1 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 1: Another training Camp quad Box Inside Training Camp Live might 2 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: be over, but the Insiders is just beginning. Max Crosby 3 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: and the Raiders on the field in Coasta Mesa, California. Before, 4 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: as Antonio Pierce told Mike Garrifalo, They're gonna have a 5 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: walk through on the beach because why not. Egan Minnesota 6 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: all the quarterbacks. We'll see winds up coming out on 7 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: top of that competition for the Vikings, Lamar Jackson and 8 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 1: the Ravens out there at Owens Mills and here in Renton, Washington. 9 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: Geno Smith, the Seahawks and me Welcome inside with the Insiders, 10 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 1: presented by a Rocket Mortgage alongside Mike Grifalo, who again 11 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: is in Coasta Mesa. I am Tom Pellisero. We got 12 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: tons to get into during the course of this show. 13 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: Seahawks coach Mike McDonald is going to join this show 14 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: live later on today. We will talk about some of 15 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: the backup quarterbacks getting their opportunity in the preseason opener, 16 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: some of the implications of that on some of these competitions. 17 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: Josh Allen, the Bill's quarterback, asked today whether he misses 18 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs. His answer might surprise you. Just a little 19 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: tiny bit, and we will hear from Max Crosby, who 20 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: sat down with Mike just a little bit ago. But 21 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 1: we're almost the preseason time, folks. 22 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 2: That's right. 23 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:25,479 Speaker 1: It all starts out Thursday night on NFL Network continues 24 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: with twenty one live games throughout the week, including the 25 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 1: one that will evolve this guy, Number fifteen, Patrick Mahomes 26 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: and the Kansas City chiefs Andy Reid says that Patrick 27 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: Mahomes will play the first quarter on Saturday against the Jaguars. 28 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 3: Your thoughts, Patrick, My thoughts are It was funny we 29 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 3: were talking about this, I think before we came on 30 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 3: the air with Mike Robin with Gerald McCoy who was 31 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 3: here with me, and I don't know if you guys 32 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 3: got into it on the air at all, but Mike 33 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 3: rob was saying, and that's why they're the two time 34 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 3: defending champions. 35 00:01:59,360 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 36 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 3: I mean a lot of traditional folks believe that you 37 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 3: gotta play football to get better at football. 38 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 4: Mike Tomlin's another one. 39 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 3: Give us an opportunity to sharpen our skills before we 40 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 3: get to the regular season. 41 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 4: I'm gonna take advantage. 42 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 3: Of it, Andy Reid, being one of those guys Patrick 43 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 3: Mahomes and those guys are bought in too. It's not like, 44 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 3: oh man, we gotta go like the Chiefs are good 45 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 3: with going out there playing football. Sure there's a risk 46 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 3: of injury, but the upside in Andy Reid's mind is 47 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 3: to make sure that these guys are ready to go 48 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 3: for the start of the regular season, for the start 49 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 3: of another title defense. 50 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 4: And this is the way he's gonna do. 51 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: It all right time now for Built for Success presented 52 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: by Rocket Mortgage. Sometimes you know, we have to stretch 53 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: it a little bit on Built for Success. The Chiefs 54 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: have won the last two Super Bowls, not so much. 55 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 1: They're always built for success. Have they actually gotten faster 56 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 1: through the course of this offseason. Well, they added Xavier Worthy. 57 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: There's a four to two one forty Hollywood Brown. Most 58 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: recently of the Cardinals, obviously Isaiah pachuck O, Rashi Rice. 59 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 1: We know those guys can burn Soakin Caadarius Toad. We 60 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: don't even have them all on the list here, but 61 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: certainly the Chiefs, mike one of the fastest teams in 62 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: the NFL. They'll be opening up not too long from now, 63 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: less than four weeks away against the Ravens. In the 64 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: regular season opener. We will not see, however, that guy 65 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson in the preseason opener, at least, coach John 66 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 1: Harbaughs said today Lamar not going to play this weekend 67 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: against the Eagles. Wilson will not see Derrick Henry, not 68 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: just this week, but throughout the entire preseason, Harbaugh saying, 69 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry, they are going to get serve the veteran 70 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: running back. We'll see him for the first time September 71 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: fifth against the Chiefs. Meanwhile, elsewhere in the AFC North, 72 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: the Steelers will have Justin Fields out there as the 73 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: starter for the first preseason game. Makes a lot of 74 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: sense because Russell Wilson, you see him there. He's got 75 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: the baseball cap on. Still has not gotten work in 76 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: team drills. Optimism that's going to ramp up here soon. 77 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: But Justin Fields now we're in number two in Pittsburgh, 78 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: has been getting the bulk of the reps throughout the preseason. 79 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: He'll start Friday's preseason opener against the Texans. 80 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 2: Way is that Mike. 81 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 5: I think he just comes to compete every day. He's 82 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 5: got an awesome competitive spirit. We got a competitive environment, 83 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:18,039 Speaker 5: and it seems like he's enjoying it. He's doing a 84 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 5: really good job of acclimating himself to it and his 85 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 5: teammates and letting his talent show. 86 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 6: At what point do you become concerned about the lack 87 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 6: of reps from us in the first or out. 88 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 5: I'm not. 89 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 7: I always want to play. 90 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 3: I mean, I think anytime you get the strap on 91 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 3: the pads, it's. 92 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 4: You know, it's a blessing. 93 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 3: I know, I remember, you know, if it's preseason, if 94 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 3: his regular season officer, which matters a lot, and postseason more. 95 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: Importantly, Russell Wilson has listed as number one on the 96 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh depth chart. Kirk Cousins, of course, listened number one 97 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: on the Atlanta depth chart, but Raheem Morris has already 98 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: said not intending to play Kirk Cousins at least in 99 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 1: these first couple of preseason games. So that guy that's 100 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: surprised number eight overall pick, Michael Pennix Junior, will get 101 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: his opportunit tunity Friday against the Dolphins. It's always interesting 102 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: to see as we bring back Mike Garrofolo here some 103 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: of the approaches the different teams take. I think we're 104 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: actually seeing a swing back a little bit to seeing 105 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: some of the teams playing their starters more. Zach Taylor, 106 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: among others, is gonna play the Bengals starters a little 107 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: bit here in the preseason. But for Michael Penix getting 108 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: in there and have an opportunity here, Mike, this is 109 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: one of those steps in the process we're talking about 110 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: way back in April, which is if this guy looks 111 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 1: good in the preseason, definitely continues to shift the dynamic 112 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 1: a little bit as we get toward the real games. 113 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 3: Folks in Atlanta Falcons don't seem to be concerned about 114 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 3: that at all. Their primary objective is to make sure 115 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,919 Speaker 3: that Michael Pennix gets out there and get some experience. 116 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 4: They're not saying, well, if he really. 