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Speaker 20: Thank you, sir for putting America first and putting these

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Speaker 20: angel families first and letting everybody know their stories because

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Speaker 20: we matter. Thank you, sir. My brother, Rocky Jones, was

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Speaker 20: murdered by a criminal legal alien. He was simply at

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Speaker 20: the wrong place at the wrong time. This man was arrested, released,

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Speaker 20: and within twenty four hours he went on a shooting

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Speaker 20: spree in central California. Unfortunately, my brother was in the

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Speaker 20: wrong place at the wrong time. This man shot my

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Speaker 20: brother eight times at point blank range. I pray that

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Speaker 20: no other family has to go through that. Unfortunately they will.

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Speaker 15: Today's event was meant to recognize twenty two year old

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Speaker 15: Georgia nursing student Lake and Riley, who of course, was

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Speaker 15: brutally murdered by a Venezuelan illegal alien, which she was

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Speaker 15: while she was out for a jog. The President also

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Speaker 15: signed a proclamation designating Angel Family Day. A man is

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Speaker 15: dead after the Secret Service says he drove into a

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Speaker 15: secure perimeter at mar Lago early Sunday morning. The Secret

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Speaker 15: Service says the twenty one year old had a gas

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Speaker 15: can as well as a shotgun on him when he

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Speaker 15: was shot and killed. Investigators say the suspect is from

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Speaker 15: North Carolina. That's a quick chuck of your headlines.

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Speaker 13: Steve Days, host of the Steve Days Show on Blaze TV,

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Speaker 13: Welcome back to the show, my friend.

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Speaker 5: It's good to have you.

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Speaker 1: Good to see you too.

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Speaker 14: How are you doing doing great?

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Speaker 13: So, Steve, you had this great tweet and you were talking.

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Speaker 13: I mean, we can put it up on screen if

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Speaker 13: you want a little bit long three thirteen. So I

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Speaker 13: just want to pull some some threads from here. You're

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Speaker 13: saying you're a child of the eighties. You detest Iran,

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Speaker 13: you cheer. You know, if you woke up and Massa,

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Speaker 13: if if we woke up this morning and Masad took

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Speaker 13: them out. Basically, however, we were told that they were

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Speaker 13: taken care of, that this was already done, and now

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Speaker 13: we're gearing up for another another invasion. Here it looks

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Speaker 13: like could be more kinetic activity, and you you start

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Speaker 13: to I felt like you were. You were channeling your

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Speaker 13: your inner Charlie, where you're saying, we don't we hate

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Speaker 13: the brain rot of anti Semitism, but like for a moment,

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Speaker 13: put yourself in their shoes and try and understand where

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Speaker 13: they're coming from, try and make sense of this, their

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Speaker 13: counter theories and this all of the I thought you

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Speaker 13: put it beautifully, So please check out this tweet from Steve.

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Speaker 13: He put it much more eloquently than I have just now.

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Speaker 13: But break it down your big idea here, Steve, and

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Speaker 13: why you're trying, why you felt it was important that

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Speaker 13: you put this out.

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Speaker 17: Well, I mean, some of this is exactly what Charlie

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Speaker 17: and I texted each other last June, the night that

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Speaker 17: we bombed Ron the first time. And generationally, I'm going

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Speaker 17: to be way more jingoistic about let's make Aron the

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Speaker 17: Iranian regime assume room temperature. But I also understand the tension.

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Speaker 17: I have a son in law that's enlisted right now.

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Speaker 17: He was told by his unit two years ago that

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Speaker 17: if Joe Biden won, they were all just going to

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Speaker 17: go over to Syria for two years for.

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Speaker 1: Reasons, and so I'm very sense.

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Speaker 17: I mean, that was basically it for reasons, you know,

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Speaker 17: And so I'm sensitive to this in that what is

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Speaker 17: the point of what we are doing here?

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Speaker 1: And have we explained it?

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Speaker 17: And hey, listen, I was the guy on the main

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Speaker 17: stage that you all put up against the gropers, all right,

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Speaker 17: So I mean, I think everybody knows where I stand

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Speaker 17: on that entire debate. But I talk to a lot

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Speaker 17: of those young men, Andrew and Blake after that, after

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Speaker 17: that talk, and a lot of them, frankly, are just

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Speaker 17: driven to the likes of Fuintes on a couple of impulses.

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Speaker 17: Number One, they don't want to be another generation of

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Speaker 17: wimpy dudes. They don't want to grow up and be

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Speaker 17: Mike Pence with the perpetual furrowed brow and wearing sweater

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Speaker 17: vests in July and Hawaiian shirts in January.

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Speaker 1: They don't want to be that guy. That's part of it,

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Speaker 1: you know.

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Speaker 17: And when we skipped kind of a generation of masculine

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Speaker 17: modeling and leadership. So they're kind of searching and somebody

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Speaker 17: like Fuentes kind of steps into that void and gives

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Speaker 17: them an aberrant I would say, demonic inversion of that.

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Speaker 17: But the other is they have a lot of questions

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Speaker 17: that I think we as the older generation have to

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Speaker 17: answer questions like why is it harder than ever to

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Speaker 17: you have one, to find a house and to buy one.

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Speaker 17: We have the highest median age home buyer in American

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Speaker 17: history right now, forty one years old.

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Speaker 14: All right?

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Speaker 1: Why is why am I losing jobs in.

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Speaker 17: Universities even if I want to go become a gay

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Speaker 17: race communist or in the workplace to over twenty million

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Speaker 17: foreigners that were imported over the last four years under

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Speaker 17: Joe Biden, And I just think when we tell everybody

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Speaker 17: last June that we obliterated Iran's nuclear capability, and then

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Speaker 17: we're being told a mere eight months later that nope,

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Speaker 17: it's back, and now it requires the largest asset deployment

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Speaker 17: of our military since the invasion of Iraq, I just

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Speaker 17: think we need to step back and understand some of

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Speaker 17: the reasons why our young men are are contemplating going

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Speaker 17: into some of the dark recesses of the abyss that

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Speaker 17: they are because we have lacked answers and substantive answers

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Speaker 17: to some of these dilemmas. Why is it we're fighting

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Speaker 17: harder for we're fighting harder on the borders of Iran

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Speaker 17: right now than we are in Minneapolis.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's a valid question.

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Speaker 17: And if the older generation, such as myself and the

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Speaker 17: boomers that are ahead of me, if we don't have

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Speaker 17: good answers, then at that point it doesn't matter how

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Speaker 17: many algorithms ban the likes of Afflanta as people. Young

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Speaker 17: men are going to go searching for people like that

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Speaker 17: as sources that might come up with aberrant alternative theories

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Speaker 17: like the tail wags the dog. And it's really the

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Speaker 17: Jews and the Israelis that are really in control of

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Speaker 17: the world. Well, when we don't offer them any prevailing

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Speaker 17: theory of any common sense, don't be surprised when they

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Speaker 10: Yeah, especially with this Iran build up. It's, as you say,

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Speaker 10: we hurt. We saw the strike last summer, we were

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Speaker 10: told it was effective. And I really feel the build

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Speaker 10: up with Iran right now has almost happened on the

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Speaker 10: back page of the papers, if anyone even reads papers anymore.

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Speaker 10: I don't feel there's been much discussion of it. You

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Speaker 10: compare with the Iraq War twenty years ago, which I

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Speaker 10: do remember, there was a very long build up to it. Whatever,

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Speaker 10: it was a big mistake, but there was a very

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Speaker 10: strong and aggressive case made for the war on several grounds. Similarly,

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Speaker 10: we had a pretty strong motive for going into Afghanistan.

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Speaker 10: I do feel like a lot of Americans if we

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Speaker 10: were to suddenly be doing a regime change, large scale

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Speaker 10: war with Iran tomorrow one. I think a lot of

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Speaker 10: people who are paying less attention would just be shocked

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Speaker 10: that it's happening in the first place, because they would

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Speaker 10: not have noticed the build up, and they would struggle

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Speaker 10: to articulate why are we doing this now. There was

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Speaker 10: the uprising there, but that at this point was almost

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Speaker 10: a couple months ago.

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Speaker 5: And then there was the nuclear stuff.

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Speaker 10: But it seems like if there was a rational reason

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Speaker 10: to do it would have happened last summer. And it's

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Speaker 10: going to be difficult, I think for if this happens

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Speaker 10: for the administration to sell it, and I hope they've

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Speaker 10: practiced what they would say.

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Speaker 1: Don't disagree with any of that.

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Speaker 17: And I think the key for the Trump administration where

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Speaker 17: Trump understood because if the years he's done business dealings

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Speaker 17: in that part of the world, what he understood is

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Speaker 17: that Muslim and Arab are not necessarily the same thing.

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Speaker 17: And for decades, going back to as long as you

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Speaker 17: two guys have been alive, the so called Palestinian question

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Speaker 17: was the vexine conundrum of Middle East peace and administrations

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Speaker 17: post Reagan, from Bush to Obama to Clinton, all were

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Speaker 17: attempting how much land should we give up, how much

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Speaker 17: autonomy to give the PLO and the Palestinians, on and

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Speaker 17: on and on. And what Trump recognized is there's a

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Speaker 17: lot of leaders in places like Saudi Arabia and Jordan

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Speaker 17: and Egypt that actually could care less about this so

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Speaker 17: called Palestinian question. They're no great fans of Israel, but

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Speaker 17: they're not necessarily fans of forever in perpetual war either,

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Speaker 17: and they'd like to start lining some of their pockets

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Speaker 17: and be wealthy too. And I think he set that

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Speaker 17: tone in Riyad with one of the greatest foreign policy

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Speaker 17: speeches I've seen in my lifetime, maybe the greatest foreign

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Speaker 17: policy speech I've seen by a president post nine to eleven.

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Speaker 17: And I think that's set the tone for his success

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Speaker 17: and why at the end of his first administration we

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Speaker 17: were beginning to see normalization of relations between Israel and

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Speaker 17: Saudi Arabia for example, right now, there's over two thousand

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Speaker 17: Jews working full time in Saudi Arabia. I'd have been

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Speaker 17: unheard of a decade ago. And you can put a

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Speaker 17: lot of that on the success of this administration. And

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Speaker 17: Iran is a seamless garment here. The Saudi's hatterran for

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Speaker 17: different reasons, but every bit as much as the israel do.

