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Speaker 1: It's a Wednesday, live in Chicago. It's The Herd. What

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Speaker 1: a crazy night. Team Italy beach Team USA at the

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Speaker 1: World Baseball Classic. The Max Crosby deal to the Ravens

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Speaker 1: is called off, and Bam ought to buy you. If

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Speaker 1: you'd have given me fifteen NBA stars and said one

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Speaker 1: of them is gonna drop eighty three points, he'd have

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Speaker 1: been number fifteen. He's a good player, five time All Defense,

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Speaker 1: two time Olympian, three time All Star. So BAM's course

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Speaker 1: eighty three points last night. Everybody now is attacking Bam

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Speaker 1: out of Bayou. Everybody's ripping him. Well, I mean, come on,

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Speaker 1: he got to the free throw line forty three times

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Speaker 1: and they were foult. First of all, this is what

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Speaker 1: we do in America. The minute their success, we got

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Speaker 1: to tear somebody down. Eighty three is eighty three, and

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Speaker 1: he's an excellent basketball player. When Wilt Chamberlain scored one

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Speaker 1: hundred points against a terrible New York Knicks team, do

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Speaker 1: you realize his Warriors were fouling the Knicks to get

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Speaker 1: Wilt extra possessions? When Kobe scored eighty one against an

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Speaker 1: awful Raptors team, the Lakers led by fifteen with four

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Speaker 1: and a half minutes left, and Kobe scored eleven points

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Speaker 1: after that. I mean Bam had thirty one in the

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Speaker 1: first quarter, sixty two after three quarters. It was totally legitimate.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Do I think Miami doctored it up.

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Speaker 1: A little bit late, Yes, But every star in this

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Speaker 1: league has had an opportunity or three to play the

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Speaker 1: cruddy Wizards and they didn't drop eighty three. So there

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Speaker 1: are just certain things in sports that are true. You

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Speaker 1: don't see pass interference on hail Mary's in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: You could, but refs get out of the way.

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Speaker 1: If a baseball pitcher's got a no hitter or a

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Speaker 1: perfect game in the seventh inning, expect that picture in

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Speaker 1: the eighth and the ninth to get the corner to

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Speaker 3: And if a guy's got sixty.

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Speaker 1: Two points and it's going for an all time historic night. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: his team's gonna probably doctor it up a little bit

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Speaker 1: to see if he can pass Kobe or get close

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Speaker 1: to Wilt. It's just it's baked into sports. Wilt, Kobe,

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Speaker 1: and Bam are not going off against good teams. The

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Speaker 1: team Wilt scored one hundred against. I looked it up

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Speaker 1: this morning, eighteen games under five hundred. In Kobe's eighty

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Speaker 1: one point game, the Raptors were twelve under five hundred,

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Speaker 1: and he scored again. They went to the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 1: Only a couple of Lakers in the entire fourth quarter

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Speaker 1: even got shots, and I doubt Smush Parker was one

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Speaker 1: Wizards listen to the Wizards starting five last night, this

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Speaker 1: is a tanking team. And you know, I think the

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Speaker 1: NBA gets too caught up on dynasties. If they happened,

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Speaker 1: they happened, and too caught up on tanking. I think

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Speaker 1: their big issue was too many three point shots, too repetitive,

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Speaker 1: and Bam didn't have that many three point shots. But

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Speaker 1: the Wizards starting five was twenty years old, twenty years old,

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Speaker 1: It was essentially a college team and not necessarily a

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Speaker 1: great one. So here's Bam sitting next to his girlfriend

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Speaker 1: WNBA star Asia Wilson and Kevin Durant after.

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Speaker 4: Have eighty three. The first game she's here is very special.

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Speaker 4: You know, the behind the scenes and the workouts and

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Speaker 4: the conversations, they're very motivating, and obviously you see what

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Speaker 4: So I'm thankful to ever in my life. I couldn't

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Speaker 4: believe it what I was hearing in the real time.

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Speaker 4: I's like, you got thirty in the first quarter, Andy's seventy.

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Speaker 4: Congratulations to band, almost work he puts in. I looked

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Speaker 4: at the statues, pretty crazy.

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Speaker 1: Forty shots, forty free throws, twenty three eighthiest of it.

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Speaker 3: That takes a lot of stabbing them, man.

