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Speaker 1: DNA tests could destroy your family as you know it.

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Speaker 2: Here are five stories that get increasingly more crazy to

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Speaker 2: prove her point, Starting with number five.

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Speaker 1: DNA test revealed my dad is not my biological father.

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Speaker 1: My mom is still lying about her. Should I confront her? Yeah? Dah.

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Speaker 1: What do we think, Carrie Sam No, totally, no, totally

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Speaker 1: or yes.

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Speaker 3: Totally yes, yes, yes, I think even if it could

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Speaker 3: destroy the family, I think go for it, because are

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Speaker 3: you going to carry the weight of the knowledge that

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Speaker 3: your mom is lying?

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Speaker 1: That is the question. But there's only one way to

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Speaker 1: find out. O Highway go to be three nine and

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Speaker 1: eight says this is going to be a long one,

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Speaker 1: so buckle up. A little background. I am going to

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Speaker 1: be thirty in a couple of months. I have two

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Speaker 1: older sisters that are half siblings. We share the same mother.

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Speaker 1: She was married before getting together with my dad. I

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Speaker 1: also have a younger brother that I have thought of

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Speaker 1: as my full sibling. There are a number of reasons

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Speaker 1: I have wanted to get a DNA test, but never

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Speaker 1: had the guts to do so. Because you're opening Pandora's box. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: until recently Pandora's box opened. I never talked about this

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Speaker 1: with anyone other than my spouse. But two years ago

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Speaker 1: I went to my brother and asked if he would

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Speaker 1: do a DNA test with me, which would reveal if

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Speaker 1: we are indeed full or half siblings.

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Speaker 4: I wonder what made her come to the.

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Speaker 2: Conclusion, Yes, why are you suspicious? There's got there's got

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Speaker 2: to be something right. Yeah, there's some skeletons, which.

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Speaker 1: Is kind of interesting because they were told they were

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Speaker 1: half siblings and are like, maybe are we full? It's

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Speaker 1: usually the opposite, I know, were they told they were

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Speaker 1: half siblings. I believe you're right. I don't think I

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Speaker 1: want you my brother. Well, they did say I also,

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Speaker 1: I also have a younger brother that I thought was

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Speaker 1: my Oh maybe some foreshadowing in our mix, but I

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Speaker 1: see you in the comments, if you see what's about

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Speaker 1: to happen. I wanted the DNA test because I do

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Speaker 1: not have a father listed on my birth certificate, so

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Speaker 1: that us is why when my mom was pregnant with me,

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Speaker 1: she didn't tell anyone until she was about six months along.

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Speaker 1: She was not with anyone at the time, so family

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Speaker 1: members asked a lot of questions about who the father was,

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Speaker 1: and she never gave it up. Huh, No one was

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Speaker 1: there at the hospital when I was born. It's like

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Speaker 1: a mystery box. God. She has told stories of answered

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Speaker 1: questions I've had as a kid or an adult where

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Speaker 1: things didn't really add up, and my mom lies all

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Speaker 1: the time. I honestly wouldn't even believe her if she

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Speaker 1: told me the sky was blue? Damn stopping really quick,

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Speaker 1: pitstop right here, frama. Do we think that OPI is

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Speaker 1: going to find out that they're not full siblings?

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Speaker 2: I mean, by the fact that Opie said, I thought, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I was my brother, I'm thinking possibly not.

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Speaker 5: Moreover, why would she make a big post about it

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Speaker 5: if it wasn't true?

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Speaker 1: Exactly? We're on Reddit, of course.

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Speaker 2: Come on, I'm really going to be some tea and

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Speaker 2: we're gonna sip it delightfully.

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Speaker 1: Oh yes we are. Some late nineteen two months ago,

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Speaker 1: my brother and I finally went forth and did the

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Speaker 1: DNA test. As no surprise, sure enough, we are half siblings.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, that spicy one of these daddies ain't adding up.

