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Speaker 1: Mets just signed Devin Williams to a three year, fifty

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Speaker 1: million dollar contract. The first thing that comes to everybody's

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Speaker 1: mind is what does this mean? Freedwin Diaz, we will

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Speaker 2: Devin Williams signing.

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Speaker 1: Devin Williams James signed with the Mets three years fifty

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Speaker 1: What are you thinking.

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Speaker 3: Instant reaction in terms of the player.

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Speaker 4: I think I definitely like the player more than maybe

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Speaker 4: what his public perception is right now.

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Speaker 3: The ra was high as a Yankee. It was kind

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Speaker 3: of a disaster season.

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Speaker 4: He allowed to earn run I have it here, I

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Speaker 4: wrote it down here, allowed her to run in five

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Speaker 4: of us for his fourteen appearances of the Yankees last year.

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Speaker 4: I think that put them kind of on a that

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Speaker 4: which sloped from the beginning, but still a really good pitcher,

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Speaker 3: Then the years and the money caught me very off

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the years were shocking.

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Speaker 1: I was truly surprised that Devin Williams won took a

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Speaker 1: three year deal. But then when you see the money,

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Speaker 1: you're like, oh, okay, I mean, I guess he kind

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Speaker 1: of had to. Like Devin Williams coming off of the

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Speaker 1: season that he had. While I think under the hood

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Speaker 1: looked a lot better than what the r numbers, like

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Speaker 1: you said, were three years fifty million, you can't say

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Speaker 1: no to that if you're Devin Williams, no matter who's

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Speaker 2: He would have played for the Colorado Rockies at three

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Speaker 2: for fifty.

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Speaker 4: Definitely not And that's what does make me feel weirried

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Speaker 4: about this trade, despite again liking the signing. What yeah, well,

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Speaker 4: I'll talk more about the players we get through here,

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Speaker 4: but the contract seems like a big commitment to a

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Speaker 4: guy that at at worst is not a good closer,

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Speaker 4: and at best you know there's going to be some

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Speaker 4: erradicalness in production just based on the player archy type here.

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Speaker 2: I mean.

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Speaker 1: Shout out Diana the Queen of Mets Twitter. She put

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Speaker 1: out a funny tweet that I book marked already. She

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Speaker 1: was like Devin Williams and the David Stearns Run Organization

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Speaker 1: one point eight ninet era David Stearns A non David

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Speaker 1: Devin Williams and non David Stearns Run Organization three point

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Speaker 1: four eight. This list address real quick the Edwin Das stuff.

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Speaker 1: Everyone around the league, all the reporters, all the people

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Speaker 1: that are in the know, are saying this has no impact,

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Speaker 1: does not change anything with the Mets still being very

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Speaker 1: interested in Edwin Diaz. And I think we have to

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Speaker 1: anybody and I will say it makes sense, would have

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Speaker 1: is what does this mean for Edwin Diaz? But I

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Speaker 1: like the idea that if we don't get Edwin, which

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Speaker 1: will miss out on him. We do still have what

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Speaker 1: was a dynamite closer his entire career, except for when

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Speaker 4: Yes, exactly, But I do feel better about Devin Williams

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Speaker 4: as the two with Edmund as the one.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, I can't tell you. I'll be happy

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Speaker 1: That, it's very much of what's been seems like all

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Speaker 1: if this is the only move, I don't feel great.

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Speaker 1: I want to see what happens next, because if Devin

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Speaker 1: Williams is our close are going into opening Day, I'm

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Speaker 1: And I'm gonna try and find the Petriello stat about

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Speaker 1: how when Devin Williams left the game, basically the Yankees

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Speaker 1: relievers couldn't stop anybody from scoring. Yeah, and he killed

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Speaker 1: But I won't feel good about it if Devin Williams'

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Speaker 1: closer on April first. No, there's also last year Devin

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Speaker 1: Williams went from the Brewers to the Yankees. The Blue

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Speaker 1: the strike up rate was thirty five percent, that's good.

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Speaker 1: no matter what, there's a better floor in Devin Williams than.

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Speaker 3: The guy that we saw last year.

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Speaker 1: So Williams inherited six runners when he entered the game

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Speaker 1: Williams left ten runners on when departing the next relievers

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's great, So again was a big deal. But

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Speaker 3: I just this is weird.

