1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in everybody. 3 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 2: Tuesday edition of The Clay Travis en Buck Sexton Show 4 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 2: is kicking off right now. Appreciate you rolling with us. 5 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 2: As always much to discuss. We'll be getting into all 6 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 2: of it today with you. We have the bud Loot sorry, 7 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 2: bud Light boycott is crushing sales for that company down 8 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 2: twenty six percent, which is I think even more than 9 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 2: a lot of people anticipated who were pushing for this. 10 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 2: That's when you start getting close to a thirty percent 11 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 2: sales drop, the corporate executive folks are going to be 12 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 2: hitting the panic button a bit. So that we're going 13 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 2: to discuss in just a moment some new palling out 14 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 2: Trump and DeSantis. Trump topping DeSantis right now latest Paul 15 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 2: this reported on by The Hill thirty six points. Trump 16 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 2: is ahead of DeSantis. Plus Clay's got some data on 17 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:05,559 Speaker 2: who has allready decided, like who in the GOP side 18 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 2: isn't waiting to see how any primary plays out. I mean, 19 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 2: we're expecting a Tim Scott entry into the race, whom 20 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 2: we're expecting, So Senator Scott, we're expecting obviously Ron DeSantis 21 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:23,119 Speaker 2: and perhaps a few others, and then we'll get into 22 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 2: the latest details on it. Also a story that I 23 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:28,479 Speaker 2: want to speak you about. On the law enforcement side, 24 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 2: we have a former Minneapolis police officer, Tao Tao Tao 25 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 2: or To Tao, who was not in any way violent 26 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 2: against George Floyd. This is now going back to the 27 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 2: George Floyd incident. But he was holding back bystanders. He 28 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 2: was just another officer called to the scene. He just 29 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 2: got four years in prison after being fired from his job. 30 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 2: They called him aiding or they charged him and now 31 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 2: convicted him with aiding and abetting manslaughter. 32 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: Which this is This is political, this is mob justice. 33 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: This is wrong. We will discuss this, and. 34 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 2: Then also the Biden administration Clay sending or considering at 35 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 2: this point sending fifteen hundred active duty US troops to 36 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 2: the southern border in anticipation of the deluge of illegal 37 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 2: crossings that we are all expecting on to get even bigger, 38 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,119 Speaker 2: I mean, more of it on the eleventh of May, 39 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 2: when Title forty two expires. 40 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 1: But let's start off with the. 41 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:39,679 Speaker 2: Bud Light situation. You know, Clay, one thing I've seen 42 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,519 Speaker 2: on the right that has been interesting. Is the back 43 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 2: and forth. 44 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 1: Over how much how much pain is enough? 45 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 2: I will say I spoke to someone recently who pointed out, 46 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 2: you know, yeah, it's the message is being sent to 47 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 2: bud Light, but you have distributors and salespeople and folks 48 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 2: that had nothing to do with this who are obviously 49 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 2: also very much being affected by So the right has mobilized. 50 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 2: Is that what's the right strategy at this point to 51 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 2: just stay with it or to say I think the 52 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 2: point has been made, bud Light should have and if 53 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 2: bud Light apologizes formally to its you know, it's consumers, 54 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 2: it's customers, move on and just let everybody know that 55 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 2: this can happen. Or do you think that you think 56 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 2: it's got to suffer a little bit more before the 57 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 2: message really gets through. 58 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: I would add on more steam. 59 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 3: I think this is and this is important because I 60 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 3: think this is the most effective brushback pitch that anyone 61 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 3: has ever thrown at a company for woke related advertising. 62 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 3: And let me just give you a couple of quotes here. 63 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 3: As you mentioned, they're down twenty six point one percent 64 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 3: from a year earlier in April of twenty two. That's 65 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 3: Beer Business Daily, that's the bud lighte sells volume and 66 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 3: every week is continuing to get worse, Beer Business Daily said, 67 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 3: and this is their quote. The shocking deterioration of bud 68 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 3: Light's market share continued through the third week of April 69 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 3: and actually somehow worsened. We've never seen such a dramatic 70 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 3: shift in national share in such a short period of time, 71 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 3: Beer Business Daily wrote on its website. And I would 72 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 3: presume that Beer Business Daily is fairly well plugged in 73 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 3: on the beer beer business. 74 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 2: I was gonna say they're getting more of a plug 75 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 2: here on this show than I have in a long time. 76 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: I've never heard of this site before. 