1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,079 Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: production of I Heart Radio. Hello, welcome back to the show. 5 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: My name is Matt, my name is Noel. They called 6 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: me Ben. We're joined as always with our superproducer Alexis 7 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: code named Doc Holiday Jackson. Most importantly, you are you. 8 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: You are here, and that makes this the stuff they 9 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: don't want you to know. It's the top of the week, 10 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: which means we're exploring more strange news in today's segment, 11 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 1: and I think we're all experiencing that issue I alluded 12 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: to earlier. Increasingly it's difficult to find just the one story, 13 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: like just just the one, because there's so much stuff today. 14 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: You're gonna learn a little bit about possible statewide conspiracy 15 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: in Russia. Uh, you're gonna ride the lightning kind of 16 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: in a weird way. Uh. We're also gonna were also 17 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 1: gonna learn about a corrupted vote, but not the one 18 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: you're thinking of, right, So so, um, I'm thinking, if 19 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: you all are feeling up for it, maybe we maybe 20 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: we explained the lightning first, because this is like, this 21 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: is god like power to me. Just based on the headline, 22 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: I know it's going to be used for evil, which 23 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: is so cool. Well, I hope the hope is that 24 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 1: it would be used for good, especially the greater good. 25 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: But the potential here, the potential? Uh well yeah, sure, 26 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: let's get right into it. Uh. The article that I 27 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: am bringing to the table today is from Cosmos. It's 28 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: Cosmos magazine dot com. A very similar article like this 29 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: was posted to many different outlets, and it's all in 30 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: response to a paper that was published in the journal Nature. 31 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: And I'll just tell you what it's. What it says. 32 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: The title is can we control where lightning strikes? Oh? 33 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:21,519 Speaker 1: But not twice? Certainly? Well, well, here's the deal. We've 34 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: talked about, you know, controlling the weather and manipulation of 35 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: the weather for a long time, specifically with lightning. We 36 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: came up with this ingenious thing us humans, something called 37 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: a lightning rod, where if you've got a piece of 38 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: metal of some kind that is grounded, stuck into the 39 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 1: ground at some point, and it is high enough, then 40 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 1: you can generally coax the lightning into striking that pole 41 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 1: rather than surrounding buildings or surrounding wildlife, uh, you know, 42 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: forests and things like that. Generally it helps at least 43 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: it is it isn't There isn't certainty that you're not 44 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: going to have errant lightning strikes on other things right 45 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: on other surfaces. Um. And also like lightning itself is 46 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: a crazy thing. We could even talk about like is 47 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: it is it actually coming down from the sky and 48 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: striking the ground or is it the opposite and going 49 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 1: up into the sky and the charged particles. I used 50 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: to that, I gotta tell you, I used to think, uh, 51 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: based on some of the questions or things you're just 52 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: mentioning that lightning was somehow sentient when I was younger, 53 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: and because of four? Right, what's that? Because of four 54 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: and all that? I mean, I knew about the Norse mythology, 55 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: but I was more like the way electricity seemed to 56 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: know when and where to connect to places seemed to 57 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: me to be the actions of a thinking entity. And 58 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: no one corrected me. No one was like, hey, no, 59 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: don't worry, kid, lightning is not some sort of living thing. 60 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: They were all just like huh, yeah, looking back, I 61 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: think I probably talked to a lot of stoners. I 62 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: also love how how ultimately super dirt literally dirt simple. 63 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: The concept of grounding is it's literally just connecting a 64 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 1: thing to the ground because lightning seeks the ground, so 65 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: you have to like ground your power and that makes 66 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: it where you're not gonna be the path to the 67 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: ground for the electricity because it's already finding that path. 68 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: One another way finding seeking. I'm telling you, I'm telling 69 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: I haven't completely given up on a good point, but 70 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: I think I think you could probably maybe um, and 71 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: again this is a layman's way, but you could probably 72 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 1: talk about it in terms of potential and in terms 73 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: of like it's gonna seek. Okay, there again, I'm doing it. Um, 74 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: I guess so that you would use the term seek 75 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 1: or it's just going to naturally flow in a direction 76 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 1: towards the path of least resistance, right, yeah, but humans 77 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: can influence it also true, that's where we're going. But 78 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 1: you're you're right though. It is very much like a 79 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: lot of the other natural processes. Is of like you're 80 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: speaking to their you know, whenever there's a lack of 81 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 1: something or less dense area next to a higher density area, 82 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 1: it's going there's going to be a flow. Um, things 83 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: want to nature. Things in nature want to find that 84 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 1: equilibrium if possible. Um, So let's talk about like, why 85 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 1: are we talking about lightning and it possibly knowing where 86 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: it's going to strike. What if we could just decide, hey, lightning, 87 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: you're not going to strike there, And I've got this 88 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: cool piece of technology from long long ago that we're 89 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: figuring out how to utilize to make that lightning however, 90 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: smart you are strike where I want you to strike, 91 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: because I'm human and I'm smart and I can invent things. Well, 92 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: there is, uh, there are there's a whole group of 93 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: scientists international and international group of scientists who are attempting 94 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 1: to come up with a way to guide lightning, I guess. 95 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 1: And one of the reasons that their studies were spurred 96 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: were because of the Australian fires that were occurring all 97 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 1: over the country in twenty nineteen and in throughout parts 98 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:13,359 Speaker 1: of as well, and they wanted to see would it 99 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: be possible to prevent those dry lightning strikes that will 100 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: hit an area in the outback somewhere or an area 101 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: of foliage that is very very dry and then ignite 102 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: a large wildfire that then is extremely difficult to put out. 103 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: Is there a way that we could make that lightning 104 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: not hit any of these areas that are that we 105 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: need to protect because they are vulnerable. I'm gonna say 106 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 1: force field dome situation. Well, I'm gonna recuse myself. Well 107 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 1: it's I mean, it sounds kind of crazy. They refer 108 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: to it as a laser tractor beam technology. Right, so 109 00:06:54,120 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: we're already in star trek Ufo flying saucers like realm here, 110 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: and we're in the territory. But it may not be 111 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: as crazy as it sounds just initially. Now, ben you guys, 112 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: I think I've shared out these links to to both 113 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: of you guys, um, and you may have to help 114 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: me through this. Not the sharpest thing in the whatever 115 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: you want to use here, Um, the sharpest not not 116 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: the uh not you know, there's so much fun. Okay, 117 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: not the uh not the slickst seal on the seashore. 118 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: There you go. I was just gonna say I'm not 119 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: the sharpest chess piece in the library, just to make 120 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 1: sure everyone understands I'm not poop. But but the what 121 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: they're doing here is there They've got two electrodes. So 122 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: imagine if you just hold up your hands kind of 123 00:07:56,560 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: shoulder width here. Um it one of your electrodes on 124 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: your left hand has a small hole in the center 125 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: of it's like a cylindrical hole, and a laser gets 126 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: shot through that hole and hits on the other electrode, 127 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: which would be your right hand. And in between those 128 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: two electrodes there are there's essentially I think it's charged 129 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: particles in the center there that they used to show that. UM. 130 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: When you when you shine this laser beam through this 131 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: hole around a particle or a thing that they're calling 132 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: a particle, and it heats up, you can force an 133 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: electrical charge to follow along that laser. Like the laser 134 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 1: can essentially heat uh certain areas between these two electrodes, 135 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 1: and then it causes cooling in other places, like around 136 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: where the laser is hitting. UM. So you're essentially supercharging 137 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 1: the air around this one thing, this one particle, and 138 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,959 Speaker 1: right now is just laboratory testing. It's very small scale 139 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: and they're using like the lasers that they're using are 140 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 1: not some giant, huge laser that you would imagine for 141 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 1: some particle beam testing or for some you know, military 142 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 1: purpose that would be weaponized or something like that. UM, 143 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 1: And they're thinking that if you just up the scale 144 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: on something like this a little bit larger, you put 145 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: it in strategic places, you would you be able to 146 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: essentially coax the lightning rather than striking in any of 147 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 1: these other places somewhat randomly. It would just will you 148 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 1: kind of funnel the charge through one of these things. 