117 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 3: Goes out and lights it up, people are gonna be 118 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 3: clamoring for him to start, and there might be no 119 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 3: The only time I think that's a concern is if 120 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 3: it gets into the regular season and then Kirk. 121 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 4: Cousins starts to struggle a little bit. 122 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 3: So right now, the primary focus is we've got a 123 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 3: number eighth all picked that we expect to at some 124 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 3: point be. 125 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 4: Our quarterback of the future. 126 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 3: Got to get him out there, got to get as 127 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 3: much as we possibly can, again eliminating the risk of 128 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 3: injury as much as you possibly can, to get him 129 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 3: out there and start to get him some looks and 130 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 3: see what he can do on. 131 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:13,559 Speaker 4: A football field. 132 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 3: Of course, it's gonna be fodder for the likes of 133 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 3: us and maybe some fans who want to see perhaps 134 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 3: him get out there at some point during the regular season, 135 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 3: but again that's going to be mostly up to Kirk 136 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 3: Cousins and how he plays once we get to week 137 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 3: one and beyond. 138 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 1: Mike, you and I also both went through Latrobe, Pennsylvania. 139 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 2: We're at Steelers camp here. 140 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson again severed that calf strain during the conditioning drill. 141 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 1: He's been pushing to practice. He wants to be out there. 142 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: They haven't fully cut him loose just yet. And meanwhile, 143 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: justin fields, from everything I've heard, he's shown some of 144 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: those times where hey, you know, you'd like the ball 145 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: to come out, some of those shortcomings Chicago. But he's 146 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: also a human highlight reel and they've caught that part too. 147 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 3: And he's gonna I've been convinced for quite some time 148 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 3: he's going to put that on display in the preseason 149 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 3: because even if he doesn't do it with his arms, 150 00:06:58,560 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 3: he could do it with his legs. 151 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 4: He's a wow guy. You know. 152 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 3: Back when he was the quarterback of the Bears, I 153 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 3: remember multiple you know, coaches and staff members standing on 154 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 3: the sideline watching him, and they have seen sensational dual 155 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 3: threat quarterbacks over the years, and I multiple ones said 156 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 3: that guy's unlike anybody else the way that he's able 157 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 3: to do things on the field. So he's gonna do it, 158 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 3: There's no doubt about it. And Mike Tomlin's saying he's 159 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 3: not concerned about the lack of reps for Russell Wilson. 160 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 3: Wilson should be concerned about the lack of reps for 161 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 3: Russell Wilson because Fields has certainly opened eyes there and 162 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 3: shown his ability to take coaching. That's been a big 163 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 3: thing there in Pittsburgh from what I understand. So into 164 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 3: the preseason we go with a chance for Justin Fields. 165 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 4: What is happening there? 166 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 3: Who is yelling Tom we get into the right of 167 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 3: the practice. 168 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 2: Mike training camps still going on. 169 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 4: It's a football prectice. Yeah, we got nothing. They left 170 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 4: us hours feisty. 171 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: We've had a few, Yeah, exactly, You're sitting alone the 172 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: Raiders is literally left tout and left you sitting there 173 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: by the side of the practice field. Now, Broncos coach 174 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: Sean Payton said, we'll also see his starter in the 175 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: preseason opener. Sixteen to eighteen snaps is what Peyton said, 176 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: which probably translates to depending how well they do two 177 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: or three series on the field. Bo Nicks though not 178 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: a starter, he's not even listed as the number two. 179 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: It's Jared Sidham, then Zach Wilson, then Bo Knicks. Although, Mike, 180 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: based on my visit to the Broncos camp, based on 181 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: everything that we have seen and heard so far, it 182 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: certainly seems like this is a just an initial depth 183 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: chart here as we head toward the regular season. 184 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:34,559 Speaker 3: Sean Payton feels to me like the kind of a 185 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 3: guy who would use it. Oh, moving on, all right, 186 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:38,319 Speaker 3: but he feels like you used that depth chart to 187 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 3: kind of motivate some guys. 188 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 4: Anyway, Eagles Ravens. 189 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: Go about the Eagles, Mike, we've had Nick Sirianni undecided 190 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: if the starts will play in the preseason open a 191 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:49,439 Speaker 1: Friday against the Ravens. I believe Nick Sirianni has actually 192 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: given a dissertation on this before about anytime he says 193 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 1: that he's undecided on something, he's made up his mind. 194 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 1: He's just not going to tell you. I would imagine 195 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: he's got a pretty clear view in him his mind 196 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: of exactly what he wants to do. Here was Jalen 197 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:08,319 Speaker 1: Hurts earlier today asked about his relationship with Nick Siriann, you. 198 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 8: Have reports and you have rumors, and then you have reality. 199 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 8: And you know, we're in reality right now and got 200 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 8: different people doing different things, and we have different responsibilities 201 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,959 Speaker 8: in that natural nature. But ultimately we're just attacking the 202 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 8: day by day, you know. And his team is putting 203 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 8: the best for forward and effort and intensity, and it's 204 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 8: really been a team and being together, you know. And 205 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 8: that's been my whole entire message, this whole entire training 206 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:34,959 Speaker 8: camp and this whole offseason. 207 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: Happy birthday to Jalen Hurts twenty six years old today 208 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: his present talking about not getting along maybe with his 209 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,199 Speaker 1: head coach last season. Mike, you're around that Eagles team 210 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: a lot. This has been something that's been speculated upon. 211 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 1: It's been the undercurrent of things throughout the course of 212 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: really since things came apart and everyone was searching for 213 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: nansis of exactly what happened to your knowledge, Where do 214 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: we stand right now and how are those two meshit? 215 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 4: Those two have tried to reset the table. 216 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 3: Eagles have tried to reset the table on a lot 217 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 3: of fronts this training camp, in this offseason. And you 218 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 3: could say that, yes, there was some friction there last year, 219 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 3: but it's all about how you frame it right, because 220 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 3: I remember even after the one game that they won 221 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 3: late in the season was that game against the Giants 222 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,559 Speaker 3: on Christmas, and going into that locker room, that was 223 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 3: the losingest winning locker room I have ever experienced in 224 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 3: my life. No one was happy, no one was celebrating. 225 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 3: In fact, we put an interview requests at the end 226 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 3: of the game and they were like, Nah, this guy's 227 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 3: not gonna talk. This guy's not gonna talk, he's not 228 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 3: gonna want to do it. I was like, you just 229 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 3: won the game, yeah, but they're gonna feel like we lost. 230 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 3: And it's exactly the scene that I saw in the 231 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 3: locker room afterward. And so in talking to folks there 232 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 3: when I was there during training camp just about a 233 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 3: week and a half ago, they talked about the Super 234 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 3: Bowl hangover, and I go. 235 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 4: What Super Bowl hangover? You started? What ten and one? 236 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,559 Speaker 3: You came out of the gate flying, And they said, yeah, 237 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 3: but we underestimated how much of that hungover the team 238 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 3: for the entire sea, Like even late in the season, 239 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,959 Speaker 3: it was there. Everything was framed by the year before. 