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Speaker 2: But the Chiefs use a.
Speaker 1: Dominant second half to pull away from the Commanders by
Speaker 1: the score of twenty eight to seven. Patrick Mahomes tosses
Speaker 1: three touchdown passes in the second half, as you can
Speaker 1: see the numbers right there, and they win comfortably twenty
Speaker 1: eight to seven. You know, watching this game on you,
Speaker 1: I just thought the commander of squad the two mani
Speaker 1: opportunities in the first half, they had an opportunity and
Speaker 1: the ball hits Deboy in the face and Mike Dana
Speaker 1: intercepts it and they come up short on a fourth
Speaker 1: down where he tosses out of bounds. But I thought
Speaker 1: they had some really good opportunities in the first half
Speaker 1: to really apply some pressure. They were doing a great
Speaker 1: job of getting the ball lot quick. I thought Marcus
Speaker 1: Mariota did a great job, you know, and Cliff Kingsburg
Speaker 1: did a great job of putting them in situations where
Speaker 1: they could get the ball lot quick. A lot of misdirections,
Speaker 1: use Marioda's legs.
Speaker 2: A little bit.
Speaker 1: But when you'd have when you're on the road and
Speaker 1: you don't take advantage of opportunities when they're presented for you,
Speaker 1: When a team gets their rhythm, especially at their home,
Speaker 1: they're probably gonna pull away for you from you. And
Speaker 1: you know, you saw are very uncharacteristic. Some turnovers. Uh,
Speaker 1: if you notice that rap was a terrible route by
Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown. Oh Jo, how you in the slot, you
Speaker 1: already got leverage on him. How you take two steps
Speaker 1: and stop start looking back for the ball?
Speaker 2: You know you?
Speaker 1: Hey, even my Hall went to the sideline and row
Speaker 1: and you notice he disappeared after that, didn't?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, absolutely, Listen.
Speaker 4: It all comes down to being sharp, being sharp and precise.
Speaker 4: Regardless of what route you're running, you always have to
Speaker 4: be stay friendly to your quarterback and understand you know
Speaker 4: how to not only get open, but continue to create
Speaker 4: separation to be able to catch any and everything. You know,
Speaker 4: for for Hollywood as long as he been playing the
Speaker 4: game of football, you know better than that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't run the right. You got to put
Speaker 2: pressure on the DP. You got to make him think.
Speaker 1: You're going deep, so he's gonna want to get on
Speaker 1: top of you if you start backing. Oh ya, if
Speaker 1: you take three steps and you looking for the ball.
Speaker 1: You don't run no goat route like that? Who runs
Speaker 1: a go route like that?
Speaker 3: You're not fooling nobody. You're not gonna fool nobody.
Speaker 2: Like that at all.
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm sure that was a situation and
Speaker 1: then he hits Trail in the head with the balls
Speaker 1: and it pops up in there and be waged end
Speaker 1: up picking that off. But I thought once he got
Speaker 1: it going, guys made play for him. He did a
Speaker 1: great job of using his legs, sometimes to run his
Speaker 1: way out of harm's way and sometimes to buy time.
Speaker 1: You see him hit Rashid Rice on a couple of
Speaker 1: plays like that he found for a touchdown, the running
Speaker 1: back for a touchdown. You see him a travel. He
Speaker 1: hit Travel a couple of times after using his legs
Speaker 1: to buy times. But I thought overall, once they got
Speaker 1: it going in the second half, they had drives of
Speaker 1: what ninety plus yards, eighty yards, seventy yards, and it
Speaker 1: really broke the ball game open because for the first
Speaker 1: half O Joe, I thought that the Commanders defense did
Speaker 1: a great job on him.
Speaker 3: Listen, they did a phenomenal job on him.
Speaker 4: This and whether they plays on the whether they played man,
Speaker 4: they added pressure, and they played a really good game.
Speaker 4: The one thing I don't like about the first half
Speaker 4: for the Commanders and the Chiefs. One of the few
Speaker 4: teams that when they when they turned the ball over
Speaker 4: commanded after the capitalize you got to make them pay.
Speaker 3: You got them, you got to make them pay because
Speaker 3: at whatever.
Speaker 4: Point the Chiefs catch that momentum and find that rhythm,
Speaker 4: you want to stretch that lead as far as possible
Speaker 4: to make the game a little easier, make it a
Speaker 4: little more difficult for them to almost into a point
Speaker 4: a sins on. You got to make them, damn there
Speaker 4: one dimensional where they don't have to throw to get
Speaker 4: themself back in the game. But the game was too
Speaker 4: close once they caught fire, and then my home started
Speaker 4: processing that information a little faster, or y'all plays on, Well, hell.
Speaker 3: I'm finna be surgical.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll find every hole because every time there's a
Speaker 4: defensive play.
Speaker 3: Called, there's always a whole in my home.
Speaker 4: Knew exactly where to go with the ball every goddamn
Speaker 4: time those players were the defense actually called the right play. Okay,
Speaker 4: you got me this time, but I'm gonna beat you
Speaker 4: with my legs. Then he go beat you with the guy.
Speaker 3: But it's goddamn legs.
Speaker 1: So I think in your right about that, especially when
Speaker 1: you're on the road. When you're on the road, you
Speaker 1: try to keep the crowd out of the game as
Speaker 1: long as you possibly can As long as they're not cheering,
Speaker 1: as long as they're sitting on the hand at the
Speaker 1: edge of their seat and they're nervous, you're winning. But
Speaker 1: when you get those opportunities, because the momentum is gonna swing.
Speaker 1: If you look at the first half, the Commanders had
Speaker 1: the momentum. Now what happened is that in the second
Speaker 1: half the Chiefs got the momentum. And when they got
Speaker 1: the momentum, it went fourteen, it went fourteen, seven, twenty one, seven,
Speaker 1: twenty eight seven, and the blink of n and the
Speaker 1: game's over.
Speaker 3: Hey, it was it was a rap and they where
Speaker 3: they scored what three straight possessions.
Speaker 1: Rep possessions and then they ran the ball, you know,
Speaker 1: ran the clock down, laying the box or they could have.
Speaker 1: Let I'm surprised that didn't, you know, but I just
Speaker 1: thought they did a great job. They were really really bounced. Oho.
Speaker 1: You look at it. Targets. Travis Kelson had eight targets.
Speaker 1: Recei Rights had nine targets. They've be your word. They
Speaker 1: had seven targets and you had six catches, nine catches,
Speaker 1: five catches, So you saw what they were doing. He
Speaker 1: bought time and found you on a couple of routes.
Speaker 1: He found about time with his legs and found a
Speaker 1: Kareem Hunt in the m zone with his legs. He's
Speaker 1: done a great job. As he's gotten older, he's doing
Speaker 1: more and more with his legs. He will run, but
Speaker 1: he's really looking to buy time and hope somebody comes open.
Speaker 1: And that's what that's what makes him so dangerous. You
Speaker 1: don't want to bless him because he will come out
Speaker 1: of it. He will jump out the window on you
Speaker 1: and take off running. But he will, but he's also looking.
Speaker 1: He's constantly trying to process this information. Can I throw
Speaker 1: this ball over their head? There is there a gap
Speaker 1: somewhere I can fit this ball in to get me ten, fifteen,
Speaker 1: twenty yards down the field and pick up a first down.
Speaker 1: But I thought they ran the ball. Well, you look
Speaker 1: at Kareem Hunt and Isaiah Pachecko. Is what they did
Speaker 1: running the football. Twelve carries fifty eight yards, nine carries
Speaker 1: forty yards. Mahomes had four carries for thirty yards. Thirty
Speaker 1: rush attempts one hundred and forty eight yards, so basically
Speaker 1: almost five yards of carry.
Speaker 2: That's good enough to win very ballanced.
Speaker 1: Mahomes had two hundred and ninety nine yards passing, three touchdowns,
Speaker 1: two interceptions. Uh, he was sacked three times. I thought
Speaker 1: they did it. I thought Martin did a great job
Speaker 1: of putting pressure on him. They did a great job
Speaker 1: of forcing him out of the pockets. But you got
Speaker 1: when you get there, you gotta get him on the ground.
Speaker 1: I don't know what that last sex. I don't know
Speaker 1: what he was. He saw Mahomes gave himself up. And
Speaker 1: then you're still gonna throw him down right there in
Speaker 1: front of the referee, and you don't think he's gonna
Speaker 1: call he's gonna throw a flag.