77 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 3: That's a that's a very specific and targeted audience that 78 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 3: the Beer Business Daily is focused on. 79 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:53,919 Speaker 1: All right, So what is going on here? Let me 80 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 1: just I think this is an instructive for our audience. Buck. 81 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,119 Speaker 1: We love all the advertisers that we have on this show. 82 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 3: This is among the biggest and most lucrative radio shows 83 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 3: audio programs really anywhere in the country. But you guys, 84 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 3: we've been on this show for two years. Everybody out 85 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 3: there listening, have you ever heard a beer or liquor 86 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 3: advertise on this program? Have you ever heard a restaurant. 87 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 3: You ever heard a car? Have you ever heard a 88 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 3: TV show or a movie? Have you ever heard any 89 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 3: sports league advertise? I just bring all of that up 90 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 3: because Rush was boycotted by advertisers, because the woke advertising 91 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 3: industry decided that all of you out there listening to 92 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 3: us right now, your opinions don't matter. They consider you 93 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 3: to be toxic to be reached. I don't care if 94 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 3: bud Light wants to add advertised to trans people, and 95 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 3: they're also advertising to people who believe in the Second 96 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 3: Amendment and the Constitution. 97 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: Right. 98 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:14,239 Speaker 3: If bud Light's perspective buck was we want every single 99 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 3: American to drink our beer, and so we are going 100 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 3: to spend our advertising money evenly across the entire landscape 101 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 3: of American thought, then I would say, okay, you know what, 102 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 3: that makes sense. But that's not what happens. The advertising 103 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 3: industry and the biggest brands out there are the wokest 104 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 3: in all of America, and they have gotten rich off 105 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 3: the idea that all they have to do is cater 106 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 3: to the far left wing. And that's how this Dylan 107 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 3: Mulvany idiocy happened. Bud Light has gotten used to as 108 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 3: all these other brands have buck that there is no 109 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 3: negative association that ever comes from being too woke. And 110 00:06:57,920 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 3: this is one of the first times I've seen a 111 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 3: real solid punchback as people said, this is unacceptable. 112 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 2: There's a choke point here that you're you're addressing in 113 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 2: our society, and that is if you can control you know, 114 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 2: people will often say, why is it that there's ninety 115 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 2: ninety five percent of journalism quote unquote journalism that all 116 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 2: comes from one side of the ideological spectrum? 117 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: Right? How does that happen? 118 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 2: Why are there so many more sites out there and 119 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 2: different corporate media outlets that are avowedly democrat aligned and 120 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 2: left wing than on the right. And you know, people 121 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 2: will say, and it's really trolling. I mean there'll be 122 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 2: you know, if we ask Chuck Todd this, you would 123 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 2: just say, well, that's. 124 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: What the people want. 125 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 2: No, that's actually not a function of what the people want, 126 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 2: because we know half the country at least is right 127 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 2: of center or center right, whatever you want to designate 128 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 2: it as. But when they control the choke point of 129 00:07:53,520 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 2: advertising dollars, that's effectively deciding what businesses can exist. Right, 130 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 2: So if the ad agency it's very hard to get 131 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:04,239 Speaker 2: going and get started. 132 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 1: And this is one component of it. When you talk about. 133 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 2: Bud Light and their in house ads, what about Google, 134 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 2: what about Facebook? You start to look at the biggest 135 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 2: ad agencies or rather ad purveyors really out there, the 136 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 2: ones that have more control over the advertising market than 137 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 2: anything else. They are exercising enormous influence on all companies, 138 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 2: not just media companies, to adopt certain political stances and 139 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 2: to deal with their customers in a certain way. And 140 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 2: it's pernicious because what's the accountability for that, right? I 141 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 2: mean what It's very tough to get at let's say 142 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 2: Google or Facebook, or honestly, any of the Madison Avenue advertisers, 143 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 2: no matter how left wing they are, because they're a 144 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 2: little removed from it. They're not telling the audience we 145 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 2: hate you, we think you're destroying our democracy. They have 146 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 2: to say it in that register, has to be high pitched. 