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Speaker 1: the fan. Welcome to Unsanctioned Thursdays ter Wrestling with Friday.
Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to Unsanctioned Thursdays with your host
Speaker 2: Jeff Die and Freddie Brands Junior. Let's start the show.
Speaker 2: No electric guitar for you guys today. We ran out
Speaker 2: of money in the budget, so it's just a little
Speaker 2: electric guitar. Yeah, the structure, I'll pay for that.
Speaker 3: I'll pay for that a.
Speaker 2: Little bit, all right, sweet, thanks. Unsanctioned Thursdays. Unsanctioned. We're
Speaker 2: a little looser. We got the loose lips on this one,
Speaker 2: and we're gonna talk about what everybody wants to talk about,
Speaker 2: which is CM punk. I don't know if I'm gonna
Speaker 2: have the same take on this as everybody. Maybe maybe
Speaker 2: a do, but I wasn't that hyped. I was more
Speaker 2: confused because it's the opposite of a straight edge punk.
Speaker 2: He fired Homeboy on his wedding day, and now you're
Speaker 2: you're back at the company that you tried to that
Speaker 2: you hoped would fail, that you wished would fail, And
Speaker 2: that's so not straight edge punk at all. So I
Speaker 2: don't know what the storyline for him. Can It can't
Speaker 2: be I'm going to go after the championship. That's stupid,
Speaker 2: like you're going after a championship from a company you
Speaker 2: wanted to bury. So I think the only story they
Speaker 2: can go through, and maybe you agree, is the corporate
Speaker 2: So now the CM stands for corporate man punk and
Speaker 2: that then he has to be the sellout that it
Speaker 2: looks like he is. I mean, even Caleb Braxton, who
Speaker 2: just does like like reporter work for them, was like, oh,
Speaker 2: I guess the grass is greener on this side and
Speaker 2: directed a right at him. If she's not fearful and
Speaker 2: she's willing to say stuff like that, then anybody's gonna
Speaker 2: say stuff. I remember Ryan Emma tweeting and getting banned
Speaker 2: from Collision because he was like, yo, that was soft.
Speaker 2: So there can't be any sensitivity from him. There can't
Speaker 2: be any ego from him because at WWE, you are
Speaker 2: another name on the roster. It's Roman Reigns and the roster,
Speaker 2: and there have been different stars that have come up.
Speaker 2: But I don't know how this works unless he does
Speaker 2: the old school corporate storyline where he's in cahoots with
Speaker 2: the company and does the whole I didn't sell out,
Speaker 2: I bought in. That's what Seth Rolin said, and that's
Speaker 2: what the Rock said before him when he became the
Speaker 2: corporate Champion, in different words but the same message. So
Speaker 2: I don't know, Jeff, I mean, you tell me. We
Speaker 2: can talk about you know, and follow up on what
Speaker 2: we said on the other podcast, or we can just
Speaker 2: kind of riff on this, whatever you want to do.
Speaker 3: I think it'd be a cool storyline if CM punk
Speaker 3: poisons WWE. What if they just play into him being
Speaker 3: a backstage a locker room sword as Seth Rawlins called.
Speaker 3: What if they what if that is the story make
Speaker 3: a bunch of fake melee's backstage like they did in
Speaker 3: AE w AW had real fights. So what if we
Speaker 3: pretend that Phil is doing all this?
Speaker 2: Oh what if Dwight the Dwight Schultz Japan storyline when
Speaker 2: he went to Japan and it was the fake reporter
Speaker 2: that he knocked out like the real way that he
Speaker 2: talked up Draum it all up.
Speaker 3: Make it look like he's causing all this backstage heat
Speaker 3: in him. And the problem is we already know Dave
Speaker 3: Meltzer as much as he is a great part of
Speaker 3: the wrestling community. He really does kill the whole ka.
Speaker 3: He really like reveals what is real? What is it?
Speaker 3: I knew within thirty seconds or probably thirty minutes this
Speaker 3: seth Rawlins wasn't really as upset about CM punk coming
Speaker 3: back as he was letting on it's a shoot.
Speaker 2: So how did you know that? How did you?