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Speaker 4: It takes a lot of energy to the cause there

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, listen, if you have thirty one points

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Speaker 1: doctored as well. That's just one of those things in

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Speaker 1: it's true. Nobody's calling pass interference on Hail Mary's and

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Speaker 1: the umpire it's given you the corners. If you got

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Speaker 1: a perfect game in the seventh eighth inning, they're going

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Speaker 1: to give you the corners on a three and two pitch.

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Speaker 1: They're not going to go the other way and have

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Speaker 1: a walk. They're gonna ring it up. Okay, So the

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Speaker 1: Max Crosby deal sounded like a great deal, and then

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Speaker 1: suddenly people are saying, well, Eric Takosta the Raven GM

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Speaker 1: he got cold feet. Well Max didn't pass his physical

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Speaker 1: and so the deal's off. So people are freaking out.

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Speaker 1: And my takeaway is, if I was the Raiders, hey,

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Speaker 1: I'd stay on the phone Chicago Bear. But if I

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Speaker 1: had to take him back, I'd take him back. People

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Speaker 1: break up all the time. I mean, Dak just broke

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Speaker 1: happens all the time. Last year, Miles Garrett's like, get

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Speaker 1: his best year as a Cleveland Brown. Stuff happens. Listen, Max,

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Speaker 1: this has been talked about. This deal been talked about

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Speaker 1: for six months, so it didn't catch Max off guard.

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Speaker 3: Max is a pro.

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Speaker 1: The Ravens offered two first round picks, Max and Dumb.

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Speaker 1: It's a great deal, especially at Max's age. He got

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Speaker 1: dinged up last year. Everybody in the room loved Max.

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Speaker 1: Max had a fifteen minute, you know, soliloquy. He went

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Speaker 1: out there after getting traded and said how much he

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Speaker 1: loved the Raiders, and the Raiders loved him, And you know,

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Speaker 1: people break up all the time. It happens. By the way,

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Speaker 1: the Raiders are a better team, or at least a

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Speaker 1: better roster than they were the day they traded Max.

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Speaker 1: So as Max Crosby, I don't know. I wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: a going back. So the Chicago Bears still need a

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Speaker 1: pass rusher. Raiders should get on the phone, and they're

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Speaker 1: not going to get two firsts. Maybe they get a

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Speaker 1: got nothing but time. All I know is this Max

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Speaker 1: Crosby next year is going to be highly effective, disruptive,

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Speaker 3: I would want them on my football team.

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Speaker 1: The other thing is, and I had said this, I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't have traded Max. But once I got two first

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Speaker 1: round offers, then it's a deal. But the Raiders have

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Speaker 1: eleven picks. So the Raiders are going to be so young.

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Speaker 1: Max is one of their only veteran stars. Colton Miller,

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Speaker 1: the left tackle who got digged up last year, he's

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Speaker 3: If Max came back and they.

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Speaker 1: Couldn't find a trade partner, I mean, the whole team

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Speaker 1: spy tech. Clearly, he knows what he's doing. They're getting very,

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Speaker 1: very young, and so I think it's okay keeping Max

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Speaker 1: Crosby or getting him back, But I mean you say well,

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Speaker 1: I mean they broke up.

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Speaker 3: It's weird.

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Speaker 1: It's odd again, it's not in season. People go off,

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Speaker 1: they go to Costa Rica, they work out. Then he's

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Speaker 1: not going to rookie camps and rookie symposiums. He'll show

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Speaker 1: up if he's a Raider, and he'll be a relentless

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Speaker 1: pass rusher in a great division. So here was Max

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Speaker 3: I bleed silver and black. That'll never change. And I'm

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Speaker 3: a raided for life, and I truly want to finish

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Speaker 3: when it's all said and done, you know, in a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I see no bitterness. People break up, they get

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Speaker 3: This is the way the world works.

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Speaker 1: And all I know is Max Crosby next year, I'd

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Speaker 1: love to have him on my football team. I still

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Speaker 1: I thought the Bears were a better fit than Baltimore

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Speaker 1: because Baltimore's got to pay. Lamar Jackson wants a new deal,

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Speaker 1: and Caleb's still on that rookie deal. So I thought

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Speaker 1: if you really, if you're the Raiders, you'd prefer to

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Speaker 1: not trade him in conference, certainly not in the vision.

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Speaker 1: So shipping him off to the Bears to me was

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Speaker 1: a great fit. You're not gonna get to first. Can

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Speaker 3: Whatever?

