1 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, Are you ready, It's about to hit 2 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: the fan. Welcome to Unsanctioned Thursdays ter Wrestling with Friday. 3 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to Unsanctioned Thursdays with your host 4 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 2: Jeff Die and Freddie Brands Junior. Let's start the show. 5 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 2: No electric guitar for you guys today. We ran out 6 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 2: of money in the budget, so it's just a little 7 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 2: electric guitar. Yeah, the structure, I'll pay for that. 8 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 3: I'll pay for that a. 9 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 2: Little bit, all right, sweet, thanks. Unsanctioned Thursdays. Unsanctioned. We're 10 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 2: a little looser. We got the loose lips on this one, 11 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 2: and we're gonna talk about what everybody wants to talk about, 12 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 2: which is CM punk. I don't know if I'm gonna 13 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 2: have the same take on this as everybody. Maybe maybe 14 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 2: a do, but I wasn't that hyped. I was more 15 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 2: confused because it's the opposite of a straight edge punk. 16 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:16,119 Speaker 2: He fired Homeboy on his wedding day, and now you're 17 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 2: you're back at the company that you tried to that 18 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 2: you hoped would fail, that you wished would fail, And 19 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 2: that's so not straight edge punk at all. So I 20 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 2: don't know what the storyline for him. Can It can't 21 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 2: be I'm going to go after the championship. That's stupid, 22 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 2: like you're going after a championship from a company you 23 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 2: wanted to bury. So I think the only story they 24 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 2: can go through, and maybe you agree, is the corporate 25 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 2: So now the CM stands for corporate man punk and 26 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 2: that then he has to be the sellout that it 27 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 2: looks like he is. I mean, even Caleb Braxton, who 28 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 2: just does like like reporter work for them, was like, oh, 29 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 2: I guess the grass is greener on this side and 30 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 2: directed a right at him. If she's not fearful and 31 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 2: she's willing to say stuff like that, then anybody's gonna 32 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 2: say stuff. I remember Ryan Emma tweeting and getting banned 33 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 2: from Collision because he was like, yo, that was soft. 34 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 2: So there can't be any sensitivity from him. There can't 35 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 2: be any ego from him because at WWE, you are 36 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 2: another name on the roster. It's Roman Reigns and the roster, 37 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 2: and there have been different stars that have come up. 38 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 2: But I don't know how this works unless he does 39 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 2: the old school corporate storyline where he's in cahoots with 40 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 2: the company and does the whole I didn't sell out, 41 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 2: I bought in. That's what Seth Rolin said, and that's 42 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 2: what the Rock said before him when he became the 43 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 2: corporate Champion, in different words but the same message. So 44 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 2: I don't know, Jeff, I mean, you tell me. We 45 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 2: can talk about you know, and follow up on what 46 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 2: we said on the other podcast, or we can just 47 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 2: kind of riff on this, whatever you want to do. 48 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 3: I think it'd be a cool storyline if CM punk 49 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:08,519 Speaker 3: poisons WWE. What if they just play into him being 50 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:14,119 Speaker 3: a backstage a locker room sword as Seth Rawlins called. 51 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 3: What if they what if that is the story make 52 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 3: a bunch of fake melee's backstage like they did in 53 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 3: AE w AW had real fights. So what if we 54 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 3: pretend that Phil is doing all this? 55 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 2: Oh what if Dwight the Dwight Schultz Japan storyline when 56 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 2: he went to Japan and it was the fake reporter 57 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 2: that he knocked out like the real way that he 58 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 2: talked up Draum it all up. 59 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 3: Make it look like he's causing all this backstage heat 60 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 3: in him. And the problem is we already know Dave 61 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 3: Meltzer as much as he is a great part of 62 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 3: the wrestling community. He really does kill the whole ka. 63 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 3: He really like reveals what is real? What is it? 64 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 3: I knew within thirty seconds or probably thirty minutes this 65 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 3: seth Rawlins wasn't really as upset about CM punk coming 66 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 3: back as he was letting on it's a shoot. 67 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 2: So how did you know that? How did you? 68 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 3: Because Dave Meltzer, That's that's the problem is that Dave 69 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 3: Meltzer's so plugged in he knows exactly like he knew 70 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 3: that Drew McIntyre actually was upset, not necessarily about seampunk, 71 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 3: but that he was actually just kind of upset that night. 