240 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 3: So there was definitely some feelings amongst and not just 241 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts, but you know, players toward the coaching staff 242 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 3: in general. So by hiring Keller Moore and by bringing 243 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 3: Vicvango on the defensive side, they've hoped they've cured the 244 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 3: issues from a coaching staff, an entire coaching staff issue 245 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 3: toward the entire locker room. So Jalen Hurts and Nick 246 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 3: Sirianni trying to reset the table. 247 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:27,559 Speaker 4: Hurts also trying. 248 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 3: To be a little lighter, not as serious all the time, 249 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 3: because I think that was a huge factor with him 250 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 3: toward the entire coaching staff last year. 251 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: It all rolls forward in the calendar to twenty twenty four. 252 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:42,199 Speaker 1: You know why, Mike, because as we keep saying, football 253 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: is back, and you can catch every single preseason game 254 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: right here on NFL Network and NFL Plus throughout the 255 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 1: course of this preseason Brandon and I you look, I'm pretty 256 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: confident we're not going to see in the preseason. The 257 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,319 Speaker 1: real question, Mike is the next time we see him 258 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:02,079 Speaker 1: in a uniform, which uniform is it. 259 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 3: Brandon Ayuk clearly has a destination in mind. We can 260 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:08,839 Speaker 3: tell by the way that this thing has played out, 261 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 3: because you know, the Browns were flirting in the Patriots. 262 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 3: We're flirting the Patriots. We're willing to go huge with 263 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 3: that contract over that thirty thirty million dollar mark that 264 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 3: really has been only reserved for Justin Jefferson to this point. 265 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 3: So they were gonna go there, and Brandon Ayuk doesn't 266 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 3: seem like he was interested in heading there. So you know, 267 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 3: clearly the Steelers, we see the Browns on there, but 268 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 3: clearly the Steelers are Ayuk's intended destination. But the Niners 269 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 3: and the Steelers have to come to win agreement on 270 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 3: a trade compensation first, and then the contract will fall 271 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 3: into place. It'll be for less than what the Patriots 272 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 3: we're gonna offer. I think no matter where he winds up, 273 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 3: his next deal is going to be for less than 274 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 3: what the Patriots are offering. So it was about more 275 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 3: than just the money for Brandon Ayuk, and when this 276 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:54,719 Speaker 3: is all said and done, I'd love to hear We'll 277 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 3: see how truthful he wants to get, but I'd love 278 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 3: to hear Brandon Ayuk's take on the whole situation, including 279 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 3: San Francisco, where at some point he would have been open, 280 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 3: at some point relatively recently, would have been open to 281 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 3: a long term extensions. 282 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 4: Has not seen that that's the case right now. 283 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: Well, And if Brandon a yukuz indeed gonna get his 284 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: way and be a Pittsburgh Steeler, at some point the 285 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: forty nine ers have to accept the offer in Miners Sandy, 286 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 1: as there have been. 287 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,079 Speaker 2: Negotiations through the course of. 288 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: The week here, that's really the last step in the 289 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: entire process. When will that happen? Will it happen? Stay 290 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 1: tuned right here on the Insiders. Did I mention that 291 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: football is back? 292 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 2: That's right. 293 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 1: Hold on one second, Mike, We're gonna get there. How 294 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: about first look at all these preseason games, every one 295 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: of these games available on NFL Network, also streaming on 296 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 1: NFL Plus twenty one Live games. It's time for football. 297 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: All starts tomorrow night on NFL Network. Blackout restrictions apply. 298 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: Also streaming on NFL Plus. You're just gonna need a subscription. 299 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: Max Crosby out there in Costa Mesa before everybody bailed 300 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: on Mike Garofolo, what does he have to say about 301 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: this Raiders team and their expectations in a really tough division. 302 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: We'll ask him, Oh, Mike will Right after this on 303 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: the Insiders presented by Rocket Mortgage, the NFL came down 304 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: hard on the Giants and the Lions, finding them two 305 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars as an organization eats for the series 306 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: of fights that broke out during the joint practices over 307 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: the past couple of days. Welcome back to the Insiders 308 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: presented by Rocket Mortgage. It's Tom Pellisero, it is Mike Garrifolo. Mike, 309 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: we know that there has been in the past some 310 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: levels of discipline in terms of maybe the league leaning 311 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: on the teams that, hey, somebody takes off their helmet 312 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: and swings it at a guy. You might need to 313 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 1: find him on this. There's rules under the Collected Bargaining 314 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: Agreement who can and can't be fined for things. The 315 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: NFL making this statement and doing so publicly not that 316 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: long after this, that's a memo saying stop with the 317 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: joint practice fights. This is a seems to me to 318 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: be a very specific indication here the leagues in US 319 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: and saying, if you can't control these joint practices, we 320 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 1: may not be able to have these joint practices anymore. 321 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 3: That's a great point, and that's what they're trying to 322 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 3: make clear. I mean, the fact that this was confirmed 323 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 3: and put out publicly lets you know that the NFL 324 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 3: is letting the fans know, letting the players know, letting 325 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 3: the teams know that they don't want to tolerate this 326 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 3: kind of behavior. It's dangerous, someone could get hurt. And 327 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 3: it's about practicing together to get the best possible football 328 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 3: production that you can get. I mean, I've talked to 329 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 3: a couple of teams about joint practices that are doing 330 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 3: it for the first time and they say, well, we 331 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 3: don't quite know what to expect, and I say, well, 332 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 3: sometimes it depends on what the coaches are are setting 333 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 3: a tone, like Mike Tomlin and Sean McDermott the Bills 334 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 3: and the Steelers are having one coming up, and it's like, 335 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 3: you guarantee there won't be a fight at that one 336 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 3: right there, and so this one broke out the other day. 337 00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 3: It was multiple fights over multiple days. 338 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 4: The NFL is. 339 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 3: Saying, well, the organizations are liable for this because it 340 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 3: keeps breaking out. You've got to stop it. You got 341 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 3: to nip it in the bud. And that did not 342 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 3: happen here to the NFL's liking. So look for more 343 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 3: of this going forward if you've got multiple fights breaking 344 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 3: out and coaches and whoever else not doing enough to 345 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 3: maybe keep this stuff in line. 346 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: Speaking of discipline, the NC DOUBLEA today handed down discipline 347 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: to former Michigan coach Jim Harbaugh, now the head coach 348 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: of the Los Angeles Chargers, issuing penalties that included what's 349 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: knows a four year show caused penalty, including a one 350 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: year suspension that Harbaugh, if he ever did go back 351 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: to college football, would have to serve if it came 352 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: in the next four years. This is related to violations 353 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: and what the NC DOUBLEA deemed to be unethical conduct 354 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: during the COVID nineteen recruiting dead period. It involved inducements, 355 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: it involved a lot of different stuff. It's a lengthy 356 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: type of a statement here. This again not involved the 357 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 1: alleged sign stealing that occurred last season, allegedly involving the 358 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: University of Michigan and one of their staffers, Connor. Stallion's 359 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh, speaking to reporters yesterday, issued what can only 360 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 1: be defined as a blanket denial. 