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That's EYL you 32 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 8: n I V E R s I t Y dot com. 33 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 4: See there there's no standing together. It's divided. 34 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 9: Black people are the ones that criticizing black community support Kyrie. 35 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 9: Are prominent black journalists television publicly denouncing him. 36 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 10: There is a certain power that media does have, and 37 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 10: there are certain forces demand certain responses to certain things. 38 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 4: All right, guys, welcome back e y L. 39 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 9: We are in New York and we have a very 40 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:22,679 Speaker 9: very very special episode. We have some conversation off air, yes, 41 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 9: that could have turned into a whole hour conversation within itself. 42 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 4: So I said, we got to save something for us. 43 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 7: We've had a lot of conversations about these topics. 44 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 9: For sure, so should tell you Riley Irving is actually 45 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 9: made history by and correct me if I'm wrong. But 46 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 9: you are the first black woman to negotiate an NBA contract. Yes, ever, 47 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 9: I believe so, yeah, gradually, And I also believe I 48 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 9: think that you're the only black woman right now with 49 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 9: an NBA client as an. 50 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 4: Agent, active player, active player currently. 51 00:02:58,440 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 2: Unless somebody signed somebody in the least. 52 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 5: But yeah, okay, blazing, so you know, but it didn't start. 53 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 9: We didn't start their x VP at Black Enterprise, a 54 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 9: black BT, Black Entertainment Television. 55 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 2: I was actually senior vice president. I have to because 56 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:17,519 Speaker 2: we don't always get our sure. 57 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 4: Sure, senior vice president at BT. 58 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 9: And now is the CEO of all even all even 59 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 9: all even all even. 60 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 7: So it has the A then the number eleven, but 61 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 7: it's puttingnounced all even. 62 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 9: Okay, And your client is none other than one of 63 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 9: the greatest of all time. 64 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 5: And we're going to say that very comfortably. One of 65 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 5: the greatest of all time. I don't care what number 66 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 5: y'all put him. He's in the conversation and he should 67 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 5: be on the list Kyrie to make our own list 68 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 5: for sure. 69 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 9: Kyrie Irving, So you represent one of the greatest athletes 70 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 9: of all time and somebody who has become a cultural 71 00:03:56,120 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 9: figure outside of the game of basketball for our different 72 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 9: reasons that we'll get into, but it's a tremendous story 73 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 9: of switching gears from corporate America to becoming a sports 74 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 9: agent to working with one of the most successful and 75 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 9: a lot of times misunderstood athletes of our generation who 76 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 9: make a lot of money. Had a very public dispute 77 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 9: with Nike, the biggest sneak of brand in history. So 78 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 9: there's a lot to talk about you being a black 79 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 9: woman in the sports world, and you were gracious enough 80 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 9: to come to invest Best, So thank you for that. 81 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 9: How wish your experience that Investments I loved it. 82 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:41,919 Speaker 10: I am all about supporting my people, So when the 83 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 10: opportunity came, I was like, I absolutely will be there. 84 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 10: I'm all about how can I help uplift your platform, 85 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 10: help you be seen. So in whatever capacity I'm there. 86 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 7: We appreciate you being there. 87 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 4: Thank you. 88 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 2: Thanks for having me think it was amazing. I mean 89 00:04:58,640 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 2: just seeing. 90 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 10: That many people of color with a quest to understand 91 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 10: finances and money and investment and success. 92 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 2: It just it made my. 93 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 4: Heart really full appreciate that. Thank you. So all right, 94 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 4: well let's get into this. 95 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 9: So well talk about you being an agent, but let's 96 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 9: talk about when you were a senior executive at BT. 97 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 9: So what was your role at BT and how did 98 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 9: you climb up the ranks to reach that level. 99 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 10: So at BT, I was senior vice president of ad sales. 100 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 10: I managed our digital platform and so it's all about 101 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 10: selling and convincing. 102 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 2: People that people of color mattered. 103 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 10: And that they should invest their advertising dollars across be 104 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 10: et Digital. And so I spent about two fourteen fifteen 105 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 10: years with BT. I started as a salesperson. I remember 106 00:05:55,880 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 10: the first day that I walked in. They gave me PNG, Walmart, 107 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 10: Coca Cola and said, okay, go for it. And I 108 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 10: always tell people in my meanness, honestly it was the 109 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 10: best PhD, master's degree, NBA post doctorial education that I got. 110 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 10: And just being under Lewis and Ray and just having 111 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 10: this opportunity to be seen and to learn. So it's 112 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 10: just an amazing experience. 113 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 5: So that that says a lot, right, Like they're giving 114 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 5: you some of the top brands in the world in 115 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:36,919 Speaker 5: the world, so you have to learn. I mean, sales 116 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 5: can be grueling and if you don't move your feet, 117 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 5: it's tough to eat. So what was that like for you? 118 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 5: What did you learn about negotiating and making sure that 119 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 5: we are seen right, because a lot of times we 120 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 5: look at these brands and we don't see us. But 121 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 5: over the past maybe five or six years, we're starting 122 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 5: to see a little bit of change. We've seen some 123 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 5: deals that they's made. What was that like early stages? 124 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 2: Early stages. 125 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 10: I came from an environment that at because I've always 126 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 10: been in sales, so my entire career was in some 127 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 10: level of media sales. And early stages, it was like 128 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 10: I was walking into this environment that looked like me, 129 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 10: and that was very, very different from any of the 130 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 10: other media sales positions that I had. Lewis is President 131 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 10: of sales. You don't see that. As a black man. 132 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 10: Ray was EVP of sales, you don't see that. I 133 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 10: saw vice presidents that looked like me. So it was 134 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 10: that first opportunity that Okay, I'm in something special, And 135 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 10: for me, it was really about putting my head down 136 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 10: and learning as much as I possibly could. So I 137 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 10: literally was a sponge. I would raise my hand and 138 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 10: ask questions. I was never afraid. My thing is talked 139 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 10: to me. 140 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 2: Like I'm three. 141 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 10: I will not be offended because I never had the 142 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 10: ego to walk in and say that I knew it all, 143 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 10: or that I had enough experience to dictate how you 144 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 10: should interact with me. I was like, there's no ego here, 145 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 10: I know nothing about this business. 146 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 4: Teach me. 147 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 10: And so they were gracious enough to teach me, and 148 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 10: they were gracious enough to demand that everybody else teach. 149 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 10: And that was what that environment really was. It was grueling. 150 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 10: It was not this nine to five because we super 151 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 10: served a consumer that was so important, and it was 152 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 10: black and brown people, and so it was really about us. 153 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 10: We had the largest repository of consumer insights about black 154 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 10: people on the planet. If you wanted to know how 155 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 10: black people ate, what they did, how they did it, 156 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 10: when they did, BET was that place to learn about it. 157 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 10: And so our job was really to be missionaries and 158 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,199 Speaker 10: to go out and to educate because there were all 159 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 10: of these preconceived notions of black people can't afford this, Yes, 160 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 10: yeah they can. Black people aren't interested in this. They're 161 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 10: not interested in investment. 162 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 2: Yes they are. 163 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 10: They're raising their hand right now and saying teach me, 164 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 10: show me. And you saw it yourself invest Best. You 165 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 10: had thousand what was it, twenty thousand people show up 166 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 10: because they wanted to learn, right, So imagine if you 167 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 10: had every financial company, every investment company invest and invest Best, 168 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 10: what their return on investment would have been from these 169 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 10: people that are like, I'm raising my hand, teach me. 170 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 10: And that was something that we had to do within 171 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 10: the confines of beet and really showcased that that black 172 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 10: and brown audience was an important audience. 173 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 9: So how did you convince the corporate that it was 174 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 9: in their best interest to, you know, invest dollars not 175 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 9: only like as a charity thing, but as like a 176 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 9: good investment. 177 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 2: Never is charity because we're not a charity case. 178 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 4: But that's a lot of people look at it like that. 179 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, we went in, We went in with research. 180 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 10: We went in and we talked about we influenced trends, 181 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 10: and that's it. At the end of the day, we 182 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 10: influence trends. If you want your business to soar, this 183 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:02,079 Speaker 10: is how your business saw And we demanded top dollar 184 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 10: and it was really you had you had an army 185 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:10,439 Speaker 10: of people behind you that were unapologetic and what we 186 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 10: demanded advertisers do and engage with with the consumers that 187 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 10: we serve. 188 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:18,199 Speaker 7: How does that work right? 189 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 5: Because there's a number that they have in mind, it's 190 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 5: a number that you have in mind. 191 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 7: But in between, as a negotiation. 192 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 2: It's alli orgreciation. 193 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 5: So what, like, what are some of those those those 194 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 5: key things when we're going into the negotiation that we 195 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 5: should have on our board. 196 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 7: Like we're not moving on this, we're not, but like, 197 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 7: what are some of those things? 198 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 10: I think you have to start first at what's your strategy, 199 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 10: what do you know about the company? What do you 200 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 10: understand about the company? And also what's important to them? 201 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 10: Because at the end of the day, if you want something, 202 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 10: you want to pay for it, but I have to 203 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 10: convince you that you really wanted. So imagine if there's 204 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 10: a car that you want, right, you're going to pay 205 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 10: for it no matter what you want this car and 206 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 10: whether this car is a million dollars, two million dollars, 207 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 10: a thous dollars, two thousand dollars, if you want it, 208 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 10: you're going to pay for it. I just have to 209 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 10: convince you that you wanted So it was coming in 210 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 10: with the strategy. It was coming in with creativity, because 211 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 10: the most creative person gets the biggest house at the 212 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 10: end of the day. And that was the mantra that 213 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 10: we lived by. So we knew that we had to 214 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 10: show you the facts, show you why this audience mattered, 215 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 10: get you to a place where you're like, I want 216 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 10: that audience. Come in with the creativity and show you 217 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,839 Speaker 10: why in this beautiful house or in this beautiful car, 218 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 10: this is why this audience stands out the most. 219 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 2: And then we would get to that price and what 220 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 2: that ultimate rate was. 221 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 10: Now, we didn't always get obviously what we wanted, but 222 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 10: we always settled at a in my mind, a comfortable 223 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 10: space at the end. 224 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 2: Of the day. 225 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 9: So when was the transition from you working at BT 226 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:52,439 Speaker 9: to becoming a sports agent. 