72 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 3: He was upset. He slammed his locker, he went home 73 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 3: in his ring gear. He was throwing things around a 74 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 3: little bit and huffing and puffing, and we knew that 75 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 3: he was actually upset. We didn't know what he was 76 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 3: actually upset about. That wasn't a shoot, however, the seth 77 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 3: Rawlins was a shoot, and he's really hamming it up 78 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 3: like he's mad. Here's how you know is fake Michael 79 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 3: Cole's holding him back. 80 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 2: I mean that was Yeah, that was weird, and that's 81 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 2: what kind of sucks is all the interviews that Rollins 82 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 2: had given made it feel real, right, like I'm glad 83 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 2: he's gone, that guy's a cancer, this and that. Like 84 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 2: saying all that stuff on the air. It made it 85 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 2: feel real. So that's a shame if if Meltzer figured 86 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 2: out that it was fake, because then that means there, 87 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 2: that means the storyline is going to be He's going 88 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 2: to go after the World Heavyweight Championship sets title, and 89 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 2: I don't care about that story. Yeah, I don't care 90 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 2: about that story. And if it was real, Seth would 91 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 2: never give him that shine, he would never give him 92 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 2: that match. If that's how you know, if they wrestle, 93 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 2: then it was all bullshit and every interview he gave 94 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 2: was fake. And I really hope that's not the case. 95 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 2: They would have just kept them separated. 96 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 3: The ww's big enough that you're not sharing too much 97 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 3: of a space with each other. You can avoid people 98 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 3: you don't. Oh, they do it all the time. They 99 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 3: do it all the time. What I will say is 100 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 3: the positive of cmpunk coming back really shows the Vince 101 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 3: is gone, doesn't it. It really proves that that time 102 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 3: so much. 103 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 2: Tress on Punk when I worked there, Man, he was 104 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 2: like he doesn't look like he can kick anybody's ass. 105 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 2: Why we're pushing this guy like he was so not 106 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 2: a guy at it. 107 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 3: It shows that Vince is not creative anymore, which is 108 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 3: also a nice little green light to maybe some people 109 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 3: coming over for other places, like Sasha Banks. You know, 110 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 3: Ricky Starks has a great relationship with with Cliff Compunk, 111 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 3: so you know, you could see a lot of that. 112 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 3: I could see that this this is just a good 113 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 3: sign that Vince is not proof that Vince is not 114 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 3: creative anymore. How about this though? What if this is? 115 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 3: This is such an unsanctioned Thursday idea for what wouldn't 116 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 3: it be great if the big reveal over at ae 117 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 3: W that the Devil was seeing Punk, like what if 118 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 3: he was? And the entire time that he was gone, 119 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 3: they were just kind of plotting this storyline having a 120 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 3: guy wear the devil mask, acting like, you know, just 121 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,799 Speaker 3: until they could get Punk back, and then they surprise 122 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 3: all the wrestlers and they surprise all the fans that 123 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 3: it's actually CM Punk under the Devil mask. That would 124 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 3: have been the hugest, funniest, silliest thing ever. 125 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 2: I would have loved, loved, loved it. But it tells 126 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 2: their story by signing with w W either like, oh 127 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 2: well no, no, I meant if I meant if he 128 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 2: if he didn't sound out to be a feud of 129 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:07,919 Speaker 2: just like, that would have been the big revealed dude. 130 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 3: People would have lost their minds. 131 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 2: I felt bad for aew on Saturday. Man, they must 132 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 2: have just been buried with that pay per view and 133 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 2: with Punk debuting there and then they just have Collision 134 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 2: on It must have been their last number ever it is. 135 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 2: I still watched Miro Russell Daniel Garcia, though I watched 136 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 2: all of it, you know, I was like, yeah, that's 137 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 2: a good ass match. 