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Speaker 1: little bit more O b J O A little bit. Yes,
Speaker 1: we won't take the whole segment or anything like that,
Speaker 1: but because some of the players did speak to the
Speaker 1: media yesterday, it was brought up to them. You know,
Speaker 1: you had Michael Parsons making comments, taking it to Twitter.
Speaker 1: Even you had Ezekiel Elliott mentioning him as well. So
Speaker 1: when you I wanted to ask you guys your opinion
Speaker 1: on this, when you have players like those kind of
Speaker 1: voicing their opinion and their want and you know, putting
Speaker 1: it out there like we want him to come play
Speaker 1: with us, come win game with us, and all that
Speaker 1: what does that mean? I mean, how are you interpreting
Speaker 1: this kind of comments? I think I think their desire
Speaker 1: and want for this guy to join their team is
Speaker 1: obviously way greater than any kind of hurt feelings that
Speaker 1: might happen with a wide receiver here or here or here.
Speaker 1: That you're basically saying, we need to get better and
Speaker 1: this guy can help us, and if it hurts your feeling, sorry,
Speaker 1: get open. I mean that's basically kind of yeah, no
Speaker 1: I And today you're going to it Ceedee Lamb, which
Speaker 1: will be interesting, and you're gonna get Dak to talk
Speaker 1: as well. And now it's every day there seems like
Speaker 1: a different level of recruitment going on. And I even
Speaker 1: wore my LSU shirt today to recruit Odell here and
Speaker 1: also to Antagons. Trust me, my dreams have died in
Speaker 1: Fayetteville before, so I know what's about to happen this
Speaker 1: weekend in Arkansas at LSU. Yeah. But the thing with recruiting,
Speaker 1: I think it's so important that, especially with the player,
Speaker 1: and I was talking with uh, I was talking with
Speaker 1: a team that you know that had had Odell Beckham
Speaker 1: on their you know, squad, And the number one thing
Speaker 1: I said, what about this guy? I go, what I
Speaker 1: remember about Odell Beckham at LSU is how hard you
Speaker 1: have to recruit? You know, how hard do you have
Speaker 1: to He wants to feel loved and coddled and cared for.
Speaker 1: And the guy goes, you got him right. It ain't
Speaker 1: always about the money with this guy. He wants to
Speaker 1: feel he has a chance to win, and he wants
Speaker 1: everybody to love him and embrace him. And that's big.
Speaker 1: And I think we've seen it, whether it's whether it's
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones, Stephen Jones, Will McClay, Mike McCarthy, somebody in
Speaker 1: social media, whoever. For the Dallas Cowboys, they've got this
Speaker 1: approach that this is how it's probably gonna have to
Speaker 1: come down. It's probably gonna have to come down to
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy talking about him. Check, Jerry Jones talking about him. Check,
Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott talking about him. Check. You know Dak Prescott
Speaker 1: today talking about him. Check. We'll see about that. Check.
Speaker 1: I'm curious about that one, the Dak Prescott. Check. Dak
Speaker 1: is a very political minded guy. And what's so funny
Speaker 1: is every time I hear Dak and we got him
Speaker 1: to admit this on one oh five three the Fan,
Speaker 1: we made up a fictional team Team X, and like
Speaker 1: Eric Chiafallo asked Dak the question, Dak, tell me about
Speaker 1: Team X. Team X is always ready to play. You
Speaker 1: watch Team X on film because it's it's sometimes quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: you know, they get into a mode and yeah, they
Speaker 1: just yeah, they just kind of get into that. But
Speaker 1: if you have a very political guy. Now, you know,
Speaker 1: I have a feeling today you're going to hear Dak
Speaker 1: talk about a he's very happy with the receivers they have.
Speaker 1: Start there. He'll start there, and you know, and then
Speaker 1: they'll push on and he'll go listen. Odell Beckham is
Speaker 1: this you know, he's been a great player in this
Speaker 1: league for a long time. You know you'll get that mode.
Speaker 1: But this, whether this team has talked about it or not,
Speaker 1: they've done a good job of at least laying the
Speaker 1: groundwork to potentially go out and recruit this. I think
Speaker 1: there's still two weeks away from doing this. Though myself,
Speaker 1: I felt like, I mean everything short of a commercial
Speaker 1: that says like Odell Beckham will make plays and this
Speaker 1: and that. I'm Michael Parsons. I endorsed this man I'm
Speaker 1: just ready for a campaign. I'm ready. I'm ready for
Speaker 1: you guys here at Dallas Cowboys dot com, who has
Speaker 1: one of the best social media departments. Well, and by
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Speaker 1: That's where sean Lee birthday, not Sean Lee's birthday, a
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Speaker 1: But the thing about it is, I'm ready for Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com to fire that video that you get
Speaker 1: and it's all of a sudden, the recruiting video, you know,
Speaker 1: and you're like, okay, they're on board. Here we go.
Speaker 1: You know, we got this social we got this big
Speaker 1: department rolling it out there. Now. I could see highlights
Speaker 1: with Odell coming on the field crowd and you know, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not him catching the ball on you. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: that kind of I'm expecting that next. I'm expecting. I'm
Speaker 1: expecting if so that you start hearing more about it
Speaker 1: of actually, oh they're coming close. Well, it's about the physicals.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be about the physical once. And I think
Speaker 1: it's two weeks because I think he's still doing some
Speaker 1: medical things. I think there's some some well medical maybe
Speaker 1: he's getting himself in order. We had people say he's
Speaker 1: ready Jay Glazer. We've had people like Ian Rappaport, He's
Speaker 1: not gonna be ready till December. It's somewhere in between.