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Speaker 17: And so there's a common foe and a common enemy here.

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Speaker 17: And yet despite that, here's the thing that I think

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Speaker 17: is the most troubling to me. Who reigns in place

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Speaker 17: of the Iotolas?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 17: Listen, I don't I would I want these guys to

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Speaker 17: a to assume room temperature post taste. Right, But we're

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Speaker 17: talking about a nation now of tens of millions of people,

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Speaker 17: has its own has two different standing armies. Okay, it

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Speaker 17: has the Revolutionary Guard that's loyal to the Iatolas, its

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Speaker 17: own national army, who so far has not.

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Speaker 1: Stepped in and defended the protesters.

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Speaker 17: So we don't know if there's an Alcissi kind of

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Speaker 17: a figure within that military.

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Speaker 1: We don't even have. You know, again, I'm a little

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Speaker 1: older than you guys.

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Speaker 17: Who's the Boris yeltsin kind of half drunk, but at

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Speaker 17: least somewhat stable, you know, resistance figure. We don't have that,

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Speaker 17: let alone a full statesman like a Lequillessa. Maybe this

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Speaker 17: Resa Pevlavi, who's been living the lap of luxury his

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Speaker 17: entire life in exile. Maybe there's the common Iranian that

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Speaker 17: was getting gunned down in the streets, would just love

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Speaker 17: to have that aristocracy back.

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't pretend to.

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Speaker 17: Know, but Blake, these questions are some of the things

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Speaker 17: that I think you have to answer for the American people.

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Speaker 1: What's the plan of succession here?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 13: Well, and Steve, I love love this tweet and wanted

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Speaker 13: to talk about it with you because it, again, I

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Speaker 13: just felt completely Charlie esque. And one thing that we

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Speaker 13: have the privilege of doing it at Turning Point and

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Speaker 13: our work on campus is we get to meet a

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Speaker 13: lot of these young people. We bring them on the show,

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Speaker 13: and I think, you know, if you could sum up

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Speaker 13: Charlie's kind of the Charlie doctrine, if you will, it was,

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Speaker 13: you know, why are we nation building abroad? We need

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Speaker 13: to be nation building here at home. We have all

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Speaker 13: these kids. To your point about all this immigration. You know,

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Speaker 13: I was just traveling this weekend with my family. I

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Speaker 13: couldn't get over how many foreigners were around. Mostly Hispanics,

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Speaker 13: but there was other nations of I mean, it was

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Speaker 13: like half and half. It was like half Americans half foreigners.

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Speaker 13: And you extrapolate that to the workplace, You extrapolate that

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Speaker 13: to where they learn. You extrapolate that when they go

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Speaker 13: get an idea at the DMV. You extrapolate that across

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Speaker 13: the board. And they feel like they live in a

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Speaker 13: nation that has betrayed them, that is basically let in

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Speaker 13: the third world at their own expense and giving them

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Speaker 13: all kinds of kickbacks, all kinds of privileges and advantages

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Speaker 13: at their expense. And and they're and then and then

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Speaker 13: they look at the news and we're about to bomb

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Speaker 13: Iran again, And I think there is this cognitive dissonance

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Speaker 13: that starts to sort of creep in. And as you

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Speaker 13: point out in your tweet, they start looking for other explanations.

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Speaker 13: They don't care what the constitution says. When they're looking

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Speaker 13: at that kind of of a formula, they don't they

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Speaker 13: stop caring about the George Washington and Thomas Jefferson and

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Speaker 13: the beauty of our founding documents and our founding creeds.

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Speaker 14: They don't care.

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Speaker 13: They're just looking at their life and saying, I can't

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Speaker 13: do it like my parents did it because of these

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Speaker 13: structural issues. Now, you could be of a of a

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Speaker 13: Gen X or or a Boomer generation and say that

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Speaker 13: they're just a bunch of whiners. I'm telling you, a

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Speaker 13: lot of these kids are amazing. They're hard workers, they're

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Speaker 13: they're they're in a different generation would have been considered

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Speaker 13: great patriots. Structurally, though, there are issues in front of

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Speaker 13: them that we have to acknowledge, we have to be

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Speaker 13: honest about. So I loved your tweet and I want

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Speaker 13: to get into this in the next segment, Steve. But

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Speaker 13: then you've got this Austin Tucker Metcalf kid that went

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Speaker 13: into mar A Lago with a gas can and a

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Speaker 13: shotgun and gets himself killed because he's getting He's on

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Speaker 13: some Reddit channels or something on the Epstein Files.

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Speaker 14: We got to make sense of this.

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Speaker 13: We have to make sense of what's happening to our

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Speaker 13: young people in this crazy media landscape that they're all

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Speaker 13: kind of trying to exist in. Listen, these breaks sometimes

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Speaker 13: don't cooperate with me. We've got fifteen seconds, so we

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Speaker 13: have to do a livery, but the floor is going

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Speaker 13: to be all yours, Steve when we get back from break,

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Speaker 13: I promise, because I really want to hear what you

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Speaker 13: So Steve throw up three twenty nine. This is apparently

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Speaker 13: this Austin Tucker metcalf Kid and TMZ got this tweet

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Speaker 13: of his or text message exchanged. He said, I don't

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Speaker 13: know if you've read up on the Epstein files, but

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Speaker 13: evil is real and unmistakable. The best people like you

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Speaker 13: and I can do is use what little influence we

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Speaker 13: have tell other people about what you hear about the

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Speaker 13: Epstein files and what the government is doing about it.

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Speaker 14: Raise awareness.

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Speaker 13: So this is a guy that apparently is like traditionally

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Speaker 13: been a conservative. He's been proud about his Christian identity

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Speaker 13: or his Christian faith, and then he goes intomorrow Lago

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Speaker 13: seemingly to set fire to it, shoot somebody, maybe assassinate

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Speaker 13: the president, thinking back to our conversation in the last segment,

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Speaker 13: What are you thinking about this story, Steve?

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Speaker 17: I think, first of all, it's brilliant to connect these

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Speaker 17: two stories. And I listen, as I get older, I'm

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Speaker 17: getting that age I have to hire my oldest daughter

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Speaker 17: to run some of my social media because I'm at

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Speaker 17: the age now where I.

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Speaker 1: Just don't want to learn anything.

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Speaker 14: I'm good.

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Speaker 1: I'm good, you know.

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Speaker 17: And we all hit that age, right, and so next

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Speaker 17: stop grand Tarino okay and sour looks right okay, and

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Speaker 17: you know, and I think the benefit that I have

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Speaker 17: is I'm launching a nineteen year old son into manhood

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Speaker 17: right now, right just graduated high school, right has two

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Speaker 17: job interviews today. He's got some some real talent when

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Speaker 17: it comes to writing and content creation. But even when

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Speaker 17: your old man's got connections, those are some of the

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Speaker 17: toughest businesses to break into. So you know, he's got

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Speaker 17: to start at the bottom, you know, like mister Miagi.

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Speaker 1: Says, send the flow kind of stuff, you know, And.

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Speaker 17: So that has been helpful to me to hold off

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Speaker 17: some of my y'all are just lazy and soft because

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Speaker 17: I know what home he was raised in and being

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Speaker 17: lazy and soft was not permitted in my home. So

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Speaker 17: I so that helps me to not immediately devolve to

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Speaker 17: that sort of old man yells at cloud default setting,

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Speaker 17: because I now hear the other side of the conversation

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Speaker 17: I hear with him and his peer group. A lot

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Speaker 17: of these are it's from you know, good homes, Christian

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Speaker 17: homes to Christian school homeschool, right, and even they are

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Speaker 17: feeling this tension. Let alone the young men that maybe

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Speaker 17: didn't have a good dad or any dat at all

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Speaker 17: in the home to model anything to them at all.

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Speaker 17: This idea that for the very first time, it is

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Speaker 17: very possible none of what we know as America or

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Speaker 17: the American dream will be there for them at all.

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Speaker 17: And then, at the same token, what occupies their time.

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Speaker 17: I mean, we had law the jungle. When I was

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Speaker 17: growing up. There were just certain things you could not

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Speaker 17: say to another young man for fear that your parents

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Speaker 17: cannot afford the orthodontist, the appointment.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I mean if.

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Speaker 17: You played football growing up as I did, you know

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Speaker 17: what an Oklahoma drill was. And that's where things came

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Speaker 17: correct real quick about the stuff you were maybe running

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Speaker 17: your mouth about in school.

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Speaker 1: Well, now on these devices.

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Speaker 17: I jump on Snapchat, I jump on a Reddit form,

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Speaker 17: and I just say a gamer form, and I just

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Speaker 17: say things I'd never say to somebody else's face because

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Speaker 17: there's no instant recourse. And so the level of venom

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Speaker 17: and toxicity is way higher at the exact same time.

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Speaker 17: And so where does all that masculine energy go. We

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Speaker 17: have a real, real crisis here, you know, to quote

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Speaker 17: Barack Obama's former pastor.

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Speaker 1: America's chickens are coming home to Roosta.

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Speaker 17: We skipped a generation of masculine leadership and modeling in

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Speaker 17: the home, in the pulpit, and in too much of

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Speaker 17: our body, politic and cultural institutions. And so now the

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Speaker 17: repercussions for that are here. And this is why I said,

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Speaker 17: you know, and when I eulogize Charlie and amfest that

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Speaker 17: for the mission, for his mission to reach the young

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Speaker 17: men to be confirmed and successful is going to be

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Speaker 17: determined now by the older men, the boomermen in their

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Speaker 17: third act, the gen x men like me entering your

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Speaker 17: third act. How you finish your race, how you model

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Speaker 17: on the back end, what Charlie was urging these young

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Speaker 17: men to do on the front end, Because we should

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Speaker 17: be the ones now that are living the best portion

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Speaker 17: of our lives, living the blessing of getting married, having children,

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Speaker 17: staying with our wives, making us something of ourselves. We

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Speaker 17: need to model that, finish and finish well otherwise I

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Speaker 17: fear what's going to happen collectively to this generation of

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Speaker 17: young men for sure.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, And on top of that, this is another version,

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Speaker 10: another manifestation of what we actually saw in Minneapolis, where

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Speaker 10: the Alex Prittyes, the Renee Goods, the people who are

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Speaker 10: getting whipped up by that line that this is a

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Speaker 10: you know, a fascist takeover, that there is that we're

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Speaker 10: on the brink of a Nazi dictatorship, and mentally imbalanced

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Speaker 10: people are pushed over the edge by that sort of rhetoric.