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Speaker 1: This wasn't shocking to me, but obviously I had a

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Speaker 1: lot of questions. My mom at this point still had

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Speaker 1: no idea that we took the test. So I asked

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Speaker 1: my sisters, who were seven and ten at the time

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Speaker 1: that I was born, if they knew anything about her

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Speaker 1: pregnancy when I was born, when I was growing up,

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Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera. They gave me the information they could,

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Speaker 1: as well as another family member. At this point, I

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Speaker 1: called my dad and let him know that we took

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Speaker 1: a DNA test, and he told me he always knew

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Speaker 1: and that it would change nothing. What. Wow.

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Speaker 2: So the Dad's like, I know you're not my kid,

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Speaker 2: but I still think if you that's honestly great because

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Speaker 2: we've read stories where it's like, oh, you're not my

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Speaker 1: Bye, after like twenty plenty years.

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Speaker 2: I mean, at that point, come on, you gotta have

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Speaker 2: some kind of bond, right unless you want to do

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Speaker 2: the whole.

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Speaker 1: Time, unless you knew the whole time.

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Speaker 2: I also love how op he's kind of sherlocking their

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Speaker 2: way through this stories like I went to the as,

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Speaker 2: I went to the uncles, I got the DNA test,

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Speaker 2: like going deep.

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Speaker 1: Oh super Sherlock vibes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, forensic DNA, Oh god, investigation.

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Speaker 1: Let it be known, it also changes nothing for me.

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to know if my mom was really

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Speaker 1: lying to me all those years sounds like she was. Yeah, yep.

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Speaker 1: I started asking questions, piecing together information back to our

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Speaker 1: Sherlock vibes. Turns out, when my mom and dad got together,

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Speaker 1: she was twenty three and he was about twelve years old.

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Speaker 1: What y'all the math literally ain't math. And I'm thinking, well, well,

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Speaker 1: so here's here's the breakdown. Here's a breakdown. This dad

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Speaker 1: isn't his dad?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So the whole time, did Opie not know the

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Speaker 1: dad's age? I mean, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: You've seen in the news with like the teachers hooking

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it does happen. It happens. But I think what

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Speaker 1: op is saying here is like that, like, oh, it's

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Speaker 2: You never I thought you were Sarloco, But you never

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Speaker 2: questioned that your dad was twelve years old.

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Speaker 1: It's a pretty big clue.

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Speaker 5: Maybe maybe she had a maybe they had a hunch,

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Speaker 5: which is why they did yeah, why they.

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Speaker 1: Did the test. Yeah, it's it does seem that op

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Speaker 1: the whole time because he was probably like I didn't

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Speaker 1: give you a baby when I was twelve years old.

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Speaker 1: You know, some kids start shooting early. Shooter's gonna shoot

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Speaker 1: me shooting now, Okay, hold on, hold on, hold on,

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Speaker 1: more context into the story. They were not officially together,

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Speaker 1: but she definitely started the grooming process at that point. Wow.

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Speaker 1: He went on to get emancipated and started CouchSurfing, often

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Speaker 1: living at her house. When he he was seventeen, they

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Speaker 1: becoming an a legal world. That's illegal. That's illegal.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's bad.

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Speaker 2: Probably, yes, that is illegal. Yes, this woman is a peto.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. She had spent years grooming him and making him

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Speaker 4: Impressionable, literally a teenager.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you're groomed for years and like basically

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Speaker 1: you're gonna believe whatever she said whatever? Yeah, yeah, yaikes, dude,

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Speaker 1: he fully believed I was his child, so he moved in.

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Speaker 4: God has screwed up, guys.

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Speaker 1: This is sure fucked. He was never listed on my

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Speaker 2: Illegal because he was seventeen, because you would have been imprisoned.

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Speaker 4: Oh, this is nasty, gus.

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Speaker 1: Anyways, when I was three years old, they officially split

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Speaker 1: he was not the biological father. Worst time to find out.

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Speaker 1: I feel so bad all the whole time, literally, since

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Speaker 1: he was three and twenty years old. Why father when

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Speaker 4: Why did he stick around?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I like respect it, yeah, but it's like

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Speaker 1: at that point, it's like, Yo, you got roomed, bamboozled

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Speaker 2: Don't even have a relationship with the kid yet, So

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Speaker 2: I choose to stick to someone who is obviously so manipulative.