149 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: And the coolest thing that and it isn't even really 150 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: mentioned much in this article. Um, and good lord. I've 151 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: been trying to make my way through the nature article, 152 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 1: which is a whole other thing that we've talked about before. 153 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 1: But it seems as though if you could control lightning 154 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: strikes in that way, you could harness that electricity, You 155 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: could harness heat the everything that's being generated there to 156 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: actually get power if you could find a way to 157 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 1: store it at these sites where you've got one of 158 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 1: these specialized laser tractor beams. Um, super fascinating stuff. What 159 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:16,559 Speaker 1: else do you guys think about this? Do you think? 160 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: I mean, they they haven't done any in the field experiments, 161 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: if I from what I understand at this point, the 162 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: laboratory experiments have about twenty different iterations that prove the concept, 163 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: and the concept is exactly what it sounds like. We 164 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 1: have the technology, which I think you explained perfectly, Matt, 165 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 1: to direct lightning to guide it toward predetermined targets. So 166 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: the first the reason the scientists are doing this, Yes, 167 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: it's to prevent forest fires. Write a little bit of 168 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: a smoky in the bare vite. But you don't have 169 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:00,319 Speaker 1: to have a forest fire to have a predefined gate. 170 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: That's the thing. Uh. The other the other issue here 171 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: is um, well, I would say the two issues are 172 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: that one, we cannot with absolute certitude make a thunder 173 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: storm happen somewhere yet, so if you wanted to hit something, 174 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 1: or if you wanted to have that dry lightning, I 175 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: think specifically, uh, you would have to wait for it 176 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: to occur. Right, It's like it's like a gun where 177 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: you randomly find bullets that fit it, kind of like 178 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: in a video game. Um, but it's true. But the 179 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: second thing is, and perhaps I would argue one of 180 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: the more important is that our species has found ways 181 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: to affect the weather before, and no good has come 182 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:46,839 Speaker 1: of it. You know. I always think of what is 183 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: it the the cloud busting machine, you know? Um, and 184 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: how that guy ended up kind of having to be 185 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:55,839 Speaker 1: on the lamb because either a it was totally fraudulent, 186 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: or be it was actually doing something and it was 187 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: affecting climate in a weird, localized and wholly unpleasant way. 188 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: I believe it that potentially led to some floods if 189 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken them. Uh. Yeah, there are two things, 190 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: So the William Reich and orgo and energy. That's where 191 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: the cloud buster comes from. That's the guy who's getting 192 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:19,599 Speaker 1: chased down. Uh. The addition of I believe silver I 193 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: had died into the sky can cause moisture to a creek, 194 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 1: can's call we can remake and cloud seating cloud seating 195 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: exactly right. And then there's another story I was talking 196 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: about a specific episode. I was kind of crossing two 197 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 1: paths because I think of cloud busting that Kate Bush song, 198 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: which is sort of the story of Wilhelm Reich and 199 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: this idea of him having this like grand scheme of 200 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 1: being able to influence the weather using this potentially fictional 201 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: form of orgon energy. But the story we're also talking 202 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: about is literally in introducing a chemical element into the 203 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: clouds that gone unchecked, can actually creak havoc on the 204 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: environment in terms of like you know, over doing it. Yeah, 205 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: alphabet the alphabet guys used it in Southeast Asia during 206 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: conflicts in Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos, and it created massive flooding. 207 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 1: Like it's not it's something we can affect, but only 208 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: kind of in the beginning, and we can't really do 209 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 1: much much else with it. But this, like this laser 210 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: guided lightning technology could in an ideal world, save lives, 211 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: save natural environments. And to your point, Matt, I think 212 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 1: the super forward facing or futuristic view of it is 213 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:42,439 Speaker 1: a world in which we can, just like thor and 214 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: Norse mythology, we can harness the power of the divine 215 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: right of Zeus and the gods. Yeah, and this is 216 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 1: from the article from the one of the physicists, one 217 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:54,719 Speaker 1: of the co author's name is Andre muro chin chin 218 00:13:54,880 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: Cho Shinko miro Schenko um He says, we have an 219 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: invisible thread, a pen with which we can write light 220 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: and control the electrical discharged to within about one tenth 221 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: the width of a human hair. Like think about that, 222 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,959 Speaker 1: harnessing the power of lightning into this tiny little strand, 223 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: now that is awesome cool. I mean, I'm sure you 224 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: can weaponize that somehow, because you can discharge it super 225 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: precisely after you've harnessed it over very long distances, so 226 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: you can you can harness it then send that baby 227 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: out um, which you know is a little scary, But 228 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: the coolest thing about being able to do that is 229 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: that they're saying the potential for this technology would be 230 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: to be able to essentially create a lightning scalpel. Like 231 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: imagine if you're I mean even if if if it's 232 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: for non human surgery purposes, right, for some kind of 233 00:14:56,880 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: artificially intelligent surgery that is, moving a tumor of some 234 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: sort or um doing some kind of fine surgery. But 235 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: instead of using any kind of metal to actually do 236 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: make a cut using some carterizing laser technology, you're actually 237 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 1: using this needle like thread of lightning to uh to 238 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: to make these cuts and suitures. And I don't just 239 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: all of the things that you could potentially do with it. 240 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: To me, it feels like once this tech becomes a reality, 241 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: it will feel like something that we maybe should have 242 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: had a long time ago. Um, because it's not like 243 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: we're doing anything extremely revolutionary here. We're just harnessing in 244 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: a different way and thinking about it differently. That's what 245 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: these scientists are doing yeah. I mean, creativity exists in 246 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: the application of extant concepts as much as it does 247 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: in the invention or quote unquote invention of new ones. 248 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: But there's something, there's something Promethean about it, right, Like 249 00:15:56,480 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: we have myths, age old myths awarding us that this 250 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 1: kind of stuff can go sideways. I don't think. I 251 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: don't think the ancient Greeks were uh perhaps contemplating this 252 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: in terms of using lasers. They wouldn't have been aware 253 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: of lasers. But now the fact that it has proven 254 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: in a lab means that someone is going to do it. 255 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: I think. I think of the article you share and 256 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: in in the study as well, uh or in the 257 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: paper and nature. Their main stumbling block is not can 258 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: we do this in the field. The main stumbling block 259 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: is can we build technology that can absorb this massive 260 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: pop of of lightning electricity just shot right at you? 261 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: Can we build something to catch the lightning? Now we 262 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: know how to throw it. Now we just needs somebody 263 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: on the other end who won't be destroyed by it. 264 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say something some sort of Faraday Cage esque situation. 