WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Texas Coast Offense Better than Amari + Zeke version? 0:00:02.160 --> 0:00:04.640 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:04.640 --> 0:00:06.240 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:08.560 --> 0:00:14.360 Cowboys, Let's go. 0:00:14.800 --> 0:00:15.960 Are you ready for a break? 0:00:16.239 --> 0:00:19.200 Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 0:00:19.320 --> 0:00:23.520 Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. 0:00:23.720 --> 0:00:26.400 It's time for the Break on. 0:00:26.440 --> 0:00:27.960 Dallas Cowboys dot Com. 0:00:28.000 --> 0:00:33.960 We were with Ambar Garcia, Brian brought us, Patrick Walker 0:00:34.440 --> 0:00:35.880 and Derek Eagleton. 0:00:38.200 --> 0:00:41.200 It is Monday, August seventh, twenty twenty three, Season nineteen, 0:00:41.200 --> 0:00:43.840 episode number fifteen. Welcome to the latest edition of The Break. 0:00:43.840 --> 0:00:47.080 We're life Moxnard, California. Man, we're rounding this thing out. 0:00:47.120 --> 0:00:49.040 We've been here two weeks. We got about two more 0:00:49.080 --> 0:00:52.199 weeks left, although we do get a slight respite. We 0:00:52.280 --> 0:00:54.400 get to go home for about it's not even a 0:00:54.440 --> 0:00:56.760 full twenty four hours. We'll be at home for the 0:00:56.840 --> 0:00:59.080 upcoming preseason game of Cowboys to kick it off this 0:00:59.120 --> 0:01:01.520 weekend against the Jacksonville Jaguars. 0:01:01.520 --> 0:01:03.680 Come back out for a final week, head out to 0:01:03.720 --> 0:01:04.720 Seattle for a game. 0:01:05.240 --> 0:01:07.640 Then we'll be back and then we'll be heading into 0:01:07.720 --> 0:01:10.720 the season two weeks later. So it's coming quick. It's 0:01:10.720 --> 0:01:13.400 coming really quick. It's almost it is so what we're 0:01:13.440 --> 0:01:16.120 gonna do today. Brian's out with us today. He's actually 0:01:16.200 --> 0:01:18.400 back in Dallas at this point, So it's up to 0:01:18.480 --> 0:01:19.840 us to hold it down, or at least up to 0:01:19.880 --> 0:01:21.120 the three of us to hold it down for the 0:01:21.160 --> 0:01:23.959 next week. And then when we go to Dallas, we're 0:01:24.000 --> 0:01:28.120 gonna actually leave Amber. She's like not coming back. She's 0:01:28.160 --> 0:01:28.679 not coming back. 0:01:30.080 --> 0:01:32.000 She's not dropping me off in Dallas. 0:01:32.160 --> 0:01:34.560 That final week is gonna be me and Patrick and Uh. 0:01:34.680 --> 0:01:36.839 I think we might actually have a little special guests 0:01:36.840 --> 0:01:39.280 for everybody that final week. Yeah, I don't know if 0:01:39.280 --> 0:01:41.080 Amber likes that idea, but we're going to see how 0:01:41.080 --> 0:01:41.600 it goes well. 0:01:41.600 --> 0:01:43.760 She's really relaxed right now for her massage. I don't 0:01:43.760 --> 0:01:44.400 think she cares. 0:01:44.440 --> 0:01:46.560 That's true, right, she's feeling. 0:01:48.880 --> 0:01:50.160 She's on her wave right now. 0:01:50.760 --> 0:01:53.880 I just think once you part of ways with somebody, 0:01:54.680 --> 0:01:57.400 you shouldn't necessarily go back to that. There is a 0:01:57.800 --> 0:02:01.000 period where you just stay away from each other and 0:02:01.040 --> 0:02:04.120 then maybe down the road you might reconnect. But this 0:02:04.200 --> 0:02:08.880 is too soon. But hey, I'm not having a relationship. 0:02:09.600 --> 0:02:12.560 Relationship advice from new Garcia, all right, So here's what 0:02:12.560 --> 0:02:13.480 we're gonna do today. 0:02:13.880 --> 0:02:16.040 We got a lot to catch up on Cowboys have 0:02:16.120 --> 0:02:17.560 their blue white practice. 0:02:17.680 --> 0:02:19.840 It wasn't really a scrimmage. It used to be a scrimmage. 0:02:19.840 --> 0:02:21.240 It wasn't a scrimmage. It as a practice. 