WEBVTT - Our Thoughts on CM Punk Back at WWE

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<v Speaker 1>Ladies and gentlemen, Are you ready, It's about to hit

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<v Speaker 1>the fan. Welcome to Unsanctioned Thursdays ter Wrestling with Friday.

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<v Speaker 2>Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to Unsanctioned Thursdays with your host

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff Die and Freddie Brands Junior. Let's start the show.

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<v Speaker 2>No electric guitar for you guys today. We ran out

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<v Speaker 2>of money in the budget, so it's just a little

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<v Speaker 2>electric guitar. Yeah, the structure, I'll pay for that.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll pay for that a.

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<v Speaker 2>Little bit, all right, sweet, thanks. Unsanctioned Thursdays. Unsanctioned. We're

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<v Speaker 2>a little looser. We got the loose lips on this one,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're gonna talk about what everybody wants to talk about,

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<v Speaker 2>which is CM punk. I don't know if I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>have the same take on this as everybody. Maybe maybe

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<v Speaker 2>a do, but I wasn't that hyped. I was more

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<v Speaker 2>confused because it's the opposite of a straight edge punk.

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<v Speaker 2>He fired Homeboy on his wedding day, and now you're

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<v Speaker 2>you're back at the company that you tried to that

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<v Speaker 2>you hoped would fail, that you wished would fail, And

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<v Speaker 2>that's so not straight edge punk at all. So I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what the storyline for him. Can It can't

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<v Speaker 2>be I'm going to go after the championship. That's stupid,

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<v Speaker 2>like you're going after a championship from a company you

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to bury. So I think the only story they

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<v Speaker 2>can go through, and maybe you agree, is the corporate

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<v Speaker 2>So now the CM stands for corporate man punk and

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<v Speaker 2>that then he has to be the sellout that it

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<v Speaker 2>looks like he is. I mean, even Caleb Braxton, who

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<v Speaker 2>just does like like reporter work for them, was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess the grass is greener on this side and

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<v Speaker 2>directed a right at him. If she's not fearful and

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<v Speaker 2>she's willing to say stuff like that, then anybody's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>say stuff. I remember Ryan Emma tweeting and getting banned

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<v Speaker 2>from Collision because he was like, yo, that was soft.

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<v Speaker 2>So there can't be any sensitivity from him. There can't

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<v Speaker 2>be any ego from him because at WWE, you are

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<v Speaker 2>another name on the roster. It's Roman Reigns and the roster,

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<v Speaker 2>and there have been different stars that have come up.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't know how this works unless he does

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<v Speaker 2>the old school corporate storyline where he's in cahoots with

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<v Speaker 2>the company and does the whole I didn't sell out,

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<v Speaker 2>I bought in. That's what Seth Rolin said, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>what the Rock said before him when he became the

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<v Speaker 2>corporate Champion, in different words but the same message. So

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, Jeff, I mean, you tell me. We

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<v Speaker 2>can talk about you know, and follow up on what

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<v Speaker 2>we said on the other podcast, or we can just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of riff on this, whatever you want to do.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it'd be a cool storyline if CM punk

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<v Speaker 3>poisons WWE. What if they just play into him being

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<v Speaker 3>a backstage a locker room sword as Seth Rawlins called.

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<v Speaker 3>What if they what if that is the story make

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<v Speaker 3>a bunch of fake melee's backstage like they did in

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<v Speaker 3>AE w AW had real fights. So what if we

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<v Speaker 3>pretend that Phil is doing all this?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh what if Dwight the Dwight Schultz Japan storyline when

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<v Speaker 2>he went to Japan and it was the fake reporter

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<v Speaker 2>that he knocked out like the real way that he

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<v Speaker 2>talked up Draum it all up.

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<v Speaker 3>Make it look like he's causing all this backstage heat

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<v Speaker 3>in him. And the problem is we already know Dave

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<v Speaker 3>Meltzer as much as he is a great part of

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<v Speaker 3>the wrestling community. He really does kill the whole ka.

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<v Speaker 3>He really like reveals what is real? What is it?

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<v Speaker 3>I knew within thirty seconds or probably thirty minutes this

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<v Speaker 3>seth Rawlins wasn't really as upset about CM punk coming

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<v Speaker 3>back as he was letting on it's a shoot.

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<v Speaker 2>So how did you know that? How did you?

