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Speaker 7: Let's go dude. Montreal amazing city. Obviously would go there

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Speaker 5: UFC three p. Fifteen. Great to have everybody with us

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Speaker 5: hundred and forty nine of the Anti Caim Florian podcast. Sunday,

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Speaker 5: May fourth, twenty twenty five is the year antikim Florid

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Speaker 5: podcast presented by DraftKings. DraftKings, The Crown is yours. How

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Speaker 5: is your weekend? Kid?

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Speaker 7: I had a great weekend, man, I was in the

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Speaker 7: My eyes are like bloodshot red from all the fumes

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Speaker 7: But yeah, so I'm exhausted, but I'm looking forward to

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Speaker 5: Yeah wow, yeah, So I actually am you know, you

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Speaker 5: Did you watch any boxing? What did you ingest this weekend?

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Speaker 5: What a big weekend or I guess I should say

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Speaker 7: Absolutely And Iowa has such a rich history of obviously wrestling,

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Speaker 5: That was really cool, sid on point.

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Speaker 7: I mean, first of all, went out there, immediately established

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Speaker 5: He fought Pyotr Jan for the interim championship, right But

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Speaker 7: Absolutely, And I think it's super important as a fighter,

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Speaker 5: In regards to that move.

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Speaker 7: That is directly influenced and taught by by Ryan Hall,

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Speaker 5: Good egg. Congratulations to uh Cory Sanhagen. Plenty more coming

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Speaker 5: Man. He's gonna be problem strength of schedule, Championship medal,

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Speaker 5: So he'd be a very interesting guy to talk to.

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Speaker 5: You gotta think there, And yes, you talked about it

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Speaker 7: But you know, no, and it's especially tough for those

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Speaker 5: Well, those who thought it was ludicrous to suggest that

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Speaker 7: I mean that's how you fast track your way to

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Speaker 7: a middleweight belt.

435
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Speaker 5: Uh. And I think that.

436
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Speaker 7: He's looked very dangerous in a variety of areas. His

437
00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:36,359
Speaker 7: striking was completely on point, just the weapon of choice

438
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Speaker 7: of where he was hurting bon Nickel. He knew by

439
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Speaker 7: just throwing that knee down the middle that he was

440
00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:46,360
Speaker 7: going to basically hurt the body or for any kind

441
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Speaker 7: of level change or double leg from bon Nickel. So

442
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Speaker 7: I thought it was smarter on a couple of different fronts.

443
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Speaker 7: But he's a guy that that might be might be

444
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Speaker 7: able to win the belt.

445
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Speaker 6: John.

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Speaker 5: So we're sitting here live on a Sunday night, Ryan

447
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Speaker 5: near de riddter r d R sorry RDA is number

448
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:07,000
Speaker 5: thirteen in the world. Right, So I'm just looking at

449
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,800
Speaker 5: these rankings here populated in our chat. You can go

450
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Speaker 5: to like UFC dot com slash rankings if you're so inclined.

451
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Speaker 5: But why don't you put him in there with that

452
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Speaker 5: Louisiana motherfucker, Brendan Allen versus bow Nickel, Right? I think

453
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Speaker 5: somebody who's going to bring the fight to bow Nickel again, Right,

454
00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:23,960
Speaker 5: because Domina Cruz often says, you know, the UFC presents

455
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,439
Speaker 5: you with certain stylistic challenges. So is that a guy

456
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Speaker 5: who's way too experienced right now you're going to give

457
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Speaker 5: him someone higher in the rankings. I mean, I don't know,

458
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Speaker 5: right I guess we're trying to spin it forward for

459
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Speaker 5: Rhinier de Ritter. But part of the issue here, I

460
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Speaker 5: guess issue in a good sense, success for Rhinier de

461
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Speaker 5: Ritter was just taking the fight right to bow and

462
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Speaker 5: not over respecting the.

463
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Speaker 7: Guy definitely, And I think that that was a big,

464
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Speaker 7: big difference in how he was responding with his striking.

465
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Speaker 7: It was almost like he didn't care if he was

466
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Speaker 7: going to be taken down or you know, he was

467
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Speaker 7: just moving forward with those needs. He got to that

468
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Speaker 7: clinch position, he was using his is physicality against bon

469
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Speaker 7: Nickel extremely well, and he found a vulnerability and kept

470
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Speaker 7: attacking it, and it was Bonnickel who just couldn't adjust

471
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Speaker 7: to it.

472
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Speaker 5: So if I asked you who is likely to fight

473
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Speaker 5: for a belt sooner, Rhyan near DeRidder or bo Nickel,

474
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Speaker 5: you'd almost assuredly say Rhyan near de Ritter. And I

475
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 5: think there's a chance he gets fast tracked. Yeah, because

476
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Speaker 5: I mean, for one, if you ain't Dutch, you ain't much, right.

477
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Speaker 5: But I also think secondarily Kenny, he seems to be

478
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Speaker 5: cut from the cloth of a guy who's willing to

479
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Speaker 5: turn around and accept big time fights on you know,

480
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Speaker 5: for six weeks. Notice he has stayed busy. The UFC

481
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Speaker 5: loves that.

482
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Speaker 7: I would also when the fact that this dude has

483
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Speaker 7: two belts in two different weight classes Man World Championships.

484
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Speaker 7: Certainly not at the love of the other UFC fighters,

485
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Speaker 7: but you know, I think that's a big deal. That's

486
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Speaker 7: something you can definitely promote, dude.

487
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Speaker 5: I saw somebody with an RDA T shirt and they

488
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Speaker 5: were trying to make the A an right, are you serious?

489
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Speaker 5: Joking right now? Okay, but don't try Just go support

490
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,199
Speaker 5: Ryan near de Ritter like we ordered IOWA Wrestling. So

491
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Speaker 5: the only bad part about the call out of Sean Strickland,

492
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Speaker 5: other than maybe leapfrogging eleven guys in the rankings, right,

493
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Speaker 5: is that if you do pay attention to the MMA stratosphere,

494
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Speaker 5: and perhaps some of us are on our cello telephones

495
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Speaker 5: more than we should be. Right, you know that Israel

496
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Speaker 5: Desina has called for a rematch with Sean Strickland and

497
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Speaker 5: is he would seem to have a lot of leverage.

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Speaker 5: I think that that rematch has a compelling nature to

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Speaker 5: it because it was fifty to forty five Strickland and

500
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Speaker 5: maybe Sean would not be of a big appetite for it, right,

501
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Speaker 5: I'm just saying. The only downside of that is that,

502
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Speaker 5: I mean, our dr is getting a big fight regardless.

503
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Speaker 5: I'm just not sure he's gonna get that one.

504
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Speaker 7: But I like the call up, you know, I absolutely

505
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 7: and also for Sean Strickland, and it is real. I

506
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 7: mean that that's a fight that's gonna make them both

507
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Speaker 7: a good amount of money and it's not for a belt, so.

508
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Speaker 5: Right right, you know that that becomes enticing for sure.

509
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 5: But Ryan near to Ridder man very very interesting and uh,

510
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 5: you know occasionally I do like to buy merchandise for

511
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Speaker 5: these fighters. So if Ryan and Ridder has any merchandise,

512
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:10,879
Speaker 5: I think I might be going to the store. By

513
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Speaker 5: the way, I got wind of Manal Fiorro or Fure

514
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Speaker 5: whatever the fuck it is, will find out Thursday. Fyodor

515
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Speaker 5: Feodal to play the file later. My twin brothers losing

516
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Speaker 5: his mind if he's watching live, so her walkout song.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I can't really say much, but it's just

518
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Speaker 5: straight fire. She's come out to her whole career, I

519
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Speaker 5: think pretty much. But oh it's so good. Yeah, man,

520
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Speaker 5: I need to know, right, you don't even need to know,

521
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Speaker 5: you just know it's fire. I mean, hop on a treadmill,

522
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Speaker 5: facts with it, Yeah, exactly, you get it all right? Well,

523
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Speaker 5: Bonnickel had seven wrestling losses in high school, and I'm

524
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 5: sure he responded quite well. But it is very interesting.

525
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 5: And this is what makes the fight game so great

526
00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:01,639
Speaker 5: because we've talked about the relative electricity of haamzat Chimai have.

527
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 5: I've repeatedly said his most electric five force in the game.

528
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 5: Dana White agrees bon Nickel hitting that inspection zone right,

529
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Speaker 5: getting fucking vasiline put on his eyebros for his next fight,

530
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 5: It's gonna be a tense moment, you know. Yeah, I mean,

531
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Speaker 5: this was a fight night in Des Moines. You know,

532
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 5: who's to say bon nichols next fight is not live

533
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 5: on pay per view against h Adamic Florian pod Man,

534
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Speaker 5: Who's should bon Nickel fight next? Congratulations to Ryan near

535
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 5: de Ritter. I'd like to flip ahead to Gillian Robertson

536
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Speaker 5: for a second before we get to de rodden some

537
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 5: of these other winners, because my gosh, man, it's pretty

538
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 5: interesting to have Dean Thomas on the show and they

539
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 5: talk about sort of physicality and finishing and everything that

540
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:43,120
Speaker 5: he's been preaching. And she's been working for so many

541
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Speaker 5: years now, tied with I think Amanda Nunez is the

542
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 5: most decorated finisher in UFC women's history. Can flow Jillian

543
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 5: Robertson sends Marina Hadriguez into retirement, and Jillian's an absolute force.

544
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Speaker 5: I'm curious how far she can take it.

545
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Speaker 7: I think would She's offensive, just like Dean said, and

546
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 7: she's moving forward and she's able to implement her ground game.

547
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,919
Speaker 7: She's going to give girls fits in that division, no

548
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 7: question about it. I think she looked really good. The

549
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 7: other thing I think is for Marina Rodriguez, can we

550
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 7: call her Amrod?

551
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:15,199
Speaker 6: That does it sound right?

552
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 4: Whatever?

553
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 3: He?

554
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 5: God, damn well, please Amrod?

555
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 6: That's what's up?

556
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 5: You know she?

557
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Speaker 7: I think it was great to be aggressive against her,

558
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 7: especially with her lack of kind of momentum in the division.

559
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,360
Speaker 5: I think she she's not fighting with.

560
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Speaker 7: The same level of confidence that she had early On

561
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Speaker 7: in my opinion, and and just the way that Robertson

562
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,400
Speaker 7: was moving forward and attacking.

563
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 5: She fought a perfect fight. So Jillian's going to get

564
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 5: a big fight at strawwaight. And I think those who

565
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 5: scoffed when I suggested Jillian in a main event maybe

566
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 5: think a little bit differently. I mean, you know, she's

567
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,639
Speaker 5: going to attack and be offensive, right, Like, if you're

568
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 5: trying to find a straweight who's not going to be

569
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,399
Speaker 5: in a twenty five minute main event, maybe it's her, dude,

570
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 5: Her and Mackenzie Dern sign it, and I think that's

571
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 5: the fight. I think that's the fight. I don't know

572
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 5: what that says relative to the rankings, right, but Dern

573
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Speaker 5: the Robertson, and that's the other thing, right, Like I'm

574
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 5: a company guy, but hopefully durn V Rodriguez excuse me,

575
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 5: durn v ha durn V Robertson, sorry, is not the

576
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 5: Apex right right, you know? Because that fight just screams

577
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 5: APEX when although the new newly designed Apex might be

578
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 5: uh might be frosty and loud. So uh, big rent

579
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Speaker 5: win for LA's Daniel Rodriguez. Huh, d Rod, I can

580
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 5: call him d Rod uh, he looked. He looked like,

581
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Speaker 5: we get back to m Rod for a second, or

582
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Speaker 5: oh yeah, sorry, I mean, you know, we don't need

583
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 5: to live in this. But three time UFC headliners she retired,

584
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 5: and then she sort of she was asking, I think,

585
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 5: for some money for a charity or you know, a

586
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 5: relative to her expectations. I think she walks away pretty disappointed,

587
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 5: and I think for a lot of fighters, you know,

588
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 5: he's just like, oh my gosh, you know a couple

589
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 5: you know, eighteen months ago, you're headlining, about to maybe

590
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 5: get in title shot candidacy, and then the next thing,

591
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 5: you know, it's over.

592
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

593
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 5: And I thought she was gonna do big things in

594
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Speaker 5: the division.

595
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Speaker 7: And I think she definitely was successful overall, no question

596
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 7: about it. But I expected even more from her, just

597
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 7: because I thought she was a really talented striker. When

598
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 7: she was on her game and throwing sharp combinations, she.

599
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 5: Was a handful.

600
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 7: I think maybe her lack of development when it came

601
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 7: to wrestling in the ground game, I think that's what

602
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,719
Speaker 7: kind of hurt her moving forward once people found that

603
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 7: they could kind of peck at that wound. And anyways,

604
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 7: but overall, I thought she was a really good striker.

605
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 5: All right, d rod Man two in a row now

606
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 5: for d Rod absolutely huge when you think about the

607
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 5: circumstances he found himself in against Calvin Gaslam in Saudi Arabia.

608
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 5: He gets it done over, you know, a sort of fading.

609
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 5: I guess at this point in time, Santiago Ponzanibo, the

610
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 5: TKO comes at one twelve or round three. Can flow

611
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 5: your thoughts on that. De Rod looked like he was

612
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 5: on point from the get go.

613
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Speaker 7: His takedown defense, especially up against the cages Ol he's

614
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 7: been good, but just his takedown defense in general was

615
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 7: on point because that's where I thought Pontinibia had the

616
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 7: best chance of beating him on the feet. Just the

617
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 7: style that Ponsinibio has. He likes to trade and he

618
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 7: likes to keep that chin up in the air, and

619
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 7: De Rod likes to take that chin off your face

620
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 7: and landed a nasty finishing sequence that would have taken

621
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 7: out a lot of guys in that division. De Rod

622
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 7: hits extremely hard. He's got long, long arms and he's

623
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 7: throwing punches and bunches down. So I thought it was

624
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 7: a fantastic performance.

625
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 5: Big night for Cannabis with wins for Gillian Robertson and

626
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 5: Daniel Rodriguez all right now with us, and we are

627
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 5: absolutely privileged and thrilled to have about ten minutes of

628
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:45,479
Speaker 5: this man's time. He has wheels and boots on the ground,

629
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Speaker 5: I believe here in Montreal, Quebec, Canada, raining defending on

630
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 5: disputed UFC Weltaway champion Balao. Remember the name Muhammad. We

631
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 5: are live, brother, It's great to see you. Where are you, sir?

632
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 8: What's up my brother? Yeah, we are touchdown in Montreal.

633
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,479
Speaker 9: I'm at We got an AIRBNBI here, so got everything

634
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 9: leveled in and uh now just chilling.

635
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 5: So fight week begins. It sounds like and it looks

636
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 5: like for those of us that have been tracking you

637
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 5: on Instagram, that you got the whole contingent. You know,

638
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 5: we were looking through the uh the corner earlier today

639
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 5: and I did notice a new name that I didn't

640
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 5: recognize for Dobbs Callem.

641
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Speaker 8: Is that right, fors No, that's a that's a that's

642
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 8: a manager. He's not gonna be a corner all right.

643
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 5: It's so interesting. So not that I'm bringing my prep

644
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 5: to the air, but you know, we got like six

645
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 5: or seven guys, I mean this entourage is getting a

646
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 5: little bit thick at this point in time as the manager,

647
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 5: so big things, first title defense. You know, I guess

648
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 5: I'll lead with the obvious question. You know, health is wealth,

649
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 5: and I know how badly you wanted to fight last December.

650
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 5: But was there a point in time where you felt

651
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 5: like the foot was back to one hundred percent and

652
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 5: you could exhale Because however life threatening it was, I

653
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 5: know it scared your inner circle maybe more than it

654
00:31:58,320 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 5: scared you.

655
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent, especially now when I think

656
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 9: back to that time, and like you said, I wanted

657
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 9: to fight back then and December so bad, and then I.

658
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 8: Thought it was the end. I was like, oh, man,

659
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 8: what the heck? Yeah? Yeah, yeah.

660
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 9: But now that I'm healthy, it's fight week. I got

661
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 9: another fight week ahead of me.

662
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 8: I'm just blessed.

663
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 3: Man.

664
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 9: I feel so good right now. I had a great

665
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 9: camp and I just can't wait to go in there

666
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 9: and perform again.

667
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 7: Well, well, you know, everybody talks about Jack Dela maud

668
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 7: Alana's striking certainly one of the best strikers in the

669
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 7: division in my opinion, But in regards to his ground game,

670
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 7: are there any threats and what do you think about

671
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 7: him training with Craig Jones.