227 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 2: That came about? 228 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 10: It was something that I didn't expect, so it wasn't 229 00:11:56,120 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 10: I didn't have high aspirations of I want to go 230 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 10: into sports and do anything in sports. If we talked 231 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:06,839 Speaker 10: five years ago, I would have said, Hey, I want 232 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 10: to be president of a of a media sales organization. 233 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 10: The opportunity to go into sports came from Kai. He 234 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 10: calls me one day and He says, hey, I love 235 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 10: your business acumen. How much would it cost for me 236 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 10: to hire you and have you lead my team? And 237 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 10: I said, you can't afford me? 238 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 2: And he said what what did you just say? 239 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 9: He wants you to lead the team, not represent him, 240 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 9: but just lead his business, represent him and lead his business. 241 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 4: Oh, he wanted you to be his agent. 242 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:40,559 Speaker 2: He wanted me to do everything. 243 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 7: Okay, what timeframe is this? 244 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 2: This was summer of twenty twenty one. 245 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 5: Okay, okay, So he has he's left the Celtics, he's 246 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:51,839 Speaker 5: with Brooklyn, and. 247 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 9: It's important to know we have We didn't actually mention it, 248 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 9: but you guys, if they didn't know about your name, 249 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:57,439 Speaker 9: you're obviously related. 250 00:12:57,559 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 4: He's your bonus son. 251 00:12:58,720 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 2: Correct. 252 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 4: So it's a it's a family business as well. 253 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 10: And that's why I said you can't afford me, because 254 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 10: how do you put a price on a labor of love? 255 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 2: Right? I'm like, this is like being a parent. 256 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 10: You can't say all right, so I raised you, I 257 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 10: put you through elementary, middle school and high school and 258 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:18,679 Speaker 10: you owe me x y Z. 259 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 2: That's not it. And so what I said to him was, hey, 260 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 2: you know. 261 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 10: I can help you. I'll lean in and help you 262 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 10: and provide whatever business acumen that I can. I'm not 263 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 10: the most familiar with sports. It's going to be one 264 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 10: of those situations where it's going to be a little 265 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 10: touch and go. 266 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 7: That's interesting, but I'll do it. So when he proposes 267 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 7: this to you, is it? 268 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 4: Now? 269 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 5: Let me familiarize myself with the game of basketball? What's 270 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 5: sports with contracts? 271 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah? 272 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 7: Like take us through that? 273 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 10: So that was oh lord, let me because now like 274 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:59,319 Speaker 10: I'm I'm watching the game before as Kyrie's my child, 275 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 10: go I read. Now I have to watch the game 276 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 10: from a business perspective. Now I'm looking at contracts. Now 277 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:10,839 Speaker 10: I'm looking at different players and trying to analyze what 278 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 10: their career has been for the last five years, ten years, 279 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 10: What would the successes, what with the failure? So now 280 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 10: I'm deep into the research of really understanding this business 281 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 10: of sports, this business of basketball. 282 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 4: So what all right? 283 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 9: So at first you say that he can't afford you, 284 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 9: but obviously you ended up taking a position. 285 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 4: So when did you decide that you wanted to do it? 286 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 10: After I when you get involved and you really start 287 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 10: to look under the carpet and under the rug and 288 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 10: then the crevices, and you realize, oh, there's some things 289 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 10: that's not right here, and you really start to come 290 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 10: in and change it, and you realize that you can't 291 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 10: be a part time participant. 292 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 9: So you saw things that was happening in his business 293 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 9: world that he was getting taken advantage of, or it 294 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 9: just wasn't optimal. 295 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 2: It just wasn't optimal. 296 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 10: He's been always really smart and really good about business, 297 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 10: but there were just things in terms of representation, how 298 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 10: he was targeted that just did not sit well with me, 299 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 10: Questions that probably weren't properly. 300 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 2: Raised on his behalf. 301 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 10: I felt like he needed, at that moment in time, 302 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 10: a real ally in his in his corner that wasn't 303 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 10: concerned about how much do I make from this, but 304 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 10: really just wanted to see him do well. 305 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 7: Yes, a summer twenty twenty one. 306 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 5: This is post COVID, well in the midst of COVID, 307 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 5: not not post COVID, post the decision I'm not taking 308 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 5: the vaccine right at right at that moment, this is that. 309 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 10: When Yeah, this is when I not his because I 310 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 10: hadn't taken the agent's exam yet, so I was like 311 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 10: the business manager and this is right when the mandate 312 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 10: started to come in where you had to basically take vaccine. 313 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 4: Take the vaccine which unless you. 314 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 10: Unless you lived, is played in other areas. 315 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 5: So I remember he played preseason versus the Golden State Warriors, 316 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 5: but he couldn't play at home in. 317 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 2: New York, couldn't play at home in New York, which would. 318 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 7: Make no sense. 319 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 5: And so at this time the NBA, he's he's not playing, right, 320 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 5: there's a decision here I. 321 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 10: Took right before. So I agreed in like two weeks later. 322 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 2: That's when I was with right in the fire. That's 323 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 2: what I was hit with. 324 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 10: So we just wanted to make sure that you understand 325 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 10: that this mandate just came down and he would need 326 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 10: to be vaccinated in order to play. 327 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 7: On one side. 328 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 5: So it's a lot of things happening at the same 329 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 5: time because at the same time, we're looking maybe long 330 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 5: term extension and now this plays a rule and so 331 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 5: you have to are you having to? I mean, I've 332 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 5: so you're having these conversations, well, you know, if this 333 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 5: a doesn't happen, long term extension could be in jeopardy. 334 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 7: And then some other things transpired. But what what are. 335 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 5: Those conversations like at the time from your understanding, because 336 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 5: this is new to you as well. 337 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 2: It's new to me. 338 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 10: It was first like are you serious, because I really didn't. 339 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:18,679 Speaker 2: I was like, this is. 340 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 10: To both to both to the team and Takai, like 341 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 10: are you serious because I can't believe that this is 342 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 10: happening and what's And there was a lot of confusion 343 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 10: within it because it was but you can you can't 344 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 10: play at home, but you can play in other places, 345 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 10: and you just it was just one of the most 346 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 10: confusing things ever at that time to navigate. And there 347 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 10: was not a rule book or blueprint or anything that said, Okay, 348 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 10: this is how you navigated, and it was difficult. I'm 349 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 10: not gonna because you didn't know what the outcome. 350 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 9: Was going to be, right, So, okay, so you take 351 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 9: the position he doesn't. He decides that he does not 352 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 9: want to get vaccinated. At first, they were kind of 353 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 9: like figuring it out, he played some games, he didn't 354 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 9: play some games. Then to my understanding, correct me if 355 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 9: I'm wrong, the organization kind of took a hard stance 356 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 9: on this, like, look, if you don't get vaccinated, you're 357 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 9: not playing. 358 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 10: They didn't want a part time player, right, so their 359 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 10: objective was they wanted a full time player, and if 360 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 10: he wasn't going to get vaccinated, he wasn't going to 361 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 10: play at all. 362 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 9: And so so then he misses like forty games something 363 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 9: like that. He's getting paid for that though, right, he 364 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 9: didn't get paid for that. So how much money did 365 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 9: he lose that season? 366 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 2: A lot? Let's say that, A. 367 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 9: Lot of money, A lot of money, probably like ten 368 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 9: million dollars a more, no twenty million. 369 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 5: I calculated it before. It was upwards of thirty to 370 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 5: forty million. 371 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 9: Not that much, but he lost a lot, all right, 372 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 9: So well endorsements, Well, so he loses a lot of money. 373 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 9: He ends up actually playing in the playoffs, I believe, right. 374 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 10: Towards the n I want to say, maybe March sometime 375 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 10: they let it. 376 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:12,120 Speaker 9: That's where the mandate was dropped it. So all right, 377 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 9: so in this time when he's not playing, he's losing money. 378 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 9: He becomes public enemy number one, which happens a few 379 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 9: times throughout his career, but he becomes public enemy number one. 380 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 4: Steven A. 381 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:28,439 Speaker 9: Smith had a whole rant against how ignorant he was 382 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 9: for doing it. My question is, like, well, he's going 383 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 9: through all of this, you're representing him, right, but you're 384 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 9: also his mother as well. Yeah, so how is your 385 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 9: conversations with the Brooklyn Nets, if you're having any conversations, 386 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:45,239 Speaker 9: how is your conversations with him as his agent and 387 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 9: his mother, and how is your dealings with his PR team, 388 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,679 Speaker 9: his media team, Like how are you handling all of 389 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 9: this in the midst of the storm? 390 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 10: Day by day? And that's and I'm not going to 391 00:19:57,880 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 10: sugarcoat it. I'm not going to it was a day 392 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 10: by day, was an active, daily. 393 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 2: Conversation action. 394 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:12,239 Speaker 10: One of the things you have to understand is that 395 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 10: we all and I don't know if you guys have children, 396 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 10: but you one of the things you tell your kids 397 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 10: stand up for what you believe in. Never you know, 398 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 10: be a leader and not a follower. And so in 399 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 10: this situation, he's standing. He's doing what you've taught him 400 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 10: to do. I've known since he was eight years old. 401 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 10: And so those are the conversations that you have with 402 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 10: your kids. You're like, hey, stand up for what you 403 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 10: believe in, no matter what, no matter what people say. 404 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:40,439 Speaker 10: And so here it is he's standing up for what 405 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 10: he believes in, and the whole world is creating a 406 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 10: narrative a narrative, a label. It's it's not he's not 407 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:54,199 Speaker 10: a team player, He's not this, he's not that. And 408 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 10: so for me, it was really making sure that he 409 00:20:57,800 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 10: was okay. 410 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:02,679 Speaker 4: I was his spirits, How was his spirits on that tone? 411 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 2: His spirits were good. His spirits were really good. 412 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 10: But I think that as a family, we really came 413 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 10: around and really supported him. And I think that that 414 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 10: was that was the reason why you know, he didn't 415 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 10: go into this this deep depression or anything, because that's 416 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 10: a lot every day to hear your name said based 417 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:27,959 Speaker 10: on the decision that you really yea. 418 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 7: And his name was brought up far more than other 419 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:31,640 Speaker 7: athletes who. 420 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 10: To this day will label like there are other athletes 421 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:38,640 Speaker 10: that did not get vaccinated. 