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Speaker 10: And that's also what we're seeing with this mar A

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Speaker 10: Lago gunman, that he's getting told, oh, there's a pedophile

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Speaker 10: cabal running America. And there are people running with that

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Speaker 10: narrative who know that it is a severe exaggeration, who

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Speaker 10: know that it is not the real, that's not reality,

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Speaker 10: but they also know it will whip up people like

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Speaker 10: that to go too far, especially because at the same

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Speaker 10: time we have a real case of burgeoning call it

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Speaker 10: assassination culture in America where people are just overtly in

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Speaker 10: favor of talking about murdering politicians, murdering leaders. We have

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Speaker 10: clips like this. In fact, let's play one of them.

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Speaker 10: This is a three point thirty eight.

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Speaker 21: I don't think it would it would take that many

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Speaker 21: of them having something happen before. Maybe they started to

874
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Speaker 21: fall online, is all I'm saying, you know, just like

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Speaker 21: three maybe publicly.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, but this, by the way, that's one of like

877
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Speaker 13: a dozen clips that our team has pulled. And the

878
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Speaker 13: comments are all like, yeah, you're not dreaming big enough.

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Speaker 14: We need to kill more.

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Speaker 13: And what's interesting about this, and Steve, we've got about

881
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Speaker 13: two minutes left here, is that this has been coming

882
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Speaker 13: from the left to the right. I mean, this is

883
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Speaker 13: why we make such a big deal about this, because

884
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Speaker 13: it killed our friend. But this kid seems to fit

885
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Speaker 13: in a different sort of paradigm here. So well, just

886
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Speaker 13: like we.

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Speaker 17: Saw, there was a pattern as I was coming of

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Speaker 17: age politically where postmodernism infested the left and then like

889
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 17: a swarm of locusts, once it had corrupted that entire

890
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 17: crop and consumed it, it then started seeping into some

891
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Speaker 17: of the right as well. We're now seeing this with nihilism.

892
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 17: All right, So nihilism in and of itself is a

893
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Speaker 17: fundamentally demonic ideology, right, but again, I mean most demonic

894
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Speaker 17: ideologies behave in the marketplace of ideas like locusts, and

895
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Speaker 17: locusts are never satiated. They just consume until the crop

896
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Speaker 17: is gone and then just find the new crop. And

897
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Speaker 17: that's kind of how this works out in the ideologically.

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Speaker 17: And so we're now starting to see some of this

899
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Speaker 17: black pilling kind of nihilism emerge within within our side too,

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Speaker 17: particularly amongst a cachet of our young men. And the

901
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Speaker 17: thing that we have to always remember about Marxist ideologies

902
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Speaker 17: is everything they do, say and think, everything is to

903
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Speaker 17: accomplish two goals, more power and more control. And so

904
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Speaker 17: as Blake is pointing out of cynically winking and nodding

905
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,919
Speaker 17: to some of these nihilistic elements, you know, it's okay

906
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Speaker 17: to know how many you know, eggs do a crack

907
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Speaker 17: in order to make an omelet kind of a thing.

908
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Speaker 17: It's just collateral damage. If it gives them the power

909
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Speaker 17: and control they want, they'll go with it. And the

910
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Speaker 17: only thing they want that they won't be for is

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Speaker 17: won't give them the power and control that they want.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I think that's I think that's well said, Steve.

913
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 13: I you know, I really hope and I think this

914
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Speaker 13: is one of Charlie's enduring legacies. I hope it endures,

915
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Speaker 13: which is that you know, if you see the polling,

916
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Speaker 13: a lot of this nihilism seemed to be on the left,

917
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Speaker 13: the assassination culture, this mangionism was coming from the left.

918
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Speaker 13: And meanwhile, young men on the right wanted to get married,

919
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:22,840
Speaker 13: they wanted to have families, they wanted to have a

920
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Speaker 13: good job. I mean, we saw that NBC poll just

921
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Speaker 13: before we lost Charlie, and so I just hope that

922
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Speaker 13: what your way. You know, you're sounding the alarm here.

923
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Speaker 13: Charlie sounded the alarm about this nihilism creeping into the right.

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Speaker 13: We have to fight it. We have to present an alternative.

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Speaker 13: We have to present a faith based alternative. I believe

926
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Speaker 13: as well, and I think your I think your message

927
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Speaker 13: is well made, Steve, that gen X boomers, older millennials,

928
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Speaker 13: we have to present that alternative version of events of

929
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Speaker 13: reality that they you know, and and by the way,

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Speaker 13: we have to we have to make sure they can

931
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Speaker 13: buy homes. I mean, we have to be nation building

932
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Speaker 13: here at home. I hope that message gets through. Steve Days,

933
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Speaker 13: Thank you so much, my friend. It's always a pleasure

934
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Speaker 13: having you. We'll see against you, all right, see you

935
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Speaker 13: in hour two with Oscar Ramirez. We'll be right back.

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Speaker 15: Terrence Beso with your Real America's Voice newsbreak. Thanks for

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Speaker 15: being here with us. The death of the leader of

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Speaker 15: Mexico's how Leisco New generation cartel at the hands of

939
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Speaker 15: Mexican military has set off a deadly and brutal rampage

940
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Speaker 15: from cartel members. The group is said to be Mexico's

941
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Speaker 15: the most powerful drug cartel, and cartel members are blamed

942
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Speaker 15: for burning cars, blocking roads in more than twenty Mexican states,

943
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Speaker 15: and storming at least one airport, setting a plane there

944
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Speaker 15: on blaze. At last check, at least twenty five Mexican

945
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Speaker 15: National Guard members were killed in the operation. The deceased

946
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Speaker 15: cartel leader, known as Elmentcho, was a top target of

947
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Speaker 15: the Mexican and US governments because he was one of

948
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Speaker 15: the top sentinel traffickers into the US. As respondent Oscar

949
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Speaker 15: Ramirez reports, the US provided intelligence support to the Mexican

950
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Speaker 15: government to help find Elmencho.

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Speaker 22: Where in Nemesio o Segira Elemento, the guy that it

952
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Speaker 22: was gunned down had a lot of power and a

953
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Speaker 22: lot of presents. This escalated into the North cities and

954
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Speaker 22: the north borders that connect to the United States of America.

955
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Speaker 22: One of them is the city that I am located

956
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Speaker 22: in in Tijuana, where more than twenty incidents have been noticeable,

957
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Speaker 22: and that the incident is what do I mean by

958
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Speaker 22: incidents burning not also of automobiles, but also at businesses,

959
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Speaker 22: pharmacies and these kind of oxles that they are, you know,

960
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Speaker 22: they can resemble as at seven eleven yesterday I reported

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Speaker 22: on the ground of four vehicles that they were burned.

962
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Speaker 22: One of them was concerning they burned, you know, a

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Speaker 22: pickup truck in front of the border wall that has

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Speaker 22: just steps away from the United States authority.

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Speaker 19: I also said this is a national security issue. Why

966
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Speaker 19: because these cartel members they burned the vehicle in front

967
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Speaker 19: of the border wall, but they have cameras of the

968
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Speaker 19: United States government, so they want to let the United

969
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Speaker 19: States government know that they're actually doing this on the

970
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Speaker 19: purpose to destabilize, unstabilize the security of the citizens of Mexico.

971
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Speaker 19: And to send a great message to the United States

972
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Speaker 19: authorities that they still have presence on these communities, in

973
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Speaker 19: these neighborhoods. Under the Biddom administration, the cartail grew two

974
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Speaker 19: times bigger, two times stronger on territory, on land, financially,

975
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Speaker 19: and in technology. And we're seeing the result of that

976
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Speaker 19: because of the negligence of the Biden administration who whatever

977
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Speaker 19: thought in in Tijuana that the cartel kalis Coommute Generation

978
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Speaker 19: had this enormous presence. You know, a lot of these

979
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Speaker 19: studies and the intelligence of the Intelligence Department of Mexico,

980
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Speaker 19: they thought that the Sina Looa cartel was the one

981
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Speaker 19: that it was in charge of the state of Baja California.

982
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Speaker 19: But now we know that it's completely the contrast and

983
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Speaker 19: the opposite. And this is because of the negligence of

984
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Speaker 19: the Biden administration that provided this cartel to have.

985
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Speaker 3: This enormous power.

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Speaker 19: You can see it actually on their technology and their weaponry,

987
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Speaker 19: and they have a lot of presence inside of the

988
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Speaker 19: United States of America. This is a nation little security

989
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 19: issue on both sides of the out Inside of the

990
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Speaker 19: United States of America, they need to start securing their

991
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Speaker 19: borders and being on the lookout for drone attacks and

992
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 19: possibly you know, some kind of a not of an attack,

993
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:15,880
Speaker 19: but an approach for the organized from ben Bartelta and

994
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Speaker 19: ne're the border and this a national security issue also

995
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Speaker 19: at the end of the day for Mexic, well, they

996
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:23,760
Speaker 19: need to provide security for Mexican citizens and for American

997
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 19: tours that they're located on the other side.

998
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Speaker 15: We'll have much more on the developing situation in Mexico

999
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Speaker 15: throughout the day here on Real America's Voice. In the meantime,

1000
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Speaker 15: the weather here in the northeast of the United States

1001
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Speaker 15: turning out to be a big story as well. This

1002
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Speaker 15: week New York, New York, all the way north to

1003
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Speaker 15: Massachusetts dealing with blizzard conditions. This is video out of

1004
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Speaker 15: New York.