265 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: I don't know what would that look like. Catching lightning 266 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: you have to be able to absorb it and then 267 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: shoot it back to the ground. Wouldn't it just be 268 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: a lightning round. Couldn't need to shoot it like out 269 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: a thing that was grounded, and I would like absorb it. Well, 270 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 1: there's uh not to not to plug away too much. 271 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: But there's a great article odd how stuff works called 272 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: can we harvest the energy of lightning? Uh? This this 273 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:24,439 Speaker 1: article I don't believe has the latest news here, but 274 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: it shows people have been thinking of this question for 275 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: for several years. A single bolt of lightning is powerful 276 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 1: enough to provide electricity to an entire household for a month. 277 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 1: So this is a lot of juice. We just don't know, 278 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 1: that's the thing. We don't know how to build something 279 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: that can hold it long enough to discharge it in 280 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 1: a usable, non destructive way. Right, it's a great way 281 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: to put it in, yeah, because otherwise it's gonna hit 282 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 1: something and just cause an explosion. Because you're talking about 283 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 1: time scale, that's really what the matter is. It's intensity 284 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 1: and time scale is really short. So what happens when 285 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:07,919 Speaker 1: lightning hits a lightning rod? Like it just goes to ground. 286 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 1: It doesn't like scorch the earth, though, does it Oh yeah, dude, 287 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: really yeah. Every time now it it summons, it summons 288 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: all sorts of creatures. I don't know if you've ever 289 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: of nerdy magic, the gathering thing like a sorts roth campaign. 290 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: I'm serious, I'm I'm asking a serious question here, like 291 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 1: if if if a lightning rod gets hit and it's 292 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 1: connected to the ground, is that going to keep it 293 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 1: under control? Or is if there's anything near it, could 294 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 1: it potentially shoot off something and cause you know, a 295 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:39,399 Speaker 1: localized like fire or an event of some sort. Man, 296 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 1: how stuff work still has the best s c O 297 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 1: you guys. Came came right up an article by John 298 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,640 Speaker 1: za visa how lightning works. In the very first, uh, 299 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:51,159 Speaker 1: very first paragraph on it is about lightning rods um 300 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 1: and it's essentially, uh, you know, you think of a 301 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: lightning rod, and you think of a rod, but it's 302 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 1: actually more of a grid, a conductive grid that's connected 303 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: to a angle wire that's then buried in the ground nearby, 304 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: and it, you know, just essentially offers, like we said, 305 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: a low resistance path to the ground for the lightning 306 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 1: to to find. Do you know what it says in 307 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: this article then? Mm hmmmmm. What I'm gonna read this 308 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: to you. Oh God, those good, Oh god, us hold on. 309 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: I just want to make sure I got this here. 310 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 1: The purpose of the lightning rod is not to attract lightning. 311 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: It merely provides a safe option for the lightning strike 312 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:43,880 Speaker 1: to choose. Yes, yeah, choose. So Jerry is still out 313 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:47,400 Speaker 1: on the sentience of lightning, and I can see the 314 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 1: joy in Ben Bolland's face on that very fact. Guys, 315 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: I'm telling you I've got I've got a horror novel 316 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: that is entirely about this idea. It's obsessed to me. 317 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 1: I did. Let's due away with the new gods. Let's 318 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 1: go back the worshiping lightning and stuff like that. Let's 319 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 1: be animistic, let's do it. Let's do it well, well, 320 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: let's I mean, let's also keep an eye on this, right, 321 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 1: because this is pretty this is pretty exciting stuff. Let's 322 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 1: hope that it's used for good. But the research is 323 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 1: out there, it's public, uh, which means that there are 324 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:23,400 Speaker 1: other groups working on this, right, and so so we're 325 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 1: gonna see something happen as long as humanities civilization continues apace, 326 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: which is never a given, but how cool would that be? 327 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: You know, you can control lightning in your own home. Hey, 328 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 1: we'll be right back to learn some more strange news. 329 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 1: And we've returned. This is a geopolitical story that has 330 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: been reported to a degree in Western media. But there 331 00:20:56,640 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 1: are a lot of questions that this story brings up 332 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,919 Speaker 1: that I don't think have been addressed, and I wanted 333 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 1: to share this with you all and share this with 334 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: you fellow conspiracy realist. So I Vladmir Putin may have 335 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 1: heard of him. You know, he's he's like somewhat popular 336 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: in Russia and has been for a number of years. Uh. 337 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:21,640 Speaker 1: You can see photographs of him from his intelligence agency 338 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 1: days where he's pretending to be a photographer. Kidding, that's 339 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: came of a myth. He's more well known for being 340 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: the long running strong man sometimes presidents, sometimes Prime minister 341 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 1: of Russia. Recently, Russia's parliament came out with a pretty 342 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 1: interesting law. The idea here is that if this bill 343 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 1: passes becomes the law, a Russian president could be made 344 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: immune from any criminal prosecution once they leave office, So 345 00:21:55,480 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 1: you've got immunity for life. But yeah, yeah, this doesn't 346 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 1: happen in a vacuum, by the way, which is why 347 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: it's weird people didn't pay attention to the timing. Edward 348 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: Snowden is now a permanent resident of Russia. I reached 349 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: out to him on Twitter. I haven't heard back. And 350 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: also the you know, the huge brew haha with the 351 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: contentious US election, right with one one member or one 352 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: candidate for the election. Uh, well known, well known to 353 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: be somewhat of a syncophant for Russia. And that's not 354 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: my opinion that those are the facts. So for Putin 355 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: to drop out or to try to institute this law, 356 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:41,479 Speaker 1: which is not technically his suggestion whatever, Uh, at this time, 357 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: it seems like there it seems like there could be 358 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:52,360 Speaker 1: some connective tissue there, like is Putin preparing for a 359 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: transition of power? Like is he concerned at all about 360 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,199 Speaker 1: what may shake out in the next few years. Some 361 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: sources have been saying that there is a medical concern. 362 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,880 Speaker 1: The I think it was the Daily Mail or outlet 363 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 1: of that note had said that Putin was possibly suffering 364 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,880 Speaker 1: from Parkinson's But we haven't seen any hard reporting on that, 365 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 1: and the Russian government came out and said that they 366 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 1: had no like there was no compelling medical reason. But 367 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 1: then again, I mean, look at what happened to bring 368 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 1: up Ronald Reagan. Look at what happened with Reagan and 369 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 1: losing cognitive ability during the presidency. No one's gonna say that, 370 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, speaking of Ronald Reagan, have you guys 371 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: seen the trailer for the new uh what is it? 372 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: Call of Duty game that's like based on the Cold War? 373 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 1: And there's a really horrifying, like computer animation of Ronald 374 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: Reagan in the trailer. No, I haven't seen this. It's 375 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: the thing. I just I was like, is that video 376 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 1: game Ronald Reagan? Like what are they up to? And 377 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 1: it was a Call of Duty Cold War? But no. 378 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: And it also makes me think, Ben, of you know, 379 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 1: all the all the hubbub that that surrounded Kim Jong un, 380 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 1: you know, falling out of the public eye briefly, and 381 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,640 Speaker 1: all of this wild speculation that like did he die 382 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 1: or or what have you? Um, And this is obviously 383 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,159 Speaker 1: the early days of this type of speculation. And to 384 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 1: your point about Daily Mail being the kind of the source, 385 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 1: I mean, there's sort of a a a journal of 386 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,360 Speaker 1: ill repute. I suppose we could say, um, but it'll 387 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 1: be interesting to follow. What what do you think though, Ben, Like, 388 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 1: do you have any other evidence or any um tea 389 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 1: leaves that you've been seeing that would indict something is up. 390 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:40,120 Speaker 1: Has he been making fewer appearances than usual. So it's 391 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 1: strange because the way it's being reported in the West 392 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 1: pretty often is a little misleading. There already is a 393 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 1: federal law granting a form of limited but pretty comprehensive 394 