Speaker 1: It's somewhere in between that and the thing that I've
Speaker 1: been asking trainers doctors about this situation. It's like I've gone, well,
Speaker 1: what do you think? Well, I can't tell you what
Speaker 1: to think. I know everybody wants to sign this guy,
Speaker 1: but I can't tell you what to think. I haven't
Speaker 1: seen his knee, you know. That's the thing. Doctors and
Speaker 1: trainers are like, Hey, it's it'd be nice if we
Speaker 1: can like pull on that knee, moving around a little bit,
Speaker 1: see him run a little bit. You know, maybe we
Speaker 1: can kind of figure some things out. But until you
Speaker 1: start to see I think he's going to kind of
Speaker 1: let the dust settle on some of these teams and
Speaker 1: then he's going to make a determination where he would
Speaker 1: like to go. But I give Dallas credit, you know,
Speaker 1: for least showing early entry with the way that they're
Speaker 1: doing some recruiting of Odell Beck. Yeah, I mean you
Speaker 1: know you can say, well, why are we still talking
Speaker 1: about this and all that? And the reason why is
Speaker 1: because they're still talking about it. Garry's talking about it.
Speaker 1: McCarthy talked about McCarthy, a guy that doesn't even want
Speaker 1: to show you numbers on his on the practice uniforms
Speaker 1: in August, you know, but we'll we'll talk about this
Speaker 1: and say this is future conversations, I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: and then, like you said, so it'll be interesting to
Speaker 1: see today what CD says and also what DAK says.
Speaker 1: But they're still talking about it. And to me, it
Speaker 1: took a turn yesterday because you hear okay, you've mentioned
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones, Mike McCarthy, You hear those comments. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: so Dell that's great, Yes you want to sign him here.
Speaker 1: But then for me listening, see listening Mike say those
Speaker 1: is it just like it hypes you up even more
Speaker 1: and you're like, okay, when are we signing these papers?
Speaker 1: But so it changes the dynamic, and like you said,
Speaker 1: it's going to be interesting to see what Dak says today.
Speaker 1: He's gonna give the right answer and at that, but
Speaker 1: also knowing the rest of the wide receivers having to
Speaker 1: hear these like damn, we're not we're not good enough.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what's what it really is, that we're
Speaker 1: not well. At least these guys aren't in Green Bay
Speaker 1: where their quarterback talks about him not being good every
Speaker 1: day and he's like, honest about it, you know. I
Speaker 1: mean Aaron Rodgers stands up there and says, this is
Speaker 1: not my fault. You know, this is not my fault.
Speaker 1: You know, these receivers obviously need you know, they need
Speaker 1: this and need that, and you know they need less
Speaker 1: plays of this, and so yeah, I mean this this
Speaker 1: is one of those moves where in baseball and we
Speaker 1: all understand and you get into the Pennant race and
Speaker 1: you're like, give me that one more, make that one
Speaker 1: more deal, make that and and this deal could absolutely
Speaker 1: work for the Cowboys. It could absolutely work to go
Speaker 1: get a wide receiver that will go get that football.
Speaker 1: You know that he's proven that he proved. Just go
Speaker 1: back and watch him play for the Rams in the
Speaker 1: final month of the season last year, and then watch
Speaker 1: him through the playoffs. If he doesn't hurt his knee.
Speaker 1: He's gonna have two hundred yards in that game. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: catching the ball. That's what this guy can do for you.
Speaker 1: And maybe, I mean, that's your hope. We always talk
Speaker 1: about hope, um around here, that's your hope that that
Speaker 1: that player, if you get an opportunity, shows up for
Speaker 1: you at some point in time in this season and
Speaker 1: kind of drive you through some of these games down
Speaker 1: the stretch. And and also you know, you look at
Speaker 1: it from a fans' perspective of hey, let's let's go
Speaker 1: for this, let's try to win this thing. Let's you know,
Speaker 1: the you know, the opportunities there. The NFC is not
Speaker 1: that strong. The best team in the in the division
Speaker 1: or in the vision and the conference right now is
Speaker 1: a team that you know and could have could have
Speaker 1: beaten on the road with the backup quarterback. Um. So
Speaker 1: I think, you know, you push your chips in here.
Speaker 1: If it doesn't work, it doesn't work. But you come
Speaker 1: back and say, what did we do this year? Well,
Speaker 1: we had a pretty good talented team. We let some
Speaker 1: guys go in free agency, but we also signed Peters
Speaker 1: when Tyron Smith went down, We signed Anthony Barr, We
Speaker 1: signed if that happens Odell Beckham. We went for it,
Speaker 1: and and that's all I think that from a fan's perspective,
Speaker 1: that's all they really want, is like, let's go for it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we always talk about next year and all that. You
Speaker 1: still have to look it next year, but let's go
Speaker 1: for this. Um. Everyone deserves it. This team deserves it,
Speaker 1: this fan base deserves it. You know, the Dallas Skyways
Speaker 1: dot Com deserves it. I mean, like we deserve it.
Speaker 1: Let's go for it. Let's go for it. We all
Speaker 1: deserve deserve it. Let's I mean, at least try try.
