WEBVTT - I Got the Need, the Need for Weed: Randy Lanier

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<v Speaker 1>Ridiculous crime. It's a production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>Zaren Elizabeth, Sarah, how are you.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm doing pretty well. Just been in here waiting for you,

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<v Speaker 3>all excited to see you, and you walk in with

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<v Speaker 3>that big smile.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so good to see you.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know, I'm hoping things are gonna look up.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh. Same, I'm trying to be positive to positive.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I'm trying to be optimistic and being like I've

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<v Speaker 5>been watching a lot of stuff about Vietnam.

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<v Speaker 4>Well that helps to be for me.

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<v Speaker 5>It provides perspective to go from like sixty like early sixties.

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<v Speaker 5>I actually started, like you know, at the end of

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<v Speaker 5>World War Two, at the coverage, and then by the

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<v Speaker 5>time you get to sixty eight and everything's just mad revolution,

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<v Speaker 5>Like okay, I can kind of see how these things,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, break and change. So it was just giving

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<v Speaker 5>me a little like, Okay, we've gotten through crazier.

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<v Speaker 3>You know that's true.

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<v Speaker 4>That's true. Listen aside from you binge watching Vietnam documentaries.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, you know, it's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh my god, do I Elizabeth. I saw this and

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<v Speaker 5>I had to tell you about it. There was this

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<v Speaker 5>woman named Marsha Morgan was forty eight years old at

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<v Speaker 5>the time, and she did what I have occasionally done

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<v Speaker 5>when you look at your window and you see someone

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<v Speaker 5>who's parked in front of your replace, and you're.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, what the hell are they doing on my parking

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<v Speaker 3>spot right on.

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<v Speaker 4>The public street, on the public street, but you.

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<v Speaker 5>Still look at it as like your parking spaces right

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<v Speaker 5>in front of your place. I admit it makes no sense.

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<v Speaker 5>It's not one of my best qualities, but I have

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<v Speaker 5>gotten upset when I'm like, what are they doing parking there?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 5>So she did something I can totally understand. She went

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<v Speaker 5>out and tried to do something about it. She wasn't violent,

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<v Speaker 5>she wasn't like mad destructive. She just took a bunch

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<v Speaker 5>of toilet paper and she like toilet papered the car

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<v Speaker 5>that was parked in what she conceived of as her space. Now,

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<v Speaker 5>what I've left out was that when she did this,

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<v Speaker 5>she was dressed as a hot dog. She had gotten

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<v Speaker 5>home and decided not to take off her hot dog costume. Instead,

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<v Speaker 5>she just had a couple of drinks, She got tossed,

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<v Speaker 5>and then she decided, I need to go settle up

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<v Speaker 5>with a car out front.

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<v Speaker 3>When she was arrested. She was still in the hot

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<v Speaker 3>dog costume.

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<v Speaker 4>This is a costume for work.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm assuming maybe I might put on something comfortable.

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<v Speaker 3>I put on her mobile driver costume.

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<v Speaker 4>Like if I had to go home in a hot

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<v Speaker 4>dog costume, the first thing I do is take off the.

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<v Speaker 2>Hot dog, one would think, I think.

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<v Speaker 4>Can we also talk about how expensive it is to

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<v Speaker 4>toilet paper a car?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you don't even egg things anymore, exactly.

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<v Speaker 5>Know, it's wasting that This was a couple of years ago.

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<v Speaker 5>This was in like, well, it was twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 5>It wasn't that long ago.

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<v Speaker 2>It was one year.

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<v Speaker 3>Again, the toilet paper was still expensive.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, and everything's expensive.

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<v Speaker 5>She got a five hundred and fifty dollars fine on

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<v Speaker 5>top of her lost toilet paper. I guess the cops

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<v Speaker 5>weren't impressed with that hot dog costume. Now, I don't

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<v Speaker 5>think I should have to tell you this, but this

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<v Speaker 5>did occur in Saint Petersburg, Florida.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Also, by the way, when I was reading other stories

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<v Speaker 5>of the news about crime, there's a neighborhood called Madera

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<v Speaker 5>in Florida, which is in the Saint Petersburg area. Oh, man,

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<v Speaker 5>did that one come up a lot in the stories?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, if you go like to read the Smoking Gun, right,

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<v Speaker 5>which happened to be like like just cruising through, so

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<v Speaker 5>it's a little light reading. And it was just Madera

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<v Speaker 5>Madera Madeira. I'd never heard of it before. Now I

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<v Speaker 5>know all about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Apparently it's a rough spot.

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<v Speaker 4>Interesting.

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<v Speaker 5>A lot of people like hitting each other with a

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<v Speaker 5>slice of pizza, you know, throwing nachos at your dress. Yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 5>one person like stole a taco.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a lot of foods, a lot of food based.

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<v Speaker 5>And then also meth and alcohol based crimes, that's all.

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<v Speaker 5>Sometimes it's like I got drunk and I threw the

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<v Speaker 5>pizza at my mother.

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<v Speaker 3>I like it. Okay, So there you go, ridiculous, right.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what else is ridiculous? Get them Smugglers Blues.

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<v Speaker 4>This is Ridiculous Crime A podcast about absurd and outrageous capers, heists,

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<v Speaker 4>and cons. It's always always ninety nine percent murder free

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<v Speaker 4>and one hundred percent ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh you damn right, I am so right, always right

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<v Speaker 3>zerin sore Rain.

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<v Speaker 4>You love a good tale of adventure on the high seas.

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<v Speaker 5>I love a good tail of adventure in you love pirates,

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<v Speaker 5>a huge van of pirates.

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<v Speaker 3>If I could have a job occupation of choice, pirate.

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<v Speaker 2>You love vikings, basically a pirate of the ancients.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, and you love tales of dirt bags with feathered hair,

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<v Speaker 4>loading up boats with pounds of weed and running their

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<v Speaker 4>goods to the land of apple pie, baseball in sync,

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<v Speaker 4>garbage disposals, red solo cups, and medical bankruptcy.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, I do love sixties and seventies in particular, and

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<v Speaker 5>up to the eighties. Drug smuggling in the Florida Ky

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<v Speaker 5>get to the USA.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, drug smugglers. Okay, so they make amazing ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 3>Criminals, totally, just amazing.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's in part because of the way they spend

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<v Speaker 4>their ill gotten gains, Like they do a ridiculous job,

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<v Speaker 4>they buy ridiculous things.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, it's just a circle of ridiculous and.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe because they dip into their own supply. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>it's an explanation, you possibly red it. So I've got

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<v Speaker 4>this guy for you today. A lot of the parts

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<v Speaker 4>of his story sound a little familiar because we've heard

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<v Speaker 4>them in other stories. Okay, here, like they're the tropes,

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<v Speaker 4>these required elements, the basics of seventies and eighties drug smuggling.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, let's be real.

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<v Speaker 4>It never gets old.

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<v Speaker 3>No go fast boat, low flying planes exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>So today Randy Lanier, Oh, he's an all timer, mister Burnette. Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>I fess then you've heard of him.

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<v Speaker 3>My friend Derek actually recommended I look into his story.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm glad you got this well, I've stole it out

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<v Speaker 4>from under you. He was born in Lynchburg, Virginia. Nineteen

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<v Speaker 4>fifty four was the year his dad was a draftsman.

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<v Speaker 4>His mom was a caretaker at a mental hospital. It

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<v Speaker 4>is hard working folks. He was close to his grandparents

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<v Speaker 4>and he loved countrying it up at their place on

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<v Speaker 4>the James River. The Gold Country boy. Yeah. When he

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<v Speaker 4>was fourteen, he and his family moved to Hollywood, Florida,

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<v Speaker 4>which is not too far from Fort Lauderdale. The vibe

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<v Speaker 4>in the late sixties was mellow, like long haired beach hippies,

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<v Speaker 4>cool music, yeah, you know, cooltoons, drugs. So Randy he

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<v Speaker 4>started working construction.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I respect.

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<v Speaker 4>He was like a typical teen for the time and

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<v Speaker 4>the place. He had a ponytail. He wanted to make

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<v Speaker 4>a little.

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<v Speaker 2>Cash, swing a hammer, the ponytail.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, the ponytail got him a reputation that basically manifested

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<v Speaker 4>what was to come. Because he had the ponytail shows up.

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<v Speaker 4>Guys on the crew thought that he'd be able to

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<v Speaker 4>hook him up with pot, because well that's the thing

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<v Speaker 4>not to even sell, but like, do you know where

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<v Speaker 4>you could find him? And I thought, I bet you

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<v Speaker 4>could relate to that because you had long dreadlocks when

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<v Speaker 4>you were working constructions.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, And they always expected me to have pot on me, Like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>we're gonna go take a break. See you want to

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<v Speaker 3>come with us? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Or know where you could get it? Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I definitely hook him up.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So I think you were probably able to accommodate

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<v Speaker 4>the requests. Maybe so this kid though he's just a

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<v Speaker 4>kid with a ponytail. But you know, if people ask,

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<v Speaker 4>you're like, well all right, let's make this happen. So

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<v Speaker 4>Randy started selling pot.

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<v Speaker 3>There you go.

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<v Speaker 4>He was readying himself for another summer of construction site

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<v Speaker 4>drug deals, and then his dad was like, you gotta

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<v Speaker 4>cut your hair. No way, man, as Crosby steals Nash

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<v Speaker 4>and Young saying, almost cut my hair. It happened just

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<v Speaker 4>the other day. It was getting kind of long. I

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<v Speaker 4>could have said it was in my way, but I didn't,

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<v Speaker 4>And I wonder why I feel like letting my freak

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<v Speaker 4>flag fly. Yeah, so he wanted to let his freak

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<v Speaker 4>flag fly, and how thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know what he did.

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<v Speaker 4>He got out of town.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, He's like, forget the scissors, give me the cartones.

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<v Speaker 4>So he hitchhiked to Canada.

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<v Speaker 2>From Hollywood, Florida.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, with a bag of pot, four hits of acid,

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<v Speaker 4>and five dollars. Okay, you know, just like that sweet

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<v Speaker 4>heroin Cherub David Crosby saying in the same song, when

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<v Speaker 4>I finally get myself together, I'm going to get down

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<v Speaker 4>in some of that sweet summer weather. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 4>find a space inside to laugh, separate the wheat from

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<v Speaker 4>the chev Yeah. So it was a great summer. And

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<v Speaker 4>when he got backed on, he decided to ride the high.