147 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 2: They're not saying that. They're saying, well, we just won't 148 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 2: do business with center right companies, or will punish any 149 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 2: company that veers into center right territory or even refuse us. 150 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 2: And this is even more extreme, which is what we've 151 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 2: seen refuses to toe the line of left wing lunacy, 152 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 2: which is now where we are right now. It's if 153 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 2: you don't have people putting their pronouns and email signatures enough. 154 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: Maybe they don't want to do business with you. 155 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 2: If you're not on shot number nine and not Fauci approved, 156 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 2: maybe you're not going to get that huge ad campaign 157 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 2: with you know, Mercedes Benz or bud Light. 158 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 3: Well, and this is where the left has been far 159 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 3: more successful. And you guys who listen to Rush for 160 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 3: a long time know exactly what I'm talking about. They 161 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 3: realize that they couldn't win in the marketplace of ideas. 162 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 3: Right If people want to come after you, Buck or 163 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 3: me or anybody else and say, hey, we think their 164 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 3: opinion is dumb on this issue and they want to 165 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 3: argue against us, I welcome it. That's how the marketplace 166 00:09:55,800 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 3: of ideas is. But the difference is the left said, oh, 167 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 3: we're not even going to try to win the argument 168 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 3: with the Russian limbbaws of the world. We're just gonna 169 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 3: try to shut him down. And the way they tried 170 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 3: to shut them down again not by winning arguments, but 171 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 3: by trying to make this show and many other shows 172 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 3: so toxic that major advertisers wouldn't spend money on them. 173 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 3: And look, there are shows out there with a pinprick 174 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 3: of this audience that have eight different car companies, every 175 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 3: beer under the sun trying to advertise with them. And 176 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 3: so my position on this is you have to send 177 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 3: a message sometimes that the other side will punch back. 178 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 3: And I want bud Light to continue to suffer here 179 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 3: because every brand I want in the back of their 180 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 3: head them to think about what might happen. Here's a 181 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 3: good example from sports. 182 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: Buck. You know what a great safety does in football. 183 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: He makes every wide receiver coming over the middle think 184 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:01,839 Speaker 1: this guy's gonna take my head off to play, right, 185 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: That's what ever know. I was gonna say that, but yea. 186 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, he might not do it every play, But what 187 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 3: happens is those receivers don't come across as aggressively when 188 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,319 Speaker 3: there's a big hitter out there. And I think there 189 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 3: are a lot of brands right now having meetings and 190 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 3: they're saying, we don't want to get bud whited. Do 191 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 3: we really need to spend our money this way? 192 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: Do you know? Have you ever seen this? 193 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 2: And and maybe maybe we could link to these guys 194 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 2: I'll send it to the team because it maybe think 195 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 2: of this Clay, this guy Ryan Long who's a comedian, 196 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 2: fantastic and yes, and Fisher who's who's also a comedian, 197 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 2: and they these guys are great. They do a whole thing, 198 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 2: a whole send up of left wing versus right wings speak. 199 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: If we need to, we need to play. 200 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 2: You play some of this because I mean they nail Look, 201 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 2: you know, we have to take a little bit of 202 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 2: you know, on the on the right, we sell freedom water, 203 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 2: you know, I mean that's kind of what that's our 204 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 2: sponsor is water that loves freedom. 205 00:11:57,840 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 1: Okay, they're taking a little shot. 206 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 2: At us, but you know the truth is, if you're 207 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 2: buying water from people who actually love America in the Constitution, 208 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 2: you are putting your dollars where your where your beliefs are. 209 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 2: To me funnier, but they give it to both sides 210 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 2: a little bit. The funnier part of it is when 211 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 2: they have this guy who seems a tie fish by 212 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 2: the way, Ty Fisher is his name the community. He's 213 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 2: a really funny guy and he's a conservative. He does 214 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 2: the left wing sponsors And I'll send this to the team, 215 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 2: will play the ass we come back left wing sponsors. 216 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 2: He's like, hey, guys, welcome to the socialism are brought 217 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 2: to you by HBO, Hulu and Netflix, you know, or 218 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 2: it's you know, hey, welcome to the communists sit down, 219 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 2: sponsored by Amazon, and you sit here, you're like, this 220 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 2: is true. Yea, we have these radical left wing politics. 221 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 2: If you go look at some of these podcasts that 222 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 2: are like, yeah, like you know, Revolution, Powder to the People, 223 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 2: universal basic income, somehow they're sponsored. 