Speaker 4: That's frustration, that's all. That's all frustration. That's all frustation
Speaker 4: at that point. And y'all obviously, okay, I can't hit.
Speaker 3: Him all game.
Speaker 4: We haven't been to get towe him all games. He's
Speaker 4: been getting out of the pocket, extending plays. You know what,
Speaker 4: I finally got a whole love him. I'm gonna give
Speaker 4: him a little extra action just to let him know
Speaker 4: I'm here. And it didn't matter at that point.
Speaker 1: No. Uh, And when you look at Locho, I think, uh,
Speaker 1: they didn't run the ball nearly as much as they
Speaker 1: needed to because now all of a sudden, the pressure
Speaker 1: started to get into Mark Mariota. He had eight rushes
Speaker 1: twenty eight yards. Corosky Merrit had nine for twenty five yards.
Speaker 1: That's not enough. And it looks like a McLaurin might
Speaker 1: of nick that growing to that hamstring again because he
Speaker 1: ended up coming out.
Speaker 2: I thought he made some great plays. Hell.
Speaker 1: I thought Debo was a catch right there at the pylon,
Speaker 1: and then I was looking at like, man, that's a
Speaker 1: ketch by McLaurin in the end zone. That was a touchdown. Now,
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily know. If I was an official o cho,
Speaker 1: I would have overruled because I couldn't see that right leg.
Speaker 1: The inside leg did it hit down out of bounds?
Speaker 1: He did get the elbow down, and you look at
Speaker 1: the left leg. The left leg didn't come down, But
Speaker 1: where was that right leg. There was never a clear
Speaker 1: view of where I could see what is right what
Speaker 1: is a right leg was doing? So I probably wouldn't
Speaker 1: have overruted it. But even in real time I thought
Speaker 1: that was those were catches with Devo and McLaurin.
Speaker 2: Hey, but you know, A that was a situation.
Speaker 1: I'm sure they said, oh, that's the cheese, getting home cooking,
Speaker 1: the chiefs getting home cooking.
Speaker 4: Hey wait, listen, I'm not saying the rest of cheating
Speaker 4: where they was cooking.
Speaker 1: I think the thing is, oh joe, if you go
Speaker 1: back and look at it, a lot of them were
Speaker 1: out of position, like that catch on the sideline. There
Speaker 1: were really no officials right there in the vicinity, so
Speaker 1: you got to be in better position. Now they were
Speaker 1: looking at McLaurin when he was in the end zone
Speaker 1: and they're trying to see. But you want to get
Speaker 1: there as close as you possibly can because you got
Speaker 1: a really hard job.
Speaker 2: Is his feet and does he hold on to the ball?
Speaker 1: If I look at where he catches the ball, I
Speaker 1: can't pay attention to his feet. So they really have
Speaker 1: a hard job. And that's really the job of two people.
Speaker 1: That's why you always see him. Check what did you get?
Speaker 1: Was he out of bounds back there? Nah, he didn't
Speaker 1: step out. Okay, what he touched the piline is good.
Speaker 1: So that is a two man job. But the guys
Speaker 1: got to be in position. The guys, the women and
Speaker 1: the men, they need to be in better position to
Speaker 1: make sure they're on top of those calls so they
Speaker 1: can get it right. But it's a tough situation and
Speaker 1: it's only gonna get worse since the implement of gambling.
Speaker 1: And what we're starting to find out now people are
Speaker 1: going now is really gonna up. It's really going to
Speaker 1: ramp up. Say see, I told you I knew it
Speaker 1: all along. Man, you can't fool me. Hot team played
Speaker 1: like this one week and then the next week they
Speaker 1: act like they ain't never seen foot or ball.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And this is the funny thing about it. And
Speaker 4: now now people can say what they want to say.
Speaker 4: You can say the ref cheating, you can say that
Speaker 4: they didn't. But you understand, when you ever have a quarterback,
Speaker 4: when you have a quarterback like Patrick Mahomes, it gives
Speaker 4: you a favorable chance to win any matches, yes, chance
Speaker 4: to win, to win any game.
Speaker 3: Obviously, if there was some turnovers early in this game.
Speaker 4: The commanded what they needed to do to capitalize on
Speaker 4: those turnovers, and you saw what happened. And it's funny
Speaker 4: how the conversation about the Kansas City have kicked. The
Speaker 4: conversation about the Kansas City Chiefs had changed.
Speaker 3: As the weeks have gone on.
Speaker 4: First, they washed they're not the same as they used
Speaker 4: to be the receivers there playing bad. In the first
Speaker 4: two weeks, they started owing two which they haven't they
Speaker 4: haven't done before, to now looking like the Kansas City
Speaker 4: Chiefs of Bowl.
Speaker 3: And it was only a matter of time.
Speaker 4: It was only a matter of time for players getting
Speaker 4: back healthy, Rasiet Rice coming off of the suspension, Hollywood
Speaker 4: Brown being in, Travis Kelcey actually getting back to form.
Speaker 3: And with them, hey, now now they're hitting on all cylindtors.
Speaker 4: And we still probably even had we still haven't even
Speaker 4: seen probably the best Kendid City Chiefs team we can
Speaker 4: see just yet.
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to figure out what happened to Taekwan Thornton.
Speaker 1: How does the guy be be that involved? And I
Speaker 1: understand Rashi Rice coming back, I get that, O Joe,
Speaker 1: But when a guy puts up that kind of numbers,
Speaker 1: you've got to find a way to get him on
Speaker 1: the field.
Speaker 3: They got so many options.
Speaker 1: Man to convinced me to Hollywood Brown is better than
Speaker 1: Taekwan Thornton based on what we've seen this year. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying what he was when he was in Baltimore
Speaker 1: or what the year that he had in Arizona. I'm
Speaker 1: talking about right now based on what you saw Hollywood,
Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown was in there, and Tay Kwan Thornton was
Speaker 1: in there when Rashi Rice wasn't twy, Tay Kwon Tae
Speaker 1: Kwon Thornton was their best receiver.
Speaker 3: He was making some players.
Speaker 4: He may catches, you know, especially d balls was needed
Speaker 4: and it mattered most and I knew that.
Speaker 3: I knew they were going to play like this. I
Speaker 3: understood that.
Speaker 4: That's why when we had him on the show and
Speaker 4: I said, listen, once that door opens for you, make
Speaker 4: sure you put your foot in the air, cross it
Speaker 4: and close the door behind you. Because this is the
Speaker 4: type of game that they play when it comes to business,
Speaker 4: when it comes to those that have already been paid,
Speaker 4: those who were making top dollar, they gonna see the
Speaker 4: field first.
Speaker 1: I get that with Ushi Rice. I get that with
Speaker 1: Roschie Rice because he is their best receiver. Oh Joe,
Speaker 1: we saw the maturation when he came in as a
Speaker 1: rookie and he got better and better and better and better.
Speaker 1: And as the year he was clear cut he was
Speaker 1: the number one receiver. Obviously had I had some issues.
Speaker 1: I think he got nicked and he got that situation,
Speaker 1: got himself. I feel got that behind him, got that
Speaker 1: issue resolved. But I just I'm looking at that.
Speaker 2: Damn.
Speaker 1: You mean to tell me this man can't get on
Speaker 1: the field and get ten plays. He can't get one target,
Speaker 1: he can't get two targets now oo after doing what
Speaker 1: he's done in the absence, she writes, Look, we're not
Speaker 1: trying to start no conflict. But I think everybody in
Speaker 1: Kansas City, and I think people that watched the game,
Speaker 1: follow the game.
Speaker 2: Study the game.
Speaker 1: You're like, hold on, how does a man go from
Speaker 1: playing that well to not even getting in the game,
Speaker 1: barely getting in the game, not getting any targets.
Speaker 3: In a sense, I'm not even upset. And since I'm
Speaker 3: not even upset because I understand the.
Speaker 4: Doors with the way he played when everyone else was out,
Speaker 4: when Hollywood Bride wasn't there, When when Hollywood was there, No, no, no,
Speaker 4: when he when he wasn't there Hollywood, Hollywood wasn't there.
Speaker 2: Yet he was hurt? Where was he at? Not this year?
Speaker 5: What wasn't he hear early on when Taekwan kept making
Speaker 5: making all those players making, ok, it was Hollywood, Xavier
Speaker 5: rights and Xavi, You're worthy and and and and and Taekwan.
Speaker 3: No, no, somebody somebody was missing.