Speaker 1: And it looks like they are so Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 1: And at least it's something that even if it doesn't
Speaker 1: work out, we know they tried. So and I think
Speaker 1: that's one of the things like even when we look
Speaker 1: at free agency sometimes we feel we as the consumer,
Speaker 1: the fan, the people that report on the team, we
Speaker 1: feel that they're not necessarily going for it or paying
Speaker 1: the price, or like trying to obtain as much value
Speaker 1: talent wise, part the money terry stuff. Now, I wanted
Speaker 1: to switch subjects. I don't know if you were going
Speaker 1: to say something else about him, Okay, why don't you
Speaker 1: go before we go on break, just kind of go
Speaker 1: down the injury, the practice report from yesterday. Um, Donovo
Speaker 1: went Wilson, he's limited, Yeah, you can relate me. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm dealing with that as well. Um. I think for
Speaker 1: him though, it sounds like he's doing more. Him and
Speaker 1: Noah Brown together, we're on that that we're limited, will
Speaker 1: do a little bit more. And then, you know, I
Speaker 1: think that all signs are kind of pointing up for
Speaker 1: both of them, both of those two guys. So m yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't hurt anything anything on the contrary there, No,
Speaker 1: I think the big one was what's going to happen
Speaker 1: with Zeke? You know, what's going to happen? And you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: see the thing about with the Zeke is and I
Speaker 1: was it seemed like that there was Jerry Jones positivity,
Speaker 1: hopium and then Mike McCarthy kind of brings it down.
Speaker 1: I think Zeke is really honest about where he is.
Speaker 1: I think he is. I mean, Zeke is one of
Speaker 1: those guys I think after what he went through last year,
Speaker 1: like listen, I just kept playing, I kept playing, I
Speaker 1: kept playing. I'm not going to do that anymore, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, he has a lot of pride about his
Speaker 1: toughness and all that. I think today is a really
Speaker 1: big day for him. You know, he didn't do as much.
Speaker 1: See if what he does today and if he doesn't
Speaker 1: do more than what he did yesterday, and it doesn't,
Speaker 1: there could be a really good chance that he doesn't
Speaker 1: play this week. And because they realize what's ahead of
Speaker 1: them the next two weeks Minnesota and then a quick
Speaker 1: one against the Giants, they're looking at that like, Okay,
Speaker 1: if we can find a way to get through this
Speaker 1: Packers game, maybe without him like they did the Bears game,
Speaker 1: and give him that full three weeks of rest, then
Speaker 1: they'll be better off when they play the Vikings in
Speaker 1: Minneapolis next weekend and then the Giants at home the
Speaker 1: following Thursday night, which will be a huge, huge game
Speaker 1: for how maybe maybe even wildcard seating might be sure.
Speaker 1: You know, So you got to think about those things
Speaker 1: going forward, and and if if he doesn't have if
Speaker 1: he doesn't it, I was told it has to be
Speaker 1: perfect today and if it's not, then we'll see him
Speaker 1: probably being active this weekend. Well, we're gonna talk about
Speaker 1: him in the second segment about the not him specifically,
Speaker 1: but the running back running back situation, and if a
Speaker 1: guy like Tony Polar can performed the way that he
Speaker 1: did like he did against the Bears, can he repeats
Speaker 1: something like that against Packers defense? And real quick, I mean,
Speaker 1: yesterday we already talked about Anthony Barr in his situation.
Speaker 1: He didn't practice yesterday, so he sounds doubtful today. Listen
Speaker 1: to Mike McCarthy talk. Yeah, he sounds a little bit
Speaker 1: doubtful for what's going to happen with him. And like
Speaker 1: Nick said, you know, he's going to anchor that thing
Speaker 1: or get anchor. He's gonna get himself ready to get
Speaker 1: ready for that Minnesota game next week. That's probably what
Speaker 1: he's shooting for right now. Well, in real quick, did you?
Speaker 1: I mean? I keep finding an interesting the situation with
Speaker 1: James Washington and kind of the way he explained things
Speaker 1: that you're kind of looking at. It sounds like he's
Speaker 1: ready to return, but they're planning his twenty one window.
Speaker 1: I think this has to do with I think this
Speaker 1: has to do with Odell Beckham myself. I do. I
Speaker 1: don't think they I do. I think like if they
Speaker 1: get Beckham, they're gonna they're gonna slow play this thing
Speaker 1: out the rest of the way unless something happens with
Speaker 1: another injury, like a Noah Brown injury or something like that.
Speaker 1: I have a feeling they're not in a big hurry
Speaker 1: right now. They're gonna see what happens with Beckham. If
Speaker 1: Beckham ends up going somewhere else or just they don't
Speaker 1: get him, you'll see the James Washington windows start. You know,
Speaker 1: I think James Washington and Odell Beckham are on the
Speaker 1: same plan. I really really do. Yeah, they get one
Speaker 1: the other one kind of you know, like if it's Washington,
Speaker 1: they slow play that, and you know they keep him
Speaker 1: over here, available and ready. If in fact, Beckham goes,
Speaker 1: then you see the windows start. That's what I think
Speaker 1: is gonna happen. I think so too. It was it
Speaker 1: just seemed kind of weird the way McCarthy kind of
Speaker 1: talked about that in the window and like, oh, you know,
Speaker 1: you want him to just come out, You want him
Speaker 1: to come out and say, listen, we're hunting Beckham right now.
Speaker 1: If he doesn't sign, we got James Washington. If if
Speaker 1: he if he signs, good, we'll be fine. We'll just
Speaker 1: keep James. He's getting paid everybody's happy. He's ready to go.
Speaker 1: He's on you know, he's it's like the movie Top Gun.
Speaker 1: He's over on Kat Too, ready to shoot off the
Speaker 1: deck in case they need some battle action up there.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. They got they got Yeah,
Speaker 1: they got my guy in Kat Too, Kat Too, right,
Speaker 1: I mean they're holding wait Kat Too. You know in
Speaker 1: both movies the hero was was that the cat Too guy? Yeah,
Speaker 1: the guy that was hanging out there at the end. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: If I spoiled the movie for you, I mean, that's
Speaker 1: your fault. You should have watched it by now. All right,
Speaker 1: So who's Kat Too? James Washington, James Washington, James, They've got,
Speaker 1: They've they've got. They're they're thinking they're gonna fire. They're
Speaker 1: gonna put Odell in the in the action, you know,
Speaker 1: and and fight and then but they got James Washington
Speaker 1: Cat Too, and he might have to come save the day.