422 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers lied about it, m VP right, Joe Novak 423 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 5: Djokovic number one tennis player probably all the time, same thing, 424 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 5: but nobody had the spotlight on them like. 425 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 7: How I did. 426 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 2: And here's the thing. 427 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 10: If you go through and you look at post interviews, 428 00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 10: you'll see athletes that also refused to get vaccinated. They 429 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,640 Speaker 10: don't have and he was an anti vaxxer or he 430 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:09,959 Speaker 10: refused to get vaccinated attached to their name but with Kai, 431 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,719 Speaker 10: it's and he did this, and he did this, and 432 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 10: he did this, and he did this attached to that, 433 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 10: Like that is the descriptor for him making a decision that. 434 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:21,120 Speaker 2: That I support. 435 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 10: I'm a person that it is your body. You only 436 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 10: get one, and if that is the decision that you make, 437 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,199 Speaker 10: I'm very much a pro choice person. I'm not going 438 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 10: to stand in and say you should do with this 439 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 10: or you should whatever. 440 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 4: Did you this is your body? 441 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 9: Were you were you having conversations with the Brooklyn Nuts. 442 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 4: What were those conversations like. 443 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 2: Just check in? 444 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 9: He just did They never like put pressure or like 445 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 9: tried to give an ultimatum. 446 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 2: Or like I mean, the ultimatum was he didn't get 447 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 2: his extension. So that was the once. 448 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 9: That was off the table even before, cause I think 449 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:01,919 Speaker 9: at some point in time they knew that I is 450 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 9: not going to work out. But I would assume in 451 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 9: the early stages that you still were trying to make 452 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 9: it work. 453 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 4: I would assume, right, yeah. 454 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 10: I mean what I will say is we conversed, and 455 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 10: we talked. I think that when it was very clear 456 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 10: that he wasn't gonna get vaccinated, it was just. 457 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 2: Hey, we're just checking in how's he doing? 458 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 4: So it was Cord, was it? It wasr Yeah. 459 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 5: I can kind of just go backwards for two seconds 460 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 5: because the fact that you became an agent, I mean, 461 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 5: how what was that there? 462 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 10: There's test because we spoke to a few I wasn't 463 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 10: even an agent at that point. 464 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 5: This is what I'm saying, like, at what point did 465 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 5: you the NBA say that you're a registered now to 466 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 5: be agent. 467 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 10: That didn't happen until maybe March or twenty twenty two, 468 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 10: February March or twenty twenty two. 469 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 5: So this is during the time he's almost coming back, 470 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 5: and now you're a registered agent, so you're dealing with 471 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 5: family issue, you're representing him, and now you're working on 472 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,880 Speaker 5: a professional career as well. Right at the point where 473 00:23:59,920 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 5: he's about to come back. 474 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 4: Exactly, Wow, and the agent we just took a test 475 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:07,959 Speaker 4: to think test right, Okay, so you become an agent. 476 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 4: You said that he doesn't get an extension, right, So 477 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 4: now he's a free agent at that point in time. 478 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 2: So yeah, one more year on this contract, which was 479 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:19,120 Speaker 2: an option year. 480 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:20,679 Speaker 4: Yeah he played that yea. 481 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 2: That would have been the twenty two to twenty three 482 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 2: was his option year. 483 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, so he took the option. He played, and then 484 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 5: we traded traded to Dallas. But he got traded mid season. Yeah, yeah, 485 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 5: they got traded. But so as that process is happening, 486 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 5: that's on the court. But Nike, I mean, this is 487 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,919 Speaker 5: a premier athlete. Like we went over, there's obviously Jordan 488 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 5: and Jordan Brand and then it's Kobe and then it's 489 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 5: like Lebronchi KD. What are those conversations like because this 490 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 5: is one of the premier athletes his uncle Drew, this 491 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 5: is the top selling shoe. 492 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 7: Kids love it. 493 00:24:56,320 --> 00:25:00,719 Speaker 2: His shoes were still selling at the same time, still selling. 494 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 10: We were in conversations, well, we hadn't really started at 495 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 10: that point about what the next steps would be, if 496 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 10: he was going to remain a signature athlete or not, 497 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,679 Speaker 10: in what way they wanted to continue that. 498 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 2: We hadn't even started that yet. 499 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,640 Speaker 7: Issues were so they're definitely on board, were already. 500 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:25,439 Speaker 2: I wouldn't say they were fully on board. 501 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 10: I think that internally, like within every company, everybody had 502 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 10: issues with there were people that were I'm pro vaccination 503 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 10: and people that were I'm anti vaccination, and so I 504 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 10: think that probably within and I don't know this to 505 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 10: be true, within those Nike walls, there were people that said, hey, 506 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 10: you're forcing me to get vaccinated, but you have a 507 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,400 Speaker 10: signature athlete that isn't vaccinated. But what kind of messaging 508 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 10: is that sending. So I'm sure you know everybody it 509 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 10: was a difficult time for every company, just having the 510 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:02,679 Speaker 10: conversation about vaccine versus non vaccination. 511 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 9: So he makes it through that and now he's playing 512 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 9: for the Nets, and then something else happens. So he 513 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 9: shares a link to a documentary and that causes another 514 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 9: firestorm and he gets suspended indefinitely. 515 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 4: And okay, so now NBA punishing on broken nets, punishing 516 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 4: on But now the Nike situation starts to unravel because 517 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 4: now Nike at some point steps away from him. Right 518 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 4: was he up for a new contract or did they 519 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,439 Speaker 4: just terminate the current contract. He was up for a 520 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 4: new contract. It just so happened out timing was at 521 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,639 Speaker 4: the same time, was at the same time, so they 522 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 4: didn't technically terminate him. They just didn't renew. They did 523 00:26:55,359 --> 00:27:00,439 Speaker 4: nothing essential to extend that contract. Essentially, How was okay? 524 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,400 Speaker 9: So how was that that was another obviously very high 525 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 9: profile news story. How was that for you and for him? 526 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 10: Going through that, I think what he wanted and perhaps 527 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 10: what he would have wanted from Nike, I don't know 528 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,160 Speaker 10: if Nike would have been able to give it to him, 529 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:25,400 Speaker 10: because he wanted a lot more creative control, he wanted 530 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,679 Speaker 10: a lot more equity, he wanted higher commission like there 531 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 10: were there were things that he wanted that I honestly 532 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 10: think that just was not within Nike's ecosystem to provide 533 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:38,120 Speaker 10: or to give. 534 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 5: So regardless of the situation it was Nike, he still 535 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 5: might have been home for you guys anyway, exactly. 536 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he tweeted and said that he didn't 537 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 4: like to shoot that they had put out. 538 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 7: It was it denying. 539 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 2: Uh the eights. Yeah? 540 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 9: But how but how was the from getting suspended? How 541 00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,880 Speaker 9: was that dealing once again? Now you got to deal 542 00:27:59,920 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 9: with the Brooklyn nuts, you got to deal with the NBA. 543 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 9: He had to go meet with the commissioner and a 544 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 9: bunch of other tough community service and different things that nature. Like, 545 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 9: how was that because he just went through something previously 546 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,959 Speaker 9: with COVID, now he's going something going through something completely different, 547 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 9: but another thing less than a year later. 548 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 4: So how was that for you guys going through that difficult. 549 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 2: It was. It was a very very. 550 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 10: Difficult moment, and I think that to really dive into 551 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 10: that detail, I don't want him to be here to 552 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 10: really talk it through because there were so many nuances 553 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 10: there that I think when you really hear the real 554 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 10: story behind it, it'll make it'll make your jaw drop. 555 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 5: You have probably one of the most intensifying first years 556 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 5: on the job very much. 557 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 7: I've heard right you talk about that through. 558 00:28:54,720 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 5: Contract negotiation and be a contract negotiation suspensions world pandemic 559 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 5: like all that's happening in your first year. So we're 560 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 5: at the point where you know, we're looking at from 561 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 5: a financial standpoint and some of the things that you 562 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 5: want from a shoe deal, it's. 563 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 7: Not going to happen. Perhaps that night. 564 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 5: Are other shoe companies reaching out and offering because I 565 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 5: know we land and we'll get to that. Are other 566 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 5: shoe companies reaching out and saying, this is a prize 567 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 5: free agent from an athletic endorsement standpoint, we should go 568 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 5: ahead and try to sign them. 569 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 10: Initially, we wanted to go independent, okay, and we had 570 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 10: a lot of conversations with being a real independent shoe brand, 571 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:44,719 Speaker 10: and I sort of made the decision collectively with his 572 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 10: dad that that probably wasn't the best route because building 573 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 10: a shoe and building a performance shoe on the court 574 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 10: where his feet are your most valuable asset, was something 575 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 10: we were just really worried about from just being an 576 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 10: independent brand, just having all of the resources, the tools 577 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 10: and everything to make sure that his feet were protected. 578 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 2: We want him to have a. 579 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 10: Very long career, and so we didn't want to jump 580 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 10: out and say, hey, we're going to do this independent 581 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 10: and we produce a shoe that just couldn't stand. 582 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 9: Well you did you ever look at the big ball 583 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 9: of brand and what happened with that as something. 584 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 7: That was as you said, that's what I. 585 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 9: Think study because I mean they said that, I don't 586 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 9: know if it's true or not. Shout out to Lonzo. 587 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 9: He came to invest best, but they say one of 588 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 9: the reasons why he's hurt is because of the shoe. 589 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 4: I don't know if that's true. It broke down. 590 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know, and you know, I don't. 591 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 10: I just I think that when you think about performance 592 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 10: and the way he moves in the angles in which 593 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 10: he moves on the court, and remember I talked about 594 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 10: you know your research and you study being independent and 595 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 10: just basically producing a shoe that can achieve that mechanism 596 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 10: was something that we all were really concerned about. There's 597 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 10: some things that you can kind of build a plane 598 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 10: while flying it. This wasn't one of them, and this 599 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 10: was one of them that we just didn't want to 600 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 10: take that that that chance on and that's just being honest. 601 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 7: So you end up with answer. 