Speaker 4: Somebody was missing from the equation, but missing, okay, either
Speaker 4: either way, either way, Taekwon thought was was arguably easily
Speaker 4: based on what we were.
Speaker 2: Seeing as That's that's all I'm saying.
Speaker 3: But this is the only thing. This is the thing
Speaker 3: I like is you've already put it on film.
Speaker 4: Now, you already put it on film. What you can't
Speaker 4: do when you're actually put in a position to make
Speaker 4: those players, so that door and the opportunity to play
Speaker 4: somewhere else where, they will probably use him and his
Speaker 4: skill set that he does have with that kind of speed,
Speaker 4: it's gonna pay off.
Speaker 2: It just might.
Speaker 4: And it's not gonna pay off where he is now
Speaker 4: because obviously they don't appreciate we was able to do
Speaker 4: because you have too many other options.
Speaker 3: You got too many other options.
Speaker 1: And maybe maybe it's a situation, don't you know, Maybe
Speaker 1: he's nicked. Maybe there's something going on that you and
Speaker 1: I don't know about scenarios out there. Brodamn you know that.
Speaker 3: You know the game, and folks play, you know the game.
Speaker 3: They't play.
Speaker 4: Hold on, Hey, I'm you know, I'm sitting there. I
Speaker 4: gotta I gotta I gotta grab a chair. I'm sitting
Speaker 4: here on my suitcase. And look what I'm sitting there.
Speaker 2: You heard me? Look yeah, love have mercy.
Speaker 3: It's hurt my butt.
Speaker 2: Yeah see.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Xavier, think about xavier' Worthy was injured and now
Speaker 1: Hollywood was there.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's what That's what I meant. That's what I knew.
Speaker 2: It was one of them.
Speaker 4: I knew it was one of them. I just so,
Speaker 4: yeah it was it was Zavier. That's that's but taekwan.
Speaker 2: He maybe it's a situation where.
Speaker 1: He plays the same position as Worthy, Hollywood play pay
Speaker 1: plays a different position because you know, you got two
Speaker 1: speed guys. So maybe that's the situation. But I was,
Speaker 1: I was driving. I was trying to figure out, like
Speaker 1: with damn, how you go from being so productive todamn
Speaker 1: near he damn there inactive.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's that's that's crazy.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 4: I've seen this so many times. I've seen it so
Speaker 4: many times, which is why I don't want to say
Speaker 4: the wrong thing.
Speaker 3: Because they are winning.
Speaker 4: But when you have when you have a team like
Speaker 4: that where they can they can they can plug and
Speaker 4: play different in different positions. And because you have Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 4: It's going to always work regards to who you put
Speaker 4: out there. It's hard to argue the fact on real
Speaker 4: hard to argue the fact.
Speaker 1: And then Juju is so versatile. Juju blocked. Juju make
Speaker 1: the tough catches over the middle. He understands, uh, he
Speaker 1: doesn't miss hot reads. At that situation where they run
Speaker 1: the fake, I'm trying to figure out. I'm like, Noah,
Speaker 1: why would you run a seven rod?
Speaker 2: Bro?
Speaker 1: You just trying to score a touchdown. Don't run that
Speaker 1: in the Aintlena, get that up the field. I'm like, guys, guys,
Speaker 1: do y'all.
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't. I don't get it. I ain't trying.
Speaker 2: I'm trying.
Speaker 1: If I got the defense food and the linebacker is
Speaker 1: trailing me from the inside, I'm not trying to give
Speaker 1: to any yard completion. I'm trying to get a forty
Speaker 1: yard touchdown. And you see how Mahomes threw the ball.
Speaker 1: Mahmes threw him up the field because Bee Wags was
Speaker 1: trailing on the inside. He was like he wanted to
Speaker 1: catch it and get tackled out of bounds. No, Bro,
Speaker 1: take that up the field. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe
Speaker 1: it was set up like that. Maybe it was a
Speaker 1: to be a twenty yard completion and not a forty
Speaker 1: yard touchdown, but that's like, you know, the way we
Speaker 1: ran around, like, look, if somebody's over the top, you're
Speaker 1: flatted it off. If somebody's in the trail, you keep
Speaker 1: it high, right. Yeah, back in the quarterback Carson Wentz,
Speaker 1: it's set that undergo season ending shoulder surgery on his
Speaker 1: non throwing shoulder, O joe, and we'll be placed on
Speaker 1: injured reserve. JJ McCarthy began the season as the starter,
Speaker 1: but who has missed the last six game with a
Speaker 1: high ankle spring. He's expected to play Sunday in Detroit.
Speaker 1: The only backup Minnesota roster is undrafted rookie Max Brosmer.
Speaker 1: JJ is not huh yeah exactly. He's undrafted, so you
Speaker 1: know even less about him. JJ McCarthy is not only
Speaker 1: played two of twenty four regular season games since he
Speaker 1: was drafted with the number ten pick in the twenty
Speaker 1: twenty for a draft. Oh Joe, I got, how bad
Speaker 1: of the Vikings missing Sam Donald?
Speaker 2: Listen?
Speaker 4: They missing Sam Donald very very much, so very much.
Speaker 4: So listen the way Sam Donald played last year. I
Speaker 4: still for the life of me. Can't understand why you
Speaker 4: let him walk out that door. I just don't understand
Speaker 4: for the life of me, and not knowing what you
Speaker 4: were getting with JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 3: Understand he was a high round pick. I knew what
Speaker 3: he did in Michigan. I gotta get that.
Speaker 4: But listen, there's no problem with him sitting behind and
Speaker 4: learning from Sam Donald. With the way he played last year.
Speaker 4: You don't let a quarterback, as hard as it is
Speaker 4: to come by quarterbacks that you can find that can
Speaker 4: maximize everything you want to do offensively. He did everything well.
Speaker 4: He didn't look like the Sam Donald with the Jets.
Speaker 4: He didn't like the Sam Donald and got damn Carolina.
Speaker 4: But for some reason, everything in Minnesota it looked good.
Speaker 4: He looked very good, similar to how Daniel Jones looked
Speaker 4: with the goddamn Annapolis Coats. Like a completely different person.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, a completely.
Speaker 4: Different person, and the same person is still carrying on
Speaker 4: right now in Seattle.
Speaker 2: He's still yes, And now you're struggling.
Speaker 4: Now you're having quarterback balls. He didn't know what to do,
Speaker 4: And I think they're not playing JJ McCarthy on purpose,
Speaker 4: Ain't It can't be nothing wrong with him can.
Speaker 2: I mean, he was out a long time with a
Speaker 2: hy ankles frame.
Speaker 1: Normally guys get guys were getting back in three high
Speaker 1: end four week.
Speaker 2: This will be six weeks that he's missing. I'm just
Speaker 2: saying no, right, you know, Goodwill.
Speaker 4: Ain't nothing wrong with that ankle. The ain't nothing wrong
Speaker 4: with that ankle. You know that boy jj A justin Jefferson. Boy,
Speaker 4: he gonna cut up this week, you hear me. But
Speaker 4: let let things don't go right, Let things don't go
Speaker 4: the way they should be. You know, they love they
Speaker 4: love calling players divas and all this that are passionate
Speaker 4: and want to win and understand that in order for
Speaker 4: me to have success, in order for us to have
Speaker 4: team success, we got to have the most important position,
Speaker 4: have a good person, a good player with the ball,
Speaker 4: and we don't have that. Hey, them great players that
Speaker 4: we all love. They started to act up now and
Speaker 4: you let you laugh, but they loved the Hey, they
Speaker 4: love the I'm not sure where that where that where
Speaker 4: that term diva came from.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure you know, but you know when when
Speaker 2: came from y'all misbehavior?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Hey, we don't misbehave. We're just passionate about the
Speaker 4: position that we do.
Speaker 2: Play, we'll call it. Yeah.
Speaker 4: We'd like to show a.
Speaker 3: Little theater, you know, a little in it, a little energy.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: When we do it, it's called divas. When they do it,
Speaker 4: it's called passion.
Speaker 2: Huh, it's called passion.
Speaker 4: It's called yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, the words of
Speaker 4: definition change depending on them.
Speaker 3: Let me, let me. I'm not gonna go there.
Speaker 1: It's been reported that went tored his labor and dislocated
Speaker 1: his shouder in week five and it's still played with
Speaker 1: let that sink in. So he got a torn labor
Speaker 1: and his normal non throwing shoulder and it's located, and
Speaker 1: you're asking him to play through that. You got a
Speaker 1: guy that you took with the number ten pick last year,
Speaker 1: that you were so said that he was gonna be
Speaker 1: your guy. That you let a guy walk out the
Speaker 1: door that had thrown like thirty plus high thirty touchdown
Speaker 1: for you and I think fewer than fifteen interception if
Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken. So you let that guy walk out
Speaker 1: the door. But now you got a guy that's a journeyman.