Speaker 1: You never know, Amy, I mean, we won't know until
Speaker 1: we see it happen. And if he would be the
Speaker 1: guy to save they or not, I don't know. But
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Speaker 1: talk about what Green Bay has over there, the defensive
Speaker 1: side of it. Yeah, this is gonna be uh you
Speaker 1: know the things I worry about on the offensive side,
Speaker 1: talked about all yesterday. Go back and listen to that.
Speaker 1: I think running the ball is something I was talking
Speaker 1: to some guys in Green Bay about it this morning.
Speaker 1: They're like, listen, you guys are gonna kill us. I'm like,
Speaker 1: you don't know that. Don't say that kind of a
Speaker 1: thing where they they feel like that they're the middle
Speaker 1: of the road defense right now. They felt like that
Speaker 1: they they they've invested in the defense. But to the
Speaker 1: point where they haven't got the results that they really
Speaker 1: felt like that they deserve for their investment. They still
Speaker 1: have a really good I think. I think. I think
Speaker 1: losing Gary their defensive end, I think really hurts them.
Speaker 1: Or shot Gary. You know, he's number fifty two. He
Speaker 1: was their best pass rusher. He's the guy that's always
Speaker 1: around the ball. He's really good against the run. He's disruptive,
Speaker 1: he gets up the field. He's got some tank. Micah
Speaker 1: Parsons foul, he's got that how the Cowboys played defensive end.
Speaker 1: He's got that kind of ability, you know, like as
Speaker 1: a good run player, and it is a good as
Speaker 1: a good pass rusher. And I think that something that
Speaker 1: they're really really gonna miss Preston Smith and they got
Speaker 1: from the Redskins a while back at me said the
Speaker 1: Redskins the Commanders a while back. Uh. He he is
Speaker 1: a guy that I think does a much better job
Speaker 1: of playing the run. And the problem is when you
Speaker 1: run the ball at him, he's really good as far
Speaker 1: as not letting the ball get outside of him. When
Speaker 1: you when you look at how he plays, he's got
Speaker 1: really good length. Uh, he's good at the point of attack.
Speaker 1: He can extend on blockers. When the ball goes to
Speaker 1: the outside. There's times where you could see the redirection
Speaker 1: skills and stuff. So running the ball at his side,
Speaker 1: I don't think it's though necessarily the best thing to
Speaker 1: do here. This defense is going to remind you very
Speaker 1: similar to how the defense is played when they faced
Speaker 1: the Rams. Okay, so if you think about how the
Speaker 1: Cowboys attacked the Rams, it wasn't so much it was
Speaker 1: Cooper Rush. It wasn't just throwing the football. It was
Speaker 1: more of the running game stuff. And I feel like
Speaker 1: that that's that's where that's some of the some of
Speaker 1: the Cowboys game plan is going to come from that
Speaker 1: Rams game with the way how they did that. You know,
Speaker 1: and they obviously don't have an Aaron Donald they had been.
Speaker 1: Preston Smith is their version of it, even not as good.
Speaker 1: But Kenny Clark is good inside as a defensive tackle
Speaker 1: for them. That's something you have to come to think
Speaker 1: about him and jarn Reid. When I think of the
Speaker 1: Rams too, I also think of they have a guy
Speaker 1: that really can lock down your number one in corner
Speaker 1: and Jalen Ramsey. Yeah, the Packers have somebody like that. Yeah, Alexander, Alexander, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Jar Exilier, it can do that. Now. The thing about
Speaker 1: it is, though, if you look at if you if
Speaker 1: you look at Joe Barry, the defensive coordinator um for
Speaker 1: the Packers, Joe is not a big travel guy because
Speaker 1: Joe he comes from that the Rod Marinelli's system of defense,
Speaker 1: and so he's kind of morphed in some three four
Speaker 1: stuff away from the four to three. But he's kind of,
Speaker 1: you know, he's trying to match personnel or match his
Speaker 1: scheme with the personnel that he has forever. You know,
Speaker 1: Dom Capers was part of the they were three four
Speaker 1: three four scheme, and so they have that personnel and
Speaker 1: they're trying to kind of morph into more of a
Speaker 1: four three. But he doesn't believe in traveling because he
Speaker 1: feels like when you take a traveler, whether it's Alexander
Speaker 1: and you and say they move lamb, say they just
Speaker 1: walk lamb all across. The minute he crosses the center,
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, everybody else's responsibilities change. Joe Barry,
Speaker 1: Rod Marinelli, these guys have always believed that keep everybody
Speaker 1: the same and that way nobody has to make adjustments
Speaker 1: on the fly, so you'll see Alexander. He will play
Speaker 1: different size. But it's not one of those things where
Speaker 1: it's like star coverage that they're going to walk in
Speaker 1: with ceedee lamb the whole time. I don't believe. And
Speaker 1: that being said, and I know I say this a lot,
Speaker 1: but I just I don't think you can reiterate it enough.