1005
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Speaker 3: Look at this.

1006
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Speaker 15: Let's take this full screen, guys, if we can. The

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Speaker 15: National Weather Service projecting up to two feet of snow

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Speaker 15: in some areas. More than five hundred thousand customers are

1009
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Speaker 15: dealing with power outages. That number, by the way, includes

1010
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Speaker 15: more than two hundred and twelve thousand people in Massachusetts

1011
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Speaker 15: and one hundred and twenty eight thousand in New Jersey.

1012
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Speaker 15: Look at the snow that continues to fall. Weather Nation

1013
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Speaker 15: Mediorologist Patrick Crawford has the very.

1014
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Speaker 23: Latest Weather Nation metiorologist Patrick Crawford here tracking the Northeastern

1015
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Speaker 23: impacting the northeastern United States. A look from earlier on Monday,

1016
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Speaker 23: as some of the thunder snow that was happening out

1017
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 23: in New York City, and then we get out into

1018
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Speaker 23: depth forward New Jersey tracking that intense snow.

1019
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 5: Look at how high that snow was when it came.

1020
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Speaker 23: To the accumulation on some of those vehicles. We've seen

1021
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 23: feet of accumulation that we've been tracking across these areas.

1022
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 23: Those numbers, they have been huge. And then on top

1023
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 23: of the heavy snow, there's been so much wind that's

1024
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 23: a northeaster. That is the setup that we've been dealing with.

1025
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Speaker 23: So we have widespread power outages that have been happening

1026
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 23: all along the Atlantic seaboard, blizzard warnings continuing all the

1027
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 23: way into this afternoon and evening from the coast of

1028
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Speaker 23: Maine all the way down into southern Delaware. You can

1029
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 23: see that forecast showing the snow lingering all the way

1030
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Speaker 23: through the Monday, and as at Low continues to push east,

1031
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:05,319
Speaker 23: all the impacts will start to diminish. That's the very

1032
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 23: latest from here at Weather Nation.

1033
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:23,720
Speaker 5: All right, welcome back to Charlie Kirkshaw.

1034
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Speaker 13: We are joined by Oscar Ramirez. He's a real America's

1035
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Speaker 13: Voice border correspondent, and with everything that happened over the

1036
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Speaker 13: weekend with Elmencho, we wanted to have on the ground reporting.

1037
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Speaker 14: So Oscar, welcome to the show.

1038
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:41,879
Speaker 13: Tell us where are you or if you can tell

1039
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 13: us roundabouts where you are and where is some of

1040
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 13: the worst violence happening and is it still happening.

1041
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 19: Well after the assassination and the execution of a Namessio

1042
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 19: Sea Elemento, the violence started escalating into parts in the

1043
00:52:56,719 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 19: tourist areas and the part of and Escale to the

1044
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 19: part that they have enormous control, that is Meetcho Kan

1045
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Speaker 19: in the parts of the Gerrero and also in Jalisco.

1046
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:07,800
Speaker 19: But this perplex and it just caused a domino effect

1047
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Speaker 19: and it started happening in the north borders, in cities

1048
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Speaker 19: like the one other we are located.

1049
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 5: What you know, they started doing.

1050
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Speaker 19: Narco blockades, burning cars, burning businesses to send a message

1051
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Speaker 19: to the government and to tell them that we have

1052
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 19: presence on these particular neighborhoods or tourists areas and that

1053
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 19: we are going to terrorize the citizens and to let

1054
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Speaker 19: them know that they are critically hurt because the head

1055
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 19: of the snake was completely eliminated. At this particular moment,

1056
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Speaker 19: they started doing this in the part of the Ijuana,

1057
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 19: you know, burning cars, burning businesses. Until now yesterday we

1058
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Speaker 19: were reporting on the ground more than twenty two incidents happen. Well,

1059
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Speaker 19: it means incidents between vehicles and also businesses that they

1060
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Speaker 19: were burned. Sending a message strongly to the government of

1061
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:52,320
Speaker 19: Mexico to tell them we have a lot of presence

1062
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Speaker 19: on these particular estates in the whole country and the

1063
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Speaker 19: whole territory. Now a thing that is extremely important. Just

1064
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 19: just today breaking news. The head of the military and

1065
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:04,919
Speaker 19: the head of Department of Defense in Mexico just made

1066
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Speaker 19: out a statement and an interview said that this was

1067
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Speaker 19: a clear collaboration with the United States of America in

1068
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Speaker 19: regards to the United States providing the intelligence to do

1069
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Speaker 19: the execution by the federal government off Nemesio O Segera

1070
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Speaker 19: and Mencho. The violence right now, it is, it was

1071
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:24,280
Speaker 19: increasing last night. It's here in the city of Iguana

1072
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Speaker 19: that is connected to San Diego. There was still burning

1073
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Speaker 19: of vehicles continuously in several areas, but until now schools

1074
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Speaker 19: have been off limits. Now they closed the schools, They

1075
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Speaker 19: closed the educational systems of elementary junior high schools, high schools,

1076
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Speaker 19: and colleges. Businesses are closed for security reasons. Off the citizens.

1077
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Speaker 19: There has been multiple threats on social media groups by

1078
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Speaker 19: you know these uh you know, particularly pages that they

1079
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Speaker 19: are incohoods with the organized crime telling the population that

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Speaker 19: they're going to start shooting civilians after ten o'clock at night.

1081
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Speaker 19: Is they still walking? It is a huge national security threat.

1082
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Speaker 19: I you know, I did a video on a report

1083
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Speaker 19: on a vehicle that it was burned just steps away

1084
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Speaker 19: from the border, from the border wall. This tells you

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Speaker 19: the level of audacity of the cartel. And they burned

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Speaker 19: that vehicle in front of a post on the territory

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Speaker 19: in the American torritory. This post that it has a

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Speaker 19: huge camera from the US customs. That basically tells you

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Speaker 19: that they did it on purpose. Yes, to tell the

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Speaker 19: American government, we know that you provided the information for

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Speaker 19: our leader to be executed. So on this moment, the

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Speaker 19: federal government has release statements that they will provide the

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Speaker 19: security that it needs to be provided for tourists and

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Speaker 19: also deployment of more military to the whole content, to

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Speaker 19: the whole country of Mexico.

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Speaker 13: I have a bunch of questions here as far as

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Speaker 13: we're the cj GN cartel, the cartel Helicco New Generation,

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Speaker 13: how where does it rank in terms of the most violent,

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Speaker 13: most powerful cartels in Mexico, And that.

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Speaker 14: Is the number one right now.

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Speaker 19: And the Meso Sagea Elemento was one of the most

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Speaker 19: violent ones and atrocious ones that clearly he sent a

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Speaker 19: message to the population into the world of decapitations as

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Speaker 19: membering bodies. And he's the one that is basically pointed

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Speaker 19: out to the multiple hundreds of thousands of mask priders

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Speaker 19: that they have been found in our country, of Mexical

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Speaker 19: missing people, extraction of organs, you know, in all this

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Speaker 19: atrocious acts towards women in the country.

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Speaker 5: Okay, go ahead, So Oscar, I think that's really baffling me.

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Speaker 10: So twenty five members of the National Guard killed obvious

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Speaker 10: mayhem throughout the country. I'm reading the La Times this morning.

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Speaker 10: Mexican President Claude Steinbaum insists country is at peace and

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Speaker 10: remains calm after what's going on.

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Speaker 5: What's her attitude towards all of this.

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Speaker 10: It seems like she's She strikes a very strange tone

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Speaker 10: with her remarks, and I guess the follow up is,

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Speaker 10: what's next? Is this a spasm of violence or is

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Speaker 10: this going to turn into a wider I don't know

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Speaker 10: what else to say besides war.

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Speaker 19: Well, the Mexican people that we have common sense, and

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Speaker 19: there's millions of us. We know who perpetrated and who

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Speaker 19: did this mission, and who initiated this mission, and it

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Speaker 19: was the American intelligence. If it wasn't for the Trump administration,

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Speaker 19: this that just happened would have been done. And all

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Speaker 19: of this that has happened happening in the country of Mexico,

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Speaker 19: the dismantling laboratories, the extraction of criminal leaders and leaders

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Speaker 19: of cartels and being extracted to the United States of America,

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Speaker 19: you know, the execution of Nemesio Sageta and Manchel, all

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Speaker 19: of this wouldn't be happening now. The Mexican president she

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Speaker 19: has an agenda and is a leftist, socialist agenda, and

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Speaker 19: she needs to pander through her audience to say we

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Speaker 19: are not letting the ging go, We're not letting the

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Speaker 19: white man to come and invade and intervene in our country.

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Speaker 19: But we are collaborating, so and so and quote unquote,

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Speaker 19: we're collaborating with the American government for them to provide

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Speaker 19: information and for us to execute That is how she's

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Speaker 19: maneuvering this. And of course she's saying that this all

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Speaker 19: this mission was executed by the federal government. But now

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Speaker 19: she's obligated to say that the American government are providing

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Speaker 19: the information. This is history, guys, nobody in history. And

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Speaker 19: do you note States of America has had the more

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Speaker 19: extraction of information that the Trump administration has right now?

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Speaker 19: And why do I say that they have it Chappou's mind,

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Speaker 19: They have it Mayosa Bada, they had Nico Lasma Duro,

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Speaker 19: all the extraction of information of how Mexico works and

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00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 19: how corrupt all these dirty politicians that they're located and

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Speaker 19: the Senate in Congress and Mexico. So the Trump administration

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Speaker 19: basically knows the ins and outs of the government and

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Speaker 19: they need to bend a knee. When the Trump administration

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Speaker 19: says we're going in as we're going in.

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Speaker 14: Yeah.

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Speaker 13: So my question is, Oscar is does this signal a

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Speaker 13: change of policy in Mexico. Is this is this a

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Speaker 13: turning point or is Claude Scheinbaum doing this kicking and

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Speaker 13: screaming and this.

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Speaker 14: Is kind of going to be a one and done.

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Speaker 14: What's your prediction, Well.