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Speaker 1: Good question. Knowing this, he went back to be with

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Speaker 1: about this. He's seen this kid from birth to three. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess at three you probably have a relationship. Also,

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Speaker 1: Maybe he might want to be with her still. Also

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Speaker 1: A year and a half later, they together had my

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Speaker 1: until twenty twelve, when they officially split for good. Wow

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Speaker 1: My dad also let me know during that time he

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Speaker 1: emancipated because he's literally a freaking child. Yeah. She would

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Speaker 1: Why what, God, he gave me a name of who

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Speaker 1: And since all of us has come out. I have

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Speaker 1: another name of who it could be. I believe it's

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Speaker 1: what's important here. Having all of this information under my belt,

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Speaker 1: I finally confronted my mom. I told her I did

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Speaker 1: the DNA test, why did the DNA test, and what

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Speaker 1: the results were. At first, she laughed and told me

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Speaker 1: sausag fuck? When I sent the legitimate results, she said

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Speaker 1: it was impossible. DNA tests were just wrong.

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Speaker 2: They're like, right, ninety nine percent of the time, Like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think it's a ninety nine point four percent or something, But.

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Speaker 1: Sam, this is the one percent. Yeah, this is this

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Speaker 1: is one six percent it happens. Imagine being part of

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Speaker 1: the point zero six percent? Like that would that would suck? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's like, babe, I swear I didn't do it. Babe,

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Speaker 1: I don't know either. It's point zero six percent, Buddy,

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Speaker 1: what do you think it is?

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Speaker 2: And that's people out of every thousand people are just

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Speaker 2: like you're one of the six that would be if

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Speaker 2: we found why get multiple DNA tests that is true.

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Speaker 2: That is true if we found those stories part of

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Speaker 2: the point.

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Speaker 1: DNA test done. Gone, Yeah, that's crazy exist, I'm sure.

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Speaker 1: So I needed to do the test again, what according

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Speaker 1: to my mom, oh, to see if he was part

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Speaker 1: of those six out of the thousand. She has spent

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Speaker 1: the last two months making me feel crazy telling me

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Speaker 1: the DNA test was incorrect. I did a paternity test

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Speaker 1: as well, which gave the same result to what she

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Speaker 1: No attacking into anything, lady. There have been so many

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Speaker 2: I mean just I can only imagine and my mom

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Speaker 1: And my mom didn't hook up with a twelve year old,

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Speaker 4: Jesus correct when you put it in that perspective like.

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Speaker 1: That, Okay, imagine what hope thinking. I'm hoping this is

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Speaker 1: DNA tests are going to be accurate. That is the

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Speaker 1: And that's all we have. That's it now, That is it?

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Speaker 2: Well, all right, I think the first thing we need

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Speaker 5: Nine point nine Wow? Point zero one percent nine?

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Speaker 1: Is that is? There? Is there more numbers after that?

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Speaker 1: It's like ninety nine point nine like like how many? Oh?

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Speaker 2: Great questions, like what what's how many stigfigs we're talking?

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Speaker 1: You know? How many?

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Speaker 6: Sometimes a lot of conditions can make mistakes when processing

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Speaker 2: Okay, so when it's done right, it's ninety nine point

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Speaker 2: like some inaccuracies from human error. Ninety nine point nine

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Speaker 2: I think I think that's how sig figs works.

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Speaker 1: I have no idea how that. I I like figs.

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Speaker 2: SIK fix figs. Significant figures? Oh way about back in

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Speaker 1: The only significant figures I know is growing mom bank account. Hey,

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Speaker 2: Only significant figure I know is Riley's hot bod. That

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Speaker 1: Dude, it's the most significant. How do you feel about

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Speaker 1: that this isn't helping me Riley to teach you math

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Speaker 1: right now because it's not gonna work. It's not gonna work.