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Speaker 1: That's where we are today. And Jamack, I know, Jmack,

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Speaker 1: you know we talk. We've been talking about the Lebron

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Speaker 1: I think Jamax coming around on this is that nobody

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Speaker 1: I argue this yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Nobody is arguing.

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Speaker 1: That Jaden McDaniels of the t Wolves is a better

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Speaker 3: But I said this yesterday. If you just.

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Speaker 1: Swap them on their teams, the Lakers would be a

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Speaker 1: better team with Jayden McDaniels because he's a catch and

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Speaker 1: which at this point Lebron isn't. So Lebron did not

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Speaker 1: play again last night, and for the second time in

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Speaker 1: like three days, the Lakers beat a really good team.

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Speaker 3: They're now ten and two.

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Speaker 1: When Luca and Austin are playing and Lebron's not. That

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Speaker 1: is not a shot at Lebron. It is a fit

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Speaker 1: in an age thing. And I know, you know, I

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Speaker 3: X coming around.

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Speaker 5: Wait a minute, let's not make this you're ray. This

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Speaker 5: is not about Lebron's slander, right, this is just a

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Speaker 5: fit situation, like they've tried it most of this season.

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Speaker 5: Reeves people were injured.

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Speaker 1: And now, Yeah, Carl Anthony Towns is a very gifted

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Speaker 1: offensive player. I don't think with Brunson Jalen Brunson's defensive limitations,

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Speaker 1: it's a perfect postseason fit.

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Speaker 3: But on any given night, Kat can.

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Speaker 1: Give you thirty two points and look like the best

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Speaker 1: player in the world. He's a great offensive play By.

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Speaker 5: The way, Austin Reeves kind of unlocked now with the

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Speaker 5: ball in his hands more. He looked tremendous last night,

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Speaker 5: and Anthony Edwards a quote unquote face of the NBA.

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Speaker 5: He struck for fifteen Yep, he struck as a back baby.

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Speaker 3: It was a.

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Speaker 1: Wild night in sports, I mean Italy, the baseball team

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Speaker 1: USA Obam, I'm gonna buy you at eighty three points,

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Speaker 1: Welcome back. What a nutty Tuesday night. I'm sitting here

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Speaker 1: They're playing much harder defensively and a lot of you

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Speaker 2: This is the herd Line news, all.

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Speaker 5: Right, let's get started with the Indianapolis Colts. They made

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Speaker 3: Show so mighty.

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Speaker 5: He has had a lot of injurial.

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Speaker 5: As I wish that has not been broken down yet.

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Speaker 5: I don't Colin just because he had a good eight games.

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Speaker 1: We're going for it, which I'm not opposed to.

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Speaker 5: I like that, but Colin, when you get aggressive, you've

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Speaker 5: in the division behind Houston and Jacksonville.

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Speaker 1: And remember they have Jonathan Taylor, Tyler Warren, Alec Pierce,

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Speaker 1: so they're not desperate at wide receiver. They're pretty thin

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Speaker 1: after their number one guy. But I don't worry about

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Speaker 1: them scoring points.

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 1: I just think in that division, Jacksonville's offense is better

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Speaker 1: and the Texans defense is better.

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Speaker 5: And Tennessee is coming up hard with two good coaches

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Speaker 5: who we like in Sala and Dable. If I could

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Speaker 5: take a flyer Colts finished last in the division, I

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Speaker 5: might do it. Now. That's not hating, it's just reality

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Speaker 5: and gambling. All right, Let's move on to Team USA Colin.

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Speaker 5: This one was a tough one the stomach. They fall

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Speaker 5: into an eight eight zero hole against Italy and lose

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Speaker 5: eight to six. Aaron Judge was the tying run at

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Speaker 5: the plate struck out. Obviously that USA's chances of advancing

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Speaker 5: have gone down. It's all eyes on tonight's Italy Mexico

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Speaker 5: matchup sevent Eastern on FS one. If you want, if

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Speaker 5: you want the US to advance, Italy has to beat Mexico.

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Speaker 3: That's happening. That's not happening.

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Speaker 5: Well, don't Italy just beat the US?

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Speaker 3: But what would not happen?

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Speaker 5: Come on, I don't even know who throw who's pitching

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Speaker 5: tonight for Italy or or Colin And this is a

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Speaker 5: little confusing. Mexico needs to score at least five runs.