602 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 5: And so this is interesting because this is now I'm 603 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 5: looking at this as a global play, right like they 604 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 5: have at the time. Well, Dwayne Wade was there, who's at. 605 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 7: Lay Clay Thompson. That's what it was. 606 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 5: Are you watching how he's structuring his deal and looking 607 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 5: at away this is completely independent. We want to have 608 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 5: a global brand. This is a company that I think 609 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 5: we can partner with. 610 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 10: Yeah, So we took the time to kind of figure 611 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 10: out what did we really want an a shoe deal. 612 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 10: So before we even you know, when it was Nike 613 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 10: was done, it was like, what is what's important? So 614 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 10: it was creativity, it was price point, quality, products, a 615 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 10: host of other things. And so when we started to 616 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 10: have the conversations with Anton a few other companies, it 617 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 10: was really about us creating our own contract because we 618 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 10: didn't want something that was really a traditional contract where 619 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 10: it was like you just get royalties and you get 620 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 10: a base commission and you walk away. We wanted something 621 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 10: that had a lot more ownership for us because we 622 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 10: knew that once we put Kai in the lab, we 623 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 10: knew what he was going to create at the end 624 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 10: of the day. We wanted something that gave us real equity, 625 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 10: that gave us a real opportunity to control the narrative 626 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 10: and do something really different. We wanted something that was international, 627 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 10: and we wanted something that we could also use as 628 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 10: a springboard. So we knew that in China his shoes 629 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 10: were very successful, so it just made sense right when 630 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 10: we looked at if we thought about what part of 631 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 10: the world were his number one sales, it was China. 632 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 10: So we immediately kind of stood there and said, what 633 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 10: can we built here and Expand. 634 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 5: I heard him talk about the impact that Kobe had 635 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 5: right when Kobe when they when they played in Beijing, 636 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 5: and they saw the impact that we're stars, But this 637 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 5: guy is at a different level because of the Chinese market, 638 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 5: and I know he's close with Jimmy Butler, who signed 639 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 5: with Leni and so you can kind of see this 640 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 5: this global impact. At you talked about the creative process 641 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 5: at you said he wanted more. 642 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 7: What is that like now in it? 643 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 10: Yeah, I've learned more about shoes and I am a 644 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 10: woman who loves shoes than I ever knew before, from 645 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 10: start to finish. When I was in China, I kind 646 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 10: of looked at his dad and I said, we couldn't. 647 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 2: Have done this bar This is a process. 648 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 10: It's really this, this process to build a performance shoe 649 00:33:56,520 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 10: and all of the testing that goes into it. So 650 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 10: the product that the consumers are going to get, I 651 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 10: think they're going to be really really happy because he 652 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 10: has his finger on everything. 653 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 9: So you spoke about what you didn't get a Nike 654 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 9: that he wanted as far as some equity and creative 655 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 9: design and or can you give us some details perhaps 656 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 9: on like what he's actually had. 657 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 10: Let me give you the secret sauce. He's very he's 658 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 10: very modest about is. He doesn't like to talk about money. 659 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 10: Right for him, it's because he wants to be seen 660 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:37,240 Speaker 10: as Kyrie the individual, Kyrie the person, Kyrie the humanitarian, 661 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:38,360 Speaker 10: not Kyrie. 662 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 2: This is how much money. So he has equity, Yeah, he's. 663 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 10: Not interested in, Like that's a secret sauce. That's a 664 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 10: secret sauce. 665 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 5: So let's talk about this because you know the season 666 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,360 Speaker 5: that it did start, But you guys had an amazing 667 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,800 Speaker 5: summer and one of the things coming into the summer 668 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:54,840 Speaker 5: was free agency. 669 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:55,799 Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, he. 670 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 5: Got traded to Dallas, but now's he's a free agent. Yeah, 671 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,400 Speaker 5: the most he can get is staying with Dallas or 672 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:03,359 Speaker 5: he can go somewhere else. 673 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 7: I know, my brother's a diehard Lakers fan. 674 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 5: Everybody thinks he's going to the Lakers because he's showing 675 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 5: up at the playoff games. At any point, I mean, 676 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,360 Speaker 5: in my mind he's a max player. At any point, 677 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 5: did you guys say, you know what because of all 678 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:22,360 Speaker 5: of you know, the news and headlines and where we 679 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 5: not going to get max money, where we're going to 680 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,359 Speaker 5: have to take less money to go somewhere else, or 681 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,840 Speaker 5: what was the game plan going into the summer. 682 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 10: The game plan was being at a place that you 683 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 10: can consider home, that you were comfortable that you saw 684 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 10: yourself being a main contributor. 685 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 2: So was never about. 686 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 10: Max money as much as it was really about making 687 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 10: sure that this was a place that you felt comfortable 688 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:57,400 Speaker 10: that you felt like you could be really a contributor 689 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,360 Speaker 10: at the end of the day, that you like the 690 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:02,880 Speaker 10: people that you were going to, that you were going 691 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 10: to have to work with eighty two games out of 692 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 10: the year, and that was that was the top at 693 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 10: the beginning. That was the most important thing. I think 694 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 10: the money was probably third or fourth. It was always 695 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,840 Speaker 10: number one for me because I come from this money 696 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,880 Speaker 10: background and this exchange of of of of services and 697 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 10: what that value is. But for him it was really 698 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,799 Speaker 10: about money aside, because like I said, he doesn't He 699 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 10: wants to be seen very differently and not from a 700 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:38,880 Speaker 10: monetary a monetary standpoint. For him, it was where do 701 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 10: I feel like I can be at home. One of 702 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 10: the things he did he's never got a chance to 703 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:46,840 Speaker 10: really experience was free agency, and so we wanted to 704 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 10: try to give him that that that ability to be 705 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,240 Speaker 10: courted a little bit and told that you're the prettiest 706 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,360 Speaker 10: girl at the prom or really prettiest guy at the 707 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 10: at the prom a little bit. 708 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 2: So, uh, that was important. 709 00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:02,480 Speaker 10: But I think that when we when we talked about Dallas, 710 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 10: it just checked all the boxes, even though you know, 711 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 10: we kind of looked to the side and said, you 712 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,560 Speaker 10: know what else is out there, because you're supposed to 713 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:10,240 Speaker 10: do it. 714 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,719 Speaker 2: But Dallas just checked all the boxes that he wanted. 715 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,360 Speaker 9: So I mean, can I just go back to this 716 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,839 Speaker 9: nigga thing for that? So it's a Chinese company, right, 717 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 9: So we don't really see a lot of these sneakers 718 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 9: people in America. 719 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 4: Where in these sneakers? 720 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 9: So is the idea to make these sneakers popular in 721 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 9: America or it's like global this Stefan Marbury thing where 722 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,760 Speaker 9: it's just like just China's enough to actually it's global. 723 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,400 Speaker 10: We're working And not to give away a lot of 724 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,919 Speaker 10: the secret sauce, but that was a real big part 725 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:47,319 Speaker 10: of our negotiation and our deal was where is this 726 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 10: going to be globally, US Philippines in those areas of 727 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,319 Speaker 10: the world where we know that basketball is really big. 728 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 7: Yeah. Took a trip to China this summer. 729 00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,120 Speaker 4: It was crazy, It looked crazy. 730 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 2: It was insane. 731 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 10: It was one of the probably best trips that that 732 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:06,719 Speaker 10: I've been on in a long time. 733 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,520 Speaker 5: Could could not walk the street, couldn't walk anywhere, really 734 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:10,359 Speaker 5: couldn't walk in the air. 735 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 10: I snuck out a little bit because I wanted to 736 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:17,439 Speaker 10: understand we're kind of given this these images of what 737 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,839 Speaker 10: China is and what the Chinese marketplace is. 738 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 4: How how was you experienced? 739 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 2: It was amazing. 740 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 10: It was nothing that I thought it would be when 741 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 10: I got on the plane, because you kind of go 742 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 10: in with these stereotypes, and I was a little embarrassed 743 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,680 Speaker 10: myself because I'm like, I've always sold black media and 744 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 10: I've always like countered these stereotypes right that people have 745 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,399 Speaker 10: of black people, And here it is, I'm walking into 746 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 10: China with certain stereotypes and getting off of that plane 747 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,919 Speaker 10: and just saying, just seeing just the energy and the 748 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:56,040 Speaker 10: just love that not only they have for Kai, but 749 00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 10: his family and basketball just meant so much and just 750 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 10: walking around. 751 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 5: This episode is brought to you by P and C Bank. 752 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 5: A lot of people think podcasts about work are boring, 753 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:13,759 Speaker 5: and sure they definitely can be, but understanding a professionals 754 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:17,080 Speaker 5: routine shows us how they achieve their success little by little, 755 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:21,120 Speaker 5: day after day. 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You 809 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,200 Speaker 10: saw moms standing there with their sons and their daughters, 810 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:26,759 Speaker 10: and they just have the same They just. 811 00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:28,040 Speaker 2: Wanted to see their kids happy. 812 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,839 Speaker 10: And that's a universal theme and you just recognize that 813 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:32,759 Speaker 10: all over the world people want the same. 814 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 2: They just want to see their kids happy. 815 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,439 Speaker 9: That's an amazing experience because I went to Hong Kong 816 00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:38,960 Speaker 9: and my experience is completely different. 817 00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,040 Speaker 2: Really, I just it was. 818 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 10: It was really a good experience, really a good experience. 819 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,160 Speaker 5: So during the summer, this is the first time he's 820 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:52,600 Speaker 5: really going to be a free agent, like you said, 821 00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:54,279 Speaker 5: but this is maybe this is the first time, like 822 00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:59,359 Speaker 5: you're negotiating the contract, you're a trailblazer. I started by 823 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,520 Speaker 5: saying that talk about the pressure or the intensity that 824 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,279 Speaker 5: you had to feel to make to make sure that 825 00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,360 Speaker 5: you get this right, because if you don't, especially for 826 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:09,839 Speaker 5: ourmun if you don't get this right. 827 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:10,560 Speaker 4: I'm done. 828 00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:14,120 Speaker 5: You're done, But there might be an there may not 829 00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:15,880 Speaker 5: be another chance for a black woman to step in 830 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,400 Speaker 5: this place, to show that this is something that's capable 831 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,799 Speaker 5: or capable of doing well. 832 00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:21,520 Speaker 7: Take us through it. 833 00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:23,800 Speaker 2: I didn't sleep for a few days. 834 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:29,719 Speaker 10: I'm thankful that I had a few godfathers, and I 835 00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,960 Speaker 10: think everybody needs that in any industry that held my 836 00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:42,640 Speaker 10: hand ex Players, agents, today, business managers, even some people 837 00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:48,360 Speaker 10: in the press that really were instrumental and helpful in 838 00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,800 Speaker 10: just keeping me sane and giving me advice and talking 839 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:56,719 Speaker 10: to me about what I needed to do and the 840 00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:00,400 Speaker 10: thing is that I should consider and all of those things. 841 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,799 Speaker 2: So I was really really fortunate. I did not sleep. 842 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:04,680 Speaker 10: There was a lot of pressure because I said, every 843 00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:09,640 Speaker 10: everybody in the world is looking and not everybody is 844 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,880 Speaker 10: hoping that I'm successful. But most importantly, there was a 845 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,680 Speaker 10: coworker that I worked with and she she ran up 846 00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:17,560 Speaker 10: to me when I was announced as an agent, and 847 00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:19,480 Speaker 10: she said, you know, you give my daughter something to 848 00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,920 Speaker 10: believe in. And so every day that statement kind of 849 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:24,719 Speaker 10: rung through in my head, where she was like, you 850 00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,520 Speaker 10: give my daughter something to believe in. And so I 851 00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:29,680 Speaker 10: was like, I can't. I can't disappoint this woman's daughters. 