0:02:21.280 --> 0:02:24.560 But have the practice Saturday, and we had some some 0:02:24.680 --> 0:02:26.440 notes from that. I want to hear from you guys 0:02:26.440 --> 0:02:29.120 on some of the things you saw, some interesting notes 0:02:29.639 --> 0:02:33.360 of players in moments. We'll definitely get into that mojo moment. 0:02:33.400 --> 0:02:36.600 That's something worth discussing. And then what we're gonna do 0:02:36.639 --> 0:02:39.200 is we're gonna round out our We started this conversation 0:02:39.320 --> 0:02:41.320 last week, particularly on the offensive side of the ball. 0:02:41.360 --> 0:02:43.080 We have a few more positions on the offense and 0:02:43.120 --> 0:02:45.040 then on some on the defense. But we're really talking 0:02:45.040 --> 0:02:47.120 about camp battles, and we're gonna go through each position 0:02:47.560 --> 0:02:48.280 and we're gonna. 0:02:48.080 --> 0:02:49.800 Kind of line out the top. 0:02:49.680 --> 0:02:52.760 Four or five six players at that position, so the 0:02:52.760 --> 0:02:54.520 fans can get an idea of, based on what we've 0:02:54.560 --> 0:02:56.919 seen out here, how this thing is shaping up. As 0:02:56.919 --> 0:02:59.519 far as who's gonna be your starters in most instances, 0:02:59.520 --> 0:03:01.360 we know that, but what does your depth look like? 0:03:01.400 --> 0:03:03.880 Who are the guys that are your depth pieces, your third, fourth, 0:03:04.000 --> 0:03:06.480 fifth guys on the roster at each position? We'll go 0:03:06.520 --> 0:03:08.600 through some of that. We'll also take some questions. Remember, 0:03:08.639 --> 0:03:10.519 we got our new text line up and rolling. The 0:03:10.600 --> 0:03:14.320 number is eight one seven two nine zero three two 0:03:14.440 --> 0:03:18.119 nine eight again eight one seven, two nine zero three 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:21.760 two nine eight. Will take questions. We'll take comments throughout 0:03:21.800 --> 0:03:24.000 the show. So send us what you got and we'll 0:03:24.000 --> 0:03:25.959 try to integrate you into the show. All right, So 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:29.320 let's start first with uh Patri, Let's get some injury updates. 0:03:29.360 --> 0:03:32.000 A couple guys, Ronald Jones, Luke Schoonmaker. What are we 0:03:32.000 --> 0:03:33.120 hearing about those guys right now? 0:03:33.160 --> 0:03:33.280 So? 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:36.480 Ronald Jones left the Blue White practice on Saturday with 0:03:36.640 --> 0:03:38.840 what's being described as a growing injury. 0:03:39.800 --> 0:03:41.880 The severity of that is unknown at the moment. 0:03:41.960 --> 0:03:45.640 We'll get more information from Mike McCarthy today as far 0:03:45.680 --> 0:03:48.840 as if Rojo is going to practice. Obviously, you know, 0:03:48.920 --> 0:03:50.720 tough week for him last week, gets the news of 0:03:50.760 --> 0:03:53.640 the two game suspension and then he leaves on Saturday, 0:03:53.680 --> 0:03:56.119 So and groins can be a bit nagging. So we'll 0:03:56.120 --> 0:03:58.120 see if he practices today or at all this week. 0:03:58.160 --> 0:04:02.520 We'll see other Cowboys handle that. Luke Schoomaker bittersweet news 0:04:02.520 --> 0:04:05.640 more sweet than bitter. He suffered what Mike McCarthy described 0:04:05.680 --> 0:04:09.520 as a minor setback in his recovery from plantar fasciitis. 