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Speaker 6: Okay, why don't you get carry in on this?

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Speaker 1: So first quick question to you both and everyone watching?

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Speaker 6: Like, I'm cool with you guys, willing may be like

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Speaker 1: On the phone? Okay, yeah, Sam, Samn, sister is here

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Speaker 1: and we're all in here. That's going to be a part.

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Speaker 6: I used to women like giving me compliments. That's my fault.

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Speaker 4: Okay, you're all good.

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Speaker 1: The first question is for me, is the dad the

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Speaker 1: ahle for revealing the truth? No?

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Speaker 2: No, no, I mean he's able for not revealing the

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Speaker 2: too late.

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Speaker 1: Because the mom she's sounds like a narcissist all this stuff,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I like the dad should have told op at

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Speaker 2: eighteen at the very latest.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, eighteen feels eighteen feels good.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, at some point something was up though.

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Speaker 2: Right was suspicious there's questions from like, I think we've

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like it was literally this It was

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Speaker 1: like when do you tell your kids your father is

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Speaker 2: Something like that, Yeah, or when they're suspicious and then

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Speaker 2: you give them the truth. So yeah, I think Opie's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 2: Literally, yeah, so obviously the a hole by op not

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Speaker 2: the a hole for being the sure lock that op

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Speaker 1: Final question, where does op go from here?

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Speaker 4: That's a tough one.

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Speaker 2: Just go to the Ti Betan Monastery to figure out

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Speaker 4: That's one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, to understand if you're a jaguar or something.

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Speaker 2: Big mushroom trip, Joshua Tree Church a good possible paths. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think I think you need some mental healing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, go on a giant spirit question something for yourself,

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Speaker 1: maybe jose get a massage.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it sounds like like when the North Koreans figure out,

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Speaker 6: like what is actually happening in the world. It's not

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Speaker 6: just under the dictator. This was what this sounds like.

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Speaker 4: Treat yourself.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, speaking of Koreans, a massage and Eddy Petty that.

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Speaker 1: Everything? My God? Who needs rice when you got fleek nails?

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Speaker 1: Speaking of treating yourself, do we have another story? I

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Speaker 1: think we do. Let's go off, treat me into it.

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Speaker 2: I will treat you and feed you this story directly

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Speaker 2: into your mouth. I told my dad who his real

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Speaker 2: dad is?

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Speaker 1: Am I the a hole?

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Speaker 4: Oh that's something like inception shit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for real, your dad is my dad?

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Speaker 2: Yes, spin the top to see what's real in this

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Speaker 2: crazy world. So this comes from panel of judgments and

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Speaker 2: they say my grandmother got pregnant with my father around

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Speaker 2: age sixteen, rather early. My grandmother has always manipulated my

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Speaker 2: father and he is a mama's boy. She brought my

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Speaker 2: denied being the father. Rough, They're just like, this is

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Speaker 1: No, no God.

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Speaker 2: In twenty twenty one, I started to have more serious

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Speaker 2: and asked some closer DNA matches about my family's medical history.

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Speaker 2: The results I got did not match my biological grandfather's family.

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Speaker 1: We really do. Though.

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Speaker 2: My grandmother confessed he wasn't my biological grandfather and gave

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Speaker 2: me his dad's real name, saying she didn't know much

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Speaker 2: she knew. There was one family name that didn't match

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Speaker 2: so there is a different rand daddy somewhere out in

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Speaker 1: And that makes it worse because that's a whole extended

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Speaker 1: Yes, decades and generations.

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Speaker 2: I reached out to the closest cousin with that last name,

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 2: This autoimmune disease was also causing my blood sugar to

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Speaker 1: That's something we never even consider. Yeah, is there like

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Speaker 2: I also recently found out about muscle damage and heart

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Speaker 2: My cousin told me about on ancestries. Right, so finds

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Speaker 1: Right, which is a big sign, which is a big

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Speaker 1: sign that they're probably related. Right.

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Speaker 2: I had asked my grandmother a few different times if

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Speaker 1: Every single day.