Speaker 3: Because Dave Meltzer, That's that's the problem is that Dave
Speaker 3: Meltzer's so plugged in he knows exactly like he knew
Speaker 3: that Drew McIntyre actually was upset, not necessarily about seampunk,
Speaker 3: but that he was actually just kind of upset that night.
Speaker 3: He was upset. He slammed his locker, he went home
Speaker 3: in his ring gear. He was throwing things around a
Speaker 3: little bit and huffing and puffing, and we knew that
Speaker 3: he was actually upset. We didn't know what he was
Speaker 3: actually upset about. That wasn't a shoot, however, the seth
Speaker 3: Rawlins was a shoot, and he's really hamming it up
Speaker 3: like he's mad. Here's how you know is fake Michael
Speaker 3: Cole's holding him back.
Speaker 2: I mean that was Yeah, that was weird, and that's
Speaker 2: what kind of sucks is all the interviews that Rollins
Speaker 2: had given made it feel real, right, like I'm glad
Speaker 2: he's gone, that guy's a cancer, this and that. Like
Speaker 2: saying all that stuff on the air. It made it
Speaker 2: feel real. So that's a shame if if Meltzer figured
Speaker 2: out that it was fake, because then that means there,
Speaker 2: that means the storyline is going to be He's going
Speaker 2: to go after the World Heavyweight Championship sets title, and
Speaker 2: I don't care about that story. Yeah, I don't care
Speaker 2: about that story. And if it was real, Seth would
Speaker 2: never give him that shine, he would never give him
Speaker 2: that match. If that's how you know, if they wrestle,
Speaker 2: then it was all bullshit and every interview he gave
Speaker 2: was fake. And I really hope that's not the case.
Speaker 2: They would have just kept them separated.
Speaker 3: The ww's big enough that you're not sharing too much
Speaker 3: of a space with each other. You can avoid people
Speaker 3: you don't. Oh, they do it all the time. They
Speaker 3: do it all the time. What I will say is
Speaker 3: the positive of cmpunk coming back really shows the Vince
Speaker 3: is gone, doesn't it. It really proves that that time
Speaker 3: so much.
Speaker 2: Tress on Punk when I worked there, Man, he was
Speaker 2: like he doesn't look like he can kick anybody's ass.
Speaker 2: Why we're pushing this guy like he was so not
Speaker 2: a guy at it.
Speaker 3: It shows that Vince is not creative anymore, which is
Speaker 3: also a nice little green light to maybe some people
Speaker 3: coming over for other places, like Sasha Banks. You know,
Speaker 3: Ricky Starks has a great relationship with with Cliff Compunk,
Speaker 3: so you know, you could see a lot of that.
Speaker 3: I could see that this this is just a good
Speaker 3: sign that Vince is not proof that Vince is not
Speaker 3: creative anymore. How about this though? What if this is?
Speaker 3: This is such an unsanctioned Thursday idea for what wouldn't
Speaker 3: it be great if the big reveal over at ae
Speaker 3: W that the Devil was seeing Punk, like what if
Speaker 3: he was? And the entire time that he was gone,
Speaker 3: they were just kind of plotting this storyline having a
Speaker 3: guy wear the devil mask, acting like, you know, just
Speaker 3: until they could get Punk back, and then they surprise
Speaker 3: all the wrestlers and they surprise all the fans that
Speaker 3: it's actually CM Punk under the Devil mask. That would
Speaker 3: have been the hugest, funniest, silliest thing ever.
Speaker 2: I would have loved, loved, loved it. But it tells
Speaker 2: their story by signing with w W either like, oh
Speaker 2: well no, no, I meant if I meant if he
Speaker 2: if he didn't sound out to be a feud of
Speaker 2: just like, that would have been the big revealed dude.
Speaker 3: People would have lost their minds.
Speaker 2: I felt bad for aew on Saturday. Man, they must
Speaker 2: have just been buried with that pay per view and
Speaker 2: with Punk debuting there and then they just have Collision
Speaker 2: on It must have been their last number ever it is.
Speaker 2: I still watched Miro Russell Daniel Garcia, though I watched
Speaker 2: all of it, you know, I was like, yeah, that's
Speaker 2: a good ass match.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: It was the first time Garcia did the dance thing
Speaker 2: where I liked it because he was like doing it
Speaker 2: de Lana.