138 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 3: Man. 139 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 2: It was the first time Garcia did the dance thing 140 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 2: where I liked it because he was like doing it 141 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 2: de Lana. 142 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:40,239 Speaker 3: I got that the punk stuff is tricky. It is, dude, 143 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 3: I'm not a punk guy. I've never been a punk guy. 144 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 3: That doesn't mean I'm a hater necessarily. I mean sometimes 145 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 3: at times I guess I am. But what I will 146 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 3: say is that he I am here for the drama. 147 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 3: I love that kind of stuff. So for that reason, 148 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 3: I'm glad he's back. I'm glad what's happening. I think 149 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 3: I love a little shakeup. So this this is it's 150 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 3: exciting for me in that way. 151 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 2: It's tricky. I hope they can make it work. They 152 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 2: couldn't make it work in aew because his body couldn't 153 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 2: stay healthy, so the storylines were getting cut short. When 154 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 2: his body was healthy, the storylines were good, like with MJF. 155 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 2: So I hope that he doesn't work too much. It's 156 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 2: going to be unfortunate for someone or multiple someone's TV 157 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 2: time because they're going to lose a lot while he's there, 158 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 2: so there'll be some frustrated talent. But Cmpunk is Cempunk 159 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 2: and he commands a lot of attention, so I hope 160 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 2: they have a story for him. I really hope it's 161 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 2: not I want the World Heavyweight championship that Seth has 162 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 2: because that just buries all the interviews that Seth ever did, 163 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 2: But that probably the way it's gonna go. I wouldn't 164 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 2: last Punk, though, I guess the moment he does, though 165 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 2: you kind of know it's fraudulent, So I don't know. 166 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 3: Man. 167 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 2: I hope that they try something different, but you never 168 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 2: you never know. Man Hunter's been doing a good job. 169 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 2: I'll give him the benefit of the doubt unless it's stinky. 170 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 2: I'll call it when I see it. Any closing thoughts 171 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 2: you want to say before we get out of here, sir. 172 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 3: Well, I will say that Big Bill over at ae 173 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 3: W with your boy Ricky Starks, Yeah, is bag baby. 174 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 3: I love Big Big Fan, and I wish that Ricky 175 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 3: Starks would work on his improv a little bit, because 176 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 3: anytime Ricky Starks would try to pop in a quick 177 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 3: line after Big Bill, then it would kind of like it, 178 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:26,599 Speaker 3: it didn't work, and then he would get back to 179 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 3: the stuff that was scripted and it was great. 180 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. Anyways, he's money when it's scripted. When he's had 181 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 2: time to think about it, he can do some good stuff. Man, 182 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 2: He's hired to look out for the luff and they 183 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 2: need an improv specialist to help teach them. 184 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:40,719 Speaker 3: Oh something like that, because it was it seems like 185 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 3: I'm trying to think of the example so I don't 186 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 3: just sound like a crazy person. Big Bill named all 187 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 3: the bulls. He was saying, like, listen, you think you're 188 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 3: blah blah blah. But I don't see Dennis rob Man. 189 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 3: I don't see Tony kok Coach. I don't see Bill Wellington. 190 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 3: I don't see and he names all these things. He 191 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 3: goes because you aren't any of those guys. You're the 192 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 3: guys who get the bubblegum ra ed for Michael Jordan 193 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 3: when it's pregame or you know. He does this great 194 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 3: kind of a basketball analogy, and I think Ricky Starks 195 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 3: thought would be funny. He goes, I don't know any 196 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 3: of those guys because I don't watch sports, but you. 197 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 2: Can't ever reject the premise. Yeah, first rule of improv. 198 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 2: You can't ever reject the premise. Even if you don't know, 199 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 2: you have to know. 200 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 3: Then he goes, and he goes and I know they're 201 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 3: all pretty good, and you're like, what, like, what do 202 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 3: you know? Those are the secondary guys to Jordan Like 203 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 3: so he kind of like by not knowing the sport, 204 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 3: then watched the joke. 205 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 2: But improv's hard, dude, it profs hard. That's why that 206 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 2: girl Flow makes so much money because he was one 207 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 2: of the best. We'll end on Flow because that's a 208 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 2: great place to end. 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