0:04:09.640 --> 0:04:12.840 The expectation initially was that Schoon would be on the 0:04:12.880 --> 0:04:15.960 field potentially for the Blue White practice, but the date 0:04:16.080 --> 0:04:19.000 was changed, but not too far out because the expectation 0:04:19.200 --> 0:04:22.159 is now moved to today. So we'll ask Mike about 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:24.240 that today if that's still the plan or if they're 0:04:24.240 --> 0:04:28.679 going to give schoolmakers some more time. Donovan Wilson, he 0:04:29.160 --> 0:04:32.119 was seen without a boot on Saturday, so big news 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:34.280 there as he battles back from that cap string he 0:04:34.360 --> 0:04:37.159 suffered a couple of weeks ago. Initially the injury, the 0:04:37.160 --> 0:04:41.440 prognosis was several weeks for he and Israel mcwamu. Donovan 0:04:41.440 --> 0:04:43.880 Wilson was on the sideline with no boot, that's key 0:04:43.920 --> 0:04:47.799 to note. And Israel mcwuamu actually returned to full team practice, 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:50.480 full team duty. So the safety unit is getting healthy 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:53.320 for the Cowboys, and that's great news, especially when you 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:55.480 combine it with the fact that young guys je Ye, 0:04:55.600 --> 0:04:58.440 Thomas Marquee Spell they've been out there doing some good work. 0:04:58.520 --> 0:05:02.479 Sam Williams shoulder string last week, he returned to full 0:05:02.520 --> 0:05:05.480 practice duties last Thursday, so of course he was participating 0:05:05.520 --> 0:05:08.480 on Saturday. So Cowboys are the minor injuries that they're 0:05:08.520 --> 0:05:11.280 dealing with. They're getting healthier, and Luke school Maker looks 0:05:11.279 --> 0:05:13.960 like he's making his way toward a training camp debut. 0:05:14.120 --> 0:05:17.000 How much do you guys think this injury to Schoonmaker 0:05:17.120 --> 0:05:20.600 set him back that tight end position. It's a it's 0:05:20.640 --> 0:05:22.680 an interesting position, and we're gonna talk a little bit 0:05:22.680 --> 0:05:25.360 about that when we get into our depth, but that's 0:05:25.400 --> 0:05:27.160 one of the positions that I look at and I'm like, 0:05:27.240 --> 0:05:29.600 every day I'm seeing different guys that are lowered down 0:05:29.640 --> 0:05:32.720 the depth chart making plays out here, getting familiar with 0:05:32.760 --> 0:05:33.360 the offense. 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:35.560 How much is this setting the rookie back. 0:05:36.600 --> 0:05:39.279 I mean, for a rookie, you never want to miss 0:05:39.400 --> 0:05:42.120 any type of time. You're still trying to build that 0:05:42.240 --> 0:05:46.200 relationship with your quarterback and just go out there and 0:05:46.279 --> 0:05:49.720 run routes. But for a guy like him, I know 0:05:50.400 --> 0:05:52.960 when he was drafted, we were talking a lot about 0:05:53.040 --> 0:05:57.960 him and possibly him making somewhat of an impact this 0:05:58.080 --> 0:06:01.320 year early on, but I never really saw them that way. 0:06:01.360 --> 0:06:03.440 I still saw the other guys up front, and I'm 0:06:03.480 --> 0:06:06.360 curious what Brian would even say when it comes to blocking, 0:06:06.440 --> 0:06:09.000 how he was looking. That's the guy I haven't seen 0:06:09.400 --> 0:06:11.480 much out here when he was doing things. Were you 0:06:11.520 --> 0:06:14.719 noticing something as first the blocking aspect of his game? 0:06:14.880 --> 0:06:16.640 Not quite yet? Not quite yet, So. 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:19.840 Those are things that you're I mean, it's a big 0:06:19.880 --> 0:06:23.400 step back, but like he said, we don't know how 0:06:23.480 --> 0:06:26.360 much time that's gonna be. But as far as what 0:06:26.440 --> 0:06:29.880 I was expecting to get from him this year early on, 0:06:30.279 --> 0:06:32.120 it wasn't necessarily much. 