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Speaker 2: What do you think they were getting up, Tom, You

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Speaker 1: The twist in shower. Yeah, jacky with it.

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Speaker 2: John said, I reached out to a possible first cousin

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Speaker 2: out to a first cousin and are like, hey, I'm

441
00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,280
Speaker 2: actually gonna tell I want to tell the source the grandfather.

442
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,640
Speaker 2: So reached out to a first cousin that possibly is related,

443
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 2: and then they immediately told the grandfather.

444
00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:23,120
Speaker 1: Right.

445
00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:28,160
Speaker 2: So, the potential biological grandfather called me that day and

446
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:34,000
Speaker 2: confirmed that he knew and was quote unquote with my grandmother,

447
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:37,160
Speaker 2: saying she told him she was pregnant but didn't say

448
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,560
Speaker 2: who the father was and then left town for good.

449
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:41,680
Speaker 5: Oh.

450
00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,160
Speaker 2: He said he never denied his kids, which is what

451
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,560
Speaker 2: all mutual friends and fam said. So, but he was like, hey,

452
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,040
Speaker 2: I was down to raise the kids, but she just

453
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:54,240
Speaker 2: skipped out. She wouldn't give him the chance. He wanted

454
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,679
Speaker 2: to speak with him and build a relationship with the

455
00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,639
Speaker 2: father he's father. I told my father telling him not

456
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 2: to take anything out on grandmother because we don't know

457
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:06,359
Speaker 2: her reasons. I figured out who his real father is

458
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 2: and what he said, and that he could call when

459
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,160
Speaker 2: sash if he was ready, Which is crazy to tell

460
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 2: your real dad to tell your dad who their real

461
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 2: dad is.

462
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, insanity.

463
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:21,359
Speaker 2: He talked to grandmother, who manipulated him into not wanting

464
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:26,200
Speaker 2: to talk to his biological dad. No, he said, she's right,

465
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:30,159
Speaker 2: I'm wrong, and also, just don't worry about the DNA proof.

466
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 2: She called, saying I went behind her back speaking to

467
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 2: my girlfriend and accused me of talking to her sister

468
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,840
Speaker 2: about him, as she was the only one who knew

469
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 2: about him. Knew about the biological grandfather, So she is

470
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:47,600
Speaker 2: basically confessing's I knew? Why did you tell him? How

471
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,639
Speaker 2: dare you tell his own family knew about them? But

472
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,639
Speaker 2: that's where I caught her lie about not knowing the

473
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,399
Speaker 2: name of the guy I researched, and it proved she

474
00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:00,879
Speaker 2: was intentionally hiding who my grandfather was despite me having

475
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,919
Speaker 2: serious health issues, because literally Op's life is kind of

476
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 2: on the line. Yeah, So am I the asshole for

477
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 2: telling my father who his biological father is?

478
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 4: No, I don't think so.

479
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 5: There is so much stuff on the line, Like Opie's

480
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 5: health issues, for one, can't really be dismissed one hundred.

481
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 5: That's not something you can just lie about. That's actually

482
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:24,199
Speaker 5: really fucked up.

483
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,440
Speaker 1: I don't know if we've come across that situation where

484
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 1: it's literally like, yo, I have a health issue that

485
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,200
Speaker 1: is directly tied to my ancestry in heritage.

486
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 2: And that's why a lot of people do like DNA tests,

487
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,399
Speaker 2: Like I actually have a DNA test sitting in my

488
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:38,160
Speaker 2: room right now.

489
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 1: I did see it. Yeah, I might.

490
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 2: Get an injection this weekend that makes you live thirty

491
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 2: percent longer, and so I have to do a DNA

492
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:47,439
Speaker 2: test before I get the injection in Austin.

493
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,119
Speaker 1: My how the turntables have turned? Yeah, I know, so

494
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 1: I might find some shit shit I'm not ready saying.

495
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 1: I might read his own Reddit story on this podcast.