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<v Speaker 4>So he dropped out of school. It became a full

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<v Speaker 4>time weed dealer. Okay, he did all the like late sixties,

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<v Speaker 4>early seventies weed dealer stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>So like.

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<v Speaker 4>According to Rolling Stone Magazine, he quote at one point

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<v Speaker 4>packed the air vents of a Folkswagen Beetle with marijuana

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<v Speaker 4>and headed off to Aspen to meditate with a guru.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, except for the air cooled engine part.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a little problem, a little problem there.

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<v Speaker 4>So by the time he was nineteen, he'd earned enough

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<v Speaker 4>as a local dealer to buy a twenty seven foot

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<v Speaker 4>Magnum sport powerboat.

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<v Speaker 3>Damn Son.

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<v Speaker 4>He was making cash, you know, and there's nothing like

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<v Speaker 4>a young weed dealer with a gofest like what could

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<v Speaker 4>go wrong?

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<v Speaker 3>Sarin, He've stepped up in class.

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<v Speaker 4>As Randy tells it. Quote, about six months later, a

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<v Speaker 4>buddy asked me if I was interested to go and

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<v Speaker 4>go into the Bahamas and put some grass on my boat.

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<v Speaker 4>It seemed like an adventure, So I did it.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh man, I love when people used to call it cras.

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<v Speaker 4>I was just going to say, I that is my

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<v Speaker 4>favorite of all the weed terms. I think so because

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<v Speaker 4>it's so like, it's so time specific. M Yeah. Anyway, Uh,

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<v Speaker 4>they skanoodled on down to the Bahamas. They loaded seven

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<v Speaker 4>hundred and fifty pounds of that stickyicking into the boat.

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<v Speaker 4>Then they cruise back up to Fort Lauderdale super easy.

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<v Speaker 4>And it made him five grand. So five grand in

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<v Speaker 4>nineteen seventy three is just over thirty seven thousand dollars today.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not bad for basically a day and a half

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<v Speaker 3>FLT work.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, exactly, so, Randy, he did some math in his head.

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<v Speaker 2>B boo babu.

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<v Speaker 3>Beat that.

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<v Speaker 4>One boat can land him five k No problem? What

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<v Speaker 4>about two? Well, heck, what about three? He bought two

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<v Speaker 4>more speed boats to go first, and he had it made.

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<v Speaker 4>He married his high school sweetheart. Like things are on

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<v Speaker 4>the uptick, it was just all so easy. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>you slip down to the island, you pick up the cargo,

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<v Speaker 4>head back to Florida.

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<v Speaker 3>He doesn't want to go to Nassau.

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<v Speaker 4>Slide into the canals under cover of darkness.

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<v Speaker 3>Them on the Florida coast.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, this is so many inlets, Randy said, quote it

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<v Speaker 4>was a smuggler's paradise. It was like the pirate days,

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<v Speaker 4>Like you want a time machine to.

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<v Speaker 3>Go back to.

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<v Speaker 5>Then I would be satisfied with the late seventies. I

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<v Speaker 5>actually literally be fine with that.

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<v Speaker 4>And so like South Florida, weed dealers started hiring him

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<v Speaker 4>and he'd make the pickups and they'd cut him in

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<v Speaker 4>for thirty percent of the load. So fast forward a

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<v Speaker 4>couple of years and The Rolling Stone wrote quote Lanier

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<v Speaker 4>had three stash houses humming in the Bucolic horse country

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<v Speaker 4>west of Fort Lauderdale and was earning hundreds of thousands

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<v Speaker 4>of dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>So he had to have some.

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<v Speaker 4>Cover for all of this, Like, how do you explain this?

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<v Speaker 4>He started a business, So nineteen seventies Fort Lauderdale, Like,

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<v Speaker 4>what's a happening? Successful business for that time and place. Well, No,

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<v Speaker 4>if you had said jet ski rental, you would be

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<v Speaker 4>today's winner, I miss, I mean, come on, it's right there,

0:11:43.240 --> 0:11:46.040
<v Speaker 4>right there, Burnette. So you know, a man has to

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<v Speaker 4>have hobbies. Of course, Randy, like you liked to go

0:11:49.440 --> 0:11:54.280
<v Speaker 4>fast boats, jet skis. And it was in nineteen seventy

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<v Speaker 4>eight that he went to a Miami car show in

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<v Speaker 4>nineteen seventy eight Miami Car all the Way wild. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>So there he saw a car club booth and he

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<v Speaker 4>like chatted with them all, Hey, kiky, what's up, checked

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<v Speaker 4>out a brochure, and then signed up for a racing class.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh smart, like bomb Bonderette style.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Randy later said, quote, I didn't have a clue. I

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<v Speaker 4>just drove, yes man, and drove did Zaren So he

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<v Speaker 4>worked the grassroots circuit for a while just like gunning

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<v Speaker 4>and funning. Then came the nineteen eighty to twenty four

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<v Speaker 4>Hours of Daytona race.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, and driving on the sand real things. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>A friend of his worked for Janet Guthrie and she

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<v Speaker 4>was one of the first women to compete in professional racing.

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<v Speaker 4>And his buddy was like, hey, you want to hear

0:12:46.360 --> 0:12:51.679
<v Speaker 4>some hot gossip. Randy's like, yeah, it's like Janet sick.

0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:55.040
<v Speaker 4>He's like, really six sick, you know, she just has

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<v Speaker 4>like an upset stomach. Oh, And He's like that doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>qualify as hot gossip. He's like, you should spend some

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<v Speaker 4>time around the track. This is about as good as

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<v Speaker 4>I can get. So they were looking for someone to

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<v Speaker 4>take her place at twenty four Hours of Daytona, and

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<v Speaker 4>Randy was like, look, no further, I'm your guy. So,

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<v Speaker 4>according to Rolling Stone quote, climbing into the Ferrari five twelve,

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<v Speaker 4>Lanier drove several practice laps fast enough to impress the team.

0:13:21.480 --> 0:13:23.960
<v Speaker 4>He and two other drivers kept the car in third

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<v Speaker 4>place for eighteen hours before Lanier destroyed the Ferrari's gearbox.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh so he was shining on the track apparently, and

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<v Speaker 4>he was also shining back at the office, not the

0:13:36.520 --> 0:13:40.360
<v Speaker 4>jet ski rental office, but the drug smuggling office. No, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>that one. And so he had expanded and he had

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<v Speaker 4>a business partner, fellow by the name of Ben Kramer

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<v Speaker 4>Ben Cream. They went to high school together and they

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<v Speaker 4>had similar interests. See Ben had just gotten out of

0:13:51.760 --> 0:13:54.640
<v Speaker 4>prison for selling weed. So they were sympathico.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, And with Ben, Randy.

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<v Speaker 4>Could really like upscale, upsize his efforts.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, yeah, I mean he's graduated from the Iron Bar

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<v Speaker 5>University exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>So faster boats, bigger boats, more boats.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm talking sixty five foot wooden trawller.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh wow.

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<v Speaker 2>And then like big fishing boats, then.

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<v Speaker 4>A whole fleet of tug boats.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>He just went nuts.

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<v Speaker 3>So he's like, they're going to look past those.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. So then he gets bigger contracts he got we're

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<v Speaker 4>talking Colombia.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So they weren't middlemen anymore.

0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:33.000
<v Speaker 2>They went to the source was smuggling more.

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<v Speaker 4>Money for them. So Randy bought a Norwegian fishing trawler

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<v Speaker 4>called Ursa Major, and he took it down to Colombia

0:14:40.240 --> 0:14:44.200
<v Speaker 4>and he came back with fifteen thousand pounds of Colombian gold.

0:14:44.960 --> 0:14:48.160
<v Speaker 4>Can I tell you about this particular stream tons of Colombian.

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<v Speaker 4>Colombian gold is a legendary pure sativa cannabis stream yes

0:14:54.040 --> 0:14:58.200
<v Speaker 4>originating from the Santa Martin Mountains in Colombia. Renowned for

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<v Speaker 4>its energetic uplifting a and high THHC levels around eighteen

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<v Speaker 4>to twenty percent. It is popular for daytime, used to

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<v Speaker 4>combat stress and depression. Featuring a distinct skunky lime forward around.

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<v Speaker 4>It is relatively easy to grow tall plant.

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<v Speaker 5>I bet it would drive Cheech and Chong absolutely sideways

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<v Speaker 5>with like desire.

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<v Speaker 4>I just cracks me up. When people talk about weed,

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<v Speaker 4>they talk about wine.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, with a tear water with lemon.

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<v Speaker 4>It makes sense.

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<v Speaker 3>The es and this are fantastic. So their top note

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<v Speaker 3>is something of an alfalfa.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you go from like wine moms to weed moms.

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<v Speaker 3>That's true.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the whole thing. So there's Randy with his boat

0:15:39.600 --> 0:15:44.920
<v Speaker 4>just like crammed with Colombian gold marijuana. He pulled off

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<v Speaker 4>the coast of Florida and his crew motored up in

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<v Speaker 4>a bunch of big zodiac rafts. They filled the zodiacs

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<v Speaker 4>with fifty pound bales he.

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<v Speaker 2>Just wrapped, okay, and then the zodiacs made.

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<v Speaker 4>Their way to a beach where like a strobe light

0:15:58.360 --> 0:16:00.200
<v Speaker 4>was flickering wow to signal.

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<v Speaker 3>Them this is like the old like rum runners approached.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, your boy, the real McCoy right, So.

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<v Speaker 4>They would like they would run the boats up onto

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<v Speaker 4>the beach because there's zodiacs just flat right there. And

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<v Speaker 4>then there was a human chain of unloaders who ran

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<v Speaker 4>the bales from the boats to a bunch of vans

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<v Speaker 4>waiting in a parking lot, and then the vans would

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<v Speaker 4>drive to one of Randy's stash houses. Randy sold it

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<v Speaker 4>all the next day. His take four point five million dollars.

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<v Speaker 4>It was like fifteen million today one night. Yes, So

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<v Speaker 4>Randy and his wife Pam, they're living it up, like

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<v Speaker 4>they got this new five bedroom house with a private lake,

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<v Speaker 4>got a couple of rotwilers patrolling rock whilers, patrolling the grounds.