Speaker 1: He's turning into a journman. Yes, he was the number
Speaker 1: two pick in the draft and Yeah, he had a
Speaker 1: nice three year run and feeling them at all fell
Speaker 1: apart and he's bounced around every since. But so now
Speaker 1: he's a jernaman quarterback. You willing to keep a journeman.
Speaker 1: You're willing to ask a journeyman with a torn laborerm
Speaker 1: and a different what's being reported, I don't know, I'm
Speaker 1: just reading what's being reported. You're asking a guy that's
Speaker 1: a journyman quarterback that has a torn laborer and a
Speaker 1: dislocated non throwd shoulder to go out there and gut
Speaker 1: it up instead of putting a guy there that was
Speaker 1: a high draft pick that you believed so much in,
Speaker 1: a guy that you saw go through the totality of
Speaker 1: a season and play exceptionally well, you let him walk
Speaker 1: out the door.
Speaker 4: Hey, I know what Sam Donald looks like before he left.
Speaker 4: Might have left a bad taste in a lot of
Speaker 4: people's mouths. But the position he puts you in in
Speaker 4: the regular season to even be in contention to be
Speaker 4: in the playoffs, it was phenomenal.
Speaker 3: It was a great run.
Speaker 4: And it was a kind of run where you bring
Speaker 4: someone like that back who gives you a chance, He
Speaker 4: puts you in position he allows you to maximize what
Speaker 4: you want to do offensively with his decision making and
Speaker 4: chemistry that he built with Hodginson, Addison and Justin Jefferson.
Speaker 3: You know you let that walk out.
Speaker 4: The door because now you have a situation like you
Speaker 4: do now where we're saying, God damn. JJ McCarthy has
Speaker 4: been injured on the sideline with a high angole spring
Speaker 4: for six weeks.
Speaker 3: I know that's a lot.
Speaker 4: I know the devil is a lot. Somebody lying. I
Speaker 4: don't know who it is because now you're not sure.
Speaker 4: Now you really don't want to put him out there
Speaker 4: based on what you saw already when he was when
Speaker 4: he had the opportunity to get out there, it didn't
Speaker 4: look like it should It doesn't look like you guys
Speaker 4: made the right choice.
Speaker 3: So now you're lying on Carson Wentz to stay the day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, look and he looked O Joe. He's on in
Speaker 1: this second year, so he could get better. But I
Speaker 1: had my questions about him because they ran the ball
Speaker 1: way more at Michigan than they threw it. So I
Speaker 1: was always like, Okay, what happens when they when they're
Speaker 1: gonna require you to throw the ball the days of
Speaker 1: you just being able to run the football. You gotta
Speaker 1: throw it in this league. I don't care who you are,
Speaker 1: They're gonna come a time that you're gonna have to
Speaker 1: ma and more time than not, you're gonna need to
Speaker 1: throw the football. And so I was always a little
Speaker 1: leary on that part. Now I will say this, I look,
Speaker 1: I thought they could have kept Sam Donald, but I
Speaker 1: knew they wouldn't keep Sam Donald for the simple fact
Speaker 1: of the money. And they tied up into JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 1: He's the number ten pick in the draft.
Speaker 2: O jo. But it wasn't a lot of money.
Speaker 1: Now, if Minnesota had back to Brinks truck up and said, okay,
Speaker 1: we got forty we got forty forty five fifty million,
Speaker 1: I get Minnesota. But this is a very digestible contract.
Speaker 1: This was almost like a Baker Mayfield contract. Thirty million
Speaker 1: if if is the lower level of a starting quarterback.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 1: And so I was a little surprised that they didn't
Speaker 1: that they didn't go to thirty, that they didn't look
Speaker 1: at least for another year or two.
Speaker 2: Hell if. And I get it, this is not a
Speaker 2: very fair assessment. But your love rode the bench.
Speaker 1: Now he's backing up somebody much more substantial than proving.
Speaker 1: But he sought his ass on the bench. Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: sought the bench, so there's no harm in that. And look,
Speaker 1: if Sam Donald doesn't make it this year, but Sam
Speaker 1: Donald is not old. Sam Dollard's twenty six, so if
Speaker 1: he continued to play, well, hell, I move off from
Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy passed, I ship his ass out. But JJ
Speaker 1: McCarthy's what how much younger is JJ McCarthy than Sam
Speaker 1: Donald or ash? Because I think Sam Donald's twenty six
Speaker 1: years of age, so it's not like he's thirty thirty two.
Speaker 1: And plus you're dealing with a quarterback, so they, you know,
Speaker 1: they like dog years. That twenty that twenty six is
Speaker 1: really like fourteen. Oh yeah, so it's not like other positions.
Speaker 1: How old is JJ McCarthy and how old is Sam Donald? Okay,
Speaker 1: Sam Donald's twenty eight, j J McCarthy's twenty two only
Speaker 1: twenty two? Twenty two?
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, listen.
Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not a GM, I'm not an owner,
Speaker 4: but I understand I know who gives our best chance
Speaker 4: to win, and I'm not gambling regards of him being
Speaker 4: the number ten pick. There's no problem with him saying
Speaker 4: he has a he has a team friendly contract, even
Speaker 4: being a number six.
Speaker 3: I'm bringing Donald back and.
Speaker 4: Giving him that lower tier, no disrespect. I'm speaking in
Speaker 4: football terms of in quarterback money, to see what he
Speaker 4: can do for us the next two or three years.
Speaker 1: They had lead the next two before I have to
Speaker 1: because I really don't have to make a decision on
Speaker 1: saying on JJ McCarthy, oh yo until your year four
Speaker 1: go in the year five, I got to make a
Speaker 1: decision so I don't have to do.
Speaker 2: A deal with him.
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, guys that are playing get deals done
Speaker 1: after their third year if they're that guy. So I
Speaker 1: get that. But theoretically I can go in there. I
Speaker 1: could go into year four says Okay, I've gotten two
Speaker 1: years of Sam Donald. I think we've matched them out. Okay, JJ,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you a year to prove it, and
Speaker 1: then with Hey, but I'm not.
Speaker 2: In the sision.
Speaker 1: But I think the thing is Ojo going into that
Speaker 1: year that year four, Now I got to pick up
Speaker 1: his fifth year option.
Speaker 4: Hey, and one thing about it too, You know what
Speaker 4: I don't like. You know, I think it's the perfect
Speaker 4: situation for him. You played at Michigan, so you used
Speaker 4: to being in that type of environment. Obviously, you come
Speaker 4: from a school where you ran the ball, you know,
Speaker 4: a high percentage of the time. But your quarterback, your quarterback.
Speaker 4: You're in the NFL now, and if you can throw
Speaker 4: the ball to Geordanadison, Hockinson and Justin Jefferson, you don't belong.
Speaker 3: No, you just don't.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, And there's what you just don't be long
Speaker 4: because that's one of the better receiving cores in the NFL.
Speaker 4: And even if even if you can't bring yourself to
Speaker 4: their level of play, they're so good they can hide
Speaker 4: whatever weaknesses you do have as a quarterback, and the
Speaker 4: fact that he can play. Going at the week six
Speaker 4: and we talk about it's still like Anko Spring, something
Speaker 4: may't right and the damn sure, hang on Spring, that's
Speaker 4: not it. I mean we know that, and I'm not
Speaker 4: sure what they're trying to hide. But whatever weaknesses that
Speaker 4: he may have as a quarterback, they have to find
Speaker 4: a way to hide it because you have the players
Speaker 4: around him that can hide it. You have to players
Speaker 4: around them can hide it.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: I think the thing is, oh, Joe, you can only
Speaker 1: hide it for so long. It's like in easter egg
Speaker 1: they might not find it, but somebody's gonna find the eggs.
Speaker 1: So whatever your weakness is as a quarterback, O Joe,
Speaker 1: we gonna find it sooner or later, because as long
Speaker 1: as you continue to play, we're gonna find out where
Speaker 1: you're weak at. That's just that's just that's just hide.
Speaker 1: That's just how it is. And so, uh, I agree
Speaker 1: with you. I just knew based on the NFL, the
Speaker 1: number ten pick, they really like this guy that But
Speaker 1: and also I don't know if it's truly like reports
Speaker 1: that he wanted to be guaranteed in the starting job.