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<v Speaker 3>Because Dave Meltzer, That's that's the problem is that Dave

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<v Speaker 3>Meltzer's so plugged in he knows exactly like he knew

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<v Speaker 3>that Drew McIntyre actually was upset, not necessarily about seampunk,

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<v Speaker 3>but that he was actually just kind of upset that night.

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<v Speaker 3>He was upset. He slammed his locker, he went home

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<v Speaker 3>in his ring gear. He was throwing things around a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit and huffing and puffing, and we knew that

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<v Speaker 3>he was actually upset. We didn't know what he was

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<v Speaker 3>actually upset about. That wasn't a shoot, however, the seth

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<v Speaker 3>Rawlins was a shoot, and he's really hamming it up

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<v Speaker 3>like he's mad. Here's how you know is fake Michael

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<v Speaker 3>Cole's holding him back.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that was Yeah, that was weird, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>what kind of sucks is all the interviews that Rollins

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<v Speaker 2>had given made it feel real, right, like I'm glad

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<v Speaker 2>he's gone, that guy's a cancer, this and that. Like

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<v Speaker 2>saying all that stuff on the air. It made it

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<v Speaker 2>feel real. So that's a shame if if Meltzer figured

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<v Speaker 2>out that it was fake, because then that means there,

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<v Speaker 2>that means the storyline is going to be He's going

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<v Speaker 2>to go after the World Heavyweight Championship sets title, and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care about that story. Yeah, I don't care

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<v Speaker 2>about that story. And if it was real, Seth would

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<v Speaker 2>never give him that shine, he would never give him

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<v Speaker 2>that match. If that's how you know, if they wrestle,

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<v Speaker 2>then it was all bullshit and every interview he gave

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<v Speaker 2>was fake. And I really hope that's not the case.

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<v Speaker 2>They would have just kept them separated.

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<v Speaker 3>The ww's big enough that you're not sharing too much

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<v Speaker 3>of a space with each other. You can avoid people

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<v Speaker 3>you don't. Oh, they do it all the time. They

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<v Speaker 3>do it all the time. What I will say is

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<v Speaker 3>the positive of cmpunk coming back really shows the Vince

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<v Speaker 3>is gone, doesn't it. It really proves that that time

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<v Speaker 3>so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Tress on Punk when I worked there, Man, he was

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<v Speaker 2>like he doesn't look like he can kick anybody's ass.

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<v Speaker 2>Why we're pushing this guy like he was so not

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<v Speaker 2>a guy at it.

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<v Speaker 3>It shows that Vince is not creative anymore, which is

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<v Speaker 3>also a nice little green light to maybe some people

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<v Speaker 3>coming over for other places, like Sasha Banks. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>Ricky Starks has a great relationship with with Cliff Compunk,

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<v Speaker 3>so you know, you could see a lot of that.

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<v Speaker 3>I could see that this this is just a good

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<v Speaker 3>sign that Vince is not proof that Vince is not

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<v Speaker 3>creative anymore. How about this though? What if this is?

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<v Speaker 3>This is such an unsanctioned Thursday idea for what wouldn't

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<v Speaker 3>it be great if the big reveal over at ae

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<v Speaker 3>W that the Devil was seeing Punk, like what if

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<v Speaker 3>he was? And the entire time that he was gone,

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<v Speaker 3>they were just kind of plotting this storyline having a

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<v Speaker 3>guy wear the devil mask, acting like, you know, just

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<v Speaker 3>until they could get Punk back, and then they surprise

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<v Speaker 3>all the wrestlers and they surprise all the fans that

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<v Speaker 3>it's actually CM Punk under the Devil mask. That would

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<v Speaker 3>have been the hugest, funniest, silliest thing ever.

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<v Speaker 2>I would have loved, loved, loved it. But it tells

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<v Speaker 2>their story by signing with w W either like, oh

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<v Speaker 2>well no, no, I meant if I meant if he

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<v Speaker 2>if he didn't sound out to be a feud of

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<v Speaker 2>just like, that would have been the big revealed dude.

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<v Speaker 3>People would have lost their minds.

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<v Speaker 2>I felt bad for aew on Saturday. Man, they must

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<v Speaker 2>have just been buried with that pay per view and

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<v Speaker 2>with Punk debuting there and then they just have Collision

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<v Speaker 2>on It must have been their last number ever it is.

