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Speaker 1: We're back here on another edition of the Giants Little Podcast,

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Speaker 1: brought to you by Citizens, the official bank of the

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Speaker 1: New York Football Giants. I am John Schmelk.

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Speaker 2: There's our Position series.

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Speaker 1: We kick off the defensive side of the ball with

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Speaker 1: a look at the defensive tackles on this Giants roster,

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Speaker 1: including the big man in the middle, Dexter Lawrence. All right,

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Speaker 1: and now we're joined by Dexter Lawrence. And if you're

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Speaker 1: listening to this on audio, I suggest to go to

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Speaker 1: the YouTube page because you can see Dexter in the

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Speaker 1: beautiful New Century reguniform the helmet. So what do you

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Speaker 1: think of it now that you have it on that?

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Speaker 3: What do you? I love it?

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Speaker 4: First of all, it's comfortable to be in, very lightweight.

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Speaker 4: I like the color scheme. They did a good job

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Speaker 4: putting this together.

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Speaker 2: Well you look good man, Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I think your defenses look pretty damn good in practice

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Speaker 1: so far this spring. How do you think about how

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Speaker 1: the group's coming together?

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Speaker 4: It's coming together pretty well. We just we continue to

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Speaker 4: learn the playbook to be more comfortable with it, like

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Speaker 4: because we've got new DC and stuff. But I think

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Speaker 4: we're gelling together as a team and comaraderie is good.

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Speaker 1: So I asked your defensive arncore Andre Patterson a couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks ago. I said, so, you know, in this

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Speaker 1: new system, is there any chance that you take Dexter Lawrence,

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Speaker 1: you know, off the noose on early downs beause you

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Speaker 1: had so many other kind of big guys in the room.

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Speaker 1: He goes, are you trying to get me fired?

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Speaker 2: So I guess my question for you is that do

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Speaker 2: at all? With how systems being put.

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Speaker 4: In, you know, not much. They allow me to be me,

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Speaker 4: which is which is what I like. Uh, you know

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Speaker 4: me wanted to continue to grow as a player, you know,

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Speaker 4: play I want to play the whole line, you know

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Speaker 4: what I mean, just to just to continue to grow

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Speaker 2: So it's still is pretty much.

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Speaker 3: The same thing.

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Speaker 4: I'm still you know, playing those but you know I'm

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Speaker 4: playing I'm trying to dabble in three techniques.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was talking.

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Speaker 1: I think it was Nacho that I was having a

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Speaker 1: conversation I talked to so many guys today where he said,

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Speaker 1: based on once you wine up and if the offense

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Speaker 1: shifts like you're gonna have to just right. Yeah, So

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Speaker 1: basically everyone's basically learning all the spots so much? Right,

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Speaker 1: How was that been trying to learn every spot in

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's it's it's good because the guys

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Speaker 4: go through the playbook, talk about it, and you know,

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Speaker 4: we look at each other if you ask them what

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Speaker 4: it's coming along. Its yelling pretty good and I'm excited.

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Speaker 1: And when you talk about this defense and the way

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Speaker 1: defensive coaches keep two guys off their best players and.

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Speaker 2: That and that's part of it.

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Speaker 1: You want to try to set up one on ones

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Speaker 1: for guys like you, guys like Brian Burns to win.

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Speaker 1: How do you think this scheme, the way they have

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the isolation would just happen naturally because

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Speaker 4: So I think it's going to naturally happen because all

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Speaker 1: All right, final question, how do you great?

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Speaker 2: Can this front be?

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Speaker 1: Once you get everyone on the field and I'm just

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Speaker 3: At the same time, right, Uh, you know, pretty nasty.

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Speaker 4: I think our biggest thing is not is rushing together

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Speaker 1: THATX good stuff man, thank you. And now we're joined

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Speaker 1: by Giants defensive lineman Ryder Anderson Righter. How are you

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Speaker 1: manow So, how do you foresee your role in Shane

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Speaker 1: Bowen's defensive system? What do you think they're gonna have

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Speaker 5: Of really just just being being in an explosive addition

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Speaker 5: to the defensive line. Uh, agatting after the passer and

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Speaker 1: Now, maybe you guys don't think about it this way,

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Speaker 1: but when I think of defensive tackles, I think of

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm kind of your bigger nose types than