Speaker 2: Seattle guaranteed him a starting job.
Speaker 3: Okay, you're talking about Sam Donald. Okay, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 2: And so under those circumstances, but it's hard for me
Speaker 2: to believe, Ojoe, somebody gonna pay you thirty million dollars
Speaker 2: and you don't start.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And there are there aren't very many places that
Speaker 4: he could have gone to after he left Minnesota where
Speaker 4: they weren't going to guarantee me.
Speaker 3: They guarantee him the starting job.
Speaker 4: It wasn't anybody that you're gonna have to look over
Speaker 4: your shoulder and understand, Okay, their pressures on me. If
Speaker 4: I don't play well, they're probably gonna put this guy
Speaker 4: in you. You're in a great You're in a great spot.
Speaker 4: I think Minnesota will have been a great spot for
Speaker 4: him to come back. I'm not sure what mentioned. There's
Speaker 4: a reason why. There's a reason why I'm not an owner,
Speaker 4: because that's, you know, the choice of the decision I
Speaker 4: would have made. And now he's in Seattle and he's flourishing.
Speaker 4: He is flourishing. JSN are having a fing ball.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they and I think O Joe when they moved
Speaker 1: on from they moved on from Genoa. Now you look
Speaker 1: at the situation. They moved on from d K, they
Speaker 1: moved on from Lockett. It seems like Locket with the Tennessee.
Speaker 1: Now he's going to be reunited with Pete Carroll and
Speaker 1: Gino and in Las Vegas. Uh, maybe a lot of
Speaker 1: people like, man, what do they have? They got Jackson
Speaker 1: Smith and Jigbu, they got js in and he is phenomenal.
Speaker 4: Well and listen what we what we can do as well?
Speaker 4: Because he's not too far removed from winning the triple Crown.
Speaker 4: I love Cooper Cup. He might not be the Cooper
Speaker 4: Cup of old. Yeah, Cooper Cup.
Speaker 2: At they can still make plays.
Speaker 3: You can still make plays.
Speaker 4: He can still he's still one of the butter butter
Speaker 4: route runners, one of the better creatives, like to say
Speaker 4: artistry when it comes to running routes.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Still, he's still one of those despite what people may think.
Speaker 1: He's just not He's not going to be used like that.
Speaker 1: That's not Sean mcvay's system. Sean McVay. If you look
Speaker 1: at the way Sean McVay used Cooper Cup, you look
Speaker 1: at the way Sean McVay look used Pooka Nakua, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's not what he is. They're not going to use
Speaker 1: him like that because first he's not the number one,
Speaker 1: that's JSN. Yes, So now the JSN, he's gonna get
Speaker 1: the favorable he's going to get the favorable play calls.
Speaker 2: He's going to get me the first target.
Speaker 1: And so but if you go back and look at it, oyo,
Speaker 1: I think Cooper Cup only had one one thousand yard
Speaker 1: receiving season.
Speaker 2: That was the triple Crown season season.
Speaker 4: That's that's funny how that works, right, that's funny. And
Speaker 4: I saw that before with understanding with dam he won
Speaker 4: the Triple Crown, and I remember going back and looking
Speaker 4: at some of his numbers.
Speaker 3: Me and TJ. Whos from Zada were talking about at
Speaker 3: one point.
Speaker 4: And he told me, we'll go look at all the
Speaker 4: steps from from before that, and it's unbelievable. With the
Speaker 4: right system, with the right coach, and putting you in
Speaker 4: the right positions, in right position to make certain plays,
Speaker 4: they can manipulate the offense to where you can succeed
Speaker 4: no matter what, no matter what, Yeah, you can do it.
Speaker 4: And obviously when it was time to work and wiggle
Speaker 4: him out that system, here comes pooping the cool up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're draft player, new draft players. You need smart players.
Speaker 1: They're those guys on the bigger side. They're not your
Speaker 1: typical slot You look at Pooker, you look at Cooper Cup.
Speaker 1: They're not these. They're not the Julian Edelman, they're not
Speaker 1: being Wes Welkers. They're not the typical slot receivers. They're
Speaker 1: on the business on the bigger side, which means they're
Speaker 1: gonna have to be able to take more punishment because
Speaker 1: when you catch that many balls, O Joe, you got
Speaker 1: to get a damn ass load of targets because Cooper
Speaker 1: Cup caught one hundred and forty some balls. That means
Speaker 1: he's one ninety two hundred targets, nineteen hundred and what
Speaker 1: nineteen hundred and thirty yard receiving yards. He was well
Speaker 1: over two thousand. He was probably down. He was damn
Speaker 1: near two hundred catches on the season. When you tally
Speaker 1: up what he did in the postseason and you look
Speaker 1: at the yard and he was what he was like,
Speaker 1: I think he was like twenty three twenty four hundred
Speaker 1: receiving yards. He is christ And you look at what
Speaker 1: he did in the playoff games. So he probably had
Speaker 1: another thirty another thirty plus catches, So you figure attack
Speaker 1: on another thirty thirty five catches with another forty five
Speaker 1: fifty targets. Now you see hell, he might have had
Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty, two hundred and fifty targets and
Speaker 1: called one hundred and ninety of them.
Speaker 4: When I think about it like that, as dynamic, as
Speaker 4: dynamic of a playmaker as he was, I would always
Speaker 4: always sit back and hypothetically think, damn, I wonder what
Speaker 4: my numbers would look like in that situation.
Speaker 3: Being that you know, but we're.
Speaker 2: With a lot of punishment. Yo, that's a lot of punishment.
Speaker 4: Hey, I could take punishment, you know, I ain't got
Speaker 4: no problem going across that middle and doing some of
Speaker 4: the doing some of the things that really made me uncomfortable.
Speaker 3: I can sit there and tell you that.
Speaker 4: I mean, I wasn't comfortable, you know, sitting there running
Speaker 4: running screens.
Speaker 3: I don't like that. I like to be having a
Speaker 3: somewhat of.
Speaker 1: Now, you're not gonna catch that many balls getting pushed
Speaker 1: down the field. O yoll, they can't throw that ball
Speaker 1: pushing you out.
Speaker 2: Of feel not No.
Speaker 1: One hundred and you know he caught one hundred and
Speaker 1: forty something balls. So think about how many, how many
Speaker 1: how many screens, bubble screens that he actually caught.
Speaker 2: I don't like how many, how many? How many little
Speaker 2: smoke routes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't like those.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be honest with you that it gives me
Speaker 4: a certain level of uncertainty, a certain level of uncomfortability
Speaker 4: with me not being able to have my eyes on
Speaker 4: what's in front of me and me having the focus
Speaker 4: on the ball.
Speaker 3: Now having to run a route.
Speaker 4: And understanding being able to read defenses and knowing where
Speaker 4: everybody's going to be and with their job and knowing
Speaker 4: when I can get out of breaks, I can protect myself.
Speaker 4: I know what's coming, I know where you're coming from.
Speaker 4: I know where the pursuit is coming from. But having
Speaker 4: to turn real quick and everybody got eyes on me
Speaker 4: like I'm a damn park return that makes me uncomfortable.
Speaker 2: Yeah it is. Yeah, I don't like that Brown's bench.
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco after one and three stint as a starter
Speaker 1: rookie Dylan Gabriel it's one in three. Meaning in Cleveland
Speaker 1: are wondering if your door Sanders now deserve its own shot.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: Today, Kevin Stefanski was asked by Mary Kay Cabot whether
Speaker 1: he's considering the possibility of playing your door. His response,
Speaker 1: the focus is where we are right now, Mary Kay,
Speaker 1: that's not my focus. Can we stop asking the questions?
Speaker 1: Y'all know this man don't want to place your door.
Speaker 4: You know you know people we know that, and people
Speaker 4: the people you know in the chat, not not in
Speaker 4: the chat, but this is in general. When we talked
Speaker 4: about cleating the Brown Oh, it's it's damn.
Speaker 3: What's the word.
Speaker 4: When they don't like someone and they now they doing
Speaker 4: them wrong. I forgot the word to use. But listen,
Speaker 4: we already know where the play was. We already know
Speaker 4: where the play was. They didn't want him. It was
Speaker 4: Drew Berry. No, and Andrew Berry. Andrew, it was Andrew
Speaker 4: Berry's pick. It wasn't it wasn't the owner, it wasn't
Speaker 4: the fanski. So this is exactly what they want. It's
Speaker 4: exactly what they want. It seems as if they were
Speaker 4: that someone forced their hand to take this pick, and
Speaker 4: they don't want.