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Speaker 3: Can they do that against Italy?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah they can do that.

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Speaker 5: So Italy win or Mexico wins, and Mexico's roasb.

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Speaker 1: Benji Gill, the manager for Mexico, said his favorite thing.

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Speaker 3: In the world.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't his children, it was facing America in the

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Speaker 1: World Baseball Classic final, So I mean he was joking,

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Speaker 1: but like, if they were going to score some extra

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Speaker 1: runs out a few, they would do it against Italy.

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Speaker 5: So had a team I didn't. Did you know they

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Speaker 5: had a good teach?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 5: Had you. How many of those guys have you heard of?

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Speaker 3: Not many? The manager? That's it.

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Speaker 5: I mean again, World Baseball Classic has been awesome.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I'll let you come down hard on Team USA, Colin,

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Speaker 5: this would be a colossal disappointment.

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Speaker 3: Well let's just see, let's let's let it play out.

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Speaker 5: But not to have it in your hands to get

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Speaker 5: the win tonight. I mean, I'll be watching tonight because

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Speaker 5: we need the USA to advance. No, but like all

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Speaker 5: the talk was, oh Tawny Judge Skiing's on it, and

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Speaker 5: we got followed to it. Eight nothing all against the Italians.

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Speaker 5: All right, bro, come on, if this were Team USA basketball,

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Speaker 5: you would be crucifying them. Final story, cod We got

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Speaker 5: to talk to the Cowboys because they want to wedge

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Speaker 5: their way into the Max two ex Crosby story. So

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Speaker 5: that Max Crosby back on the table. Raiders are putting

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Speaker 5: it out. We still want to first Well, Dallas was interested,

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Speaker 5: but apparently they will not re engage and go for Crosby.

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Speaker 5: Jane Slater of the NFL Network said they've moved on

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Speaker 5: with Rashan Gary. Listen, Colin, I don't I don't really

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Speaker 5: know this physical situation with them.

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Speaker 3: The Cowboys now don't need him.

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Speaker 1: They've got Kenny Clark, Gary Over shown, Quinn Williams. They

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Speaker 1: don't they don't need an edge rusher. That's not what

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Speaker 1: they need. And they also have two first round picks.

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Speaker 1: Dallas is fine defensively up front, they're they're above fine,

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Speaker 1: they're actually pretty good, and they need an honor and

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Speaker 1: a safety in the first round. Go get Caleb Downs

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Speaker 1: and in the corner from Tennessee.

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Speaker 3: Those are your picks.

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Speaker 5: So this is what's interesting. We know Dallas is used

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Speaker 5: as kind of in any trade talk. Well, Dallas is interested,

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Speaker 5: and they're gonna pawn, thank you very much. Dallas is interested.

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Speaker 5: Dallas is now putting it out there. We're not interested, guy,

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Speaker 5: that's right, we don't want it. So there's no way

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Speaker 5: they're getting two ones. And there's a report from Rapaport that, like,

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Speaker 5: I don't know, this was a pretty major surgery. Crosby

508
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Speaker 5: was on crutches until like last week, and so you

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Speaker 5: show up to a physical, well, obviously it's not gonna

510
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Speaker 5: look good. I don't think they're gonna sniff two ones

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Speaker 5: for Crosby. You can't even get a one into two

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Speaker 5: for him if you is he damaged goods coming off?

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Speaker 1: I know if you could get if you could get

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Speaker 1: a three and a four. The Raiders have eleven picks.

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Speaker 1: They've got a first, a second, a third, three fourths,

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Speaker 1: two fives, two six. By the way, when you have

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Speaker 1: three fours, you can turn that into another second or

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Speaker 1: a third round pick.

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Speaker 3: So the Raiders are fine.

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Speaker 1: They've got they got draft capital, They've upgraded their roster.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna get their quarterback. They have an offensive coach,

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Speaker 1: they have stars at left tackle, tight end, and running back.

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Speaker 3: Raiders are gonna be fine.

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Speaker 5: Raiders are fine. Is Max Crosby gonna be fine? Demanded

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Speaker 5: a trade and now he's got a turntail walk back

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Speaker 5: into the building.

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Speaker 1: If he gets traded in an hour to the Bears.

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Speaker 1: Max Crosby is gonna have a great last four years

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Speaker 1: in the pro football.