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<v Speaker 3>So she fully knows what he does for a living.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, a Porsche Benzo. It's not bad for the

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<v Speaker 4>owner of a chain of jet ski rental shops. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, but hey, it's for Lauderdale. Things were big,

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<v Speaker 4>but they were about to get bigger.

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<v Speaker 3>I love bigger.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's take a break. When we come back, I'll tell

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<v Speaker 4>you about Randy's next seriously audacious plan Randy Lanier. No,

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<v Speaker 4>you're Zaron Brunette, but I want to tell you about Randy.

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<v Speaker 4>You today, you'll be Randy weed smuggler extraordinary. So here

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<v Speaker 4>we are in nineteen eighty two.

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<v Speaker 3>What a time, What a year.

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<v Speaker 4>Randy had a bunch of weed distributors, and one of

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<v Speaker 4>them introduced Randy and his partner Kramer, to Tip O'Neill,

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<v Speaker 4>who then became a tugboat captain for them.

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<v Speaker 3>It's in the Miami area.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll just keep running with it.

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<v Speaker 4>We get to and then the estate if tip O'Neil

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<v Speaker 4>can come after me anyway, So he introduces Ben and

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<v Speaker 4>Randy to this other smuggler, George Brock. Now Brock had

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<v Speaker 4>a vision. See he knew this other guy, Eugene Fisher.

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<v Speaker 4>Fisher owned a shipyard. He also owned an ocean going barge.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh he put on there like the flat decked time,

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<v Speaker 4>big as a football field. So Brock he did some calculations.

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<v Speaker 3>Beboo babo beat weed in this.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he was like a barge could hold more than

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<v Speaker 4>one hundred tons of marijuana. And that's like more than

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<v Speaker 4>two hundred thousand pounds of weed totally. So according to

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<v Speaker 4>rolling Stone quote. The scheme was simple, but ingenius. Welders

0:18:45.680 --> 0:18:49.560
<v Speaker 4>sealed the bales under steel plates. The secret compartments were

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<v Speaker 4>then filled with seawater so that a curious customs official

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<v Speaker 4>would find only Brian. In early nineteen eighty three, the

0:18:56.280 --> 0:18:59.520
<v Speaker 4>barge sailed up New York's East River and docked at

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<v Speaker 4>the Brooklyn Navy Yard. Damn side living low, like pulling

0:19:04.800 --> 0:19:07.760
<v Speaker 4>two hundred thousand pounds, it's like winds up being a

0:19:07.800 --> 0:19:10.280
<v Speaker 4>little bit less than that of weed up into.

0:19:10.160 --> 0:19:12.240
<v Speaker 3>Brooklyn, right into New York's harbor.

0:19:12.359 --> 0:19:15.800
<v Speaker 4>This is insane. So they get to the Brooklyn Navy Yard.

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<v Speaker 4>Randy's guys used welding torches to cut through the ballast

0:19:19.400 --> 0:19:24.760
<v Speaker 4>tanks inside one hundred and thirty thousand pounds of Columbian gold.

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<v Speaker 5>That's all, by the way, a lot of work to

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<v Speaker 5>cut through with welders torches. Yeah, it's like the place

0:19:30.400 --> 0:19:32.639
<v Speaker 5>you would get caught after all that work when you

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<v Speaker 5>get welding down there.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So the tanks are opened, another crew comes moves

0:19:38.760 --> 0:19:41.440
<v Speaker 4>the bales of weed into tractor trailers like big rigs.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah totally, And so now Randy is rich, rich, oh

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<v Speaker 2>big time.

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<v Speaker 4>Doing the math from the ursa minor job. That run

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<v Speaker 4>had to be worth thirty nine million, which is one

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<v Speaker 4>hundred and twenty four million today. But you figure he's

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<v Speaker 4>got to cut all these other folks in a blue

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<v Speaker 4>blah profit.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's a big time job.

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<v Speaker 4>So that money immediately began burning a hole in his pocket. Yeah,

0:20:04.320 --> 0:20:07.040
<v Speaker 4>he put a lot of it into putting together a

0:20:07.200 --> 0:20:10.520
<v Speaker 4>professional racing team like race car. Yeah, he bought two

0:20:10.640 --> 0:20:14.880
<v Speaker 4>race cars, bought a warehouse to uses the home base.

0:20:14.960 --> 0:20:18.879
<v Speaker 4>He hired an ex Formula one crew chief and a

0:20:19.000 --> 0:20:20.080
<v Speaker 4>team of mechanics.

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<v Speaker 5>What classes he racing Formula one, Formula not NASCAR Formula one.

0:20:24.040 --> 0:20:28.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he graduated go fast. He called his new racing

0:20:28.840 --> 0:20:29.959
<v Speaker 4>team blue Thunder.

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<v Speaker 2>Whin yeah so good.

0:20:32.920 --> 0:20:36.280
<v Speaker 5>And that was this is like early eighties, so the

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<v Speaker 5>TV show and movie Blue Thunder had probably come out.

0:20:38.800 --> 0:20:42.480
<v Speaker 5>He's imitating possibly the helicopter.

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<v Speaker 4>Right right, So just like in most professional sports, if

0:20:47.320 --> 0:20:50.159
<v Speaker 4>you have money, you can buy success totally. And so

0:20:50.520 --> 0:20:52.880
<v Speaker 4>at the end of the nineteen eighty four season, look

0:20:52.880 --> 0:20:57.200
<v Speaker 4>at the Dodgers, right, Randy was named Camel GT Champion

0:20:57.280 --> 0:21:00.960
<v Speaker 4>as well as most Improved Driver. Really improved Driver is

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<v Speaker 4>like the best worst award I can think of getting

0:21:05.000 --> 0:21:09.679
<v Speaker 4>most improved. So the smuggling had never stopped. He had

0:21:09.720 --> 0:21:12.320
<v Speaker 4>a team to fund now and they so they did

0:21:12.400 --> 0:21:17.000
<v Speaker 4>another barge run. This one had seventy five tons of

0:21:17.080 --> 0:21:21.440
<v Speaker 4>Colombian gold in it. He was making tens of millions

0:21:21.480 --> 0:21:25.800
<v Speaker 4>of dollars. His lifestyle reflected it. He had like expensive cars,

0:21:25.960 --> 0:21:27.119
<v Speaker 4>vacation hull, the.

0:21:27.200 --> 0:21:29.320
<v Speaker 3>Most feathered hair you've ever seen feathered.

0:21:29.440 --> 0:21:31.720
<v Speaker 4>I feel like he and his crew probably all walked

0:21:31.760 --> 0:21:34.600
<v Speaker 4>around in those like football jerseys that are cut off

0:21:34.720 --> 0:21:37.400
<v Speaker 4>like half short, say Hawaii eighty four.

0:21:37.400 --> 0:21:41.240
<v Speaker 5>And then like the short short cutoff jeans shorts, Yeah,

0:21:41.520 --> 0:21:43.480
<v Speaker 5>with the fraying at the bottom, a little bit of

0:21:43.520 --> 0:21:45.080
<v Speaker 5>white pocket exactly.

0:21:44.840 --> 0:21:48.520
<v Speaker 4>Pockets longer than the than the inn scene. So the money,

0:21:48.600 --> 0:21:50.959
<v Speaker 4>all this money has to be laundered, of course, naturally,

0:21:51.160 --> 0:21:54.000
<v Speaker 4>and so Randy and Ben they had a bunch of

0:21:54.119 --> 0:21:58.280
<v Speaker 4>foreign bank accounts shell companies, and one of these companies

0:21:58.400 --> 0:22:01.440
<v Speaker 4>funded the construction of a one hundred thousand square foot

0:22:01.560 --> 0:22:06.200
<v Speaker 4>casino called the Bell Gardens Bicycle Club in Bell Garden, California.

0:22:06.720 --> 0:22:10.240
<v Speaker 4>It's now called Park West Bicycle Casino, and it's still

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<v Speaker 4>like a poker card room. The whole thing was funded

0:22:13.440 --> 0:22:19.160
<v Speaker 4>by a variety of drug smugglers. It was like a cooperative. Yeah,

0:22:19.240 --> 0:22:21.360
<v Speaker 4>it was as a means to launder money. And it's

0:22:21.400 --> 0:22:24.440
<v Speaker 4>like both during construction and in the operation. And it

0:22:24.520 --> 0:22:27.159
<v Speaker 4>was actually Ben's dad who was the guy behind the

0:22:27.200 --> 0:22:31.919
<v Speaker 4>whole card room plan. Anyway, the laundering operation was huge.

0:22:32.480 --> 0:22:34.560
<v Speaker 4>There were tons of fake corporations.

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<v Speaker 3>I wonder how much crack money went into this, because

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<v Speaker 3>it's the early eighties in.

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<v Speaker 4>Your bell Garden, I think, yeah, Bellgard.

0:22:39.280 --> 0:22:39.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>One of their fake companies was called g Reedy Holding Company.

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<v Speaker 5>Greedy Greedy, Oh right, even better.

0:22:49.600 --> 0:22:54.040
<v Speaker 4>They used banks in England, Panama, Hong Kong, British Vision Islands,

0:22:54.200 --> 0:22:55.480
<v Speaker 4>other places, all.

0:22:55.400 --> 0:22:56.679
<v Speaker 3>The best money laundering spots.

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<v Speaker 4>And what was Randy up to right now?

0:22:59.119 --> 0:23:00.760
<v Speaker 3>What was now?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh?

0:23:01.880 --> 0:23:05.520
<v Speaker 4>Glad that I made you ask? That he was training

0:23:05.600 --> 0:23:08.280
<v Speaker 4>for the Indianapolis five hundred are you kidding? And the

0:23:08.440 --> 0:23:12.480
<v Speaker 4>number one race in America, So Randy had the money

0:23:12.560 --> 0:23:16.840
<v Speaker 4>to go full in on training. In May nineteen eighty six,

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<v Speaker 4>a week before the race, he learned that his distributor

0:23:20.400 --> 0:23:26.440
<v Speaker 4>in Louisiana had been arrested and was cooperating with the FBI. Oh,

0:23:26.920 --> 0:23:31.200
<v Speaker 4>and the FBI was surveilling Randy oh no, yeah, this

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<v Speaker 4>is a week before the Indy five hundred, and so

0:23:33.840 --> 0:23:36.960
<v Speaker 4>there was another shipment on its way in. As he

0:23:37.080 --> 0:23:41.040
<v Speaker 4>heard all of this, eighty three tons of weed on

0:23:41.119 --> 0:23:42.280
<v Speaker 4>its way to Louisiana.