Speaker 3: To give him opportunity to play the game.
Speaker 4: Uh. From the small sample size that we've seen from
Speaker 4: Dylan Gabriel, he has now had he played four games
Speaker 4: that they're won and three he won't push.
Speaker 2: The ball down the field. It's a hard I can't
Speaker 2: run the ball.
Speaker 1: And all you do is that you shore, you fish
Speaker 1: from you short fish, you catch the big fish. The
Speaker 1: big fish don't swim close along the shore. They're out
Speaker 1: the deep. And so to get points, you got to
Speaker 1: push the ball down the field at some point.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but maybe he's maybe he's not.
Speaker 4: He's not that comfortable doing just that yet, because we
Speaker 4: saw him push that push the ball down the field.
Speaker 3: And the goddamn preseason we saw him push the ball
Speaker 3: down the field. I see him.
Speaker 4: I saw him throw short balls. I thought I saw
Speaker 4: him throw any needed. I saw him throw dig rocks.
Speaker 4: I didn't really see him throwing throw anything deep. But
Speaker 4: I think there's a third level of uncomfortability that they
Speaker 4: don't have because offensively, they're not calling players for him
Speaker 4: to push the ball down the field because obviously maybe
Speaker 4: that's not what he's good at. That's the only thing
Speaker 4: I think of, But if it was good at doing it,
Speaker 4: you would call the players that call for him to
Speaker 4: do just that what we're asking of you or to
Speaker 4: for to win games. He's not giving the Browns their
Speaker 4: best chance to win games. And the fact that Kevin
Speaker 4: Stefanski understands that my job is on the line because
Speaker 4: this is the guy I stood up on the table
Speaker 4: for and who I wanted to make you know, the
Speaker 4: start of our team. At some point, you're gonna lose
Speaker 4: the locker room too.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, you're gonna lose the.
Speaker 4: Locker room and just take the right person to say
Speaker 4: something A Denzel Ward, A Miles Garrett. You know, you
Speaker 4: know your captains, you'd be like they staid, we need
Speaker 4: to do something. I mean to see Miles Geart frustrated
Speaker 4: like that, the way the way he was understanding that
Speaker 4: offensively were not getting it done. Knowing that to bathe
Speaker 4: I mean, but I think that's the heel that Kevin
Speaker 4: s Fank is willing to die on because this is
Speaker 4: my guy and he knows that.
Speaker 3: I mean, the job ain't in jeopardy. He's not in
Speaker 3: the hot seat. In the hot seat, so you know, no,
Speaker 3: hell no, absolutely not.
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco training camp completion percentage was fifty eight point
Speaker 1: seven in his first In his fourth start, he was
Speaker 1: at sixty nine percent. Then he went to fifty six
Speaker 1: percent fifty eight. In his last game as a starter,
Speaker 1: he was forty seven percent.
Speaker 3: He's somebody in the chat.
Speaker 4: Funniest here Toby Gaber did throw it down the field,
Speaker 4: but the guy intercepted.
Speaker 2: Look, man, look, I'm just tired of like, man, push
Speaker 2: your door. Man it. They don't seem as interested in putting.
Speaker 1: Your door in as we're interested in seeing him. And
Speaker 1: who knows what would happen if he got in there.
Speaker 1: But I think we want to see what would happen. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: And my thing is he like, well, he didn't play.
Speaker 1: He wasn't even number two Bailey Zaffery was the number
Speaker 1: two on Sunday, so he had the dealer with a
Speaker 1: back injury.
Speaker 2: Well, how you heard it? Well, he just stand on
Speaker 2: the sideline so I could get why he's back with
Speaker 2: tight hold on.
Speaker 3: He had a back surgy, but he was out there
Speaker 3: throwing the pregame.
Speaker 2: I'm just I've just got out there.
Speaker 3: Look, even though ain't nothing wrong, ain't nothing wrong with him.
Speaker 4: The same way it ain't nothing wrong with J. J.
Speaker 3: McCarthy. There's nothing wrong with him.
Speaker 4: It's just the game that they do play.
Speaker 3: If you understand the game and understand.
Speaker 4: What they will do and what they report, knowing that
Speaker 4: there's nothing wrong with you to cover there, you know what,
Speaker 4: get us on the outside to shut up. But listen,
Speaker 4: I played the game. I understand that some of the
Speaker 4: things that you will do when you don't really want
Speaker 4: a person to actually be in the game and to contribute.
Speaker 4: You don't want to look wrong, you don't want to
Speaker 4: be wrong, and the decisions that you've made. Of course,
Speaker 4: you're not gonna play him because you know he probably
Speaker 4: will go in there and succeed.
Speaker 3: Door Sanders works and operates very.
Speaker 4: Well in a chaotic environment and that's the environment that
Speaker 4: has been created for him because of who he is,
Speaker 4: and obviously also because it's that's that's they did. They
Speaker 4: didn't want him, but he will operate very well in
Speaker 4: the type environment, and they don't want that to happen.
Speaker 3: So what do we do. We say, he's hurt, his
Speaker 3: back is messed up.
Speaker 4: You tell you tell the reporters. Chempi's defense, he says, hey,
Speaker 4: don't ask me. The focus. The focus is what it
Speaker 4: is right now is Dylan Gabriel and doing everything we
Speaker 4: can to make sure he.
Speaker 3: Improves week to week.
Speaker 4: But the ticket, because the next thing that's gonna happen,
Speaker 4: it ain't gonna be the reporter saying something and asking questions.
Speaker 4: It's gonna be the only players in your locker room.
Speaker 2: Dylan Gabriel.
Speaker 1: Uh is training camp completion percentage was fifty five percent
Speaker 1: and it's four starts. He was at fifty eight percent,
Speaker 1: fifty six percent, seventy two percent, sixty percent, So it
Speaker 1: looks like he's right about where he was in training camp.
Speaker 1: And because they're they don't have the best playmakers.
Speaker 2: They don't have they don't have.
Speaker 1: The Detroit skill position players, they don't have Green Bay
Speaker 1: skill position players. They don't have sinces, they don't have
Speaker 1: a CD and pick. That's not what they have. So
Speaker 1: when you don't have that level of talent on the
Speaker 1: outside and you have a marginal quarterback, what do you
Speaker 1: think you're going to get?
Speaker 3: Listen? You know what?
Speaker 4: Then the owners and the onners at that point is
Speaker 4: on the office of coordinator who's calling the place? Okay, well, listen,
Speaker 4: I understand I have a quarterback right here in Dylan Gabriel.
Speaker 4: There are certain weaknesses that he does have. I have
Speaker 4: n't Juku Tillman, Jerry Judy. I know what they can do.
Speaker 4: I know what they can do. I know what their
Speaker 4: strengths are. How can I put them in the positions? Creativity?
Speaker 4: Creativity and it creative work, creatively and yeah, creatively the road.
Speaker 3: What's wrong with me? I'm talking to.
Speaker 4: Damn fast creatively to hide some of the things in
Speaker 4: the flaws that Dylan Gabriel is not good at. So
Speaker 4: now you can't make your.
Speaker 1: Caller, So you can't you can't make him grow four inches,
Speaker 1: So you can't do anything about that.
Speaker 2: You can't have a stronger arm, you can't do anything
Speaker 2: about that.
Speaker 1: No, your offensive line is not the best if there's
Speaker 1: not anything you can do about that, because you have
Speaker 1: what you have.
Speaker 2: So I don't.
Speaker 1: Really know where you I don't know how much better
Speaker 1: it can get for the Browns based on what you
Speaker 1: have currently.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I listen.
Speaker 4: I don't know. I'm all, I'm all a lot of suggestions.
Speaker 4: I mean, everyone else is suggested. You know, do this,
Speaker 4: do that. What everybody wanted they got, You got what
Speaker 4: you wanted, You got your quarterback, you got Joe Flacco
Speaker 4: gone now having success, you know, in the air throwing
Speaker 4: to two of the greatest, the greatest duo in the NFL.
Speaker 4: Now Dylan gave its your quarterback. But you're still in
Speaker 4: the same You're still in the same place. You're still
Speaker 4: in the same position.
Speaker 1: You think, you think you're due at better than Dallas
Speaker 1: a duo. Come again and ask me, ask that one
Speaker 1: more time before you ask me, think about what you
Speaker 1: ask me to. Ask me again, then ask me. I
Speaker 1: will ask you. Do you believe that your duo is
Speaker 1: better then dallas Is duo?