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Speaker 5: You think the Bear. The Bears are not going to

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Speaker 5: go for him offering a third and fourth right, They're

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Speaker 5: gonna have to pony up a lot. I mean, the

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Speaker 5: Raiders just lost all the leverage. Islands feel bad for them,

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Speaker 5: Spytech Brady, They'll be fine. Can we get Brady on

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Speaker 5: the show to get reaction to this?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Let's got work on it, guys. Jmack with the news.

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Speaker 2: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the

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Speaker 2: herd Line News.

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Speaker 1: There is a clear distinction by what is tolerated in

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Speaker 1: pro football in the NBA. I prefer the football culture

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Speaker 1: in America. Play hard in high school, hard coached in college,

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Speaker 1: hard coached in pro football. Uh, not about the individual.

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Speaker 1: It's a wee business, not a me business. But this

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Speaker 1: is interesting. So the Eagles agreed to a one year

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Speaker 1: deal with a sensational talent from Seattle, Tarik wool And.

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Speaker 1: He's a corner, one year, fifteen million dollar deal. So

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Speaker 1: this guy is six four two ten. Everybody in the

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Speaker 1: league wants long, tall, fast corners. He's one of the

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Speaker 1: five best in terms of traits. He walked in out

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Speaker 1: of college. I think he was like, had six picks

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Speaker 1: as a rookie minute Pro Bowl.

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Speaker 3: He's unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: And why isn't everybody out for him? Why did Daniel

555
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,360
Speaker 1: Jones just on a huge contract. And there's no market

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Speaker 1: for Kyler Murray because Tarik Woolan has discipline issues and

557
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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray has commitment phobia. And in the NBA, you

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Speaker 1: can hang around forever, not be a good teammate, be

559
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Speaker 1: kind of a goofball. Gilbert Arenas eleven years, his talent,

560
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Speaker 1: everybody looked the other way. James Harden seventeen years, won't

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Speaker 1: play DP. Is he in good shape? Not always the

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Speaker 1: best teammate, Nobody cares. He's got talent. In the NFL,

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Speaker 1: talent does not make you immune to accountability. And Tariq

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Speaker 1: Woolden's a really talented player. I mean he is a

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Speaker 1: long I think he ran in the combine like a

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Speaker 1: four to two six point forty, just a burner, but

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Speaker 1: he went lower because he transitioned from wide receiver to

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Speaker 1: corner in college. Another example is George Pickens. George Pickens

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Speaker 1: was unnguardable in Georgia, goes to Pittsburgh, they move off him.

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Speaker 1: He goes to Dallas, tears the league up this year

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Speaker 1: and what does he get a one year deal with

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys?

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Speaker 3: Why?

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Speaker 1: Maturity issues? So Jalen Ramsey, by the way, Rams moved

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Speaker 1: off him. Why in his prime? Why he was kind

576
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Speaker 1: of doing his own thing a little too often. So

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Speaker 1: that's this is one area where I prefer the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Stefawn Diggs last three teams traded, traded, cutt

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Speaker 1: so and and I think that's is it really That's

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Speaker 1: part of the NFL culture which relates so well to

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Speaker 1: consumers and fans, is that if you're not a good teammate,

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Speaker 1: or you're undisciplined, or you're not really committed, or you

583
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Speaker 1: do dumb stuff even though you're really talented, oh, it

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Speaker 1: will cost you in the wallet. In the NBA, it doesn't.

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Speaker 1: Among their many problems, it doesn't. In fact, you may

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Speaker 1: call up the next day at four o'clock and say

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Speaker 1: I've got an ice cream headache, I don't want to play,

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Speaker 1: and they'll give you a pass. I mean, that's just

589
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Speaker 1: the reality of the culture. In Chicago, it's the Herd.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

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Speaker 2: and noone Easter not a im Pacific.

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Speaker 5: Since Square Garden agains tomorrow on Fox and FS one.

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Speaker 1: All right, cal Rawley, great casher for the Mariners, has

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Speaker 1: a teammate for the Mariners, Randy Rose Arena, but they

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Speaker 1: play on different teams at the World Baseball Classic, And

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Speaker 1: when Randy Rosarina came to the plate a couple of

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Speaker 1: days ago, cal Raley wouldn't acknowledge it.

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Speaker 3: Okay, we have some video of it, and.

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Speaker 1: Rose Aarina was furious and after the game he went

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Speaker 1: on outraged how ticked off he was.