Speaker 1: That's why Anthony Brown should get a lot more credit
Speaker 1: than he gets because it is. It is tough. And
Speaker 1: when Trayvon is traveling, so is Anthony Brown. He's traveling
Speaker 1: as well, and he's doing he's making changes in the
Speaker 1: in the corners when Jordan Lewis or now it's Bland
Speaker 1: or whoever you know. And so I think you got
Speaker 1: to give the whole secondary some praise for that. Yes,
Speaker 1: give praise to Digs for being good enough to actually
Speaker 1: take their number one, but you know, technique inside of
Speaker 1: the field and all that matters. And for Anthony Brown
Speaker 1: and those guys to flip around like that, I think
Speaker 1: they should be applauded for that as well. Yeah. They
Speaker 1: you make a great point there with that. In the secondary. Uh,
Speaker 1: Like I say, I'd stay away from Alexander is what
Speaker 1: I would try to do. He's one of these guys
Speaker 1: that when you watch him play, if the ball is
Speaker 1: going to his side, say you have a route combination
Speaker 1: to his side, whether routes or working there, he will
Speaker 1: drop coverage to go take another guy. I mean he will.
Speaker 1: He will almost like he's reading, like he's gambling that Okay,
Speaker 1: I see where you're gonna throw this football. I see
Speaker 1: how the route combination is going to develop, and then
Speaker 1: he will just fire off his guy and then like
Speaker 1: undercut a route. You know, say there's a route two
Speaker 1: routes to one side. He'll leave his guy to go
Speaker 1: help the other guy and then try and make a
Speaker 1: play on the ball. So you have to be Dak
Speaker 1: can't sit there and think, Okay, I've got to throw.
Speaker 1: I've got to throw. I've got to throw, and it's open.
Speaker 1: He's got he has to understand that if you do
Speaker 1: go to that side, and maybe the Cowboys with the
Speaker 1: game plan, you try and keep things away from Alexander's
Speaker 1: side so he can't come over and help. That's Jalen's
Speaker 1: over for me. Yeah. If he's going to stay over there,
Speaker 1: let him run down the field. Yeah, just keep I
Speaker 1: mean anything to keep away from Alexander. Now, I will
Speaker 1: say this about this secondary though they're a group, though
Speaker 1: that doesn't I don't think they tackle Alexander tackle as well.
Speaker 1: But when you talk about Amos the safety and Savage
Speaker 1: the safety, there have been times where the ball running
Speaker 1: the ball at them and they've been the one guy
Speaker 1: in the hole to make the play and they've missed tackles.
Speaker 1: So if you're Pollard's, if it's Pollard or Zeke gets
Speaker 1: the opportunity in this game, there could be some miss
Speaker 1: tackles at the point of attack and then turn into
Speaker 1: some big plays because these safeties don't tackle particularly well.
Speaker 1: If you're going to attack a guy on this thing,
Speaker 1: I mentioned Rashul Douglas. He's a guy that I feel
Speaker 1: like that people pick on him a little bit more
Speaker 1: because of what goes on with Alexander and stuff. He's
Speaker 1: number twenty nine, So if you see the Cowboys kind
Speaker 1: of firing the ball his direction, there's a reason for
Speaker 1: that because I feel like that between him, Eric Stokes
Speaker 1: and Alexander, he's the weak link of this of that secondary.
Speaker 1: And then I mentioned the tackling with Amilson Savage. I
Speaker 1: don't think it's up to the standards that we've seen
Speaker 1: here with the Cowboys, with the way that Curse and
Speaker 1: Wilson and those guys tackle around the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 1: So let's cut the offense Cowboys offense into two parts,
Speaker 1: one the running game and then the passing game. Starting
Speaker 1: off with the running game. Looking at what you got
Speaker 1: and we know Zeke is day to day. If you
Speaker 1: were the Cowboys, how would you prepare the running game
Speaker 1: for this weekend? Do you play Zeke let's say he's
Speaker 1: kind of okay to go and get in there, or
Speaker 1: do you stick to kind of what you did against
Speaker 1: the Bears? I think, to me, and after today, we'll
Speaker 1: know Friday we come on and start talking about what
Speaker 1: we think about the game. I think tomorrow will have
Speaker 1: an idea of what direction that they're going to go.
Speaker 1: If it's a if it's a Pollard Davis ticket for
Speaker 1: this week, I think that's you know, they they proved
Speaker 1: against the Bears that they can they can do that.
Speaker 1: You know. I don't think there's I don't think there's
Speaker 1: gonna huge just drop off there. I think the physicality
Speaker 1: in this game. I think both teams are going to
Speaker 1: try and establish the run. I think I think it's
Speaker 1: really important for the Packers because they don't want to
Speaker 1: get in a situation. They've had some problems with rogers
Speaker 1: and protections and things like that. Even though they're offensive
Speaker 1: lines back, so them running the ball protects them. Dallas
Speaker 1: running the ball I think protects them as well. But
Speaker 1: I think Dallas can be more balanced in this game.
Speaker 1: Then I have to say, Okay, they're really bad playing
Speaker 1: run defense. Just go run the ball as much as
Speaker 1: you can. We've seen some games what Detroit, you know,
Speaker 1: people like that, they're really bad on the run defense.
Speaker 1: Just run it at him. You know you'll be fine.
Speaker 1: I think Dallas can be balanced in this game. But
Speaker 1: I think if it turns into like I said, if
Speaker 1: it turns into Pollard and your rookie running back Mollek
Speaker 1: Davis having to play, I think they could be okay
Speaker 1: in this game. I really do. And as far as
Speaker 1: the wide receiver group, Nick, we know, we know we're
Speaker 1: still talking about it, and we know Noah Brown is
Speaker 1: still banked up, he's limited. We don't know his tats
Speaker 1: for this weekend yet. But as far as the group
Speaker 1: as a whole, do you think do you feel they
Speaker 1: can carry over what they did against the Bears, or
Speaker 1: you know it's going to be a challenge. I think
Speaker 1: it's a challenge, and I think there were light in
Speaker 1: that game against the Bears. They did a nice job.