Speaker 4: Well, not only do I believe that our due is
Speaker 4: better than Dallas's duo, but it's it's it's it's where.
Speaker 3: We're we're we are.
Speaker 4: We are better. We are better as a whole. And
Speaker 4: this is no disrespect to see the n Pick. But
Speaker 4: they right below us and it's close to yeah right close.
Speaker 4: Let meet them to stay with me. Now it's close.
Speaker 4: But because of Jamar Chase, it edges the south. Okay,
Speaker 4: and T t is very good. You know, George Picking
Speaker 4: can do what T.
Speaker 3: Higgins does.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you do a little better.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean yeah, I mean yeah. I think they
Speaker 3: about about equivalent.
Speaker 4: Now he can go up and get it, you know,
Speaker 4: uh T get running and rounds them the fifty fifty
Speaker 4: ball turn eighty twenty when it's them too.
Speaker 1: And the thing I like about Pick is Pick is angry.
Speaker 1: He get his ball, hands on the ball. He's like,
Speaker 1: you have to tie for me. I ain't going down,
Speaker 1: I ain't running out of bounds. You're gonna have to
Speaker 1: tackle me.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that, And I love I love the
Speaker 1: focus that I've seen from him since he's arrived in Dallas.
Speaker 2: I love that, I love I love that. I just.
Speaker 1: Uh she Door has been liking I G posts today
Speaker 1: that are calling for him to start for the Browns
Speaker 1: after the bye week.
Speaker 4: We'll see whatever you got to do. Whatever, whatever you
Speaker 4: got to do. And obviously going into the bye week,
Speaker 4: this is the Browns bye week, right, Yes, they definitely
Speaker 4: not definitely not naming the starters on the bye week,
Speaker 4: but we're gonna see what happens. We're gonna give Dylan
Speaker 4: Gabriel another week, another week to get to get better,
Speaker 4: to improve himself based on what he's done so far
Speaker 4: with the four stars he's had. I wonder who they
Speaker 4: got coming out to buy. Uh, that's as you they
Speaker 4: have coming out of the buy oh man. And then
Speaker 4: my thing is, Joe is that No, you don't have
Speaker 4: to do anything. It's just like who they got the
Speaker 4: Jets coming out of the Byre.
Speaker 3: Ain't no telling.
Speaker 2: I think that's as good.
Speaker 1: That's as good as any time to let you do
Speaker 1: a start.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think Dylan Gabriel will be the start
Speaker 4: against the Jets. Ain't I'm telling jet. Jets might come
Speaker 4: out there and and mollywop there you know what.
Speaker 2: They already beat all so they got confidence.
Speaker 3: Now, don't do that. Don't do that.
Speaker 4: Let's not bring up the past. Let's not bring up
Speaker 4: the past. Let's look forward. Because in the Bible it said, uh,
Speaker 4: do not look that behind you. Therefore, so you can
Speaker 4: see where you go with.
Speaker 1: I don't know your eyes closed the way to beat
Speaker 1: you all up. You know, look, there's only so much.
Speaker 1: I mean, because I think the thing is I think
Speaker 1: for the most part, he's done. He said all the
Speaker 1: right things, and I'm gonna support Dylan. You know, hey,
Speaker 1: he you know we're in that room. I think every
Speaker 1: everybody when Joe is in the room, I think your
Speaker 1: door saying all the right things. I think he's been
Speaker 1: coached up. I think he's been groomed to play that position,
Speaker 1: to say all the right things, because you are corporate
Speaker 1: when you're in that position. But I think deep down
Speaker 1: he believes he's better than Dylan Gaber.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: He believed that every player that has competition at the
Speaker 4: pacific position believes that better than the person that's in
Speaker 4: front of Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1: And unfortunately y'all won't he said, Unfortunately y'all won't give
Speaker 1: me an opportunity to show you that I'm better.
Speaker 2: I mean, look, there's only one way. There's only one
Speaker 2: way to prove it.
Speaker 1: Give him go, let him go out there and give
Speaker 1: him four stars, and let's see.
Speaker 2: I think the thing is o Joe.
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna let this thing with Dylan Gaber
Speaker 1: will go a little longer for the simple fact you
Speaker 1: don't want to play. You've already moved on from Joe Flacco.
Speaker 1: Joe Flackel got four stars. Are we really trying to
Speaker 1: give Dylan Gabor four stars? Okay, give your door four stars.
Speaker 1: It don't work out what your door? Go back to
Speaker 1: Dylan Gaber, It don't work out with Dylan Gaber, or
Speaker 1: go back to you do. I don't know if that's
Speaker 1: where you want to be at Ojoe, I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't think that's where you want to be.
Speaker 3: Is the fancy is in a tough position. Though he
Speaker 3: is in a tough position.
Speaker 2: The damn if you do, damn if you don't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, basically that's exactly what it is.
Speaker 4: But I think it's okay for them to have a
Speaker 4: quarterback carousel and being able to make those changing.
Speaker 3: Those changes weren't necessary because.
Speaker 4: You need to find out what you need to do
Speaker 4: for the foresee of your future.
Speaker 1: They're probably gonna go back into They're probably gonna go
Speaker 1: back in the draft and get a quarterback. But I mean,
Speaker 1: looking at the quarterbacks, I'm looking around at college right now,
Speaker 1: I don't see anybody. I don't see anybody that blowing
Speaker 1: my socks up like, oh I got to get them,
Speaker 1: I got to have him.
Speaker 4: I'm glad you just said that, because obviously everything at
Speaker 4: the quarterback level. There's been some great quarterback play in
Speaker 4: college football, but there's nothing that gonna come to the
Speaker 4: Cleveland Browns and be like, oh, shoot, we found the one.
Speaker 3: There's nobody.
Speaker 1: Cleveland's more than a player away. Old you, that's the problem.
Speaker 1: They're more than a player away.
Speaker 3: But they're more than a player away.
Speaker 4: But if they get the right quarterback, which is yes,
Speaker 4: the problem for the past now thirty six years, then
Speaker 4: you're a little closer to where you want to get to.
Speaker 4: But you can't even you can't even get past step one.
Speaker 1: No, but you had the quarterback. You had the quarterback.
Speaker 1: You just need to get some pieces around Baker and
Speaker 1: let him heal. But you know the damage was done,
Speaker 1: you you, you know, I guess conversation. You know, he
Speaker 1: felt like they wanted him to be something that he wasn't.
Speaker 1: They wanted him to be more button up, more structured,
Speaker 1: and he's a guy that he wants to dance. He cool,
Speaker 1: in the locker room. The guys like him, and so
Speaker 1: that wasn't their cup of tea. Well, if the guy's
Speaker 1: gonna win, damn your cup of tea. I'm trying to win.
Speaker 4: Yeah, as all that matters at the end of the day,
Speaker 4: especially for quarterbacks.
Speaker 3: It's based on wins, wins and losses.
Speaker 1: Yes, So we'll see how this thing plays out. I
Speaker 1: think you know, Cleveland goes for a minute, there's no games,
Speaker 1: there's nothing to report. I don't know how much they're gonna. Oh,
Speaker 1: they get the whole week off for the bye week.
Speaker 1: They gone what you mean gone? They practicing?
Speaker 2: They ain't practicing. You gotta get the week off.
Speaker 4: Wait they changed the rules or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, as look up and see I think that's a rule.
Speaker 1: You get the whole week off.
Speaker 4: Man, I ain't never see man what.
Speaker 2: No, hell no?
Speaker 1: We got we got Thursday week. Man, We got Friday.
Speaker 1: We normally we got Friday, Saturday, Sunday off. We had
Speaker 1: a half day Thursday. If everything went good, you know,
Speaker 1: we got a half day Thursday. But it was a
Speaker 1: whole Now, we got a week in Baltimore. But Mike
Speaker 1: Shanahan wasn't playing that. I don't know what I don't know.
Speaker 1: I was like, damn man, they man such is man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we got the we getting the whole week of I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: damn we ain't got no week off.
Speaker 2: They get the whole week off. Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 3: So they got to do any work they want to
Speaker 3: do all by yourself.
Speaker 4: But obviously during the bye week, you want to get
Speaker 4: away from football. Yeah, you want to reset mentally, you
Speaker 4: want to resentmently, get yourself away from anything football related.
Speaker 3: Go home, you know, get in your game.