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:56,160 Speaker 1: immunity to Russian presidents had passed in February of two 395 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: thousand and one. And this law is actually something that's 396 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: that's familiar to a lot of other countries. The original 397 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: law in two thousand one says a Russian president cannot 398 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 1: be held liable for actions they have taken during office 399 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,959 Speaker 1: during the exercise of their power. And that's that's pretty 400 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 1: common in other countries, because yeah, yeah, Matt, you're right, 401 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: it's pretty common in other democracies, because this is like 402 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 1: it's a tall order two hold the job of president 403 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: and not somehow be implicated in what at least one 404 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 1: or two other countries considers a war crime. You know, 405 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 1: that's that's just the reality here. But this law may 406 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 1: be different because it could be absolute immunity for actions 407 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: taken not only during office but after you leave office. Well, 408 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: it's it's what he did for Yeltson, for Boris Yelson. Right, 409 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 1: my understanding, and maybe I'm wrong, but I my understanding 410 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: is that as soon as Putin got into power, or 411 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 1: he essentially told or like past a few acts that 412 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: said Boris Yelton would be free from prosecution for anything 413 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 1: he did while he was in office, which makes I mean, 414 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 1: which makes sense, Like there's there is a long running 415 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 1: trope or pattern in a lot of these kind of 416 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: state level transitions, and it's that the previous person, if 417 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,880 Speaker 1: their parties aligned, the previous person in power has pardoned. 418 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: Please excuse all the ps there, but that's the truth. 419 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: And with with Putin, I think one of the reasons 420 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 1: we're seeing so much speculation, a lot of which is unfounded, 421 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:46,679 Speaker 1: is primarily because to a degree, Prutin is a black box. 422 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 1: You know, he he's got all the he's got tons 423 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 1: of oligarchs either exiled or on his team. No one 424 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 1: really knows how much money he has. There are a 425 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 1: lot of things about him that remain enigmatic because he's 426 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,120 Speaker 1: a former spy and they're good at stuff like that, 427 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 1: and he has been chilling in a bunker for most 428 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:12,160 Speaker 1: of of COVID nineteen season that we've been going through 429 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 1: rather than being anywhere public, just hanging out in a bunker, 430 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: you know. Yeah. There there's something else though that this uh, 431 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: this parliamentary working group that proposed this bill, there's something 432 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: else that affected their decision. Last month, October took me 433 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 1: a second guy's pandemic rules. Last month, the President of 434 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: Russia announced a suite of sweeping reforms to the overall 435 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:46,679 Speaker 1: political system. And get this, this seems counterintuitive. Watched the 436 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 1: chess game here right, watch the three card monty of power. 437 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 1: His reforms are going to shift power away from the 438 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 1: position of the presidency right round the time is termans. 439 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 1: So the question is what new position will he take? 440 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 1: Is it? Isn't there something? Maybe I'm wrong, I'm I'm 441 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 1: looking at a Guardian article that was reposted in ms 442 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 1: N and I cannot find it originally on the Guardian anymore. 443 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:25,160 Speaker 1: But it is saying that essentially this stuff, this legislation 444 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 1: would entitle any former president to a lifetime seat I'm 445 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,919 Speaker 1: giving a quote here, a lifetime seat as a senator 446 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: within the Russian Federation Council. So that is, are they 447 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: trying to move power to that Council or like, because 448 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: if they're doing that, then holy crap that you just 449 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 1: have a bunch of old oligarch's ruling everything because I mean, 450 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 1: and Putin isn't a a spry I mean he's spry 451 00:28:54,680 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: still obviously, but not do a lot of other world leaders. Yeah. Um, 452 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 1: but also check this out, so there's more stuff happening 453 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 1: in the background here. Russia also before that, adopted a 454 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:16,479 Speaker 1: constitutional amendment that is best described in the Guardian mentions 455 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 1: this too bad, is best described as resetting term limits, 456 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: not for the Russian president, for for flat for Vladimir Putin. 457 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: This would allow him potentially to run for president two 458 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: more times, stayed in office until at which point he 459 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 1: would be eighty four. But that happened in June of 460 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: back before he knew how this election would go. In 461 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: the US, if you believe that the elections are not 462 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 1: kind of predecided through things like the electoral College, which 463 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 1: will have an episode on you promise, good God, is 464 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: that bad to take that out? No, No, it's just, uh, 465 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: there's a reason the electoral college is there. And we've 466 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 1: talked about it before and we talked about it again. Yeah, 467 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 1: I get it, But Matt You've been the voice of 468 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: reason before on this. Yeah, because every every vote counts 469 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 1: and everything's fine. Well, let's just let's just keep let's 470 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 1: just keep going. But we gotta keep going. Okay, okay, okay. 471 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 1: So the thing is that presidential immunity is a huge incentive, 472 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 1: and we also don't know how many uh pies globally 473 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 1: Putin has his hands in, right, we don't know what 474 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 1: he would need to be immune from. That is the 475 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 1: question that people should be asking, right, And what like 476 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 1: lifetime immunity from prosecution, a lifetime seat in the Senate, 477 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 1: becoming in some ways the king in all but name 478 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And it's it's a world, 479 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 1: It's it's not a crazy sci fi political thriller Game 480 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 1: of Thrones. Asked world, this is something that is very 481 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 1: close to becoming true. And I just wonder whether this 482 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 1: is in any way connected two events in the US. 483 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 1: I think that's a fair question to ask, if a 484 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: little bit us centric and self important. But then the 485 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: other question is like, so why now, why this? And 486 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 1: what next? It also makes it very difficult to revoke community. 487 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: So they thought, like they really thought about this immunity part. Yeah, 488 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 1: for some reason. Even in the States, there's been a 489 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 1: lot of talk around like, you know, say what you 490 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 1: will about the president, like what could he pardon himself 491 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 1: or a pardon his family or a pardon you know, 492 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 1: like use that power to have some form of immunity 493 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 1: over perceived crimes. But even then it's not like you 494 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:02,479 Speaker 1: can pardon himself for future events that haven't happened yet. 495 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 1: So this really is like some next level power to 496 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 1: be able to be forever immune for any prosecution that 497 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 1: I don't know how that isn't inherently just looked at 498 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 1: as just the most corrupt thing possible, because to even 499 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 1: need that would imply that you have the intention of 500 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: doing these things or are doing things that would need 501 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 1: you need to be protected from. Imagine right now if 502 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 1: you're a resident of the United States, doesn't matter where 503 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 1: you're a resident of. Imagine if George W. Bush was 504 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 1: still in office or still in charge of the United 505 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: States right now, after all of these years, after everything 506 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 1: that's happened, after all of these major global decisions on diplomacy, 507 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 1: on war, on all of these things, Like, imagine if 508 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 1: then he was saying, uh, guys, just needs you passed 509 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 1: this law he's just gonna say that. I'm just gonna 510 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 1: say that everything I've on it's cool, it's kosher. We're 511 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 1: all right. Don't worry about me. I'm fine. I'm gonna 512 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 1: go over here, get a seat on the on the 513 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 1: the Senate of somewhere, maybe Texas State Senate. Cool. Alright, alright, 514 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 1: by I mean, just imagine like that is what's happening. 