361 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:21,199 Speaker 6: Never lie, never cheat, never steal. I was raised with 362 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 6: that lesson. I have raised my family on that lesson. 363 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 6: I have preached that lesson to the teams that I've coached. 364 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:37,199 Speaker 6: No one's perfect. If you stumble, you apologize, and you 365 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 6: make it right. Today I do not apologize. I did 366 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 6: not participate, was not aware nor complicit in those set allegations. 367 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 6: So for me, it's back to work and attacking with 368 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 6: an enthusiasm unknown to mankind. 369 00:17:57,960 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 4: We know we're talking of Bobster. 370 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 6: Crosby is so cos mother Harold brought down. 371 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 4: Waxing down? 372 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 3: Why the condor? 373 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 7: Yes, one of them games? 374 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 8: Look Cosby? 375 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 3: Why we got a game boy, Max Crosbie. 376 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 4: You know what makes Max Crosby great? 377 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 3: Well, a lot of things make Max Crosby great, but 378 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 3: it's the ability or the desire to talk to guys 379 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:33,360 Speaker 3: like Gerald McCoy, our colleague. 380 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 4: At NFL Network, and pick up some pointers. 381 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 3: Christian Wilkins as well, talking to McCoy and saying, what 382 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 3: need a little bit. 383 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 4: More tutorials here on what to do. 384 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 3: I mean, these are accomplished guys, and yet they're still 385 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 3: picking the brain of one of the great defensive tackles 386 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 3: in recent NFL history. So that was happening shortly after 387 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 3: Crosbie set with us. To have a conversation with Gerald 388 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 3: and myself, Max Crosby, we were told it was a 389 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 3: light practice today, fully taped up sleeve, sweating out of breath. 390 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 3: There's no such thing as I like practice for you, 391 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 3: isn't there? 392 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 9: No? 393 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 7: No, you know, it's every day. Me and Jeral talked 394 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 7: about it since day one. You know. He told me 395 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 7: something that stuck with me forever. He said, no matter 396 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 7: what system you're in, no matter where you're at, the 397 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 7: great ones they're great regardless. So that's something I lived 398 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 7: by and every single day I'm coming out here with 399 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 7: a purpose and be the best in the world. So 400 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 7: trying to push everybody you know, to get to that level. 401 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 7: And it's spend a great training camp so far. 402 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 10: And when I was talked when I first started doing 403 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 10: this media thing is you never correct your colleagues on air. 404 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 7: But Mike, I gotta do it. 405 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 10: We're not sitting here with Max Krisby. We're sitting here 406 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 10: with the Max Krusby, the guy especially to me. So Max, 407 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 10: every time a new accolade comes out for you, you 408 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 10: always say do. 409 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 5: More, more, more more. 410 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 10: What does that mean to you? And what does that 411 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 10: mean when people see you? What is driving you to 412 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 10: always more? You were ranked the top ten player voted 413 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 10: on Bottle Players, a Defensive Player of the Year finalist. 414 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 5: What does more mean for Max Grisby? 415 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 7: For me, it just means that I know I'm not 416 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:08,640 Speaker 7: at my best yet, and that's what pushed me every 417 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:11,640 Speaker 7: single day. My goal is not to you know, have 418 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 7: a short little run and be a really good player 419 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 7: for a little, you know, amount of time. I want 420 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 7: to be iconic in this game. I want to be 421 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 7: somebody that they look back and say, that's how the 422 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 7: position was played. So I have a ton of work 423 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 7: to do, and like you said, like I've made a 424 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 7: couple of second team All Pros and made a couple 425 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 7: of things like that, but that's that's my first team. 426 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:29,719 Speaker 7: That's not Defensive Player of the Year. I haven't done 427 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 7: that yet, and I haven't won much, you know what 428 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 7: I mean? I've been to the playoffs one year and 429 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 7: it was with you. So for me, I want to win. 430 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 7: That's that's number one most important and number two to 431 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 7: get my team the best chance to win. I gotta 432 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 7: I gotta be the best version of myself. And I 433 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 7: feel like there's nobody doing what I'm doing and I'm 434 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 7: only getting better. So that's why I'm always saying more 435 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 7: is required, and I put it on everything I do. 436 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 7: And you know, for me, I like this year, I 437 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 7: put pound for pound, like regardless of the position, want 438 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 7: to be the best in the world. So that's that's 439 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 7: what pushes me. 440 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 3: After last season, a lot of folks saw what Antonio 441 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 3: Appears did his interim coach and maybe say, well, that 442 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 3: was a cute little story. 443 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:04,360 Speaker 4: Made them fun down the stretch here. 444 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, but you the Max Crosby, Yeah, there we go. Uh, 445 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 3: we're very vocal about we've got to this is the guy. Yea, 446 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 3: he should get the permanent job. He did get the 447 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 3: permanent job. We are now halfway through training camp. You 448 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 3: had the whole spring. Do you feel even more certain 449 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 3: that this was the right guy for the job for 450 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 3: the Raiders right now? 451 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 7: You know, we haven't done anything yet. To be completely honest, 452 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 7: we haven't won yet, and that's that's all that matters. 453 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 7: That's what my focus is, That's what his focus is. 454 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 7: That's what this whole team is is focus on. You know, 455 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 7: there's a lot of outside noise, a lot of people saying, 456 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,439 Speaker 7: you know, well, Max shouldn't have said this, he's a 457 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 7: player whatever. You know, people have their own opinions. AP 458 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 7: is very vocal about what we're trying to do, so 459 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 7: people can say whatever they want until we do it, 460 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 7: that's all that matters. The Chiefs have won the division 461 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,439 Speaker 7: multiple times in a row, so we know what. You know, 462 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 7: everybody knows that. You know, we we got to get 463 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,160 Speaker 7: past them and all the other teams in the division 464 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 7: and take care of the games where you know we're 465 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 7: supposed to do so. At the end of the day, 466 00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 7: it's literally one game at a time, one practice at 467 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 7: a time, and and just focus on that one percent 468 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 7: improvement across the board. 469 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 3: Thank you to the Max Crosby for joining the Insiders. 470 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 3: Coming up on the Insiders, the Josh Allen asked about 471 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:16,120 Speaker 3: does he miss Stefan Diggs. 472 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 4: Stay tuned for his answer. 473 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 3: Welcome Back to the Insiders, presented by a rocket mortgage 474 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 3: to upstate New York. We go there, we see the 475 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:34,719 Speaker 3: Buffalo Bills. Josh Allen always some great expectations on his shoulders. 