852 00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:31,680 Speaker 10: I got to make sure that I do this well. 853 00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:36,000 Speaker 10: So I was very happy with it with the outcohol. 854 00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:37,680 Speaker 7: What were some of the people that you called on 855 00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:38,560 Speaker 7: in the. 856 00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:42,080 Speaker 10: Space, So I did not confirm if I could use 857 00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,080 Speaker 10: their name, yeah, because I don't want to. 858 00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:45,200 Speaker 2: I don't want to put them out there. 859 00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:48,040 Speaker 5: There's a nat that we can say you sat down 860 00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:49,200 Speaker 5: with Mark Cuban at some point. 861 00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:49,960 Speaker 2: Oh, I love them. 862 00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:54,279 Speaker 5: Contracts there, now you're going to once you sign this, 863 00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:57,040 Speaker 5: you're on the other side of it. You've actually executed 864 00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:58,760 Speaker 5: and you've done it with the world watching. 865 00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,560 Speaker 7: So how's this conversation going. 866 00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:04,439 Speaker 2: Mark is. 867 00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:10,320 Speaker 10: Very different than what I expected because I saw Mark 868 00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:16,080 Speaker 10: through the lens of Shark Tank and so like that 869 00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:19,480 Speaker 10: was what I imagined him being, and not that he 870 00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:23,200 Speaker 10: was difficult or anything from that perspective on Shark Tank. 871 00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:26,279 Speaker 10: I just expected him to be just very much I 872 00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,600 Speaker 10: know it all, and this is it and this it's 873 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:32,319 Speaker 10: my way or the highway. And so Mark was very 874 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:37,640 Speaker 10: much inquisitive. He wanted to know all things. He wanted 875 00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:42,239 Speaker 10: to know our thoughts. He didn't come across as very 876 00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:46,600 Speaker 10: selsy at all. He was really interested. There was more 877 00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:51,919 Speaker 10: questions about what do we think where we were we're 878 00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:57,600 Speaker 10: worrying the process. He wanted my opinion on some things 879 00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:01,359 Speaker 10: that he was working on. So it felt like not 880 00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:05,120 Speaker 10: like a transaction. It really felt like you were building 881 00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,960 Speaker 10: this partnership. And so that's what made it a lot different. 882 00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,800 Speaker 4: So you got a max contract. 883 00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:12,279 Speaker 2: Right, No, slightly under? 884 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:16,319 Speaker 4: Slightly under? Was it? 885 00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:16,560 Speaker 7: Was? 886 00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,000 Speaker 9: There a lot of work and negotiation because I feel 887 00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,600 Speaker 9: like a lot the contract is pretty much set at 888 00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:22,600 Speaker 9: that point, right. 889 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:23,480 Speaker 2: Not necessarily. 890 00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,560 Speaker 10: So when you have when you look at this CBA 891 00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:29,880 Speaker 10: and the salary caps, you have to think about do 892 00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:33,520 Speaker 10: you want to be a well in a pond, right 893 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,240 Speaker 10: or do you want to be the will in the ocean? 894 00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:36,680 Speaker 4: Right? 895 00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,440 Speaker 10: So you don't want to suck up all of the 896 00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:43,480 Speaker 10: money where you're not in a position to kind of 897 00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:45,880 Speaker 10: help the team to get the help that they needed 898 00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:48,879 Speaker 10: to get to the next level. So those are all 899 00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,040 Speaker 10: of the things you thought about, was like, how do we. 900 00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:53,080 Speaker 2: For us? 901 00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:54,640 Speaker 10: Like I said, it was like, how do you become 902 00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:56,759 Speaker 10: that benefit? How is the team going to get better? 903 00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,239 Speaker 10: How are all of those things coming into play? 904 00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,680 Speaker 9: So what are some things things that just in general 905 00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:03,840 Speaker 9: people might not be familiar with, like an NBA contract. 906 00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:05,719 Speaker 9: I know some people I think bron has like a 907 00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,000 Speaker 9: no trade clause, or there's different things that you can 908 00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:09,680 Speaker 9: kind of put in games play. 909 00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:16,720 Speaker 10: There's no trade clauses, there's there's a there's just a plethora. 910 00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,799 Speaker 2: Of things that you can include in the contract. 911 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,440 Speaker 10: I think that one of the conversations you want to 912 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:26,000 Speaker 10: have is where's where does the team see itself this year, 913 00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,920 Speaker 10: next year, and the year after, especially during your contract, 914 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:30,520 Speaker 10: because if the team. 915 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:33,719 Speaker 2: Is consistently losing, you know you're gonna get blamed for it. 916 00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,080 Speaker 4: Said games played, like you have to play a certain 917 00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:37,000 Speaker 4: amount of games, play. 918 00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:41,920 Speaker 10: A certain amount of games. People have all sorts of contracts, 919 00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:43,200 Speaker 10: minutes played. 920 00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:45,600 Speaker 2: You just have to kind of figure out what's in 921 00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:46,560 Speaker 2: the best, what's big? 922 00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:48,000 Speaker 4: What's big now? Is that. 923 00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:53,920 Speaker 9: Like if you make an All NBA team, you get 924 00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:55,360 Speaker 9: a bonus on your contract? 925 00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,560 Speaker 2: All Star games, all Star Games. 926 00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:00,279 Speaker 4: All Star games? Is that stuff that that part of 927 00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,920 Speaker 4: Kyrie's deal? Why not? 928 00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:08,359 Speaker 2: All NBA is subjective? Yeah, and you don't want to 929 00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,200 Speaker 2: tie your your money to anything. 930 00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,680 Speaker 9: That is Uh, well, we saw we saw somebody that 931 00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:14,880 Speaker 9: lost a lot of money. 932 00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:20,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, he's a great player in Memphis who didn't 933 00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:21,400 Speaker 5: make any All NBA teams. 934 00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:23,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, and how much did he lose. 935 00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:29,120 Speaker 5: Between the door Spence with Nike and tigning bonus. I 936 00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:32,759 Speaker 5: think it was forty two. Yeah, right, because he would 937 00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:34,320 Speaker 5: have been able to sign a super max because he 938 00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,720 Speaker 5: would have made one of the first teams. He probably 939 00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:38,640 Speaker 5: would have been first Team NBA, but he at least would 940 00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,319 Speaker 5: have been second team. He doesn't make any of them. 941 00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:42,880 Speaker 5: But who does benefit is a guy like Jaylen Brown 942 00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,520 Speaker 5: who actually made an All NBA team and then signs 943 00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:47,520 Speaker 5: of richest contract in the history of NBA. 944 00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:53,440 Speaker 9: Yeah, So because he didn't make All NBA team, he 945 00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,120 Speaker 9: lost his ability to sign a super max. 946 00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:01,359 Speaker 7: Unfortunate. Unfortunate. Yeah, I mean that that goes back to it, like. 947 00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:05,879 Speaker 10: Those those things that you think about right away. 948 00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,879 Speaker 5: Obviously, suspended for the first twenty five games I think 949 00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:12,000 Speaker 5: this season, so that will affect even if he had 950 00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,200 Speaker 5: a game's played, But he definitely should have made an 951 00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:18,160 Speaker 5: All NBA team. And that's no slight to anybody that 952 00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:19,040 Speaker 5: was on those teams. 953 00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:22,200 Speaker 4: I mean, it's just obvious. It's obvious. 954 00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:26,839 Speaker 9: So yeah, but no, because also when we heard lou 955 00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:30,759 Speaker 9: Will speak and lou Will said that it was one 956 00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,200 Speaker 9: year when he was playing that he felt he should 957 00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:37,759 Speaker 9: have been an All Star absolutely, and his coach, I 958 00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,480 Speaker 9: think Doug Collins was the coach's time, and he sat 959 00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:43,319 Speaker 9: down with him and he said, look, you deserve to 960 00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:46,120 Speaker 9: be an All Star. He's like, the reserves give the 961 00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:49,239 Speaker 9: coach has to nominate the reserves. So he's like, look, 962 00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:52,040 Speaker 9: you're the best player on the team. You deserve to 963 00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:55,120 Speaker 9: be an All Star. But for the morality scorer on 964 00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:58,520 Speaker 9: the team, for the morale of the team, I'm going 965 00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:00,000 Speaker 9: to nominate somebody else. 966 00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:00,520 Speaker 4: It was. 967 00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:02,040 Speaker 7: It was crazy. It was Andrea Godallas. 968 00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:06,279 Speaker 9: So but what lou Will said is that that not 969 00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:09,040 Speaker 9: only it lost a lot of money because he wasn't 970 00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:12,799 Speaker 9: an All Star, but it negatively impacted his career to 971 00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:15,680 Speaker 9: the point where he could never start ever again. And 972 00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:17,960 Speaker 9: he kind of he said, he lost a lot of 973 00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:21,560 Speaker 9: money because of that one decision of him not being 974 00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,840 Speaker 9: on an All Star team. So politics that go in 975 00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:28,200 Speaker 9: to play here that people might not always see. 976 00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:31,840 Speaker 10: I just always think that contracts should be one hundred 977 00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:35,200 Speaker 10: percent of what you can control, especially when you put 978 00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:37,480 Speaker 10: those types of things in a contry. 979 00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:38,840 Speaker 4: You don't like the bonus structures. 980 00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:40,520 Speaker 10: I just think that if you're going to use a 981 00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:43,319 Speaker 10: bonus structure, should be something that you can control, that 982 00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:48,399 Speaker 10: you one hundred percent control, versus something that somebody else 983 00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:49,759 Speaker 10: has can be manipulated. 984 00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:54,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, So you gotta talked about being a 985 00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:58,760 Speaker 5: well in the ocean. Right as the agent, you're looking 986 00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:02,640 Speaker 5: at everybody's contract on the team because or because I 987 00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,440 Speaker 5: would imagine if I'm looking at let's I'll use the 988 00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:08,080 Speaker 5: Mavericks for example, if I'm looking at Luca and I'm thinking, 989 00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:09,960 Speaker 5: all right, he's going to be super MAXI. If we're 990 00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:11,359 Speaker 5: looking at the future of the team, how we're going 991 00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:13,359 Speaker 5: to build to south, I might have to fall out 992 00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:15,960 Speaker 5: this number so that we can help still build people 993 00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,440 Speaker 5: around this core to win the championship. 994 00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:21,040 Speaker 7: So like, you're not looking at those. 995 00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:26,400 Speaker 10: Or I mean, I'm not looking at anybody's contracts on 996 00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:29,600 Speaker 10: the on the team per se. You're just looking at 997 00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:31,959 Speaker 10: how how is the team going to look? 998 00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:32,600 Speaker 2: Right? 999 00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:38,160 Speaker 10: It starts first with do you feel like you want 1000 00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,359 Speaker 10: to be in Dallas? Is this the place you want 1001 00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,920 Speaker 10: to be? And when that was said, yes, this is 1002 00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:47,520 Speaker 10: this is where I want to be. Okay, what do 1003 00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:51,120 Speaker 10: you think that you need to feel comfortable there and 1004 00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:52,160 Speaker 10: then you go from there. 1005 00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:56,120 Speaker 9: So you have one client who was a good client 1006 00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:58,680 Speaker 9: to have because he's one of the best athletes started 1007 00:51:58,719 --> 00:51:59,080 Speaker 9: the top. 1008 00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:01,239 Speaker 4: But you say your goal is to expand and to 1009 00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:01,960 Speaker 4: get other clients. 1010 00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:06,200 Speaker 9: Right, So have you actively started to recruit other players 1011 00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:11,319 Speaker 9: or not? And what is your sales pitch or your 1012 00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:15,040 Speaker 9: pitch to somebody for you to represent them. 1013 00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:16,640 Speaker 2: We passively. 1014 00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:24,560 Speaker 10: Have started to have a conversation with players and potential. 1015 00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,560 Speaker 2: Picks for the NBA. 1016 00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:34,400 Speaker 10: For us, it's we don't want everybody, and I know 1017 00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:37,520 Speaker 10: that that sounds because we're really about how can we help. 1018 00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:42,080 Speaker 10: We want to be the the agent. That's not like 1019 00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:43,960 Speaker 10: we're just signing you know I'm gonna sign you, and 1020 00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:46,880 Speaker 10: I'm gonna sign you and I just showed when there's 1021 00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:48,040 Speaker 10: the contract. 1022 00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:49,800 Speaker 2: We want to really. 