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<v Speaker 3>Whoa on the barge going to New Orleans?

0:23:45.920 --> 0:23:49.159
<v Speaker 4>Basically, yeah, thereabouts, Randy got in touch with the captain

0:23:49.200 --> 0:23:52.159
<v Speaker 4>of the ship and was like, redirect, redirect, don't go

0:23:52.280 --> 0:23:52.959
<v Speaker 4>to Louisiana.

0:23:53.320 --> 0:23:56.120
<v Speaker 2>He tells him, head south, tolle.

0:23:55.640 --> 0:23:58.680
<v Speaker 4>Go through the Panama Canal. Oh wow, then head north

0:23:58.720 --> 0:23:59.960
<v Speaker 4>in the Pacific to California.

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<v Speaker 3>Guys like.

0:24:03.520 --> 0:24:05.960
<v Speaker 4>All of this is right when he's getting ready for

0:24:06.040 --> 0:24:07.720
<v Speaker 4>the Indy five hundred, Like, if this is.

0:24:07.760 --> 0:24:11.240
<v Speaker 3>Stressful, I got a focus, I got them Andretti's.

0:24:11.440 --> 0:24:16.240
<v Speaker 4>Years later, Dale Earnhardt Junior went marvel at these circumstances

0:24:16.320 --> 0:24:22.920
<v Speaker 4>on his podcast while interviewing Randy Dale Junior. U. But

0:24:23.200 --> 0:24:26.000
<v Speaker 4>Randy races and he still managed to come in just

0:24:26.200 --> 0:24:27.320
<v Speaker 4>nine cars behind.

0:24:27.560 --> 0:24:29.280
<v Speaker 2>What that's not bad at all.

0:24:29.359 --> 0:24:32.680
<v Speaker 4>He was actually the only rookie driver to finish that year. Really,

0:24:32.840 --> 0:24:35.840
<v Speaker 4>and he clocked the fastest speed in history during pre

0:24:36.040 --> 0:24:40.080
<v Speaker 4>qualifying lapse, breaking Michael Andretti's previous record.

0:24:40.440 --> 0:24:45.480
<v Speaker 3>What past that crowd?

0:24:45.760 --> 0:24:49.040
<v Speaker 4>This is an awards banquet after the race, and Randy

0:24:49.200 --> 0:24:51.680
<v Speaker 4>was presented with the Indy five hundreds Rookie of the

0:24:51.800 --> 0:24:52.359
<v Speaker 4>Year Award.

0:24:52.840 --> 0:24:54.240
<v Speaker 2>Get it signed, Randy.

0:24:54.720 --> 0:24:57.080
<v Speaker 4>So he's like floating on air at this point, like

0:24:57.200 --> 0:24:59.440
<v Speaker 4>what a life is racing in the Indy five hundred.

0:24:59.520 --> 0:25:04.000
<v Speaker 4>He's driving exotic cars, living in palatial homes, smuggling tons

0:25:04.040 --> 0:25:04.520
<v Speaker 4>of weeds.

0:25:04.720 --> 0:25:09.879
<v Speaker 3>He is living the early eighties dream right now, dreams right.

0:25:10.480 --> 0:25:14.119
<v Speaker 4>But then don't forget there's that barge that he had

0:25:14.119 --> 0:25:17.280
<v Speaker 4>to be just a few months after his turn in

0:25:17.280 --> 0:25:21.119
<v Speaker 4>the eighty five hundred, finds himself sitting in a rented

0:25:21.200 --> 0:25:23.960
<v Speaker 4>car in a parking lot near a harbor on the

0:25:24.000 --> 0:25:28.040
<v Speaker 4>San Francisco Bay there waiting on that boat that was

0:25:28.119 --> 0:25:29.760
<v Speaker 4>originally headed for Louisiana.

0:25:30.200 --> 0:25:31.160
<v Speaker 3>Where do they plan on, Doc?

0:25:31.200 --> 0:25:34.359
<v Speaker 4>And I kept they kept saying near San Francisco, and

0:25:34.400 --> 0:25:37.280
<v Speaker 4>I'm thinking, like South City, some of.

0:25:37.280 --> 0:25:40.320
<v Speaker 3>Those could have been Oakland. Yeah, you know.

0:25:40.480 --> 0:25:43.240
<v Speaker 4>But here's the thing, though, is that the Oakland, like

0:25:43.359 --> 0:25:47.080
<v Speaker 4>all those port slips, are so union controlled you can

0:25:47.160 --> 0:25:48.800
<v Speaker 4>just roll up. That's why I think it's going to

0:25:48.840 --> 0:25:50.879
<v Speaker 4>be like Hunter's Point.

0:25:51.080 --> 0:25:56.399
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, baby, that's a little a little bit more loose. Yeah, anyway,

0:25:56.400 --> 0:25:57.760
<v Speaker 5>I would have gone to Long Beach where you can

0:25:57.800 --> 0:25:58.639
<v Speaker 5>actually bribe people.

0:25:59.400 --> 0:26:01.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I guess it's also a Union stronghold.

0:26:01.680 --> 0:26:03.840
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, but it's a little bit bigger. There's enough, there's

0:26:03.920 --> 0:26:05.440
<v Speaker 5>enough to get lost in Margache.

0:26:05.520 --> 0:26:06.200
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's true.

0:26:06.520 --> 0:26:08.600
<v Speaker 5>Could have known a Richmond, they could have been That's

0:26:08.600 --> 0:26:10.879
<v Speaker 5>what we're with all the metal salvage. People are definitely

0:26:10.880 --> 0:26:12.480
<v Speaker 5>looking past that. And there's a lot of like you know,

0:26:12.600 --> 0:26:15.639
<v Speaker 5>Asians like travel, so like they thought it Like, I

0:26:15.680 --> 0:26:17.480
<v Speaker 5>don't know what's what the words is coming from.

0:26:17.600 --> 0:26:20.200
<v Speaker 4>I'm just trying to think of the size of this barge.

0:26:20.840 --> 0:26:24.800
<v Speaker 4>Where would it go. This us to be fascinating for

0:26:24.840 --> 0:26:27.040
<v Speaker 4>people who have no idea about the layout of San

0:26:27.080 --> 0:26:31.480
<v Speaker 4>Francisco Bay anyway, cargo options exactly. So he's sitting in

0:26:31.560 --> 0:26:34.800
<v Speaker 4>a parking lot near harbor on the Bay waiting for

0:26:34.920 --> 0:26:38.560
<v Speaker 4>the boat. He gets a message on his radio.

0:26:38.520 --> 0:26:41.320
<v Speaker 3>And he's still under FBI investigation, and he knows it, and.

0:26:41.359 --> 0:26:44.800
<v Speaker 4>He knows it. There's trouble with the cargo. Water got

0:26:44.880 --> 0:26:47.680
<v Speaker 4>into the one of the sealed compartments full of weed,

0:26:48.280 --> 0:26:51.480
<v Speaker 4>and the marijuana was rotting and putting off methane.

0:26:52.000 --> 0:26:52.400
<v Speaker 3>Oh god.

0:26:52.520 --> 0:26:54.600
<v Speaker 4>And when the crew went to use torches to cut

0:26:54.680 --> 0:26:59.879
<v Speaker 4>open the compartments. Explosion and fire, Oh because methane. Of course,

0:27:00.040 --> 0:27:02.480
<v Speaker 4>two of the guys died, so moment of silence for

0:27:02.560 --> 0:27:07.040
<v Speaker 4>one percent. So the remaining crew, they're worried that the

0:27:07.200 --> 0:27:09.800
<v Speaker 4>whole thing is going to go right. Yeah, So they

0:27:09.920 --> 0:27:13.399
<v Speaker 4>salvage what they could without opening the other compartments. How

0:27:13.480 --> 0:27:15.600
<v Speaker 4>they do that, I don't know, And they shipped off

0:27:15.680 --> 0:27:18.800
<v Speaker 4>what they could in trucks and then the barge was

0:27:18.960 --> 0:27:21.760
<v Speaker 4>set out into the ocean and scuttled, went to the

0:27:21.840 --> 0:27:25.719
<v Speaker 4>briny deep holding the two expired welders too. There are

0:27:25.800 --> 0:27:28.639
<v Speaker 4>many tragic tales in Davy Jones's locker.

0:27:28.440 --> 0:27:28.920
<v Speaker 3>You're telling you?

0:27:29.040 --> 0:27:33.119
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so Randy, Yeah, this I feel like was like

0:27:33.200 --> 0:27:36.120
<v Speaker 4>a turning point for Randy. He went back to Florida

0:27:36.200 --> 0:27:38.960
<v Speaker 4>a changed man. The whole thing rattled him, and he

0:27:39.040 --> 0:27:41.639
<v Speaker 4>knew the Feds were sniffing around, so he started to

0:27:41.680 --> 0:27:42.840
<v Speaker 4>get super paranoid.

0:27:43.720 --> 0:27:46.320
<v Speaker 3>One of his fans his racing career is going well,

0:27:46.480 --> 0:27:47.960
<v Speaker 3>so he's now got something to lose.

0:27:48.200 --> 0:27:50.480
<v Speaker 4>Sure, sure, but it's like he's kind of crossed a

0:27:50.600 --> 0:27:51.080
<v Speaker 4>line with this.

0:27:51.280 --> 0:27:53.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, definitely this point, he moved out.

0:27:53.359 --> 0:27:56.119
<v Speaker 4>Of his fancy house and into a condo that he

0:27:56.200 --> 0:27:57.400
<v Speaker 4>rented under a fake name.

0:27:57.760 --> 0:28:00.200
<v Speaker 3>Huh. So he's basically like low key on the run. Yeah.

0:28:00.200 --> 0:28:03.440
<v Speaker 4>He always used payphones to make calls, never landlines, and

0:28:03.560 --> 0:28:06.800
<v Speaker 4>certainly no like early cell phones. He went in and

0:28:06.920 --> 0:28:09.960
<v Speaker 4>out of the back doors of stores and restaurants and businesses.