476 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 4: And more so this year. No Stefan Diggs. 477 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 3: Gonna have to find a rhythm with some of the 478 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 3: veterans that they've added to that receiver corps. Alan asked 479 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,679 Speaker 3: about no digs and what it means for that receiving 480 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 3: cor Here's what he had to say. 481 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 11: Steph's a great player and what he brought to this 482 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 11: team was was special. So miss is is? I don't 483 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 11: know if i'd say miss You know, he was a 484 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 11: guy that was reliable you could and you can look to. 485 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 11: He's gonna have the juice each and every day. I'm 486 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 11: sure he's bringing over there in Houston. So definitely, yeah, 487 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 11: you can't say that you don't miss that. But I 488 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 11: am very happy with what we got going on here 489 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 11: and how hard the guys have been working. And I mean, 490 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,400 Speaker 11: I'm very comfortable with the guys that we've brought in. 491 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:16,640 Speaker 11: And it's no secret. You know, stuff was an all 492 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 11: pro here and he's got the stats to back it up. 493 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 11: You know, each year he had one hundred plus catches 494 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 11: and a thousand plus yards and that's a heavy workload 495 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,439 Speaker 11: for someone to come and fill those shoes. And I 496 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 11: understand that the guys in that room understand that. But 497 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 11: at the same time, the approach that these guys have 498 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 11: had of working hard and putting their head down, and 499 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 11: you know, when they get the ball, they get the ball, 500 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,919 Speaker 11: and when they don't, they're doing everything they can to 501 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 11: help somebody else get the ball and break them free. 502 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 11: So you know, well, I guess we'll find out. 503 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 4: That brings back one of our favorite segments. After I ripped. 504 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 3: Through this full screen, Josh Allen Harry is by his 505 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 3: targeted receiver. You could see the production when he throws 506 00:23:56,280 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 3: to Diggs as opposed to those other current Buffalo team. Obviously, 507 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 3: the numbers in the right gonna go up this year 508 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 3: with no digs, which leads us back to one of 509 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 3: our favorite segments. It's called inside the Drama. Thought we 510 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 3: had a full screen for that one, dun dund Inside 511 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 3: the Drama. As you can see, I am hosting the 512 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:17,919 Speaker 3: show right now. We've got some technical difficulties out there 513 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 3: in Seattle. Tom Pellisero does not have a monitor, so 514 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 3: he can't see what is happening here, So I will 515 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,199 Speaker 3: be the one driving the bus here for a little bit. 516 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:27,120 Speaker 4: He'll see that one later. 517 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,360 Speaker 3: Tom, Let's go inside the drama here, or maybe there 518 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,919 Speaker 3: is no drama. Your thoughts on what Josh Allen had 519 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 3: to say about Stefan Diggs no longer being a member 520 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 3: of the Buffalo Bills. 521 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 1: Well, what's Josh Allen really supposed to say? I think 522 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 1: is the bottom line here. He's got to put his 523 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,639 Speaker 1: faith behind these guys because he's playing now with Keon 524 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: Coleman and Mack Hollins and different receivers than he's had 525 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 1: in the past. I asked our research department and Jack 526 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 1: Andreid to look up how many times a receivers had 527 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,880 Speaker 1: four consecutive one hundred catch seasons and then left the team, 528 00:24:57,920 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: and how the quarterback did what I said in our 529 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 1: converage call, It can't have happened very often. 530 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 2: According to Jack, it is never happened. 531 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: There's never been a time where a wide receiver had 532 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 1: four straight or more one hundred catch seasons and not. 533 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 2: Been back the following year. 534 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,640 Speaker 1: No, obviously, guys didn't have one hundred plus catches until 535 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 1: a couple of decades ago. The passing game has really 536 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: exploded here. But this is an unprecedented type of a 537 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 1: production drain when you're talking about a single, high volume player. 538 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: Time will tell how this entire thing plays out, but 539 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 1: certainly they're confident in some of the young guys they have, 540 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: even if they're not hitting their stride in Week one. 541 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 1: We saw in places like Green Bay last year when 542 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 1: you're relying on young players, they can get better. 543 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,719 Speaker 3: Keon Cole a big ken't Cole mescuse be a big 544 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 3: part of this drafting him, but also all those veterans 545 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 3: that they brought in, Curtis, Samuel mccollins, kJ Hamler. 546 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 4: They got a bunch of guys. Somebody's gonna have a 547 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 4: career year. 548 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 3: Somebody's gonna have to have a career year to help 549 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 3: fill the void by Stefan Diggs no longer being in 550 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 3: Buffalo and Josh Allen figuring out and especially as we 551 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,679 Speaker 3: get into live games, who he is most comfortable with 552 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 3: and who he is going to feed elsewhere. We've got 553 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 3: some news around the NFL today. Here is what's new 554 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 3: in the NFL today. Mike Williams, the Jets wide receiver, 555 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 3: acquired in free agency one year fifteen million dollar deal. Yeah, 556 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 3: activated off the pup list. Remember he tore his ACL 557 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 3: in Week three last year. There was a great confidence 558 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 3: he'd be ready for week one. This is the greatest 559 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 3: sign that the Jets believe that's going to be the case. 560 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:28,919 Speaker 3: Let's see how much he does when the Jets returned 561 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 3: to practice, didn't have a full practice today. Ron Dell Moore, 562 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 3: this one stinks here cart it off. It looked like 563 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 3: an air cast from those on the scene there today 564 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,360 Speaker 3: taking to the hospital after suffering a right leg injury. 565 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 4: At practice today. 566 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 3: We don't have the full extent of it, but it's 567 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 3: looking like that one is going to be a bad one. 568 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 3: So tough tough one there for the former cardinal now 569 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:51,479 Speaker 3: in Atlanta. Elsewhere on the wide receiver injury front, this 570 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 3: one stinks as well. The third round pick from a 571 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 3: year ago who was so productive, Josh Downs, out four 572 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 3: to six. 573 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 4: Weeks with an ankle sprain. 574 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,199 Speaker 3: This according to our ian rapaport, So that one a 575 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 3: tough one for Indianapolis there. But the good news is 576 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 3: doesn't seem like if he does miss some regular season action, 577 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 3: it will not be much. We'll see how Downs can 578 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 3: come back from that one. Josh Jacobs. You see that 579 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 3: big deal he signed back in the spring. With Aaron 580 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 3: Jones gone. He is now the bellcal for the Packers, 581 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 3: four years, forty eight million dollar deal. 582 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 4: Matt Lafleur has. 583 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,679 Speaker 3: Been very effusive in his praise of Jacobs and what 584 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 3: he thinks that he could be to this offense. Here 585 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,120 Speaker 3: is Lafleur on Jacobs. 