1023 00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:58,640 Speaker 10: Be a active and an engine in your career. And 1024 00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:02,640 Speaker 10: so for that, it's as much as we're talking to people, 1025 00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:05,640 Speaker 10: we want them to interview us. We want to interview 1026 00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,719 Speaker 10: them and really figure out how we can help. Because 1027 00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:10,840 Speaker 10: there's some people that we can help in some people 1028 00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:14,320 Speaker 10: that we we we can't and we don't want to 1029 00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:15,319 Speaker 10: waste anybody's time. 1030 00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:19,200 Speaker 2: So That's why I it's very passive. I've had people. 1031 00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:20,880 Speaker 10: That's like, hey, you know, I'm ready to sign, and 1032 00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:22,480 Speaker 10: you're like, I don't know if I can help you, 1033 00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:24,720 Speaker 10: and I don't want to waste your time. 1034 00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:26,319 Speaker 4: So who would be a ideal person? 1035 00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:28,560 Speaker 9: Like who would you what's the prototype of a person 1036 00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:30,319 Speaker 9: that you say I want to work with this guy? 1037 00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:36,160 Speaker 10: A person who understands what they really want and it's 1038 00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:39,120 Speaker 10: and it's bigger than just I want a lot of money, 1039 00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:42,920 Speaker 10: Like what are the accomplishments, what are the goals, what's 1040 00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:43,480 Speaker 10: the family? 1041 00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:49,000 Speaker 2: Like how important are they? 1042 00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:58,600 Speaker 10: It's somebody that is in some ways like cod they 1043 00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:02,839 Speaker 10: want to be humanitarian, in a lot of ways, they 1044 00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:04,040 Speaker 10: want to do a good job. 1045 00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:07,480 Speaker 2: We're not into a lot of egos. 1046 00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:10,560 Speaker 10: We want to figure out how we can like like 1047 00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:13,120 Speaker 10: it really goes to how you can. We're not trying 1048 00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:16,600 Speaker 10: to be the biggest, We're not trying to be the celebrity. 1049 00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:18,840 Speaker 10: Like we're not trying to sign, you know, deals for 1050 00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:20,480 Speaker 10: ourselves or do it? 1051 00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:21,680 Speaker 2: Like we want to sign. 1052 00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:24,680 Speaker 10: Deals for the people that we work with, and what 1053 00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:27,000 Speaker 10: does that look like and how do we help? And 1054 00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:30,200 Speaker 10: so in some cases we've been consultants for people and 1055 00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:33,319 Speaker 10: kind of giving them some advice and how to move 1056 00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:35,719 Speaker 10: forward and what we think and what we see. So 1057 00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:41,000 Speaker 10: for us, it's what is that person that really makes 1058 00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:45,240 Speaker 10: sense for all even because it's how do we create 1059 00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:46,200 Speaker 10: family offices? 1060 00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:48,040 Speaker 2: How do we. 1061 00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:52,040 Speaker 10: Teach you and instruct you and help your family to 1062 00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:53,399 Speaker 10: do the same thing that we're doing. 1063 00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:57,719 Speaker 5: Is it relegated to basketball specifically the NBA or are 1064 00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:00,480 Speaker 5: we open to women's professional sports? 1065 00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:01,120 Speaker 7: Nil? 1066 00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:04,360 Speaker 2: With nil? Yeah, right, the proper between. 1067 00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, because the WNBA, I think that the highest rated 1068 00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:09,640 Speaker 5: game was during the finals this year. 1069 00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:12,520 Speaker 7: The popularities increase and it's so it's a good game. 1070 00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:15,520 Speaker 10: Easy to me when you think about women and our 1071 00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:20,200 Speaker 10: economic powers that WNBA players don't. 1072 00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,520 Speaker 2: Make the money that they should be making. It's just 1073 00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:23,360 Speaker 2: so crazy to me. 1074 00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:27,919 Speaker 10: And I understand the economics in in that part of it, but. 1075 00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:30,120 Speaker 2: It's just it just is so great. They should be 1076 00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:30,879 Speaker 2: making so much more. 1077 00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:31,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1078 00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:34,239 Speaker 5: I think Kelsey Plump said it, Champion Kelsey Plumb, by 1079 00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:37,440 Speaker 5: the way, well saying it, we're still a baby, like 1080 00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:41,279 Speaker 5: we just celebrated twenty five years. If we compare, I mean, 1081 00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:44,160 Speaker 5: the times are different, but the trajectory of where it's 1082 00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:48,360 Speaker 5: headed is definitely on the upward and so having representation, 1083 00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:50,799 Speaker 5: I would just from that standpoint, have a representation of 1084 00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:53,080 Speaker 5: like I don't have to have a male agia, you don't, 1085 00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:55,440 Speaker 5: I can have you could be representing it. So like 1086 00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:57,680 Speaker 5: is that on the vision board for Okay? 1087 00:55:58,239 --> 00:55:59,920 Speaker 10: So we want to make sure we're being an ass 1088 00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:04,400 Speaker 10: it and we're really helping because we're a baby ourselves. 1089 00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:04,640 Speaker 7: Right. 1090 00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:08,319 Speaker 4: So you see who's who's on your team? 1091 00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:13,320 Speaker 2: Kyrie's dad. Uh, he is the chief financial officer. 1092 00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:19,200 Speaker 10: Yeah, and and that's just really based on his expertise 1093 00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:22,000 Speaker 10: in that financial business world. 1094 00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:25,879 Speaker 7: We met in the elevator in Utah. Yeah, the man, 1095 00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:28,759 Speaker 7: solid guy. He said he loves what we're doing. Yeah, uh, 1096 00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:31,279 Speaker 7: and it's proud of us. And I was like, yo, 1097 00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:32,080 Speaker 7: that was that. 1098 00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:39,000 Speaker 10: Yeah, Yeah, he's brilliant. He's brilliant in that financial does 1099 00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:39,960 Speaker 10: space does ky? 1100 00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:40,600 Speaker 4: All Right? 1101 00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:44,560 Speaker 9: So you you guys family business. Is Kai interested in 1102 00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:46,840 Speaker 9: the business? Is he involved in the business? 1103 00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:51,640 Speaker 10: Ultimately, once he's done, the goal would be to just 1104 00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:52,879 Speaker 10: kind of pass it on to him. 1105 00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:58,120 Speaker 2: So once he's done playing, pass. 1106 00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:00,440 Speaker 10: It on and I can retire and his dad retire, 1107 00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:04,160 Speaker 10: we can run around and act like we're twenty some years. 1108 00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:07,439 Speaker 7: So that's that is that the goal for all even yeah, 1109 00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:09,000 Speaker 7: is to we're gonna. 1110 00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:10,560 Speaker 4: Build it up, build it. 1111 00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:13,480 Speaker 10: Up ultimately at some at some point, because I think 1112 00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:17,040 Speaker 10: at that point Kyle would have enough experience to really 1113 00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:22,560 Speaker 10: really uh be a real agent of change for for 1114 00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:24,000 Speaker 10: players come into the industry. 1115 00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:27,800 Speaker 9: How do you look at his role as like he's 1116 00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:30,480 Speaker 9: the closest thing probably to like Muhammad Ali for generation 1117 00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:36,200 Speaker 9: as far as he's he's taking stances, he's become a controversial, 1118 00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:42,120 Speaker 9: polarizing figure. He's become a he's become like adored by 1119 00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:45,440 Speaker 9: the public in a way that even outweighs his his 1120 00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:48,160 Speaker 9: talent level, right, Like, it's not a lot of athletes 1121 00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:53,280 Speaker 9: that have that level of you know, respect from the 1122 00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:57,320 Speaker 9: population or can be polarizing to population, depending on what side, 1123 00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:02,720 Speaker 9: what side you're on. But yeah, how does he even 1124 00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:06,760 Speaker 9: think about that aspect of it? Not yet if you 1125 00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:09,480 Speaker 9: think about it, he's the only one. Colin Kaepernick played 1126 00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:12,160 Speaker 9: a part, but he's not even he's not an athlete anymore, 1127 00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:17,200 Speaker 9: and so he's not even like really in the mix. 1128 00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:20,760 Speaker 9: But as far as athletes now, there's no athlete that 1129 00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:22,920 Speaker 9: really has ever pushed the line in the last like 1130 00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:26,880 Speaker 9: Jalen Brown is doing it in a non traditional way 1131 00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:27,440 Speaker 9: for sure, and. 1132 00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:31,200 Speaker 5: Like Lebron and those guys, they've they've they've done it 1133 00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:32,400 Speaker 5: in their way, like Lebron. 1134 00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:35,360 Speaker 9: I'm saying as far as some of the controversy right 1135 00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:37,520 Speaker 9: because Muhammad Ali was a very controversy. 1136 00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:40,400 Speaker 10: I'm saying controversy because I think it has such a. 1137 00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:44,160 Speaker 2: Negative connotation to it. 1138 00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:45,960 Speaker 10: And I think that the more we say, oh, it's 1139 00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:52,560 Speaker 10: it's a controversial thing or a controversial moment, I think 1140 00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:55,720 Speaker 10: we're reinforcing that this is something that's negatively right. 1141 00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:59,240 Speaker 2: And so I think that we have to figure out, 1142 00:58:59,240 --> 00:58:59,760 Speaker 2: and I don't know what. 1143 00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:03,520 Speaker 10: That word it is today, how not to when athletes 1144 00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:06,960 Speaker 10: are standing up for what they believe in, whether we 1145 00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:09,760 Speaker 10: whether we think it's right or wrong or indifferent, figure 1146 00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:13,800 Speaker 10: out what that word is to describe that. Because I 1147 00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:15,919 Speaker 10: think that we all are given, you know, we all 1148 00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:21,360 Speaker 10: or afforded this idea of choice, especially in this country. 1149 00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:24,400 Speaker 10: So I think we got to figure out for sure. 1150 00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:26,720 Speaker 9: I don't really look at it as like a negative 1151 00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:28,360 Speaker 9: thing per se. I just look at it as like 1152 00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:32,280 Speaker 9: America is a very divisive country. Yeah, just is what 1153 00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:35,120 Speaker 9: it is right and it's split, it's split between black 1154 00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:37,520 Speaker 9: and white, it's split between rich and poor, split a 1155 00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:40,680 Speaker 9: lot of different ways. So I feel like sometimes some 1156 00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:44,880 Speaker 9: people make stances, and if you make a stance, if 1157 00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:47,360 Speaker 9: you have enough courage to make a stance, you have 1158 00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:49,680 Speaker 9: to deal with the consequences of that correct And no 1159 00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:52,360 Speaker 9: matter what that stance is, it's almost always going to 1160 00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:53,760 Speaker 9: be controversial. 1161 00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:55,000 Speaker 2: Right, There's always a consequence. 1162 00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:56,040 Speaker 4: There's always a consequence. 1163 00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:58,120 Speaker 9: There's always a consequence, and there's always going to be 1164 00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:00,760 Speaker 9: a lot of people that don't agree with it correct. Right, 1165 01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:04,960 Speaker 9: So for the most part, most people, you can't take 1166 01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:07,920 Speaker 9: the Michael Jordan approach where you just play it safe. 1167 01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:10,240 Speaker 9: Nothing wrong with that. I'm just saying that that's what 1168 01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:14,040 Speaker 9: most athletes have done for the last thirty years. You 1169 01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:17,040 Speaker 9: don't really get into political stuff. You don't really make 1170 01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:19,520 Speaker 9: too many social stances. You know, you just kind of 1171 01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:23,440 Speaker 9: like just stay out of that because it's not beneficial 1172 01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:25,840 Speaker 9: to your brand. Right, You're gonna lose a lot of money, 1173 01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:28,040 Speaker 9: You're gonna lose support. I mean, it's just a real conversation. 1174 01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:33,320 Speaker 9: But there's some athletes that didn't care about that. Muhammad 1175 01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:36,080 Speaker 9: Ali is somebody that comes to mind who lost a 1176 01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:38,280 Speaker 9: lot of money by not wanting to go to war. 1177 01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:41,120 Speaker 9: He could have just went to Vietnam. He wasn't gonna 1178 01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:43,400 Speaker 9: fight as a soldier, could have just you know, did 1179 01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:47,320 Speaker 9: some tours and detained the soldiers. But his belief, his 1180 01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:51,360 Speaker 9: religious belief, and just his moral belief said he didn't 1181 01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:53,280 Speaker 9: want to do that. And he took a court case 1182 01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:54,680 Speaker 9: all the way to Supreme Court so he didn't have 1183 01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:57,080 Speaker 9: to go to jail. Lost two years, three years of 1184 01:00:57,080 --> 01:00:58,880 Speaker 9: his career in the prime of his career, lost a 1185 01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:03,840 Speaker 9: lot of money. But ultimately he's known for something more 1186 01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:04,640 Speaker 9: than just boxing. 1187 01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:05,880 Speaker 2: Correct. 1188 01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:08,760 Speaker 9: So that's what I mean by that, right, Like I 1189 01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:11,080 Speaker 9: look at Kyrie, like, you know, he didn't have to 1190 01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:13,720 Speaker 9: He could have just took the vaccine they're gonna just 1191 01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:17,520 Speaker 9: nobody would have Nobody would have thought anything of it 1192 01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:20,200 Speaker 9: because everybody else did. But it's like you made a stance, 1193 01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:22,959 Speaker 9: and then he probably didn't do it to become a public. 