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Speaker 4: This is now only one of like twelve three year

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Speaker 4: of aav I know that deferrals will kick in to

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Speaker 4: bring this down from fifteen million, probably a little bit lower,

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Speaker 4: It's empty to add the idd As contract on top

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Speaker 4: of this with him saying is that it would still

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Speaker 4: I know it's being reported like that. I would still

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Speaker 2: Yes and no.

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Speaker 1: And the reason I say this is because we know

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Speaker 2: Because I love doing it.

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Speaker 1: That's like that's modern baseball, like love it Chef's Kiss,

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Speaker 1: That's a lot to say, but it works. It has

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Speaker 1: I think this is the plan.

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Speaker 2: I really do.

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Speaker 1: I think that they're still gonna get Edwin Diaz, and

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Speaker 1: they're gonna be like eighth to ninth inning interchangeable. Those

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Speaker 1: and then we just kind of got to get to

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Speaker 1: feeling good. Obviously it's easier than done. But over a season,

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Speaker 4: I came on here so ready to be so excited

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Speaker 4: can pontificate about all the reasons that Devin Williams like

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Speaker 4: better luck next year, but seeing that deal and seeing

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Speaker 2: The deferrals are big though.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so deferrals still bring it down to twelve million

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Speaker 3: I don't know exactly how those are going to work.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how those numbers work.

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Speaker 1: But like in terms of AAV, I'm just we're just

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Speaker 1: gonna talk about AV because we can't talk about luxury

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Speaker 1: tax right now. Taking fifteen million off over those three

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Speaker 1: be five million a year. That puts them right around

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Speaker 1: ten million dollars a year. Like that's what Lesson Tanner

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Speaker 2: It's scary when you look at, you know, Robert Stevenson too.

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Speaker 1: Also the fact that Robert Stevenson also never had the

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Speaker 1: that's it's it's hard when you see Devin Williams really

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Speaker 4: Since I am only talking about it in the context

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Speaker 4: of I'm still assuming my head when Diaz is not back.

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Speaker 1: Honestly, that's how I'm taking these back. That's how I feel.

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Speaker 4: If if I were to tell you a world maybe

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Speaker 4: you can get in my head space here. You know,

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Speaker 4: Edwin Diaz is not back.

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Speaker 3: What do you think of this?

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Speaker 1: Don't love it? That's I kind of said that at

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Speaker 1: He's made moves where I'm like, well, there's gotta be

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Speaker 1: just like sime and trade couldn't be the move. Like

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Speaker 1: the only thing that you do. Simeon does not make

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Speaker 1: from Edwin das Devin Williams, the Mets are a worst team.

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Speaker 4: I just want to be more excited about this. I'm

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Speaker 4: sad I'm not letting myself get this. Well, listen, I'm

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Speaker 3: You seem like you're excited.

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Speaker 1: I think it's just a different vibe right now of

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Speaker 2: Maybe that.

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Speaker 4: But man like, if he's the closer, I just you

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Speaker 4: closes thing, the closer money that. But maybe especially with

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Speaker 1: Maybe because Uncle Steve he got that casino today, maybe

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Speaker 1: be making such boatloads of money. And we saw the

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Speaker 1: reports that came out about is networth now being close

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Speaker 2: Maybe he was just like, go get Devin Williams.

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Speaker 1: It's our eighth and guy, we're gonna pay Edwin Das

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Speaker 2: We're just gonna pay him. We're gonna pay the guys

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 2: Five?

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Speaker 3: You think he's going to get five? Five?

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Speaker 1: Five for the record was what five for one hundred, right,

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Speaker 1: that's what he originally signed and that was the record

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Speaker 1: five for.

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Speaker 2: Like one hundred two. Okay, so he'll probably go five.

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Speaker 1: He'll probably go five for one oh three, like just whatever,

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Speaker 2: I think that's what's gonna happen.

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Speaker 3: My brain went there too when this happened. If like

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Speaker 4: Has to get, Ryan Helsy just got too like I mean,

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Speaker 3: The surprising thing about the.

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Speaker 4: Devin Williams is the no opt out, because there is

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Speaker 4: Here like Devin Williams reverts to being an easy top

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Speaker 4: five closing in baseball, Yes, you wouldn't be knocked one

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Speaker 4: hundred percent, very possible, probably better than fifty percent chance

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Speaker 4: of that happening. Now you're locking yourself into everything I'm

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Speaker 4: saying against. Now you're locking yourself into like eight million

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Speaker 1: It's also like a big player flag moment for David

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Speaker 4: Kind of Yeah, this is one that if the two

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Speaker 1: I mean, we've been two of the biggest Sterns guys

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Speaker 2: Been like, what's going on here.