Speaker 1: I mean the CD and Gallop, they both made plays
Speaker 1: and Tolbert was kind of running around. Didn't do a
Speaker 1: whole lot there. Turpin, we didn't see a lot out
Speaker 1: of him. He was the fourth receiver. You know, they
Speaker 1: had to put CJ. Goodwin in a situation where he
Speaker 1: and I'm sure he's practicing some receiver as well as
Speaker 1: an emergency guy. So I think they would love to
Speaker 1: have Noah Brown back if he can, if he can
Speaker 1: make it back for this game, but if not, it
Speaker 1: is a challenge where they where they kind of offset
Speaker 1: that is with the tight ends. You know, with the
Speaker 1: thirteen fourteen personnel. McEwen out there a lot. I guess
Speaker 1: he's on the roster now so they don't have to
Speaker 1: call up anybody. So that's how they're going to play it,
Speaker 1: and I think that affects the running game, passing game.
Speaker 1: It works because Hendershot and Ferguson are both athletic tight
Speaker 1: ends where they can do some things with that. They
Speaker 1: can stay in in block and not be in bad
Speaker 1: you know, in harm's way. They also can go out
Speaker 1: and win routes, you know. So that's what that's what
Speaker 1: the advantage of a thirteen personnel does. Absolutely if you
Speaker 1: can do both, absolutely, and to me with it turns
Speaker 1: into and I don't think the wind is going to
Speaker 1: be a factor in this game. But we've talked about
Speaker 1: the field conditions. We've talked about Okay, is it going
Speaker 1: to be one of those things get people going one way,
Speaker 1: take the ball back the other way. The Cowboys have
Speaker 1: done a great job those simple little passes, whether it's
Speaker 1: to the Schultz, Hendershot whoever. You know, they found a
Speaker 1: way with the boots, the waggles, especially if they get
Speaker 1: the run game going in this thing and all of
Speaker 1: a sudden Green Bays having to sell out to stop
Speaker 1: the run and then you get a tight end coming
Speaker 1: across and it's just an easy, simple throw. So I
Speaker 1: think the tight ends are going to be big, big
Speaker 1: factor in this game. It might not be because they say,
Speaker 1: I think their best player on defense is their corner Alexander.
Speaker 1: So I'm doing everything I can to stay away from him.
Speaker 1: But if it means I can have to put Savage
Speaker 1: and Amos and these linebackers and these guys in coverage
Speaker 1: on these tight ends, and it's simple throws for Dak.
Speaker 1: I think I'm doing that all day long. If they're
Speaker 1: going to give it to me. All right, let's take
Speaker 1: our final break. When we come back. We're going to
Speaker 1: kind of summarize the you know, the weak areas for
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Speaker 1: segment of the Break. Final segment, and I wanted to
Speaker 1: talk about the environment. This is something you know that
Speaker 1: it's a completely different environment than what the Cowboys have
Speaker 1: faced this year so far. You know, we're headed into
Speaker 1: cold weather now. The climate is starting to change, and
Speaker 1: we haven't seen this team and we know how that affects.
Speaker 1: And you know, I think about players like Zeke for example,
Speaker 1: players are struggling with a certain type of injury. When
Speaker 1: you talk about them possibly playing in this game, we
Speaker 1: know how that cold weather kind of gives you a
Speaker 1: different kind of pain in those types of injuries. So
Speaker 1: I just wanted to ask you, are there any types
Speaker 1: of concern that you expect from the Cowboys side of
Speaker 1: them dealing or struggling with I'm looking at the weather
Speaker 1: right now and it's just like thanks. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: seventy degrees right now in Green Bay, and tomorrow the
Speaker 1: high is fifty two, and then Saturday the high is
Speaker 1: thirty seven, and Sunday the highs thirty seven. So today's
Speaker 1: the highest seventy three. So we appreciate it, you know,
Speaker 1: thanks for doing that for us so we can get
Speaker 1: the experience. But I will say this, it's not like
Speaker 1: from a practice standpoint, It's not like where all the
Speaker 1: packers are used to it. They should be used to
Speaker 1: it in the last few years, but they're not going
Speaker 1: to be used to it like right now. I mean,
Speaker 1: they haven't been practicing and it's seventy degrees. It's probably
Speaker 1: seventy degrees here. Yeah, they're practicing. I'm probably practicing outside. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So you know that I think that's kind of one
Speaker 1: of those things that they're probably enjoying it. Because I
Speaker 1: remember living up there for five years. Around Halloween it
Speaker 1: started the snow, you know, that's when it's starting to
Speaker 1: get kind of crazy cold. I just don't think that.
Speaker 1: I don't think the cold will be a factor. I
Speaker 1: think you'll be interesting when when you guys get there
Speaker 1: with when we talk to Christie Scales in the pregame
Speaker 1: and which she's on the field, and the wind direction,
Speaker 1: and that stadium's changed a lot since they've built it up.
Speaker 1: You know, it's the bowl that you know, when I
Speaker 1: first started there ninety two, it was a bowl, and
Speaker 1: then we then they put up the you know, they
Speaker 1: started put up the press box and then the skyboxes,
Speaker 1: and then they closed it in, and so the wind
Speaker 1: maybe not as much as a factor. I think the
Speaker 1: only thing about it is too that I could say
Speaker 1: the field conditions, because that when you get obviously at
Speaker 1: seventy degrees right now, you're getting like warm air up there,
Speaker 1: you know, and then the warm air turns cold, and
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden it turns it gets on
Speaker 1: the field, and when you play these three twenty five
Speaker 1: games or night games, you'll be able to see the field.
Speaker 1: It's not like ice, but it's a sheen to it.