0:28:11.080 --> 0:28:14.120
<v Speaker 4>He was like Henry Hill, Yeah, and fellas driving around

0:28:14.160 --> 0:28:18.639
<v Speaker 4>looking at the exactly that a shoe dropped. In October

0:28:18.720 --> 0:28:22.400
<v Speaker 4>of nineteen eighty six, the DEA pressed charges on eleven

0:28:22.480 --> 0:28:26.240
<v Speaker 4>people for engaging in a major drug and money laundering organization.

0:28:26.960 --> 0:28:29.239
<v Speaker 4>Three of those people were at the center of it all,

0:28:29.760 --> 0:28:35.119
<v Speaker 4>Randy Ben and Ben's dad, Jack Kramer. Remember Jack was

0:28:35.200 --> 0:28:38.520
<v Speaker 4>the casino one. By the way, Jack Kramer was married

0:28:38.600 --> 0:28:40.200
<v Speaker 4>to Meyer Lanski's niece.

0:28:40.680 --> 0:28:42.160
<v Speaker 2>Oh he deep yes, world.

0:28:42.840 --> 0:28:46.719
<v Speaker 4>So the charges detailed their efforts to smuggle more than

0:28:46.720 --> 0:28:50.280
<v Speaker 4>one hundred thousand pounds of marijuana into South Florida between

0:28:50.400 --> 0:28:53.440
<v Speaker 4>September of nineteen eighty three and June of nineteen eighty six.

0:28:53.600 --> 0:28:55.360
<v Speaker 3>And now he's in a new race, which is who's

0:28:55.360 --> 0:28:56.480
<v Speaker 3>going to flip on who first?

0:28:56.680 --> 0:29:00.440
<v Speaker 4>Uh huh. But he's not even talking about the aren't

0:29:00.440 --> 0:29:03.280
<v Speaker 4>talking about New York California. This is just the South.

0:29:03.080 --> 0:29:05.520
<v Speaker 3>Florida stuff they know about you down there.

0:29:05.680 --> 0:29:09.040
<v Speaker 4>Now, Randy had broken his leg in a crash at

0:29:09.160 --> 0:29:12.280
<v Speaker 4>the Michigan five hundred oh and like, bad luck is

0:29:12.320 --> 0:29:15.000
<v Speaker 4>all he knew at this point, so he surrendered to

0:29:15.080 --> 0:29:18.040
<v Speaker 4>the FEDS. He posted one hundred thousand dollars bail and

0:29:18.160 --> 0:29:21.160
<v Speaker 4>was released. Okay, Now, remember when I said just moments

0:29:21.200 --> 0:29:24.120
<v Speaker 4>ago that they weren't even talking about New York or California.

0:29:24.600 --> 0:29:24.960
<v Speaker 3>It wasn't.

0:29:25.640 --> 0:29:29.120
<v Speaker 4>I take that back. Oh. A couple months later, FBI

0:29:29.400 --> 0:29:32.360
<v Speaker 4>comes at him for smuggling one hundred and fifty tons

0:29:32.680 --> 0:29:35.480
<v Speaker 4>of marijuana into US ports over a three year period.

0:29:35.560 --> 0:29:38.480
<v Speaker 5>I have one question, Elizabeth, why was he still in

0:29:38.600 --> 0:29:40.960
<v Speaker 5>the country. They had gotten him out there at this point.

0:29:41.080 --> 0:29:42.960
<v Speaker 5>You got that kind of money, you need to run

0:29:43.080 --> 0:29:43.680
<v Speaker 5>something tight.

0:29:44.480 --> 0:29:46.840
<v Speaker 4>So when you add it all up, Randy and company

0:29:46.960 --> 0:29:51.400
<v Speaker 4>were busted for bringing more than six hundred thousand pounds

0:29:51.640 --> 0:29:56.120
<v Speaker 4>of marijuana into the country six hundred thousand pounds with

0:29:56.240 --> 0:30:00.480
<v Speaker 4>a Z at the end pounds. In February of nineteen

0:30:00.480 --> 0:30:02.240
<v Speaker 4>eighty seven, Randy was doing.

0:30:02.120 --> 0:30:06.520
<v Speaker 5>Court, so the FED basically, anybody like you know, our parents' age,

0:30:06.600 --> 0:30:08.120
<v Speaker 5>probably smoked some of the pot.

0:30:07.920 --> 0:30:09.080
<v Speaker 3>That he brought into the country.

0:30:09.200 --> 0:30:11.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly if you were smoking Colombia.

0:30:11.040 --> 0:30:12.560
<v Speaker 4>You were smoking Colombian gold.

0:30:12.680 --> 0:30:12.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:30:13.400 --> 0:30:14.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, anywhere on the.

0:30:14.680 --> 0:30:17.680
<v Speaker 5>Eastern seaboard in particular perhaps and perhaps parts of.

0:30:17.720 --> 0:30:19.000
<v Speaker 4>California sit around the Bay.

0:30:19.120 --> 0:30:19.320
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

0:30:20.080 --> 0:30:23.160
<v Speaker 4>So Randy has to go to court February nineteen eighty seven,

0:30:23.480 --> 0:30:26.160
<v Speaker 4>and the Feds were like, you have some options. You

0:30:26.280 --> 0:30:29.920
<v Speaker 4>can face a life sentence, or you can turn state's

0:30:30.000 --> 0:30:36.320
<v Speaker 4>evidence and get ten years. Randy's like, I'll take option three. Saren,

0:30:36.480 --> 0:30:40.280
<v Speaker 4>close your eyes. Yes, I want you to picture it.

0:30:45.760 --> 0:30:48.720
<v Speaker 4>You work at a bagel shop in Fort Lauderdale, Florida.

0:30:49.160 --> 0:30:52.160
<v Speaker 4>It's the morning rush. Various professionals wait in line for

0:30:52.280 --> 0:30:56.440
<v Speaker 4>their bagels and coffee. You are working their register. People

0:30:56.520 --> 0:30:59.960
<v Speaker 4>in suits, construction workers in their gear, doctors and nurse

0:31:00.240 --> 0:31:03.000
<v Speaker 4>from the hospital down the road. They all wait patiently

0:31:03.120 --> 0:31:06.760
<v Speaker 4>for their choice of shmear. Above you, a TV shows

0:31:06.800 --> 0:31:10.400
<v Speaker 4>the local morning news. The volume's low. The owner has

0:31:10.480 --> 0:31:12.760
<v Speaker 4>it on so the customers can see the weather and

0:31:12.920 --> 0:31:15.760
<v Speaker 4>traffic while they wait in the morning, and any crazy

0:31:15.840 --> 0:31:19.120
<v Speaker 4>major news stories. Right now, the screen above you shows

0:31:19.160 --> 0:31:21.680
<v Speaker 4>a weather radar map. The sky is clear for the

0:31:21.800 --> 0:31:25.640
<v Speaker 4>foreseeable future. The door chimes as another customer comes in

0:31:25.760 --> 0:31:28.720
<v Speaker 4>and joins the line. You finish taking an order, ringing

0:31:28.760 --> 0:31:30.840
<v Speaker 4>them up, and then looking at the line to call

0:31:30.960 --> 0:31:34.200
<v Speaker 4>the next person. Everyone in line is now looking up

0:31:34.200 --> 0:31:36.840
<v Speaker 4>at the TV screen. You turn around and stare up

0:31:36.880 --> 0:31:40.320
<v Speaker 4>at it. A reporter stands across the street from Grand

0:31:40.480 --> 0:31:44.600
<v Speaker 4>Gates outside a super fancy home. Behind him, two cops

0:31:44.680 --> 0:31:47.400
<v Speaker 4>in tactical gear walk by. You see someone in a

0:31:47.560 --> 0:31:51.320
<v Speaker 4>DEA windbreaker talking to a lady in an FBI windbreaker

0:31:51.880 --> 0:31:55.120
<v Speaker 4>alphabet soup. One of the guys in line cracks. The

0:31:55.200 --> 0:31:57.800
<v Speaker 4>lady in front of him laughs. You look back at

0:31:57.880 --> 0:32:01.280
<v Speaker 4>the line, and the man three customers looks like he's

0:32:01.320 --> 0:32:04.200
<v Speaker 4>seen a ghost. He stares at the screen for a

0:32:04.240 --> 0:32:06.640
<v Speaker 4>little while longer, and then ducks out a line and

0:32:06.840 --> 0:32:09.760
<v Speaker 4>races to the payphone against the wall. He puts in

0:32:09.840 --> 0:32:12.280
<v Speaker 4>a quarter, pulls a folded up sheet of paper from

0:32:12.320 --> 0:32:14.280
<v Speaker 4>his back pocket, and dials a number. He seems to

0:32:14.360 --> 0:32:17.600
<v Speaker 4>read from the paper. He waits, and when it seems

0:32:17.640 --> 0:32:21.280
<v Speaker 4>like someone has answered, he says, Uh, yeah, yet, my wife,

0:32:21.400 --> 0:32:24.480
<v Speaker 4>Pam Lanier is a patient there. She just had a baby,

0:32:24.840 --> 0:32:27.640
<v Speaker 4>our baby a couple days ago. Uh can you connect

0:32:27.680 --> 0:32:30.840
<v Speaker 4>me to her room? The guy waits in silence, staring

0:32:30.880 --> 0:32:33.360
<v Speaker 4>out the window of the shop. It's funny. No one

0:32:33.440 --> 0:32:36.400
<v Speaker 4>ever uses the payphone in here. Well every now and then,

0:32:36.920 --> 0:32:39.760
<v Speaker 4>and it's almost always to call home to ask someone

0:32:39.840 --> 0:32:42.320
<v Speaker 4>what they wanted or what they would want as a substitution.

0:32:42.440 --> 0:32:44.840
<v Speaker 4>If their first request is sold out, you hear a

0:32:44.920 --> 0:32:48.520
<v Speaker 4>lot of honey, did you want onion with the locks capers?

0:32:48.720 --> 0:32:48.760
<v Speaker 3>No?

0:32:49.120 --> 0:32:52.160
<v Speaker 4>Okay. In fact, that's why the owner had the phone

0:32:52.200 --> 0:32:54.440
<v Speaker 4>company install the phone inside so that out on the

0:32:54.520 --> 0:32:57.800
<v Speaker 4>sidewalk more convenient for the customers. He thinks of everything.

0:32:58.600 --> 0:33:00.520
<v Speaker 4>You expect the guy to ask us wife if she

0:33:00.640 --> 0:33:04.040
<v Speaker 4>wants poppy seed or an egg bagel that maybe he

0:33:04.080 --> 0:33:06.240
<v Speaker 4>couldn't remember. Instead, you hear him.