672
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 9: I mean, for me, obviously everybody has a threat, right,

673
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 9: but I think I'm just levels above him everywhere. Even

674
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 9: when you talk about a striking, I think people don't

675
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 9: talk about my striking enough. They're talking about his striking

676
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 9: like he's Canelo Alvarez or you know Ryan Garcia, and

677
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 9: we saw how bad they looked this week at so

678
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 9: I think I'm gonna go out there. I'm gonna show

679
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 9: and remind everybody how good I am and that I

680
00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 9: can do it all.

681
00:32:58,600 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 5: I'm not just.

682
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 8: I don't have to fight you in one path, one

683
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 8: way to victory.

684
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 9: I could do everything I want to do to Jack,

685
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 9: and if I want to keep it standing, I'll keep

686
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 9: his standing. If I want to take it to the ground.

687
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 9: To get to the ground, he doesn't have that privilege

688
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 9: he wants to. He could only keep his standing if

689
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 9: it hits the ground's over. I don't care if you're

690
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 9: training with Craig Jones. Uh, you know, brock lesl whoever you're,

691
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 9: whoever you're with.

692
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 8: If I want to take you down, you're going to die.

693
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 7: I love it so And in regards to the fight

694
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 7: against Gilbert Burns. What do you think about his performance there?

695
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 5: Did? Do you think that he showed some holes in

696
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 5: his game?

697
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 8: I mean he showed the holes, right, but he showed

698
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 8: a lot of heart.

699
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 9: I think, you know, his biggest strength is that he

700
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 9: figures out a way to win.

701
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 8: He always tries to figure out a way.

702
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 9: He never gives up, and he doesn't like, you know,

703
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 9: put his head down and you.

704
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 8: Know, shy away like, but.

705
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 9: That's not gonna work with somebody like me, because you're

706
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 9: gonna try to figure out away. But then I'm gonna

707
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 9: have another way for every Plan B you have, I

708
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 9: have a Plan C, D or E.

709
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 5: We are talking to the unisputed UFC Welsway Champion Blow

710
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 5: Muhammad a is UFC three fifteen Muhammad versus Della matt

711
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 5: Atalanta live on pay per view this Saturday night. Now,

712
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 5: there does not seem to be any bad blood. And

713
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 5: not to suggest that you on le you and Leon

714
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 5: Edwards maybe would never be cordial if you ran into

715
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,359
Speaker 5: each other during International Fight Week, But like when Jack

716
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,280
Speaker 5: comes out and says that your fighting style is boring,

717
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 5: if you go beyond the headline and ingest the totality

718
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 5: of what he says he's comparing you to George Saint Pierre,

719
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 5: but they cut up him calling your style boring. So

720
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 5: to what extent is there any friction whatsoever between you

721
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:36,439
Speaker 5: and Jack?

722
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 8: Now?

723
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 9: When he said boring? I took that personally. I don't

724
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 9: have that my the Jordan moment. Uh no, Right for me,

725
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:45,280
Speaker 9: I don't take none of it personally.

726
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 3: Right.

727
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 9: They could say whatever they want to say, but I'm

728
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 9: just gonna keep winning. And for Jack, I don't have

729
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 9: to fake anything. I don't have to make a you know,

730
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 9: talk about his mom or something stuple like that.

731
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 8: Right.

732
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 9: I think that he brings it regardless, and I'm gonna

733
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,280
Speaker 9: bring it regardless. And for me, I take it personally

734
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 9: that you want to take what I had. I don't

735
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 9: even forget how long it took me to get this belt.

736
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 9: I didn't forget that they didn't want to give it

737
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 9: to me. I didn't forget that I had to call myself,

738
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 9: call myself to where I am and they're just handing

739
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 9: it to him.

740
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:14,240
Speaker 8: Right, he had?

741
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 9: What is it if I wentz and then I had

742
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 9: to do ten wins in a row. That's what I

743
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 9: take personally, That's what I'm doing. Like oh, you think

744
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 9: you're just gonna take it from me. You think you're

745
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 9: just gonna come out here and beat me and take

746
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 9: what I work so hard to get.

747
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 8: No, that's more personal to me than trash talk.

748
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,399
Speaker 5: Yeah, So I was on the treadmill this morning, and

749
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 5: I was actually thinking about you late in the game

750
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,240
Speaker 5: when I was trying to go a little bit faster

751
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:39,879
Speaker 5: and then I went a little bit slower because I'm

752
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 5: not the mentally toughest guy in the world. But you

753
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 5: are like the opposite of an excuse guy. So if

754
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 5: I were to ask you about fighting Leon Edwards in

755
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 5: his backyard at whatever hour of the night versus fighting

756
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 5: in Montreal a little bit closer to Chicago and maybe

757
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 5: a more normal hour, you're just the guy who shows up,

758
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 5: whether you've been fasting all day or not. So to

759
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 5: what extent do you sort of think about the fact

760
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 5: that Jack has had to come this far and you

761
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 5: haven't had to come as far You're competing in a

762
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 5: more normal hour, Like does that affect anything in terms

763
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 5: of your preparation, mental or otherwise?

764
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 8: No? Right, I mean, cause I just had to do

765
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 8: the same thing.

766
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,439
Speaker 9: I literally fought five am in Manchester and his city

767
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 9: we're in neutral ground, we're in Canada. For me, none

768
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 9: of that really matters, right because this is your opportunity,

769
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 9: this is your moment, is what you've been working for.

770
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 8: So there's no excuses.

771
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,439
Speaker 9: Even over there in Manchester, if I would have lost,

772
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 9: it would have been no excuses.

773
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 8: I didn't have no sleep. I'dn't have that.

774
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 9: And when people talk about myself and they were like, man,

775
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 9: that's the best version you looked at, you look for me,

776
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 9: I had no sleep.

777
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:39,280
Speaker 8: That was terrible.

778
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 9: I felt like trash when I was getting into that cage,

779
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 9: but I still went in and I fought. So the

780
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 9: version that you're going to see this Saturday, where there

781
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 9: isn't that crazy time zone change, it is only a

782
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 9: two hour fight. For me, you're gonna see the best

783
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 9: fighter that you probably ever seen in your life.

784
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 5: So I just want to piggyback on that for a second.

785
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 5: Was there anything that you or Mike Valley or Louis

786
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 5: Taylor didn't love from the Leon Edwards fight? Not that

787
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 5: you need to peel back that curtain for us, but

788
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 5: I'm just curious, like, when you look at those twenty

789
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 5: five minutes, i'd imagine you know whether it was four

790
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 5: to one year or three two you it wasn't a shutout,

791
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 5: Like what was there that you could extract from that

792
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 5: that maybe wasn't super positive?

793
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, well, I mean.

794
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 9: It's not positive when you end up the last thirty

795
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 9: seconds to get your nose cut. So there's like little

796
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 9: things that we always look at. We always try to

797
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 9: fix what went wrong. Why would we take our foot

798
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 9: off the gas that second? Did we have moments in

799
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,240
Speaker 9: the fight where we could have searched more and got

800
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 9: to finish?

801
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 3: Right?

802
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 9: I think even how you say he's working for Kreig Jones,

803
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 9: for me this whole camp, we had Jero Miersar back

804
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 9: in the gym and his jiu jitsu in his mind

805
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 9: and is the knowledge is priceles for me this camp right,

806
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 9: And I think it's helped us and helped team a lot,

807
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 9: especially even see Nacho get a submission his last fight.

808
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 9: I think Gerald has a lot to do with that

809
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 9: as well, because now we have a u just a

810
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 9: coach that understands it with fighting and just to put together.

811
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 9: So you're just gonna keep seeing a better vision, a

812
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 9: growing version every time see me in the cage and

813
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:02,879
Speaker 9: now adding him out of team He's just another level.

814
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 5: So I hate to even ask you about ISLAMI Kashev,

815
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:08,800
Speaker 5: and I'm only going to do so in the context

816
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 5: of something you said to us when we were getting

817
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 5: ready to call your fight against Sean Brady. You had

818
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,959
Speaker 5: all these positive things to say about Islam. You weren't

819
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 5: at all thinking about the possibility of getting asked about

820
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 5: him as a future opponent, and you talked about his

821
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:24,760
Speaker 5: humility and just how great he was, you know, And

822
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 5: now it seems like maybe there's some sort of hold up.

823
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 5: Have you known him to be desirous of becoming a

824
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:35,359
Speaker 5: double champion prior maybe more than trying to go down

825
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,720
Speaker 5: as like the greatest lightweight champ of all time?

826
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean.

827
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 9: We've ever We've talked about it, said it, and he's

828
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 9: all that you ruined my plans. It's one of those

829
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:47,839
Speaker 9: things like, oh you wanted to know you ruin my plans. Yeah,

830
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 9: And I think, like you said, where there's people now

831
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 9: they're waiting to see what happens this weekend. But I

832
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 9: tell them, like, I'll eat your fight time because I'm

833
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 9: not leaving Mantraal without the belt.

834
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 8: I'm still gonna be the champ. So start your camp

835
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 8: right now, whoever you have in line, whoever you.

836
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 5: Have in the store, You're good, hey, before I let

837
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 5: you go. In terms of the rest of this welterweight division,

838
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,839
Speaker 5: right to what extent do you have knowledge that Ian

839
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 5: Maschado Gary might be a backup when he was walking

840
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 5: in there to fight Carlos protests, no.

841
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 9: Knowledge that was And even when he said it in

842
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 9: a cage, I'm like, bro, there's no way this guy's

843
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 9: about to step up as a backup because he looked

844
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 9: a little bit beat up, especially in that fifth round

845
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 9: when you crawl on the floor. I'm like, he probably

846
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 9: he definitely took some damage. But is he gonna make

847
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 9: weight again? And it is really gonna be worth it

848
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 9: because I I'm not pulling out, and I'm sure Jack's

849
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 9: not pulling out come away from Australia, So is it

850
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 9: really worth for you to make the way. But you

851
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 9: know he's trying, right, especially in the division now where

852
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 9: people are saying there isn't a clear number one contender anymore,

853
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 9: and Shopcott, we.

854
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 8: Don't know when he's coming back.

855
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 9: And then you got Brady who just looked great against

856
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 9: Leon Edwards, and you got Tomorrow and Buckley that are

857
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 9: about to fight each other, and I think for him,

858
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 9: he's trying to just put his name in the mix

859
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,720
Speaker 9: and thinking that he's gonna cement himself as being a backup.

860
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 8: But you never know what the UFC wants, right, The.

861
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 9: UFC will will make whatever they and I think if

862
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 9: if Kamal wins, they'll make Cross get the line no

863
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 9: matter what I feel.

864
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, it's fascinating, right, But I do think it's interesting,

865
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 5: and it almost felt like a stroke that you might

866
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 5: have pulled, right, Like, yeah, I'll step up and fight

867
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 5: Carlos protest, right, but I'm going to weigh in two

868
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 5: weeks later as the backup. Right. But we were sort

869
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,399
Speaker 5: of joking last week, like, gosh, you know, he better

870
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,760
Speaker 5: hope that you guys both get to fight night because

871
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 5: I think, you know, I mean, let's not discount those

872
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 5: twenty five minutes against Carlos, you know.

873
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm like, bro, just the bumps of bruises you

874
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 9: get from a fight, even if you win dominantly, you

875
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 9: still get a whole bunch of bunch of bunch of bruises.

876
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 9: Especially with mbys almost so well in the last two rounds.

877
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 8: Took a lot of damage.

878
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,439
Speaker 9: So I'm like, bro, if if you end up having

879
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 9: this stuff up, you better back it up right, because

880
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 9: if the calls him and he's like, oh, you know what,

881
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 9: I'm still injured.

882
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, well dude, we can't wait to put the shine

883
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 5: on you this week. I really just want to see

884
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 5: your face right to be able to introduce you this week.

885
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 5: Obviously is reigning TOFA and got disputed, the man around

886
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 5: whom this fight card was built. And you know, per capita,

887
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 5: these people make as much noise as any MMA fans

888
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 5: in the world, so I'm excited for you to feel

889
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 5: all of that. Congrats on getting your first title defense,

890
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 5: and uh, We'll try not to be too up in

891
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 5: your face all week. Champ.

892
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 8: My brother come to the hot any time. Bro. You

893
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 8: know we got you all right.

894
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 5: I'll see him Monday or Tuesday. Champ. Thanks for a

895
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 5: few minutes. We love you, Love you guys, Good luck.

896
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 5: Man is blaw remember the name Muhammad set to make

897
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 5: the first defense of his title in Montreal live on

898
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 5: pay per view this Saturday, and the man's all business.

899
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 5: You know, he's not going to give you specific details.

900
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 5: I think when it comes to, uh, to certain things,

901
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 5: I think and rightfully so, but uh self belief and

902
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 5: you know, hard work lead the dance, not unlike Floyd

903
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 5: Mayweather and many other all time greats.

904
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 7: He sounded very, very confident and everything he has said

905
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 7: he was going to do, he's been doing.

906
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 5: So yeah, all right, we'll see how it goes for

907
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 5: Balah Muhammad about a two to one betting favorite against

908
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 5: Jack Dela Mattelena. That is part of the main card

909
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 5: coming up on pay per view. Also Valentina Chevchenko and

910
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 5: Minol Fuor as well. All right, going to get back

911
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 5: to a few fight night highlights if I could, before

912
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 5: we get to the great Raymond Peter Longo. So Jeremy

913
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 5: Lil Heathen Stevens is back in defeat, but he's back, man,

914
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 5: and he landed a lot of big uppercuts that Mason

915
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 5: Jones had to respect. Mason Jones showed you that he

916
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 5: is absolutely UFC level. Dude's the man. I mean, However,

917
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 5: your scorecard was two to one three and l I

918
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 5: had a thirty to twenty seven for Mason Jones, who

919
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 5: who really I think, showed that he never should have

920
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 5: been outside the UFC. And Stevens valiant in defeat. What

921
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 5: a way to kick off the main card there in Iowa.

922
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 7: That was an amazing fight. The crowd was going nuts. Obviously,

923
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:50,359
Speaker 7: you Jeremy is from that area. But Mason Jones, man,

924
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 7: he came to fight and I think it was impressive

925
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 7: what he was doing on the feet. But the big

926
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 7: difference maker obviously in that fight was his ability to

927
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 7: take the fight to the ground. Uh and hurt Jeremy there,

928
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 7: but uh, man, very very exciting fight.

929
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 5: Did that get Fight of the night? So the bonuses

930
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 5: went to Corey sand Haagen, Ryan near deritter, Azamat Bakoyev,

931
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 5: who we should probably talk about, and uh and Kwang Lee.

932
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 5: No Fight of the night was awarded, So but you know,

933
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 5: we'll see the extent to which this means Stevens is back.

934
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 5: You know, I don't know if anything was said at

935
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 5: the postfight press conference, but I would like to see

936
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 5: him get another fight in the UFC. What' jamake of

937
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 5: the Montel Jackson fight. Did you see his win over

938
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 5: Daniel Marcos takes his Oh?

939
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:33,399
Speaker 6: I did? I did.

940
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 5: I thought he looked fantastic.

941
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 7: That foot sweep that he that he hit Marcos was

942
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:41,919
Speaker 7: a was a thing of beauty. Yeah, he's just a

943
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,919
Speaker 7: really smart fighter who's not about really making a whole

944
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 7: lot of mistakes, and if he does, he finds a

945
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 7: way out of them really easily.

946
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm glad I picked him.

947
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,839
Speaker 7: He he just seems like he's, uh, he's there to win, man,

948
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 7: He's he's all business, that kid, and and Marcos is

949
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:57,839
Speaker 7: no joke.

950
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 5: Well, now he's gonna get the big fight. And you

951
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,879
Speaker 5: could suggest that this one was big, and it was right,

952
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,399
Speaker 5: but now Montell's going to get the big fight. And yeah,

953
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 5: I mean, what is he five eleven, one hundred and

954
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 5: thirty five pounds with hands bigger than Francis and Gano.

955
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 5: We won this fight thirty twenty seven times three and

956
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 5: neutralised Marcos. But uh, yeah, I don't know. I mean,

957
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:18,439
Speaker 5: Bantamwaight's fascinating, you know. I mean not that long ago.

958
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 5: Kyler Phillips was a guy whose cause I was championing,

959
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 5: and he was on the CUSP and then uh, you know,

960
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:27,359
Speaker 5: ran into Rob font But uh, Montel Jackson, I think

961
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 5: is going to be heard from and now he's going

962
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 5: to get that big fight against one of those guys

963
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 5: probably in the uh in the bantamweight division's top ten.