496
00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:01,440
Speaker 1: Mom are you my mom? My dad? I've seen both

497
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 1: of his parents. It's a pretty safe bet that both

498
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,639
Speaker 1: of their children are and d Sofia looks exactly like me,

499
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 1: so underal clones. Have you seen Sophia?

500
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I've seen videos of her from it is.

501
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 1: It's a little scary to be honest. Yeah, yeah, famine

502
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 1: a wig. I've seen the comments. My gosh, damn, put

503
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 1: some respect on Sophia's name. Go on, not to dissube,

504
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 1: but not this guy. Why would you say, gosh, that's brutal. Yeah,

505
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,119
Speaker 1: that is really tough, pretty brutal.

506
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 2: But you know what, I want to be brutalized with

507
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 2: every day, all day. Twenty four seven, three sixty five.

508
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,360
Speaker 2: What this next story, Carrie, Let's do it?

509
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 5: Am I the asshole for using my partner's DNA to

510
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:51,640
Speaker 5: create a provocative artwork without their consent, leading to a

511
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 5: family scandal in strained relationships?

512
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 4: What do we have here, y'all?

513
00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:01,159
Speaker 2: DNA I'm imagining like a Jackson Pollock painting that only

514
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:06,360
Speaker 2: appears under black light and uses their significant others sperm

515
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,919
Speaker 2: to show up, and so it's just sprinkled on the

516
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 2: canvas and it's.

517
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 1: Like DNA art. Do you need to be a biologist

518
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 1: to decipher this message? Is it like a cruel secret

519
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 1: hidden message that only like freaking doctorate level like scientists.

520
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 1: I think it's just painting.

521
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 4: Jackson pology.

522
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 1: I mean truly, I mean that that could be what

523
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 1: this is yo, okay, which is a very fancy way

524
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 1: of saying that you have a and you named the okay,

525
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 1: it's a it's it's your way.

526
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 2: This is kind of fucked up, but it's your son

527
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 2: sperm and you name it Jackson, and it's a Jackson

528
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 2: Pollock because you're Jack and the son, or.

529
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 1: If your name is Jack and you're like son, I

530
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:50,479
Speaker 1: have a gift for you, your fallen brothers and sisters. Oh gosh,

531
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 1: these babies are yours. I would definitely burn that rest

532
00:26:56,760 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 1: in peace solve you would babies? How yeah? What? Yeh?

533
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 1: Damn if if from my daddy sack be like if

534
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 1: you didn't get burn it as to inhale it. No,

535
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 1: I definitely do not want to inhale. That definitely, No,

536
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: that is not the infusion oils that I'm looking to sniff.

537
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:20,880
Speaker 4: You want to get into the story real quick, let's

538
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 4: do it.

539
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 5: I am a professional artist and I've been with my

540
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 5: partner five years. We have an adventurous relationship and often

541
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 5: try new and unconventional things, both in and out of

542
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 5: the bedroom.

543
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 1: In and out. Okay, I feel like we're going to

544
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 1: get into some kinky ship really Yeah.

545
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, Well it's art. It's provocative art using uh fluid. Yeah,

546
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 5: that's what I'm pretty.

547
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 1: Sure it's a Jackson.

548
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think I think it's going to be

549
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 2: some bodily fluid.

550
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

551
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 5: So he's been always incredibly supportive of my career and

552
00:27:56,119 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 5: we frequently brainstorm artistic ideas together. That's a cute couple

553
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 5: goals like that. A few months ago, I came up

554
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:06,400
Speaker 5: with the idea to create an art installation that incorporated

555
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 5: actual DNA from both my partner and me.

556
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 2: Okay, how are you getting the DNA? What kind of

557
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 2: DNA we're talking about?

558
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,919
Speaker 5: So I thought it would be a unique way to

559
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 5: explore themes of love, intimacy, and the interconnectedness of human beings.

560
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 5: To make it more provocative. I decided to use intimate

561
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 5: fluids for the DNA samples without discussing it with my

562
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 5: partner beforehand.

563
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,919
Speaker 1: So what does she do? Did she like blow them?