0:33:06.080 --> 0:33:07.560
<v Speaker 2>Say whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

0:33:07.720 --> 0:33:11.520
<v Speaker 4>Slow down. The babysitter said, what, Yeah, I know they're

0:33:11.560 --> 0:33:13.760
<v Speaker 4>at the house. I just saw it on the news. Yes,

0:33:14.240 --> 0:33:16.600
<v Speaker 4>I am aware. When am I coming to get you?

0:33:17.400 --> 0:33:20.080
<v Speaker 4>The man stares out the window. A customer walks by

0:33:20.160 --> 0:33:23.480
<v Speaker 4>him to leave, setting off the door time. Finally he speaks,

0:33:24.280 --> 0:33:27.200
<v Speaker 4>I'm leaving. I'm not coming to get you, he says.

0:33:27.800 --> 0:33:29.800
<v Speaker 4>Then he hangs up the phone and walks out of

0:33:29.840 --> 0:33:32.920
<v Speaker 4>the shop. You've been so distracted. You weren't listening to

0:33:33.000 --> 0:33:34.920
<v Speaker 4>the lady in front of you as she rattled off

0:33:35.000 --> 0:33:38.520
<v Speaker 4>her very intricate order. You ask her to repeat herself,

0:33:38.600 --> 0:33:41.120
<v Speaker 4>and she sighs. You look back up at the screen.

0:33:41.280 --> 0:33:47.640
<v Speaker 4>Everything clicking, Hot dog, you just saw a drug kingpin. Yes, Zaren,

0:33:48.080 --> 0:33:51.120
<v Speaker 4>let's take a break and let me return. We'll go

0:33:51.240 --> 0:34:15.120
<v Speaker 4>find Randy. Okay, all right, Zaren. Before the break, I

0:34:15.280 --> 0:34:17.720
<v Speaker 4>was telling you about how Randy saw his house getting

0:34:17.800 --> 0:34:19.560
<v Speaker 4>raided while he was waiting in line to pick up

0:34:19.600 --> 0:34:22.520
<v Speaker 4>bagels for his wife. Very well rendered after she gave

0:34:22.600 --> 0:34:23.600
<v Speaker 4>birth to their second child.

0:34:23.640 --> 0:34:24.160
<v Speaker 3>So that was real.

0:34:24.239 --> 0:34:25.160
<v Speaker 2>That was that was real?

0:34:25.360 --> 0:34:25.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:34:25.719 --> 0:34:29.080
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So their first kid was at home with the babysitter. Randy,

0:34:29.400 --> 0:34:31.759
<v Speaker 4>not a good dad, decided to just make a break

0:34:31.840 --> 0:34:34.240
<v Speaker 4>for it, and also not a good husband.

0:34:34.440 --> 0:34:36.719
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I liked his instinct to run.

0:34:37.080 --> 0:34:38.880
<v Speaker 5>I think he should have done it much earlier, and

0:34:38.960 --> 0:34:41.560
<v Speaker 5>he probably should have taken his wife and children with him, right,

0:34:42.000 --> 0:34:43.360
<v Speaker 5>I mean, that's why you get the money.

0:34:43.280 --> 0:34:43.840
<v Speaker 2>Right, exactly.

0:34:44.800 --> 0:34:46.759
<v Speaker 4>So he hitched a ride in a big rig and

0:34:46.880 --> 0:34:49.600
<v Speaker 4>rode all the way up to Pennsylvania. Okay, and then

0:34:49.640 --> 0:34:50.960
<v Speaker 4>he used a phony passport.

0:34:51.120 --> 0:34:51.560
<v Speaker 3>Good move.

0:34:51.760 --> 0:34:54.279
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he used a fake passport, got on a flight

0:34:54.360 --> 0:34:57.319
<v Speaker 4>to London, okay, and it was there that he met

0:34:57.400 --> 0:35:01.160
<v Speaker 4>up with someone, his girlfriend. Oh no, oh, Zaren, you

0:35:01.280 --> 0:35:03.000
<v Speaker 4>had to believe a guy like this would be stepping

0:35:03.040 --> 0:35:03.759
<v Speaker 4>out on his wife.

0:35:04.440 --> 0:35:06.560
<v Speaker 3>He probably should have. You know why, I'm so innocent,

0:35:06.640 --> 0:35:07.160
<v Speaker 3>so naive.

0:35:07.239 --> 0:35:11.799
<v Speaker 4>You know why why? Because he is a piece of Yeah.

0:35:12.120 --> 0:35:14.160
<v Speaker 4>So he met the girlfriend.

0:35:14.280 --> 0:35:15.560
<v Speaker 3>He didn't enjoy the research.

0:35:16.239 --> 0:35:20.000
<v Speaker 4>He'd met the girlfriend, Maria de la LuSE Maggie, while

0:35:20.120 --> 0:35:22.560
<v Speaker 4>still in Florida. The two of them met up in

0:35:22.680 --> 0:35:25.839
<v Speaker 4>London and then just like flitted around Europe living it up.

0:35:26.000 --> 0:35:29.280
<v Speaker 4>Oh god, Remember he had tons of money and offshore accounts.

0:35:29.400 --> 0:35:30.920
<v Speaker 3>He's got a pregnant wife at home.

0:35:31.080 --> 0:35:32.600
<v Speaker 2>He just gave birth postpart.

0:35:33.840 --> 0:35:37.320
<v Speaker 4>So Randy and Maria they're staying in five star hotels.

0:35:37.320 --> 0:35:38.239
<v Speaker 3>When they were doing that part.

0:35:38.280 --> 0:35:43.200
<v Speaker 4>But they're doing that, yeah, exactly, five star hotels, rolling

0:35:43.239 --> 0:35:46.799
<v Speaker 4>the dice in Monte Carlo, while Pam was back home

0:35:46.920 --> 0:35:50.600
<v Speaker 4>nursing a newborn, while the FBI pawed through her underwear

0:35:50.680 --> 0:35:54.239
<v Speaker 4>drawer like this is fun. Everybody's having fun, I tell you.

0:35:54.920 --> 0:35:54.960
<v Speaker 3>So.

0:35:55.120 --> 0:35:57.359
<v Speaker 4>The thing is, there were some loose ends Randy had

0:35:57.400 --> 0:35:58.920
<v Speaker 4>to tie up. He had to make a trip to

0:35:59.000 --> 0:36:02.719
<v Speaker 4>Antigua to deal with some property he owned there. Why,

0:36:03.800 --> 0:36:06.719
<v Speaker 4>he had a sixty foot Hatteras fishing boat there too,

0:36:07.360 --> 0:36:10.160
<v Speaker 4>And the ship's captain was an old smuggling buddy of his,

0:36:11.280 --> 0:36:14.279
<v Speaker 4>so when he and Maria got there, they trust. Yeah,

0:36:14.320 --> 0:36:16.759
<v Speaker 4>they stayed on the boat and they figured they just

0:36:16.880 --> 0:36:20.080
<v Speaker 4>like chill for a couple of weeks, like sip cocktails,

0:36:20.160 --> 0:36:20.879
<v Speaker 4>soak in the sun.

0:36:21.320 --> 0:36:23.200
<v Speaker 5>Do you think they took a boat from Europe over

0:36:24.080 --> 0:36:26.160
<v Speaker 5>I think they probably flew and then just got.

0:36:26.040 --> 0:36:28.319
<v Speaker 4>About and then well they had fake passports since yeah,

0:36:29.320 --> 0:36:32.919
<v Speaker 4>they just wanted island time. And then they're like, okay,

0:36:32.960 --> 0:36:34.560
<v Speaker 4>you know it'd be great is once we're done here,

0:36:34.640 --> 0:36:37.719
<v Speaker 4>we'll just take this boat and sail to Spain. How

0:36:37.800 --> 0:36:40.919
<v Speaker 4>funny is that there we go, everybody's having funds.

0:36:40.600 --> 0:36:44.680
<v Speaker 3>There, so uh, my favorite foods.

0:36:45.280 --> 0:36:49.200
<v Speaker 4>One early morning in late October nineteen eighty seven, the

0:36:49.840 --> 0:36:52.920
<v Speaker 4>ship pulled into a small harbor and there was a

0:36:52.960 --> 0:36:56.080
<v Speaker 4>ship behind them, a big old gray one, and Tiguan

0:36:56.160 --> 0:36:59.680
<v Speaker 4>government and the captain's like, you know, they're probably going

0:36:59.760 --> 0:37:03.719
<v Speaker 4>to check our papers, and so they they're watching this

0:37:03.880 --> 0:37:06.959
<v Speaker 4>big gray boat and then they see a small boat

0:37:07.080 --> 0:37:11.040
<v Speaker 4>full of guys in uniforms with guns pulled, pull away

0:37:11.120 --> 0:37:14.920
<v Speaker 4>from the big gray boat and head for Randy's vessel.

0:37:15.640 --> 0:37:16.600
<v Speaker 3>They're going to board us.

0:37:16.719 --> 0:37:19.360
<v Speaker 4>So Randy just like starts barking at the captain, like

0:37:19.440 --> 0:37:25.360
<v Speaker 4>put the zodiac in the water, bro jump. He jumps

0:37:25.400 --> 0:37:28.359
<v Speaker 4>in and speeds away, leaving Maria and the captain behind him.

0:37:28.360 --> 0:37:31.240
<v Speaker 3>Of course, total scumbag, Maria.

0:37:31.560 --> 0:37:33.600
<v Speaker 4>If he did it to someone else, he'll do it

0:37:33.719 --> 0:37:37.759
<v Speaker 4>to you. It's words to live by, ladies. Probably, I

0:37:37.840 --> 0:37:39.759
<v Speaker 4>know there are a lot of gals not along right now.

0:37:39.840 --> 0:37:41.520
<v Speaker 4>If he did it to someone else, he'll do it

0:37:41.560 --> 0:37:41.759
<v Speaker 4>to you.

0:37:41.960 --> 0:37:42.439
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah.