964
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,399
Speaker 5: Surrey City over Cameron smother Maan, I thought City looked great.

965
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 5: I mean, I believe in so many of these guys,

966
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 5: and you know, at thirty five and forty five, right,

967
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 5: like the depth is a compliment as much as it

968
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 5: is an issue. Right, But Surrey City I thought looked

969
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,359
Speaker 5: great against Cameron Smotherment. Yeah.

970
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,320
Speaker 7: Absolutely, It's Smotherment's tough. I mean, he'll get in your face,

971
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 7: but serious City. You know, when I watched his fights,

972
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 7: he just seemed really really skillful, and it's just seemed

973
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 7: like he was lacking a little bit of that comfort

974
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 7: level in the in the cage, but seemed like it

975
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 7: was getting better each time out. And sure enough, it

976
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 7: was even better this time around here against Motherman.

977
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:10,280
Speaker 5: Uh looked really really sharp.

978
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 7: His kicking game was on point, his footwork looked good,

979
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:14,959
Speaker 7: his ground attacks were really good.

980
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 5: I like this kid. Did you happen to see the

981
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 5: Yana Santos Misha Tate fight. It was the first fight

982
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 5: that I watched.

983
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,359
Speaker 7: Yeah, I saw highlights of it.

984
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 5: Was it was it a super close fight? Was that

985
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 5: where people were booing?

986
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 3: Lo?

987
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 5: I saw that part what happened was because yeah, I

988
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 5: mean it wasn't the fight of the year. I mean,

989
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 5: came out really hard and then had moments in round three,

990
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,439
Speaker 5: but large Lee Santos was able to sort of cut

991
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 5: angles and outpoint her. But you know, I thought Misha

992
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,439
Speaker 5: came out valiantly and it was just good to see

993
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 5: her back on the proven ground. Physically, I thought she

994
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 5: looked good. But yeah, I thought Yana Santos deserved to win.

995
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 5: You know, I was just curious if you had seen that,

996
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 5: just acknowledging the former champion. Congratulations to Osama Pakoyev. And

997
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 5: you know, we talked about Jillian robertson Sower because about

998
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 5: time she gets some shot, right. I mean, I think

999
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 5: there's promotionally a lotch that you can do as well

1000
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 5: with her, you know, especially if you want to lean

1001
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 5: into the cannabis stuff. Or we got Ray Longo coming up.

1002
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 5: Oh you know what, Ray Long goes here right now?

1003
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 5: So I mean, why would I why would I read

1004
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,399
Speaker 5: a commercial and and keep a good man waiting. Let's

1005
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:22,720
Speaker 5: get to the Ray Longo minute.

1006
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 4: It's now time for a Ray Long minute.

1007
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 6: I'm gonna plush a hole in this.

1008
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 4: The Ray Long Minute. John Annik and Kenny Florian Podcast.

1009
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:48,919
Speaker 3: Hey Hey, badhead day again. Hello, how are you guys

1010
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 3: doing on a Sunday night.

1011
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 5: Great to see you in prime time. We appreciate you

1012
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 5: making the pivot with us.

1013
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 3: Brother, you're fighting in the dark room, John, where are you? So?

1014
00:46:58,880 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1015
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 5: It's tough. I mean, here you go? Is that better?

1016
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 5: The sun went down here, I'm in Montreal already.

1017
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:06,720
Speaker 3: Oh wow.

1018
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 5: Yeah. So we're ready to go, and we got a

1019
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 5: pay per view coming up this weekend. But it's nice

1020
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 5: to see you. Anakin Floor and Podcast presented by DraftKings. DraftKings.

1021
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 5: The crowd is yours. So I'd like to get a

1022
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,800
Speaker 5: few thoughts on Corey Sandhagen from you if I could.

1023
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 5: I think a guy that is just easy for a

1024
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 5: lot of the people embedded in this fight game to

1025
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 5: root for and gets it done against the former flyweight

1026
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 5: champion Davison Figuretto Raymond. What'd you make of that look?

1027
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 3: I think Corey's always been one of the most talented

1028
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 3: guys in that division, and he remains one of the

1029
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 3: most talented guys in that division. He could do everything.

1030
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 3: I think he's had some sort of slips here and there,

1031
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 3: but I love his attitude. I love that he perseveres

1032
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 3: through it and he keeps I believe getting better. I

1033
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 3: think trev is going to add a little bit of stability,

1034
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:02,320
Speaker 3: maybe take away, uh, some of the craziest things he

1035
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 3: used to do all the time. I think, like the

1036
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 3: flying knee at certain times is good, but could get

1037
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 3: you in trouble.

1038
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 5: Uh.

1039
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 3: But I think he's got a good combination now and

1040
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 3: I think he seems like his head's in the right

1041
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 3: spot and he definitely deserves a title shot for sure.

1042
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 3: I think he's not He's one of the only guys

1043
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,399
Speaker 3: that hasn't fought for it yet. And he's right, he's

1044
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 3: just right there. I think he's a great guy, and uh,

1045
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,959
Speaker 3: I wish the best for him.

1046
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:31,839
Speaker 5: Right Uh did you see this bow?

1047
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:32,240
Speaker 6: Nickel?

1048
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 5: Upset?

1049
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 3: I got it? Let me tell you them.

1050
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1051
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 3: Uh, you know it's funny. I was in the gym

1052
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 3: and I'm told that we got a guy Gershan and

1053
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 3: I don't think this guy's ever missed on a fight.

1054
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 3: I mean, hats off to him. Shout out to Gershon

1055
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 3: because he's that might be the best handicap, right know.

1056
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 3: And he tells me before I go, who do you

1057
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 3: got in a Nickel fight? Because I like, you know,

1058
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 3: fucking around with him because I'm taking the Ritter. I go, really,

1059
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 3: I go, that's a big that's a big step. He goes, Nah,

1060
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 3: he's gonna do it. And man, he was right a

1061
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 3: guy go if he gets this right, I'm never going

1062
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 3: against him again. But uh, hats off the ridder. You know,

1063
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 3: it's a tough guy. Man. I didn't. I mean I

1064
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 3: was really high on bone nickel. Man. I I don't

1065
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 3: know what I was looking at, but that didn't look good.

1066
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 3: That looked like a guy that was never really hit before. Like,

1067
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 3: you know, it just didn't hit man, it just didn't

1068
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 3: look good. I don't know. It was a really bad

1069
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 3: optic for me. But I still he's pretty brutal though, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1070
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 3: well you're not used to you know. I think you know,

1071
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:45,919
Speaker 3: I was talking to another kid at the Jimmy. He's

1072
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 3: like a good competitor. But competing and fighting is two

1073
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 3: huge differences, man. Like it's it's it goes back to

1074
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 3: you know, you're a black belt until you get punched

1075
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 3: in the face and you're a blue belt. I mean,

1076
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:02,280
Speaker 3: you gotta it's it's a fight, man, and it's really

1077
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:05,399
Speaker 3: not a competition. It's a fucking fistfight. You know. It's

1078
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 3: got some rules, But at the end of the day, man,

1079
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 3: you better be able to go through fire if you

1080
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 3: have to. And he didn't. Uh, he didn't pass that test.

1081
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:17,319
Speaker 5: Man. And you know, his longtime roommate, fellow Penn State

1082
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 5: wrestler Anthony Kassar, started out as a pro fighter and

1083
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 5: went into real estate. And I'm not comparing their resumes

1084
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 5: or anything necessarily, right, But I asked Kenny earlier, right, like,

1085
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 5: does he still think that bon Nickel right with this

1086
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 5: result now as part of the equation, will one day

1087
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 5: still fight for the title? I was going to ask

1088
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 5: our listeners like, do you think bon Nickel will still

1089
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:41,760
Speaker 5: get to the top five if you thought so before,

1090
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 5: or maybe fight for the title. And you know, I'm

1091
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 5: not trying to get too far ahead of ourselves, but

1092
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 5: there's a lot of work to be done now to

1093
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:52,400
Speaker 5: think about him challenging say number eleven in the world,

1094
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 5: Brendan Allen.

1095
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 3: In my opinion, yeah, well he's going to have to

1096
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 3: start if he wants to do it. I'd actually have

1097
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 3: to listen to him talk to see which direction he's

1098
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 3: going in. But I mean, there's a million things to

1099
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 3: correct at this point, so he could I mean, he's

1100
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 3: got the chops. I mean, once you wrestle like that

1101
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 3: at that level, you're at least in tune with training

1102
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 3: hard and going through some sort of adversity. So I

1103
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:20,959
Speaker 3: think it'll be good. I mean, I can only kind

1104
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 3: of compare it to Wideman, but man, Whiteman fought for

1105
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 3: that title with like nine to ten fights. He wanted

1106
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 3: to fight. Man, I used to throw him in with boxes.

1107
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 3: I mean, he knew what it was like to get

1108
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 3: beat up, like not not beat up, but he was

1109
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:35,800
Speaker 3: in the frying pan like I wasn't gonna let that happen,

1110
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 3: you know, Like I don't know, man, like he yeah,

1111
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 3: he was cutting weight. He was making thirty pounds in

1112
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 3: a week. I mean, he just tortured himself. But he

1113
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,399
Speaker 3: wanted it that bad. And I don't know if I'm

1114
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 3: seeing that now in bow Nickel, And I know it's

1115
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,720
Speaker 3: hindsight is twenty twenty because I said this is a

1116
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:56,240
Speaker 3: while ago. I thought he could afford for the title whenever.

1117
00:51:56,360 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 3: But man, I'm kind of backtracking now. I don't know.

1118
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 3: I hope I hope he turns it around, and I

1119
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 3: hope he I don't know what. I hope he gets

1120
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 3: back in there. And you know, proves himself, but you

1121
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 3: gotta want It's a fucking fight, man, I don't know

1122
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 3: how else to put it. Like it's well, it just

1123
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:16,840
Speaker 3: looked like a guy thinking he was going to compete.

1124
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 3: All of a sudden, the guy was founding, you know

1125
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 3: what I mean, Like he just didn't react the right way,

1126
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:25,400
Speaker 3: you sort of even before the fight was stopped. I'm like,

1127
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 3: is that possible? Is he is he kind of turning

1128
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 3: his back as he wins it? I don't know, man,

1129
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 3: So he's gotta h I'd love to hear his take

1130
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 3: on it.

1131
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:37,799
Speaker 5: You know, Yeah, I was gonna let kenn of get

1132
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 5: in here. I didn't know if you were sort of

1133
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 5: chopping at the bit to say something, But yeah, yes,

1134
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 5: I sort of want to give him a couple of months, right,

1135
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 5: And he has a great support system and really not

1136
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:51,839
Speaker 5: just good coaches, but coaches who have done it at

1137
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 5: the elite level, right, Thiago Alvez, Mike Brown. So I

1138
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 5: think he's got the right support system. Dan Lambert American

1139
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 5: top team. But when Ray says they're myria issues, that

1140
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 5: is not loss on on me. Right, Like you could

1141
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 5: talk about sort of you know, gas maintenance, right in

1142
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 5: terms of an angle of all of this when you're

1143
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:14,319
Speaker 5: absorbing punishment and you know, like total cardiovascular abandonment, so

1144
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 5: many wayward moments in this fight. Like I understand the

1145
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 5: value of a loss and how a setback can be

1146
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 5: a propellant, but my gosh, I mean I didn't see

1147
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 5: it live. I watched it after the fact, and it

1148
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:26,959
Speaker 5: was worse than I thought.

1149
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 7: I wonder, ray to your point, how often he actually

1150
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 7: goes to like att HQ in Florida to train? You know,

1151
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 7: I know he does his own training in a separate

1152
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 7: do you know, John of how much?

1153
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 5: Yeah here with other guys, great question. So he does,

1154
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 5: but the time is split, and maybe that is something

1155
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 5: that he would actually consider, would be moving to Florida

1156
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 5: full time, you know.

1157
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 3: But in Florida full time.

1158
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 5: Well, what's time? I think he still lives in Pennsylvania.

1159
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 5: So you know, hey, you Northeastern is right? I mean,

1160
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:01,319
Speaker 5: Kenny and I about them, but you know.

1161
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 6: You Ken, Yeah, Kenny, what was your take on that?

1162
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:08,359
Speaker 7: So I I think I think he can get back there,

1163
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 7: you know, I think that he's still you know, especially

1164
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:15,759
Speaker 7: compared to a guy like RDR. It doesn't have anywhere

1165
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 7: close to the experience that that guy has, so I think,

1166
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 7: you know, physically he was showing those telltale signs that

1167
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 7: he was hurt. I think those things can be rectified

1168
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 7: with time, hopefully. I think he's tough enough. I think

1169
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 7: he knows how to come back from adversity, so I

1170
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 7: think he'll be fine. But how much other things do

1171
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 7: we not know about bow Nickel?

1172
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 5: Like what else? What else don't we know?

1173
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 6: You know, it's very early.

1174
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 7: So again, this was his first big set back, his

1175
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:47,959
Speaker 7: first real fight, and we'll see what he takes next.

1176
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,360
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean, my thing always is and always

1177
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 3: will be. You got to find what I saw last

1178
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 3: night that has to be found out in the gym

1179
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 3: and corrected before a fight like that. It's just you know,

1180
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 3: you know, I don't want to keep bringing Chris up.

1181
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 3: I mean, I love the guy so but even like

1182
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 3: when he was first starting out Widen, I couldn't get

1183
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:10,280
Speaker 3: him a fight like the Athletic Commission turned down fight

1184
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 3: after fight after fighters of his wrestling chops. You know,

1185
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 3: like I'm saying, like I almost want to say, a

1186
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 3: guy like de Rita, he would have been in the

1187
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 3: same He would have probably the Athletic Commission wuldn't even

1188
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:25,799
Speaker 3: allowed that fight. So it's not like he doesn't have

1189
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 3: that experience. But when you have the wrestling experience he has,

1190
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 3: I don't believe it takes that much to fine tune

1191
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 3: the other stuff, like, you know what I mean, Like,

1192
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:38,319
Speaker 3: I don't know that was That's my experience. I mean,

1193
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 3: and I've taken a lot of wrestlers and watched them

1194
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:44,479
Speaker 3: grow through through stuff. But it's got to be done

1195
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 3: the right way. And I don't know. I mean, I

1196
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 3: hope he's all right. I'm a big fan either way,

1197
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 3: but I thought what I saw that night was just

1198
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 3: wasn't a good look optically, was horrible.

1199
00:55:55,520 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 5: Matter of fact, Yeah, No, I think that's prey put

1200
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:04,839
Speaker 5: and it's interesting two schools of thought and maybe not

1201
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 5: just too, because there are prongs to it, right, but

1202
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 5: more developmental time. If I'm b nickel, I'm like, how

1203
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:12,880
Speaker 5: soon can I get that motherfucker? It tastes out my

1204
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 5: mouth and there's only one place that I can do that, right,

1205
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 5: And I'm saying I'm not saying, you know, he needs

1206
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:20,839
Speaker 5: to get back there in six weeks, but I'd rather

1207
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 5: be twelve to fourteen than another six months, right, Say

1208
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 5: what you want about Kamzat Chimayev's relative inactivity for his career,

1209
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 5: but he thought twice in ten days, and he's about it,

1210
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 5: you know, And I'm suggesting Bo's about it. If I'm him,

1211
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 5: I'm saying, Statista, let's get a fucking fight and fucking

1212
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 5: regain some confidence, you know.

1213
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 3: I mean the other one observation I want to make, Kenny,

1214
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 3: I don't know if if you'll agree in that. I

1215
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 3: mean a kind of look tiny in the computing.

1216
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 7: Literally just looking up their sizes, because that's the thing.

1217
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 5: It was right near to Ritter just huge or his

1218
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 5: Bonnickel small for the division has had success up you know.

1219
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just saying, is one seventy possibility? Do we

1220
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:02,880
Speaker 3: know what he wrestled at in college?

1221
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 5: Which case that for you? But I don't, I don't see.

1222
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 8: I don't think it.

1223
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:12,799
Speaker 5: No, I thought it was like two or something. Yeah,

1224
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 5: I just feel like it'd be tough. There's yeah, he's

1225
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 5: not going to push.

1226
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 3: The probably une seventy five pound if I had that division.

1227
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 3: Maybe I just think he looked.

1228
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 5: Seventy four, eighty four and ninety seven in college free

1229
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 5: time NCAA champion he won titles at seventy four, eighty four,

1230
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 5: and ninety seven from twenty seventeen to twenty nineteen. Thank you, Cody.