586 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 12: He's an established veteran that's performed at a high level, 587 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 12: and I just get so excited that he can do 588 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 12: it all. He can be a weapon in the passing game, 589 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 12: not only as a pass blocker, pass protector, but also 590 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,120 Speaker 12: out of the backfield catching the ball. He's got great 591 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:53,120 Speaker 12: hands and he hit some speed yesterday that was exciting 592 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,199 Speaker 12: to see. He's just a tough, rugged runner, and I 593 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,640 Speaker 12: don't think we'll truly get to appreciate his value until 594 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:03,360 Speaker 12: we get to live tackling situations, because I think that's 595 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 12: really what he's known for, is he's a punishing runner. 596 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,199 Speaker 3: Jeffrey Chadia now joins US. Jeffrey had a chance to 597 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,439 Speaker 3: visit all four teams in the NFC North, and you 598 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 3: had a chance to write about it on NFL dot com. 599 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,680 Speaker 3: First read. Let's start with the Packers. Your takeaway from 600 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 3: Packer from Packers. 601 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 9: Camp, the defense will be a lot better Mike, in 602 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 9: large part because of new safety Zabrier McKinney. He was 603 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 9: the guy they targeted a free agency because Jeff Hafley, 604 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 9: the new coordinator coming in, is running a new four 605 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 9: to three system, wants to play fast and wants a 606 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 9: safety who can be versatile, and that's exactly what McKenney. 607 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:38,479 Speaker 2: Brings to it. 608 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 9: He can play in the slot, he can play in 609 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 9: the box, he can play deep, and he's talked about 610 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 9: how much he's wanted. 611 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 2: To be a leader in this room. Only twenty four 612 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 2: years old. 613 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,959 Speaker 9: But Jay r Alexander the corner Star corner for the Packers, 614 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 9: that he's already shown great leadership, the way he communicates, 615 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 9: the way he's mentored some of the other safeties. So 616 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 9: look for Zabrier McKinney, that former Giant to come over 617 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 9: to Green make a huge impact this year. 618 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 4: The Lions. 619 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 3: Meanwhile, it's been like it's been like this, right, it's 620 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 3: been like this. It's like there's only a little bit 621 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 3: more to go. What is the takeaway that you had 622 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 3: from Lions camp that can help put them over the 623 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 3: town well, well. 624 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 4: Two takeaways. 625 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 9: Actually, one is in the secondary where they drafted Terry 626 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 9: and Arnold and Ennis Regstraw and traded for Carlton Davis 627 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 9: at corner. Really upgraded what was a huge weakness for 628 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 9: this team last year, and you saw it late in 629 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 9: the season in the postseason, they really couldn't defend the pass. 630 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 9: Now they're really excited about what they have back there. 631 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 9: And I talked to the defensive coordinator, Aaron Glenn about it, 632 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 9: and he said he expects those young guys to be 633 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 9: badasses to go out there and cover and tackle. But 634 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 9: somebody else they expect to be a badass too is 635 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 9: Jamison Williams, thirty year receiver who was a first round 636 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 9: pick a couple of years ago, but they've been waiting 637 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 9: to explode. He feels like his maturation has really shown 638 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 9: up this year in the offseason, the way he's worked out, 639 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 9: the way he's improved as a route runner, the way 640 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 9: he's put on weight, and they feel like if he 641 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 9: can do what they expect and being weapon alongside A'man 642 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 9: Ross Saint Brown and stay on the port in that offense, 643 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 9: they can really get to that next level that you 644 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 9: were in talking about love. 645 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 3: It, and then we'll round it out with the Bears 646 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 3: are a team from hard knocks. Caleb Williams is there, 647 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 3: but that's not one of your biggest takeaways regarding what 648 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 3: you saw at Bears camp. 649 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 9: Yeah, so much talk about Caleb Williams, but really it's 650 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 9: the supporting cast. 651 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 4: It's going to determine his. 652 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 9: Success in his first year. And DeAndre Swift, their big 653 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 9: free agent acquisition at running back, is a big part 654 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 9: of that. You know, being an East Coast guy, you 655 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 9: saw what he went to the Philadelphia Eagles last year. 656 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 2: He stayed healthy. 657 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 9: You saw the running skills in the open field, the 658 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 9: receiving skills. That's a big part of what Shane Walder 659 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 9: and their new coordinator wants to do. He came over 660 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 9: from Seattle where he was able to have guys like 661 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 9: DK Metcalf and Tyler Lockett, work with Kenneth Walker the 662 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 9: third and Zach Charbonnay. I really think a big underrated 663 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,479 Speaker 9: part of this team's success is going to be how 664 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 9: well they run the football because Shane Waldron is not 665 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 9: going to. 666 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 2: Back up on that now. 667 00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 4: DeAndre Swift signed like greed. 668 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 3: The terms I should say about like five minutes into 669 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 3: the windows. So the Bears made him a priority, which 670 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 3: means they are certainly gonna make him a priority in 671 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 3: their offense. NFL dot com backslash Badass No wait, hold 672 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 3: on NFL dot com back slash first read. 673 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 4: I like that. That's where you find Jeffrey Tod. 674 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 3: I like the madass one too. They see if we 675 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 3: can get that. They call that a vanity U r L. 676 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 3: We can see if we can get that for you, 677 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 3: Jeffrey Toda. Thank you very much, man. We appreciate you 678 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 3: joining us here on The Insiders. We're gonna head back 679 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 3: to rent in Washington and check in on No Seahawks 680 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 3: and one of the more picturesque training camp stops. 681 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 4: That you can ever. I'm those flowers in the background. 682 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 3: That's beautiful even while guys are throwing throwing haymakers. 683 00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Insiders, presented by Rocket More Mortgage. 684 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 1: What a great day out here Renton, Washington's we wrapped 685 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 1: up inside training camp live with the Seattle Seahawks, and 686 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 1: we're here now for the Insiders, joined by. 687 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 2: The head coach of the Sale Seahawks, Mike mctland. 688 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 4: Thanks Tom good to see. 689 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 8: It, brother. 690 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: So what what are you excited about out here. You're 691 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks in, you haven't gotten to the 692 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 1: games yet. I know you kind of temper your expectations 693 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 1: for right and the young guys. 694 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 2: But what do you like that you're seeing. 695 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, we've been getting after it. 696 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 13: It's uh, you know, I'm proud of how we responded today. 697 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 13: We came out, we were ready to practice. I don't 698 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 13: know what the numbers are, but you know, we've we've 699 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 13: been out here, I don't know, fourteen last sixteen days. 700 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 13: I think we're tired of going against one another, you know, 701 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,719 Speaker 13: but the guys are, uh, guys are spirited. We had 702 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 13: a we had a great practice and we're you know, 703 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 13: we're excited for Saturday. 704 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 1: It was it was feisty out here. There were a 705 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: few we were we had our face forward the camera. 