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Speaker 3: You can see it's kind of uncomfortable.

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Speaker 1: But this reminds me of the nineteen eighty Herb Brooks

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Speaker 1: Lake Placid Olympian team. Is that Herb Brooks for months

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Speaker 1: tried to blow up alliances. He's like, I don't care

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Speaker 1: if you're friends. I don't care if your rivals. We're

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Speaker 1: going to create a singular unit in Lake Placid. And

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Speaker 1: so good friends, some got cut, some made the team,

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Speaker 1: rivals in college became teammates. Well, the World Baseball Classic,

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Speaker 1: you're not getting guys for ten weeks. So I think

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Speaker 1: what happens in the Olympics, Kobe, remember when Kobe Bryant

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Speaker 1: went after Pau Gasol in the two thousand and eight Olympics.

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Speaker 1: It's like, you can look it up. The language is

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Speaker 1: a bit profane for television. But Kobe in the first

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Speaker 1: possessions like, I'm going to blankety blank right through his chest,

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Speaker 1: And that's the Olympics, and that's the World Baseball Classic,

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Speaker 1: and that's the world club. You and your boys can

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Speaker 1: be mates for Liverpool in the English Premier League World Cup,

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Speaker 1: your enemies.

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Speaker 3: So here is cal.

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Speaker 1: Rawley explaining the alleged beef with his Mariner teammate in

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Speaker 1: the World Baseball Class.

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Speaker 3: I hate that.

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Speaker 4: This is the thing.

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Speaker 8: There's no beef when we get back to Seattle. He's

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Speaker 8: my brother or family. Yeah, I already reached out to him,

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Speaker 8: so uh, you know, it's just a competitive environment. And

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Speaker 8: you know, I know he would want the same for

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Speaker 8: me when we're on the team in playoff baseball. And

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Speaker 8: you know, I just have a responsibility for my teammates

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Speaker 8: here right now in my country, and emotions a running high.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The truth is cal Rawley is sitting there and his

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Speaker 1: teammates in the dugout are watching, and he's cal Rawley

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Speaker 1: is sending the message, guys, I'm all in on this.

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Speaker 1: I'm taking it seriously. And so you know, you hear

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Speaker 1: a lot about pro athletes. They don't care, they don't

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Speaker 1: care if they win. It's all about the money. Now

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Speaker 1: it's not. I watched the Olympics, I watched the World

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Speaker 1: Baseball Classic.

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Speaker 3: This is a great exam.

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Speaker 1: Ample of country flag over team, even if you're great friends.

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Speaker 3: Randy A. Rose he discussed. He just can't even he

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Speaker 3: bends over. He's like, what, we're not boys?

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Speaker 1: What?

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Speaker 3: No, not, now, we're not so the Ravens. And there's

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Speaker 3: a lot.

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Speaker 1: Of people out there whispering, uh, saying the quiet part

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Speaker 1: out loud. The Ravens got cold feet on the Max

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Speaker 1: Crosby deal, and uh, you know, the Raiders got a

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Speaker 1: couple of ones, and the reaction was largely although I

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Speaker 1: didn't necessarily agree that the Ravens over paid for him. Well,

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Speaker 1: my take is the Ravens did not generate over the

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Speaker 1: last couple of years fourth quarter sacks, and over the

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Speaker 1: last five years, the Ravens have blown more fourth quarter

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Speaker 1: leads than anybody else in the sport. So they needed

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Speaker 1: a closer. It was like a team with a great

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Speaker 1: starting staff and a bad bullpen. They couldn't close. And

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Speaker 1: so they got Max Crosby. And do you want to

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Speaker 1: give up two ones? You'd probably rather give up a

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Speaker 1: one in a two or a one in a three.

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Speaker 1: Two ones is pretty rich. But I mean, the Colts

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Speaker 1: gave up two ones for sasce Gardner, and I think

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Speaker 1: mass Crosby has far more impact in football games than

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Speaker 1: sas Gardner, and so they go out. Now, the Ravens

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Speaker 1: went and got Trey Hendrickson, who's thirty years old. He's

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Speaker 1: not as good as Max Crosby, but Trey Hendrickson's a

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Speaker 1: very good football player. But what's interesting to me what's

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Speaker 1: happening in the NFL is that there are two groups

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. Really good teams are falling into two groups.