224 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: By Visa and MasterCard. But if you go on conservative shows, 225 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:58,959 Speaker 1: you know it's and you know what it is. 226 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 2: It is deck of the perception building up and the 227 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 2: activist community of the left weaponizing this that if you 228 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 2: put money on a conservative show, doesn't matter what the 229 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 2: return is, we will come after you. And that's been 230 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 2: the perception that has now turned into just an almost 231 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 2: universal belief. Maybe the bud Light moment also starts to 232 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:18,839 Speaker 2: shift that a little bit. 233 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, and here's what I would tell bud Light if 234 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 3: I were advising them, I would say, just announce that 235 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 3: you're going to advertise everywhere. I would pour money into 236 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 3: Fox News. I would pour money into Clay and Buck, 237 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 3: I would pour money into OutKick Right. I would go 238 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 3: out there and say we want to try to reach 239 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 3: every consumer, because I'll tell you right now, this thing 240 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 3: is landing. And what's also becoming very apparent is if 241 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 3: you're the guy who drinks the bud Light, a lot 242 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 3: of your buddies are making fun of you now, and 243 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 3: so you're just switching and you're like, I'll just drink someone, 244 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 3: I'll drink Cores Light, I'll drink Miller Light. And that's 245 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 3: what the data is reflecting. People aren't abandoning beer, they're 246 00:13:58,720 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 3: just drinking different brands. 247 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 2: They're turning bud Light into like the Crocs of beer. 248 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 2: Remember when everybody was wearing crocs because they were so comfortable, 249 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 2: Then all of a sudden, if you wear crocs on 250 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 2: your feet, people were like, hey man, I don't want 251 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 2: to stand. 252 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 1: You know what cycle back? Crocs are cool? Pot. I 253 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 1: know kids. 254 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 3: Wear crocs like they have the amount of money that 255 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 3: I spent on crocs down at. 256 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: Kids wear the crocs. Now I didn't even know. 257 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 2: I knew they had made a little bit of a comeback, 258 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 2: but I thought crocks are wildly popular. 259 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: Now. 260 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 3: They went from imminently mockable as you're talking about, to now, 261 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 3: if you've got grandkids or you've got kids, there's almost 262 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 3: one hundred percent chance they're wearing crocs. I mean it's crazy, Okay, 263 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 3: speaking of a company that'll stand up for you. My 264 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 3: pillow deal of the year going right now, just in 265 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 3: time for Mother's Day. My slippers. They are amazing one 266 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 3: hundred and fifty dollars value. 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Click on the radio 283 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 3: listener Square use Clay and Buck do it today Clay, 284 00:15:56,040 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 3: Travis and Buck Sexton chuck up a wine reality Welcome 285 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 3: back in Play Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of 286 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 3: you hanging out with us as we roll through the 287 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 3: Tuesday edition of the program. We're gonna play maybe in 288 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 3: the next segment some of that fun as we were 289 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 3: discussing advertiser callouts because I do I do think this 290 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 3: is a big story, but the positive is it can 291 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 3: shift really really quickly. And Buck, I wanted to play 292 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 3: this because the Biden White House has now essentially ended 293 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 3: all restrictions on people coming into the country as it 294 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 3: pertains to COVID and I know you played on Friday 295 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 3: Randy Weingarten getting called out to her face over the 296 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 3: lies that she's been telling. How about CNN now, Aaron 297 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 3: Burnett says, going after Vivek Murphy, the Surgeon General, asking 298 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 3: why kids had to wear masks, asks. 299 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 4: Quote from a broad public health standpoint, at the population level, 300 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 4: masks work at the margins maybe ten percent, but for 301 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 4: an individual who religiously wears a mask, a well fitted 302 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 4: kN ninety five or N ninety five, it's not that 303 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 4: the margin it really does work. Do you see how 304 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 4: some find this an extremely significant statement because for most 305 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:19,959 Speaker 4: of us, we were told it didn't matter what kind 306 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 4: of mask, any mask was good. Our kids had to 307 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 4: wear masks for an extra year and a half in school, 308 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 4: and none of them wore them the right way. That 309 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 4: hearing that is upsetting to a lot of people. 310 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 5: Well, I can certainly understand it. For many people who 311 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 5: were listening closely to the messages that were coming through 312 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:36,919 Speaker 5: and guidance as to what to do when they recognize it, 313 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 5: sometimes guidance shifted and involved over time that could be disconcerting. 