0:37:42.760 --> 0:37:46.319
<v Speaker 4>So Randy reached the dock at the harbor, hopped out

0:37:46.360 --> 0:37:50.560
<v Speaker 4>of the Zodi. Keep in mind he was just chilling

0:37:50.640 --> 0:37:54.279
<v Speaker 4>on the boat right island time. He's he's wearing bag

0:37:54.680 --> 0:37:59.640
<v Speaker 4>strimped swim trunks, flip flops, no shirt, and he had

0:37:59.719 --> 0:38:02.440
<v Speaker 4>noe to go but run up this hill covered in

0:38:02.600 --> 0:38:05.840
<v Speaker 4>saw palmettos, those sharp growing palm bushes.

0:38:05.960 --> 0:38:08.680
<v Speaker 3>God, those things ripped him up to get torn up.

0:38:08.840 --> 0:38:10.040
<v Speaker 4>His feet were bleeding.

0:38:10.239 --> 0:38:12.520
<v Speaker 3>Oh sure, luddy, you could just follow the blood trail.

0:38:12.680 --> 0:38:14.800
<v Speaker 4>And it's not like the antigues were only coming in

0:38:14.960 --> 0:38:15.960
<v Speaker 4>him on the water.

0:38:16.680 --> 0:38:18.680
<v Speaker 5>They were waiting on land too, so I am sure

0:38:18.680 --> 0:38:20.279
<v Speaker 5>the coast guards probably involved as well.

0:38:20.480 --> 0:38:22.520
<v Speaker 4>A bunch of jeeps pulled up at the bottom of

0:38:22.560 --> 0:38:26.520
<v Speaker 4>the hill and they were like, Randy, stop, Randy, and

0:38:26.600 --> 0:38:29.720
<v Speaker 4>he just like kept scrabbling, and they pulled their rifles,

0:38:29.800 --> 0:38:31.839
<v Speaker 4>and you know, is like pants are sagging, and they

0:38:31.880 --> 0:38:35.200
<v Speaker 4>can see the top of his butt, his flip flops.

0:38:35.280 --> 0:38:36.439
<v Speaker 2>He's blew out a flip flop.

0:38:37.080 --> 0:38:40.040
<v Speaker 4>Randy stop, and so then they pull out the rifles.

0:38:40.120 --> 0:38:45.040
<v Speaker 4>Randy stops scrabbling, did they No. He limped back down

0:38:45.080 --> 0:38:49.839
<v Speaker 4>the hill, topless, sunburned, bloody. So the police put them

0:38:49.880 --> 0:38:51.600
<v Speaker 4>on a plane. They're like, you're out of here, buddy.

0:38:51.840 --> 0:38:54.360
<v Speaker 4>We don't want your smuggling as types here. So they

0:38:54.440 --> 0:38:56.759
<v Speaker 4>flew him to Puerto Rico, where he was arrested by

0:38:56.760 --> 0:38:59.960
<v Speaker 4>the FEDS, because, contrary to common ignorant notions, Puerto Rico

0:39:00.120 --> 0:39:01.040
<v Speaker 4>was part of the United States.

0:39:01.120 --> 0:39:04.200
<v Speaker 3>Yes, and the DEA has full jurisdiction.

0:39:04.440 --> 0:39:06.840
<v Speaker 4>So a lot had been happening in the eight months

0:39:06.920 --> 0:39:07.919
<v Speaker 4>that he was on the Lamb.

0:39:08.360 --> 0:39:09.680
<v Speaker 3>He was on the Lamb for eight months.

0:39:10.120 --> 0:39:13.359
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. The FEDS tore up his dad's yard and found

0:39:13.400 --> 0:39:17.759
<v Speaker 4>two million dollars hidden inside PVC pipes. Meanwhile, he's like,

0:39:17.880 --> 0:39:22.840
<v Speaker 4>you know, sipping champagne in Paris. They ransacked another relative's

0:39:22.880 --> 0:39:25.160
<v Speaker 4>house and found five hundred thousand dollars in the basement.

0:39:25.600 --> 0:39:27.960
<v Speaker 3>Is going down like his address book. Let's just make

0:39:28.000 --> 0:39:28.600
<v Speaker 3>a date to day.

0:39:28.760 --> 0:39:32.719
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they tracked bank accounts, businesses. They connected the dots

0:39:32.800 --> 0:39:34.719
<v Speaker 4>to the casino in California.

0:39:34.360 --> 0:39:35.680
<v Speaker 3>Naturally, so now they're all screwed.

0:39:35.800 --> 0:39:40.960
<v Speaker 4>They seized his houses, in his cars, Pam. Pam was

0:39:41.040 --> 0:39:43.480
<v Speaker 4>a single mother with two kids now who had to

0:39:43.520 --> 0:39:46.279
<v Speaker 4>get a job cutting fruit at the local supermarket in

0:39:46.440 --> 0:39:49.279
<v Speaker 4>order to make ends meet. That's how Pam was doing.

0:39:50.160 --> 0:39:53.640
<v Speaker 4>His trial began in July of nineteen eighty eight. Two

0:39:53.840 --> 0:39:56.200
<v Speaker 4>dozen members of his crew testified against him.

0:39:56.200 --> 0:39:58.000
<v Speaker 2>Who dozen ouch.

0:39:58.080 --> 0:40:00.120
<v Speaker 3>Right to remember that race that's talking about who going

0:40:00.160 --> 0:40:00.520
<v Speaker 3>to flip on?

0:40:00.560 --> 0:40:00.680
<v Speaker 5>Who?

0:40:01.040 --> 0:40:05.560
<v Speaker 4>We found computers exactly to the first heat was wild,

0:40:06.400 --> 0:40:09.200
<v Speaker 4>so prosecutors laid it all out. He and his partners

0:40:09.239 --> 0:40:11.839
<v Speaker 4>had trafficked more than three hundred tons of marijuana into

0:40:11.880 --> 0:40:15.640
<v Speaker 4>the US. They'd run a smuggling empire that covered like

0:40:16.000 --> 0:40:19.680
<v Speaker 4>almost a dozen states, employed hundreds of people, So I

0:40:19.760 --> 0:40:23.840
<v Speaker 4>mean they were job creators, and Randy had made somewhere

0:40:24.120 --> 0:40:26.920
<v Speaker 4>around sixty eight million dollars along the way.

0:40:27.880 --> 0:40:30.080
<v Speaker 3>And he didn't think to put more of it overseas

0:40:30.719 --> 0:40:31.800
<v Speaker 3>his dad's backyard.

0:40:31.960 --> 0:40:34.400
<v Speaker 4>No, he only two million was in his dad's A

0:40:34.480 --> 0:40:35.400
<v Speaker 4>lot of it was overseas.

0:40:35.480 --> 0:40:36.319
<v Speaker 3>Okay, good for him.

0:40:36.400 --> 0:40:39.840
<v Speaker 4>So the trial lasted three months. There were sixty four witnesses.

0:40:40.280 --> 0:40:44.759
<v Speaker 4>It generated more than ten thousand pages of transcripts. Yeah.

0:40:45.280 --> 0:40:48.799
<v Speaker 4>So in the end, he and Ben and Fisher were

0:40:48.960 --> 0:40:54.760
<v Speaker 4>convicted of drug trafficking, fraud, and running a continuing criminal enterprise.

0:40:55.360 --> 0:40:58.399
<v Speaker 4>The government was ordered to seize one hundred and eighty

0:40:58.440 --> 0:41:01.320
<v Speaker 4>million dollars of their assets collectively, and this became the

0:41:01.480 --> 0:41:07.640
<v Speaker 4>largest federal forfeiture in US history. Randy got sentenced to

0:41:07.800 --> 0:41:11.719
<v Speaker 4>life in prison without possibility of parole. His dad got

0:41:11.800 --> 0:41:15.120
<v Speaker 4>time for burying the money in his own lawn. Randy's

0:41:15.160 --> 0:41:18.800
<v Speaker 4>brother didn't get charged, but the government seized his house

0:41:18.920 --> 0:41:21.920
<v Speaker 4>and auctioned it off because it was used for illegal activities.

0:41:22.080 --> 0:41:27.600
<v Speaker 4>Oh really, Oh freedom. Maria got nine years for Monday laundering.

0:41:28.160 --> 0:41:29.720
<v Speaker 4>Pam divorced Randy.

0:41:30.120 --> 0:41:34.040
<v Speaker 3>She didn't catch any charges, you know, Pam didn't she.

0:41:34.080 --> 0:41:36.840
<v Speaker 4>Didn't catch charges. She divorced Randy. So Randy and Maria

0:41:36.960 --> 0:41:39.320
<v Speaker 4>got married while respectively behind bars.

0:41:40.840 --> 0:41:41.000
<v Speaker 3>Huh.

0:41:41.239 --> 0:41:46.960
<v Speaker 4>Sure, Randy was put in medium security lockup, but he

0:41:47.080 --> 0:41:49.359
<v Speaker 4>had to be moved around a lot because he kept

0:41:49.360 --> 0:41:53.560
<v Speaker 4>trying to escape. At one prison, Randy tried to escape

0:41:53.560 --> 0:41:55.759
<v Speaker 4>by hiding inside a vending machine that was going to

0:41:55.800 --> 0:41:59.279
<v Speaker 4>be taken out to get fixed, and at another he

0:41:59.360 --> 0:42:03.560
<v Speaker 4>went on, here's when you're gonna like, according to Rolling

0:42:03.640 --> 0:42:07.680
<v Speaker 4>Stone quote, using a contraband phone, he conspired with a

0:42:07.760 --> 0:42:11.520
<v Speaker 4>helicopter pilot to spirit him from the exercise yard. A

0:42:11.600 --> 0:42:15.080
<v Speaker 4>prison official, alerted to the plan, summoned Laneer to his office.

0:42:15.480 --> 0:42:18.080
<v Speaker 4>If you think you're landing a helicopter in this prison,

0:42:18.200 --> 0:42:21.920
<v Speaker 4>he worn, I'm shooting you, and I'm shooting your helicopter.

0:42:21.560 --> 0:42:25.160
<v Speaker 2>Down France helicopter escapes.