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Speaker 3: Talked about Devin Williams. Then seeing the money, it totally

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Speaker 1: I mean, couldn't Devin Williams wait the years in the

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Speaker 4: Maybe I guess if we're already get into the lockout

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Speaker 3: I think these guys are.

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Speaker 2: For thinking about that, and front officers too.

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Speaker 4: We're all seeing like the reversal on that because we've

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Speaker 4: some extra years. This also seemed to me like the

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Speaker 4: Luis Everarno deal of I don't want to move out

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Speaker 4: I was like, nice, one year, two year opt out,

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Speaker 4: no risk, Let's have some fun. It's this is strange,

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Speaker 4: This is not a risk of move.

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Speaker 2: No this is this is risk move.

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Speaker 1: This is another guy that Stern's taken back from his

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Speaker 2: The first one did not work out well.

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Speaker 4: It seemed weird because that's the way definitely was let

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Speaker 4: It was kind of like bye bye, steal lads.

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Speaker 2: Let the door hit you on the way out. We

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Speaker 4: I mean, there's also going to be the narrative people

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Speaker 4: kept him in New York again, I don't think fair.

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Speaker 2: He is a bit of a head case. Devid Williams is.

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Speaker 4: He'd he barked at some umpires, but also he got

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Speaker 3: For sure he probably might he might be, definitely could be.

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Speaker 4: I guess Sterens knows him kind of well, yeah, definitely

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Speaker 3: It's for the confidence right there.

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Speaker 3: Strange anomally that happened.

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Speaker 4: Hitter swung on pitches outside the strike zone a good

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Speaker 3: The whiff rate and those went down.

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Speaker 4: The batting average went up, but the slugging percentage, the

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Speaker 3: So that's kind of something that.

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Speaker 4: Just hit it, throwing the bat out there, trying to

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Speaker 4: get through the Yankee infield. It's just he I can't

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Speaker 4: gut over how weird of the season it was, and

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Speaker 4: I can't get over the fact that be guaranteed.

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Speaker 3: In three seasons.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe it just maybe it doesn't matter that much.

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Speaker 2: Maybe this is maybe this.

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Speaker 1: Is us being a little PTSD two of like old Mets, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: But maybe it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you see how important these guys can be

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Speaker 1: Like we don't know where he's actually going with all this.

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Speaker 1: Maybe this is just the insurance if for some reason

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Speaker 2: His asking price.

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Speaker 3: I guess that's true.

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Speaker 4: So we just became the third team in baseball to

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Speaker 4: Diaz signed to at least two to each of them

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Speaker 4: signed a ten million dollars AAV contract. Try and name

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Speaker 4: the other teams, Dodgers. Dodgers are one of them. Any

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Speaker 4: one of these teams shows up here in the contracts.

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Speaker 4: But one of the guys originally was signed as a

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Speaker 4: starting pitchers. I'm not counting him.

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Speaker 2: In this, Okay, Dodgers. How many teams are there?

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Speaker 3: There's one more?

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Speaker 1: Is it going to be the Boston Red Sows?

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Speaker 4: They were the team that was the technicality because they've hicks,

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Speaker 4: But I'm not Countingham's for these fair.

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Speaker 1: What and then so there's still one more team? One

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Speaker 1: more team Alanta Braves, No Toronto Blue Jays, No?

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Speaker 2: Oh, is it? Is it the Orioles.

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Speaker 4: It's the Baltimore Orioles. Just kick just got them both,

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Speaker 4: Ryan Helsey Andrew Kittridge. So this is this is strange.

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Speaker 4: We have three of them, will be the only team

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Speaker 1: We're We're the only team that's where it got an

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Speaker 4: Hopefully that's the case. Maybe just spend just absolutely spent

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Speaker 4: out of our assets. Maybe this, if this is the

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Speaker 4: sign for that, that's great. If this is going to

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Speaker 1: Okay, now to just really give you some crazy hypotheticals. Here,

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Speaker 1: Edwin Diaz one hundred million for five, right, we're just

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Speaker 1: Ed Devin Williams fifty million for the three theoretically fifty

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Speaker 1: fifty million more dollars now towards Pete Alonzo Cody Bellinger?

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Speaker 1: Do you feel better if that money saved by going

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Speaker 3: Possibly that's also the opposite of what you're saying.