Speaker 1: And if you don't have the right shoes, it's a problem.
Speaker 1: I mean, you will see, like I guarantee you in
Speaker 1: this game, there'll be somebody that runs a route and
Speaker 1: falls and it might be an interception, or it might
Speaker 1: be a tip ball, or it might be a key
Speaker 1: play that gets you off the field on third down
Speaker 1: because somebody fell down. And that's the thing about with
Speaker 1: when you're play in Green Bay this time of year
Speaker 1: is that it's not really it's not to the point
Speaker 1: it's not that bitter cold. When you get late in
Speaker 1: the season near you know, near the after Christmas, that's
Speaker 1: what it turns into. You're dealing with a nineteen degree
Speaker 1: day or a twenty degree day or something like that.
Speaker 1: And that you know, if you've listened to McCarthy's press conferences,
Speaker 1: he's talked about cleats about five, five or six times,
Speaker 1: like if anybody has an issue like that, wearing the
Speaker 1: wrong shoes and all, that's that's on them because they
Speaker 1: they have been prepared for this. Uh. He you know,
Speaker 1: he he knows what this stadium, obviously in the grass
Speaker 1: is like and I think of a guy like Turpin
Speaker 1: who wants to play fast, wants to be you know.
Speaker 1: He actually if you go back and look at that,
Speaker 1: and I know you did that opening kickoff against the Eagles,
Speaker 1: it's probably a touchdown. Yeah, he's he trips, you know.
Speaker 1: Now that's big thick grass. He's maybe not used to
Speaker 1: play in. He saw something, he made a cut and
Speaker 1: he did it later in the game too that they
Speaker 1: got a big run. But that might have been to
Speaker 1: the house to start that game. How how different could
Speaker 1: that have been? Um, but he tripped up and whatever.
Speaker 1: And so sometimes it is it's footing and McCarthy's doing it.
Speaker 1: I think he's doing a good job of letting them
Speaker 1: know that, you know, just the other things that you
Speaker 1: have to deal with in a game like this. It's
Speaker 1: two thy fourteen, the last it's the playoff game, the
Speaker 1: last time they've been up there. Uh oh, no, sixteen
Speaker 1: da when it's Yeah, So I was thinking because when
Speaker 1: we went up there in fourteen for that playoff game,
Speaker 1: the field was completely just and it was a really
Speaker 1: warm day. It was it was a temperature was like
Speaker 1: in the high twenties for that time of year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's clarify what warm days well for Lambeau Field, for
Speaker 1: lambou Field, for Lambo Field a playoff game, because I
Speaker 1: remember watching the game from the from the field, but
Speaker 1: the field was chopped up. Yeah, but of your a
Speaker 1: lot of layers that you had on. I had way
Speaker 1: too many layers you You couldn't have been moved around
Speaker 1: like that day like you were like layered up. I
Speaker 1: was so layered up. And but it was a for
Speaker 1: that time of year. It was an unusually warm day.
Speaker 1: It was not one of those brutal days that it
Speaker 1: wasn't like that day in Chicago that we endured that
Speaker 1: night game in Chicago that we endured that one time.
Speaker 1: But but but I think now for this time, yeah,
Speaker 1: you'll catch your break. Let's see what the wind is.
Speaker 1: Just note the field, and I think Mike McCarthy's on.
Speaker 1: Then I think that's the good thing. And I think
Speaker 1: that helps. And maybe it might be a situation too.
Speaker 1: You might be worried about Zeke and stuff uff like
Speaker 1: that with the knee. Do you want him running on
Speaker 1: that turf that tends to be a little slippery on
Speaker 1: those three twenty five games. Now, to summarize and going
Speaker 1: back to the conversations we were having in the second segment.
Speaker 1: You know, you'd mentioned a lot of their players, saying,
Speaker 1: kind of the guys that struggle, the guys are the
Speaker 1: most talented ones on that group. If you were to
Speaker 1: look at this matchup, and I started with you, Nick,
Speaker 1: which would be the area that the Cowboys can take
Speaker 1: the most advantage? To me, I think that they're gonna
Speaker 1: I mean, I think their strength is going to be
Speaker 1: running the football, and I think I think running into
Speaker 1: the outside, outside in you know. But but Pollard, I
Speaker 1: think they found something there. I don't think this is
Speaker 1: just something like, oh, Zeke, Zeke was out, Poulard had
Speaker 1: a big game. I think they're they're kind of seeing
Speaker 1: something a little bit, and whether they want to admit
Speaker 1: it or not, I do think it's a situation where
Speaker 1: Pollard deserves more carries. He deserves some inside runs as well,
Speaker 1: because he can he can break from the outside. But
Speaker 1: I think him on the outside is gonna be big.
Speaker 1: But I think just running the ball. If Zeke doesn't play,
Speaker 1: I think the league Davis could have some success. Now,
Speaker 1: Nick's right about this, this team, when you play a
Speaker 1: three to four front, it's we always talk about the
Speaker 1: two gaps where you extend and look for the ball
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. This line, defensive line tends to
Speaker 1: catch blocks. I mean when I mean catch, it's like
Speaker 1: instead of firing in and controlling and getting off blocks,
Speaker 1: they tend to get to you and then they're catching you,
Speaker 1: you know, into their body and then they're trying to
Speaker 1: kind of find things. And I think that's where it
Speaker 1: gives the Cowboys avanage. Especially what we've seen off the
Speaker 1: right side with Martin and Steel together and then even
Speaker 1: with Beyondish at the center. They've done a good job.