0:42:25.320 --> 0:42:28.840
<v Speaker 4>But you know his wasn't the only one, really remember

0:42:28.920 --> 0:42:32.759
<v Speaker 4>Ben Kramer. In nineteen ninety, one of Kramer's buddies tried

0:42:32.760 --> 0:42:35.080
<v Speaker 4>to put together an escape using a helicopter. They were

0:42:35.120 --> 0:42:37.719
<v Speaker 4>going to have it fly into the exercise yard of

0:42:37.800 --> 0:42:41.479
<v Speaker 4>the Dade Metropolitan Correction Center where Ben was serving time,

0:42:41.560 --> 0:42:45.440
<v Speaker 4>and like pick him up and then per the publication

0:42:45.600 --> 0:42:50.560
<v Speaker 4>Jelopnik quote. Not surprisingly, the plan didn't work, as Kramer

0:42:50.640 --> 0:42:54.280
<v Speaker 4>held onto the runners of the helicopter. It's rear rotor

0:42:54.360 --> 0:42:57.360
<v Speaker 4>became entangled in a fence, oh, causing the machine to

0:42:57.400 --> 0:43:00.640
<v Speaker 4>come crashing down into the yard. Creamer's offered a broken

0:43:00.719 --> 0:43:04.799
<v Speaker 4>leg in the incident. Was so the Feds had had enough.

0:43:04.960 --> 0:43:09.400
<v Speaker 4>They sent Randy to the Supermax prison in Florence, Colorado,

0:43:10.080 --> 0:43:13.719
<v Speaker 4>where he was held Supermax where he was held in

0:43:13.800 --> 0:43:17.600
<v Speaker 4>solitary confinement. Oh lord, I don't think the escape attempts

0:43:17.640 --> 0:43:19.880
<v Speaker 4>were worth it to end up there, but Randy like

0:43:19.960 --> 0:43:25.720
<v Speaker 4>he chilled out. Eventually he took up meditation, painting, chess, yoga.

0:43:27.000 --> 0:43:30.880
<v Speaker 4>In late twenty fourteen, his lawyer and the government's attorney

0:43:30.960 --> 0:43:35.200
<v Speaker 4>filed a succession of motions, all sealed in federal court.

0:43:36.239 --> 0:43:38.120
<v Speaker 4>See Randy as I said, he was supposed to be

0:43:38.160 --> 0:43:38.719
<v Speaker 4>serving life.

0:43:38.800 --> 0:43:40.799
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, suggesto, right, But.

0:43:40.920 --> 0:43:44.840
<v Speaker 4>For reasons that never really became known or clear, that changed.

0:43:45.480 --> 0:43:48.040
<v Speaker 4>Randy attended a phone conference and was told by the

0:43:48.120 --> 0:43:52.360
<v Speaker 4>judge that he would be granted time served was years. No,

0:43:52.640 --> 0:43:57.000
<v Speaker 4>so was twenty fourteen bomber years. So he got out

0:43:57.080 --> 0:44:01.840
<v Speaker 4>October fifteenth. Twenty fourteen had been released back in nineteen

0:44:01.920 --> 0:44:04.840
<v Speaker 4>ninety nine. Yeah, yeah, but it didn't matter because they

0:44:04.880 --> 0:44:09.759
<v Speaker 4>weren't married anymore anyways, recently broke up in prison, so good.

0:44:10.560 --> 0:44:14.080
<v Speaker 4>According to Rolling Stone quote after his release, Lanier lived

0:44:14.120 --> 0:44:16.560
<v Speaker 4>in a half way house and drove for Uber, which

0:44:16.600 --> 0:44:20.800
<v Speaker 4>he pronounces Youber. And now part of the conditions of

0:44:20.840 --> 0:44:22.360
<v Speaker 4>his release is that he had to live in that

0:44:22.520 --> 0:44:26.120
<v Speaker 4>half way house for six months. He then had three

0:44:26.200 --> 0:44:28.840
<v Speaker 4>years of supervised release where he couldn't have guns or booze.

0:44:29.760 --> 0:44:33.319
<v Speaker 4>In twenty eighteen, he worked part time instructing non professionals

0:44:33.360 --> 0:44:37.279
<v Speaker 4>at the Homestead Miami Speedway, and he's now CEO at

0:44:37.320 --> 0:44:42.440
<v Speaker 4>a nonprofit called Freedom Grow, which helps provide quote services, comfort,

0:44:42.520 --> 0:44:46.000
<v Speaker 4>and eventually freedom to other non violent cannabis offenders.

0:44:46.360 --> 0:44:48.280
<v Speaker 3>Huh, so he's trying to help his people.

0:44:48.400 --> 0:44:50.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and he also, at least does of twenty twenty two,

0:44:50.840 --> 0:44:52.560
<v Speaker 4>is licensed to grow weed in New Jersey.

0:44:53.120 --> 0:44:55.440
<v Speaker 2>Really they came, apparently they did.

0:44:56.520 --> 0:44:59.520
<v Speaker 4>And he appears on the Weirdest podcast. Like I think

0:44:59.560 --> 0:45:02.359
<v Speaker 4>he got into bodybuilding because he shows up on those

0:45:02.480 --> 0:45:04.400
<v Speaker 4>types of shows a lot. He's like, oh, ripped all

0:45:04.400 --> 0:45:07.080
<v Speaker 4>the pictures in his prison. Yeah, and then there's all

0:45:07.120 --> 0:45:08.800
<v Speaker 4>the racing stuff. Car guys love it.

0:45:08.960 --> 0:45:11.520
<v Speaker 5>Of course I thought about that, you said earlier. Dale

0:45:11.600 --> 0:45:14.200
<v Speaker 5>or podcast podcast.

0:45:14.440 --> 0:45:17.759
<v Speaker 4>Sizarin, what's your ridiculous takeaway here? Uh?

0:45:17.960 --> 0:45:20.400
<v Speaker 5>I know this is foolish, and I know this is

0:45:20.480 --> 0:45:22.719
<v Speaker 5>probably wrong, but I think I would have been a

0:45:22.920 --> 0:45:25.560
<v Speaker 5>hell of a pot smuggler in the seventies and eighties,

0:45:26.040 --> 0:45:28.560
<v Speaker 5>and once I hit a certain level, I wouldn't have

0:45:28.600 --> 0:45:31.280
<v Speaker 5>been throwing my money into trying to beat Mario Andretti

0:45:31.360 --> 0:45:33.680
<v Speaker 5>on the race track. I'd be trying to beat my

0:45:33.760 --> 0:45:37.200
<v Speaker 5>way to Monaco to watch races and live up my life.

0:45:37.480 --> 0:45:39.880
<v Speaker 5>The life because they can never get enough, these guys.

0:45:39.960 --> 0:45:41.719
<v Speaker 5>They're always like, let me go a little bigger. Yeah,

0:45:41.760 --> 0:45:43.600
<v Speaker 5>let me get a barge and go into New York.

0:45:43.680 --> 0:45:46.120
<v Speaker 3>Harbhere. I'm like, bro, you have already crossed the line.

0:45:46.239 --> 0:45:48.960
<v Speaker 4>But you could have enough money to live comfortably for

0:45:49.040 --> 0:45:51.520
<v Speaker 4>the rest of your life and just disappeared.

0:45:51.400 --> 0:45:52.880
<v Speaker 3>Into double digit millions.

0:45:53.200 --> 0:45:56.720
<v Speaker 5>You can live so well around the world, know exactly,

0:45:57.239 --> 0:45:59.440
<v Speaker 5>especially you're not planning to pay taxes, and you can

0:45:59.480 --> 0:46:02.279
<v Speaker 5>actually invest in some legitimate business. Do you have the

0:46:02.360 --> 0:46:05.320
<v Speaker 5>half of the talent or your partner does. But no,

0:46:05.520 --> 0:46:07.279
<v Speaker 5>they're always like, let me go a little bigger. I

0:46:07.360 --> 0:46:09.560
<v Speaker 5>know this one smuggler he got a hundred million and

0:46:09.640 --> 0:46:12.440
<v Speaker 5>also another competing with people that they really should.

0:46:12.200 --> 0:46:12.720
<v Speaker 3>Not be competing.

0:46:12.840 --> 0:46:15.839
<v Speaker 4>That is also my takeaway why they don't know when

0:46:15.920 --> 0:46:18.400
<v Speaker 4>to stop right and so know how to be happy,

0:46:18.760 --> 0:46:21.120
<v Speaker 4>and then they never wind up being able to enjoy

0:46:21.160 --> 0:46:25.440
<v Speaker 4>it because they either get crazy paranoid, or they're you know,

0:46:25.520 --> 0:46:27.480
<v Speaker 4>they lose it all or whatever it is. I mean,

0:46:27.560 --> 0:46:29.160
<v Speaker 4>these are the stories that we tell. Maybe there are

0:46:29.280 --> 0:46:31.520
<v Speaker 4>those out there who really pull it off as I

0:46:31.640 --> 0:46:31.920
<v Speaker 4>enjoy it.

0:46:32.040 --> 0:46:35.320
<v Speaker 5>I know some people who are in the high stakes

0:46:35.360 --> 0:46:38.640
<v Speaker 5>international pot smuggling business and they all have like lots

0:46:38.680 --> 0:46:41.120
<v Speaker 5>of homes around the world and managed to do it well.

0:46:41.200 --> 0:46:43.920
<v Speaker 5>And I myself managed to get in and out of

0:46:43.960 --> 0:46:46.520
<v Speaker 5>crime without having to do anytime, So like, it can

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<v Speaker 5>be done as long as you set your sights on

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<v Speaker 5>the horizon and not on some other dude.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, good, good advice. You know what I would like

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<v Speaker 4>as a talk bag?

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<v Speaker 3>Hell yeah, oh my god, super.

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<v Speaker 4>I love g.

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<v Speaker 6>Hi, Saron and Elizabeth Blake.

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<v Speaker 5>Here.

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<v Speaker 6>I was just listening to your dolphins on LSD episode

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<v Speaker 6>that I wanted to let you know because you said

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<v Speaker 6>you haven't heard anything lately about using AI to decode

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<v Speaker 6>animal language, but there is a program out there. It's

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<v Speaker 6>called Project SETI. That's c E t I. I guess

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<v Speaker 6>a take on SETI. Yes, and they are using AI

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<v Speaker 6>to decode sperm whale code, which is amazing, and they're

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<v Speaker 6>actually learning quite a few things. So I follow them

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<v Speaker 6>on LinkedIn. It's super cool.

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<v Speaker 4>That's awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you for that. You just made me so happy.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm one hundred per see if they have anywhere else

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<v Speaker 5>because I'm not on LinkedIn, but I will co check.

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe I can just find a normal website SETTI CTI.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he love it. Thanks for that.

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<v Speaker 3>That's dope.

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