314 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 1: They lied to you. They lied to you, is what 315 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:45,360 Speaker 1: actually happened. 316 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 2: And now people in this audience knew that, Clay, but 317 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 2: also this was an intelligence test, and our people, our 318 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 2: side knew that masks were a joke. 319 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: It was the oh so smart coastal Ely. 320 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 2: Democrats that were masking up their kids in school all day. 321 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 3: I just love that suddenly the truth can be told 322 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 3: on CNN, and I think it's significant. We'll talk about 323 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 3: that because they're now trying to bring Trump on for 324 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 3: a town hall, which is a pretty big deal. 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I'm really curious to hear 343 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:08,919 Speaker 2: what a lot of you think about the decision made 344 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 2: by President Trump number forty. 345 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: Five to. 346 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 2: Go with a CNN town hall next week. Now, now 347 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 2: we've said this before, Clay and I both know Caitlin 348 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 2: Collins a little bit. 349 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 1: She's a she's a nice lady. 350 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:32,199 Speaker 2: Not one of the uh infamous left wing hatchet men 351 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 2: or hatchet women over there in the way that a lot. 352 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: Of the other hosts are. 353 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 2: But I think it's an interesting move, Clay, because it 354 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,439 Speaker 2: leaves certainly leaves open the possibility that what Trump is 355 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 2: gonna say is that he's not even running a primary campaign. Really, 356 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 2: he's a head by now almost forty points. So you know, 357 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 2: we asked this question, yesterdam We asked it in all earnestness, like, Okay, 358 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 2: we want Trump's the nominee. Trump, we want to win. 359 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 2: How does he get there? What does it look like, 360 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 2: what's the strategy? And independent voters won them in twenty sixteen, 361 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 2: what happened didn't win them based on the numbers in 362 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,360 Speaker 2: twenty twenty, so we know where we are. 363 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: I think Trump may be able to put this as. 364 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 2: Reaching beyond the you know, the GOP base and trying 365 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 2: to because there are some there's a lot of people 366 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 2: watching CNN obviously, but there are some independence watching CNN, 367 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:29,719 Speaker 2: and a lot more people are going to watch the 368 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 2: CNN for this Trump town hall certainly than normally would 369 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 2: so for them makes a lot of sense from a 370 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 2: business perspective. How do you see the politics of this, 371 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 2: because it seems like to get into this so early on, 372 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:44,679 Speaker 2: it's definitely a move. There's definitely something going on in 373 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 2: the Trump camp here that wasn't necessarily. 374 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: What people expected. 375 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 3: I think it's super smart of Trump to do. To 376 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 3: see an in town hall. You know that it's going 377 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 3: to be unfair, you know that it's going to be 378 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 3: rigged somewhat against him, but there are going to be 379 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 3: millions of people who watch. And I think Trump when 380 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 3: he can get in front of an audience that expects 381 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:11,199 Speaker 3: him to be satan and they actually watch him and 382 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 3: he seems fairly likable and fairly reasonable and fairly competent, 383 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 3: it's a huge win. 384 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: And I'm actually less surprised. 385 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 3: That Trump would do it, and more surprised to me 386 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 3: buck this ties in with Randy Weiningarten not being protected anymore, 387 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 3: the VEC Murphy not being protected anymore. 388 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 1: It feels to me like CNN. 389 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 3: Is actually making a concerted effort to be somewhat somewhat 390 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 3: of a fair and reasonable network, right, And I think 391 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 3: putting Trump on the CNN base audience to the extent 392 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 3: and still exists, I would think would be losing its 393 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 3: mind over this decision. And with the firing of Don Lemon, 394 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:05,159 Speaker 3: with the firing of Brian Stelter, with the people that 395 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 3: they have kicked to the curb, CNN seems to me 396 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 3: to be making a concerted effort to tell you, hey, 397 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 3: we're not trying to say you and the MAGA voters 398 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 3: are all evil now, which was clearly the Jeff Zucker 399 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 3: directive that went down basically from the moment Trump was elected. 400 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:27,919 Speaker 1: Because remember he had a pretty good repute, He had 401 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 1: a pretty. 