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Speaker 19: The Mexican people are going to demand more now if

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Speaker 19: they have the capacity to execute in Themesico Sageda a meno,

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Speaker 19: Why you're not going through several states and controlling these

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Speaker 19: days that they're biling the and critically controlled by the

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Speaker 19: organized crime in the cart So basically, what the pressure

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Speaker 19: of the American government it is doing right now to

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Speaker 19: Mexico is for the Mexican people to man more from

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Speaker 19: the Mexican government for them to execute this mission. If

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Speaker 19: you were precise and if you you know, we lost

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Speaker 19: some good ones, we lost some military men on this mission.

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Speaker 19: But if you went over there and you executed the mission,

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Speaker 19: why you're not doing that on every state. So it's

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Speaker 19: going to have an effect on the Senators on the opposition,

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Speaker 19: and the Conservatives, on the Christians, on the Christian you

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Speaker 19: know senators and Christian you know congressmen that they are

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Speaker 19: in our country to demand more from the opposition.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, So, Oscar, that's my question.

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Speaker 13: Because the cartel is so interwoven with just basic businesses

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Speaker 13: and the hotels, and there's this it's hard to draw

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Speaker 13: a line between official government business and cartels, right, and

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Speaker 13: will the people demand this? Will the you know, is

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Speaker 13: there popular support for more action against the cartels? And

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Speaker 13: will is there enough will within the official government structure

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Speaker 13: of Mexico.

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Speaker 19: Absolutely? Absolutely, and it is happening right now. And also

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Speaker 19: what the Trump administration has done is that the hit

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Speaker 19: they have given the courage to senators on the opposition

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Speaker 19: and on the right of Mexico to go and basically

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Speaker 19: on Congress and on the Senate and expose the left

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Speaker 19: wing political party and say you're corrupt, you're involved with

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Speaker 19: the organized crime, the Caratel. You know, one of the

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Speaker 19: things that got viciously exposed is how this criminal organization

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Speaker 19: had so much control over states and how they have

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Speaker 19: the audacity to terrorize the citizens and they're still doing

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Speaker 19: it until this point. So it's basically exposing the you

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Speaker 19: know the weaknesses of our government, and the Mexican people

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Speaker 19: know that right now at this moment.

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Speaker 13: So last twenty seconds here, Oscar, do you predict more

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Speaker 13: violence in the days and weeks to come?

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Speaker 19: I will not recommend American citizens to travel right now

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Speaker 19: to several spots and several tourisponts.

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Speaker 14: You know it is. It's kind of agitated and led.

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Speaker 19: Just sink in for the next couple of days over

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Speaker 19: the federal government to have more control over really rule

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Speaker 19: and difficult in tough neighborhoods. I believe that it's going

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Speaker 19: to escalate a little bit. Inner wars are going to

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Speaker 19: happen unless see who takes you of this criminal organization,

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Speaker 19: that that is going to be the next step of

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Speaker 19: how they're going to fight among each other for territory.

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Speaker 13: Oscar Ramirez Ravs Border correspondent in Mexico right now. Thank

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Speaker 13: you so much, Oscar, appreciate it. Well, have you back

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Speaker 10: I just want to close the book on the on

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Speaker 10: the cartel thing. What was so insane is just the

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Speaker 10: visual of literal cartel members. They're standing, They're wearing uniforms

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Speaker 10: with their armored car cars.

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Speaker 5: They have armored.

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Speaker 10: Cars, armed via rocket launcher, heavy heavy machinery, heavy weaponry,

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Speaker 10: And all I can think is, this is a country

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Speaker 10: that borders of the United States, and we've had thirty

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Speaker 10: years plus of lots of adventures in the Middle East

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Speaker 10: where we're often chasing people armed up just like that.

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Speaker 5: But they're on at least the other side of the planet.

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Speaker 10: They can't send rocket launchers super easily to the United States, but.

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Speaker 5: You know who can the cartels. And we see with.

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Speaker 10: Them launching this, for lack of a better term, this

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Speaker 10: insurgency where they're taking over huge chunks of central Mexico

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Speaker 10: in demonstration of their leader being killed, killing dozens of

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Speaker 10: Mexican National Guard, it just almost it actually strikes me

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Speaker 10: as insane that we've had so many wars on the

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Speaker 10: other side of the planet and yet we haven't just said, Okay,

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Speaker 10: actually we're going to drone strike anyone, like every armored

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Speaker 10: vehicle that belongs to a cartel, blow it up.

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Speaker 5: It's just gonna get totally agree period.

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Speaker 14: We're trying to play nice.

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Speaker 10: When Mexico wants to help us, that's great, that's but

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Speaker 10: if they don't want to help us, we're going to

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Speaker 10: do it anyway, because it's not acceptable for there to

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Speaker 10: be a totally agree gangster actor in a neighboring country

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Speaker 10: that has armored personnel carriers.

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Speaker 13: Totally agree, all right, well said needed to be said so,

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Speaker 13: and Charlie, by the way, totally agreed with that.

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Speaker 14: It's like, if we're gonna use military force.

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Speaker 13: That's the one place we should yes, all right, here,

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Speaker 13: we I got to play a couple of clips for you.

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Speaker 14: Three thirty nine.

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Speaker 1: Young black kids growing up in the Bronx who don't

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Speaker 1: even know what the word a computer is. They don't know,

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Speaker 1: they don't know these things.

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Speaker 14: Three forty six.

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Speaker 24: And the other thing we should do is you should

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Speaker 24: challenge these students. We should challenge students in these schools

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Speaker 24: to have advanced placement programs in these schools. We have

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Speaker 24: this notion that somehow, if you're poor, you cannot do it.

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Speaker 24: Poor kids are just as bright and just as talent

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Speaker 24: as white kids.

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Speaker 14: And two fifty the new one.

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Speaker 1: I'm not you know, I'm not trying to impress you.

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Speaker 5: I'm just trying to impress upon you.

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Speaker 3: I'm like you, I'm.

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Speaker 14: No better than you.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 5: I'm a nine sixty SAT guy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, and.

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Speaker 25: I'm not trying to offend anyone, you know, trying to

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Speaker 25: act all there.

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Speaker 5: If you got nine forty.

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Speaker 25: But literally a nine sixty SAT guy, I cannot you

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Speaker 25: you've never seen me read a speech, because I cannot

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Speaker 25: read a speech.

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Speaker 14: All right.

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Speaker 13: So Gavin Newsom's trying to buddy up to the black

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Speaker 13: community by saying I'm dumb too.

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Speaker 14: I can't I can't read. This is okay.

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Speaker 13: This man's gonna run for president in twenty twenty eight,

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Speaker 13: and I want them to run this this.

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Speaker 14: Moment on repeat on the ad.

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Speaker 13: This is the bigotry of low expectations in living color.

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Speaker 13: I've never seen such a clear example of that other

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Speaker 13: than the two other.

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Speaker 14: Clips that I played before.

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Speaker 5: I mean, there's so many more.

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Speaker 10: I remember Hillary Clinton when she was running for president,

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Speaker 10: she did an appearance in New York and then she

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Speaker 10: showed up, No, it's the ones she showed up and

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Speaker 10: she said she was on CPT and then they said

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Speaker 10: it was cautious politician time. But that's obviously it's like,

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Speaker 10: it's very wild. And all I can think of is,

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Speaker 10: this is a real study from twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 5: Do you know about this? The Yale study.

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Speaker 10: Yale did a study of how like the vocabulary that

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Speaker 10: white liberals use and what they found is, Yeah, white liberals,

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Speaker 10: when they're talking to black people, they will actually deliberately

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Speaker 10: down the code switch their vocabulary. They will basically act

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Speaker 10: like they're talking to children, and they'll get an accent

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Speaker 10: and they notice that white conservatives did not do this,

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Speaker 10: They just did not change.

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Speaker 13: Nope, as we expect the same out of everybody. It

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Speaker 13: is literally the most racist comment in the world. And

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Speaker 13: then you add on top of all of this that

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Speaker 13: they don't think black people are smart enough.

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Speaker 14: To get id.

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Speaker 13: It is quite literally the most racist crap that you

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Speaker 13: will ever hear coming out of the mouths of Democrats.

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Speaker 13: And they're pandering to them to win their votes by

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Speaker 13: telling them they're dumb, and yet most of them will

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Speaker 13: still vote for Democrats, and that's the baffling part of

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Speaker 13: all of this. Here's Charlie reflecting on his time with

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Speaker 13: Gavin Newsom. Remember Charlie went on Gavin Newsom's podcast, was

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Speaker 13: the first guest made Lots of News three fifty three.

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Speaker 16: He is he is the fakest person I think I've

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Speaker 16: ever met in my entire life. So synthetic and honestly

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Speaker 16: that's very dangerous, like incredibly dangerous. Like he's the type

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Speaker 16: of person that could just like scare you, like, oh yeah,

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Speaker 16: I voted for Trump and just like pass a lie

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Speaker 16: detector test. That is very very dangt you know, just

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Speaker 16: compolse stone cold, just like no inhibitions whatsoever when it

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Speaker 16: comes to deceit or lying or misleading.

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Speaker 14: So blake.

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Speaker 13: You and I were with Charlie when he went to

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Speaker 13: that podcast when you interview, or when he went on

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Speaker 13: Gavin Newsom's podcast, and I'll never forget. We were driving

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Speaker 13: away and I go, what was your impression? He goes, Man,

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Speaker 13: that guy wants to be president.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he always has.

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Speaker 10: It's really it's really glaring, and it's it's really disturbing

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Speaker 10: because I've got to say, as much as we make

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Speaker 10: fun of him here, as much as we made fun

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Speaker 10: of and an other time, he deserves it you and

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Speaker 10: he deserves it. I don't think you can escape that

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Speaker 10: feeling like it could happen. This is this is the

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Speaker 10: dark future of America. Is one hundred percent that Gavin

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Speaker 10: Newsom could run, be slick enough, have the right looks,

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Speaker 10: say the right things, and everyone will just sort of

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Speaker 10: get behind it. It's like he's the politician utterly without qualities.