1231
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 5: So but you know, five years or so into the

1232
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 5: MMA developmental game, right you know, not a newcomer, right. So,

1233
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 5: but no, I believe in the athlete as much as

1234
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 5: Kenny does, to be sure. I just think that's why

1235
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 5: this is such an interesting setback to uh to sort

1236
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 5: of analysts. All right, Yeah, a few other things I

1237
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:56,680
Speaker 5: would like to get to with Raymond if I could.

1238
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 5: I don't know if there were any performances of note

1239
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 5: that you wanted to talk about. I mean, Deritter, I

1240
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 5: think can really do some big things here and can

1241
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 5: potentially be fast tracked big win for d Rod Jillian Robertson.

1242
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 5: Unless you got anything on those, I'd kind of like

1243
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 5: to spend it forward to USC three fifteen with your Raymond.

1244
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 1: Uh.

1245
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 3: I think that Jillian Robinson fight it was, Yeah, she's

1246
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 3: looking really good and she's still young, which I think

1247
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 3: is phenomenal. So hats off to Dean Thomas. I think

1248
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 3: he's doing a great job with her.

1249
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:26,439
Speaker 8: Uh.

1250
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 3: I thought the Jeremy Stevens fight the first two rounds

1251
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 3: was total insanity, and that's a fight everybody has to

1252
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 3: like because it wasn't two sloppy guys beating the crap

1253
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 3: out of each other. There was a lot of technical

1254
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 3: stuff going on, and then it was just that excites me,

1255
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 3: that type of fight.

1256
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 5: That was a fun fight.

1257
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 3: That's a fun fight, man.

1258
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 5: All right. So you know you are very verbose, except

1259
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 5: when it comes time to make a prediction. So I'm

1260
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 5: not going to ask you like your social media team does,

1261
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 5: to make a predict on Blao Muhammad versus Jack Dela Matdelena.

1262
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 5: So I'm gonna ask you where you think this fight

1263
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 5: will be contested for the most part, in the striking

1264
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 5: realm or in the grappling realm. Is that a fair question, that's.

1265
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 3: A fair question. I would say it'll be contested more

1266
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:20,440
Speaker 3: on the floor than it will be standing up.

1267
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 5: So that seems like a lean to blow Muhamma.

1268
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's a lean.

1269
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 5: Yeah. So, Kenny and I have watched a lot of

1270
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 5: film and the lead up to this fight, specifically on

1271
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 5: the Jack Dela Madelena side, and he's a very instinctual,

1272
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:39,960
Speaker 5: fluid fighter. But I think sometimes for people, maybe you

1273
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 5: look at a result against Basil Jfez or you know,

1274
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 5: certain results that make you wonder how he might deal

1275
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 5: with this particular stylistic challenge. How do you feel like

1276
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 5: they match up on the feet though.

1277
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 3: I think you'll disagree with a big advantage to Jack Delamaloy.

1278
00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 5: Why Why? Because I'm not an objective of so I

1279
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 5: will disagree with that one. No wonder will is entrusting

1280
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 5: me with calling the fight on paper?

1281
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 3: What I wouldn't want to be you? I'll tell you that,

1282
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 3: I swear I'm not. I wouldn't want to be you.

1283
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 5: When we launched, remember the show with Balal and my

1284
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 5: twin brother on the Anakin Floorian podcast YouTube channel, BLAU

1285
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 5: was unranked number probably twenty seven in the world. You

1286
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 5: look it off like you're bored. I'm just saying no.

1287
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:32,880
Speaker 5: I mean I've gone to great lengths to Uh. I

1288
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 5: got my one more Sleep Australia T shirt packed with

1289
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 5: me to wear the way and to support Jack.

1290
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 3: No.

1291
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:40,440
Speaker 5: I I go to great lengths to support all of

1292
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 5: these athletes. But I assure you, if you were to

1293
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:45,960
Speaker 5: ask Tim Simpson, his manager, or Jack if they felt bias, uh,

1294
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 5: they wouldn't feel the way you do. But we'll see

1295
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 5: if we call it do see, we call it down

1296
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 5: the middle thought brow.

1297
01:00:56,840 --> 01:01:00,240
Speaker 3: So you'll John, you'll always do the right thing, rust

1298
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 3: in you.

1299
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 5: But I can suggest to you that Blal doesn't get

1300
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 5: credit for his striking, and his striking is underrated, all

1301
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 5: while saying that's not nearly as layered as Jack right

1302
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 5: the foot right for example.

1303
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:17,200
Speaker 3: Right. Look, what Bilaal's got going for him is they

1304
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 3: are gonna be fearful of his wrestling, which obviously opens

1305
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 3: up your hands. So because of that, I think he

1306
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 3: could take certain liberties and and he'll be fine. Uh

1307
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:29,920
Speaker 3: but if it just was contested on the feet and

1308
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 3: there was no takedowns involved, I'm saying Jack Medalina would

1309
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 3: have a big advantage on him. You know, but when

1310
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:40,440
Speaker 3: you blend everything together, which is MMA, it's not going

1311
01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:42,520
Speaker 3: to be that white of a disparagey, I don't think.

1312
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, comine, event, who do you believe his

1313
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 5: favor between Valentina Chevchenko and the frenchwoman man all the

1314
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:58,400
Speaker 5: beast Philo chef Chenko is not the favorite. And every

1315
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 5: time I go on a DraftKings Sportsbooks becomes a bigger underdog.

1316
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 5: Your thoughts on that?

1317
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:03,120
Speaker 6: Wow?

1318
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 3: Uh, Man, I don't know what. I like the other girl.

1319
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 3: She's long, little look, would you know, got good range?

1320
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 3: But I think she just Shenko's too much for her.

1321
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 5: Okay, So you're advising our listenership and viewership to maybe

1322
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:29,919
Speaker 5: look at Valentina Schevchenko at wait for it, plus one

1323
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:32,760
Speaker 5: thirty is the live number on Draftking sports Book.

1324
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 6: Now.

1325
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:35,120
Speaker 5: When I first sent that line to Kenny, she was

1326
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:37,800
Speaker 5: like plus one oh two or so. Now she's plus

1327
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 5: one thirty so and even better number than before.

1328
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 3: Ray, I like the number.

1329
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:48,120
Speaker 5: Which champion are you more confident in? Valentina Chevchenko or

1330
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:49,040
Speaker 5: Balao Muhammad.

1331
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 3: Oh that's a good question, thanks, Ray. But I think

1332
01:02:57,360 --> 01:03:01,480
Speaker 3: Balal because I think Balal still out to prove something

1333
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:03,600
Speaker 3: and he's still up and coming. She's been there, done

1334
01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 3: that loss, came back, you know. I hope her reasons

1335
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 3: for fighting are the same day what six fights ago.

1336
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 3: That's the only thing I'm uncertain of, But I think

1337
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:14,320
Speaker 3: but Lal's still on the come up, you know what

1338
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:17,240
Speaker 3: I mean, And he's got a lot a lot more

1339
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:19,400
Speaker 3: to give, and I think that's the difference. So I'd

1340
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 3: say I'd feel more comfortable with him than with her.

1341
01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:25,520
Speaker 5: Any news on the Al Jamain Sterling front before we

1342
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:26,840
Speaker 5: get to some would you rathers?

1343
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:31,080
Speaker 3: No, nothing, nothing at all. I haven't even talked to him.

1344
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 3: I saw, I saw he was in Bally, I commented

1345
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:37,000
Speaker 3: a little bit. But he looks like he's he looks

1346
01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:40,320
Speaker 3: like he's getting his working. He's funny man, he's a

1347
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:43,760
Speaker 3: different cat man. He's I think he's really loving life

1348
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 3: and he's doing great.

1349
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:49,479
Speaker 5: Yeah wait a second, your gym manager, longtime anaking flooring

1350
01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 5: podcast supporter Steve Lee. His wife had a baby last

1351
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:56,480
Speaker 5: week and the middle name is Raymond.

1352
01:03:56,160 --> 01:04:05,640
Speaker 3: After Yeah, thats just course me five grand Kenny. I

1353
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:08,439
Speaker 3: think that guy's he might be a genius. I'm not sure.

1354
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 5: I mean, you're probably not the Godfather, but wow, you

1355
01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 5: just had a baby named after you?

1356
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 6: Is that right?

1357
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:19,320
Speaker 5: Or no? Oh you are the Godfather?

1358
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:21,760
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, that's what they said.

1359
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:25,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, Cody, Yeah, Cody's right, he's the Godfather. Yeah

1360
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:28,040
Speaker 5: you are. Figuratively you're the Godfather, but they went in

1361
01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:30,840
Speaker 5: another direction with the actual godfather. So no, but this

1362
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:32,120
Speaker 5: kid was named after you.

1363
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:34,360
Speaker 3: I have no idea.

1364
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 5: Oh come on right, I mean, we're just gonna fucking

1365
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:41,400
Speaker 5: go back to the next fifties. And go with the

1366
01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:46,040
Speaker 5: name Raymond. Everybody loves Raymond. I mean Raymond. It's got

1367
01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:50,240
Speaker 5: to be after you. Yeah right, that's amazing. You know

1368
01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:53,400
Speaker 5: my son, my son is Hunter Jay and after my

1369
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:54,040
Speaker 5: twin brother.

1370
01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:54,840
Speaker 3: Wow.

1371
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:57,680
Speaker 5: No, yeah, Jewish people are not supposed to name after

1372
01:04:57,720 --> 01:05:00,240
Speaker 5: the living. So I changed it from Jason to j said,

1373
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:03,120
Speaker 5: you know what, gotta do it. But that is an

1374
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:06,720
Speaker 5: amazing honor for you, Ray, you know, yeah, that's awesome. Man.

1375
01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 5: I congratulate Steve for us man. Yeah, yeah, definitely, yeah,

1376
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 5: Steve Lee that man.

1377
01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:12,920
Speaker 3: And he's got a healthy baby boy, which is all

1378
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:13,440
Speaker 3: that matters.

1379
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:18,080
Speaker 5: Yes, it's great, very cool, that is all that matters.

1380
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:20,320
Speaker 5: All right, Ray, we got a few more minutes and

1381
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:21,800
Speaker 5: I'm elect you get back. What are you doing tonight?

1382
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:23,560
Speaker 5: What are you doing tonight? You're looking at the clock.

1383
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:24,920
Speaker 3: We got a few more No, I didn't look at

1384
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:28,560
Speaker 3: the clock. I was cracking my neck. I've actually just

1385
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:31,120
Speaker 3: got back from the gym. I was there the whole day, so.

1386
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 5: All day long. Let me clear my throat. Hey, so

1387
01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:38,200
Speaker 5: what uh, what are you guys doing tonight? You and

1388
01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:40,560
Speaker 5: a wife hanging out watching a movie, watching combat? What's

1389
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:41,880
Speaker 5: what's for dinner? And what are we doing?

1390
01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:45,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll watch a little couple of shows or whatever

1391
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:46,120
Speaker 3: we're going to do.

1392
01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:48,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, do you know what show? Is it? A series

1393
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:49,600
Speaker 5: that maybe you watched prior and.

1394
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:52,400
Speaker 3: We've been we've been watching White Lotus catching up on that?

1395
01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 5: All right? And have you had dinner yet? At eight

1396
01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:57,080
Speaker 5: oh five pm Eastern time?

1397
01:05:58,360 --> 01:05:58,560
Speaker 3: No?

1398
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:00,680
Speaker 5: Okay, maybe a little prot little rice.

1399
01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:03,720
Speaker 3: Tonight, love, definitely protein tonight, all right.

1400
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:09,000
Speaker 5: Nobody needs to know. Nobody gets hurt. Wow, Ray, would

1401
01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:11,960
Speaker 5: you rather get trapped in the middle of a food

1402
01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:13,880
Speaker 5: fight or a water balloon fight?

1403
01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:19,640
Speaker 3: Trapped in a food fight or a water balloon fight?

1404
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:28,280
Speaker 3: I feel pretty comfortable with either of those. But uh,

1405
01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:30,720
Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, I I'm coming, I've been

1406
01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:32,480
Speaker 3: in both. I mean that used to be a big

1407
01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:35,680
Speaker 3: thing when I went to junior high school. Food fights

1408
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 3: and just everybody going berserk. So, uh, water balloon fight

1409
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 3: either or I don't. I don't even know that they're both.

1410
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:49,080
Speaker 3: That's both. I think they're the same, nothing different.

1411
01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:52,400
Speaker 5: That's a long fucking answer. Kay, Any thoughts, I'll definitely

1412
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:56,320
Speaker 5: take the water up too. I mean, when I was

1413
01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:58,880
Speaker 5: getting hazed and I'm not even gonna say in my fraternity,

1414
01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:00,720
Speaker 5: but they poured a bunch of from anted food on

1415
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:03,200
Speaker 5: us and had to fucking sit in it. So no,

1416
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:05,800
Speaker 5: I would much rather be in a water balloon fight.

1417
01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:07,160
Speaker 5: I'll take a black eye, get wet.

1418
01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:08,920
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, but wait a minute, but they're not pouring.

1419
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:10,760
Speaker 3: I mean the food fighter is whatever you have on

1420
01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:12,000
Speaker 3: your plate, you're whipping it.

1421
01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:16,080
Speaker 5: You know, you understand? Yeah, yeah, no, you're right. It's

1422
01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:17,280
Speaker 5: not like fraternity hazing.

1423
01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:19,080
Speaker 3: I mean nobody yeah, all right, right?

1424
01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:22,280
Speaker 5: Would you rather sleep with someone on the first date

1425
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:26,600
Speaker 5: or wait for six months yet?

1426
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:27,600
Speaker 3: First date?

1427
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:29,160
Speaker 5: Kenny?

1428
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:30,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, first date?

1429
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:33,520
Speaker 5: Maybe that's a long night.

1430
01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:38,080
Speaker 3: Listen, if somebody could last six months, I'm not doing

1431
01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:41,360
Speaker 3: my job the right way that that Who the hell's

1432
01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:42,560
Speaker 3: waiting six months?

1433
01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:46,640
Speaker 5: Low testosterone not an issue for these sixty five years.

1434
01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:49,760
Speaker 3: Well, we didn't say we didn't say that.

1435
01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 5: You know, Ray, Would you rather give up your cell

1436
01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:55,400
Speaker 5: phone for a month or bathing for a month.

1437
01:07:57,080 --> 01:07:59,040
Speaker 3: I'd rather give up bathing for a month.

1438
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:01,280
Speaker 5: Get the fuck out of here?

1439
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:02,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, why not?

1440
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:06,320
Speaker 5: How many times do you? I mean, I'll shower sometimes

1441
01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:08,840
Speaker 5: like Shaquille O'Neal, three four times a day. I mean, no,

1442
01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:12,280
Speaker 5: you're gonna shower tonight or no.

1443
01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:14,480
Speaker 3: I'll shove it tonight yet.

1444
01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:17,559
Speaker 5: Okay, please, right, thank you, but just get one in

1445
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:23,160
Speaker 5: this morning. We don't need to shower before way. Your

1446
01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:30,000
Speaker 5: birthday is coming up May twenty first, May twentieth, fuck

1447
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:34,400
Speaker 5: Buffer's is the twenty first. Ooh, yours is the twentieth.

1448
01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:38,800
Speaker 5: Kenny's is the twenty sixth. Cody Bone Marrows is May fifteenth. Hey,

1449
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:42,120
Speaker 5: would you rather get gifts or money for your birthday?

1450
01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:48,360
Speaker 3: Still an old school, casious king guy, I'll take the money.

1451
01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:55,960
Speaker 5: Man, shallow answer, HALLO. Would you rather get one hundred

1452
01:08:56,040 --> 01:09:00,600
Speaker 5: dollars or one hundred one dollar lottery tickets?

1453
01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:03,479
Speaker 3: I take one hundred dollars.

1454
01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:09,519
Speaker 5: Oh, you have such a fucking curmudgeon, Jesus man, Kenny,

1455
01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:11,280
Speaker 5: I would assume you take the one hundred one dollar

1456
01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:12,040
Speaker 5: lottery tickets?

1457
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:12,240
Speaker 8: Right?

1458
01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:14,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think what.

1459
01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:17,400
Speaker 3: Is a one dollar lottery ticket? Pay you well?

1460
01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:19,720
Speaker 5: I mean no, I mean the odds aren't great, but

1461
01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:21,400
Speaker 5: I mean it's like, I mean, you need the scene

1462
01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:26,599
Speaker 5: o that badly. I mean roll the dice, you know, Ray?

1463
01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:32,440
Speaker 5: Would you rather date someone with their ex's name tattooed

1464
01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:33,160
Speaker 5: on their chest?