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Speaker 1: There's either the really very good teams in the NFL

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Speaker 1: that are young. That's the Seahawks, Denver, the Patriots, the Packers,

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Speaker 1: the Rams, and the Chicago Bears. They're very good teams.

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Speaker 1: And I would say Houston, Texans fall into this very

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Speaker 1: good teams and young. And then there's this group of

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Speaker 1: very good teams that are getting in my opinion, too old,

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Speaker 1: Kansas City, San Francisco, Detroit's getting close in Baltimore and

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Speaker 1: so and what did Baltimore do sign a thirty year

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Speaker 1: old pass rusher, And what did San Francisco do sign

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Speaker 1: Mike Evans a thirty year old wide receiver off an

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Speaker 1: injury year? And what did Kansas City do retain Travis

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Speaker 1: Kelcey at thirty seven years old? All good players, not

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Speaker 1: disputing that, but there's two problems with being an older team.

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Speaker 1: Number one, This is real obvious. Your guys get hurt more.

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Speaker 1: But the second problem in the NFL season is now

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Speaker 1: seventeen games long, and it's probably going to extend to eighteen.

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Speaker 1: You'll want to be young. So the first problem is

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Speaker 1: old teams get hurt more. The second problem is when

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Speaker 1: they do get hurt, they heal more slowly. You know,

689
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 1: Jason Tatum, everybody's like, oh, he's out for the year.

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Speaker 1: Young guys heal fast. They always come back months in advance.

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Speaker 1: So and the other thing is, if you go look

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Speaker 1: at the history of Super Bowl champion teams, almost as

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Speaker 1: a rule, your seven best players are are either in

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Speaker 1: their prime or going into their prime. That's the Seahawks,

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Speaker 1: that's last year's Philadelphia Eagles, that's the year before's Kansas

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Speaker 1: City Chiefs. Chris Jones still felt like he was in

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Speaker 1: his prime. Mahomes was going into his prime. He felt

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Speaker 1: like he had a lot of players two three years

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Speaker 1: ago with Kansas City in their prime going into it.

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Speaker 1: And now with Kansas City Chris Jones out of his

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Speaker 1: prime and Kenneth Walker.

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Speaker 3: Who they signed.

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Speaker 1: He's a running back, so he's probably actually moving out

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Speaker 1: of his prime, and Travis Kelsey's out of his prime,

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Speaker 1: and so I think I think although he is coming

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Speaker 1: off an injury, Mahomes is still now mid to late prime.

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Speaker 1: So when I start looking at Baltimore, Kansas City, San Francisco,

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Speaker 1: and kind of Detroit, I feel like in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: you want to win super Bowls, you need more rookies

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Speaker 1: than relics.

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Speaker 3: You need more greatness and grayness.

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Speaker 1: And I kind of feel like Baltimore and with Hendrik Sen,

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Speaker 1: And I mean, if you're gonna get an older guy,

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Speaker 1: then get the best old guy on the market, and

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Speaker 1: that would be Max Crosby.

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Speaker 3: So that's kind of where I stand today.

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Speaker 1: Is jmck Is there anything trickling out with free agency today?

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Speaker 1: I think generally Monday and Tuesday clear of the decks.

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Speaker 1: I think they'll be lower end signing now.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the big one remains Colin Kyler Murray. It's just

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Speaker 5: like what Minnesota's like. Is there anyone else? I mean

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Speaker 5: that seems to me be where we are right He's

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Speaker 5: the biggest name left. Obviously most people care about quarterbacks.

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Speaker 5: I'm just surprised there's zero interest. I wonder if there's

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Speaker 5: other stuff we don't know about.

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Speaker 1: It's what's really interesting with Kyler Murray. And I talked

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00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: about this fifteen minutes ago or ten minutes ago, that

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Speaker 1: in the NFL, you will be held accountable for immaturity,

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00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 1: lack of commitment. Like Tarik wooland great player, I means

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Speaker 1: tremendous talent, but about once every other game he makes

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Speaker 1: a decision and it's like, you know, Seattle's if Seattle's

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Speaker 1: let if you're six four two ten and run a

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Speaker 1: sub four four and you're a corner and you get

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Speaker 1: a one year offer, is there anybody in your social

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00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 1: circle telling you, bro, this is gonna hurt you, like

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. Here's my question. When Kyler Murray's doing the

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Speaker 1: video games and Kyler Murray's getting called out, I mean,

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Speaker 1: look at some of these guys.