402 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:32,199 Speaker 3: Good relationship with CNN until he actually won and then 403 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 3: it was like, oh crap, what have we done. I 404 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 3: think this is super smart of Trump. I also think 405 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:42,360 Speaker 3: buck this allows Trump to say, if he doesn't go 406 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 3: and do the RNC debates in August, he can be like, look, 407 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 3: I went and did a town hall with CNN. Everybody 408 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:52,360 Speaker 3: can hear my opinion, but it's his opinion without somebody 409 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,120 Speaker 3: being able to challenge it. Who's trying to win the nomination, 410 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:56,919 Speaker 3: So I think this is a huge win for Trump. 411 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 2: I just don't see, you know, Caitlin Colin, who's the 412 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 2: host of this That to me is interesting, not just 413 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 2: you know. 414 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: I always say this too. 415 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 2: I feel like I have an obligation if I know, 416 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 2: if I know and like somebody in real life, one, 417 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 2: I'm not going to trash them on a show. And 418 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 2: two I always feel like I should tell the audience 419 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 2: right to say. It's like if you have a vested 420 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 2: interest in a company, right, and you've got to You've 421 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 2: got to disclose if someone is a nice person in 422 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 2: real life that I know, I want to disclose that. 423 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 2: But objectively speaking, Caitlin is an interesting choice for CNN 424 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 2: to what you were saying, because she's not if I 425 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 2: was sitting in that room with you know, Zucker and 426 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 2: the rest of the CNN cabal back when they became 427 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 2: the anti Trump network, cable would be one of the 428 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 2: last choices for an ambush. 429 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not saying, well, we'll see what ends up happening. 430 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 2: I obviously it hasn't been it hasn't been aired yet, 431 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 2: we haven't actually seen what the questions are. 432 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 1: Et cetera. 433 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 2: But there are other people still on the CNN payroll, 434 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 2: who if you were trying to set Trump up for 435 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:01,120 Speaker 2: a totally unfair look. To your point, they're gonna pick 436 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,120 Speaker 2: and choose questions that are gonna be hard for him. 437 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 2: They're not going to pick an audience that's favorable to him. 438 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 2: It's rigged, but it's gonna be a it's rigged differently 439 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:11,959 Speaker 2: than what I think you would see if you had 440 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 2: Don Lemon could have been hosting this thing. 441 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 1: It's basically what I'm saying. I mean, not anymore, but. 442 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 2: He could have been somebody that you would have picked 443 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 2: and said, this whole thing is a scam and a sham. 444 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 2: So I do think it's interesting if Trump is able 445 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 2: to come through this and look pretty reasonable to the 446 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 2: moderate voters, whatever numbers they're going to be in watching CNN, because, 447 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 2: like we said yesterday, the big question is how does 448 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 2: he win back those independents? And I think he's gonna 449 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 2: just take it as an opportunity to focus on how 450 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 2: crappy the Biden administration has been to this point, and the. 451 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:45,120 Speaker 1: Economy right now. 452 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 2: It's still amazing, Clay, how little focused there is on 453 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 2: bank failures, perhaps more bank failures, commercial real estate sector 454 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:55,959 Speaker 2: everyone's kind of like, yeah, everything's just fine. 455 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah. 456 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 3: Look, here's the other thing I would say, only do live. 457 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 3: You know that there's the the great clip effort. Will 458 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 3: do it live that everybody shares all the time of 459 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 3: Bill O'Reilly getting upset. 460 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,199 Speaker 1: Because the taping couldn't go on. 461 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 3: If I were Trump and I were advising him right now, 462 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 3: and by the way, I would say the same thing 463 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 3: to Ron DeSantis or Nicky Haley or Viva Gramaswami, anybody 464 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,120 Speaker 3: else out there that's running for president. Don't do recorded 465 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 3: interviews because you know this buck when you sit for 466 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,239 Speaker 3: a work, unless it's someone that you love, all right, 467 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 3: If you want to do a recorded interview with Sean 468 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,199 Speaker 3: Hannity and you know he's going to be fair or 469 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 3: Tucker as Trump did, and you. 470 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 1: Know that's just based on their trust. 471 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 2: You actually trust that person, and you know you can 472 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,640 Speaker 2: put trust in I put trust in a pilot today 473 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 2: to get me, you know, to Nashville. 474 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: So you got to put trusted people sometimes. 475 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:54,640 Speaker 3: So I won't do recorded interviews at this point unless 476 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 3: the entire interview is going to air. And that's because 477 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 3: if somebody wants to take issue with one of my opinions. 478 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 1: You know, we talked for three hours every day. 479 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 3: They can do it, but I don't want to talk 480 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 3: to somebody for an hour and have them take three 481 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 3: sentences of my quotes and take them out of context. 