Speaker 4: I mean, just do whatever you need to detach from
Speaker 4: the game of football in your bye week. That's that's
Speaker 4: the point of it. And when you do come back,
Speaker 4: if you ready to hit it, ready to.
Speaker 2: All I know is I heal my a lot of
Speaker 2: my own injuries.
Speaker 1: You're not going to keep me here on the by
Speaker 1: a week because I got something I'm nicked.
Speaker 2: Oh you good, yep.
Speaker 1: These allies at the convenience store, your eyes don't have
Speaker 1: medicine and all of us got you got that rabbit
Speaker 1: turred ice.
Speaker 2: I got to get that QB dice. It's all all
Speaker 2: the same.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it does at the end of the day.
Speaker 1: Uh. Aaron Glenn declines to name Justin Fields quarterback. One
Speaker 1: after the Jets bye week, despite his person win of
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, Glenn said, this is the bye week
Speaker 1: and we're going to focus on us.
Speaker 2: I have time to make that decision.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, let me listen.
Speaker 3: And obviously you have time to make that decision.
Speaker 4: Also, Aaron Glenn understands that he was playing against the
Speaker 4: Bengal defense. He also understands he was playing against the
Speaker 4: Bengal defense, which really hasn't.
Speaker 3: Been good you know all year long. Ever important, don't
Speaker 3: do that, don't do that, don't do that. But I mean,
Speaker 3: he understands that.
Speaker 2: So the year y'all went to the Super Bowl, y'all
Speaker 2: was good.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Hold on the year we went to Super Bowl,
Speaker 3: we was the middle of the pack.
Speaker 2: That was good.
Speaker 3: We was middle of the pack. And that's all I'm
Speaker 3: asking for.
Speaker 2: But where are you now?
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know what number we at? What number
Speaker 3: you think we at?
Speaker 2: Lord a whale poop?
Speaker 1: Hey man, I don't know if you guys are worse
Speaker 1: than Dallas, but you're close.
Speaker 4: You think.
Speaker 3: I wanted to add ash who has a who defense
Speaker 3: is worse? Is it us us A Dallas?
Speaker 2: I mean both y'all in the ugly contest.
Speaker 3: Hey, we're both in the ugly contest.
Speaker 4: Yes, hey, we might not be the ugliest though, you
Speaker 4: know what the ugly, but we not the ugliest.
Speaker 2: We're gonna have We're gonna have two winners, is the
Speaker 2: See I told you.
Speaker 4: Wait, we did let me thirty thirty second in defense?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, god, damn mm hmmm.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't like that.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't like that. I don't like that at all,
Speaker 3: Like I don't know what I don't know.
Speaker 4: That's me. Now you see why Aaron Glynn doesn't want
Speaker 4: to make a decision on who he wants to start
Speaker 4: because you went and you won a game against the
Speaker 4: thirty second best defense. Look a look at me, thirty
Speaker 4: second best defense in the NFL and you win. So
Speaker 4: that really, that really gives me no gauge on how
Speaker 4: well you can do when you play against the competent defense.
Speaker 4: It's gonna be a different ball game if you're playing
Speaker 4: somebody else. Damn many thirty two.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, who know, y'all was, Oh, y'all, this is
Speaker 1: where y'all was last year.
Speaker 2: Why are you surprised? So tell me.
Speaker 1: Who the addition that you guys got because you got
Speaker 1: last year, he had seventeen a half sacks. He led
Speaker 1: the league in sacks. You were dead last. You don't
Speaker 1: have anybody even close to that this year. So where
Speaker 1: do you expect to be? You expected to move up.
Speaker 4: But I'm just thinking about some of the moves we
Speaker 4: made in the draft. The Meteor's night phenomenal player. I
Speaker 4: mean he's made a huge impact.
Speaker 2: Yah, Mark, you.
Speaker 1: Told me that, and then and then Bryce Hall Breech
Speaker 1: Hall just go out there and have a day for days.
Speaker 3: Yeah he did, he did.
Speaker 4: But listen, I mean, forty four can't be everywhere now,
Speaker 4: he's only He's only one man. You're going to do
Speaker 4: so much. We need everybody to come to the party.
Speaker 4: That's the problem. I don't think everybody had a ticket
Speaker 4: to the party. They did have a ticket to the
Speaker 4: I think that's the problem.
Speaker 2: They ain't nobody, brain, nothing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we had to escort about.
Speaker 2: We had to let them go.
Speaker 1: Hey man, well look I think the Veggas I'm gonna say,
Speaker 1: if I'm Mary Glynn, I'm gonna sell a g I'm
Speaker 1: celebrating this. I don't have to make a decision First
Speaker 1: of all, ain't nobody in the building, all the guys.
Speaker 2: The guys are gone. Yeah, the guys are gone.
Speaker 1: So go somewhere warm, Go to Miami, go to La
Speaker 1: go to Vegas, go do something fun.
Speaker 2: I'm not even thinking.
Speaker 1: I can honestly say that when on the bye week,
Speaker 1: I didn't think about football.
Speaker 2: That was the last thing on my mind.
Speaker 1: That was that was the time for me, not even
Speaker 1: think about football and not think about nothing. You know,
Speaker 1: go somewhere. But see, it was different from us, so Joe.
Speaker 1: We only got two and a half inf in days.
Speaker 1: We didn't have no week.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think the most. I probably had
Speaker 4: maybe three, maybe four days, but them three or four
Speaker 4: days on tik about detaching until about reset mentally, getting
Speaker 4: away from the game of football.
Speaker 3: I'm in Miami, obviously, you know I don't club. I
Speaker 3: don't do none of that.
Speaker 2: I go home.
Speaker 4: Man, hit that swimming pool, No, I didn't, didn't really
Speaker 4: get hurt. So you know I did think go bike
Speaker 4: riding back back back then, I used to enjoy my
Speaker 4: little little huffy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what is do it?
Speaker 4: Early early morning or early morning bike ride to make
Speaker 4: sure I keep my conditioner going, and too that's why
Speaker 4: I didn't play video games. Yeah, but I didn't want
Speaker 4: to see a football. I didn't want to see a
Speaker 4: pea skin. I didn't want to hear anything. You know,
Speaker 4: you go home to your homeboys, they always want to
Speaker 4: talk about the season. I say, man, bro, look, I
Speaker 4: ain't trying to hear none of that. Don't ask me
Speaker 4: nothing about the season. Or I ain't worried about who
Speaker 4: we plan. I ain't trying to hear none of that.
Speaker 4: But what we're gonna do. We get Let's hit South Beach,
Speaker 4: Let's go to news cafe and sit outside and people watch.
Speaker 3: Let's go to you know fish Man.
Speaker 1: In them days go by so damn fast. You're like, dang,
Speaker 1: did we even by week? I say, I think they
Speaker 1: skipped some days very fast. I mean it's money, and
Speaker 1: next thing you know, it's Thirdy're like, manos didn't win.
Speaker 2: And then and then if you bad, and then if
Speaker 2: you nicked it.
Speaker 1: Because I remember my last year in Baltimore, we got
Speaker 1: the whole week off. I ended up getting my knees
Speaker 1: drained before I left, and then had to get him
Speaker 1: drained when I got back.
Speaker 4: Wait a minute, speaking of drains, speaking of the knees drain.
Speaker 4: Why when I played in the flag football game and
Speaker 4: god damn in London and I hit I hit the
Speaker 4: turf right, Yeah, I got it?
Speaker 3: Why I got a burst a sack.
Speaker 4: Yep, now my on my left knee, my lefty nigga
Speaker 4: like I'm goddamn professor klumk And I refuse to get
Speaker 4: a dreamed. And I don't know where to get the
Speaker 4: sleeve from. You know, you know you put the sleeve
Speaker 4: over there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just get one of those, one of those, one
Speaker 2: of those.
Speaker 1: Uh uh you going to the CVS and get one
Speaker 1: of those up compression compression stock.
Speaker 3: Yeah, boy, I got to get one on my left knee.
Speaker 3: I used to get him. I played right.
Speaker 4: You know you hit your elbow in that, man, My
Speaker 4: elbow used to be so fat. I used to always
Speaker 4: wear a little wristband to cover it up. Yeah, used
Speaker 4: to be that.
Speaker 1: I used to I used to fly because I had
Speaker 1: I had swelling bad in my joints, my knees, my ankle,
Speaker 1: and I always wear compression stock into I wore them
Speaker 1: on both on both bring them up to your knee
Speaker 1: above the knee.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Dam