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:35.479 Well for my stance when it comes to schoolmaker Amber 0:06:35.600 --> 0:06:37.159 makes a great point. When you're a rookie, you don't 0:06:37.160 --> 0:06:39.240 want to miss any time at all, especially at the 0:06:39.279 --> 0:06:41.440 beginning when it's your first training camp. You're trying to 0:06:41.440 --> 0:06:43.520 get your legs under you. You're trying to get a 0:06:43.600 --> 0:06:46.200 chemistry with these quarterbacks. You're trying to build that on 0:06:46.279 --> 0:06:49.120 field chemistry with the Titans coach Lunda Wells, and you 0:06:49.120 --> 0:06:51.520 know the veterans that are on the team, Jake Ferguson, 0:06:51.640 --> 0:06:57.040 Peyton Hindershot Sean McEwan. But you also have to factor 0:06:57.120 --> 0:07:00.240 in when he does come back to the field's not 0:07:00.279 --> 0:07:03.280 going to immediately be immediately be one hundred percent coming 0:07:03.320 --> 0:07:06.280 off of a plantar fasciitis injury. As a tight end, 0:07:06.320 --> 0:07:08.160 who's going to have to block, which means he has 0:07:08.200 --> 0:07:10.160 to plant his feet into the ground and hold anchor. 0:07:10.320 --> 0:07:12.600 He's going to have to run routes and get open 0:07:12.680 --> 0:07:13.160 in space. 0:07:13.520 --> 0:07:15.840 So when he comes back, let's say it takes two 0:07:15.840 --> 0:07:19.720 to three weeks for him to acclimate fully. So that's most, 0:07:19.720 --> 0:07:22.080 if not all, a training camp before he's back at 0:07:22.080 --> 0:07:25.760 one hundred percent physically, maybe mentally, and then it's week one. 0:07:26.120 --> 0:07:29.280 So it made to your point, Derek, we may not 0:07:29.440 --> 0:07:33.640 see prime Luke schoon Maker until you know, four weeks 0:07:33.640 --> 0:07:36.760 into the season because he's missing training camp. 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:39.160 And what's song from my understanding from this type of 0:07:39.200 --> 0:07:43.280 injuries is that it's not necessarily something that you just fix. 0:07:43.480 --> 0:07:45.600 You know, you don't go and get a surgery and 0:07:45.640 --> 0:07:47.720 get it fixed right away or anything like that. Something 0:07:47.760 --> 0:07:50.840 not even when he's still he feels good now and 0:07:50.960 --> 0:07:53.760 goes back out there, it can pop up again all 0:07:53.800 --> 0:07:55.800 of a sudden. Who was it? Was it a Maari 0:07:56.000 --> 0:07:58.440 that that was that? For Ai it was a receiver 0:07:58.960 --> 0:08:03.800 a couple of years ago. I think it it's a 0:08:03.880 --> 0:08:04.800 very painful injury. 0:08:04.840 --> 0:08:08.040 I mean painful injuries that takes your while to get past, 0:08:08.120 --> 0:08:11.960 and there is no there's no real like escaping the pain. 0:08:12.080 --> 0:08:14.120 Like the pain is the pain. You're just gonna be pain. 0:08:14.160 --> 0:08:17.400 And it's also a weird injury in that if you've 0:08:17.600 --> 0:08:19.560 ever suffered it, or if you just kind of know 0:08:19.640 --> 0:08:23.520 of the the athletic medical side of it, you kind 0:08:23.520 --> 0:08:26.560 of wanted to pop, so to speak, you would rather 0:08:26.600 --> 0:08:28.720 that ligament go ahead and pop so it can heal 0:08:29.280 --> 0:08:33.079 faster as opposed to just being that strain, because it's 0:08:33.080 --> 0:08:35.319 the strain that's more aggravating, it's the strain that takes 0:08:35.320 --> 0:08:38.679 longer to heal. So I'm sure there was a decision 0:08:38.720 --> 0:08:42.000 made there on if he wanted to have that done forcefully, 0:08:42.080 --> 0:08:44.000 or if he felt like or if Britt Brown and 0:08:44.040 --> 0:08:46.079 the training staff and the medical team here felt like 0:08:46.160 --> 0:08:48.040 it was not so much of a strain that they 0:08:48.040 --> 0:08:49.920 didn't have to go to that extreme. But it's a 0:08:49.960 --> 0:08:53.080 weird injury because you would rather it just and then 0:08:53.160 --> 0:08:56.360 you'd heal faster. So a lot of things are are 0:08:56.440 --> 0:08:59.000 kind of factoring into win school Maker can or cannot 0:08:59.040 --> 0:09:02.200 come back. But again McCarthy said, the expectation now is 0:09:02.240 --> 0:09:04.920 that it happens on Monday, and as we're having this conversation. 