515 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 1: It's just happening, you know, for for us in a 516 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 1: different place. I don't know. I want to I want 517 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 1: to hear from from people who live in Russia, who 518 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 1: are who have been watching this and living this. I 519 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 1: want to hear what they think, or people who live 520 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 1: in former Soviet republics as well, because that those decisions 521 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 1: will still impact your life, and we'd love to hear 522 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 1: from you. I'm very curious. I do want to say. So, 523 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 1: there's been some scuttle but saying that this proposal had 524 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 1: some critics, and one piece of speculation I couldn't confirm, 525 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 1: said that Putin was one of those critics. I don't 526 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:57,719 Speaker 1: believe it, because this, again, this is kind of an 527 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 1: international norm. But there's hilarity to it as well, Like 528 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 1: think about this, So what we're talking about is the 529 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:08,280 Speaker 1: Russian Federation, right, That's that's the big, the big corner piece, 530 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 1: corner brownie of the cake pan, that was the USSR. 531 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 1: The Russian Federation exists still, it's been in existence for 532 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:21,319 Speaker 1: about twenty nine years. It has had three presidents. One 533 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 1: of those is dead, so they are two left. And 534 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 1: then they're writing the law like you know, if a 535 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 1: Russian president, like they've a Russian president, that's exactly like 536 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,959 Speaker 1: us writing a law that was like, you know, if 537 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:40,879 Speaker 1: a podcaster or a producer for stuff they don't want 538 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:45,400 Speaker 1: you to know happens to take a two thousand eighteen 539 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 1: Ford Explorer and hit you know, a Popeye's chicken at 540 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 1: six seventy eight points to Leon Avenue northeast, then they 541 00:34:55,920 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 1: should be immune. That's just a law hypothetical. Like that's 542 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 1: how weird it is. Man, you just docked the hell 543 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 1: out of Popeye's chicken. That's not their real a job. 544 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 1: I really thought you meant just like a piece of 545 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 1: Popeye's chicken or something like. It was just one piece 546 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,920 Speaker 1: was there. That's just called wasteful. That's not a crime 547 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 1: against humanity or anything. So it's six A D three 548 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,919 Speaker 1: Boulevard northeast. That's where our Popeye's is. And I will 549 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 1: defend it because again, uh, it's great, and I like 550 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 1: that they saved so much on diplomacy and pass the 551 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,880 Speaker 1: savings onto you. That's the long time listeners. That's the 552 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,759 Speaker 1: same place where a camera wild should have mentioned on. 553 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 1: That's the place where I've I've rolled up before and 554 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 1: the person of the drive through is just said, what, yeah, 555 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 1: I've gotten that treatment to Actually I miss him. I 556 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,799 Speaker 1: miss him. They're great, but yes, but you see what 557 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like writing this in such a general sense 558 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:03,480 Speaker 1: is not even in misleading, it's just weird. It's like 559 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 1: why at that point, why bother just let's say like 560 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 1: this president. Uh. The issue though, is that we can't 561 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 1: really throw stones. This is a glasshouse situation, and this 562 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:16,399 Speaker 1: is something that you see in a lot of other 563 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 1: countries in the US and Western democracies. But I I 564 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:24,799 Speaker 1: don't know, I really don't know about the timing, and 565 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 1: we obviously cannot, like we can't trust official Russian statements 566 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 1: or official Kremlin statements about the health of the president 567 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 1: of Russia. They're not gonna say like, wow, yeah, this 568 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 1: guy's got six months and he is pissed. They're gonna 569 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:44,840 Speaker 1: say he's great, he's been doing great. You're being weird. Chill. Okay, 570 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:49,840 Speaker 1: it's a law about a Russian president. Everybody. What is 571 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:55,799 Speaker 1: his name, Dmitri Medev. That's exactly what the Kremlin said. 572 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 1: That's a quote. They were like, you know the other 573 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:04,279 Speaker 1: one too, Dmitri. You know you know so this So 574 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:05,839 Speaker 1: this is where I leave it. I want to see 575 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,960 Speaker 1: what other people think, especially as Matt said, if you 576 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 1: are from Russia, if you are if you are experienced 577 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 1: in this field of diplomacy. Is this just a regular law? 578 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:25,319 Speaker 1: Is this is this timing independent of any other events? Um? 579 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 1: Is there any stand to the earlier statement from the 580 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 1: Times in January of this is something that didn't get 581 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 1: reported a lot along with this lifetime immunity bill. Uh? 582 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 1: Is there any stand to the Kremlin's earlier statement that 583 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,879 Speaker 1: President Putin could take on the title of Supreme Leader 584 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:51,879 Speaker 1: of Russia under plans discussed by a government commission of 585 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:58,759 Speaker 1: seventy people handpicked by Vladimir Putin to put forward amendments 586 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:04,799 Speaker 1: to the country's constantian bully. I'm just saying, I'm just 587 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 1: saying again, like alone, alone, a piece of a jigsaw 588 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:14,359 Speaker 1: just looks like a puzzle piece. But together they paid 589 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 1: a picture. I just wonder what that picture is. I 590 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,879 Speaker 1: think whatever it is, Ben, it'll probably all be fine. Right, 591 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 1: everything's it's all good as long as we don't get 592 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 1: ahold any of that, you know, lightning shooting technology. Oh, 593 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 1: that's right, there is a part of the law. Is that, 594 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:38,800 Speaker 1: like a Russian president who uses a laser to guide lightning, UH, 595 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,960 Speaker 1: is also immune from I think they said immune from 596 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,360 Speaker 1: the weather and its consequences. It's I don't know, man, 597 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 1: I played Commanding Conquer I know how that goes down. 598 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,439 Speaker 1: As soon as the tesla coils come out, I mean, 599 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:55,359 Speaker 1: it gets dangerous. So just let's let's not okay, everybody, Yeah, 600 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 1: and let's you know, maybe it will all be fine. 601 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 1: Maybe I am reading he leaves uh and being very 602 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 1: careful to say, you know, and to separate speculation from fact. 603 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 1: But the only way it will be all fine is 604 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:13,920 Speaker 1: if that government is not corrupt, right, uh. And that 605 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,880 Speaker 1: brings us to a segue. We're gonna pause for a 606 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,839 Speaker 1: word from our sponsor, and I think we're gonna learn 607 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,120 Speaker 1: a little bit more about corruption, but not in the 608 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:27,279 Speaker 1: way you expect there's a corrupt vote. Us listeners is 609 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,960 Speaker 1: not the one you're thinking to say what people expect 610 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 1: or don't expect. I mean, it could very well be 611 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 1: exactly what you would expect, but you'll have to wait 612 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:42,719 Speaker 1: till after this commercial break to find out. And we're 613 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 1: back election tampering, rigging, falsifying, fraudulent votes. We did an 614 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 1: episode recently on Ridiculous History about the history of ballot 615 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 1: stuffing and fraudulent votes, and it was all much more analog. 616 00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,200 Speaker 1: Back then, people literally would like take piece is a 617 00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 1: paper that were almost like toilet paper, um, and they 618 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 1: would be duplicate ballots stuck together, and then they'd stick 619 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 1: them in these ballot box and then when no one 620 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,319 Speaker 1: was looking, shake up the ballot box and then those 621 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,800 Speaker 1: pieces of paper would separate and then you got yourself 622 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:16,080 Speaker 1: six votes for the price of one. But that's why 623 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,319 Speaker 1: we have secret ballots. But big, that's what it was. 624 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,439 Speaker 1: That was the whole point of that episode was why 625 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:24,360 Speaker 1: we have secret ballots because originally, with voting, the idea 626 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,440 Speaker 1: of secrecy was distrusted. You know, that was almost like 627 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,440 Speaker 1: a negative where it's like, well, what do you have 628 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 1: to hide? Well, it turns out there's plenty to hide. 629 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,799 Speaker 1: If you start shouting your vote, you know, from the rooftops, 630 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,920 Speaker 1: people might not take kindly to it. Um or they 631 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,520 Speaker 1: might target you. And there was a whole thing where 632 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 1: people would get like rounded up in bars and forcibly 633 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:47,319 Speaker 1: fed alcohol and pills and then and where costs. And 634 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 1: that sounded like a really sound like real. It was 635 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,239 Speaker 1: like an early form of gooning, kind of you know, 636 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:57,120 Speaker 1: but like election gooning. But um, we're talking about, you know, 637 00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:00,919 Speaker 1: a modern election fraud today. Um, but you're right, Ben, 638 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,440 Speaker 1: I'm being coy. It's not necessarily the one you you 639 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,840 Speaker 1: might be thinking of. It's one that, honestly, it gives 640 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,479 Speaker 1: me great pain and great pause to even be able 641 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,680 Speaker 1: to discuss openly, because it involves one of my least 642 00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:17,839 Speaker 1: favorite things in this wide world, which is birds. Um. 643 00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,880 Speaker 1: Not a fan of these creatures, these tiny dinosaurs with 644 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:25,719 Speaker 1: their beady eyes, their unpredictable movements, and they're weird which fingers. 