1465
01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:34,280
Speaker 8: Right?

1466
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:38,519
Speaker 5: So it just says fucking Joel, right, across your wife's

1467
01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:40,400
Speaker 5: just hear me out.

1468
01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:43,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, only if it says Joe was here before you,

1469
01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:46,120
Speaker 3: that's not gonna go over good.

1470
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:49,439
Speaker 5: Or would you rather just date someone whose ex lives

1471
01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:51,360
Speaker 5: next door? Right?

1472
01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:55,679
Speaker 6: Oh, that's the worst.

1473
01:09:56,439 --> 01:09:59,800
Speaker 3: Well where does the the other Rex live out of state? Right?

1474
01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 5: Fair?

1475
01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:02,920
Speaker 3: Yeah? Two?

1476
01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:05,080
Speaker 5: Or would you rather with Ray Long go live on

1477
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:07,760
Speaker 5: the ANA podcast? Again? This is just us trying to

1478
01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:10,200
Speaker 5: do right by our listeners. You know, I could take

1479
01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:12,640
Speaker 5: or leave this segment. It's them that keep asking for it.

1480
01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:16,280
Speaker 5: Would you rather feel like you know your partner better

1481
01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:20,080
Speaker 5: than anyone or feel like they surprise you every day?

1482
01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:21,400
Speaker 5: You like surprises?

1483
01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:27,080
Speaker 3: Right, I'm not a big surprise guy. All right, I'll

1484
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:28,040
Speaker 3: take number one?

1485
01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:31,599
Speaker 5: All right? And last question, Ray? Would you rather take

1486
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:39,599
Speaker 5: a take take amazing selfies? I mean, do you even

1487
01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:40,360
Speaker 5: take selfies?

1488
01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:41,519
Speaker 7: On?

1489
01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:46,360
Speaker 3: Could you control this guy? Is there any talking to him?

1490
01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:49,960
Speaker 5: I'm dieing? Would you rather take amazing selfies but look

1491
01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:53,280
Speaker 5: terrible in all other photos? Or be photogenic everywhere but

1492
01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:58,800
Speaker 5: in your selfies it's a joke. I love you, You

1493
01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:05,200
Speaker 5: don't have to answer it. Ship than mind just melted.

1494
01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:11,880
Speaker 3: Guys, You have a great, great night. We will see

1495
01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:15,040
Speaker 3: you who's cool in the fight with you this week?

1496
01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:18,000
Speaker 5: I believe it's Daniel Cormier and Domina Cruz.

1497
01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:22,400
Speaker 3: Oh beautiful, all right, listen, good luck, don't upset anybody

1498
01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:25,920
Speaker 3: over there, ask the right questions. Please, don't piss anybody off.

1499
01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:29,000
Speaker 5: Thanks for uh yeah, I can't that line now long

1500
01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:33,360
Speaker 5: ago suggests lack of objectivity and booth.

1501
01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 3: So yeah, take it easy, but we'll see you.

1502
01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:43,880
Speaker 5: You're right. Three Name Jack Three named Jack get in

1503
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Speaker 5: On the UFC three fifteen prelim portion. American Top Team

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Speaker 5: Von Ersulin? All right, let's hear Ivon Ivan Erslan.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 5: As we go three wide for the main event challenge,

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Speaker 5: whoa you look good? I mean, did you cut your

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Speaker 5: hair again?

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Speaker 6: I did? Yeah, the side got cut. The side guy

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Speaker 6: got a little bit. They did, they did.

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Speaker 5: Of course they did. All well, all I met a flattop?

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Speaker 6: Is that an official flatop?

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Speaker 3: Or no?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean we can call whatever we want. But

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Speaker 6: I think, you know, my wife's like, hey, let me

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Speaker 6: just fade the sides, and so it's like, yeah, do

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Speaker 6: what you gotta do. So I'm just like guinea pigs.

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Speaker 6: He does what you want.

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Speaker 5: Right in about thirty seconds. How do you sort of

1568
01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:50,120
Speaker 5: quantify this setback if you can call it that for

1569
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Speaker 6: So I had, I drove to some family in Georgetown,

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Speaker 6: Kentucky today. It's about hour away from Cincinnati, and I'm

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Speaker 6: not idea the whole time I thought about that. It's

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Speaker 6: it's it's huge for me, right, Bo Nichols, such a big,

1574
01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:08,639
Speaker 6: big part of I was so excited, still aim excited,

1575
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Speaker 6: but seeing the fraud check, seeing all the fans turn

1576
01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:14,920
Speaker 6: on him, it's hard to ignore. I still think he

1577
01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:17,400
Speaker 6: can do good things, but it was a really ugly

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Speaker 6: fight for him for being honestly that he didn't make

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Speaker 6: any adjustments on the feet or otherwise. And listen, he's

1580
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Speaker 6: going against the rider who's unbelievable. But it was a

1581
01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:28,920
Speaker 6: tough pill to swallow. I've rewatched it since then. It

1582
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Speaker 6: was like a nightmare, Like I'm gonna face my nightmares again.

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Speaker 6: It's not a lot of money on Bonneckle, and it's

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Speaker 6: it's uglier the second time to watch him. Yeah, it

1585
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Speaker 6: really is.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think I do exceedingly well if I

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Speaker 5: was allowed to wager on combat sports all right, Montreal, Quebec, Canada,

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Speaker 5: UFC three fifteen Muhammad versus Della Mattelena. My tickets this

1589
01:15:48,120 --> 01:15:50,320
Speaker 5: weekend are going to our producer, Cody Merrow. By the way,

1590
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Speaker 5: Who's cool Sportal? First pick for us will be a

1591
01:15:54,160 --> 01:15:57,439
Speaker 5: preliminary bout in the women's flyweight division. Ray will start

1592
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Speaker 5: with you Jazz Been Jazz, the Busiest, Modest Jessica andraje

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01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:06,640
Speaker 5: plus two thirty so Jazz the Busiest, streaking out of

1594
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Speaker 5: the wrestling heavy camp Niagara Top Team, thirty six years

1595
01:16:09,479 --> 01:16:12,200
Speaker 5: of Old Times. Kind of gotta be now Briy, but

1596
01:16:12,280 --> 01:16:14,000
Speaker 5: she's seven to two in the UFC and now getting

1597
01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:16,280
Speaker 5: a former champion for the first time. Your thoughts on

1598
01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:19,280
Speaker 5: her here near three to one against andraje.

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Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, she's kind of carrying the flag for female

1600
01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:24,160
Speaker 6: MMA in Canada unless you add Lupy gunn As. I

1601
01:16:24,160 --> 01:16:26,519
Speaker 6: mean Lupy I know reps Canada sometimes as well. But

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01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:28,439
Speaker 6: Jazzmin's look good. I mean, she's been up and down

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01:16:28,439 --> 01:16:30,640
Speaker 6: and the lately she's been finding what she wants to do,

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01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:33,840
Speaker 6: and that's bully women. Bully girls, take him down, beat

1605
01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:35,720
Speaker 6: him up. That's her game and she's good at it,

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01:16:36,479 --> 01:16:38,759
Speaker 6: and that's what Androg just struggles at Jesscon and Drodge,

1607
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:41,080
Speaker 6: who I love, one of my favorite fighters. She struggles

1608
01:16:41,080 --> 01:16:42,840
Speaker 6: when she gets put on the on her back, right,

1609
01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:44,960
Speaker 6: it's not the easiest to get her there, but when

1610
01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:47,640
Speaker 6: she's there, it's it's kind of stagnant. She doesn't like

1611
01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:50,479
Speaker 6: to get, you know, transfer up, thrust missions, try to

1612
01:16:50,479 --> 01:16:53,280
Speaker 6: work a way up. But for some reason, I'm stubborn.

1613
01:16:53,360 --> 01:16:55,280
Speaker 6: I can't when I see Jessica and Jodge at plus

1614
01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:57,360
Speaker 6: two something, you know what is it? Plus two thirty?

1615
01:16:57,439 --> 01:16:59,559
Speaker 6: Right now on DraftKings, I can't ignore that. I gotta

1616
01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:02,080
Speaker 6: go with experience. I gotta go with the power of Andrage.

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01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:05,000
Speaker 6: I know we're in Canada and the crowd's gonna behind Jasmine,

1618
01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:06,559
Speaker 6: and she's on a hot roll right now. This might

1619
01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:09,200
Speaker 6: be a dumb pick, but Jessica and Draws is gonna

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01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:12,160
Speaker 6: get my pick. Ange'll get my money here. Experience and

1621
01:17:12,200 --> 01:17:14,120
Speaker 6: power really really trumps a lot of the things that

1622
01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:16,960
Speaker 6: Jazzmine has going for right now. So I'm a sucker

1623
01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:19,200
Speaker 6: for it. But give me Jessica Andros.

1624
01:17:18,920 --> 01:17:21,920
Speaker 5: Andrage seventeen and eleven in the UFC can Flow. She's

1625
01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:25,440
Speaker 5: still only thirty three. Made her debut in twenty thirteen,

1626
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:29,439
Speaker 5: the first year women were permitted to compete in the UFC.

1627
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:32,680
Speaker 5: She won the straweight title in twenty nineteen. Seems like

1628
01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:36,040
Speaker 5: it's gonna be flyweight for now for andraj comes in

1629
01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:37,800
Speaker 5: having won two of her last three year. Thoughts on

1630
01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:40,439
Speaker 5: her here plus two thirty against Jazz Divisias. Yeah, I

1631
01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:42,120
Speaker 5: thought BP did a great breakdown.

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Speaker 7: You know, I don't think jazz hands Jasmine jazz a divisius.

1633
01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:48,519
Speaker 6: Jazz divicious? Is that what it is?

1634
01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:51,720
Speaker 5: Jazz divisius. We've done it so many times on the

1635
01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:54,720
Speaker 5: pastage of the week. It looks nothing like, nothing like

1636
01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:57,000
Speaker 5: just suit of visious.

1637
01:17:57,080 --> 01:17:58,000
Speaker 6: I like jazz hands.

1638
01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:00,680
Speaker 5: That's great, that is good. If I can drop a

1639
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:02,960
Speaker 5: jazz hands, is that new for today? We're gonna drop

1640
01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:06,880
Speaker 5: a jazz hands on pay per view, Dude, I like

1641
01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:09,120
Speaker 5: jazz hands man. I think she's gonna be the better

1642
01:18:09,160 --> 01:18:10,519
Speaker 5: grappling here, but she does.

1643
01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:12,439
Speaker 7: Have to worry about the power on the feet though

1644
01:18:12,439 --> 01:18:15,880
Speaker 7: from morage, I think that that that is a real threat.

1645
01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:18,519
Speaker 7: But I think her ability to get to that clinch,

1646
01:18:19,080 --> 01:18:22,280
Speaker 7: especially if she's if she finds success early on, I

1647
01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:24,920
Speaker 7: like her chances that much better. If Androge gets off

1648
01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:27,519
Speaker 7: to a good start, it could go downhill pretty pretty

1649
01:18:27,560 --> 01:18:29,520
Speaker 7: fast for Jazz Divicious.

1650
01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:30,639
Speaker 5: Did I say that correctly?

1651
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:31,200
Speaker 6: Anyway?

1652
01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:32,840
Speaker 5: Jazz hands, I like jazz hands.

1653
01:18:33,479 --> 01:18:35,120
Speaker 7: Put money on jazz hands now, I don't know if

1654
01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:36,840
Speaker 7: I'm gonna put money on jazz hands, but I like

1655
01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:37,519
Speaker 7: jazz hands.

1656
01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:39,519
Speaker 5: I like saying jazze.

1657
01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:41,200
Speaker 6: I like hearing you say I like it.

1658
01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:45,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean forget objectivity for me. In the main event,

1659
01:18:45,320 --> 01:18:49,240
Speaker 5: I'm gonna have a hard time when Jazz Divisius and

1660
01:18:49,320 --> 01:18:54,680
Speaker 5: as Cody points out, imagine buff going Jasmine jazz hands,

1661
01:18:55,479 --> 01:18:55,840
Speaker 5: all right.

1662
01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:57,920
Speaker 6: I like jazz hands at the horny zoning.

1663
01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:01,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I mean if she knocks her out one

1664
01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:04,920
Speaker 5: hundred percent. Fucking jazz DJ Jase Jeff was the other

1665
01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:05,559
Speaker 5: one I was gonna go.

1666
01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:07,960
Speaker 6: I like jazz hens all right.

1667
01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:13,160
Speaker 5: Featured prelim at welterweight jazz Hands his teammate crop of

1668
01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:17,280
Speaker 5: Mike Malott minus two twenty five taken on Charles Radkey

1669
01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:19,479
Speaker 5: plus one eighty five. Hey, brid do you know where

1670
01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:20,400
Speaker 5: Malott was born?

1671
01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:23,960
Speaker 6: Let's just say Boston, right, Cleveland, Ohio?

1672
01:19:24,520 --> 01:19:24,640
Speaker 3: Hi?

1673
01:19:25,439 --> 01:19:27,639
Speaker 6: Okay, nice, let's.

1674
01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:30,800
Speaker 5: Carry the flag. Born in fucking Cleveland. No, I'm just kidding, Mike, Yeah,

1675
01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:34,880
Speaker 5: just kidding. He proudly of course. Reps Burlington, Ontario, Canada.

1676
01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:36,720
Speaker 5: He's four and one in the UFC. He is very

1677
01:19:36,800 --> 01:19:40,280
Speaker 5: much Canadian and uh he beat Trevin Giles last November.

1678
01:19:40,320 --> 01:19:43,000
Speaker 5: Spins it forward in a big spot this weekend against

1679
01:19:43,479 --> 01:19:45,639
Speaker 5: Chuck Buffalo BP taken away.

1680
01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:48,240
Speaker 6: Listen, if I was born in Cleveland, I wrapped Canada too.

1681
01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:51,599
Speaker 6: Yeah you're not. You're not far off there, miket Cleveland's

1682
01:19:51,680 --> 01:19:54,920
Speaker 6: dumb Listen. I I love this fight. This fight is

1683
01:19:55,080 --> 01:19:56,200
Speaker 6: tough to pick.

1684
01:19:56,200 --> 01:19:56,240
Speaker 3: It.

1685
01:19:56,320 --> 01:19:58,519
Speaker 6: Willly was hard because I love Chuck Buffalo, who I

1686
01:19:58,600 --> 01:20:01,040
Speaker 6: thought had the best nickname in the so jazz hands

1687
01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:03,639
Speaker 6: got introduced to me. So now he's playing for second here.

1688
01:20:03,680 --> 01:20:06,360
Speaker 6: But he's a gritty, grimy dude. He got you know,

1689
01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:09,400
Speaker 6: he got put down. He got clipped bad and put

1690
01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:11,560
Speaker 6: down by college protests with that body shot. It was

1691
01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:13,880
Speaker 6: absolutely nasty. But he rebound it well and look good

1692
01:20:14,160 --> 01:20:16,479
Speaker 6: against Ellensburger. And this is a dude who's nails in there.

1693
01:20:16,520 --> 01:20:18,759
Speaker 6: He really is. He goes after it and Mike Mullatt

1694
01:20:18,920 --> 01:20:21,479
Speaker 6: is really really pretty. I'll get all these first round finishes.

1695
01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:24,360
Speaker 6: Then he runs into Neil Magni, which he looked dominated,

1696
01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:26,559
Speaker 6: but he got magnet right. It was a third round.

1697
01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:29,439
Speaker 6: He slowed down and that's what happens. We're not prepared

1698
01:20:29,439 --> 01:20:31,519
Speaker 6: for that. But then he rebound it well and win

1699
01:20:31,560 --> 01:20:34,280
Speaker 6: a hard three his last amount and gotta win over

1700
01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:37,080
Speaker 6: Trevn Giles, who again is a solid, solid guy, and

1701
01:20:37,160 --> 01:20:39,479
Speaker 6: get a good win over I like Malat here. You know,

1702
01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:41,400
Speaker 6: this is a really tough fight from men pick because

1703
01:20:41,520 --> 01:20:43,560
Speaker 6: I love the number on Chuck Buffalo, but Malat I

1704
01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:45,880
Speaker 6: think's gonna have the crowd. I do think he's really

1705
01:20:45,880 --> 01:20:47,960
Speaker 6: good he has good skills, and if you clean up

1706
01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:49,640
Speaker 6: that cardion and you really mix in the cardio with

1707
01:20:49,640 --> 01:20:52,120
Speaker 6: the experience with those skills that he has. Because he's

1708
01:20:52,200 --> 01:20:54,320
Speaker 6: dangerous on the ground and on the feet, that could

1709
01:20:54,360 --> 01:20:55,800
Speaker 6: be a problem for a guy like Buffalo, who I

1710
01:20:55,840 --> 01:20:58,120
Speaker 6: think is a guy that's just gonna kind of tough

1711
01:20:58,160 --> 01:21:00,080
Speaker 6: through some things here. And I think the technique is

1712
01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:02,080
Speaker 6: going to show out for Mike Malott. So I like

1713
01:21:02,120 --> 01:21:04,320
Speaker 6: Mike Mallott, even though the numbers a little chunky for me,

1714
01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:06,799
Speaker 6: I'll go to the Canadian nicely done.