0:09:05.040 --> 0:09:07.640 I'm seeing a report that he will in fact come 0:09:07.679 --> 0:09:09.920 up with a non football injury list today. Again, we'll 0:09:09.920 --> 0:09:12.440 confirm that with Mike when he speaks in about an 0:09:12.480 --> 0:09:14.000 hour or so from now. But if that's the case, 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:15.640 then yes, ladies and gentlemen, we're going to get our 0:09:15.679 --> 0:09:19.520 first look at second round pick former Wolverine Luke Schoolmaker 0:09:19.559 --> 0:09:20.520 in today's practice. 0:09:20.520 --> 0:09:22.160 And what we have to know is like that also 0:09:22.200 --> 0:09:24.520 the most important thing, I guess I shouldn't say the 0:09:24.520 --> 0:09:26.240 most important thing, but the thing that I want to 0:09:26.240 --> 0:09:28.520 see most from him, as you mentioned, Namber, is the 0:09:28.559 --> 0:09:30.720 ability to block, because that's where I feel like they 0:09:31.000 --> 0:09:32.520 had some room. I think they got a lot of 0:09:32.600 --> 0:09:35.000 tight ends on this team who can catch passes, who 0:09:35.000 --> 0:09:36.439 can get up field, who to make plays. 0:09:36.880 --> 0:09:39.520 You've seen the blocking not be there at times. 0:09:39.640 --> 0:09:42.800 Yeah, yeah, exactly, and that's what he did at Michigan. 0:09:43.160 --> 0:09:45.400 They feel like they can get more out of him 0:09:45.400 --> 0:09:47.720 than just being a blocking tight end. But at the 0:09:47.760 --> 0:09:50.080 end of the day, if he's a great blocking tight end. 0:09:50.200 --> 0:09:52.760 That's valuable for the Dallas coultl He's very solid on 0:09:52.840 --> 0:09:55.160 his film for Michigan as a blocker. I believe, like 0:09:55.200 --> 0:09:57.000 you said, I believe that there's more in that two 0:09:57.080 --> 0:09:59.520 box than just being a blocker. I think he's the 0:09:59.559 --> 0:10:03.040 most well rounded tight end in the room right now. Again, 0:10:03.160 --> 0:10:05.280 we have to see that on the NFL field. We 0:10:05.320 --> 0:10:07.120 have to see that on the Cowboys practice field before 0:10:07.160 --> 0:10:09.920 we can really definitively say that. I like the progress 0:10:09.920 --> 0:10:12.319 in blocking that Jake Ferguson is making. For example, He's 0:10:12.320 --> 0:10:14.920 making strides in that category, so I think he's right 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:15.720 there with Ferguson. 0:10:15.760 --> 0:10:18.400 But Ferguson obviously has the leg up. But I'm really 0:10:18.440 --> 0:10:21.040 really looking forward to seeing what Schoon can bring. Uh. 0:10:21.080 --> 0:10:23.480 And he's not a small dude. This is a this 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:26.719 is a big boy. So I think the blocking will 0:10:26.800 --> 0:10:29.520 kind of take care of itself. What I'm looking for 0:10:29.880 --> 0:10:32.280 if and when he shows up in practice today, tomorrow, 0:10:32.320 --> 0:10:34.320 whatever the case may be, I want to see how 0:10:34.360 --> 0:10:37.480 comfortable he is running routes on that foot. That's going 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:39.520 to tell the real story on how he how good 0:10:39.559 --> 0:10:40.839 he feels or does not feel. 0:10:41.240 --> 0:10:45.520 I will say, at least, at the very least, he's 0:10:45.559 --> 0:10:49.520 been getting work. What are those machines called jokes, they 0:10:49.720 --> 0:10:52.840 throw the ball. Yeah, he's been doing a lot of that, 0:10:53.240 --> 0:10:58.560 and he's looked pretty good. I mean, that's a it 0:10:58.600 --> 0:11:01.400 looks like an easy exercise. But you know those balls, 0:11:02.440 --> 0:11:06.720 yeah yeah, yeah, But he's looked good catching those balls 0:11:06.720 --> 0:11:09.160 and at least working in that sense. So we'll see 0:11:09.160 --> 0:11:10.080 it once he gets out there. 