645 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:29,200 Speaker 1: I think those are called talents perhaps, but uh, they 646 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:33,640 Speaker 1: they do figure prominently into a story about voter fraud. 647 00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,239 Speaker 1: There is, in fact, I guess you could call it 648 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:40,160 Speaker 1: a competition, a contest that's done every year in New Zealand, 649 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:44,520 Speaker 1: and it's called very simply the Bird of the Year competition. 650 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 1: And this year, my friends, um, something just wasn't quite right. 651 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,600 Speaker 1: There was something a little bit off about the Bird 652 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:58,120 Speaker 1: of the Year competition. Evidence of election rigging has tainted 653 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,080 Speaker 1: this year's competition for Bird of the Year in New Zealand. 654 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:06,160 Speaker 1: It's true, um, organizers started to catch wind of this 655 00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:10,080 Speaker 1: when they received in one fell swoop this is admittedly 656 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:14,600 Speaker 1: low five election fraud, but from one single email address 657 00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:19,880 Speaker 1: early in the morning Monday of last week votes. Um. 658 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:23,359 Speaker 1: But it wasn't for the bird favored to win, mind you. 659 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:30,120 Speaker 1: That bird, in fact was like the world's fattest, largest parrot, 660 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,279 Speaker 1: heaviest parrot. You excuse me. I'm not trying to fat 661 00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:36,760 Speaker 1: shame any birds here, um body shame rather whatever. But yeah, 662 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,480 Speaker 1: that particular bird that was favored to win the Coca 663 00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:43,000 Speaker 1: poh uh. Not to be confused with the cockapoo, which 664 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:44,760 Speaker 1: is like a like a hybrid of like a cocker 665 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:48,760 Speaker 1: spaniel and a sheet su perhaps, I think that's right, Um, 666 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,200 Speaker 1: But that bird was favorite to win and was like 667 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,759 Speaker 1: up it up there in the rankings. We actually have 668 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,279 Speaker 1: a really great article for Mashville. That kind of like 669 00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,640 Speaker 1: talies up a lot of the the on the you know, 670 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:01,960 Speaker 1: like tweets like that. We're actually keeping up with this 671 00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:05,640 Speaker 1: as the announcement was coming. UM and the Cacapo was 672 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,640 Speaker 1: number two during the time of counting UM and then 673 00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:13,640 Speaker 1: only ahead slightly by the Toroa, Antipati and albatross. But 674 00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,600 Speaker 1: the Cocapo is looking really good. The number three um, 675 00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,720 Speaker 1: and this is PM on November twelve, which I believe 676 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:24,000 Speaker 1: was Thursday of last week. We have the Caruya black robin, 677 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:28,239 Speaker 1: and then the care Aria New Zealand falcon, and then 678 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,680 Speaker 1: a distant fifth we have the carrererou which doesn't have 679 00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:36,200 Speaker 1: a subtitle, but it sounds cool. Um. But swooping in 680 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,080 Speaker 1: literally that's a pun. It's a bird pun. But that's 681 00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,120 Speaker 1: I would have said it either way. UM. At that 682 00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:45,440 Speaker 1: last minute, aided by this fifteen hundred like vote blast 683 00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:50,719 Speaker 1: from the single email was um a subspecies of the 684 00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:55,640 Speaker 1: national bird of New Zealand, which is the kiwi. And 685 00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,320 Speaker 1: you know, even from a bird fearing guy like myself, 686 00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,160 Speaker 1: the Kiwi barely looks like a bird. It almost looks 687 00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:04,840 Speaker 1: like a gerbil or something with a really long, skinny beak, 688 00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,759 Speaker 1: and it's it doesn't have wings are flightless birds, which 689 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:10,879 Speaker 1: I think is interesting honestly, gives them a little more 690 00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,400 Speaker 1: uh street cred for me because part of the thing 691 00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:14,960 Speaker 1: I don't like about birds that can fly up in 692 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:18,480 Speaker 1: your face and do all kinds of you know, unpredictable shenanigans. 693 00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,000 Speaker 1: I just I'm not here for. But this Kiwi's pretty 694 00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:24,520 Speaker 1: pretty cute looking little guy. Um but that's right. All 695 00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:26,680 Speaker 1: of these votes came in for this Kiwi from a 696 00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:30,319 Speaker 1: single email address. Uh. And the the organizers of the 697 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:36,759 Speaker 1: of the contest called foul, specifically the that's specifically the 698 00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:40,600 Speaker 1: Little Spotted Kiwi because Kiwi is a family. You're right, 699 00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,520 Speaker 1: then it is the Little Spotted Kiwi. But the official 700 00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:48,440 Speaker 1: name is the Kiwi Pookoo Pookoo, which is super cute sounding. 701 00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,920 Speaker 1: Um but yeah, it was very suspicious behavior. Votes from 702 00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:56,560 Speaker 1: a single email address, um, and each of those votes 703 00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,840 Speaker 1: was in favor of this Kiwi Poko Poko. And the 704 00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,480 Speaker 1: was a statement from Forest and Bird, which is a 705 00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,640 Speaker 1: conservation organization that runs the election. Just for the record, 706 00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:12,040 Speaker 1: this whole event is simply designed to turn people onto 707 00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,960 Speaker 1: like the wildlife of their region. You know, because as 708 00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:18,839 Speaker 1: we know New Zealand is a beautiful place with very 709 00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:23,800 Speaker 1: diverse wildlife and a lot of very unusual um birds. 710 00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:27,960 Speaker 1: And and this organization put out a statement saying fraud 711 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:33,240 Speaker 1: spotted and quotes because it's a spotted Kiwi in Bird 712 00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,839 Speaker 1: of the Year votes, Forest and Bird is discovered over 713 00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:40,440 Speaker 1: fraudulent votes for the Kiwi Poko poko um in Bird 714 00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:44,560 Speaker 1: of the Year and uh the illegitimate votes briefly pushed 715 00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,200 Speaker 1: the Kiwi Poko pokoo to the top of the preferred 716 00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:51,000 Speaker 1: bird I love that leaderboard, great language and rhyming here, 717 00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:55,000 Speaker 1: but the votes have since been removed from the competition. UM. 718 00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,160 Speaker 1: A quote from Laura Keene, who's the spokesperson for Bird 719 00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,399 Speaker 1: of the Year said, it's lucky we spotted us little 720 00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,759 Speaker 1: kiwi trying to sneak in an extra votes under the 721 00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:07,600 Speaker 1: cover of darkness. Adorable, but they'll have to play by 722 00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,560 Speaker 1: the rules like all the other birds to win the competition. 723 00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:17,120 Speaker 1: So in the end, UH, the company called Dragonfly Data Science, 724 00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,840 Speaker 1: who who were responsible for tabulating the votes, They're the 725 00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:25,640 Speaker 1: ones that pegged this irregularity and they adjusted accordingly. UM. 726 00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:30,719 Speaker 1: So yeah, in the end, UM this quite large, terrifying 727 00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:35,319 Speaker 1: parrot type creature one the day. Yeah, well this, I 728 00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,120 Speaker 1: mean it's in a fair vote. It would have anyhow. 729 00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:42,400 Speaker 1: But the it's interesting because this election or this voting, 730 00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,640 Speaker 1: which I begin I think again in two thousand and five, 731 00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:49,799 Speaker 1: it's been rigged multiple times before, or people have tried 732 00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:54,960 Speaker 1: to rigg Someone tried to get the Coca cole uh 733 00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:59,160 Speaker 1: into the number one spot. Someone tried to get the 734 00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,960 Speaker 1: shag in number in the number one spot. They voted 735 00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,880 Speaker 1: like three times or something. But my favorite fact of 736 00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:10,640 Speaker 1: all is the businesses that got involved, specifically the sex 737 00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:18,480 Speaker 1: toy UHCT Adult Toy, Mega Adult Toy Megastar, which said 738 00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,400 Speaker 1: that the he he practices the he he is the 739 00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:25,480 Speaker 1: bird because it practices polyamor that's right, not to mention 740 00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:31,320 Speaker 1: that it also has unusually large testicles um and engages 741 00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:35,200 Speaker 1: in face to face mating. So it's essentially they're looking 742 00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:39,320 Speaker 1: at it as the leader of the sex positivity movement 743 00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:43,359 Speaker 1: among songbirds. And this reporting came from npr UM, so 744 00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,319 Speaker 1: they started all that out and and you're right, then 745 00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:49,640 Speaker 1: it's true. It had been attempted to be rigged multiple times. 