1715
01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:10,919
Speaker 5: I like he's as a guy like Buffalo, right shots

1716
01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:13,600
Speaker 5: the chuck like Buffalo's his surname. Yeah, there's not a

1717
01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:17,400
Speaker 5: better nickname than Chuck Buffalo. Good Charles Radkey Canny plus

1718
01:21:17,400 --> 01:21:19,680
Speaker 5: one eighty five. Perhaps some intrigue there or are you

1719
01:21:19,720 --> 01:21:22,520
Speaker 5: going with a local so to speak? And Mike Mallott.

1720
01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:24,240
Speaker 6: I think there's intrigue there.

1721
01:21:24,280 --> 01:21:27,519
Speaker 7: I think Radkey is a very slick striker when he's

1722
01:21:27,520 --> 01:21:30,599
Speaker 7: on his game. Man, I think he carries the power,

1723
01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:32,680
Speaker 7: carries the technique to be able to take someone like

1724
01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:36,920
Speaker 7: Mike Mallott out. But you know, Mike, if he gets

1725
01:21:36,920 --> 01:21:39,120
Speaker 7: off to a good start, is able to establish the range.

1726
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:42,000
Speaker 7: If he's able to back up Charles, I think that

1727
01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:44,800
Speaker 7: he could definitely win this fight, not only with uh,

1728
01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:47,519
Speaker 7: you know, some selective striking, but also with his ground game.

1729
01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:50,360
Speaker 7: I think that's where he can really uh you know,

1730
01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:53,400
Speaker 7: get the better of Radkey here. I don't think it's

1731
01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:54,960
Speaker 7: gonna be easy for him to take him to take

1732
01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:58,160
Speaker 7: him down. I also think sometimes Mike gets caught trading

1733
01:21:58,200 --> 01:22:01,320
Speaker 7: and and and tries to out tough guys sometimes, which

1734
01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:03,960
Speaker 7: may not go well against someone like rad Kiet. I

1735
01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:06,400
Speaker 7: don't know if it's worth putting money on this, but

1736
01:22:07,120 --> 01:22:08,360
Speaker 7: I'm gonna go with Radke here.

1737
01:22:09,120 --> 01:22:12,599
Speaker 5: Radke also a jiu jitsu black belt. Incidentally, Yeah, he's

1738
01:22:12,600 --> 01:22:15,920
Speaker 5: got powers, got an attitude, only blemish in the UFC

1739
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:19,280
Speaker 5: to Carlos protests. We'll see if he can ovoid a

1740
01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:22,200
Speaker 5: second UFC loss against ma Loot. All Right, main card

1741
01:22:22,240 --> 01:22:26,040
Speaker 5: opener is still TBD. It was gonna be Ben was

1742
01:22:26,200 --> 01:22:29,840
Speaker 5: Anthony versus Joel Alvarez. We're waiting on a potential replacement

1743
01:22:29,880 --> 01:22:32,599
Speaker 5: for Alvarez. So got four pay per view main card

1744
01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:35,160
Speaker 5: for the Fellows to dissect for you today, first of

1745
01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:39,160
Speaker 5: which comes your way in the women's flyweight division. Moving

1746
01:22:39,240 --> 01:22:41,680
Speaker 5: night in this division title of course gonna be on

1747
01:22:41,720 --> 01:22:44,080
Speaker 5: the line later on this night. This one Briy the

1748
01:22:44,080 --> 01:22:47,000
Speaker 5: shrieking to tell youa Silva minus two eighteen against the

1749
01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:48,960
Speaker 5: former champ, a Lexa Grosso plus one eighty.

1750
01:22:49,400 --> 01:22:51,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, I actually really liked his fight. For Grosso, I

1751
01:22:51,479 --> 01:22:53,080
Speaker 6: was surprised that she was this kind of big of

1752
01:22:53,080 --> 01:22:54,960
Speaker 6: a dog. I know Silva is on a run right

1753
01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:58,680
Speaker 6: now and she's looked fantastic, but Grosso's really only her

1754
01:22:58,760 --> 01:23:01,280
Speaker 6: last losses against the team, right and then before that

1755
01:23:01,360 --> 01:23:03,640
Speaker 6: she beat the champs a split decision before that, and

1756
01:23:03,680 --> 01:23:06,400
Speaker 6: then she got clean, clean swept the last time out. However,

1757
01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:09,200
Speaker 6: a lot of those were happening because of grappling. Jeff

1758
01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:11,840
Speaker 6: Tanko really grapplerr put her on her back and just

1759
01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:14,840
Speaker 6: shut down Grasso. Grosso is a good grappler when she's

1760
01:23:14,880 --> 01:23:16,840
Speaker 6: on top, but she's also a very good striker. Her

1761
01:23:16,840 --> 01:23:20,080
Speaker 6: boxing is pretty clean. Silva's gonna wanna want to want

1762
01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:22,479
Speaker 6: to strike with with Grosso here, so I think it's

1763
01:23:22,479 --> 01:23:24,320
Speaker 6: gonna kind of wipe out the grappling. I think both

1764
01:23:24,360 --> 01:23:26,320
Speaker 6: these females are gonna go at it on the feet

1765
01:23:26,560 --> 01:23:28,839
Speaker 6: and with Grosso giving the plus money. Having the experience

1766
01:23:28,840 --> 01:23:31,120
Speaker 6: of being a former champion, so Tenco's fighting in the card,

1767
01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:33,479
Speaker 6: She's motivated to want to get back there seeing you

1768
01:23:33,479 --> 01:23:35,800
Speaker 6: know what's gonna happen. I like Grosslo. I think this

1769
01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:38,519
Speaker 6: is a proper push up for Silva. I love the

1770
01:23:38,560 --> 01:23:41,040
Speaker 6: matchmaking in this fight. I just think Grosso is gonna

1771
01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:42,519
Speaker 6: have the edge on the feet. I think she's gonna

1772
01:23:42,560 --> 01:23:44,320
Speaker 6: want it more when it comes to that third round.

1773
01:23:44,320 --> 01:23:46,000
Speaker 6: I think she's gonna be able to push a little

1774
01:23:46,040 --> 01:23:47,760
Speaker 6: harder and knows what it takes to get get a

1775
01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:50,320
Speaker 6: win here. Wouldn't be surprised if Silva wins at all.

1776
01:23:50,520 --> 01:23:52,120
Speaker 6: I think she's an elite lait level and this is

1777
01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:54,200
Speaker 6: what she belongs. Yeah, but give me the former chance,

1778
01:23:54,200 --> 01:23:55,679
Speaker 6: give me Alexa Grosso the plus money.

1779
01:23:55,800 --> 01:23:58,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, nice handicap, and I like the angle of competing

1780
01:23:58,520 --> 01:24:01,439
Speaker 5: on the card on which ship Chain is fighting Minol Right,

1781
01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:03,880
Speaker 5: she's gonna, I think, have no choice but to fight

1782
01:24:03,960 --> 01:24:06,160
Speaker 5: like a bad out of hellcatfrole against Silva, who is

1783
01:24:06,200 --> 01:24:08,720
Speaker 5: the favorite, who is the younger fighter who has won

1784
01:24:08,760 --> 01:24:11,040
Speaker 5: twelve in a row, twenty eight years of age out

1785
01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:13,120
Speaker 5: of Minis jedis Brazil. She is six to zero in

1786
01:24:13,160 --> 01:24:17,120
Speaker 5: the UFC and now taking on the former champion Alexa Grosso.

1787
01:24:17,640 --> 01:24:20,400
Speaker 7: I think there's some good value for grasshow right now,

1788
01:24:20,479 --> 01:24:22,559
Speaker 7: especially given the fact that you know she has had

1789
01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:27,520
Speaker 7: a couple of really tough fights, right She's taken on Chevchenko, however,

1790
01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:30,960
Speaker 7: and going back and watching a lot of Natalia Silva's fights,

1791
01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:35,080
Speaker 7: this is not your everyday striker. In my opinion, I

1792
01:24:35,120 --> 01:24:38,639
Speaker 7: think she just might be the best striker in that division. Yes,

1793
01:24:38,680 --> 01:24:42,120
Speaker 7: that includes Chevchenko. I think she's that good. Her speed

1794
01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:46,560
Speaker 7: is something else, the way that she puts together, her combinations,

1795
01:24:46,600 --> 01:24:51,080
Speaker 7: her footwork, her takedown defense. I think we'll come into

1796
01:24:51,080 --> 01:24:53,280
Speaker 7: play here against Grasso because I think she's the better

1797
01:24:53,320 --> 01:24:55,479
Speaker 7: striker here. I think Grasse is going to try to

1798
01:24:55,520 --> 01:24:57,880
Speaker 7: put her on her back. Grossow has a much better

1799
01:24:57,960 --> 01:25:00,640
Speaker 7: chance there against Silva if Silva's on her back. But

1800
01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:03,719
Speaker 7: I think Silva is athletic enough to stop those takedowns.

1801
01:25:04,080 --> 01:25:07,280
Speaker 7: Gressel's takedowns isn't necessarily her strength. I like to Talia

1802
01:25:07,320 --> 01:25:09,320
Speaker 7: Silvia here, and I like her big, and I think

1803
01:25:09,400 --> 01:25:11,000
Speaker 7: she may have the belt in.

1804
01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:12,559
Speaker 5: The future as well. I think she's that good. I

1805
01:25:12,680 --> 01:25:15,639
Speaker 5: PRAI can plow bullish on Natalia Silvia. You're right, power

1806
01:25:15,720 --> 01:25:18,280
Speaker 5: speed technique. She is the total package and trying to

1807
01:25:18,280 --> 01:25:20,479
Speaker 5: prove it to the world. But Johnny Avello and the

1808
01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:23,000
Speaker 5: odds makers certainly paying attention. All right, Right back to

1809
01:25:23,080 --> 01:25:26,360
Speaker 5: ken Flow here for a featured bout in the bantamweight division.

1810
01:25:27,240 --> 01:25:30,960
Speaker 5: Jose Aldo minus two eighteen Amon's a hobby plus one

1811
01:25:31,080 --> 01:25:34,080
Speaker 5: eighty little background for you, Ken Flow doesn't need it.

1812
01:25:34,120 --> 01:25:37,080
Speaker 5: Aldo inducted into the UFC Hall of Fame Class of

1813
01:25:37,120 --> 01:25:40,120
Speaker 5: twenty twenty three. Return to competition less than a year later,

1814
01:25:40,160 --> 01:25:43,880
Speaker 5: went over Jonathan Martinez, then lost to Mario Bautista UFC

1815
01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:47,280
Speaker 5: three zero seven last October. Now, Kenny, he gets your

1816
01:25:47,320 --> 01:25:50,080
Speaker 5: former teammate Amons, a hobby in the Great White North,

1817
01:25:50,120 --> 01:25:53,080
Speaker 5: who was prominent in your preparation for Jose Audo, whom

1818
01:25:53,120 --> 01:25:55,360
Speaker 5: you fought for the UFC featherweight title in your retirement

1819
01:25:55,360 --> 01:25:58,200
Speaker 5: fight in twenty eleven. I know you will be eyes

1820
01:25:58,320 --> 01:26:02,160
Speaker 5: peeled for Aldo. Visa. Forced to make a pick? Who

1821
01:26:02,160 --> 01:26:04,880
Speaker 5: do you like? Yeah, well, I love watching Jose Aldo fight.

1822
01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:09,559
Speaker 7: He's such a technician, and I'm really proud of Aiman Zahabi, who,

1823
01:26:09,840 --> 01:26:12,559
Speaker 7: as you mentioned, I trained with back a long time ago.

1824
01:26:12,600 --> 01:26:15,280
Speaker 7: And I think this is an awesome opportunity for him

1825
01:26:15,320 --> 01:26:18,880
Speaker 7: to face a real mixed martial arts legend in Jose Aldo.

1826
01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:20,760
Speaker 7: And and this is gonna be a tough fight for

1827
01:26:20,840 --> 01:26:24,320
Speaker 7: both guys. I think that Jose Aldo at times has

1828
01:26:24,360 --> 01:26:28,040
Speaker 7: struggled later in fights, especially when a fast pace has

1829
01:26:28,080 --> 01:26:31,280
Speaker 7: been kept up by his opponent. And I also think

1830
01:26:31,320 --> 01:26:33,439
Speaker 7: you need to be able to take away that space

1831
01:26:33,439 --> 01:26:37,160
Speaker 7: against Jose Aldo. That's no easy task, especially when he's

1832
01:26:37,280 --> 01:26:40,360
Speaker 7: kicking well and when he's establishing that very educated jab

1833
01:26:40,400 --> 01:26:44,800
Speaker 7: that he that he has. So for Aiman, I think

1834
01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:48,920
Speaker 7: it's it's a winnable fight. But the paths to victory

1835
01:26:48,960 --> 01:26:53,240
Speaker 7: for Aman are all very different, very difficult roads. So

1836
01:26:53,320 --> 01:26:55,200
Speaker 7: I think he's gonna have to use everything in order

1837
01:26:55,240 --> 01:26:57,720
Speaker 7: to do it. But I think he will find a way.

1838
01:26:58,000 --> 01:27:00,920
Speaker 7: I think as Zahabi's pressure, the fact that he has

1839
01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:05,000
Speaker 7: a lot of power and could hurt Jose Aldo, and

1840
01:27:05,040 --> 01:27:07,240
Speaker 7: the fact that he doesn't have as many miles as

1841
01:27:07,320 --> 01:27:10,479
Speaker 7: Jose Aldo right now, So give me Avid's a hobby

1842
01:27:10,479 --> 01:27:10,760
Speaker 7: for the win.

1843
01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:14,679
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's very interesting, nicely laid out can flow. Aldo

1844
01:27:14,720 --> 01:27:17,439
Speaker 5: will be thirty nine in September's Hobby's only about a

1845
01:27:17,560 --> 01:27:21,680
Speaker 5: year younger, but the MMA miles tell a different story. Brian, So,

1846
01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:24,200
Speaker 5: Hobby's won five in a row, dating to a twenty

1847
01:27:24,280 --> 01:27:26,720
Speaker 5: nineteen loss to Vince Morales, all serving to set up

1848
01:27:27,120 --> 01:27:28,640
Speaker 5: the biggest fight of his career. How do you think

1849
01:27:28,680 --> 01:27:30,120
Speaker 5: he handles the spotlight?

1850
01:27:30,400 --> 01:27:32,479
Speaker 6: Yeah, so when you first see these guys lined up,

1851
01:27:32,520 --> 01:27:34,719
Speaker 6: you know, my first instinct is, wow, Joseada is pretty

1852
01:27:34,720 --> 01:27:37,519
Speaker 6: good value here. Jado's Josato, right, And I feel like

1853
01:27:37,560 --> 01:27:38,960
Speaker 6: a lot of people think that, But when you take

1854
01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:40,960
Speaker 6: a deeper look in, and of course I do. And

1855
01:27:41,000 --> 01:27:43,000
Speaker 6: it's funny. When I went and really capped as a

1856
01:27:43,040 --> 01:27:45,280
Speaker 6: hobby here, I found a couple old videos on YouTube,

1857
01:27:45,320 --> 01:27:47,599
Speaker 6: some bits that they did where they're like treating Kenny

1858
01:27:47,640 --> 01:27:49,800
Speaker 6: like a king and they're doing like they're like, oh, Kenny,

1859
01:27:49,880 --> 01:27:51,720
Speaker 6: let us sleep here. In is like fifteen guys to

1860
01:27:51,760 --> 01:27:54,080
Speaker 6: a room and this is Kenny's private room. This is

1861
01:27:54,120 --> 01:27:56,280
Speaker 6: his other room. He likes to change in this room.

1862
01:27:56,520 --> 01:27:58,439
Speaker 6: Do you, Kenny, do you remember filming all that stuff?

1863
01:27:58,840 --> 01:27:58,920
Speaker 5: Like?