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:12.440 I'm not worried about his hands. He's got hands. Yeah, Honestly, 0:11:12.480 --> 0:11:14.040 I won't look at his foot honestly for. 0:11:14.400 --> 0:11:16.000 Both the first and the second round pick. 0:11:16.559 --> 0:11:18.400 I know that the Cowboys feel like they can get 0:11:18.440 --> 0:11:20.000 more out of them than what they showed in college. 0:11:20.040 --> 0:11:22.680 But quite frankly, for me, if they can at least 0:11:22.679 --> 0:11:25.360 do what they did very well in college, Mazzie stopping 0:11:25.360 --> 0:11:28.520 the run, Schoonmaker blocking, if they can do that in 0:11:28.559 --> 0:11:31.520 their first year, that's putting the Cowboys far ahead of 0:11:31.559 --> 0:11:33.400 where they were because those are two areas where they 0:11:33.400 --> 0:11:36.600 could use that extra, that ability where they don't really 0:11:36.640 --> 0:11:39.360 they didn't really have it consistently last year. We're gonna 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:41.400 take our first break when we come back. 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Essentially, during practice, coach 0:14:27.160 --> 0:14:30.800 will have a short period of practice where they will 0:14:30.840 --> 0:14:33.920 work on something. It's usually a competitive type situation that 0:14:33.960 --> 0:14:37.240 he wants to put them in offense versus defense, or 0:14:37.240 --> 0:14:41.040 special teams or something where there is competition and he 0:14:41.120 --> 0:14:42.800 just kind of highlights it for the whole team to 0:14:42.840 --> 0:14:46.920 be around and everybody's watching and see how the competition works. 0:14:47.880 --> 0:14:52.119 That day on Saturday, Mojo moment was built around Basically, 0:14:52.200 --> 0:14:55.560 it was kind of a two play type situation. You 0:14:55.600 --> 0:14:58.880 have the ball, you're needing to get into field goal range, 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:02.360 kind of right at the outskirts of field goal range. 0:15:02.600 --> 0:15:04.840 You get one play, and then after that one play, 0:15:04.840 --> 0:15:06.720 you gotta get the field goal unit on the field. 0:15:06.880 --> 0:15:08.560 They got to try to kick a field goal to win. 0:15:09.760 --> 0:15:14.040 There were six opportunities. There was one made field goal, 0:15:14.440 --> 0:15:17.720 one five misses. Who know, what were your thoughts about that? 0:15:17.960 --> 0:15:18.720 And is it? 0:15:19.320 --> 0:15:20.720 I know there was a lot made of it. 0:15:20.960 --> 0:15:23.280 I think we all raise our eyebrows quite a bit 0:15:23.480 --> 0:15:27.040 in the grand scheme of things. How how important was 0:15:27.080 --> 0:15:29.120 that or how much of a problem is that? 0:15:29.240 --> 0:15:30.840 In your opinion, that. 0:15:30.840 --> 0:15:34.360 Was a massive problem. I've sat here on this panel 0:15:34.400 --> 0:15:38.640 now a couple of times and we and I specifically said, 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:42.080 I was not convinced that the kicker that that's going 0:15:42.120 --> 0:15:44.000 to be the eventual kicker for twenty twenty three is 0:15:44.040 --> 0:15:46.520 on the roster right now. And I said, because the 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:49.120 body of evidence is lacking. I hadn't seen anything. There's 0:15:49.160 --> 0:15:54.280 nothing on the resume. Now, Viscayano, he did well in 0:15:54.440 --> 0:15:57.200 mini camp, but that's mini camp. So now you're out 0:15:57.240 --> 0:15:59.280 here and I get it. The win and whatnot the elements, 0:15:59.280 --> 0:16:03.440 but that's football. The crowd you just heard. You heard 0:16:03.480 --> 0:16:06.560 how the crowd was just eviscerating them after each miss. 0:16:06.600 --> 0:16:10.040 That's football, and that pressure packed situation in the Mojo 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:13.360 moment you missed between the two kickers, you missed five 0:16:13.400 --> 0:16:16.000 of the six, and the misses were not pretty. 