746 00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:55,120 Speaker 1: One other election that experienced some fraudulent activity this year, 747 00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:59,160 Speaker 1: UH that apparently had never experienced this before. You guys 748 00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:02,719 Speaker 1: might remember this from your youth. Remember Nickelodeon's Kids Picked 749 00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:07,600 Speaker 1: the President competition where kids, you know, presumably with their 750 00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:11,000 Speaker 1: parents permission, either call in a number or no nowadays 751 00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:14,799 Speaker 1: you know, vote using their computers, um to pick in. 752 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:19,120 Speaker 1: It's like an election modeling situation, you know, using children. UM. 753 00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:22,040 Speaker 1: And this year they do this every year with every 754 00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,440 Speaker 1: presidential election back as far as like when Linda Ellerb 755 00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,000 Speaker 1: was the head of Nick News. Uh, and this is 756 00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:30,960 Speaker 1: Nick News kids picked the President and um, they revealed 757 00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:36,120 Speaker 1: the result of that poll, and UM this year when 758 00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:38,560 Speaker 1: they rightly they they've seen they've seen the video of it, 759 00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,440 Speaker 1: they you know, kind of drumroll please whatever. They're like 760 00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:44,359 Speaker 1: you know news anchor that comes on and tells everybody, Okay, 761 00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,440 Speaker 1: we're about to announce the winner. And then there's a 762 00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,440 Speaker 1: freeze frame and then this like full screen text message 763 00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:52,880 Speaker 1: with like a very you know, official sounding uh narrator 764 00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:56,240 Speaker 1: of voice comes on and says, before we reveal the results, 765 00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,200 Speaker 1: we need to let you in on some news. We 766 00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:01,080 Speaker 1: know you depend on Nick for fairness and honesty. I 767 00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,799 Speaker 1: sure do. UM, so we wanted to be honest with you. 768 00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,040 Speaker 1: As we conducted our vote, our tech wizards at NICK 769 00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:10,680 Speaker 1: discovered some cheating and we're able to eliminate the unfair 770 00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,719 Speaker 1: votes from our account. After lots of vetting, we feel 771 00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,880 Speaker 1: super confident in our results. And then they went on 772 00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:20,560 Speaker 1: to announce that according you know, according to the adjusted 773 00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:24,160 Speaker 1: results of the poll, that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris 774 00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,440 Speaker 1: one and it says they say, there you have it. 775 00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:31,920 Speaker 1: The kids the future have spoken, um, and you know, 776 00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:35,359 Speaker 1: and and the the fraudulent votes, of of course were 777 00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:40,040 Speaker 1: for for Donald Trump, and they came in through bots. 778 00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,279 Speaker 1: They like they were there were bots that were used 779 00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:45,480 Speaker 1: to uh to spam these results with votes for for 780 00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:47,640 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. And in the same way as the Bird 781 00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:49,360 Speaker 1: of the Year contest, they were able to kind of 782 00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:54,360 Speaker 1: identify those So obviously wasn't particularly um sophisticated, but you know, 783 00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:56,840 Speaker 1: there you have it, um. And then just just to 784 00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,040 Speaker 1: kind of breath this up with a little bit bringing 785 00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:02,839 Speaker 1: it around too, how these sort of mock elections can 786 00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:04,719 Speaker 1: kind of mirror things that are going on, or at 787 00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:09,680 Speaker 1: least accusations that are going on, um with our real elections. UM. 788 00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:11,920 Speaker 1: You know, everyone I think is aware that the uh, 789 00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,920 Speaker 1: the sitting president did not win based on what we 790 00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,960 Speaker 1: know hasn't been certified yet, but did not win either 791 00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:22,000 Speaker 1: the popular vote or the electoral college. And there have 792 00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:25,440 Speaker 1: been a lot of accusations flung around about voter fraud 793 00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:29,080 Speaker 1: and about allegations of election rigging and things without very 794 00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:32,880 Speaker 1: much you know, if any um back up. And the 795 00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,399 Speaker 1: thing that's most interesting about this to me is that 796 00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:39,040 Speaker 1: the folks you know who are making these claims aren't 797 00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:43,759 Speaker 1: offering any actual proof. But not only that, when you 798 00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:47,360 Speaker 1: see the transcripts of the lawsuits they are filing and 799 00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,640 Speaker 1: of the actual quote unquote allegations they are putting forth, 800 00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,719 Speaker 1: they're very they're not they don't hold water at all. 801 00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:55,839 Speaker 1: They're there are things like I think there were maybe 802 00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:57,920 Speaker 1: like three votes that could have been thrown out in 803 00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:00,440 Speaker 1: one of the the accusations that had to do with 804 00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,120 Speaker 1: some tampering from a poll worker. Again, it doesn't it 805 00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:04,879 Speaker 1: doesn't even matter at the end of the day. Um. 806 00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:10,080 Speaker 1: The takeaway is on paper, these accusations are very like 807 00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,840 Speaker 1: kind of petty and a little bit frivolous, and that 808 00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,840 Speaker 1: the rhetoric is is quite the opposite. We'll see obviously 809 00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:19,640 Speaker 1: what happens. But one of the most interesting and divisive 810 00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:24,880 Speaker 1: conspiracy theories around voting fraud in this that has recently 811 00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:28,480 Speaker 1: been elevated by Donald Trump, the President, in in the 812 00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,520 Speaker 1: form of a retweet, is this notion that Q and 813 00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:36,000 Speaker 1: on conspiracy theorists have put forth that the voting machines 814 00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:41,560 Speaker 1: created by a company called Dominion Voting UM somehow erased 815 00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:47,240 Speaker 1: almost a million votes for for the incumbent president. And 816 00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,560 Speaker 1: that's you know, anyone can have their own opinion about this, 817 00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,480 Speaker 1: but it's starts to argue that that the facts just 818 00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:58,240 Speaker 1: don't quite line up with that. Um. There's a statement 819 00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:01,759 Speaker 1: from Dominion Voting that or they categorically deny these false 820 00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,239 Speaker 1: assertions about vote switching issues. And then they have some 821 00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:08,600 Speaker 1: pretty compelling arguments and saying that, uh, they are a 822 00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:12,880 Speaker 1: nonpartisan US company. Um, they don't have any connections to 823 00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,840 Speaker 1: like the Pelosi family or fine Stein family or you know, 824 00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:20,640 Speaker 1: the Clinton Initiative, etcetera. And uh, they offer some fact checking. 825 00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:23,160 Speaker 1: But the most interesting thing to me is the idea 826 00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:27,640 Speaker 1: that all of these results are completely auditable. So and 827 00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:30,040 Speaker 1: that that's true, you know, you can you know, I 828 00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:31,919 Speaker 1: go in and check and see and there's a paper 829 00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:35,000 Speaker 1: trail or a digital trail. Um. But yeah, I don't 830 00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:36,719 Speaker 1: know if you guys heard anything about this, Uh, these 831 00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:42,279 Speaker 1: allegations about Dominion spontaneously deleting you know, these votes. Well, 832 00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:46,480 Speaker 1: it's it's tough because we we've talked about it in 833 00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:48,760 Speaker 1: the past, and we've shown how some of the older 834 00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:55,520 Speaker 1: voting technology that is electronic is easily um editable and 835 00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:59,400 Speaker 1: hackable if you chose to do that. It does require 836 00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:05,520 Speaker 1: direct connection, physical connection to individual machines. Um. If that's 837 00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:10,160 Speaker 1: what we're talking about here, Um, the allegations against Dominion 838 00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:14,160 Speaker 1: and specifically in theidential election here in the US. I 839 00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:17,480 Speaker 1: I have not looked fully at that, um. But it's 840 00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,040 Speaker 1: definitely something that's worth our time to at least consider 841 00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:23,560 Speaker 1: because it is a possibility. It's just whether or not 842 00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:28,880 Speaker 1: there's any validity to the claims. Um. Yeah, I mean 843 00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:33,200 Speaker 1: I would I would say that the primary issue with 844 00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:37,120 Speaker 1: Q and on is as a source would be the 845 00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:43,640 Speaker 1: rampant inaccuracy of the of the predictions. Right that that 846 00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:47,880 Speaker 1: means that they don't get stuff right, we can't consider 847 00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:51,400 Speaker 1: it an accurate source. Additionally, I think a lot of 848 00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:54,920 Speaker 1: the Q and on stuff is citing reports from a 849 00:53:55,000 --> 00:54:00,560 Speaker 1: place called one American news network, which is Uh, I'm 850 00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:03,880 Speaker 1: thinking of a food example. It's it's like the double 851 00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:08,480 Speaker 1: cheese burger to the regular burger, you know what I mean. 852 00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:11,120 Speaker 1: It's more and it's more extreme. It's got bacon on 853 00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:13,920 Speaker 1: it and blue cheese and stuff like that. I'm saying, 854 00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:17,319 Speaker 1: it's a in a level of extremity, right, So, like 855 00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:21,080 Speaker 1: one American news network will say things that fox would 856 00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:24,280 Speaker 1: never say, and for some of their supporters that's seen 857 00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:30,080 Speaker 1: as proof that Foxes maybe compromised in one way or another. Uh. 858 00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:32,640 Speaker 1: The thing is that there's a guy named Chris Krebs 859 00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:36,600 Speaker 1: who's the director of something called the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure 860 00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:41,880 Speaker 1: Security Agency, who has to delve into this, has to 861 00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:45,720 Speaker 1: figure this stuff out. And that tweet from the sitting 862 00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:50,800 Speaker 1: president is like for another video game comparison. Sorry, guys, 863 00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:53,000 Speaker 1: like when you're at the very end of your health 864 00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:55,400 Speaker 1: bar and all of a sudden you stumble across the 865 00:54:55,480 --> 00:55:00,960 Speaker 1: power of um Oddly enough, what this This kind of 866 00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:05,840 Speaker 1: thing occurs with every election. De Bold, for instance, which 867 00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:09,440 Speaker 1: made voting machines in previous U S elections, they got 868 00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:12,759 Speaker 1: accused of some of the same things. And this goes 869 00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:17,680 Speaker 1: on both sides of the political aisle differences de bold 870 00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:19,880 Speaker 1: or die b Old, whatever you wanna call them. Uh, 871 00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:25,400 Speaker 1: they were indicted on federal charges in October, So there 872 00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:28,960 Speaker 1: was something there that took the case to court. And 873 00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:32,520 Speaker 1: because of that, because of that pattern, I would argue, 874 00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:36,799 Speaker 1: if there's something, if there is something substantive to the 875 00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:41,400 Speaker 1: observation about dominion, then it will inevitably end up in court. 