1194 01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:26,640 Speaker 10: If it's making a stance as much as if he 1195 01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:28,840 Speaker 10: was in anywhere else in the world where there was 1196 01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:32,000 Speaker 10: not a man day, would it have been him making 1197 01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:32,560 Speaker 10: a stance? 1198 01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:34,360 Speaker 4: Oh? 1199 01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:36,840 Speaker 2: Sometimes I think it would have been a choice. 1200 01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:41,200 Speaker 9: Sometimes you get highlighted without even like Marshall Lynch said, 1201 01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:43,880 Speaker 9: he never stood for the national anthem. It's just the 1202 01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:48,520 Speaker 9: public highlighted Colan Kaepernick. Right, Sometimes you do things and 1203 01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:50,320 Speaker 9: it's like he's not the only player that didn't take 1204 01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:53,320 Speaker 9: the vaccine, but for whatever reason, he's the one that 1205 01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:57,760 Speaker 9: became the face of it, right, they needed to face right. 1206 01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:00,560 Speaker 9: And sometimes that's not up to you. You can't control it. 1207 01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:05,960 Speaker 9: But sometimes people just put things on you and if 1208 01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:07,880 Speaker 9: you make that decision, now you have no choice but 1209 01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:08,560 Speaker 9: to live with it. 1210 01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:09,200 Speaker 2: Correct. 1211 01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:12,680 Speaker 10: And I think so here's the thing I'll always say 1212 01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:20,000 Speaker 10: about we all make choices, right. I think that I 1213 01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:22,400 Speaker 10: don't ever want to say that that a choice is 1214 01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:28,000 Speaker 10: a controversial choice, especially when if you weren't anywhere else 1215 01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:32,520 Speaker 10: that didn't have the same mandate, it would not have 1216 01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:33,960 Speaker 10: been considered a controversy. 1217 01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:35,240 Speaker 2: It would just be like, oh, it just made a 1218 01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:37,280 Speaker 2: choice not to get it done. That's fine. 1219 01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:41,320 Speaker 10: And so that's just that's why I sit on this 1220 01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:45,120 Speaker 10: this place of how do we because when we say 1221 01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:49,480 Speaker 10: taking a stand, it still has a negative kind of connotation. 1222 01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:50,960 Speaker 10: And I would love to figure out what is a 1223 01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:54,320 Speaker 10: better word the political content, Yeah, like whether or not 1224 01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:56,880 Speaker 10: you know, and I think moral has a I think 1225 01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:58,600 Speaker 10: we got to figure out a word. And I think 1226 01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:01,680 Speaker 10: like the next time I come to sit with you, like, 1227 01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:04,560 Speaker 10: let's figure out what that word is for. 1228 01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:07,000 Speaker 2: People that. 1229 01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:11,880 Speaker 10: Are standing up for you know, the food desert so 1230 01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:17,280 Speaker 10: food scarcity or education and all in health and all 1231 01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:19,680 Speaker 10: of these things, because I don't want those are very 1232 01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:22,480 Speaker 10: important issues that are impact in our community, and I 1233 01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:25,240 Speaker 10: don't want there to be well, this is controversial because 1234 01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:28,800 Speaker 10: you said it is not right that kids go, you know, 1235 01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:32,080 Speaker 10: have are concerned about food in their homes, are that 1236 01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:34,439 Speaker 10: there are food deserts in their communities. Right, I don't 1237 01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:37,960 Speaker 10: want that word controversy to stand. And if we can 1238 01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:41,200 Speaker 10: use what Kyrie went through through through through the vaccine 1239 01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:42,760 Speaker 10: and say hey, we're going to change that and we're 1240 01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:46,120 Speaker 10: going to create this new word and basically make that 1241 01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:48,760 Speaker 10: a word of positivity. When you're saying this is not 1242 01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:52,760 Speaker 10: right and this is a choice that I'm not aligned with. 1243 01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:55,560 Speaker 9: Well, it all comes down to media. Yeah, that's why 1244 01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:58,360 Speaker 9: the media is really the most important thing in society 1245 01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:00,680 Speaker 9: because they can shape the minds of the people. So 1246 01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:04,880 Speaker 9: we can't control as a regular people, we can't control it. 1247 01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:10,240 Speaker 4: But media can, so he didn't. The controversy comes from. 1248 01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:15,800 Speaker 9: The media saying that he's irresponsible and da da da da. 1249 01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:18,520 Speaker 4: So when that narrative is pushed now it becomes controversial. 1250 01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:22,920 Speaker 10: But I think coming from media, and I used to 1251 01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:27,000 Speaker 10: go through all of the emails and read the comments, 1252 01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:32,120 Speaker 10: when people stand up and say it's not right, you 1253 01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:35,120 Speaker 10: shut a lot of that down. And so there are 1254 01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:37,960 Speaker 10: communities that you cannot say anything. 1255 01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:40,640 Speaker 2: You can't like no, no, no, no, no, you're not going to 1256 01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:42,360 Speaker 2: say this, You're not going to do this. I'm gonna 1257 01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:43,240 Speaker 2: shut that down. 1258 01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:45,600 Speaker 10: And I think we have to be just as vocal 1259 01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:49,600 Speaker 10: and I'm not going to allow you to sugarcoat this. 1260 01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:55,000 Speaker 10: I'm gonna shut this down and make you enforce you 1261 01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:56,720 Speaker 10: not to make this a negative. 1262 01:04:56,840 --> 01:04:59,440 Speaker 4: But I think it also is harder when it's coming 1263 01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:00,520 Speaker 4: from people. 1264 01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:03,880 Speaker 10: No, no, it's not I think that I think and 1265 01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:05,520 Speaker 10: not to to to debate. 1266 01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:09,080 Speaker 2: I think that if we stand together. 1267 01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:13,680 Speaker 9: Well that's what I'm saying, there's no standing together. It's divided. 1268 01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:17,200 Speaker 9: Black people are the ones that's criticizing. So it's like 1269 01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:19,080 Speaker 9: it's harder to say, like you know what I mean, 1270 01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:22,200 Speaker 9: like you have disagree, I have to disagree you have 1271 01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:26,080 Speaker 9: no black community support, Carrie. Yeah, you have prominent black 1272 01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:28,720 Speaker 9: journalists television. 1273 01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:30,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, that's different or. 1274 01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:36,520 Speaker 4: Publicly like these are these are not just regular people. 1275 01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:39,760 Speaker 9: These are the highest people of their craft, highly respected 1276 01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:44,240 Speaker 9: in journalism that's publicly denouncing him. 1277 01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:50,640 Speaker 10: I've had those conversations, and I've you know, and I'll 1278 01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:53,560 Speaker 10: leave that private. But I have gone back and sort 1279 01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:57,960 Speaker 10: of had those conversations. And there is a certain power 1280 01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:03,960 Speaker 10: that media does have, and there are certain forces at 1281 01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:09,520 Speaker 10: some of these media companies that demand certain responses to 1282 01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:10,240 Speaker 10: certain things. 1283 01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:13,160 Speaker 2: So I get it, I understand it. 1284 01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:16,680 Speaker 10: What I wanted to just make sure that I clarify 1285 01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:22,520 Speaker 10: was that the black community, the Hispanic community, the black 1286 01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:25,760 Speaker 10: and brown community was really supportive of Hot They were like, 1287 01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:27,800 Speaker 10: hands down. 1288 01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:30,520 Speaker 9: That's why I compare it to yeah, Lean, I don't 1289 01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:32,320 Speaker 9: want to compare people, but it's like he always had 1290 01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:35,640 Speaker 9: a support it to people. Yeah, but the people that 1291 01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:38,160 Speaker 9: are in position of power or in the media, that's 1292 01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:39,240 Speaker 9: that's not the people. 1293 01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:39,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1294 01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:42,880 Speaker 5: It there's a disconnect. So, I mean, that's interesting. I'm 1295 01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:46,920 Speaker 5: hearing from what I'm hearing that was great back and forth. 1296 01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:50,240 Speaker 5: The media has a job to do and sometimes we 1297 01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:53,760 Speaker 5: don't understand what the person who's saying it, the pressure 1298 01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:56,080 Speaker 5: that's been put on them to have a stance correct 1299 01:06:56,440 --> 01:07:00,280 Speaker 5: and make sort of a spectacle of their response of it, 1300 01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:03,600 Speaker 5: because they need people to watch and they need viewership, 1301 01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:05,400 Speaker 5: and what comes with viewership comes. 1302 01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:09,080 Speaker 7: With they need a job or they need to sponsorships. 1303 01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:10,880 Speaker 5: They need the job is the money that's going to 1304 01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:12,720 Speaker 5: be paying most times for the salaries of the people 1305 01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:15,640 Speaker 5: that are on the air. Which is interesting, right, because 1306 01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:18,040 Speaker 5: that's a deeper perspective for people to look at, especially 1307 01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:20,520 Speaker 5: from the audience standpoint. But a lot of times you 1308 01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:23,040 Speaker 5: hear them say I spoke to his dad or I 1309 01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:27,520 Speaker 5: spoke to his agent, and so that's what I'm going, right, 1310 01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:31,080 Speaker 5: So I'm thinking, like, really, did you really? How often 1311 01:07:31,120 --> 01:07:31,880 Speaker 5: does that happen? 1312 01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:34,960 Speaker 10: And when it's mischieved, it happens all the time. And 1313 01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:38,520 Speaker 10: there are times that I like came in and said 1314 01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:42,640 Speaker 10: stuff and said no, that that that that that was 1315 01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:43,280 Speaker 10: not what was. 1316 01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:47,320 Speaker 4: Said, spoke to a source close to the family. 1317 01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:50,800 Speaker 10: Yeah, And those those are like because I said, I've 1318 01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:53,760 Speaker 10: just said to people and uh and I stand by this, 1319 01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:59,160 Speaker 10: you can use my name not like that, And they're like, wait, 1320 01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:01,520 Speaker 10: what I said, yeah, you can use my name, and 1321 01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:04,120 Speaker 10: you don't have to say sources. Say, you don't have 1322 01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:06,280 Speaker 10: to say friend of the family. You can use my name, 1323 01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:08,760 Speaker 10: and when I give you the authority to use my name, 1324 01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:12,080 Speaker 10: you can run with it. And so therefore there's never 1325 01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:17,720 Speaker 10: any confusion about sources close to the family, because a 1326 01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:19,760 Speaker 10: lot of that went on because that was people's way 1327 01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:22,960 Speaker 10: of saying, Hey, I talked to the neighbor who lived 1328 01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:28,880 Speaker 10: five houses down across the street, the cousin who said 1329 01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:33,599 Speaker 10: and it's not accurate because and in some cases people 1330 01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:38,080 Speaker 10: may have presented themselves as in the know. And I'm 1331 01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:42,439 Speaker 10: not saying that journalism is faulty or but I think 1332 01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:45,599 Speaker 10: that in some cases people are presented themselves as being 1333 01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:50,960 Speaker 10: an insider and did not understand the impact of what 1334 01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:51,759 Speaker 10: they were saying. 1335 01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:56,000 Speaker 2: Or yeah, I'm leave that there. 1336 01:08:56,360 --> 01:08:59,360 Speaker 5: Yeah you can leave it right there, because I'm now 1337 01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:02,439 Speaker 5: I'm looking at it from both standpoints, right like there's 1338 01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:06,759 Speaker 5: a parent standpoint and then there's an agent standpoint. Both 1339 01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:11,400 Speaker 5: try to curate an environment. People who look that person 1340 01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:13,559 Speaker 5: shouldn't be, like, I don't think they should be around. 1341 01:09:14,320 --> 01:09:15,920 Speaker 5: Do you need to make that circle a lot tighter 1342 01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:18,400 Speaker 5: during that whole process. He said that very public, like 1343 01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:20,559 Speaker 5: there's a lot of people that I thought I tried. 1344 01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:24,680 Speaker 5: Now my circle is super tight. Are those separate conversations? 1345 01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:27,040 Speaker 5: Are they in one right? As an agent as a 1346 01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:30,120 Speaker 5: parent from protective of somebody that you've known since eight 1347 01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:31,960 Speaker 5: years old, two separate conversations. 1348 01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:36,240 Speaker 10: Yeah, there's a conversation of agent where it's what is 1349 01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:40,080 Speaker 10: good for the brand, and then there's the conversation as 1350 01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:42,280 Speaker 10: parent where that person. 1351 01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:42,960 Speaker 2: Will get you in trouble. 1352 01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:49,040 Speaker 10: Two different conversations, two different tones, two different everything. So 1353 01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:52,080 Speaker 10: the agent conversation is that's not good for your brand, 1354 01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:56,480 Speaker 10: and here's why, and here's all the proof. The parent conversation, 1355 01:09:56,560 --> 01:09:59,160 Speaker 10: and you've had this with your kids. That person right there, 1356 01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:02,840 Speaker 10: you right now, don't call me because that person is 1357 01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:04,360 Speaker 10: going to get you in a lot of trouble. 1358 01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:08,120 Speaker 9: So how is your experience being a black woman in 1359 01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:12,800 Speaker 9: a male dominated industry. 