1864
01:27:59,320 --> 01:28:01,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, I caught that. It was funny. It was a

1865
01:28:01,320 --> 01:28:03,760
Speaker 6: preparation of Kenny getting ready for Aldo. And it's cool

1866
01:28:03,800 --> 01:28:05,720
Speaker 6: seeing Aman now in that spot and I think he's

1867
01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:08,000
Speaker 6: got one of the greatest minds in his brother to

1868
01:28:08,120 --> 01:28:10,360
Speaker 6: prepare him for this. That's the thing about Josey Auto

1869
01:28:10,520 --> 01:28:13,519
Speaker 6: is guys like Aiman have been getting Kenny ready for it,

1870
01:28:13,560 --> 01:28:15,760
Speaker 6: and he's been dreaming about a fighting a guy like

1871
01:28:15,800 --> 01:28:18,519
Speaker 6: Audo and Aado's gonna have that with anybody fights, so

1872
01:28:18,640 --> 01:28:20,280
Speaker 6: they know what they want to do. It's just a

1873
01:28:20,360 --> 01:28:22,080
Speaker 6: matter are they going to show up and is our

1874
01:28:22,080 --> 01:28:24,280
Speaker 6: body allow them to do that? And I think Aiman

1875
01:28:24,320 --> 01:28:26,360
Speaker 6: looked really good. I think the one thing I would

1876
01:28:26,360 --> 01:28:29,280
Speaker 6: critique about him going throughout his career except his last fight,

1877
01:28:29,400 --> 01:28:31,400
Speaker 6: was the volume just wasn't there for me. He landed

1878
01:28:31,439 --> 01:28:35,320
Speaker 6: a hundred strikes against Pedro Munoz was in the firefight

1879
01:28:35,360 --> 01:28:36,840
Speaker 6: most of the time, and he's slick when he gets

1880
01:28:36,840 --> 01:28:38,439
Speaker 6: in there, and he was laying a lot of strikes

1881
01:28:38,600 --> 01:28:40,479
Speaker 6: without I think that's what you gotta do. You have

1882
01:28:40,560 --> 01:28:43,320
Speaker 6: to hit Auto. You have to keep constantly hitting him

1883
01:28:43,360 --> 01:28:45,160
Speaker 6: out striking him. You can't stare at him and be

1884
01:28:45,240 --> 01:28:47,320
Speaker 6: in all get your legs kick off. That's gonna be

1885
01:28:47,360 --> 01:28:50,120
Speaker 6: a problem. Grappling, I think is gonna be neutral. I

1886
01:28:50,240 --> 01:28:51,840
Speaker 6: like the hobby here as well. I knew Kenny was

1887
01:28:51,880 --> 01:28:54,559
Speaker 6: gonna come of maybe lean towards the hobby. I want

1888
01:28:54,600 --> 01:28:55,920
Speaker 6: to get away from that. I want to give the

1889
01:28:55,960 --> 01:28:58,000
Speaker 6: people maybe something else to pick if they're riding Kenny

1890
01:28:58,080 --> 01:29:00,000
Speaker 6: or me. But I'm on the hobby. I think it's

1891
01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:01,680
Speaker 6: it's a great number. I think the guy's gonna get

1892
01:29:01,680 --> 01:29:03,760
Speaker 6: it done with it by a decision as well. I

1893
01:29:03,760 --> 01:29:05,040
Speaker 6: think it's gonna be a good fight. But I think

1894
01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:07,439
Speaker 6: ultimately he's gonna have a game plan. He's gonna have

1895
01:29:07,479 --> 01:29:10,200
Speaker 6: the skills to be able to confuse and frustrate Joe's

1896
01:29:10,240 --> 01:29:12,360
Speaker 6: out and out outpoint him in this spot.

1897
01:29:12,880 --> 01:29:17,679
Speaker 5: All right Comin event Women's Flyweight Championship, we list betting favorites.

1898
01:29:17,720 --> 01:29:21,080
Speaker 5: First challenger Minaud Fuel minus won fifty five. Valancina Chipchenko

1899
01:29:21,120 --> 01:29:26,120
Speaker 5: plus one thirty, the long overdue French Beast finally getting

1900
01:29:26,120 --> 01:29:28,040
Speaker 5: her crack at the gold. She's seven to zero. The

1901
01:29:28,080 --> 01:29:31,320
Speaker 5: UFC Brye Debude with the stoppage of Victoria Leonardo in

1902
01:29:31,360 --> 01:29:34,920
Speaker 5: twenty twenty one, hasn't stopped winning since. Now on Deniable,

1903
01:29:34,920 --> 01:29:36,240
Speaker 5: We'll see what she has for the future Hall of

1904
01:29:36,280 --> 01:29:37,880
Speaker 5: Famer this weekend. Who do you like?

1905
01:29:38,120 --> 01:29:39,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, I've been a fan of Manon for for a

1906
01:29:39,920 --> 01:29:42,240
Speaker 6: long time. I've I've uttered the words she'll be a

1907
01:29:42,320 --> 01:29:44,439
Speaker 6: champion one day, and I think that one day is Saturday.

1908
01:29:44,439 --> 01:29:47,839
Speaker 6: I think she's gonna win here. Shatanko, there's no knocker Chotanko.

1909
01:29:47,880 --> 01:29:50,200
Speaker 6: I think she's fantastic. But Shipchenko is doing now in

1910
01:29:50,240 --> 01:29:54,280
Speaker 6: her career is kind of slowing it down for herself,

1911
01:29:54,400 --> 01:29:56,640
Speaker 6: taking some of the striking opportunities away and getting the

1912
01:29:56,680 --> 01:29:58,439
Speaker 6: fight to the ground. She's a big, strong girl for

1913
01:29:58,520 --> 01:30:01,640
Speaker 6: that division. Enter On who is bigger and stronger in

1914
01:30:01,640 --> 01:30:04,120
Speaker 6: my opinion, after what she did to Aaron Blanchfield, who

1915
01:30:04,160 --> 01:30:05,960
Speaker 6: I know might be a tad on her size but

1916
01:30:06,080 --> 01:30:09,639
Speaker 6: is a physically strong grappler chucking her left and right,

1917
01:30:09,800 --> 01:30:12,599
Speaker 6: wasn't even entertaining that and outworked her, outpointed or beat

1918
01:30:12,640 --> 01:30:15,120
Speaker 6: her up on the feet. You got two fantastic strikers

1919
01:30:15,280 --> 01:30:17,200
Speaker 6: who have learned to grapple really well, and I just

1920
01:30:17,240 --> 01:30:21,000
Speaker 6: think Manan has the better strength, and I think she

1921
01:30:21,120 --> 01:30:23,800
Speaker 6: might be a little bit more potent on the feet

1922
01:30:23,800 --> 01:30:25,640
Speaker 6: as well when it comes to the striking, especially with

1923
01:30:25,640 --> 01:30:27,519
Speaker 6: the hands. I think Valentine has got some really good kicks.

1924
01:30:27,600 --> 01:30:29,280
Speaker 6: I think Manon's got some really good hands. I think

1925
01:30:29,280 --> 01:30:31,080
Speaker 6: that's gonna make the difference here. I won't even be

1926
01:30:31,120 --> 01:30:33,519
Speaker 6: surprised that Mononau gets a finish in this spot. That's

1927
01:30:33,520 --> 01:30:35,240
Speaker 6: something I might be looking for later in the week

1928
01:30:35,280 --> 01:30:37,720
Speaker 6: when when the props open up. But for right now,

1929
01:30:37,720 --> 01:30:39,360
Speaker 6: I think it's a new baby. I think Monona fail,

1930
01:30:39,439 --> 01:30:41,679
Speaker 6: it's going to get it done CaMV.

1931
01:30:41,760 --> 01:30:43,479
Speaker 5: I'm calling the fight. But after what I saw it

1932
01:30:43,600 --> 01:30:46,559
Speaker 5: sphear last September, I don't know that I would be

1933
01:30:46,600 --> 01:30:49,000
Speaker 5: bullish about walking to a window to put down my

1934
01:30:49,080 --> 01:30:52,479
Speaker 5: hard earned money against Valentine. I thought she turned back

1935
01:30:52,520 --> 01:30:54,680
Speaker 5: the clock and look great. How do you handicap her

1936
01:30:54,760 --> 01:30:58,639
Speaker 5: chances to spring the upset and retain her title?

1937
01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:02,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, I get a lot of what Brian's saying. I

1938
01:31:02,240 --> 01:31:07,120
Speaker 7: think Manaal is very impressive. I think that she has

1939
01:31:07,160 --> 01:31:09,800
Speaker 7: a unique striking style that is difficult for a lot

1940
01:31:09,800 --> 01:31:11,960
Speaker 7: of people to deal with. You know, that karate style

1941
01:31:11,960 --> 01:31:15,360
Speaker 7: that in and out kind of lansom strikes disappear, that

1942
01:31:15,479 --> 01:31:18,920
Speaker 7: blitz out of nowhere could be a handful for a

1943
01:31:18,960 --> 01:31:22,519
Speaker 7: lot of fighters, But Schevchenko isn't just a lot of fighters.

1944
01:31:22,560 --> 01:31:27,000
Speaker 7: I think that she proved herself, you know, worthy of

1945
01:31:27,000 --> 01:31:29,000
Speaker 7: that belt when she came back to beat Grasso as

1946
01:31:29,080 --> 01:31:31,760
Speaker 7: John mentioned, and I think the way that she went

1947
01:31:31,800 --> 01:31:36,639
Speaker 7: about it showed that she's a sophisticated operator. She knows

1948
01:31:36,680 --> 01:31:39,400
Speaker 7: how to execute and game plans, she knows how to

1949
01:31:39,600 --> 01:31:43,240
Speaker 7: fix her mistakes, and she's in order to do that,

1950
01:31:43,320 --> 01:31:45,360
Speaker 7: you need to have that passion, you need to have

1951
01:31:45,400 --> 01:31:48,920
Speaker 7: that hunger. Someone who's not hungry doesn't really care about

1952
01:31:48,960 --> 01:31:53,479
Speaker 7: improving their game, And I think for Chevchenko, I thought

1953
01:31:53,479 --> 01:31:56,160
Speaker 7: that was a really good sign that she still wants

1954
01:31:56,320 --> 01:31:59,639
Speaker 7: in this game, she still loves to fight, and because

1955
01:31:59,680 --> 01:32:02,000
Speaker 7: of that, I like Chevchenko here. It's rare that you're

1956
01:32:02,000 --> 01:32:05,880
Speaker 7: gonna see Chevchenko in this underdog spot, especially against someone

1957
01:32:05,880 --> 01:32:09,360
Speaker 7: who's no doubt a great fighter. But she hasn't proven

1958
01:32:09,400 --> 01:32:12,040
Speaker 7: herself enough to me. And I think, yes, that Blanchfield

1959
01:32:12,080 --> 01:32:16,040
Speaker 7: win was huge Brian, no question, But Blanchfield isn't necessarily

1960
01:32:16,080 --> 01:32:18,720
Speaker 7: known as having the best takedown game. I think Chefchenko

1961
01:32:18,760 --> 01:32:21,840
Speaker 7: has better takedowns. So I think if Blanchfield can't get

1962
01:32:21,880 --> 01:32:24,559
Speaker 7: you to the ground, then anyone almost in that division

1963
01:32:24,600 --> 01:32:25,240
Speaker 7: has a good shot.

1964
01:32:25,240 --> 01:32:28,680
Speaker 5: Why Because Blanchfield's tough, but she's not a great striker.

1965
01:32:29,000 --> 01:32:33,120
Speaker 7: And I think that, you know, Chevchenko is a very

1966
01:32:33,160 --> 01:32:38,840
Speaker 7: different fighter than Aaron Blanchfield. So yeah, I like Chevchenko here,

1967
01:32:39,560 --> 01:32:40,519
Speaker 7: I'm gonna take it.

1968
01:32:41,000 --> 01:32:44,160
Speaker 5: And you're right, man like desperately hungry going into that

1969
01:32:44,320 --> 01:32:50,320
Speaker 5: Grosso Trilogy fight all right, main event for the undisputed

1970
01:32:50,360 --> 01:32:54,200
Speaker 5: Welterweight Championship, first title defense for Black Mohammed a modus

1971
01:32:54,280 --> 01:32:57,920
Speaker 5: two thirty eight favorite on DraftKings sportsbook. Here early during

1972
01:32:57,960 --> 01:33:01,120
Speaker 5: fight week, Jack Dela Atlanta comes plus one ninety five.

1973
01:33:01,200 --> 01:33:04,840
Speaker 5: So Mohammad nearly defended the Belts in short order against

1974
01:33:04,840 --> 01:33:07,840
Speaker 5: Shofcott rock Monov last year. Life threatening foot infection got

1975
01:33:07,840 --> 01:33:10,960
Speaker 5: in the way of that, and now Shafcott toremniscus Ona

1976
01:33:10,960 --> 01:33:12,920
Speaker 5: able to make the walk, It'll be Jack Dela Madalena,

1977
01:33:13,120 --> 01:33:17,040
Speaker 5: who is seven to zero in the UFC. Brian Petrie, Yes,

1978
01:33:17,720 --> 01:33:21,519
Speaker 5: Balah Muhammad or Jack Dela Maddelena as you have coined

1979
01:33:21,560 --> 01:33:23,640
Speaker 5: him three named Jack.

1980
01:33:24,120 --> 01:33:26,800
Speaker 6: Listen, guys, listen, let's let's let's let full trenk. We

1981
01:33:26,840 --> 01:33:28,920
Speaker 6: all see the comments. We see the comments. You guys

1982
01:33:28,960 --> 01:33:33,200
Speaker 6: suck below Dick every episode quick talking about below. We

1983
01:33:33,280 --> 01:33:36,000
Speaker 6: see what you guys are saying. But the point being

1984
01:33:36,160 --> 01:33:38,799
Speaker 6: is right, and I'm probably not close with Blaus obviously,

1985
01:33:38,800 --> 01:33:41,200
Speaker 6: most of these guys were friendly. I like, blaa, we've

1986
01:33:41,240 --> 01:33:44,679
Speaker 6: met YadA YadA. But he's the best in the division

1987
01:33:44,720 --> 01:33:46,599
Speaker 6: for a reason. He's the champion for a reason. Hey

1988
01:33:46,760 --> 01:33:49,040
Speaker 6: put on your hate aside. Look what the guy has done.

1989
01:33:49,880 --> 01:33:52,160
Speaker 6: End of story. So nobody's he going to his breakdown

1990
01:33:52,200 --> 01:33:56,800
Speaker 6: of anything. I've glazed Jack Delman, Jack, that's my guy.

1991
01:33:56,880 --> 01:33:58,680
Speaker 6: You know, I've been three named Jack, I've been all

1992
01:33:58,680 --> 01:34:01,000
Speaker 6: over I've never picked against him. This is a fun fight.

1993
01:34:01,080 --> 01:34:03,280
Speaker 6: This is a really good fight. And it's interesting because

1994
01:34:03,360 --> 01:34:05,680
Speaker 6: Jack has posted some things on social media where he

1995
01:34:05,720 --> 01:34:08,080
Speaker 6: brought in Craig Jones, who's a world renown grappler. He's

1996
01:34:08,200 --> 01:34:11,559
Speaker 6: out in a Vocnosti's grappling coach and Jack Della choked

1997
01:34:11,600 --> 01:34:13,880
Speaker 6: him out flat out with the dars, and they've been

1998
01:34:13,880 --> 01:34:15,680
Speaker 6: showing that was that real. Who knows, you know, we're

1999
01:34:15,720 --> 01:34:17,479
Speaker 6: hyping up a fight. I'm not saying he's gonna check

2000
01:34:17,520 --> 01:34:20,680
Speaker 6: out Bella, but clearly he's working his ground game. And

2001
01:34:20,720 --> 01:34:22,320
Speaker 6: that's the one thing that's the big question, because you

2002
01:34:22,320 --> 01:34:23,760
Speaker 6: go back to the hefets fight, you go back to

2003
01:34:23,760 --> 01:34:26,120
Speaker 6: the basil halfests fight, and you're like, oh, there's a

2004
01:34:26,200 --> 01:34:29,280
Speaker 6: lot of opportunities there that Jack really kind of squandered.

2005
01:34:29,400 --> 01:34:32,160
Speaker 6: You know, Basl was exhausted and all you got to

2006
01:34:32,160 --> 01:34:34,400
Speaker 6: do is punch a little more, and he engaged in

2007
01:34:34,400 --> 01:34:36,720
Speaker 6: the grappling where he kept getting reversed, and there's a

2008
01:34:36,760 --> 01:34:38,519
Speaker 6: lot of issues with that. Yes, that was a while ago,

2009
01:34:38,600 --> 01:34:40,679
Speaker 6: but then the fight, i Q has gotten better since then.