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Speaker 4: We're saying this deal. I just I just want to

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Speaker 4: just hit me in the head.

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Speaker 1: So you're not gonna answer mine. You're just gonna throw

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Speaker 4: I think, I think yes, but I also still assume

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Speaker 4: those guys aren't effected.

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Speaker 3: I think the most direct correlation here has to be Edwin.

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Speaker 4: So I'll give you one for this for five for

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Speaker 4: one hundred pretends even the exact same contract. Or maybe

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Speaker 4: we'll give it five for one hundred verus of five

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Speaker 4: for one to twenty. Would you either Edwin or Cody Bellinger?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Wow, ed now knowing that Devin Williams is on

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Speaker 2: the team.

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Speaker 4: Yes, Bellinger a little bit more expensive, same length of

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Speaker 4: a deal for two kind of interesting risk, differently risked players.

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Speaker 2: God, I love Edwin.

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Speaker 4: Give me Edwin, bring it back, bring back boys. I

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Speaker 4: thought that too, But is that stupid? Are we stupid

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Speaker 2: Rob who attached?

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Speaker 3: Are we too attached to Edwin Diaz for this conversation

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Speaker 3: right now?

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Speaker 2: Probably it's probably not really a fair conversation.

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Speaker 1: But also at the same time, we know how important

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Speaker 1: of the game or the last four sometimes with how

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Speaker 1: Edwin's been and when you look around the league, it's

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Speaker 1: almost impossible to find someone that's had the consistency that

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Speaker 1: Edwin Diaz has had since the juice Ball era, Like,

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Speaker 1: he's basically been unhittable since what twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely, But even when all those things were happening,

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Speaker 4: Like everything philosophy, everything movement wise, everything swinging miss and

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Speaker 4: that is the same thing that just happened with Devin Williams.

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Speaker 4: Then he went to ninety six and this year went

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Speaker 4: back to ninety four. So that's also in line with

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Speaker 4: another team make a deal would be like, wow, what

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Speaker 4: a fun risk to take.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and now we're making this deal. We're like, oh,

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Speaker 2: we're taking the risk.

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Speaker 4: You're like kind of like the Dylan Ce's picture contracts, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Pitcher contracts.

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Speaker 1: It's one of those where Uh again, I'll say one

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Speaker 1: more time, Gotta see what the next move is for

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Speaker 1: David Stearns. Like again, this can't be the only one,

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Speaker 1: because then I don't like it if it is the

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Speaker 1: only one.

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Speaker 2: Eh.

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Speaker 1: If this is in addition to Edwin Diaz or in

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Speaker 1: addition to maybe now we're more involved in some other

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Speaker 1: players that we haven't even been thinking.

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Speaker 2: About, that could be good.

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Speaker 1: Okay, great, But if Devin Williams is the closer, and

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Speaker 1: that's kind of like that's our best arm in the

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Speaker 1: bullpen going into the twenty twenty sixth season, don't don't

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Speaker 1: love it, don't love it, No, do not do not

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Speaker 1: love it that much. That being said, And David Stearns,

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Speaker 1: we trust, I trust them. I trust him's gonna get

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Speaker 1: the job done.

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Speaker 2: And still like Devin Williams, like Devin won. Yeah, like

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Speaker 2: Devin Williams.

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Speaker 3: Love Devin Williams.

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Speaker 2: Like the contract scary. It's just it's scary.

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Speaker 1: It's scary when you think the guy that was never

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Speaker 1: gonna leave is gonna possibly leave.

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Speaker 4: Would you push them chips into the table like this,

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Speaker 4: It's like, all right, now you gotta start paying attention,

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Speaker 4: Like you tighten up a little bit, this is like.

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Speaker 1: This is like for gamblers out there, like playing blackjack.

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Speaker 1: You get the you get the split, and then it

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Speaker 1: gives you another eight on top of right. You have

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Speaker 1: to splay a game like this is why we gamble.

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Speaker 1: This is why we play the game. You don't play

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Speaker 1: to just have to stick around the zero. You try

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Speaker 1: and make a big move here.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of also like Texas, hold them.

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Speaker 4: If you're bluffing and you put a big bet, everyone falls,

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Speaker 4: one person stays in and they hit you back.

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Speaker 3: You're like, all right, let's let's play ball.

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Speaker 2: Let's play some ball.

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Speaker 3: This is a play This is a playball move.

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Speaker 2: This is a playball move.

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Speaker 1: James said it it's gonna be a crazy week and

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