Speaker 3: I got that the punk stuff is tricky. It is, dude,
Speaker 3: I'm not a punk guy. I've never been a punk guy.
Speaker 3: That doesn't mean I'm a hater necessarily. I mean sometimes
Speaker 3: at times I guess I am. But what I will
Speaker 3: say is that he I am here for the drama.
Speaker 3: I love that kind of stuff. So for that reason,
Speaker 3: I'm glad he's back. I'm glad what's happening. I think
Speaker 3: I love a little shakeup. So this this is it's
Speaker 3: exciting for me in that way.
Speaker 2: It's tricky. I hope they can make it work. They
Speaker 2: couldn't make it work in aew because his body couldn't
Speaker 2: stay healthy, so the storylines were getting cut short. When
Speaker 2: his body was healthy, the storylines were good, like with MJF.
Speaker 2: So I hope that he doesn't work too much. It's
Speaker 2: going to be unfortunate for someone or multiple someone's TV
Speaker 2: time because they're going to lose a lot while he's there,
Speaker 2: so there'll be some frustrated talent. But Cmpunk is Cempunk
Speaker 2: and he commands a lot of attention, so I hope
Speaker 2: they have a story for him. I really hope it's
Speaker 2: not I want the World Heavyweight championship that Seth has
Speaker 2: because that just buries all the interviews that Seth ever did,
Speaker 2: But that probably the way it's gonna go. I wouldn't
Speaker 2: last Punk, though, I guess the moment he does, though
Speaker 2: you kind of know it's fraudulent, So I don't know.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: I hope that they try something different, but you never
Speaker 2: you never know. Man Hunter's been doing a good job.
Speaker 2: I'll give him the benefit of the doubt unless it's stinky.
Speaker 2: I'll call it when I see it. Any closing thoughts
Speaker 2: you want to say before we get out of here, sir.
Speaker 3: Well, I will say that Big Bill over at ae
Speaker 3: W with your boy Ricky Starks, Yeah, is bag baby.
Speaker 3: I love Big Big Fan, and I wish that Ricky
Speaker 3: Starks would work on his improv a little bit, because
Speaker 3: anytime Ricky Starks would try to pop in a quick
Speaker 3: line after Big Bill, then it would kind of like it,
Speaker 3: it didn't work, and then he would get back to
Speaker 3: the stuff that was scripted and it was great.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Anyways, he's money when it's scripted. When he's had
Speaker 2: time to think about it, he can do some good stuff. Man,
Speaker 2: He's hired to look out for the luff and they
Speaker 2: need an improv specialist to help teach them.
Speaker 3: Oh something like that, because it was it seems like
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think of the example so I don't
Speaker 3: just sound like a crazy person. Big Bill named all
Speaker 3: the bulls. He was saying, like, listen, you think you're
Speaker 3: blah blah blah. But I don't see Dennis rob Man.
Speaker 3: I don't see Tony kok Coach. I don't see Bill Wellington.
Speaker 3: I don't see and he names all these things. He
Speaker 3: goes because you aren't any of those guys. You're the
Speaker 3: guys who get the bubblegum ra ed for Michael Jordan
Speaker 3: when it's pregame or you know. He does this great
Speaker 3: kind of a basketball analogy, and I think Ricky Starks
Speaker 3: thought would be funny. He goes, I don't know any
Speaker 3: of those guys because I don't watch sports, but you.
Speaker 2: Can't ever reject the premise. Yeah, first rule of improv.
Speaker 2: You can't ever reject the premise. Even if you don't know,
Speaker 2: you have to know.
Speaker 3: Then he goes, and he goes and I know they're
Speaker 3: all pretty good, and you're like, what, like, what do
Speaker 3: you know? Those are the secondary guys to Jordan Like
Speaker 3: so he kind of like by not knowing the sport,
Speaker 3: then watched the joke.
Speaker 2: But improv's hard, dude, it profs hard. That's why that
Speaker 2: girl Flow makes so much money because he was one
Speaker 2: of the best. We'll end on Flow because that's a
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