564
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 2: And then she's like, wait, I just gotta go to

565
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 2: the bathroom really click and then just like put it

566
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:36,640
Speaker 2: in a test too.

567
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 4: We're like, they like used a condom, and then after

568
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 4: the condom that that screwed up.

569
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 1: I think that is the theory. I think that is

570
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: the one collecting it. That's so weird. It's like that

571
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 1: Turkey based kind of thing.

572
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 5: That's fine basically, So I assumed as the artist he

573
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 5: would be on board given our history of unconventional things together.

574
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 1: I want to know what about the other things.

575
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd be curious to know.

576
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 5: I spent weeks creating the installation, which included a large

577
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 5: abstract painting that used the fluids as part of the medium.

578
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 4: I'm telling you it's Jackson.

579
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 1: Pollock how much fluid.

580
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 5: I was extremely proud of the final result and submitted

581
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 5: it to an art gallery where it was accepted for

582
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 5: an upcoming exhibition. WHOA, that's a big fucking deals big.

583
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 5: I mean it must have been great. I mean the

584
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 5: art artwork must have been great, but yeah, right, yeah,

585
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 5: So to celebrate, we decided to host a small party

586
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,959
Speaker 5: for our close friends and family, where I would unveil

587
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 5: the artwork before the public exhibition.

588
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 1: Yeah like you're oh, like, honey, how did you make

589
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 1: this piece of art?

590
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 2: Well, first, I milked my assott, Oh it's so white

591
00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 2: on the canvas.

592
00:29:58,800 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 6: Why does this spell like bleak?

593
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 4: So here's where the problem began.

594
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 5: At the party, I revealed the artwork and explained the

595
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 5: concept behind it, including the use of our intimate fluids

596
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 5: as part of the medium. That's real bold telling your family,

597
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 5: I use my partners.

598
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 1: I'm say he's hearing this for the first time in

599
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 1: front of all of his friends and family.

600
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, my partner, who was hearing this information for the

601
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 5: first time, were shocked and visibly upset. Of course, our

602
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 5: family and friends were also stunned, and the reactions were

603
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 5: a mix of shock, disgust, and fascination. The party atmosphere

604
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 5: quickly turned uncomfortable, and some guests left early.

605
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 2: This couldn't handle the beautifulness of the art. It's avant garde.

606
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 2: Art is meant to cause reactions, honestly, honestly, like like

607
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 2: real talk. If they had such a strong reaction, then

608
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 2: the artist is probably doing something right.

609
00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 4: That is true. But also, isn't there an ethical opponent

610
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 4: of making art in a way that doesn't harm.

611
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 1: It's fucked up. Yeah, it's still fucked up. The art

612
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 1: if op had just told the partner and the partner

613
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 1: was okay with it, Yeah, I don't know why she

614
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 1: didn't say anything. Why why not? I guess we're about

615
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 1: to find out.

616
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 5: But yes, exactly the next day, my partner's conservative parents

617
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 5: found out about.

618
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 2: The artwork The world Rightley, Riley, really quick, I'll ask

619
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 2: the question after its after the Christian Afterwards.

620
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 5: They demanded we remove the Peace from the exhibition and

621
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 5: destroy it, claiming that it was a disgrace to the family.

622
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 5: I refuse, standing by my artistic vision and my right

623
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 5: to express myself as I see fit. My partner, however,

624
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 5: feels betrayed by my action and wishes I consulted him

625
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 5: before creating the installation.

626
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 2: Exactly, No fucking shit, no ship common courtesy to ask

627
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 2: your boyfriend if you could use his semen. This is

628
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 2: so the patent say is relationship one oh one? Yeah,

629
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 2: it's just baffling.

630
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 4: Why she never asked that is asshole behavior.

631
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: Guys, Yeah, for sure.

632
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 5: So since then our relationship with the partner's family has

633
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 5: become extremely strained. They've made it clear that they disapprove

634
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 5: of our choices and feel humiliated by our artwork or

635
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 5: by the artwork. Additionally, some of our friends have distanced

636
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 5: themselves from us, uncomfortable with the idea behind the installation.