706 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 1: We kept going like what's going on now? DK played 707 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 1: a little wlackable at one point. There where's the line 708 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 1: for you in terms of you want the intensity, you 709 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 1: want the competition, You probably don't want people using their 710 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 1: helmet as well. 711 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 13: Yeah, we're we're right on the line right now, and 712 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 13: I think I think the guys realize that, like, hey, 713 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 13: you know, let's take care of one another. Definitely want 714 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 13: people fighting out here and stuff, and especially against our 715 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 13: own teammates. And then DK gave a great message jannt 716 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 13: of practice, just kind of putting us everything in perspective. 717 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 13: The guys finished it out the right way. So proud 718 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 13: of our guys. 719 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 1: So what do you say in that moment you called 720 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: the team up after I think it was the second 721 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 1: of the little little scrums that you had there. 722 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 2: What's the message? 723 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 13: Yeah, it was positive, it was positive, and the guys 724 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 13: are in a good spot. But just remind him why 725 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 13: we're out here, what we're trying to get accomplished, and 726 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 13: take a deep breath and let's finish the practice the 727 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 13: right way. 728 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 4: And then we did. 729 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 1: You've been coaching a long time relatively speaking, here, this 730 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 1: is your first time being in that that head shair. 731 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 1: There's all kinds of things like this, right, controlling the 732 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 1: messaging your team and the culture everything else. 733 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 2: What are you learning about yourself. 734 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 4: In this process? 735 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 13: It's all these examples of an opportunities to reinforce what 736 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 13: you said you wanted to be about. So those are 737 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 13: the things you're seeking and I think the guys they 738 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 13: appreciate when you like point stuff out of Hey, we 739 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 13: said we're going to be like this, you know, are 740 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 13: we committed to that or not? And I think when 741 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 13: they realized, hey, you know, these are the things we 742 00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 13: said we wanted to be about. This is an opportunity 743 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 13: to actually, you know, put our money more our mouth is, 744 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 13: so to speak. 745 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 4: And I think they've responded to that. 746 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 1: Your three games out from the preseason opener. The preseason 747 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,319 Speaker 1: for coaches always, but especially with the new staff, is 748 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,360 Speaker 1: the communication and you're going to have the red challenge 749 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:14,359 Speaker 1: flag for the first time. 750 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,320 Speaker 2: Do you go through like rehearsals on things? 751 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 1: Are there pretend conversations, pretend challenges like what have you. 752 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 2: Done to yourself? A lot? 753 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,279 Speaker 13: I mean, Brian Airs has done a great job of 754 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,800 Speaker 13: organizing all of our situations and we've met throughout the summer, 755 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 13: all the offseason what our overall philosophy is going to 756 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 13: be and then implementing it to the players, trying to 757 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,840 Speaker 13: understand how we want to manage the game. Managing the 758 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 13: actual headset was cool, you know in the stadium on Saturday, 759 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 13: and we got great people behind that process. But just 760 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 13: trying to simulate as many you know, situations as we 761 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 13: possibly can in practice, and again it'll be the first 762 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:49,880 Speaker 13: time we do it on Saturday. But you know, I 763 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 13: mean we've played NFL football games before, and we'll make 764 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,800 Speaker 13: decisions and we'll kind of debrief after and we'll move forward. 765 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 1: One of the things I'm always most curious about, do 766 00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,800 Speaker 1: you know where you're going to keep the challenge? 767 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:01,719 Speaker 13: As you were talking about it, I actually thought I 768 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 13: was like, you know what, I haven't thought about. 769 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:04,919 Speaker 2: Which were going out? We're going to solve him where 770 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 2: do you think? Well, we didn't go so socks tough. 771 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:09,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not accessible pocket. 772 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,799 Speaker 13: I think the back left pocket is available right now, 773 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 13: that might be the spot. 774 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,840 Speaker 2: All right, so there we go, back left pocket. 775 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 13: Yeah, the situation, the situation cards in this pocket right 776 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 13: with my left hand. Call shoots in the right hand, 777 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:23,879 Speaker 13: so I think that back left pocket. 778 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 1: Is so make sure that's occupied by the flag. Don't 779 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 1: do one of these's like you forgot. 780 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like, well a foam mall at keys red flag. 781 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 1: Your quarterback Gino Smith obviously miss time last week. Get 782 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,319 Speaker 1: a little bit rolled up right in practice. She gave 783 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,279 Speaker 1: him all the scans he's been back. How does he 784 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 1: look at how is he embracing the opportunity to really 785 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:41,840 Speaker 1: be a leader for a team in transition. 786 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 13: Now he looks sharp right now, he looks really good. 787 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 13: It'd be fun to see him go against a couple 788 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 13: other schemes over the next few weeks. I think he's 789 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:50,880 Speaker 13: in a great spot, that the guys are in a 790 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,959 Speaker 13: great spot. We're operating the offense really well. There's things 791 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 13: we're chasing, but he's right there, and I think he's 792 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,240 Speaker 13: I think he's eager to get this thing going against 793 00:35:59,239 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 13: another team. 794 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,720 Speaker 2: How much running you going to give these guys your starters? 795 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:03,879 Speaker 13: Oh well, Gino, we're still figuring that out right now 796 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 13: for Saturday, based on how he feels and who else 797 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 13: is going to start. But we'd like to get the 798 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 13: starters out there and you know, get ready to go, 799 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 13: especially just being new schemes, you know, new systems, operation, 800 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 13: things like that. So I think we'll see a lot 801 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,320 Speaker 13: of our guys on you know, the beginning part of 802 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 13: the game on Saturday, and then you know, we'll evaluate 803 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 13: it from there. 804 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:21,880 Speaker 1: This is certainly going to be a team that's going 805 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 1: to want to run the football. You got a lot 806 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:24,839 Speaker 1: of weapons in the passing game, But how's that group 807 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,719 Speaker 1: sorting itself out in the backfield right now. 808 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 4: Well, I'm i'm you know, I'm I'm on record. 809 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,320 Speaker 13: I'm excited about you know, the top two guys, and 810 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 13: then we've got a great battle for the third spot. 811 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,319 Speaker 13: But uh, you know, Kenneth Walkers had a great offseason 812 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 13: and then doubled down on a great training camp. Zach 813 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 13: Sharbonay is a is just a He's a stud man. 814 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 13: He's just every day same guy, toughest nails, plays extremely hard, 815 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 13: plays plays on special teams. 816 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 4: So I'm excited to see them go do their thing. 