0:16:16.520 --> 0:16:19.160 One in particular, it looked like it hit. 0:16:19.080 --> 0:16:22.040 A bird and died in the end zone, only it 0:16:22.120 --> 0:16:23.040 did not hit a bird. 0:16:23.120 --> 0:16:25.120 So I don't know what happened in that instant. 0:16:25.240 --> 0:16:28.720 In that instance, my main point being I already had 0:16:28.800 --> 0:16:32.280 concern and I needed these kickers, one or both of them, 0:16:32.280 --> 0:16:35.920 to string together good days. But when the pressure was 0:16:35.960 --> 0:16:38.840 on and everybody was watching and the crowd was first 0:16:38.920 --> 0:16:41.120 cheering for them and then jeerying against them because the 0:16:41.120 --> 0:16:44.840 crowd was displeased, they just started to fold more and more, 0:16:44.880 --> 0:16:47.120 to the point where when they finally made the one, 0:16:47.200 --> 0:16:50.800 which was the final kick, the crowd exploded because the 0:16:50.840 --> 0:16:53.000 crowd was so upset that the first five were missed 0:16:53.000 --> 0:16:55.600 and these weren't sixty yard field goals that were being attempted. 0:16:55.920 --> 0:16:57.520 So I had concern already. 0:16:57.840 --> 0:17:02.120 Now it's Defcon one for me, So Cowboys, I would 0:17:02.200 --> 0:17:05.760 love to see that kicker competition, get another body. 0:17:05.440 --> 0:17:06.360 In the room. 0:17:06.720 --> 0:17:10.119 Hopefully soon, Hopefully soon we'll see what happens and what 0:17:10.160 --> 0:17:12.960 they just had to do. Something that I don't understand, 0:17:13.000 --> 0:17:16.719 and maybe you guys do, is this whole thing. When 0:17:16.760 --> 0:17:18.960 you start talking about it, some people will say, well, 0:17:19.040 --> 0:17:22.520 this is a hard place to kick, just the wind, 0:17:22.680 --> 0:17:25.760 the place, the trees. And I look and I stand 0:17:25.800 --> 0:17:29.240 out there, and I'm just like, how like, I don't 0:17:29.320 --> 0:17:34.719 understand why that's even a point to point. Yeah, And 0:17:34.760 --> 0:17:38.400 I know Nick would be one to argue that and say, well, 0:17:38.520 --> 0:17:41.760 this and the trees, and it looks pretty simple to me. 0:17:41.840 --> 0:17:44.040 It looks pretty basic as to what you would have 0:17:44.440 --> 0:17:47.320 in any other place. The wind has not been crazy. 0:17:47.480 --> 0:17:52.240 You have the little orange flags on there on the poles. 0:17:52.000 --> 0:17:54.760 Talking roughly, if you look at it, it's about ten 0:17:54.800 --> 0:17:56.879 to twelve miles powers what the wind has been at. 0:17:56.920 --> 0:18:00.240 It's worse out here, which is not again that's not horrible. 0:18:00.480 --> 0:18:03.359 Yeah, nothing, nothing that it should create the problem that 0:18:03.359 --> 0:18:08.400 we're seeing. So definitely very concerning. And you know, this 0:18:08.440 --> 0:18:12.359 is once again I feel we're sitting here similar to 0:18:12.480 --> 0:18:15.040 what we were last year. Hopefully it doesn't play out 0:18:15.080 --> 0:18:18.560 the same way as it did going into the season 0:18:18.960 --> 0:18:22.360 and towards the end of the season. But uh, they 0:18:22.400 --> 0:18:24.600 have to do something. They have to do something quick 0:18:24.640 --> 0:18:27.679 and try to fix it and get the whoever it 0:18:27.760 --> 0:18:30.280 is to come out here or go to the Star 0:18:30.520 --> 0:18:34.080 and start kicking and kicking and and just better the craft. 0:18:34.080 --> 0:18:36.639 I don't I don't know what else to say about this, 0:18:36.760 --> 0:18:39.119 but right now, I don't think the Cowboys have the answer. 0:18:39.440 --> 0:18:42.159 Yeah, and that the tough part is kicker is one 0:18:42.200 --> 0:18:45.119 of those positions where there just isn't a lot available 0:18:45.160 --> 0:18:47.600 to you at this time of the year. Now, ironically, 0:18:47.600 --> 0:18:49.960