876 00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:45,440 Speaker 1: It hasn't yet. Is that because there hasn't been enough time? 877 00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:49,200 Speaker 1: Is that because there haven't been solid enough sources? So far, 878 00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:54,000 Speaker 1: we know that most of the legal cases that have 879 00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:58,920 Speaker 1: actually had a day in court arguing against the results 880 00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:03,680 Speaker 1: of the election. Uh, most of those cases, to my knowledge, 881 00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:07,400 Speaker 1: have been thrown out for lack of what the judge 882 00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:11,160 Speaker 1: considered evidence. So these are things the judge decides. And 883 00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:14,160 Speaker 1: if you want to laugh, you should read the you 884 00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:16,360 Speaker 1: can find the transcripts. You should read what some of 885 00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:19,640 Speaker 1: these judges are saying, because they've they're coming in hot, 886 00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:23,719 Speaker 1: they're punchy, they've had a long day. Uh, it's it's 887 00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:27,080 Speaker 1: so what's your problem? And I think was like the 888 00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:29,919 Speaker 1: final word where there was some back and forth from 889 00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:34,359 Speaker 1: the judge h clarifying what was actually being presented because 890 00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:36,560 Speaker 1: I think he almost seemed a little mystified by it 891 00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:39,680 Speaker 1: and ended up being what he considered a non issue. 892 00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:44,200 Speaker 1: And then even I think the lawyer presenting it essentially said, 893 00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:47,200 Speaker 1: what'sn't that big of a deal, And then the judge said, 894 00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:49,239 Speaker 1: so what's your problem? But I want to go back 895 00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:51,600 Speaker 1: to this idea of like one of the accusations being 896 00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:55,920 Speaker 1: that there were like spontaneous or last minute software updates 897 00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:59,799 Speaker 1: that you know, gave some kind of special ability to 898 00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:03,240 Speaker 1: the software are caused glitches UM and you know, Spalding 899 00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:06,960 Speaker 1: County and the Georgia Secretary of State have verified that 900 00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:11,440 Speaker 1: this is not possible. And the logs from the equipment 901 00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:15,080 Speaker 1: UM that have been you know, received by county officials, 902 00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:17,480 Speaker 1: uh did not you know, show that there there was 903 00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:21,000 Speaker 1: no like spontaneous UM update. And then also these these 904 00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:23,480 Speaker 1: are these are self contained machines. They're they're not connected 905 00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:25,880 Speaker 1: to the Internet directly. They have to be you know, 906 00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:29,280 Speaker 1: like that that's the whole point. There's not a centralized 907 00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:33,120 Speaker 1: like place where otherwise why wouldn't just internet voting be okay? 908 00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:34,920 Speaker 1: Like that's sort of the whole idea is that they 909 00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:37,920 Speaker 1: are self contained. You are ultimately doing your ballot and 910 00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:40,440 Speaker 1: then feeding it into a into a machine that's scanning it, 911 00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:43,840 Speaker 1: and then they have to offload that information or create 912 00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:48,200 Speaker 1: a actual paper, you know, version of it in some way, 913 00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:51,440 Speaker 1: shape or form. Yeah, And in the issue with the report, 914 00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:55,440 Speaker 1: going back to UM, going back to that one American 915 00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:57,840 Speaker 1: news network report. The issue with that, from what I 916 00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:04,240 Speaker 1: understand is that a they built their report on accusations 917 00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:09,200 Speaker 1: of conspiracy from what they call data obtained from Edison Research. 918 00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:14,080 Speaker 1: The problem is Edison Research came out and said they 919 00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:17,560 Speaker 1: have not published any report proving any kind of allegations. 920 00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:20,480 Speaker 1: And furthermore, they haven't published it because they don't have 921 00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:23,760 Speaker 1: any quantitative data about it. So if people who are 922 00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:27,560 Speaker 1: being cited as a source say that the thing they're 923 00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:31,360 Speaker 1: being cited for never actually occurred, if you if you 924 00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:34,600 Speaker 1: believe in this theory, then maybe it's just a propaganda war. 925 00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:40,120 Speaker 1: But again, we saw the same accusations with Dipald. That's 926 00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:43,480 Speaker 1: what I keep going back to and Dibald. The the 927 00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:46,880 Speaker 1: issues were switched, right or the political parties were switched. 928 00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:51,520 Speaker 1: So Dominion Voting Systems has their own official statement to 929 00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:54,520 Speaker 1: which I'm sure we all saw. They told a p 930 00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:59,280 Speaker 1: that they have no issues of Shenanigan's. But then again, 931 00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:01,840 Speaker 1: of worst they would say that, you know what I mean, 932 00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:03,840 Speaker 1: the government of Russia is not going to come out 933 00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:07,480 Speaker 1: and say, oh yeah, man Putin is poh wild, and 934 00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:11,040 Speaker 1: Dominion Voting Systems is not gonna take what's doubtlessly one 935 00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:15,400 Speaker 1: of the biggest contracts of their corporate career and say, yeah, 936 00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:19,120 Speaker 1: we really we whipped on that one. We had couldn't 937 00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:21,920 Speaker 1: have it. I mean, I mean, thank you for getting us, 938 00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:24,680 Speaker 1: you know, through the process, with all the money and 939 00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:26,760 Speaker 1: and all the contracts and stuff. But yeah, we really 940 00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:29,520 Speaker 1: messed up. So don't call us again please, But for 941 00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:38,160 Speaker 1: future elections, remember Dominion Voting Systems, no refunds. Uh. And 942 00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:40,240 Speaker 1: that's how think it's a good place. It's a good 943 00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:42,360 Speaker 1: place to wrap that one up. So we got bird 944 00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:49,600 Speaker 1: fraud definitely confirmed. Uh kids, presidential election simulator fraud confirmed, 945 00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:55,760 Speaker 1: dealt with handled on both counts. Um not. Yeah. The 946 00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:59,440 Speaker 1: whiz kids in Nickelodeon sorted that right out. Feeling like 947 00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:02,240 Speaker 1: we're lack ging and the evidence a little bit even 948 01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:05,880 Speaker 1: compared to those accounts, you know, for this US presidential election. 949 01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:08,760 Speaker 1: But I'm I'm of an open mind, you know, I'll 950 01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:11,720 Speaker 1: keep up. I'm certainly uh ready to take a look 951 01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:14,560 Speaker 1: at whatever evidence is presented, but so far it hasn't 952 01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:19,480 Speaker 1: been super super impressive. Yeah, you know, who doesn't love 953 01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:22,680 Speaker 1: a good expose? Absolutely? How crazy would it be if 954 01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:26,400 Speaker 1: it turned out that millions of votes had disappeared? The 955 01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:28,600 Speaker 1: problem is right now, just as you said, no, only 956 01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:30,840 Speaker 1: we don't have I don't have the proof of it, 957 01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:33,520 Speaker 1: and we have to remember that, yes, all this weird 958 01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:36,000 Speaker 1: stuff for Great Russia, we don't have the proof of it, 959 01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:38,120 Speaker 1: and we have to remember that we One thing we 960 01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:41,080 Speaker 1: do have proof of is that you could probably build 961 01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:44,320 Speaker 1: a weapon that shoots lightning wherever the heck you wanted, 962 01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:47,680 Speaker 1: as long as you pick up the lightning somewhere else. 963 01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:51,160 Speaker 1: It was actually listening to ride to lightning before we 964 01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:55,400 Speaker 1: got started today. And that is our strange news. We 965 01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:58,440 Speaker 1: want to hear from you. What local votes have you 966 01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:03,760 Speaker 1: seen rigged our you? The infamous pro Keywi faction in 967 01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:07,640 Speaker 1: the Bird of the Year vote is locked up like 968 01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:12,840 Speaker 1: the bird jail. They have been They have been exiled 969 01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:15,440 Speaker 1: from New Zealand. They don't take kindly to that kind 970 01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:17,960 Speaker 1: of behavior there. They got some weird laws I got, 971 01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:19,720 Speaker 1: I got in trouble with New Zealand one time they 972 01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:23,160 Speaker 1: got they got some specific stuff. But but we want 973 01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:24,800 Speaker 1: to hear from you. We also want to hear what 974 01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:26,920 Speaker 1: you think is going on Russia. We want to hear 975 01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:32,840 Speaker 1: what you think will happen with this amazing Promethean lightning technology. 976 01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:35,840 Speaker 1: We try to make ourselves easy to find as a show, 977 01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:37,880 Speaker 1: at least so you can hit us up on the 978 01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:42,200 Speaker 1: internet Instagram, Twitter, Facebook. We love to recommend Here's where 979 01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:44,439 Speaker 1: it gets crazy, where you can hang out with our 980 01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:48,720 Speaker 1: favorite part of the show, your fellow listeners. But if 981 01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:53,040 Speaker 1: you hate, hate, hate social media, we get it. If 982 01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:56,040 Speaker 1: you're more of like an auditory communicator and learner boy, 983 01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:58,760 Speaker 1: that we have just the place for you. 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