817 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,319 Speaker 1: Mike Robinson was over here, the former Seahawks fullback, of course, 818 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,719 Speaker 1: on NFL Network earlier today, he couldn't stop talking about 819 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,719 Speaker 1: two guys, Jackson Smith and Jigba and then Devin Witherspoon 820 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 1: on defense. Let's focus on the scooening for a second year. 821 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 1: We know the guy's a dog, We've seen what he 822 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 1: can do. How much better can that guy still get? 823 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 13: Well, it's been the message, you know, to him since, 824 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 13: uh since we were hired in February. It's just, hey, 825 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 13: we have so much respect for you as a person, 826 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 13: as a player, what you did last year. But you know, 827 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:16,279 Speaker 13: the sky's the limit for you, bro, and we gotta 828 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:17,360 Speaker 13: we got to get it out of you. So we 829 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,879 Speaker 13: got to work together and hold you to extremely high 830 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 13: standard because you've earned that standard. And I think, I 831 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:24,680 Speaker 13: think you see him attacking those things. He does not 832 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,239 Speaker 13: back away from a challenge. I can tell you that much. 833 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 13: And uh, you know, there's parts of his game that 834 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,440 Speaker 13: we want to improve, and we'll leave that between us 835 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:35,440 Speaker 13: right now. But I think, uh, I just he's talk 836 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 13: about one of the guys that brings it every day, 837 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 13: the spirit, the competitiveness, chasing, you know, you know, at 838 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 13: the edge of his game. I mean, he epitomizes what 839 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 13: we're looking for on defense. 840 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:48,360 Speaker 1: So September, September eighth against the Broncos, that's the true debut. 841 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,200 Speaker 1: I know there's a lot of process since one day 842 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,239 Speaker 1: at a time, all that good stuff. How much in 843 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,279 Speaker 1: your head when you're sleeping, when you're thinking, are you 844 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,680 Speaker 1: just thinking ahead to that first game and really getting 845 00:37:58,719 --> 00:37:59,760 Speaker 1: to put your stamp. 846 00:37:59,600 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 4: On this thing. 847 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,400 Speaker 13: This might be tough to believe, but I'm very little, 848 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 13: very little right now. It's it's all about who we 849 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,160 Speaker 13: can become as a team. We'll worry about that when 850 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:10,920 Speaker 13: it comes here. I mean We've got plenty of time 851 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:12,319 Speaker 13: between now and then, but like we have to make 852 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,879 Speaker 13: sure we take advantage of this time mold the team 853 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:15,520 Speaker 13: fortunate the. 854 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,319 Speaker 4: Way we want to be. And that's that's honestly what 855 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 4: I'm most concerned about. 856 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 2: You're so level in these interviews. 857 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 1: Every time I see you on camera time we've talked 858 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,680 Speaker 1: off camera before. I saw Leslie Frisher's knowing you a 859 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 1: long time out here earlier, and he was like, I 860 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:27,800 Speaker 1: just got a little bit of edge to him, and 861 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 1: we got to see that come out a little bit. 862 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 2: As we get toward these real games, it'll be there. 863 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,760 Speaker 13: It's it's there, you know, Like for me to smile 864 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 13: this much is uncommon. You know, this is my excited face. 865 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:40,839 Speaker 13: I appreciate you putting on the show for TV. That's good, 866 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 13: but uh less does have me beat. 867 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 4: On the calm department. But I'll it's it. 868 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 13: There's things that we and we've told the guys what 869 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,279 Speaker 13: matters to us is like our intent and those situations 870 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 13: we're doing things that we said that we're going to do. 871 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 13: All right, we can handle mistakes, but when our mind's 872 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,880 Speaker 13: on the right spot and when we're straying away from 873 00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:59,359 Speaker 13: kind of the vision of the team we want to become, 874 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,239 Speaker 13: and you know that that fires me up a little bit. 875 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,160 Speaker 1: Awesome, Mike, thank you very much for the time. Best 876 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,200 Speaker 1: of luck this season. Really appreciate you sitting down with us. 877 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,879 Speaker 1: Great thanks Ton always great training camp flavor out here 878 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,040 Speaker 1: in rent and Washington and across the NFL. More that 879 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:14,720 Speaker 1: on The Insiders presented by Rocket Mortgage. 880 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 2: Right after this, Welcome. 881 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,399 Speaker 3: Back to the Insiders presented by Rocket Mortgage. Think you're 882 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,319 Speaker 3: too good for the preseason? That guy right there and 883 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,239 Speaker 3: the start nice behind the back pass. He's doing things 884 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 3: in practice he always does. Let's see if he doesn't 885 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,560 Speaker 3: during the preseason, because he's gonna play, and here are 886 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 3: his thoughts on it. 887 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,840 Speaker 14: I'm extremely excited. I mean, obviously for me to go 888 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 14: out there and play with these guys in showcase well 889 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,120 Speaker 14: where we have the ability to do, but to learn 890 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:50,680 Speaker 14: from our mistakes too. I mean, you're gonna go out 891 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:52,719 Speaker 14: there and play for real and play against someone else. 892 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:54,840 Speaker 14: I'm tired of going to gets bags and every defense 893 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 14: known to man, and so I think just going out there, 894 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 14: letting the guys play, make decisions under fire and having 895 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 14: to make those right decision and learn from the mistakes. 896 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 3: After football is back in The NFL Network has every 897 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,040 Speaker 3: NFL preseason game, including twenty one live. 898 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 4: It's time for football. 899 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:15,880 Speaker 3: The NFL Preseason August eighth to twenty fifth starts August eighth, 900 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:22,120 Speaker 3: starts tonight, continues, starts tomorrow, continues tomorrow on NFL Network. 901 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,360 Speaker 3: I'll get this right. Blackout restrictions apply. This copy is 902 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,840 Speaker 3: a mess. Also streaming on NFL Plus. Subscription required for 903 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,480 Speaker 3: NFL Plus. I was hosting because Tom, who has been 904 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,160 Speaker 3: all over the place by the way show the Matt 905 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,040 Speaker 3: doesn't have his monitor out there. The monitor was broken, 906 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,879 Speaker 3: one of just a few technical difficulties he's had as 907 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,480 Speaker 3: he's crossed the country here. So we're doing the best 908 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 3: that we possibly can while I'm hosting. But you know what, 909 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:47,480 Speaker 3: tom My conscience has gotten the best of me. Are 910 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:48,520 Speaker 3: you done traveling the country? 911 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,320 Speaker 4: There we go. My conscience has gotten the best of me. 912 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 3: When you turn the show over to me, because you 913 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 3: didn't have a monitor, I played a little joke on you. 914 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,279 Speaker 3: You didn't see Ken Field, our producer out there. Ken 915 00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,839 Speaker 3: show him what I held up as I was saying 916 00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:03,480 Speaker 3: that he had no monitor right there. Sorry about that, Pal, 917 00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:05,600 Speaker 3: you know, I gotta sneak that one in where I can. 918 00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:07,600 Speaker 3: But I'll tell you what who you know? 919 00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:08,120 Speaker 4: Who else? 920 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 3: You know who else is a bigger nerd? Ian Rappaport 921 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 3: because he didn't make any of these Insider shows. So 922 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,960 Speaker 3: you don't make the insider shows. We crushed. You're not 923 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:20,920 Speaker 3: a nerd time, You're very creepy. Yeah, yeah, I know 924 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:24,759 Speaker 3: that's what happens. Uh yeah, I think he grabbed the 925 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,280 Speaker 3: wrong microphone. So we're having we're having. 926 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:27,600 Speaker 2: How about that? 927 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:29,759 Speaker 13: All right? 928 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,879 Speaker 4: There was a four hundred I think trading camp is over. 929 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 2: We gotta go, we gotta go, we gotta There was 930 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:37,240 Speaker 2: a four hundred meter. 931 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,200 Speaker 4: Race in the Olympics. What was that guy's name where 932 00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:40,040 Speaker 4: he finished strong? 933 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:40,880 Speaker 9: Uh? 934 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,319 Speaker 3: Tom, you were the guy that just coughed up the 935 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,279 Speaker 3: leave and just stumble into the finish Linetime, that was you, Hi, 936 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,799 Speaker 3: how are you? The twelves are there? Bye Tom, see 937 00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,400 Speaker 3: you later. This has been the Insiders. Thanks for joining us. 938 00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:52,840 Speaker 2: Love you