482 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 3: And I certainly don't want that to happen if I'm 483 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 3: running for president of the United States, I don't want 484 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 3: even to do everything. I feel very strongly about this. 485 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:21,880 Speaker 3: But there's been a whole shift here. 486 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 2: I mean, I think back to even when I when 487 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 2: I left government work and started in media Clay, there 488 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 2: was just this expectation that you were going to get 489 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 2: Romney's style fed to the left wing wolves in the 490 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 2: media and just take it right Bush for how many years, 491 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:42,199 Speaker 2: just you know, I'm gonna sit down with the New 492 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 2: York Times. They're gonna say, you know, I'm really stupid, 493 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 2: and they're gonna do all these cartoons or my eyes 494 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 2: are too close together and I'm some you know, imbecile. 495 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 2: And there was just this punching bag mentality for the GOP, 496 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 2: and including not just sitting presidents but in presidential elections 497 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,120 Speaker 2: where you would have it who was it. I remember 498 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 2: when John Harwood with that guy who went over to CNN. 499 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 2: Used to be at CNBC one of those places. It 500 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 2: was just so obvious from one of the early Republican 501 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 2: primary debates in the twenty sixteen cycle, that he was 502 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 2: a hatchet man, right, that he's just there to attack people, 503 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,199 Speaker 2: undermine them, do the bidding of the left. People have 504 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 2: changed their thinking on this now, the RNC finally, you know, 505 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 2: even a broken clock, right, the RNC is finally seeing 506 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,159 Speaker 2: this for what it is and changing their approach to 507 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,640 Speaker 2: how we should interact with media. But I won't even 508 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 2: do the you know, I used to think, well, if 509 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 2: you give them a written quote, what can they do 510 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,679 Speaker 2: with that? In terms of regime media? So when the 511 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 2: New York Times or Politico or any of them come 512 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:42,919 Speaker 2: to me and say, you know, would you like to 513 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 2: give written comment on this or whatever, there was a 514 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,679 Speaker 2: time when I would say, you know what, you know, 515 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,400 Speaker 2: what are they going to do if I if they 516 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 2: have to use the words I give them as a 517 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,120 Speaker 2: record of that, Yeah, well what if they introduce you 518 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 2: as you know, COVID denying right wing extremist blobbity blah, 519 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 2: and then put your quote there? What's the point. People 520 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 2: have to understand what the game is that they're really in. 521 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 2: They're activists, they're partisans, and they're not looking to be honest. 522 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 2: We'll see if CNN decides that it wants to be 523 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 2: slightly less extreme in its inclination to help Democrats in 524 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 2: order to try to attract viewers, which they could start 525 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 2: to do if they changed it up. 526 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 1: A little bit, no doubt. 527 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 3: And again I always say, and we've said the same 528 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 3: thing on this program, if the view wanted me to 529 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 3: go on, and even if I knew they were going 530 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,199 Speaker 3: to be unfair and they were gonna rip me, I 531 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 3: feel like, in speaking to the views audience, even if 532 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 3: seventy percent of them are like I hate Clay Travis, 533 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 3: He's the worst human being ever, thirty percent of them 534 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 3: might be persuadable. I would go on CNN Town Hall 535 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 3: Live if I were Trump in a heartbeat, because the 536 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 3: seventy percent who think you're the devil are unlikely to 537 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 3: be sated by your devil re because he's not actually 538 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 3: that much of an awful human being when you actually 539 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 3: watch him. Right, the idea that they have built up 540 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 3: of Trump in their brains is so unfulfilled by Trump himself. 541 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 3: And then there's thirty percent of people that I think 542 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 3: are persuadable, even who are watching on CNN, and they're 543 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 3: going to agree with a lot of what Trump says 544 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:21,479 Speaker 3: because it's much of it rational, reasonable, fairly moderate in nature. 545 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 2: Buck, The best Trump we've seen is, I mean terms 546 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 2: of just performance, right, in terms of connection, is live, 547 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 2: unscripted Trump. That's the Trump that has a political magic 548 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 2: that others on the right and the left aren't able 549 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 2: to match. So we'll see if he's able to pull 550 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 2: it off in this town hall. But I mean, I 551 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 2: look here, we are talking about it. I'm gonna watch 552 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 2: one hundred percent. I can't wait next week. 553 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. 