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Speaker 1: I think of kind of like the Leonard Williams body type,

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Speaker 1: plays more of a three technique style, right. I feel

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Speaker 1: like you're one of the guys in this team that

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's a lot of other guys. You've

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Speaker 1: you put me at the three tech I have a

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Speaker 3: Uh yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 5: A lot of guys in our room are like larger

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Speaker 1: How was your off season been. What were some of

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Speaker 1: the things you've been trying to focus on to become

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Speaker 5: Off season has been great, Primarily just making sure that

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Speaker 5: I come in healthy and uh an explosive those are

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Speaker 5: those are my two biggest things. Coming from last year,

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Speaker 5: I gain a lot of weight going into my second year,

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Speaker 5: and I felt really strong, but I just wanted to

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Speaker 5: confine to my my quickness and my my twitch. So

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Speaker 5: that's my big emphasis this offseason.

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Speaker 1: Is that something that they talked to you about with

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Speaker 1: the new defensive system, they wanted you a little bit twitch,

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Speaker 5: Uh, yeah, for sure talking to Dre because Dre he

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Speaker 1: So have you seen have you felt that when you've

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt, no doubt.

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Speaker 5: And every day I just put that emphasis on, you know,

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Speaker 1: So what has it been like trying to learn a

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Speaker 5: I mean, just like it always is. You know, you

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Speaker 3: In and wants to instill in the whole defense.

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Speaker 1: How is kind of this defensive line group coming together?

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Speaker 1: You have some new faces in there this offseason.

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Speaker 3: It's it's coming coming together great, honestly.

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Speaker 5: You know, we we added a couple of people who

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Speaker 5: got UH signed to free agent rookies and buying a

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Speaker 3: So yeah, it's looking good for sure.

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Speaker 1: Where do you feel like you've made the most progress

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Speaker 1: and improved the most since you've gotten here and put

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Speaker 5: Just my my understanding, my knowledge for the game, especially

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Speaker 5: you know, coming from year one to year two, I

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Speaker 5: really fucked the game slowed down, so I was able

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Speaker 5: to to, uh, to really just start to kind of

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Speaker 5: defense and defensive line specifically. I have a great coach

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Speaker 5: for that, you know, Jay Patterson. He's he's well renowned

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Speaker 5: in the in the sport, especially defensive line specifically. So

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Speaker 5: just being able to have a mind like that and

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Speaker 5: learn from him just has been very valuable to me.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate your time.

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Speaker 1: we're joined by Giants defensive lineman DJ Davison, DJ. We

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Speaker 1: just talked to Jordan o' riley. Yes, how is this

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Speaker 1: system different for you in terms of what they're asking

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Speaker 1: you to do on the defensive line under Shaine Ball

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Speaker 7: Honestly, I just think it comes down to you just

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Speaker 7: got to just beat the man in front of you.

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Speaker 7: That's the biggest difference, and that's what it's always been.

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Speaker 1: So right, I gotta imagine, now, what is this office

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Speaker 1: have been like for you? You're not rehabbing from an injury, right,

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Speaker 1: You're coming back. You're a hundred percent. So how have

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Speaker 1: you been able to take advantage of having like a

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think the biggest thing honestly when Hey said,

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Speaker 7: I was injured last year going this last years season,

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Speaker 7: so I was more focused on just getting healthy, being

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Speaker 7: able to move my body the right way that I can.

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Speaker 7: But this year, this off season, I was able to

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Speaker 7: actually go in and work on like actual skills like hands,

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Speaker 2: Come a better football player.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, becoming a better football player, and like that's I

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Speaker 7: feel like that's what I missed from the like going

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Speaker 7: into last year, going instead of going to this year.

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Speaker 7: It was great off in Arizona. I've been working with

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Speaker 7: the Bernard Berry out there D Line training camp, a

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Speaker 7: few of my coaches back back there, Leg Graham, some

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Speaker 7: weightlifting facilities and those are the things that I wasn't

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Speaker 3: But this is full too. It's full go.

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Speaker 7: I can work on everything rather than just upper body

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Speaker 7: or just here and there.

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Speaker 2: So where have you seen the progress?

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Speaker 1: Where do you think you have gotten better as a

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Speaker 7: I think my mental aspect of my game, just understanding

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Speaker 7: that I am good at, and really focusing on those

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Speaker 7: my explosiveness, my hips, stretching, being being more mobile, all

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Speaker 7: sit down and just reflect on those.