Speaker 1: But when that ball comes off that right side, whether
Speaker 1: it's the scoops or the reaches or whatever they have
Speaker 1: to do or they put when those tight ends over
Speaker 1: there and block, they've gotten some push. And Pollard and
Speaker 1: those guys have done a good job of when they
Speaker 1: see a cut to go ahead and make that cut.
Speaker 1: So I think I think Nick's right. I think running
Speaker 1: the ball would be a good thing against you guys,
Speaker 1: and going without the way they play defense. Do you
Speaker 1: think this is a scenario where you could see Dak
Speaker 1: running the ball somewhat, I mean kind of similar to
Speaker 1: what we saw a couple of weeks ago, but him
Speaker 1: kind of whin, you know, using that his legs a
Speaker 1: little more. Do you feel that, man, I'll tell you
Speaker 1: what I watched last week. I know you guys were
Speaker 1: everybody was doing their own things and stuff. Like I
Speaker 1: sat down for the first time I got to watch. Well,
Speaker 1: we've seen what Fields did with the bear, and then
Speaker 1: you watch him the next week against the Dolphins, and
Speaker 1: what a fact. Now they didn't win the game, but
Speaker 1: these running quarterbacks, you sit down, you watch the red
Speaker 1: zone channel, these running quarterbacks, and you even have to
Speaker 1: worry about that a little bit. With Aaron Rodgers, Like
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're playing man coverage and you
Speaker 1: get out of your lane and he takes off running
Speaker 1: and he kind of he runs, he looks, he runs,
Speaker 1: he looks, he runs, and then he slides down, you know,
Speaker 1: and then it's a first down. And these running quarterbacks
Speaker 1: that have been able to take advantage, you know of
Speaker 1: when you play man coverage and you get out lane
Speaker 1: and they take off running. I mean Gino Smith in
Speaker 1: Seattle watching that game, drops back pressures all over, it
Speaker 1: runs and now it's like an eighteen yard game and
Speaker 1: you're just you know, You're like, damn, how did that happen?
Speaker 1: You know, well, it happened because you're playing a man
Speaker 1: coverage and you get out of your lanes. So yeah,
Speaker 1: if if Dad can, it's gonna be one of those
Speaker 1: games were they're gonna need plays those twenty sixteen the
Speaker 1: Lucky Whitehead Jet sweep. You know that they're gonna need breaks,
Speaker 1: uh David Herbott punching the ball out or or Rogers
Speaker 1: just dropping the snap out near the goal line. You
Speaker 1: know they're gonna need that kind of play. I know
Speaker 1: that the Packers records bad, but I feel like that
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers wants to beat They could They could beat
Speaker 1: Dallas this week and turn around and lose to Tennessee
Speaker 1: the next week. That's how this Packard team could be.
Speaker 1: I just feel like that Aaron Rodgers is going to
Speaker 1: make this a personal game. Yeah. I think he's going
Speaker 1: to make it personal that he does not want to
Speaker 1: lose to Mike McCarthy, I really And that's what's scares
Speaker 1: me to death right now. And and he's got that
Speaker 1: ability he's going to control the game as the quarterback.
Speaker 1: You know, I know I was running around there with
Speaker 1: that whole thing, but the Cowboys have ten ten assistants
Speaker 1: and a head coach and nine other assistants that want
Speaker 1: to make it personal as well, but they don't control
Speaker 1: the game like like Rogers has. So yeah he's look bad,
Speaker 1: Yeah he's looked bad at times. Really, where I think
Speaker 1: the Cowboys though, where this is where I think the
Speaker 1: Cowboys are going to have another big advantage is is
Speaker 1: that their corners can cover their guys. I think you
Speaker 1: can just cover them. They don't have to to do
Speaker 1: a whole lot of extra things. And then that's what
Speaker 1: allows them to go and run in Parsons to rush
Speaker 1: and those guys to do what they do because I
Speaker 1: think I think whoever is at Lazard whatever, I think
Speaker 1: Digs can can cover him, and I think Brown can
Speaker 1: cover the other side. And I don't think they have
Speaker 1: to compromise what they do in the in the secondary
Speaker 1: to get after Rogers and do that and force him
Speaker 1: into bad decisions. So that that's where I think I
Speaker 1: think that they're better than they've ever been against Rogers
Speaker 1: and them is the secondary versus the receivers. So we'll see,
Speaker 1: it'll be interesting. The one thing that I have on
Speaker 1: my mind listen to Okay, you talking about their offense,
Speaker 1: you're talking about their defense. There's nothing. I think this
Speaker 1: is a game that the Cowboys can definitely win. But
Speaker 1: the only area that kind of concerns me a little
Speaker 1: bit our penalties and how that can affect. I mean,
Speaker 1: we've seen it in the past a long time ago,
Speaker 1: but just kind of that area of if it goes
Speaker 1: the wrong way for the Cowboys, you can easily just
Speaker 1: lose that game. Oh oh no, We've Cowboy fans know
Speaker 1: all good and well about referees at lambeau Field. You
Speaker 1: know that. There's a there's documentaries about that, you know.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't know who the officials got this game.
Speaker 1: I'll have it tomorrow and we'll get an idea. But
Speaker 1: I think letting them play effect would help the Cowboys
Speaker 1: more than somebody is going to call this thing tight,
Speaker 1: no doubt, because that's one way you know they're crafty.
Speaker 1: Is gonna be crafty. They're gonna they can twelve mint
Speaker 1: on the field, they can PIU down the field, you know,
Speaker 1: and that could happen hard counts all that stuff. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: and with that, we have ended the show for today.
Speaker 1: We'll be back tomorrow for another show. We'll kind of
Speaker 1: summarize everything in predictions, Prediction, Game Day prediction, See what's
Speaker 1: going to happen this weekend over there at lambeau Field
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