554 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 2: You know, there are steps you can take to protect 555 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 2: yourself from pickpockets, like not putting your wallet in your 556 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 2: back pocket or leaving your bag unattended. 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Basically you can find 585 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 3: us anywhere. Type in Clay Travis Buck Sexton on any 586 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 3: of the social media apps Boom. 587 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 1: Can I can subscribe to the show? 588 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 2: Can I just throw it a quick I don't know 589 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 2: if we call it a mulligan, but Clay. There were 590 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 2: a handful of different people in the airport today in 591 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 2: Nashville who were like Clay. They pointed me, they go 592 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 2: Clay and Buck. I'm like, not technically my name, but yes, 593 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 2: I know. I was very nice with though I appreciate, 594 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 2: but I had to run because I had. 595 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 1: To make it to the studio in time, so I 596 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 1: felt badly. 597 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 2: Usually i'd stop and you know, chat, say hi, I'm 598 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 2: a sandwich, take a selfie whatever. But I was like 599 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:54,959 Speaker 2: sprinting through the airport. But I thought that was funny too. 600 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 2: They're like Clay and back. I'm a yeah, that. 601 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 3: We're doing We're doing well in my hometown of Nashville. 602 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 3: Year down here. I'm going to go golf out at Troubadour, 603 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 3: which I haven't played before. 604 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 1: Were you and girl? No? 605 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 3: I was just you know, the last time I golfed 606 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 3: actually was in when were we up with Trump at 607 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 3: the live golf event. 608 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 1: Remember I played in the pro am there. 609 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 3: So I played with Brooks Koepka, I played with Pat Perez, 610 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 3: Like I was out on that course. That is the 611 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 3: last time I had a golf club in my hand, 612 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 3: I think. So it's been like ten months, nine months. 613 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 3: It's going to be a massacre out there today. I'm 614 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 3: teeing off at three Central right after we finished the 615 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 3: show here in a little bit, and I was literally 616 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 3: as we were in that commercial break, just thinking about 617 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 3: how many awful shots I'm gonna hit and also wondering 618 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 3: at what point do like I have no idea how 619 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 3: the other guys like Frank Siller from Tunnel to Towers. 620 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 3: We've got a bunch of advertisers in town this week. 621 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,239 Speaker 3: I have no idea how good they are, And is 622 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 3: my awful golf game going to reflect on what they 623 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 3: think of radio show, Like could I be so bad 624 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 3: at golf that they're like, I don't know why this 625 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 3: guy does radio either, you know, if you're so bad 626 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 3: at something. 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Big company spend 665 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,479 Speaker 3: on shows like this, And that is why I think 666 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 3: the bud Light impact is so significant because my argument 667 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 3: would be, look, I don't really want to cancel any brands. 668 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,759 Speaker 3: I want all brands to respect every bit of their 669 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 3: audience and spend their money widely. 670 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 2: And I think you're establishing a principle which is a 671 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 2: company that wants to use different messaging to reach the 672 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 2: widest possible customer base in America. That's fine, that's capitalism. 673 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 2: A company that would rather lose money, refuse to advertise 674 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 2: to basically half the country and only advertise to a 675 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,360 Speaker 2: far left political segment in some cases at the expense 676 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 2: of it's bottom line, that's got to get called out. 677 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,399 Speaker 2: And that's what's happening, especially. 678 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 3: When the audience for bud Light is listening to this 679 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,760 Speaker 3: show right now, right. I know the bud Light audience. 680 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,360 Speaker 3: I talked to them for college football for the NFL 681 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,360 Speaker 3: all the time. And this is what I got me 682 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 3: fired up buck when Jack Daniels pulled my advertising because 683 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,720 Speaker 3: I said, yeah, I don't agree with sand blasting words 684 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 3: off of Vanderbilt University buildings. It's not just that they're 685 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 3: embracing left wing advertising. It's their embracing advertising that their 686 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 3: audience doesn't even listen to. And that is what the 687 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 3: left has done in this country. They have so efficiently 688 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:44,280 Speaker 3: and effectively mobilized to try to combat ideas they don't 689 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,840 Speaker 3: like that they go directly after advertisers. 690 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 1: It's time to punch back, and this is huge by 691 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:49,399 Speaker 1: the way. 692 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 2: Creating the ad base for conservative businesses is critical.