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Speaker 10: He hasn't been a great gulf or of his state

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Speaker 10: that by any objective measure, it's been a catastrophe. He

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Speaker 10: has big he has big headline disasters like burning down

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Speaker 10: a big chunk of Los Angeles and then he has

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Speaker 10: the data driven disasters. Businesses leave, people leave. His state

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Speaker 10: is entirely dependent on endless immigration inflow to from foreign

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Speaker 10: completely from foreign countries to not completely implode. And they're

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Speaker 10: having you know, they're driving out every billionaire because they

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Speaker 10: have this wealth confiscations. Says he's going to veto that.

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Speaker 10: But yeah, but they can't. Well that was I think

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Speaker 10: it's a vote amendment. I don't think he can block it.

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Speaker 10: If they's he's promised to veto it, we'll.

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Speaker 5: See what he does.

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Speaker 10: But on top and on top of that, they have

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Speaker 10: every other problem in the world, and so yeah.

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Speaker 5: It's well he could win.

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Speaker 14: Well, it's interesting.

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Speaker 13: I got asked to write a piece and I forgot

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Speaker 13: to tweet it out, actually, but I got asked to

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Speaker 13: write a piece for the California Post, which is like

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Speaker 13: the New York Post, but for the West coast. It

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Speaker 13: was about Charlie what he thought about California. And Charlie

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Speaker 13: loved California, loved how.

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Speaker 14: Beautiful it was.

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Speaker 13: But he would always when you lay in there, he goes, man,

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Speaker 13: what a beautiful state. It's a shame what they've done

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Speaker 13: to it. Every time, that was his first first thought,

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Speaker 13: his first comment. And you know, Gavin Newsom is just

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Speaker 13: the living embodiment of what incompetent leadership looks like.

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Speaker 10: The Democrat plan in twenty twenty eight is to run

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Speaker 10: on making America California. And it's it's going to be

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Speaker 10: very shameful if we can't beat that.

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Speaker 13: Pitch Dennis Prager on his new book. You are not

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Speaker 13: going to want to miss this. Dennis Prager.

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Speaker 15: Next, the United States.

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Speaker 9: It's been an incredible year for America. The Dow hitting

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Speaker 9: record highs, the border secured, cartels in shambles, dictators captured,

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Speaker 9: wars brought to an end.

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Speaker 1: America is fast, and the United.

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Speaker 9: States respected again around the world. Now, Donald J. Trump

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Speaker 9: delivers his next State of the Union address, laying out

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Speaker 9: the victories and the bold vision for what comes next.

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Speaker 2: The American dream is surging, bigger and better than ever before.

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Speaker 9: America now has a strong president, unlike the other guy.

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Speaker 1: For we're saying the plant from the crime of crisis?

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Speaker 18: Are you stipid?

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Speaker 9: Live coverage starts this Tuesday at seven pm Eastern. Don't

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Speaker 9: miss the Real State of the Union on Real America's Voice.

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Speaker 2: It will be like nothing that has ever been seen before.

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Speaker 15: Terrence Bates with your Real America's Voice news break here.

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Speaker 15: President Trump getting ready for a State of the Union

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Speaker 15: addressed tomorrow. He's also continuing to secure the border and

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Speaker 15: crack down on illegal immigration. Earlier this morning, the President

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Speaker 15: hosting Angel Families at the White House. Those are American

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Speaker 15: families who have lost loved ones to criminals who were

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Speaker 15: in the United States illegally.

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Speaker 20: Thank you, sir, put in America first and putting these

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Speaker 20: angel families first and letting everybody know their stories because

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Speaker 20: we matter.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, sir.

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Speaker 20: My brother, Rocky Jones, was murdered by a criminal legal alien.

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Speaker 20: He was simply at the wrong place at the wrong time.

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Speaker 20: This man was arrested, released, and within twenty four hours

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Speaker 20: he went on a shooting spree in Central Californian. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 20: my brother was in the wrong place at the wrong time.

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Speaker 20: This man shot my brother eight times at point blank range.

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Speaker 20: I pray that no other family has to go through that,

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Speaker 20: and fortunately they will.

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Speaker 15: Today's event was meant to recognize twenty two year old

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Speaker 15: Georgia nursing student Lake and Riley, who was brutally murdered

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Speaker 15: by a Venezuelan illegal alien, which while she was out

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Speaker 15: for a jog. The President also signed a proclamation designating

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Speaker 15: Angel Family Day. That's a quick check of your headlines.

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Speaker 26: I'm Terrence Bates, Democracy Lives in Light The Charlie Kirk Show.

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Speaker 13: All right, welcome back, everybody. I am so excited for

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Speaker 13: our next guest. He's a man that needs no introduction

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Speaker 13: to this audience, but I will say it anyways. Dennis

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Speaker 13: Prager is one of the most respected and influential thinkers, writers,

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Speaker 13: and speakers in America. He's a nationally syndicated talk show host.

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Speaker 13: He is the founder of Prager University, and is a

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Speaker 13: New York Times bestselling author of nine books.

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Speaker 5: And he's a man who's been through a lot.

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Speaker 13: But most importantly to this audience, as you all know,

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Speaker 13: he was a dear friend and mentor to Charlie Kirk.

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Speaker 13: And Dennis, welcome back to The Charlie Kirk Show. It

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Speaker 13: is an indescribable honor to have you.

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Speaker 3: Oh I, I'm delighted to be with you. I'm delighted

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Speaker 3: to be with you because you're you, because it's TPUSA,

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Speaker 3: and because I'm delighted to be able to speak. Yes,

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Speaker 3: be perfectly honest. For those who don't know I had

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Speaker 3: a catastrophic fall in my home on November twelfth of

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty four, which left me paralyzed from the shoulders

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Speaker 3: down and not breathing without a ventilator and not speaking.

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Speaker 3: And here I am having an interview with you, so

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Speaker 3: you can imagine for all those reasons. And finally, I

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Speaker 3: just might note when I watched the funeral service and

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Speaker 3: had other memorial services for Charlie, and I heard all

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Speaker 3: these people describe I have themselves as Charlie's closest friends.

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Speaker 3: I I thought it was a great credit to Charlie.

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Speaker 3: Like kids who think, you know, they have five kids,

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Speaker 3: and each one thinks that they are the parent's favorite.

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Speaker 3: The parents did a good job. Charlie did a good job.

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Speaker 3: But I would just like to remind everybody, or maybe

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Speaker 3: they didn't even know it, so remind might not be

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Speaker 3: the actual verb. And that is that his last book

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Speaker 3: on Shabbat, on taking a day in the Name of

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Speaker 3: God up there to stop in the name of God

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Speaker 3: by honoring the Sabbath will transform your life, was dedicated

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Speaker 3: to me. Charlie wrote autiful dedication. Charlie called me, I

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Speaker 3: would say almost every week for at least five or

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Speaker 3: eight years, and he he would call after listening to

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Speaker 3: another tape of mine on the Torah, the first five

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Speaker 3: books of the Bible with questions, and the whole idea

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Speaker 3: of Shabbat came from our interactions. So you know, I'm

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Speaker 3: supposed to promote my book, but here I am promoting

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Speaker 3: Charlie's book.

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Speaker 13: Well, it's a beautiful, beautiful testament to your guys's friendship.

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Speaker 14: You shared a deep, deep bond and I and.

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Speaker 13: We are going to get to your book, which is

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Speaker 13: titled If there Is No God? The battle over who

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Speaker 13: defines good and evil? And the fact that you're even

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Speaker 13: coming out with a book, Dennis, is a miracle and

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Speaker 13: a testament to your character and your fortitude and your

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Speaker 13: strength of will. But I want to read Erica Kirk's.

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Speaker 14: Endorsement of the book.

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Speaker 13: I think it's just so beautiful and it's a bit long,

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Speaker 13: but I'm going to do it. He says, this book

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Speaker 13: is a treasure to me. Dennis was more than a

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Speaker 13: mentor to my husband, Charlie. He was a dear friend

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Speaker 13: and one of the few voices who played a role

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Speaker 13: in encouraging Charlie's moral courage. The two of them shared

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Speaker 13: a rare bond, blessed by countless conversations about faith, morality,

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Speaker 13: and what it means to live with conviction in a

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Speaker 13: world that has lost its compass. Reading if there is

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Speaker 13: no God feels like sitting at the table with both

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Speaker 13: of them again. It carries forward the very message that

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Speaker 13: both Dennis and Charlie lived and Charlie died believing that

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Speaker 13: without God there can be no good and without truth

1514
01:18:02,920 --> 01:18:04,519
Speaker 13: there can be no freedom.

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Speaker 14: She's beautiful.

1516
01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:11,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, it meant the great deal to me that she

1517
01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:16,720
Speaker 3: would write such a thing in the midst of her

1518
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:24,200
Speaker 3: grief and her battling people who want to destroy TPUSA.

1519
01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:31,280
Speaker 3: I have never encountered something like this effort to hurt

1520
01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:40,920
Speaker 3: a beautiful institution from people who supposedly are on our side.

1521
01:18:41,160 --> 01:18:45,400
Speaker 3: It's I don't know if it's unprecedented, but I can't

1522
01:18:45,439 --> 01:18:46,520
Speaker 3: think of a precedent.

1523
01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:51,719
Speaker 13: Yeah, well, you know, I always tell people what God

1524
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:55,400
Speaker 13: is unleashed, man cannot stop, and so we walk in

1525
01:18:55,479 --> 01:18:59,120
Speaker 13: great faith and great courage. And the movement is expanding,

1526
01:18:59,160 --> 01:19:02,280
Speaker 13: it's growing. Charlie legacy looms large. I can tell you

1527
01:19:02,280 --> 01:19:05,439
Speaker 13: here at HQ, but at all the chapters dentists that

1528
01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:08,439
Speaker 13: are exploding it's not just you know, we're opening fifty

1529
01:19:08,479 --> 01:19:10,840
Speaker 13: new chapters a day, but it's they're not just two

1530
01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:14,759
Speaker 13: or three kids. We're talking ten, fifteen, twenty fifty kids,

1531
01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:17,599
Speaker 13: one hundred kids. Some of these chapters are thousands of students,

1532
01:19:17,680 --> 01:19:21,400
Speaker 13: large now because of the life and the legacy that Charlie.