2010
01:34:41,040 --> 01:34:44,240
Speaker 6: Jack in the pocket is money. His boxing in the

2011
01:34:44,280 --> 01:34:48,479
Speaker 6: pocket is nasty. It is beautiful combinations. He can he

2012
01:34:48,479 --> 01:34:50,360
Speaker 6: can just throw one punch, he can post out you

2013
01:34:50,360 --> 01:34:52,479
Speaker 6: from once. He can do combinations. You have to be

2014
01:34:52,600 --> 01:34:55,360
Speaker 6: very careful in the pocket because he is willing to exchange.

2015
01:34:55,400 --> 01:34:57,800
Speaker 6: He is willing to take a hit to give a hit. Yes,

2016
01:34:57,920 --> 01:34:59,800
Speaker 6: that's what he's willing to do. He's willing to put

2017
01:34:59,840 --> 01:35:01,600
Speaker 6: him off the fire. Then you got a guy a

2018
01:35:01,680 --> 01:35:04,040
Speaker 6: Blao who a lot of people go, oh, Canelo hands

2019
01:35:04,080 --> 01:35:06,120
Speaker 6: and this and that for whatever reason. But if you

2020
01:35:06,160 --> 01:35:09,000
Speaker 6: look at Blao, his hands have gotten so much tractically

2021
01:35:09,040 --> 01:35:12,320
Speaker 6: better with his own style. It's he's a big thick dude,

2022
01:35:12,320 --> 01:35:15,040
Speaker 6: but it's it's not necessarily pity pat, but it's to

2023
01:35:15,080 --> 01:35:17,519
Speaker 6: put you in puts you in your face. I'm putting

2024
01:35:17,600 --> 01:35:19,799
Speaker 6: something out there in your face almost Nick Nick Diaz

2025
01:35:19,840 --> 01:35:22,479
Speaker 6: a llah. Maybe I'll throw it over him. That's power,

2026
01:35:22,520 --> 01:35:23,920
Speaker 6: and then I'm going for a double one. I'm putting

2027
01:35:23,920 --> 01:35:26,040
Speaker 6: you on your fucking head. No one can stop it.

2028
01:35:26,080 --> 01:35:28,240
Speaker 6: And I said this years ago, before Blao was a champion.

2029
01:35:28,400 --> 01:35:30,679
Speaker 6: He had the best cardio in the division. He barely

2030
01:35:30,720 --> 01:35:33,200
Speaker 6: broke a sweat with Leon and Leon one or maybe

2031
01:35:33,240 --> 01:35:34,880
Speaker 6: not one, but came back in that fight, and I

2032
01:35:34,880 --> 01:35:37,599
Speaker 6: think Blao lost focus this fight. You're not losing focus.

2033
01:35:37,600 --> 01:35:39,920
Speaker 6: You're the champ. Now you got that strap. You gotta

2034
01:35:39,960 --> 01:35:42,439
Speaker 6: go a hard five and you gotta put this guy away,

2035
01:35:42,520 --> 01:35:44,680
Speaker 6: or at least try to write. Easier said than done

2036
01:35:44,680 --> 01:35:46,720
Speaker 6: when you got a guy like Jack. But Bla's the

2037
01:35:46,720 --> 01:35:48,479
Speaker 6: boogeyman for a lot of people in this division. This

2038
01:35:48,560 --> 01:35:51,080
Speaker 6: is a tough matchup for anybody, and it's even a

2039
01:35:51,120 --> 01:35:53,000
Speaker 6: really bad matchup for I think a guy like three

2040
01:35:53,080 --> 01:35:54,839
Speaker 6: named Jack, I think this is gonna be a problem.

2041
01:35:55,040 --> 01:35:57,320
Speaker 6: I think Blow's grappling his head and shoulders above. I

2042
01:35:57,360 --> 01:35:58,840
Speaker 6: think Jack thinks he's gonna get away with a lot

2043
01:35:58,840 --> 01:36:01,479
Speaker 6: of striking in the pocket because Balau does close distance.

2044
01:36:01,600 --> 01:36:03,720
Speaker 6: He's not the tallest guy at win seventy, so he

2045
01:36:03,760 --> 01:36:05,599
Speaker 6: will be in your face and closing distance, so Jack

2046
01:36:05,640 --> 01:36:07,720
Speaker 6: probably thinks I can get my strikes off there. But

2047
01:36:07,800 --> 01:36:09,519
Speaker 6: the minute you think that's the minut you're getting put

2048
01:36:09,560 --> 01:36:12,560
Speaker 6: on your back and Bela's heavy on top. He's powerful,

2049
01:36:12,720 --> 01:36:15,040
Speaker 6: he doesn't stop. He's gonna try to break you with

2050
01:36:15,040 --> 01:36:18,479
Speaker 6: his cardio. And God, he is so motivated for this fight,

2051
01:36:18,560 --> 01:36:20,040
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. He wants to be an

2052
01:36:20,040 --> 01:36:23,360
Speaker 6: active champion. That foot thing really fucked him up. He's chomping,

2053
01:36:23,400 --> 01:36:25,160
Speaker 6: not the big to get in there, and I just

2054
01:36:25,160 --> 01:36:27,280
Speaker 6: don't think there's anybody better in the world at one

2055
01:36:27,320 --> 01:36:29,720
Speaker 6: hundred and seventy pounds on blah Muhammet. I like him

2056
01:36:29,720 --> 01:36:32,439
Speaker 6: to win this fight, probably a fifty forty five because

2057
01:36:32,479 --> 01:36:34,360
Speaker 6: Jack's tough. I don't see him getting theim out of there,

2058
01:36:34,360 --> 01:36:37,160
Speaker 6: but I would love a finish. But Jack will be

2059
01:36:37,200 --> 01:36:41,200
Speaker 6: back one day. But gimme Bla. Remember the name, mom.

2060
01:36:41,200 --> 01:36:43,679
Speaker 5: All right, kem flow. The floor is yours. Della Mattatlanda,

2061
01:36:43,720 --> 01:36:46,040
Speaker 5: returning for the first time since UFC two ninety nine

2062
01:36:46,080 --> 01:36:48,760
Speaker 5: around three t KO of Gilbert Burns more than a

2063
01:36:48,840 --> 01:36:52,720
Speaker 5: year ago. At one point he was gonna fight shovcatt Rokamanov,

2064
01:36:53,400 --> 01:36:56,240
Speaker 5: but the calendar is aligned for three named Jack. Your

2065
01:36:56,240 --> 01:36:59,040
Speaker 5: thoughts on him against Balal in the title fight this weekend,

2066
01:37:00,160 --> 01:37:01,200
Speaker 5: very interesting matchup.

2067
01:37:01,320 --> 01:37:05,840
Speaker 7: Jack delamount Atlanta is a fantastic striker, particularly because his

2068
01:37:06,160 --> 01:37:09,680
Speaker 7: counter striking is elite. Now, the problem with that is

2069
01:37:09,680 --> 01:37:12,320
Speaker 7: Ballall doesn't really throw a lot of things where he

2070
01:37:12,360 --> 01:37:16,439
Speaker 7: throws himself off balance. Where he's throwing wide shots. It's

2071
01:37:16,479 --> 01:37:19,240
Speaker 7: a lot of like crisp quick shots in and out

2072
01:37:19,680 --> 01:37:22,920
Speaker 7: to set up takedowns, you know, to set up kicks

2073
01:37:23,200 --> 01:37:26,920
Speaker 7: at different ranges. So I think that flick jab in

2074
01:37:26,960 --> 01:37:30,240
Speaker 7: particular that he has been developing should come into play

2075
01:37:30,280 --> 01:37:33,799
Speaker 7: a lot here because it's a very difficult strike to counter,

2076
01:37:34,000 --> 01:37:36,320
Speaker 7: like to slip and get on the inside where Jack

2077
01:37:36,360 --> 01:37:40,439
Speaker 7: Dela Moutalanta wants to be. It becomes very very difficult

2078
01:37:40,479 --> 01:37:44,000
Speaker 7: to do that. So I think that alone, the striking

2079
01:37:44,040 --> 01:37:48,000
Speaker 7: style of Belall can be a problem. JDM certainly has

2080
01:37:48,080 --> 01:37:51,360
Speaker 7: knockout power, he's got the speed, he has the slickness.

2081
01:37:52,240 --> 01:37:54,960
Speaker 7: What I've noticed it sometimes sometimes it can take him

2082
01:37:54,960 --> 01:37:57,280
Speaker 7: a little bit to get going, you know, similar to

2083
01:37:57,280 --> 01:37:59,439
Speaker 7: the Gilbert Burns fight. But I you know, I asked

2084
01:37:59,439 --> 01:38:01,800
Speaker 7: Balal about that fight because I think there's a lot

2085
01:38:01,880 --> 01:38:05,080
Speaker 7: for Bellall to kind of build off of. You know,

2086
01:38:05,160 --> 01:38:08,080
Speaker 7: I think I think Burns got really tired in that fight.

2087
01:38:08,160 --> 01:38:10,080
Speaker 7: I think he got a little frustrated in that fight.

2088
01:38:10,560 --> 01:38:14,560
Speaker 7: Ballall doesn't get tired and he doesn't get frustrated.

2089
01:38:14,600 --> 01:38:18,160
Speaker 5: He just moves forward. He stays very present during the fight.

2090
01:38:18,400 --> 01:38:22,000
Speaker 5: He's got the championship belt, but he has the championship mindset,

2091
01:38:22,080 --> 01:38:23,080
Speaker 5: no question about it.

2092
01:38:23,479 --> 01:38:25,639
Speaker 7: And I think that all of this experience that he's

2093
01:38:25,680 --> 01:38:28,160
Speaker 7: been accruing just to get to the belt has served

2094
01:38:28,240 --> 01:38:31,559
Speaker 7: him extremely well. It's only battle hardened him that much

2095
01:38:31,640 --> 01:38:35,639
Speaker 7: more and proven that he's really is pretty anti fragile.

2096
01:38:35,680 --> 01:38:38,639
Speaker 7: So JDM, I'm still waiting to I kind of wanted

2097
01:38:38,640 --> 01:38:41,040
Speaker 7: to get more intel on him on just how good

2098
01:38:41,080 --> 01:38:43,679
Speaker 7: he is now. He may be good enough to beat

2099
01:38:43,720 --> 01:38:48,080
Speaker 7: someone like Balal Mohammed, I just haven't seen it quite yet.

2100
01:38:48,720 --> 01:38:51,559
Speaker 7: So with that, I think this is going to be

2101
01:38:51,680 --> 01:38:53,760
Speaker 7: a good performance for Balal and I think he wins

2102
01:38:53,800 --> 01:38:54,160
Speaker 7: this fight.

2103
01:38:54,640 --> 01:38:56,720
Speaker 5: A lot of big things coming up during this fight

2104
01:38:56,760 --> 01:38:58,920
Speaker 5: week for UFC three fifteen. Very excited to bring it

2105
01:38:58,960 --> 01:39:01,479
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2109
01:39:09,160 --> 01:39:13,120
Speaker 5: So my math suggests that Kenny Florian has a lead

2110
01:39:13,240 --> 01:39:15,960
Speaker 5: of about six thousand, three hundred and ninety one dollars

2111
01:39:15,960 --> 01:39:17,800
Speaker 5: and thirty nine cents. He is in the plus by

2112
01:39:17,800 --> 01:39:20,800
Speaker 5: eight hundred and forty six dollars. I'll be handling the

2113
01:39:20,800 --> 01:39:22,600
Speaker 5: math from now on, boys, so you don't need to

2114
01:39:22,600 --> 01:39:25,960
Speaker 5: worry about it. Brian, your figure is minus five five, four,

2115
01:39:26,160 --> 01:39:27,879
Speaker 5: five and thirty nine cents, right.

2116
01:39:27,920 --> 01:39:28,400
Speaker 6: That's correct.

2117
01:39:28,439 --> 01:39:28,599
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2118
01:39:28,600 --> 01:39:30,280
Speaker 6: When I said that to you today, John, my phone

2119
01:39:30,320 --> 01:39:32,400
Speaker 6: threw up. It threw up rate my hand.

2120
01:39:32,439 --> 01:39:34,920
Speaker 5: So I I know why you're you're it's only because

2121
01:39:34,960 --> 01:39:36,880
Speaker 5: I haven't been the one track in the math. It's

2122
01:39:36,920 --> 01:39:39,200
Speaker 5: all going to turn around right now. You got three

2123
01:39:39,200 --> 01:39:42,760
Speaker 5: thousand dollars to spend for a pay per view. Have

2124
01:39:42,880 --> 01:39:44,479
Speaker 5: at it, Brian Petree, who do you love?

2125
01:39:44,800 --> 01:39:47,000
Speaker 6: So the big? I mean, I'm not picking a great year.

2126
01:39:47,040 --> 01:39:50,120
Speaker 6: I'm not gonna sit here and make excuses. But the three,

2127
01:39:50,479 --> 01:39:52,920
Speaker 6: the three K that I lost and Cody Steele was big,

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Speaker 6: but you got to take big swings when you're down big.

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Speaker 6: So I was gonna put off three akm blow Muhammad,

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Speaker 6: But I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna have it. Give

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Speaker 6: me fifteen hundred on the Champ, fifteen hundred Muhammed, and

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Speaker 6: then give me another fifteen hundred on Manan. I just

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Speaker 6: think Manon is primed to winning. She's that high of

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Speaker 6: the number. I was hoping we're getting plus money, and listen,

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Speaker 6: plus money after Tanco's incredible. But I have a real

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Speaker 6: good feeling that Manon's going to be in New So yeah,

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Speaker 6: give me those fifteen on each of those ben.

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Speaker 5: And it almost feels like if there's a better number

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Speaker 5: than exists than minus one fifty five, you should get it.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, you're locking it in minus one fifty five today.

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Speaker 5: Can't flow three thousand dollars at your disposal? Who do

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Speaker 5: you love?

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Speaker 7: I would like to put one thousand dollars on Italia Silva.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I love that.

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Speaker 7: And this is where things get interesting, brouh Things are

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Speaker 7: going to change after this, all right? I want to

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Speaker 7: put fifteen hundred dollars on.

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Speaker 5: Chevchenko woo body, Yeah.

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Speaker 7: There might be a big swing here, and then the

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Speaker 7: remaining five hundred dollars I'm going to put it on

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Speaker 7: a one blal Muhammed nicely though.

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Speaker 5: All Right, hey, Brian, I'll leave you with this. You

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Speaker 5: know the reason why you are so great? Well, there

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Speaker 5: are many, right, but the fact that you brought that

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Speaker 5: ken Flow aimans a hobby nugget to the table today.

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Speaker 5: The fact that you came across that in your research,

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Speaker 5: you know, reminds me a little bit of myself back

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Speaker 5: in the day that maybe that would have been something

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Speaker 5: that would have come across my wake. But the fact

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Speaker 5: that you came across that and brought it to our

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Speaker 5: listeners is fucking amazing and I applaud you for doing that.

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Speaker 6: So go watch it. It's great you get a Ken Flow.

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Speaker 6: He's a gang of the gym.

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Speaker 5: Baby, that's amazing. Thank you, buddy. Appreciate the Sunday Night Tickle.

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Speaker 5: We'll talk to you next Monday.

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Speaker 6: Okay, all right, boys, have a show. John, I'll see

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Speaker 6: you boys.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, buddy. Yeah. Brian Petrie mma on actually can

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Speaker 5: follow his MMA Takes podcast as well. All right, Thanks

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Speaker 5: to the champouout Muhammad, thanks to Ray Long going, Brian

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Speaker 5: Petrie and Jason Annik and the great Cody Merrow for

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Speaker 5: putting it all together. We look forward to seeing you

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Speaker 5: all live on pay per view this Saturday night, and

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Speaker 5: Ken Flow and I will be back to recap it

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Speaker 5: for you, I believe in our usual slot live on Monday.

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Speaker 5: Don't forget to check out Kenny Florian dot com for

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Speaker 5: your jiu jitsu essentials, John Anick dot com for your

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Speaker 5: merchandise needs, and download the John anack aapp as well.

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Speaker 5: We will have a free exclusive chat coming up this

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Speaker 5: Thursday during fight week. Thank you all for being here

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Speaker 5: live for Camp Flum John and We'll talk to you

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Speaker 5: in six or seven days. Until then, have a great

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Speaker 5: fight week. You'll later