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Speaker 1: So I know you were healthy enough to play last year,

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Speaker 3: I don't have to.

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Speaker 1: So where do you see yourself fitting on this defensive line?

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Speaker 1: You see yourself playing three technique a little bit more

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Speaker 1: Where do you see them using you the most in

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Speaker 7: Honestly, where I mean nose tackle, three technique defensive end

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Speaker 1: You've been had a five technique right in base right.

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Speaker 1: So that's awesome.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 1: Do you have many major goals for this year?

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Speaker 7: My biggest goal really is just to to whatever create

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Speaker 3: That's about it.

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Speaker 1: Final, final detailed question. Do you guys have some two

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Speaker 3: Just depends on the call. You know. Obviously you can

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Speaker 7: You can be in especially this one and the other

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Speaker 2: So awesome, DJ, good luck man. We appreciate it, dude.

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Speaker 3: Perfect.

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Speaker 2: And now we are joined by the one and only.

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Speaker 2: What's up?

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Speaker 8: Man?

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Speaker 2: How are you?

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Speaker 8: Man? I'm doing great?

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Speaker 2: Yourself, I'm doing great.

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Speaker 1: So how's it been for you a defensive lineman learning

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Speaker 2: So is it similar to something you've done in the past.

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Speaker 8: Yes, it's much more aggressive, but I love it. It's very

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Speaker 8: to be and then after that shoot just make plays.

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Speaker 1: That's almost every guy on you know, not from a

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Speaker 8: I mean it's just times where you know you're bringing

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Speaker 8: can get hit from different angles, but still there's odds

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Speaker 1: I was talking to Bobby Okaka and I asked, compared

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Speaker 1: But he said, in this system, it's one gap city.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you must love that.

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 8: I mean it's just one of those things like if

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Speaker 3: And I love it.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: The thing about it, though, when I think of one

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Speaker 8: I mean schematically we are getting up feel, but within

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Speaker 1: That's interesting. How good can this defensive front base between you?

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Speaker 3: Man, the sky's the limit.

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Speaker 8: I'm actually eager and excited to see it all come together.

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Speaker 1: Three technique for you?

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Speaker 2: You think this year? Man, are you pumped for that?

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Speaker 8: Every year it's always you're gonna play three. You might

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 1: The reason I asked that, though, is because I feel

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Speaker 8: I agree with you, and I'm gonna go back to

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Speaker 8: three and I end up writing those. So look, they're big,

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Speaker 8: they're awesome, they're they're strong, but they don't do what

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Speaker 2: You can't wait to see it, sir, Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Now we're joined by Giant's big defensive tackle joining around Jordan.

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Speaker 3: How are you, man, man, I'm doing good. How you doing?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing great?

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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 1: So this is your first real NFL offseason, right you

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Speaker 9: I just think just having the time and just time

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Speaker 9: I think that's the help a big, a big a lot,

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Speaker 1: No absolutely new defense. You still have your defensive line

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Speaker 1: coach here, right, Dre Pattersons is one of the best

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Speaker 9: I just think just keeping everything the same and then

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not as much as I still remember watching

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Speaker 1: dbs and linebackers on blitz packages. Right, Not as much

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, Yeah, it's a lot. It's a lot of straight

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Speaker 1: In terms of technique, in terms of gap responsibility, things

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Speaker 9: It's it's really like it's a lot of same patterns,

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Speaker 9: We we like to move our move our line a lot.

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Speaker 9: It's not it's not really complicated that it's just line

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Speaker 1: But you guys will shift based on formation, right, based

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Speaker 9: End is and then that and and but it's it's

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 1: That makes sense? Do you foresee yourself this year playing

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Speaker 1: three technique? Where do they think they're going to use

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Speaker 3: I play?

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Speaker 9: I play mostly knows, but it's like how does how this?

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Speaker 9: I playing those last year, So I want to say,

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Speaker 9: as the season progress, you know, child work on three

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Speaker 3: So Jordan appreciate, appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: That's so good the defensive tackles a group that has

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Speaker 1: a lot of talent. Well see how the Giants decided

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Speaker 1: to use him in Shane Bowen's new defensive system. I'm

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Speaker 2: We all see you next time. Everybody