1533
01:19:21,200 --> 01:19:23,960
Speaker 5: Left behind, and you are a huge part of that.

1534
01:19:24,080 --> 01:19:24,400
Speaker 14: Dennis.

1535
01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:28,120
Speaker 13: And one of your most famous questions, which relates to

1536
01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:33,800
Speaker 13: your book, of course, is the it's a famous one

1537
01:19:33,280 --> 01:19:38,559
Speaker 13: from your days on the radio. If your beloved dog

1538
01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:42,280
Speaker 13: and a stranger drowning, who do you say first? This

1539
01:19:42,400 --> 01:19:46,880
Speaker 13: became an incredibly famous question. It's also sort of a

1540
01:19:46,920 --> 01:19:49,560
Speaker 13: starting point for this book. Please explain.

1541
01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:57,280
Speaker 3: That's right. I've actually been asking this question for fifty years.

1542
01:19:58,840 --> 01:20:05,240
Speaker 3: Fifty years, and the results have been the same. Throughout

1543
01:20:05,280 --> 01:20:10,800
Speaker 3: those fifty years. I would ask high school students or

1544
01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:16,920
Speaker 3: college students if they loved their dogs, which everybody who

1545
01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:22,040
Speaker 3: has one does, and a stranger were drowning and their

1546
01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:25,479
Speaker 3: dog were drowning, But would they try to say first.

1547
01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:28,719
Speaker 3: I know that they would all love to save both

1548
01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:31,439
Speaker 3: and so on, but they have to try to save

1549
01:20:31,520 --> 01:20:40,679
Speaker 3: one first. And virtually every instance cut across economic racial

1550
01:20:41,400 --> 01:20:47,519
Speaker 3: religious lines. In virtually every instance, one third of the

1551
01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:52,719
Speaker 3: group said they would save the stranger, one third said

1552
01:20:52,760 --> 01:20:56,200
Speaker 3: the dog, and one third didn't know what they would do.

1553
01:20:57,320 --> 01:21:01,960
Speaker 3: Two thirds of Americans over half a second Injurgue, I

1554
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:05,760
Speaker 3: would not save, I would not save. I would not

1555
01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:09,719
Speaker 3: say that they would save the stranger. And that led

1556
01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:18,960
Speaker 3: me to the whole supposition of the book that what

1557
01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:28,120
Speaker 3: they were doing is substituting emotions for values. I love

1558
01:21:28,320 --> 01:21:33,759
Speaker 3: my dog is an emotion. Humans are created in God's image,

1559
01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:39,360
Speaker 3: is of value. That's why I would save a stranger

1560
01:21:39,479 --> 01:21:45,360
Speaker 3: before my beloved dogs. My wife really loves our dogs.

1561
01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:50,479
Speaker 3: I only love them, she really loves them, and she

1562
01:21:50,600 --> 01:21:57,479
Speaker 3: would save a stranger first because she believes that people

1563
01:21:57,520 --> 01:22:01,160
Speaker 3: are created in God's image. Animals are not.

1564
01:22:04,240 --> 01:22:06,920
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's I really want to drive home for anyone

1565
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:10,080
Speaker 10: who is a more recent listener, just and or just

1566
01:22:10,120 --> 01:22:14,120
Speaker 10: didn't know how important your moral guidance was to Charlie

1567
01:22:14,120 --> 01:22:17,519
Speaker 10: when he would think about moral questions Andrew, you know,

1568
01:22:17,680 --> 01:22:18,920
Speaker 10: he would mention this in private.

1569
01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:21,679
Speaker 5: You know, Dennis says this. This is how Dennis used

1570
01:22:21,680 --> 01:22:22,120
Speaker 5: this problem.

1571
01:22:22,200 --> 01:22:25,240
Speaker 10: He really looked up to you for moral reasoning like that,

1572
01:22:25,320 --> 01:22:26,880
Speaker 10: and for framing things.

1573
01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:28,280
Speaker 5: So many things that you would.

1574
01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:32,000
Speaker 10: Say and we would hear him repeat on campuses because

1575
01:22:32,640 --> 01:22:35,360
Speaker 10: you have that great way of distilling, like that difference,

1576
01:22:35,439 --> 01:22:39,160
Speaker 10: you know, using emotions instead of values, and the suble

1577
01:22:39,280 --> 01:22:41,920
Speaker 10: differences between them. I want us to play one of

1578
01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:45,519
Speaker 10: those clips just to illustrate that we have Charlie citing

1579
01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:48,519
Speaker 10: you for a moral question for eighty seven.

1580
01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:51,679
Speaker 16: I learned this from the great Dennis Prager, who says,

1581
01:22:51,720 --> 01:22:54,400
Speaker 16: stop focusing on intentions, focus on the actions.

1582
01:22:54,439 --> 01:22:57,120
Speaker 1: It's a much better way to.

1583
01:22:58,800 --> 01:23:01,760
Speaker 16: Judge whether or not something is right or wrong intentions.

1584
01:23:02,479 --> 01:23:04,639
Speaker 16: As I've said before, and there's a video went viral,

1585
01:23:04,680 --> 01:23:07,799
Speaker 16: the Nazis thought they were doing good. They convinced themselves

1586
01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:09,960
Speaker 16: that they were doing good, when in reality they were

1587
01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:11,840
Speaker 16: doing some of the greatest evil in the history of

1588
01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:12,520
Speaker 16: the species.

1589
01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:21,280
Speaker 3: It's very moving to me, obviously. I don't know if

1590
01:23:21,400 --> 01:23:25,280
Speaker 3: either of you know this. Charlie visited me in my

1591
01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:32,479
Speaker 3: hospital room and he brought a copy of the trance

1592
01:23:33,160 --> 01:23:39,439
Speaker 3: of the of the transcript of his of his book.

1593
01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:45,960
Speaker 3: Little did I know. Little It never occurred to me,

1594
01:23:46,960 --> 01:23:52,040
Speaker 3: of course, that I would not see Charlie again, and

1595
01:23:53,479 --> 01:23:56,879
Speaker 3: it broke my heart on every grounds.

1596
01:23:58,439 --> 01:24:01,880
Speaker 13: Well, yeah, Dennis, even in the aftermath of Charlie's assassination,

1597
01:24:02,080 --> 01:24:06,759
Speaker 13: your subtitle the Battle over Who defines Good and Evil?

1598
01:24:07,640 --> 01:24:10,599
Speaker 13: And you think about I would say the vast majority

1599
01:24:10,760 --> 01:24:15,200
Speaker 13: of people reacted as you would expect and hope to

1600
01:24:15,240 --> 01:24:19,000
Speaker 13: the tragedy and sadness and horror and shock. But there

1601
01:24:19,160 --> 01:24:23,920
Speaker 13: was some voices that reacted in glee and celebration. And

1602
01:24:24,240 --> 01:24:26,200
Speaker 13: I can't help but think of your subtitle in that

1603
01:24:26,280 --> 01:24:30,840
Speaker 13: book as the perfect distillation of why who The battle

1604
01:24:30,880 --> 01:24:33,320
Speaker 13: of who gets to find good and evil matters so much.

1605
01:24:33,520 --> 01:24:35,320
Speaker 14: One minute in this segment, Dennis.

1606
01:24:36,600 --> 01:24:42,400
Speaker 3: Well, if man determines humans determined what is good and evil,

1607
01:24:43,600 --> 01:24:49,679
Speaker 3: then you can have moral inversions where the Nazis are

1608
01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:54,920
Speaker 3: good are good guys, and the Jews and others are

1609
01:24:54,960 --> 01:24:59,200
Speaker 3: bad guys. You have that now in the Middle East,

1610
01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:07,599
Speaker 3: where all of a sudden, the Nazis of our time,

1611
01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:14,080
Speaker 3: the true Nazis of our time Hamas are the good guys.

1612
01:25:15,040 --> 01:25:23,160
Speaker 3: They're battling colonialism and Israel, a democracy with one fifth

1613
01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:29,160
Speaker 3: of its citizens are Arab Muslims who thrive there and

1614
01:25:29,200 --> 01:25:35,280
Speaker 3: who supported Israel by and large in this war. Israel

1615
01:25:35,479 --> 01:25:40,440
Speaker 3: is the bad guy. We are living in a morally

1616
01:25:40,520 --> 01:25:42,320
Speaker 3: inverted universe.

1617
01:25:43,120 --> 01:25:48,960
Speaker 13: Moral inversions because of secularism and losing track of God's

1618
01:25:49,040 --> 01:25:52,120
Speaker 13: value system and design for our lives. More with Dennis Prager,

1619
01:25:52,120 --> 01:26:07,640
Speaker 13: the Great Dennis Prager. When we get back, all right,

1620
01:26:07,680 --> 01:26:10,040
Speaker 13: welcome back to the Charlie Kirkshaw. We are joined, of

1621
01:26:10,080 --> 01:26:14,400
Speaker 13: course by Charlie's mentor, dear friend, the man he dedicated

1622
01:26:14,400 --> 01:26:18,160
Speaker 13: his final book to, Dennis Prager, who is a legend,

1623
01:26:18,720 --> 01:26:21,920
Speaker 13: an icon, and one of the most important moral teachers

1624
01:26:22,400 --> 01:26:25,120
Speaker 13: of our time. Dennis, I want to ask you a

1625
01:26:25,240 --> 01:26:27,960
Speaker 13: question that you addressed in the book. It's called the

1626
01:26:28,040 --> 01:26:29,000
Speaker 13: problem of pain.

1627
01:26:29,080 --> 01:26:29,519
Speaker 14: As C. S.

1628
01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:32,600
Speaker 13: Lewis said, you know, how does your book answer the

1629
01:26:32,680 --> 01:26:36,960
Speaker 13: question of why a supposedly good God allows for so

1630
01:26:37,040 --> 01:26:39,280
Speaker 13: much suffering and evil in the world.