1360 01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:17,000 Speaker 10: I there are times that it pops up. So I 1361 01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:20,600 Speaker 10: remember I was in a meeting and this is a 1362 01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:24,519 Speaker 10: higher up meeting and I was the only woman in 1363 01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:30,640 Speaker 10: the room, and it was I was not seen. And 1364 01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:36,320 Speaker 10: then there are other times that it's celebrated where guys 1365 01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:38,920 Speaker 10: are like, hey, I want to make sure that I 1366 01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:41,240 Speaker 10: help you, that I support you because I love what 1367 01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:44,000 Speaker 10: it is that you're doing. So it's just it just 1368 01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:47,559 Speaker 10: depends on the moment, it depends on the culture, it 1369 01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:51,720 Speaker 10: depends on where people are, where it pops up, and 1370 01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:55,479 Speaker 10: sometimes it doesn't and people are just like, hey, it's 1371 01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:58,960 Speaker 10: there's an emphasis on making sure that you're successful. 1372 01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:00,800 Speaker 7: From an age of stamp point of MAXI and as 1373 01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:01,160 Speaker 7: an agent. 1374 01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:02,200 Speaker 5: Uh. 1375 01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:06,920 Speaker 7: Athletes have other interests. Are investing. 1376 01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:11,040 Speaker 5: Obviously dad's a CFO, so it's finance, investing in real 1377 01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:13,840 Speaker 5: estate style. Are those things that we're having conversations about 1378 01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:17,040 Speaker 5: angel invest investing? Are we having conversations about that? 1379 01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:18,000 Speaker 4: Yeah? 1380 01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:21,480 Speaker 2: His dad is tough in that. I bring the opportunity 1381 01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:22,479 Speaker 2: because I'm a girl. 1382 01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:24,360 Speaker 10: I like the shop, so I look at everything and 1383 01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:26,839 Speaker 10: I'm like yep, yep, yep, and his dad's like nope, 1384 01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:28,200 Speaker 10: what were you thinking? 1385 01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:30,040 Speaker 2: Nope, nope, no. 1386 01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:33,439 Speaker 4: So he handles all the finance. Yeah, he really before you. 1387 01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:35,360 Speaker 2: Invest, Yeah, he does a lot of that. 1388 01:11:36,439 --> 01:11:38,439 Speaker 10: And then Kai has you know, another team as well, 1389 01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:42,759 Speaker 10: so he's like, there, we have what we created because 1390 01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:46,639 Speaker 10: I'm the shopper was levels of. 1391 01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:49,120 Speaker 2: Investment levels. 1392 01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:52,280 Speaker 10: So we run it through all of these levels to 1393 01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:54,200 Speaker 10: make sure that none of us are missing anything. So 1394 01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:56,760 Speaker 10: we have our legal team, we have our tax and 1395 01:11:56,800 --> 01:11:59,880 Speaker 10: accounting team to make sure that this makes sense. We 1396 01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:02,040 Speaker 10: have another team that sort of looks at it and 1397 01:12:02,080 --> 01:12:04,280 Speaker 10: if everybody kind of signs off on it and says 1398 01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:07,600 Speaker 10: this is good, then we present it to Kai and 1399 01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:11,920 Speaker 10: kind of get his feedback on it. Now, some people 1400 01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:13,800 Speaker 10: are like, I hate that that you have to talk 1401 01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:15,920 Speaker 10: to so many different people, but it just works for 1402 01:12:16,040 --> 01:12:19,360 Speaker 10: us in terms of because there's things that you know, 1403 01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:21,600 Speaker 10: I may miss, his dad may miss, and if you 1404 01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:23,400 Speaker 10: have so many people looking at it, it just kind 1405 01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:24,559 Speaker 10: of keeps everybody solid. 1406 01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:26,240 Speaker 7: It's tough to miss when everybody's looking. 1407 01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:28,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure. 1408 01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:31,879 Speaker 9: I feel like the agent's responsibility is also to protect 1409 01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:38,120 Speaker 9: their client. So is that part of your your job 1410 01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:41,519 Speaker 9: title as well? Like do you look at okay before 1411 01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:43,040 Speaker 9: he speaks here, let me look at it. 1412 01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:43,880 Speaker 4: Do I do this? 1413 01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:46,960 Speaker 9: Do I look at the photo shoot to make sure 1414 01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:47,840 Speaker 9: the picture is like is that? 1415 01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:53,519 Speaker 10: Yeah, every every which way. Sometimes he does this. All 1416 01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:56,040 Speaker 10: of my kids do this, and that's the that's their 1417 01:12:56,760 --> 01:12:59,200 Speaker 10: way of pushing me back to say, you're becoming a 1418 01:12:59,200 --> 01:12:59,880 Speaker 10: little too much. 1419 01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:02,599 Speaker 2: But yeah, every every everything. 1420 01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:04,960 Speaker 9: So what is what's on the vision board for you 1421 01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:07,800 Speaker 9: and your company over the next couple of years. I 1422 01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:09,640 Speaker 9: know obviously you said that you know you're looking to 1423 01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:12,800 Speaker 9: expand and get more clients. But what yeah, how how 1424 01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:15,720 Speaker 9: was you like, Yeah, your enterprise to being So. 1425 01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:17,640 Speaker 10: We want to do probably in the next two to 1426 01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:20,960 Speaker 10: three years, like a billion dollars in deals in deals. Yeah, 1427 01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:26,080 Speaker 10: So that's that's on our most immediate The other side 1428 01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:31,479 Speaker 10: of it is obviously bringing in clients. And so we 1429 01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:33,840 Speaker 10: have that magic number of where we want to be 1430 01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:37,160 Speaker 10: by way of clients over the next two to three years. 1431 01:13:37,439 --> 01:13:40,360 Speaker 4: And is there new clients from college or a client 1432 01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:46,040 Speaker 4: in college or a like mixture, mixture of veterans. 1433 01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:53,120 Speaker 10: Yeah, veterans, uh, college, just that that whole mixture we 1434 01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:56,320 Speaker 10: want to We've talked a lot about creating a collective 1435 01:13:57,240 --> 01:14:01,000 Speaker 10: of independent agents that that we can use. 1436 01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:01,639 Speaker 2: As a resource. 1437 01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:06,680 Speaker 10: I've had a lot of conversations with Jalen's brother Q 1438 01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:10,400 Speaker 10: about how can we because there's a lot of this 1439 01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:13,879 Speaker 10: thought of independence that a lot of players and athletes 1440 01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:16,839 Speaker 10: are thinking about, and so how do we be this resource, 1441 01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:20,960 Speaker 10: this collective resource? And I'm excellent at this, You're excellent 1442 01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:22,880 Speaker 10: at that. How do we bring it together and really 1443 01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:28,160 Speaker 10: create this agent collective that we can all pull and 1444 01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:32,440 Speaker 10: grow and create from. So we're just having those conversations 1445 01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:35,840 Speaker 10: and that's that's pretty much it. 1446 01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:39,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't want the media is important, and I 1447 01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:43,000 Speaker 5: think as our platform, I want to highlight the philanthropy 1448 01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:47,639 Speaker 5: that happens from your side and your team. And obviously 1449 01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:51,120 Speaker 5: every time there's been an issue or because we've always 1450 01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:54,000 Speaker 5: seen Kyrie do need, does. 1451 01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:57,640 Speaker 7: It get highlighted? Probably should more so I would I 1452 01:14:57,680 --> 01:14:59,080 Speaker 7: want to give you the floyd to talk about all 1453 01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:01,920 Speaker 7: the planthropy that you've been doing over the past three 1454 01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:03,360 Speaker 7: to five years, because it's a lot. 1455 01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:06,080 Speaker 2: It is a lot, it's a lot. 1456 01:15:07,720 --> 01:15:10,040 Speaker 10: A lot of it is we want to be angels 1457 01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:15,080 Speaker 10: in this because the minute that it becomes public, you 1458 01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:17,360 Speaker 10: get flooded with everybody. 1459 01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:19,400 Speaker 2: Has a need. Some of those needs are authentic, some 1460 01:15:19,479 --> 01:15:20,960 Speaker 2: of them are not. 1461 01:15:22,439 --> 01:15:31,040 Speaker 10: But I know that Kay's focus is on entrepreneurship, women, maternity, 1462 01:15:31,439 --> 01:15:35,599 Speaker 10: and health for women that are having babies and look 1463 01:15:35,680 --> 01:15:38,400 Speaker 10: to expand their families. And that's something very different from 1464 01:15:38,439 --> 01:15:41,160 Speaker 10: an athlete that you would say, why would an athlete 1465 01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:44,800 Speaker 10: be interested in it? We know the mortality rates that 1466 01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:48,080 Speaker 10: exist for black women and given birth. So that's something 1467 01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:52,840 Speaker 10: that he really wants to kind of get behind and. 1468 01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:55,559 Speaker 2: Figure out pathways for. It is. 1469 01:15:57,280 --> 01:16:02,400 Speaker 10: The Native American community. How do we create opportunity there? 1470 01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:04,599 Speaker 10: And we're working on something that we hope to announce 1471 01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:09,440 Speaker 10: relatively soon where that would create a pipeline of opportunity 1472 01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:15,960 Speaker 10: and monetary gain for within that community. It is food scarcity, 1473 01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:21,360 Speaker 10: food deserts. How do we help out there? It is education. 1474 01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:27,439 Speaker 10: It is financial literacy because, like I said, we as 1475 01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:30,120 Speaker 10: people of color, we're raising our hands left and right 1476 01:16:30,160 --> 01:16:33,080 Speaker 10: and saying, help me invest, Teach me about money, because 1477 01:16:33,080 --> 01:16:35,800 Speaker 10: there's so much that we don't understand and know. 1478 01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:38,800 Speaker 2: Mental health is another one that is. 1479 01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:45,000 Speaker 10: A big focus for us in recognizing that we all 1480 01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:48,720 Speaker 10: have needs. It's not you know, and you should not 1481 01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:51,400 Speaker 10: be ashamed to say that. There are days that I 1482 01:16:51,479 --> 01:16:52,040 Speaker 10: wake up and. 1483 01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:52,400 Speaker 4: I'm just. 1484 01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:55,720 Speaker 10: And there are things that are going on that I 1485 01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:57,800 Speaker 10: need to talk to somebody about. And so we're just 1486 01:16:57,880 --> 01:17:02,960 Speaker 10: trying to figure out pathways to create opportunities for people 1487 01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:06,840 Speaker 10: to have real, honest conversations about mental health and those 1488 01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:10,080 Speaker 10: issues that a lot of people are battling in silence. 1489 01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:12,519 Speaker 2: So that's that's the name. 1490 01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:14,080 Speaker 7: A few yes, and we thank you. 1491 01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:14,679 Speaker 4: That's a lot. 1492 01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:17,320 Speaker 7: We thank you because we see it for sure. 1493 01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:20,599 Speaker 4: So yeah, thank you for joining us. Met the whole family. 1494 01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:22,880 Speaker 9: Now your husband, like you said, we met him in Utah, 1495 01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:26,759 Speaker 9: had a great conversation and Kyle, we got to spend 1496 01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:29,080 Speaker 9: some time with him, so I know he's actually watches 1497 01:17:29,640 --> 01:17:32,800 Speaker 9: the program, so shout out to him. Definitely the best 1498 01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:34,320 Speaker 9: ball hands I love of all the time we have. 1499 01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:37,639 Speaker 7: That's a fact. That's a fact. We're not arguing that. Yeah, 1500 01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:38,160 Speaker 7: that's a fact. 1501 01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:40,439 Speaker 9: Well, just just a good dude, like I said, and 1502 01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:42,280 Speaker 9: you know, we spent a couple of hours with him. 1503 01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:43,840 Speaker 9: You just kind of get a feel for somebody. So 1504 01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:47,559 Speaker 9: he was very low key, reserved, like person were talking 1505 01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:51,880 Speaker 9: about rap, Yeah, were talking about rap, you know, just 1506 01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:52,840 Speaker 9: a variety of different things. 1507 01:17:53,240 --> 01:17:55,080 Speaker 7: We was right. Just for the record, we was right, 1508 01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:56,400 Speaker 7: me and you We was right. 1509 01:17:56,520 --> 01:17:58,000 Speaker 9: So yeah, we had a lot, We had a lot 1510 01:17:58,040 --> 01:17:59,920 Speaker 9: of We had a great conversation. So shout out to Kyrie. 1511 01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:03,400 Speaker 9: But keep up the great work. You know, it's definitely 1512 01:18:03,479 --> 01:18:07,400 Speaker 9: needed to highlight people like yourself because there's a lot 1513 01:18:07,400 --> 01:18:10,479 Speaker 9: of young ladies that I'm sure probably want to get 1514 01:18:10,479 --> 01:18:12,800 Speaker 9: into the world of sports, but don't know how, right, 1515 01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:14,240 Speaker 9: and then it's like if you don't have a road 1516 01:18:14,240 --> 01:18:16,000 Speaker 9: map to follow up, even if you just have somebody 1517 01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:18,840 Speaker 9: look at like I'm sure you know a lot of 1518 01:18:19,240 --> 01:18:21,960 Speaker 9: people have looked at Rich Paul as somebody that's breaking 1519 01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:22,320 Speaker 9: the mold. 1520 01:18:22,520 --> 01:18:24,520 Speaker 2: I'll say, he's he's about godfathers. 1521 01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:26,160 Speaker 4: Rich. Shout out to Rich. 1522 01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:31,960 Speaker 9: A friend of the friend of the rich investments godfather 1523 01:18:32,160 --> 01:18:34,559 Speaker 9: go invest fest too. So you know, but people like 1524 01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:37,839 Speaker 9: that is important, right because they're not coming from traditional paths. 1525 01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:42,240 Speaker 9: So you know, it gives hope and inspiration to people. 1526 01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:48,040 Speaker 9: So that's definitely important. So keep up the great work. Yeah, 1527 01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:50,840 Speaker 9: let's continue to stay in dialogue, Let's continue to work 1528 01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:52,800 Speaker 9: together and anything that we can do to be of help. 1529 01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:54,120 Speaker 4: Just let us know. 1530 01:18:54,360 --> 01:18:56,760 Speaker 2: Thank you. I appreciate you, guys. I had a good time. 1531 01:18:56,880 --> 01:18:57,680 Speaker 7: Oh, thank you for coming. 1532 01:18:57,720 --> 01:19:00,680 Speaker 9: Appreciate it. Appreciate it all right, guys, thank you for 1533 01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:01,920 Speaker 9: rocking us. To see you next week. 1534 01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:02,639 Speaker 4: Peace. Peace. 1535 01:19:03,160 --> 01:19:06,840 Speaker 1: An illegal alien from Guatemala charged with raping a child 1536 01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:10,680 Speaker 1: in Massachusetts. An MS thirteen gang member from Al Salvador 1537 01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:15,040 Speaker 1: accused of murdering a Texas man of Venezuelan charged with 1538 01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:19,000 Speaker 1: filming and selling child pornography in Michigan. These are just 1539 01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:22,879 Speaker 1: some of the heinous migrant criminals caught because of President 1540 01:19:22,920 --> 01:19:26,439 Speaker 1: Donald J. Trump's leadership. 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