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Speaker 3: Who have signed.

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Speaker 1: Look at one Dale Robinson, he's got he had multiple

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00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 1: teams coming after him, including the Giants. He has a

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Speaker 1: more active market than Tarik Woolen. How the hell does

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Speaker 1: that make sense? Kyler Malik Willis, who has six starts,

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00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 1: has a significantly more robust market than Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 3: What does that tell you? Tarik?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, look at it, Tarik Wollen at the combine. I

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Speaker 1: was right, forty two inch vertical six or two six

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Speaker 1: forty no market? How is it possible? This goes back

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Speaker 1: to Jalen Ramsey when the Rams let him see the door.

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Speaker 1: He was kind of doing his own thing too often

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Speaker 1: and they got rid of him. So like I look

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Speaker 1: at Kyler Murray as I always wonder this in the NBA,

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00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 1: it won't hurt you. Talent supersedes everything, but in pro football, like,

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Speaker 1: who is in your social circle for Kyler Murray saying bro?

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00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 1: Like Johnny Manziel. Remember at some point during Johnny manziel

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00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,919
Speaker 1: rookie year, like a parent came out, like his dad

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00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 1: or somebody came out and said, he's lost. He's not

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00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 1: going to listen to us. And I mean that was

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00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 1: a signal to the rest of the league is he's unhinged.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, Kyler Murray for years there were commitment issues.

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Speaker 1: Did he never address it? Did anybody in his social

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Speaker 1: circle raise his hand and go, Bro, you're gonna kill

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Speaker 1: yourself in the open market.

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Speaker 5: You can't do that or you'll get kicked out of

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Speaker 5: the social circle, and then you can't get the free

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Speaker 5: ride for hanging with Kyler and the cars and the

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Speaker 5: dinners and all trips to Vegas. Like that's how it worked.

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Speaker 5: You know you're in my circle. You can't criticize me.

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Speaker 5: You can't critique me. They don't want that Colin.

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Speaker 1: So in the NFL, being a good guy matters. Malik

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00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 1: willis legendarily, legendarily great kid, great kid, multiple offers. He

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Speaker 1: has six pro starts, multiple offers, six pro stars. By

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Speaker 1: the way, Tua is a good guy. The Atlanta Falcons

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Speaker 1: are talking to Tua.

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Speaker 5: How about the Jets going after Gino Smith. Let's bring

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Speaker 5: Geno Smith back? Wellino last year, Kirk Cousins unplayable.

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Speaker 1: So it is interesting when Tarik Woolan and Kyler Murray,

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Speaker 1: these are really, really sensationally talented athletes and there's no

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Speaker 1: market for him. I mean that this is the signal

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Speaker 1: for all you agents out there and all you parents

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Speaker 1: out there. You go be a basketball player. It won't

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Speaker 1: matter in the NFL. I mean Tarik Woolan is to me, he.

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Speaker 5: Fell off a little last year. His play fell off

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Speaker 5: a little bit. They have young guys who are cheaper,

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Speaker 5: real quick. The other one that under the radar, Patriots

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00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 5: were linked to aj Brown Forever Patriots just went and

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00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,720
Speaker 5: got Romeo Dobbs, so that takes them out of AJ Brown,

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00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 5: Like Romeo Dobbs is gonna be the guy that gotten paid.

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Speaker 5: I just wonder is A. J. Brown going to be

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Speaker 5: back in Philly next year? I don't know where else

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00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 5: he could land. I find a spot again. I think

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Speaker 5: AJ Brown and I don't think again. Not saying he's

793
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,720
Speaker 5: a bad guy, but how many people are calling Howie Roseman?

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Speaker 5: I mean, how many you need a trade part? We

795
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 5: can say, why won't Philly get rid of him? Who's offering?

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00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 5: Could could Max Crosby go to Philly and then aj

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00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:36,879
Speaker 5: in some kind of deal.

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Speaker 1: Crosby is one of the most respected, well liked players

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Speaker 1: in the last twenty years in the league, so somebody's

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Speaker 1: going to go get him. He is great for the locker.

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00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 1: He's all about team winning, toughness, play through injuries. So

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00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 1: he'll have a huge market. That's that's more of a

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00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:54,439
Speaker 1: passing a physical thing.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 1: Albert Breer is stopping by an hour number two. We're

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Speaker 1: live in chicag I go.

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Speaker 3: It's the hurd

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