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<v Speaker 2>I still watched Miro Russell Daniel Garcia, though I watched

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<v Speaker 2>all of it, you know, I was like, yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 2>a good ass match.

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<v Speaker 3>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>It was the first time Garcia did the dance thing

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<v Speaker 2>where I liked it because he was like doing it

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<v Speaker 2>de Lana.

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<v Speaker 3>I got that the punk stuff is tricky. It is, dude,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not a punk guy. I've never been a punk guy.

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<v Speaker 3>That doesn't mean I'm a hater necessarily. I mean sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>at times I guess I am. But what I will

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<v Speaker 3>say is that he I am here for the drama.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that kind of stuff. So for that reason,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm glad he's back. I'm glad what's happening. I think

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<v Speaker 3>I love a little shakeup. So this this is it's

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<v Speaker 3>exciting for me in that way.

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<v Speaker 2>It's tricky. I hope they can make it work. They

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't make it work in aew because his body couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>stay healthy, so the storylines were getting cut short. When

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<v Speaker 2>his body was healthy, the storylines were good, like with MJF.

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<v Speaker 2>So I hope that he doesn't work too much. It's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be unfortunate for someone or multiple someone's TV

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<v Speaker 2>time because they're going to lose a lot while he's there,

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<v Speaker 2>so there'll be some frustrated talent. But Cmpunk is Cempunk

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<v Speaker 2>and he commands a lot of attention, so I hope

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<v Speaker 2>they have a story for him. I really hope it's

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<v Speaker 2>not I want the World Heavyweight championship that Seth has

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<v Speaker 2>because that just buries all the interviews that Seth ever did,

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<v Speaker 2>But that probably the way it's gonna go. I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>last Punk, though, I guess the moment he does, though

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<v Speaker 2>you kind of know it's fraudulent, So I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope that they try something different, but you never

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<v Speaker 2>you never know. Man Hunter's been doing a good job.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll give him the benefit of the doubt unless it's stinky.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll call it when I see it. Any closing thoughts

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<v Speaker 2>you want to say before we get out of here, sir.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I will say that Big Bill over at ae

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<v Speaker 3>W with your boy Ricky Starks, Yeah, is bag baby.

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<v Speaker 3>I love Big Big Fan, and I wish that Ricky

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<v Speaker 3>Starks would work on his improv a little bit, because

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<v Speaker 3>anytime Ricky Starks would try to pop in a quick

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<v Speaker 3>line after Big Bill, then it would kind of like it,

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<v Speaker 3>it didn't work, and then he would get back to

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<v Speaker 3>the stuff that was scripted and it was great.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Anyways, he's money when it's scripted. When he's had

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<v Speaker 2>time to think about it, he can do some good stuff. Man,

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<v Speaker 2>He's hired to look out for the luff and they

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<v Speaker 2>need an improv specialist to help teach them.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh something like that, because it was it seems like

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<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to think of the example so I don't

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<v Speaker 3>just sound like a crazy person. Big Bill named all

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<v Speaker 3>the bulls. He was saying, like, listen, you think you're

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<v Speaker 3>blah blah blah. But I don't see Dennis rob Man.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't see Tony kok Coach. I don't see Bill Wellington.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't see and he names all these things. He

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<v Speaker 3>goes because you aren't any of those guys. You're the

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<v Speaker 3>guys who get the bubblegum ra ed for Michael Jordan

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<v Speaker 3>when it's pregame or you know. He does this great

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<v Speaker 3>kind of a basketball analogy, and I think Ricky Starks

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<v Speaker 3>thought would be funny. He goes, I don't know any

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<v Speaker 3>of those guys because I don't watch sports, but you.

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<v Speaker 2>Can't ever reject the premise. Yeah, first rule of improv.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't ever reject the premise. Even if you don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>you have to know.

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<v Speaker 3>Then he goes, and he goes and I know they're

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<v Speaker 3>all pretty good, and you're like, what, like, what do

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<v Speaker 3>you know? Those are the secondary guys to Jordan Like

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<v Speaker 3>so he kind of like by not knowing the sport,

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<v Speaker 3>then watched the joke.

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<v Speaker 2>But improv's hard, dude, it profs hard. That's why that

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<v Speaker 2>girl Flow makes so much money because he was one

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<v Speaker 2>of the best. We'll end on Flow because that's a

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