1631
01:26:41,800 --> 01:26:52,280
Speaker 3: I've dealt with that all of my life, and I

1632
01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:54,080
Speaker 3: have so much to say on it. I'll try to

1633
01:26:54,160 --> 01:26:59,920
Speaker 3: be a concise all right. First of all, people need

1634
01:27:00,160 --> 01:27:06,879
Speaker 3: to deal with that issue before tragedy strikes in their life.

1635
01:27:07,640 --> 01:27:14,479
Speaker 3: If you start thinking about that question, what only once

1636
01:27:14,640 --> 01:27:21,479
Speaker 3: you've been hurt, It's too late. I, for whatever reason,

1637
01:27:22,400 --> 01:27:28,679
Speaker 3: was preoccupied with the problem of evil from my high

1638
01:27:28,720 --> 01:27:35,400
Speaker 3: school days, so I dealt with it before I was

1639
01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:41,400
Speaker 3: personally hit by the tragedy that I am currently living,

1640
01:27:42,600 --> 01:27:49,280
Speaker 3: all right, and therefore I already had answers people. I'll

1641
01:27:49,320 --> 01:27:53,120
Speaker 3: give you a great example. A woman called my radio

1642
01:27:53,240 --> 01:27:57,040
Speaker 3: show many years ago said, you know, I just want

1643
01:27:57,080 --> 01:28:03,800
Speaker 3: you to know, Dennis, that I always vehemently disagreed with

1644
01:28:03,880 --> 01:28:08,680
Speaker 3: you on capital punishment. I was opposed to capital punishment

1645
01:28:09,200 --> 01:28:14,719
Speaker 3: and you were ardently for it. Well, I've come around

1646
01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:19,480
Speaker 3: now to your point of view. I'm for capital punishment.

1647
01:28:20,200 --> 01:28:23,759
Speaker 3: And I said why, I said, because my brother was murdered,

1648
01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:31,200
Speaker 3: So of course I offered condolences. But then I said

1649
01:28:32,479 --> 01:28:38,960
Speaker 3: what needed to be said that, I said to her,

1650
01:28:40,880 --> 01:28:45,360
Speaker 3: wait a minute. So, and millions of other people's brothers

1651
01:28:46,040 --> 01:28:52,479
Speaker 3: were murdered. You never asked the question, and she agreed

1652
01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:57,479
Speaker 3: she had never asked the question before. This is a

1653
01:28:57,680 --> 01:29:04,560
Speaker 3: common flaw in the human species. We deal with issues

1654
01:29:05,360 --> 01:29:10,120
Speaker 3: only when we are confronted by them. You've got to

1655
01:29:10,160 --> 01:29:14,720
Speaker 3: deal with these issues way before you're hit by them.

1656
01:29:15,240 --> 01:29:15,960
Speaker 13: I did.

1657
01:29:17,880 --> 01:29:23,959
Speaker 3: Why. Way of dealing with it is through reason and religion.

1658
01:29:25,320 --> 01:29:33,120
Speaker 3: The greatest combination there is Judeo Christian religions and reason,

1659
01:29:34,520 --> 01:29:40,200
Speaker 3: and that is that God allows evil to take place,

1660
01:29:41,680 --> 01:29:50,400
Speaker 3: because we would be robots. Otherwise life would lose its

1661
01:29:50,479 --> 01:29:57,800
Speaker 3: meaning people would no longer be a free species. So

1662
01:29:59,120 --> 01:30:00,000
Speaker 3: that has to happen.

1663
01:30:00,120 --> 01:30:08,360
Speaker 6: And and as regards uh, a natural evil if you will,

1664
01:30:09,320 --> 01:30:14,519
Speaker 6: cancer of the of the of the undeserving, You're right,

1665
01:30:14,560 --> 01:30:16,519
Speaker 6: that's we don't have an answer to that.

1666
01:30:18,439 --> 01:30:24,400
Speaker 3: I've read book after book by theologian after theologian. There's

1667
01:30:24,439 --> 01:30:30,560
Speaker 3: no great answer to the to the question. And uh.

1668
01:30:30,760 --> 01:30:43,280
Speaker 3: Therefore uh we uh we have only Job's the answer

1669
01:30:43,360 --> 01:30:48,800
Speaker 3: at the end of Job where God says, where were

1670
01:30:48,880 --> 01:30:54,439
Speaker 3: you when I created the world? Do you know why

1671
01:30:54,560 --> 01:31:01,160
Speaker 3: eagles make nests? In other words, were we're like puppies

1672
01:31:03,640 --> 01:31:08,800
Speaker 3: as compared to human beings in our ability to understand

1673
01:31:08,920 --> 01:31:15,519
Speaker 3: life when we compare ourselves to God. We don't know

1674
01:31:15,600 --> 01:31:19,559
Speaker 3: the answer, but I will say I do believe that

1675
01:31:19,640 --> 01:31:25,000
Speaker 3: there's bad luck. Most religious people differ with me, but

1676
01:31:25,120 --> 01:31:31,280
Speaker 3: I think God. In my case, God allowed gravity to

1677
01:31:32,760 --> 01:31:38,240
Speaker 3: and lack of friction to take its course. Well, what

1678
01:31:38,400 --> 01:31:42,559
Speaker 3: was he supposed to do stop it from happening to me?

1679
01:31:45,200 --> 01:31:49,840
Speaker 3: And I wrote this stuff decades before what happened to me.

1680
01:31:51,960 --> 01:31:52,960
Speaker 5: It's remarkable.

1681
01:31:53,000 --> 01:31:55,840
Speaker 10: And I know one thing I think about I know

1682
01:31:55,960 --> 01:31:58,920
Speaker 10: Charlie had wanted to do his Sabbath book even before

1683
01:31:59,280 --> 01:32:01,800
Speaker 10: your accident. I know he was planning it, but I

1684
01:32:01,840 --> 01:32:05,120
Speaker 10: also recall after it occurred. I know that really motivated

1685
01:32:05,160 --> 01:32:07,120
Speaker 10: him to make sure that was his next book that

1686
01:32:07,160 --> 01:32:09,200
Speaker 10: he would work on, and it moved him to.

1687
01:32:09,200 --> 01:32:10,040
Speaker 5: Complete it quickly.

1688
01:32:11,280 --> 01:32:12,960
Speaker 10: I don't know if that offers some solace to you

1689
01:32:13,080 --> 01:32:15,919
Speaker 10: or not, but I think I know Charlie drew some inspiration.

1690
01:32:16,000 --> 01:32:18,680
Speaker 5: He really wanted to get this Dennis inspired.

1691
01:32:18,200 --> 01:32:21,120
Speaker 10: Book because he knew, you know, maybe he wouldn't recover,

1692
01:32:21,200 --> 01:32:23,040
Speaker 10: and he wanted to make sure that he would have

1693
01:32:23,439 --> 01:32:25,360
Speaker 10: be able to carry on your legacy as well with

1694
01:32:25,439 --> 01:32:30,200
Speaker 10: his own work. Now, I know none of us expected this,

1695
01:32:30,360 --> 01:32:33,160
Speaker 10: but we're glad that. I guess you could return the favor.

1696
01:32:33,200 --> 01:32:36,599
Speaker 10: You are continuing Charlie's legacy. We're trying to continue Charlie's legacy.

1697
01:32:37,320 --> 01:32:37,799
Speaker 14: What happened.

1698
01:32:39,760 --> 01:32:44,240
Speaker 3: And I dedicated to my book which is coming out now,

1699
01:32:45,680 --> 01:32:50,799
Speaker 3: if there is no God, to Charlie as it happens,

1700
01:32:51,920 --> 01:32:56,439
Speaker 3: which I would have done anyway, but now it was

1701
01:32:56,479 --> 01:33:02,320
Speaker 3: to Charlie's memory, which I still to this day. I

1702
01:33:02,360 --> 01:33:10,080
Speaker 3: find that almost as unbelievable as my mighty paralysis Charlie

1703
01:33:10,200 --> 01:33:19,559
Speaker 3: Kirk is dead. I it's it, this vibrant, incredibly young man.

1704
01:33:23,240 --> 01:33:29,559
Speaker 13: It's I know, yeah, it's a it's a reality that

1705
01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:32,719
Speaker 13: we confront every day. And we still have his seat

1706
01:33:32,760 --> 01:33:35,640
Speaker 13: open here in the studio, Dennis, and we'll never fill it.

1707
01:33:36,439 --> 01:33:40,720
Speaker 13: And but it's it's a comfort. I didn't realize how

1708
01:33:40,760 --> 01:33:43,679
Speaker 13: comforting it was gonna be for me personally to talk

1709
01:33:43,680 --> 01:33:46,040
Speaker 13: to you, Dennis, and to see you doing so well.

1710
01:33:46,320 --> 01:33:48,040
Speaker 13: I didn't know what to expect when I saw you,

1711
01:33:48,720 --> 01:33:51,960
Speaker 13: and your mind is as vibrant and as alive as ever,

1712
01:33:52,120 --> 01:33:54,240
Speaker 13: even if your body's rebelling against you.

1713
01:33:54,520 --> 01:33:56,919
Speaker 14: And this has been truly wonderful.

1714
01:33:57,040 --> 01:33:59,000
Speaker 13: I wish we could have more time, and in fact,

1715
01:33:59,439 --> 01:34:00,439
Speaker 13: maybe we'll try for that.

1716
01:34:00,560 --> 01:34:02,320
Speaker 14: But thank you so much.

1717
01:34:02,160 --> 01:34:05,880
Speaker 13: Dennis Brager for talking about your book and talking about Charlie.

1718
01:34:05,560 --> 01:34:06,120
Speaker 14: With us today.

1719
01:34:07,000 --> 01:34:12,720
Speaker 3: I would love another opportunity to talk to you, and

1720
01:34:14,040 --> 01:34:17,000
Speaker 3: you really you may not be in that chair, but

1721
01:34:17,880 --> 01:34:24,200
Speaker 3: you're filling the seat beautifully. And finally, I just ask

1722
01:34:24,360 --> 01:34:25,600
Speaker 3: your listeners