637
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 5: My partner and I are being accused of taking our

638
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 5: art too far and for involving our families in something

639
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 5: they consider obscene and inappropriate.

640
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 4: So, folks and.

641
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 5: Friends and families and everyone else, am I the asshole

642
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 5: for using my partners and my DNA to create a

643
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 5: provocative artwork without their consent, leading to a family scandal

644
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,959
Speaker 5: and strange relationships? Or am I justified in expressing our

645
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:54,479
Speaker 5: love and creativity in any way I choose, even if

646
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 5: it means pushing boundaries.

647
00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 2: I think it's an easy asshole on this wye sor asshole.

648
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 1: I'm just kind of like, here's my question. If OP

649
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 1: had asked the partner is this okay? And then the

650
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 1: partner was like yeah, and then I think I feel

651
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 1: like they could have been okay, or at least having

652
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 1: a sit down conversation to for op to be able

653
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 1: to express here's why I want to do this, Here's

654
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 1: what it means to me, here's you know, the important

655
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: of our art to me. I think the partner could

656
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 1: have come out of that being like, yeah, that's okay,

657
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 1: and probably he just didn't want to like show it

658
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: in front of all of his friends and family, you know,

659
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 1: and tell them the word es.

660
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 2: Actually, if they're conservative like Riley Riley, if you were

661
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 2: dating an every girl, here we go and you're like, hey, parents,

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Speaker 2: like my girlfriends having this big show, excited for you

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Speaker 2: to see it, and then your girlfriend made an announcement

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Speaker 2: that it was used using little pieces.

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Speaker 1: Of you, what would their reaction be?

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Speaker 6: I mean, I think my grandparents would be very upset.

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Speaker 6: They'd be like wtf. Yeah, my parents would be a

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Speaker 6: little disappointed. My dad would freak out. He'd be like,

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Speaker 6: this is like crazy, why are you doing this? Like

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Speaker 6: your comes on this painting?

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Speaker 4: I mean like that, yeah put it like that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: So like I would be like do I know about

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Speaker 6: this walking in or am I just so you know?

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Speaker 1: You know, you know that when.

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Speaker 6: I would be like like this, where did you get this?

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Speaker 6: And we keep this in the house. It doesn't go

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Speaker 6: outside of here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, at a minimum not Like It's one thing to

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Speaker 1: like put it in an art gallery where it's like

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Speaker 1: your like parents and stuff probably aren't going through. It's

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Speaker 1: another thing to put it in their faces and be like,

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Speaker 1: this is my husband's seed. Yeah, and the seeds of

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Speaker 1: the fruitful tree.

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Speaker 6: And depending on like I like money she's getting off

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Speaker 6: of it, I want a piece. I mean, if it's

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Speaker 6: like in an exposition, like I don't know what that.

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Speaker 1: Looks like, I'm like almost like almost like that's kind

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Speaker 1: of dope if he's on board. Yeah, yeah right, I

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Speaker 1: think it so, so I think it totally.

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Speaker 2: It's the asshole behaviors to really change if she just

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Speaker 2: says something yes, like hey, we're gonna do this, and

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Speaker 2: then I think the other thing that's the asshole is

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Speaker 2: showcasing it to like a conservative audience that like like

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Speaker 2: his family. Yeah yeah, Like I think that's maybe a

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Speaker 2: little assholey to to do that. But the the the

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Speaker 2: cream of the crop asshole behavior is stealing his seed

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Speaker 2: and not telling him.

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Speaker 4: I don't think they read the room very well.

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Speaker 1: No, No, they did not. No, you know, some people

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Speaker 1: just don't understand great art apparently.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, some people say great art's got to be controversial,

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Speaker 4: whether you.

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Speaker 6: Like it or not.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would love to know from you guys like,

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Speaker 2: do you think this is asshole behavior? Put your answers

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Speaker 2: in the commons, bulow and do you want to see

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Speaker 2: a Riley inspired painting? But your big protein's got some

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Speaker 2: big protein to throw on that.

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